January 29, 2026 • 24 mins
Fun Lovin’ Criminals are heading back to New Zealand for shows in Christchurch, Auckland and Wellington this March, and they’re amped to be making the long trip back. They called up for a chat about the realities of touring the world, how their signature genre-mashing sound came from growing up in New York club culture, and why the new album A Matter of Time still sounds unmistakably like them - Fun Lovin' Criminals.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome record So Radio Hodoche's off the Record podcast the
Record with Big Sandy's.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And now let's chat with Fun Love and Criminals. You
guys have toured all over the world, but what is
it like trying to get all the way down here
to New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're just happy to get just to be able to
come back there. You know, it's it's not close, so
it's rare that bands can get down under, you know,
at least bands like ours and South America is really
the only other one on the bucket list that we
haven't been to.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So cool, are you doing that in the tour?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Not yet, but you know, we basically hit up Europe
because that's what's where the bands like does the best.
And then you know, always try and get New Zealand
Australia down, you know, in your winter, in your summer, sorry,
and then try and get up the States in the spring,
go to the US because that's another it's just hard
to tour there. You've got six hour drives and you know,
(00:57):
it's it's it's hard to promote there because it's a
big place. And then hopefully maybe you know, we're hitting
North America, we might as well go to South America. Yeah, yeah, well,
I mean if we can go to Central America, that'd
be great. Always wanted to go to Panama. I'm not
sure how successful the band is in Central America. I
know we've got fans in South America, and if we
did a little club tour maybe, God on some festivals,
(01:20):
there'd be some happy people there who've been trying for
like two decades to get us there.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It's just not easy.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
One of our dreams was to support, was to try
because we knew Mick Jones from the Clash and we
knew Joe Strummer from the Clash and they were just
both really awesome dudes to get to know before Joe
passed away. But our dream as FLC was to try
and get them to reform, just for a tour pretty
much everything they stand against, you know, just going for
(01:47):
the capitalism and all that stuff, but to make money.
But if they did, it'd be a sick tour. Have
full of them criminals, open full of them criminals, open
them for the Clash. That'd be a sick tour. It's
not gonna happen, but you.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Know, yeah, we had, we had.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
The early days were on another level.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I mean, nowadays, it's totally different and you know, regardless
of lineup changes in the band, just the fact that
bands can still tour around the world. It's hard to
do and it's financially hard to do. But at the
same time, if you you know, we've done it so long,
we know the business enough. We know how to book
flights and hotels and do all that nonsense that you
(02:25):
got to do. That isn't the fun part. You know,
the show's obviously the best part. But to do all that,
you know, it's just a blessing.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Really.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, now you are coming to New Zealand in.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
March sixth, seventh eighth. Yeah, christ Church, Auckland and Wellington,
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Before twenty You did come here in twenty twenty four
to Auckland, was there, right, I.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Think twenty I thought it was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It might have been twenty five. I think, yeah, right,
maybe twenty four. You're probably right. It's been you know,
the years, we've been doing a lot of touring, but yeah,
we hadn't been there. The last time we were there
was the early two thousand or no, it was nineteen
ninety nine. The last time in Auckland, you know, and
then we went to Australia a couple of times in
the early two thousands, but yeah, we haven't been back.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So it was an amazing time right now.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We had such a great time, and then we went
off into Australia, which.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Is a totally different world, but you had to start
off in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
It was great.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We were swimming in the sea with the promoter Kurt
and he was taking us around.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And we really really enjoyed it. So that's why we're
really looking forward to coming back there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, you've just released an album in September a matter
of time, so can the Kiwi fans expeact some of
the new music mixed in with some of the good,
true hard hitters from Oh Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We always love to switch up our set lists and
so they know they're going to hear the classics that
they come to check out, but also, you know, playing
it around half the album and switching up songs.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
So for those few.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Fans that are that crazy to go to all three shows,
they'll probably hear the whole album by the time we're
done with that little mini But you.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Know, it's great to get out there right now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know what you think and we've just been torn
for three months, so it's it's been a long run
and we've been having a great time.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah, I loved it in New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (04:11):
I mean my first time I've ever been for me,
and there's so much more I want to see. You know,
we just got to play in Auckland and Wellington less time,
but this time we're going to get to see christ
Church as well.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yes, that's what she's out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's where I am right now. It's a beautiful sunny day.
It's raining around the rest of the country, so we've
got it pretty lucky here.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
We're quite charmed here in christ Church.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yes, the South Island.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The South Island are you going to so you've only
are you going to do a little bit of touring
of the South Island before you perform in christ Church?
Or you just kind of like you're on a pretty
tight schedule.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Were there a day or two before just to kind
of get acclimated from the flights and stuff. And you know,
we always take advantage of going to places and going
to see things, not necessarily the sights, but at least
having a walk around and see what's happening, and then Yeah,
most of the places will have a day.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
To just kind of hang out, which is great. That's
what's good.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Come down there for a few weeks and get to
relax and do play some music for people. Sort it's
all about.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yeah, really looking forward to that. We had great shows
when we were last there, especially and well into and
that went off. So yeah, really looking forward to getting back.
It's such beautiful place in the world, do you know
what I mean? So it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And what I love about your music especially is it's
a real kaleidoscope of genres. I'm thinking back to when
I first heard fun Love and Criminals in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You got to think New Zealand is.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
A very isolated little island and back then when we
didn't have the internet, we only really had radio, and
so we kind of had to experience the world through
the music that we listened to. And what I loved
about the mix of genres we hadn't really I mean,
Beastie Boys sort of had that kind of click, like
they were bringing a fusion of sort of rap and
rock together, and then when you guys came out, it
(05:56):
was like, yeah, you've expanded on that even more. I
was going to ask what were those influences on you
in your early days of music fast because it was
such a different eclectic mix compared to what we were
listening to.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think, you know, I think what you said before
about only having you know music really is probably why
the people in New Zealand are such awesome people. You know,
you haven't been tarnished by all the horrors of the world.
Not necessarily, but back in the early days, we were
working in nightclubs, and these nightclubs would play all different music.
So that's different than you know, when you're listening to
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music you bought in the store. This is stuff you're
going you're here and what other DJs are fined And
so we're exposed to so many different genres there. And
New York City is such a multicultural city, you know,
like London, you know, like maybe like christ Church, I
don't know, But so when we were doing our music,
we didn't really think, let's mix all these styles. We
basically had a stack of CDs and some cassette tapes
(06:55):
to sample from, and that was obviously our love of
bands like the Beastie Boys and all the East Coast hip.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Hop stuff coming out.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But also growing up loving rock music and loving blues
music and loving electronic music, so you know, yeah, there
wasn't really like any formula per se. We just kind
of did it and then realized, oh, well, yeah, we're
taking Phil Collins in the same song as we're taking
something from Van Halen or something, you know. So that's
just that's what's now is the FOC formula and we
(07:24):
haven't really straight from it in thirty years. And the
fans who have heard the new album, that's one of
the things they're all saying is it's like it's it's
still there. It's like, despite lineup changes over the years,
it's fun Loving Criminals in this record. You could tell
when you listen to it that it's like we're back
to doing what we do best, albeit with different members
(07:45):
in the band. But it's like it's taken thirty years
to get the right lineup for front Loving Criminals, and
that's what we got now.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, because it really does feel right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I was listening to nineteen seventy two on the just
you know, headed on my phone and then I saw
the video clip with it, and I was like, man,
this I don't know. For me, music is always a
journey and it's always a time machine to somewhere in
nineteen seventy two really captures that. How did you guys
feel making that track? Like putting that together?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
It's quite a unique a unique one for as far
as writing that one, because it's something that I had
never done before, and that was it Faster music. And
I was like, Okay, well, we need to be able
to relate with this, and I thought a great way
(08:37):
of relating is to is to write some lyrics on
the year that Me and Fast were born. So we
were both born in nineteen seventy two, and it was like,
let's go down the.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Rabbit hole of everything that was relevant.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
And I just read through the monstrous list of cracks
of nineteen seventy two and just it all down in
a story in the lyrics and it's I've never done
that before and it just come about. I Mean, it
amazed me how many cool things did kick off in
the year me and Faster born. You know, from the
(09:14):
beginning it being the China, the Chinese New Year, the
Sign of the Rat, all the way through to the
year that they pulled the troops out of Vietnam and
there's so many monumentous things. It was like quite a
joy to try and fit it into a melody line
to go along with the music. Fast sent up. So
it's cool that you that you dig that one. It
(09:35):
goes down pretty cool as well, like it's.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Great, definitely played and I heard it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was like when the music was being done, I
was thinking, Okay, this is like our kind of classic
rock jam with maybe a bit of like modern Sheryl
Crow thrown and I'll even throw that out.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
But it had that kind of classic rock.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Feel, so it fit the lyrics perfectly, and I got
I added a few American things that happened in the
seventies that maybe over easy to know. So it's kind
of like a global song that celebrates the year in
nineteen seventy two, in the seventies in general, with all
the exciting music and fashion and art and all that stuff.
So yeah, good jets.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Kind of it's an educational song, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You know?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Does it hear those words and you go down the
rabbit hole? Who are these people? What those things that happened?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
When we play it, like people's faces almost they wish
they were born in nineteen seventy two as.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, you know, No, nineteen seventy two was a great change.
I really liked the lyric I saw for the first
time in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
Yeah, right, yeah, obviously about being the first you know,
when you're born, the first thing you do is open
your eyes, if you're lucky enough, and.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
That's where that particular lyric come from.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
It was the first day that me and Fast would
have seen the world, you know, so it's quite deep atchally, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So do you usually write the lyrics first and then
do the music or is it more of a music first.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, it's more I'll mess around with loads of beats
stuff in my studio and set stuff up to Frank.
So once we kind of have an idea, you know,
all right, here's where your verses cond be, your courses,
then Frank will start writing some lyrics, you know, I'll
write some lyrics. We'll mix lyrics together, and you know,
let's say a good example of that is the last
track on the album Lovers.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Rock is this great chorus with these kind of rhymes.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Because this band always sort of you know, again, mixing
all the genres took a bit of hip hop approach
to how you do lyrics, but then in courses, you know,
let's juice it up. Let's get good melodic lines for
the choruses. Let's put some harmonies in there, so you know,
it's it's again. Just doing this album is has been
a real We're just very grateful because it will really
(11:42):
work great and it came along pretty quick. It takes
a while to make a record, but the fact that
we'll be coming down to New Zealand, we're psyphered the
people that came last time and they come out again.
We're gonna play lots of new music, so that's cool.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, everyone's looking forward to it. There's a good buzz
about it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And Naim you've just recently, well not recently, but the
US addition to the band.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
How is it for you? Because I know that Frank A.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Fast You've played together for like twenty two decades or
so before, so yeah, coming into the mix, how was
it for you?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I love it, man, I love it.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
I first met the band in two thousand and three
and I was a roadie forum for a little while
and then did some recording with Fast and Frank in
two thousand and nine, and that became a reggae album
called Radio Riddler. So I've been in many bands with
Frank as well, and we've performed all around the world
(12:35):
with Uncle Frank.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So for me, it felt like a natural step. You know.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
The only issue I had was where could I, you know,
take the place of you know, such a big personality
that was, you know, that was Hueye. But the boys
assured me it would be all right, and.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I've just had a great time. It's been.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
It's been brilliant and fact we got to called new
material as well, you know, two EPs and an album. Now,
I think was the thing that I sing on the cake,
because I wouldn't really have wanted to join if we're
just going to play old songs. So although I love
playing the old songs, it's nice to be part of
something new as well.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
I just got I just got given a compliment that
I need to pass on to Naims, so now seems
a good time to do it.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
And not to name drop.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
I just went to somebody who's very famous in Manchester's
funeral and it was just water Wall legends that I've
just been with all day, and I just name him
come away from John squire who said to say that
you're a great player.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
How cool is that?
Speaker 8 (13:46):
No way, man, he doesn't know me.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
He actually was given the new album by Nico about
a month ago and he said it's great.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, he's got like YouTube video fans that just try
and copy his style. You know, he's a to hear
that from someone like that.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
It's amazing. Man, I don't.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
Believe he's super sweet as well. No, it's hand on heartbroke,
is you know it was? I thought, wow, So wait
till I say I said, he thinks you're absolutely awesome.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
That's what I told.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Name is absolutely awesome. Of course he is.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And he's you know, he can't join this band. He
had a very difficult role. You know, he had to
learn like fifty songs. He only had like a a
few rehearsals to get it together. So he's having the
time of his life. You know, he's on stage doing
and he's eating, sleeping.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Swimming, Like I mean, I just wish I would joined
thirty years ago. You know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
What it sounds like, you live in the dream. How's
it being for you? Fast?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Going from like just chilling at the bank, you know,
just being part of the band and now being the
front person of.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Nothing's different for me except now I, you know, do
do the majority of the vocals.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
You know, someone had to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I got the closest to a New York accent, which
is similar. When the band started, it was like we
were just write music, no thought of who's going to
be a singer or anything, and it just here we
had the best voice.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
So now I have it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Not necessarily the best voice, but my voice suits the
songs the most, and Frank is there to do his
harmonies and stuff. Nin gets in there does some harmonies,
so it's like rare. For the first time in the
band's history, we got three people that can sing on songs,
which is good.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
But yeah, it's just something else to do.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You know. I'm pretty busy on stage, but it's not
a big deal. So the sooner I can just memorize
all the songs because it's still hard.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
There's so many songs. And I like to have a
drink on stage.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I like to maybe have a little blaze and get
into the party and sometimes you know, things get screwy.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
We have a good time all the time. That's what's important.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
I mean, we've got into such a great groove on
the last tour that I weren't even thinking about how
to play the songs anymore.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
It's just it was muscle, we know. At that point.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
A little more it became more about the banter and
we have some skits on stage, you know, where you know,
some dramatical moment. Maybe we could do that in this
and I don't know what the boys want to do, but.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, it's we got so tight by the end of it,
it's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You're just having fun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's the fun part, right is getting on stage and
having the crowd in front. Like I guess this like
when you're creating the album, it's more like laying it down.
It's a different vibe in the studio to taking it
out to the messes. So that must for me, I
would imagine that would be the coolest part of it,
all right.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
I mean you have to steady yourself though a lot
of the time I do anyway. But it's it's fun
playing the shows. But that's that's the best it gets,
is when you're in front of the audience.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
The traveling and the energy.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
That you need to put the show on each day,
that you have to kind of look after yourself a bit.
And if that means, you know, kind of knowing when
to stop and having an early night and stuff like that,
I kind of take that bit quite serious as I
get older. When I was younger, I didn't give a shit,
but now it's like, I want to be able to
play well each night, and to do that you have
(17:23):
to sacrifice a few things.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
So's it slightly.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Changed as the years have gone on, But as long
as the shows still kick ass as they do, that's
really the important bit for me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, the age thing is just the kind of natural thing.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
In our twenties, we weren't thinking. We were just so
lucky to be on stages outside of New York, outside
of the one night club, the Limelight we worked at.
So here we are thirty years later, and like my
man said, it's like we can't be cane in it,
but we do every.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Now and then.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But that's the important thing is, you know, just to
realize you've got four shows in a row, which in
your twenty didn't matter, but now it's like, all right,
we're gonna be feeling by the end of show too,
but we're not really. But it's important to keep it
together because especially coming all the way down Under. It's
like to come down there and just be hung over
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and act like a jerk off on stage is not
really what they the people pay the harder and money for,
and we've had enough of that in the band's history.
So again for now, it's like, we know what we
got to do, and there's always a professional aspect there
at the same time as you know, not taking ourselves
too seriously and having a good time and trying to
hang out with these people we ain't seen in years
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or just meeting for the first time.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, well this is saying we don't bounce like we
used to the older that we get. I've skateboarded for
a long time and I got back on my skateboard
the other day and I was like, I'm gonna die.
This is not this isn't my twenties anymore. Hey, before
we wrap it up, I was just going to ask
each of you what are you listening to at the moment,
Like what is what's on your playlist of music? And
and what's your favorite movie? They're the two things came
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to find out.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
I can't stop I can't stop listening to this girl
who's just sexy and hot, and she can rap, she
can sing, and she's got style and she's she's called
Naga nogat Ezra, which is spelled n Ogi Ezra. If
you've not heard of her, you need to start playing it.
And she's absolutely awesome. So that's who I've been listening
(19:21):
to a lot of. And the best film, the best film.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
That I've seen. I don't know. I've not been watching
many films.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
What I have been watching is this thing called Mister
Mercedes with Brian Gleeson in It's a it's a Netflix
kind of one of these serious things that is well
worth a watch. It's taken from Stephen King novel. Stephen
King produces it. But Brendan Gleeson is such a fabulous actor,
you know, the Irish guy, the big guy.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
He's Yeah, you got to check that out.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Films I've not really Oh no, yeah, I watched this
film called Court Steve with the guy who played you know,
the guy played Ovis Presley Austin.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Austin Butler, the Darren Aaron Osky film.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Great film.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
I love that was fantastic. Yeah, I really liked that.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Zoey Kravitz again incredibly hard and not as well Dan.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well for me, very talented her and that Noga Ezra
as well, even though Frank Starts was saying super hot.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
But it's for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
The album would be probably Chronics' new album Exile, which
is a bit of a change for him.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
It's it's going super.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Roots reggae and it's it's a surprising album and I'm
really enjoying it. Movies I have three. I saw Weapons
and I liked that one. And I saw a bunch
of movies this year and didn't like many of them.
But Weapons I thought was good. One battle after another
I thought was really good. And the more I watch
it, it gets funny and funnier. It's probably Leo being the
(20:50):
funniest he's ever been. You know, he's a great comedian
like he was for Wall Street. But the top one
for me was Kill Bill the whole Bloody Affair, which
was tan you know, editing Kill Bill one and two
together like you originally plan and it's uncut and it
was like four hours forty five minutes long. And I
sat through that like two weeks ago while we were
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on tour and it was just awesome in a cinema.
So that's me.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What about you?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now can you see me? I think I've just lost you. Guys.
We can hear you.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You can't see it, but we can hear you.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Oh yeah, I should be back. Yeah, I've been listening
to just my playlist. I've added a lot of like
female singers have gone back Loving Randy Crawford, Dione Warwick,
Cleo Soul.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
It's one I really like at the minute. Just some
real seventies stuff, Bob James and.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
A movie wise. Uh, well, I've been watching series. I've
been watching Fallout. Oh yeah, you know, it's the It's
really good. It's just the second season. It's just started,
so I'm into that.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
In a minute, you have to you have to take
whatever name says in film really good with a pinch
of salt, because he told you fast about this film,
like for so long he was hyping this film.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Got a thing.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Got to give us his name of the film.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
It's called a Little Missy and it's the wrong that's
the wrong missy, and it's the worst great comedy, terrible.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Watch it the wrong miss Waste time with that, waste
your time on that commute name you commute, Na, So listen,
the big question you need to ask Frank is what
is he going to be listening to on Christmas Day?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
What are you going to be listening to on Christmas Day? Frank?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yes, Frank, what are.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You going to be listening to on Christmas Day?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
But I've got a playlist of all the Christmas classics,
But sang by this amazing Punjabi Indian guy and he
just makes him sound like super funny. So I'm going
to put that on instead of the old classics. I'm
going to go with this Indian artist that is just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We love we love Fat Freddy's obviously, we love the
Black Seeds, those guys we've been fans of for years
and our reggae group Radio Grida actually has done some
support slots opening for Black Seeds when they come through London.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
So we love Ariga. We love our reggae in New Zealand.
We've always been big so do.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We're we're big reggae fans that you every drive we do,
we're driving from town to town, like Frank was saying earlier,
where that's not the fun part of the job. You're
driving three four hours, where you're flying a couple hours.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
We're always listening to reggae playlists.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
That's so cool. Well, thank you so much for your talking.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
About Yeah there, absolutely I will see you there in March,
have a fantastic Christmas, New Year, and we'll see you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Take cayo, bless you, blessed so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
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Record with Big Sandy's.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And now let's chat with Fun Love and Criminals. You
guys have toured all over the world, but what is
it like trying to get all the way down here
to New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're just happy to get just to be able to
come back there. You know, it's it's not close, so
it's rare that bands can get down under, you know,
at least bands like ours and South America is really
the only other one on the bucket list that we
haven't been to.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So cool, are you doing that in the tour?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Not yet, but you know, we basically hit up Europe
because that's what's where the bands like does the best.
And then you know, always try and get New Zealand
Australia down, you know, in your winter, in your summer, sorry,
and then try and get up the States in the spring,
go to the US because that's another it's just hard
to tour there. You've got six hour drives and you know,
(00:57):
it's it's it's hard to promote there because it's a
big place. And then hopefully maybe you know, we're hitting
North America, we might as well go to South America. Yeah, yeah, well,
I mean if we can go to Central America, that'd
be great. Always wanted to go to Panama. I'm not
sure how successful the band is in Central America. I
know we've got fans in South America, and if we
did a little club tour maybe, God on some festivals,
(01:20):
there'd be some happy people there who've been trying for
like two decades to get us there.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It's just not easy.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
One of our dreams was to support, was to try
because we knew Mick Jones from the Clash and we
knew Joe Strummer from the Clash and they were just
both really awesome dudes to get to know before Joe
passed away. But our dream as FLC was to try
and get them to reform, just for a tour pretty
much everything they stand against, you know, just going for
(01:47):
the capitalism and all that stuff, but to make money.
But if they did, it'd be a sick tour. Have
full of them criminals, open full of them criminals, open
them for the Clash. That'd be a sick tour. It's
not gonna happen, but you.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Know, yeah, we had, we had.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
The early days were on another level.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I mean, nowadays, it's totally different and you know, regardless
of lineup changes in the band, just the fact that
bands can still tour around the world. It's hard to
do and it's financially hard to do. But at the
same time, if you you know, we've done it so long,
we know the business enough. We know how to book
flights and hotels and do all that nonsense that you
(02:25):
got to do. That isn't the fun part. You know,
the show's obviously the best part. But to do all that,
you know, it's just a blessing.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Really.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, now you are coming to New Zealand in.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
March sixth, seventh eighth. Yeah, christ Church, Auckland and Wellington,
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Before twenty You did come here in twenty twenty four
to Auckland, was there, right, I.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Think twenty I thought it was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It might have been twenty five. I think, yeah, right,
maybe twenty four. You're probably right. It's been you know,
the years, we've been doing a lot of touring, but yeah,
we hadn't been there. The last time we were there
was the early two thousand or no, it was nineteen
ninety nine. The last time in Auckland, you know, and
then we went to Australia a couple of times in
the early two thousands, but yeah, we haven't been back.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So it was an amazing time right now.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We had such a great time, and then we went
off into Australia, which.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Is a totally different world, but you had to start
off in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
It was great.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We were swimming in the sea with the promoter Kurt
and he was taking us around.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And we really really enjoyed it. So that's why we're
really looking forward to coming back there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, you've just released an album in September a matter
of time, so can the Kiwi fans expeact some of
the new music mixed in with some of the good,
true hard hitters from Oh Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We always love to switch up our set lists and
so they know they're going to hear the classics that
they come to check out, but also, you know, playing
it around half the album and switching up songs.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
So for those few.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Fans that are that crazy to go to all three shows,
they'll probably hear the whole album by the time we're
done with that little mini But you.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Know, it's great to get out there right now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know what you think and we've just been torn
for three months, so it's it's been a long run
and we've been having a great time.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah, I loved it in New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (04:11):
I mean my first time I've ever been for me,
and there's so much more I want to see. You know,
we just got to play in Auckland and Wellington less time,
but this time we're going to get to see christ
Church as well.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yes, that's what she's out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's where I am right now. It's a beautiful sunny day.
It's raining around the rest of the country, so we've
got it pretty lucky here.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
We're quite charmed here in christ Church.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yes, the South Island.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The South Island are you going to so you've only
are you going to do a little bit of touring
of the South Island before you perform in christ Church?
Or you just kind of like you're on a pretty
tight schedule.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Were there a day or two before just to kind
of get acclimated from the flights and stuff. And you know,
we always take advantage of going to places and going
to see things, not necessarily the sights, but at least
having a walk around and see what's happening, and then Yeah,
most of the places will have a day.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
To just kind of hang out, which is great. That's
what's good.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Come down there for a few weeks and get to
relax and do play some music for people. Sort it's
all about.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yeah, really looking forward to that. We had great shows
when we were last there, especially and well into and
that went off. So yeah, really looking forward to getting back.
It's such beautiful place in the world, do you know
what I mean? So it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And what I love about your music especially is it's
a real kaleidoscope of genres. I'm thinking back to when
I first heard fun Love and Criminals in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You got to think New Zealand is.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
A very isolated little island and back then when we
didn't have the internet, we only really had radio, and
so we kind of had to experience the world through
the music that we listened to. And what I loved
about the mix of genres we hadn't really I mean,
Beastie Boys sort of had that kind of click, like
they were bringing a fusion of sort of rap and
rock together, and then when you guys came out, it
(05:56):
was like, yeah, you've expanded on that even more. I
was going to ask what were those influences on you
in your early days of music fast because it was
such a different eclectic mix compared to what we were
listening to.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think, you know, I think what you said before
about only having you know music really is probably why
the people in New Zealand are such awesome people. You know,
you haven't been tarnished by all the horrors of the world.
Not necessarily, but back in the early days, we were
working in nightclubs, and these nightclubs would play all different music.
So that's different than you know, when you're listening to
(06:33):
music you bought in the store. This is stuff you're
going you're here and what other DJs are fined And
so we're exposed to so many different genres there. And
New York City is such a multicultural city, you know,
like London, you know, like maybe like christ Church, I
don't know, But so when we were doing our music,
we didn't really think, let's mix all these styles. We
basically had a stack of CDs and some cassette tapes
(06:55):
to sample from, and that was obviously our love of
bands like the Beastie Boys and all the East Coast hip.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Hop stuff coming out.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But also growing up loving rock music and loving blues
music and loving electronic music, so you know, yeah, there
wasn't really like any formula per se. We just kind
of did it and then realized, oh, well, yeah, we're
taking Phil Collins in the same song as we're taking
something from Van Halen or something, you know. So that's
just that's what's now is the FOC formula and we
(07:24):
haven't really straight from it in thirty years. And the
fans who have heard the new album, that's one of
the things they're all saying is it's like it's it's
still there. It's like, despite lineup changes over the years,
it's fun Loving Criminals in this record. You could tell
when you listen to it that it's like we're back
to doing what we do best, albeit with different members
(07:45):
in the band. But it's like it's taken thirty years
to get the right lineup for front Loving Criminals, and
that's what we got now.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, because it really does feel right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I was listening to nineteen seventy two on the just
you know, headed on my phone and then I saw
the video clip with it, and I was like, man,
this I don't know. For me, music is always a
journey and it's always a time machine to somewhere in
nineteen seventy two really captures that. How did you guys
feel making that track? Like putting that together?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
It's quite a unique a unique one for as far
as writing that one, because it's something that I had
never done before, and that was it Faster music. And
I was like, Okay, well, we need to be able
to relate with this, and I thought a great way
(08:37):
of relating is to is to write some lyrics on
the year that Me and Fast were born. So we
were both born in nineteen seventy two, and it was like,
let's go down the.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Rabbit hole of everything that was relevant.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
And I just read through the monstrous list of cracks
of nineteen seventy two and just it all down in
a story in the lyrics and it's I've never done
that before and it just come about. I Mean, it
amazed me how many cool things did kick off in
the year me and Faster born. You know, from the
(09:14):
beginning it being the China, the Chinese New Year, the
Sign of the Rat, all the way through to the
year that they pulled the troops out of Vietnam and
there's so many monumentous things. It was like quite a
joy to try and fit it into a melody line
to go along with the music. Fast sent up. So
it's cool that you that you dig that one. It
(09:35):
goes down pretty cool as well, like it's.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Great, definitely played and I heard it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was like when the music was being done, I
was thinking, Okay, this is like our kind of classic
rock jam with maybe a bit of like modern Sheryl
Crow thrown and I'll even throw that out.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
But it had that kind of classic rock.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Feel, so it fit the lyrics perfectly, and I got
I added a few American things that happened in the
seventies that maybe over easy to know. So it's kind
of like a global song that celebrates the year in
nineteen seventy two, in the seventies in general, with all
the exciting music and fashion and art and all that stuff.
So yeah, good jets.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Kind of it's an educational song, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
You know?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Does it hear those words and you go down the
rabbit hole? Who are these people? What those things that happened?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
When we play it, like people's faces almost they wish
they were born in nineteen seventy two as.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, you know, No, nineteen seventy two was a great change.
I really liked the lyric I saw for the first
time in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
Yeah, right, yeah, obviously about being the first you know,
when you're born, the first thing you do is open
your eyes, if you're lucky enough, and.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
That's where that particular lyric come from.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
It was the first day that me and Fast would
have seen the world, you know, so it's quite deep atchally, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So do you usually write the lyrics first and then
do the music or is it more of a music first.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, it's more I'll mess around with loads of beats
stuff in my studio and set stuff up to Frank.
So once we kind of have an idea, you know,
all right, here's where your verses cond be, your courses,
then Frank will start writing some lyrics, you know, I'll
write some lyrics. We'll mix lyrics together, and you know,
let's say a good example of that is the last
track on the album Lovers.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Rock is this great chorus with these kind of rhymes.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Because this band always sort of you know, again, mixing
all the genres took a bit of hip hop approach
to how you do lyrics, but then in courses, you know,
let's juice it up. Let's get good melodic lines for
the choruses. Let's put some harmonies in there, so you know,
it's it's again. Just doing this album is has been
a real We're just very grateful because it will really
(11:42):
work great and it came along pretty quick. It takes
a while to make a record, but the fact that
we'll be coming down to New Zealand, we're psyphered the
people that came last time and they come out again.
We're gonna play lots of new music, so that's cool.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, everyone's looking forward to it. There's a good buzz
about it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And Naim you've just recently, well not recently, but the
US addition to the band.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
How is it for you? Because I know that Frank A.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Fast You've played together for like twenty two decades or
so before, so yeah, coming into the mix, how was
it for you?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I love it, man, I love it.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
I first met the band in two thousand and three
and I was a roadie forum for a little while
and then did some recording with Fast and Frank in
two thousand and nine, and that became a reggae album
called Radio Riddler. So I've been in many bands with
Frank as well, and we've performed all around the world
(12:35):
with Uncle Frank.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So for me, it felt like a natural step. You know.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
The only issue I had was where could I, you know,
take the place of you know, such a big personality
that was, you know, that was Hueye. But the boys
assured me it would be all right, and.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I've just had a great time. It's been.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
It's been brilliant and fact we got to called new
material as well, you know, two EPs and an album. Now,
I think was the thing that I sing on the cake,
because I wouldn't really have wanted to join if we're
just going to play old songs. So although I love
playing the old songs, it's nice to be part of
something new as well.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
I just got I just got given a compliment that
I need to pass on to Naims, so now seems
a good time to do it.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
And not to name drop.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
I just went to somebody who's very famous in Manchester's
funeral and it was just water Wall legends that I've
just been with all day, and I just name him
come away from John squire who said to say that
you're a great player.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
How cool is that?
Speaker 8 (13:46):
No way, man, he doesn't know me.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
He actually was given the new album by Nico about
a month ago and he said it's great.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, he's got like YouTube video fans that just try
and copy his style. You know, he's a to hear
that from someone like that.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
It's amazing. Man, I don't.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
Believe he's super sweet as well. No, it's hand on heartbroke,
is you know it was? I thought, wow, So wait
till I say I said, he thinks you're absolutely awesome.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
That's what I told.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Name is absolutely awesome. Of course he is.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And he's you know, he can't join this band. He
had a very difficult role. You know, he had to
learn like fifty songs. He only had like a a
few rehearsals to get it together. So he's having the
time of his life. You know, he's on stage doing
and he's eating, sleeping.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Swimming, Like I mean, I just wish I would joined
thirty years ago. You know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
What it sounds like, you live in the dream. How's
it being for you? Fast?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Going from like just chilling at the bank, you know,
just being part of the band and now being the
front person of.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Nothing's different for me except now I, you know, do
do the majority of the vocals.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
You know, someone had to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I got the closest to a New York accent, which
is similar. When the band started, it was like we
were just write music, no thought of who's going to
be a singer or anything, and it just here we
had the best voice.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
So now I have it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Not necessarily the best voice, but my voice suits the
songs the most, and Frank is there to do his
harmonies and stuff. Nin gets in there does some harmonies,
so it's like rare. For the first time in the
band's history, we got three people that can sing on songs,
which is good.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
But yeah, it's just something else to do.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You know. I'm pretty busy on stage, but it's not
a big deal. So the sooner I can just memorize
all the songs because it's still hard.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
There's so many songs. And I like to have a
drink on stage.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I like to maybe have a little blaze and get
into the party and sometimes you know, things get screwy.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
We have a good time all the time. That's what's important.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
I mean, we've got into such a great groove on
the last tour that I weren't even thinking about how
to play the songs anymore.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
It's just it was muscle, we know. At that point.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
A little more it became more about the banter and
we have some skits on stage, you know, where you know,
some dramatical moment. Maybe we could do that in this
and I don't know what the boys want to do, but.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, it's we got so tight by the end of it,
it's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You're just having fun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's the fun part, right is getting on stage and
having the crowd in front. Like I guess this like
when you're creating the album, it's more like laying it down.
It's a different vibe in the studio to taking it
out to the messes. So that must for me, I
would imagine that would be the coolest part of it,
all right.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
I mean you have to steady yourself though a lot
of the time I do anyway. But it's it's fun
playing the shows. But that's that's the best it gets,
is when you're in front of the audience.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
The traveling and the energy.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
That you need to put the show on each day,
that you have to kind of look after yourself a bit.
And if that means, you know, kind of knowing when
to stop and having an early night and stuff like that,
I kind of take that bit quite serious as I
get older. When I was younger, I didn't give a shit,
but now it's like, I want to be able to
play well each night, and to do that you have
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to sacrifice a few things.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
So's it slightly.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Changed as the years have gone on, But as long
as the shows still kick ass as they do, that's
really the important bit for me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, the age thing is just the kind of natural thing.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
In our twenties, we weren't thinking. We were just so
lucky to be on stages outside of New York, outside
of the one night club, the Limelight we worked at.
So here we are thirty years later, and like my
man said, it's like we can't be cane in it,
but we do every.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Now and then.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But that's the important thing is, you know, just to
realize you've got four shows in a row, which in
your twenty didn't matter, but now it's like, all right,
we're gonna be feeling by the end of show too,
but we're not really. But it's important to keep it
together because especially coming all the way down Under. It's
like to come down there and just be hung over
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and act like a jerk off on stage is not
really what they the people pay the harder and money for,
and we've had enough of that in the band's history.
So again for now, it's like, we know what we
got to do, and there's always a professional aspect there
at the same time as you know, not taking ourselves
too seriously and having a good time and trying to
hang out with these people we ain't seen in years
(18:34):
or just meeting for the first time.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, well this is saying we don't bounce like we
used to the older that we get. I've skateboarded for
a long time and I got back on my skateboard
the other day and I was like, I'm gonna die.
This is not this isn't my twenties anymore. Hey, before
we wrap it up, I was just going to ask
each of you what are you listening to at the moment,
Like what is what's on your playlist of music? And
and what's your favorite movie? They're the two things came
(18:57):
to find out.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
I can't stop I can't stop listening to this girl
who's just sexy and hot, and she can rap, she
can sing, and she's got style and she's she's called
Naga nogat Ezra, which is spelled n Ogi Ezra. If
you've not heard of her, you need to start playing it.
And she's absolutely awesome. So that's who I've been listening
(19:21):
to a lot of. And the best film, the best film.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
That I've seen. I don't know. I've not been watching
many films.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
What I have been watching is this thing called Mister
Mercedes with Brian Gleeson in It's a it's a Netflix
kind of one of these serious things that is well
worth a watch. It's taken from Stephen King novel. Stephen
King produces it. But Brendan Gleeson is such a fabulous actor,
you know, the Irish guy, the big guy.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
He's Yeah, you got to check that out.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Films I've not really Oh no, yeah, I watched this
film called Court Steve with the guy who played you know,
the guy played Ovis Presley Austin.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Austin Butler, the Darren Aaron Osky film.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Great film.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
I love that was fantastic. Yeah, I really liked that.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Zoey Kravitz again incredibly hard and not as well Dan.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well for me, very talented her and that Noga Ezra
as well, even though Frank Starts was saying super hot.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
But it's for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
The album would be probably Chronics' new album Exile, which
is a bit of a change for him.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
It's it's going super.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Roots reggae and it's it's a surprising album and I'm
really enjoying it. Movies I have three. I saw Weapons
and I liked that one. And I saw a bunch
of movies this year and didn't like many of them.
But Weapons I thought was good. One battle after another
I thought was really good. And the more I watch
it, it gets funny and funnier. It's probably Leo being the
(20:50):
funniest he's ever been. You know, he's a great comedian
like he was for Wall Street. But the top one
for me was Kill Bill the whole Bloody Affair, which
was tan you know, editing Kill Bill one and two
together like you originally plan and it's uncut and it
was like four hours forty five minutes long. And I
sat through that like two weeks ago while we were
(21:11):
on tour and it was just awesome in a cinema.
So that's me.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What about you?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now can you see me? I think I've just lost you. Guys.
We can hear you.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You can't see it, but we can hear you.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Oh yeah, I should be back. Yeah, I've been listening
to just my playlist. I've added a lot of like
female singers have gone back Loving Randy Crawford, Dione Warwick,
Cleo Soul.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
It's one I really like at the minute. Just some
real seventies stuff, Bob James and.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
A movie wise. Uh, well, I've been watching series. I've
been watching Fallout. Oh yeah, you know, it's the It's
really good. It's just the second season. It's just started,
so I'm into that.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
In a minute, you have to you have to take
whatever name says in film really good with a pinch
of salt, because he told you fast about this film,
like for so long he was hyping this film.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Got a thing.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Got to give us his name of the film.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
It's called a Little Missy and it's the wrong that's
the wrong missy, and it's the worst great comedy, terrible.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Watch it the wrong miss Waste time with that, waste
your time on that commute name you commute, Na, So listen,
the big question you need to ask Frank is what
is he going to be listening to on Christmas Day?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
What are you going to be listening to on Christmas Day? Frank?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yes, Frank, what are.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You going to be listening to on Christmas Day?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
But I've got a playlist of all the Christmas classics,
But sang by this amazing Punjabi Indian guy and he
just makes him sound like super funny. So I'm going
to put that on instead of the old classics. I'm
going to go with this Indian artist that is just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We love we love Fat Freddy's obviously, we love the
Black Seeds, those guys we've been fans of for years
and our reggae group Radio Grida actually has done some
support slots opening for Black Seeds when they come through London.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
So we love Ariga. We love our reggae in New Zealand.
We've always been big so do.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We're we're big reggae fans that you every drive we do,
we're driving from town to town, like Frank was saying earlier,
where that's not the fun part of the job. You're
driving three four hours, where you're flying a couple hours.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
We're always listening to reggae playlists.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
That's so cool. Well, thank you so much for your talking.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
About Yeah there, absolutely I will see you there in March,
have a fantastic Christmas, New Year, and we'll see you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Take cayo, bless you, blessed so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Back Radio hurdoches Off the Record podcast. Why not subscribe
so they download automatically and don't forget to rate.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Us five stars?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Thanks mate. Find out more about this podcast and the
people who make it at hodache dot co dot nz.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
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