April 13, 2026 • 10 mins
After playing in Christchurch, Jakob from Sublime called in on his way to their Auckland show, ahead of their Brewtown appearance in Upper Hutt. He chatted about loving G Love, intergenerational music and answered some questions from Radio Hauraki listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome the Record the radio Hodokes Off the Record podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's the record with Big Sandys.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I love these nylon strings, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Love it like this.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Welcome Jacob, thank you so much for coming into the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know we're here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You've just been in my hometown of christ It doing
a gig beer. But the coolest saying was, my mate
brought his teenage kids up from Wanaka, which is cool
little ski town in the South Island. They came up
to your gig in christ Chitch on Wednesday, no kidding,
and Freddy was up the front and you gave him
your guitar pick.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So you may. You made a teenager absolute night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's why I love doing this stuff. Man. There's there's
a lot of multi generational you know people who come
to our shows. It's it's it's incredible. Yeah, that's really
sweet and you never know you're gonna interact with that's
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also shows how small New Zealander is. I just speak
to one person and I'm like, yeah, yeah, pretty got
the guitar pick, and like pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You got so chop. I figure wouldn't mind if I
ate my breakfast here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I go for it, man, Like you know, you just
woke up.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm a lucky I'm a lucky guy who got lucky
from a small town called Long Beach, California, and I'm
happy to be out here. You know, I can't believe
I get to play these big shows. Man. I just
hope people are enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, they are. All the feedback that we heard from
the Crime One. I mean, people have been my generation.
We grew up like skateboarding, snowboarding, listening to Sublime, and
it's just so cool to see that. You know, you're
now fronting the band and all of us mates have
got kids now that are listening to the new generation
of Sublime music but really appreciating you know, the original.
(02:19):
The og churns and like they were saying, it was
just banger after banger after banger at the gig on Wednesday.
So lots of people are excited to see you play
in Auckland tonight. So we put some questions out to
the listeners. Yeah, and so Dino has just said, if
there's any chance of another Auckland show. Really wanted my
(02:41):
kids to see you guys, but missed out on tickets
in the under eighteen section.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh no, we absolutely will come back. You know, this
has been such an amazing trip and it's a beautiful country.
And what's unfortunate is when we come out on these trips,
we never get to see what we want to see.
You get to barely do what we want to do.
I went to PBS yesterday. It was awesome and just
very cool, spiritual place, you know, not just one of
(03:07):
thousands of the things we want to do while we're
out here. So we're playing Auckland tonight and then Wellington
tomorrow and then we just go right home. There's not
enough time at all, So we would love to come
back and get to really experience the country, and to
do that on these work trips it's going to take
at least three or four more times, so you cant
(03:27):
expect to see more of us. And we just appreciate
your continued support.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's awesome to hear. I've got another one, Ryan from
and the cargo's right down the bottom of the South Island.
Hey boys, Jacob, do you want other influencers play much
part in the making of new songs or do you
strictly try to keep to the same sound as you're
Dead and the leads and the band.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I would say the latter, you know, I like the
we're working on this last Sublime record. It was really
listening to the stuff that made Bud and Eric and
my dad Bradley excited as music listeners. So for me,
it was trying to channel of like, you know, bad brains,
buttle surfers men at mem Johnny Osborne, Jacob Miller, you
(04:08):
know a lot a lot of that kind of stuff. Easy, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And what are your like your tastes of music? What
has influenced you coming, you know, to where you are
now as a musician. What was your influence of music?
Was it much the same?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A little bit of everything. You know, my favorite band
is Gorillas, and I are really like outcasts too, but
those are like stuff I grew up with, kind of
stuff that's not necessarily what I listened to every day.
I like discovering new up and coming artists. You know,
there's just so much great music that's happening right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Have you had any opportunity at or to listen to
some New Zealand bands while you've been here, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Only Summer Thieves the band that's opening up for us,
and they rock. They're awesome, such nice dudes too, but
I would love the opportunity to hear more.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, there's some fantastic I mean, I can't weird you.
The music scene in New Zealand is quite vibrant and alive,
and I think you'd fit in really with it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I want to check out the hip hop scene.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Know, Yeah, there's a great hip hop scene. Fantastic artist here.
I don't know if you've heard of it, keep it
artist called Troy Kingey and he has set himself this
goal to do ten different genres of music over a decade.
So he's just released his hip hop one about three
months ago.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
What a cool concept, What a really cool concept, man,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, he's definitely someone a musician.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
To put me on.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I turn you on it.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Another question here from Shane and Hamilton. What song do
you love playing at your gigs? And what song do
you dislike playing? And where is the most memorable concept
location you've played so far?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
All great ones, man. The song I like playing most
is probably greatest hits as TP and All You Need.
It's really fun. I like when Sublime is a project
demonstrates how multi genre all they are just like we
were just talking about an artist who does that. Sublime
seems like they switch genres ten times one song, so
it's and blends it seamlessly in a way that is
unique and recognizable at least for everyone to play. I
(06:06):
wouldn't even use the term least favorite. I don't want
to give that in pressure because I really do love
the material and enjoy playing and I just feel lucky
to even get to be doing it. But a challenge
song for me is sometimes Santa Ria the big hit.
Not because it's the big hit. I think it's one
of the best written songs ever, and it feels awesome
and gratifying fun to play, but it can be sometimes
I dread it coming up because for some reason, it's
(06:27):
just a hard one to nail. For me, it's hard
one to get good. Sometimes doing Time is the same
way too, And also Romeo, I don't know why I
just and then again there's no reason. This is just
from the like performer side of things. Sometimes it could
be something so simple as the note you start on,
or there's a transition that's always a little odd. So
those ones are are challenge songs for me personally, not
(06:50):
for anything really technical. Just they just are. And then
was the last question of the.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Most memorable concert location so far?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Most memorable. Oh, it's that's impossible, man, But I will
say that this trip has been amazing. Christ Church was
certainly memorable. All the shows who played in nos were
certainly memorable. These are brand new places we've been to.
So when you play, you know, a brand new show
in a new country, like last year we played in
oh Man, Costa Rica, and in Brazil and a bunch
(07:20):
of other places. And with my band Jacob's Castle, we
played in Japan. That was certainly memorable. So shout out
to all those amazing places. And the fact that music
can travel around the world and reach other people is
memorable enough in itself.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, truly, that's a great way to connect to the
World's a big place, but it's just amazing now through
just the push of a button you are connected on
such a cool vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I was looking at your album on who you
collaborated with on your new album. G Love was in there.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
G Love, Yes, back of the bus back in the day.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, he came.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think it was like garbage man. Well, no, he was,
but he has a song on garbage on the job.
Besides being g Love was being the garbage man. He
was saying that we were on tour.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He was great, good, Yeah, because I think I saw
them well. He came over with the Xavier Rudd and
possibly Jack Johnson like two thousand and two or something,
and I'd never I'd heard of him, but watching him live,
it was like after that moment, me and my sister
were just obsessed.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He plays one of my favorite live sets. Man so good.
Just there's nothing quite like it that sounds like sounds
like him out there.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Man, how did that collaboration come around?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh? Man? I mean he he's you love especial Stfice
for the first live concert show ever went to when
I was a little baby and my mom took me
and I so badly wanted to play a Night of
the Living Dead and he did, but I think I
fell asleep because I was a baby. Yeah, I was
like three or four. But so yeah, He's always been
a family friend in certain senses. And then my band
Jacob's Castle got to open up for him a couple
(08:52):
of years ago and then eventually moved on to making
the Sublime record. Could have thought of know oning better
to be part of it, so that was awesome. We
also had Fletcher from Penny Wise and hr from Bad Brains,
so just some real friends and heroes of the band,
and then some people who are inspired by Sublime, who
are friends from sort of the next generation in a
lot of ways, like Fid Lawer. We got Zach for Fidlaarer,
(09:14):
we got Benny from Skegg's awesome Australian band, and of
course are now you know Junior Cadet guitar player who's
been playing with us on stage, my friend Zena, who
have sort of snuck him into the project and roped
him in and he helped write the album with us.
You know, he's all over this thing. And he does
the banks track at the end, so shout out to
his solo project, Zano. So you kind of have three
(09:35):
from the old school, three from the new schools the
way I see it. And we wanted to just you know,
twenty more, but we didn't want it to just be
a big album where we're just featuring people. We wanted
to show people what you know, we could do as
this lineup. But I think it was the perfect right amount.
And this album is just the thing I'm most proud
of that I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Amazing. Well, I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys tonight.
Welcome to New Zealand and thank you England and the
cyclone treats you well.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly hope. The wrath of the
gods is kind. But that being said, at times like
these were it just gives me even more appreciation for
what we do and while we're out here, So thank
you to everybody it's coming out to the show. Sorry
anybody who couldn't make it, It was really looking forward to it.
I'm just gonna have to make you a promise that
we got to come back again and play these songs
for you. We love you guys so very much and
(10:23):
we're gonna keep on loving you until the sun explodes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Amazing. Thanks Jacob.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Radio hoad Aches Off the Record podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Why not subscribe so they download automatically and don't forget
to rate us five stars?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Find out more about this podcast and the people who
make it at hodache dot co dot nz.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It
Welcome the Record the radio Hodokes Off the Record podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's the record with Big Sandys.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I love these nylon strings, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Love it like this.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Welcome Jacob, thank you so much for coming into the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know we're here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You've just been in my hometown of christ It doing
a gig beer. But the coolest saying was, my mate
brought his teenage kids up from Wanaka, which is cool
little ski town in the South Island. They came up
to your gig in christ Chitch on Wednesday, no kidding,
and Freddy was up the front and you gave him
your guitar pick.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So you may. You made a teenager absolute night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's why I love doing this stuff. Man. There's there's
a lot of multi generational you know people who come
to our shows. It's it's it's incredible. Yeah, that's really
sweet and you never know you're gonna interact with that's
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also shows how small New Zealander is. I just speak
to one person and I'm like, yeah, yeah, pretty got
the guitar pick, and like pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You got so chop. I figure wouldn't mind if I
ate my breakfast here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I go for it, man, Like you know, you just
woke up.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm a lucky I'm a lucky guy who got lucky
from a small town called Long Beach, California, and I'm
happy to be out here. You know, I can't believe
I get to play these big shows. Man. I just
hope people are enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, they are. All the feedback that we heard from
the Crime One. I mean, people have been my generation.
We grew up like skateboarding, snowboarding, listening to Sublime, and
it's just so cool to see that. You know, you're
now fronting the band and all of us mates have
got kids now that are listening to the new generation
of Sublime music but really appreciating you know, the original.
(02:19):
The og churns and like they were saying, it was
just banger after banger after banger at the gig on Wednesday.
So lots of people are excited to see you play
in Auckland tonight. So we put some questions out to
the listeners. Yeah, and so Dino has just said, if
there's any chance of another Auckland show. Really wanted my
(02:41):
kids to see you guys, but missed out on tickets
in the under eighteen section.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh no, we absolutely will come back. You know, this
has been such an amazing trip and it's a beautiful country.
And what's unfortunate is when we come out on these trips,
we never get to see what we want to see.
You get to barely do what we want to do.
I went to PBS yesterday. It was awesome and just
very cool, spiritual place, you know, not just one of
(03:07):
thousands of the things we want to do while we're
out here. So we're playing Auckland tonight and then Wellington
tomorrow and then we just go right home. There's not
enough time at all, So we would love to come
back and get to really experience the country, and to
do that on these work trips it's going to take
at least three or four more times, so you cant
(03:27):
expect to see more of us. And we just appreciate
your continued support.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's awesome to hear. I've got another one, Ryan from
and the cargo's right down the bottom of the South Island.
Hey boys, Jacob, do you want other influencers play much
part in the making of new songs or do you
strictly try to keep to the same sound as you're
Dead and the leads and the band.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I would say the latter, you know, I like the
we're working on this last Sublime record. It was really
listening to the stuff that made Bud and Eric and
my dad Bradley excited as music listeners. So for me,
it was trying to channel of like, you know, bad brains,
buttle surfers men at mem Johnny Osborne, Jacob Miller, you
(04:08):
know a lot a lot of that kind of stuff. Easy, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And what are your like your tastes of music? What
has influenced you coming, you know, to where you are
now as a musician. What was your influence of music?
Was it much the same?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A little bit of everything. You know, my favorite band
is Gorillas, and I are really like outcasts too, but
those are like stuff I grew up with, kind of
stuff that's not necessarily what I listened to every day.
I like discovering new up and coming artists. You know,
there's just so much great music that's happening right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Have you had any opportunity at or to listen to
some New Zealand bands while you've been here, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Only Summer Thieves the band that's opening up for us,
and they rock. They're awesome, such nice dudes too, but
I would love the opportunity to hear more.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, there's some fantastic I mean, I can't weird you.
The music scene in New Zealand is quite vibrant and alive,
and I think you'd fit in really with it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I want to check out the hip hop scene.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Know, Yeah, there's a great hip hop scene. Fantastic artist here.
I don't know if you've heard of it, keep it
artist called Troy Kingey and he has set himself this
goal to do ten different genres of music over a decade.
So he's just released his hip hop one about three
months ago.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
What a cool concept, What a really cool concept, man,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, he's definitely someone a musician.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
To put me on.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I turn you on it.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Another question here from Shane and Hamilton. What song do
you love playing at your gigs? And what song do
you dislike playing? And where is the most memorable concept
location you've played so far?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
All great ones, man. The song I like playing most
is probably greatest hits as TP and All You Need.
It's really fun. I like when Sublime is a project
demonstrates how multi genre all they are just like we
were just talking about an artist who does that. Sublime
seems like they switch genres ten times one song, so
it's and blends it seamlessly in a way that is
unique and recognizable at least for everyone to play. I
(06:06):
wouldn't even use the term least favorite. I don't want
to give that in pressure because I really do love
the material and enjoy playing and I just feel lucky
to even get to be doing it. But a challenge
song for me is sometimes Santa Ria the big hit.
Not because it's the big hit. I think it's one
of the best written songs ever, and it feels awesome
and gratifying fun to play, but it can be sometimes
I dread it coming up because for some reason, it's
(06:27):
just a hard one to nail. For me, it's hard
one to get good. Sometimes doing Time is the same
way too, And also Romeo, I don't know why I
just and then again there's no reason. This is just
from the like performer side of things. Sometimes it could
be something so simple as the note you start on,
or there's a transition that's always a little odd. So
those ones are are challenge songs for me personally, not
(06:50):
for anything really technical. Just they just are. And then
was the last question of the.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Most memorable concert location so far?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Most memorable. Oh, it's that's impossible, man, But I will
say that this trip has been amazing. Christ Church was
certainly memorable. All the shows who played in nos were
certainly memorable. These are brand new places we've been to.
So when you play, you know, a brand new show
in a new country, like last year we played in
oh Man, Costa Rica, and in Brazil and a bunch
(07:20):
of other places. And with my band Jacob's Castle, we
played in Japan. That was certainly memorable. So shout out
to all those amazing places. And the fact that music
can travel around the world and reach other people is
memorable enough in itself.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, truly, that's a great way to connect to the
World's a big place, but it's just amazing now through
just the push of a button you are connected on
such a cool vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I was looking at your album on who you
collaborated with on your new album. G Love was in there.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
G Love, Yes, back of the bus back in the day.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, he came.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think it was like garbage man. Well, no, he was,
but he has a song on garbage on the job.
Besides being g Love was being the garbage man. He
was saying that we were on tour.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He was great, good, Yeah, because I think I saw
them well. He came over with the Xavier Rudd and
possibly Jack Johnson like two thousand and two or something,
and I'd never I'd heard of him, but watching him live,
it was like after that moment, me and my sister
were just obsessed.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He plays one of my favorite live sets. Man so good.
Just there's nothing quite like it that sounds like sounds
like him out there.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Man, how did that collaboration come around?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh? Man? I mean he he's you love especial Stfice
for the first live concert show ever went to when
I was a little baby and my mom took me
and I so badly wanted to play a Night of
the Living Dead and he did, but I think I
fell asleep because I was a baby. Yeah, I was
like three or four. But so yeah, He's always been
a family friend in certain senses. And then my band
Jacob's Castle got to open up for him a couple
(08:52):
of years ago and then eventually moved on to making
the Sublime record. Could have thought of know oning better
to be part of it, so that was awesome. We
also had Fletcher from Penny Wise and hr from Bad Brains,
so just some real friends and heroes of the band,
and then some people who are inspired by Sublime, who
are friends from sort of the next generation in a
lot of ways, like Fid Lawer. We got Zach for Fidlaarer,
(09:14):
we got Benny from Skegg's awesome Australian band, and of
course are now you know Junior Cadet guitar player who's
been playing with us on stage, my friend Zena, who
have sort of snuck him into the project and roped
him in and he helped write the album with us.
You know, he's all over this thing. And he does
the banks track at the end, so shout out to
his solo project, Zano. So you kind of have three
(09:35):
from the old school, three from the new schools the
way I see it. And we wanted to just you know,
twenty more, but we didn't want it to just be
a big album where we're just featuring people. We wanted
to show people what you know, we could do as
this lineup. But I think it was the perfect right amount.
And this album is just the thing I'm most proud
of that I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Amazing. Well, I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys tonight.
Welcome to New Zealand and thank you England and the
cyclone treats you well.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly hope. The wrath of the
gods is kind. But that being said, at times like
these were it just gives me even more appreciation for
what we do and while we're out here, So thank
you to everybody it's coming out to the show. Sorry
anybody who couldn't make it, It was really looking forward to it.
I'm just gonna have to make you a promise that
we got to come back again and play these songs
for you. We love you guys so very much and
(10:23):
we're gonna keep on loving you until the sun explodes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Amazing. Thanks Jacob.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Radio hoad Aches Off the Record podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Why not subscribe so they download automatically and don't forget
to rate us five stars?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Find out more about this podcast and the people who
make it at hodache dot co dot nz.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
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