March 10, 2026 • 18 mins
Dan from The Black Seeds called in to talk about waking a celebrity, their summer tour with UB40 and the upcoming performance at Mānuka Phuel SYNTHONY Festival, which returns to the Auckland Domain on Saturday 21 March 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Radio Hodarkeys Off the Record podcast with Jeremy
Wells and the nice Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Daniel Weatman from the Black Seeds joins us this morning. Daniel,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm good? Thank you, yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thanks for coming in. I hear you've got the morning
off your normal job this morning to do the to do?
Are you doing the rounds or just.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You guys exclusively? Just to you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Wow, we're super lucky and your work normally, Daniel, is I.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do height installs, supervise some young lads to do high
installs like installing excess letters to your roofs, anchors on
the roofs, pathways and stuff like that. So a lot
of hepwork.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
So like the guys, there's some of them out there
at the moment repelling down the side of the building.
I think they're cleaning the windows. Yeah, but that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, I don't supervise that. I used to hang off buildings,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's it's exactly so much of that you can do.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. I used to get very nervous doing that.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You really yeah, yeah, well yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A strange profession to go into. If you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, I kind of fell into it really. I was
working for a sign installation company and the guy said, hey,
we're going to I'm going to pull all the boys
through their tickets to do irata. That's one of the
seats that you can get. And I said, yeah, I'll
do it. And I didn't really think about it enough.
I knew we were going to be hanging off buildings, but
(01:33):
it's yeah, it's quite complicated. It's in the tense. Five
days of training and yeah, I did it. And then
I guess as you you know, you hang off buildings,
you get used to that feeling of the fair and
then once you're there where you just got to do
the work and kind of look at what you're doing
in front of you rather than looking down.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, have you seen that thing on Netflix? That guy
that Alex Honald, the free solo guy? Have you seen
that he climbed I have type A one on one
is like the second biggest building world. That is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean he's next level though, but just the stress, the.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like the butthole puckering when you're watching this and then
the drone shots around it. As someone who's been up
the What did you think when you were watching it
bring back some trick?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it definitely brings it back, and you feel it
in your body for sure. I mean yeah, I mean
that's he's a unique individual, isn't he. Yeah, but you'd
have to be. I think it's I think it's a
great thing to do to face your fears, such as
anything in life and when you're hanging off a building
and having to use your tools and do the job.
(02:37):
I think I think it's helped me in a lot
of ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I like to face my fears, Daniel, but generally not
in a physical sense.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So I think like I'm facing them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, I think in a mental sense, you know, like
things that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But physically I feel like that's my that's my brain
saying you shouldn't be up there doing that, and your
brain does right, yeah, and my brain is right there,
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So you just like to think about them rather than
do them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, there's a lot I mean in a broadcasting sense,
you know, where you're worried about how something might play out,
how that might affect you, your for the ringles, then yeah,
then that's something that you can face and realize Okay,
well I was always going to survive that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, it's funny because that's what I was thinking when
I came to the interview. It's always a bit of
nerve wracking to come and speak, but you know, you
have to do it. And I think it's the same
as ab sailing. I had to go over the bit,
I had to do the job. I had to get
over the building and facing that fair was great.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Is there going to be any ab sailing that you
could incorporate into the Black Seeds performance?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Perhaps?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean, have you considered a concept from the side
of a building.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I saw Jane's Addiction at Lolapalooza not long ago, and
they had people on these like like strings basically strings probably,
and they were just flying out into the crowd, dressed
in kind of bondage gear as they would and and
(04:09):
sort of getting kind of and some were attached like
to this skin through Like yeah, it was quite full.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
On any plans for that for the Black Seeds.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Through the skin through the skin like like hooks, hooks
through the skin and they were they were being flowing out.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Wow, the whole the whole game.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I love dediction. I mean that would have been that
sounds amazing, But for the seeds probably not. I get
a bit nerdy when I go to gigs and see
how they're rigged up and there's you know, all the
lighting gets rigged up by rigas who do EBB sailing.
Usually I sort of check out that. But for the seeds, no,
(04:54):
I mean going back to when I was like eight,
my parents took me to see Lionel Richie and he
had that song dancing on the ceiling and then half
of the half of the people that were playing on
stage actually got pulled up on wires like that. Wow,
at the end of the concert. Ye, it was quite
Where did you see Lionel Richard Western Springs?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it at Lionel's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Linel was just like Lionel loomed large. That would have
been like eighty five eighty six seven vibe man, he
loomed large of over nineteen eighty five eighty six and
he's on the other world at the time as well.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Just after that, I mean, he put the whole thing together,
didn't he. Lionel Basically yeah, Lionel, Lionel. We interviewed Lionel
the while back, and he is one of the nicest
most charming people you'll ever meet in your entire He's
one of the you know what, the with the list
of kind of celebrities that you meet, the real top
(05:54):
of the top, like the linel riches of the world,
the nicest people there's They are always like the a
as are always the nicest, most charming, like ridiculous people
you've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And they just have a gift. They'll remember your name.
They'll call you your name during the interview in order
like you're sort of overwhelmed, you know, is your name,
and seems to keep remembering it the whole time during
the interview. And then I find that it's not kind
of the case with everybody, but but guys like him,
you're like, oh man, you've.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Got the gift, like thet Now I want to know
who was the worst? Can you say?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, no, I'll openly say I think it's I think
it's fair. Remember j Barker really exactly, he's on flight of.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The concourse the flat mate, I think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well here that here the bandana, and he was like
the American.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I think he's Canadian, but yeah, you're very nice.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Such a dick, such a dick. And it was like
what is up with that guy? He turned up? He
turned up just like you did today, Danny, exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And repelled into the building and was.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Here to promote something like he was wanting to sell
tickets to a show, and just kind of acted like,
I don't know, like he just did not want to
be here at all, and was a real we're just asking,
just trying to have a chat like we're having now,
and he just shut everything down, like completely shut everything.
(07:37):
Was like, oh, you're coming here to promote your thing.
We don't really care that much about ash, Like, I
don't really care that much about chat, always happy to chalk,
and he was like, man, it was weird. And then
afterwards we chatted to a couple of the other comedians
who have dealt with him that you know, that's just
something he just hates. He just a bit of an ahole.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You probably, I guess exactly what. You must have met
some pretty big musicians touring over the years.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I got a good one. Yeah. We were in Switzerland.
We did this festival and Smashing Punkins were playing, and
then their room actually ended up being right next to ours,
and we finished the gig early, did the rounds, checking
out the festival, came back. I was a few drinks down,
(08:27):
so I was I was wanting, yeah, confident, so confident.
His bodyguard was really into the Warriors and we were
chatting about that. A bodyguard, yeah, two of them, the
one New Zealand Warriors. Yeah yeah. He was a multifiler.
(08:49):
So we were chatting, rocking, see you later, and and
then I peered through the door and then there's Billy
Corgan there just having a nap and and I just kind.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of rocked and I think I woke him up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, I said hey, hey, hey, Billy, and he
got up and was like, well he man. I said, oh,
I'm Daniel from the Black Seas. You know, really fast.
We just played a girl. I've just got the room
next year. I just wanted to say I just love
the first two albums, just that too long ago.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
A lot.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Just made one album.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You need to do a double seed.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Who knows what we're happening if I told him that.
But he was great. He was like, you know, he
had a bit of a chair, but he remembered. He said,
oh New Zealand, I haven't been back there since the
big day out. He never invaded us back and I
was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I think they would have invited you. I think they
would have invited like that open to inviting. I'm sure
this Mampkins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Sure that he was great. And then bodyguards came in.
There was a there was a German bodyguard with the
multi feller and I just felt this huge hand just
grabbed my arm, and I was like, oh, okay, because
I just wanted in there. They had done their job,
they hadn't done their job, and so they've probably been embarrassed.
And I just kind of looked at Billy, and Billy
was like, yeah, that's okay, that's okay, and he said, oh,
(10:19):
I guess this is where we do bones. And we
did bones and I said thank you, and that was that.
I see you later. He was really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Billy Corgan asleep asleep. He probably he probably thought when
you woke him that you were coming from.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I was pretty relaxed. But he was the older version
of Billy Corgan where he's got the whole black attire
and but it's a bit overweight. He's got the pot
belly and and that sort of hanging out underneath his
T shirt and but he was a lovely guy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It was a.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
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Speaker 2 (11:05):
More What's happening with Symphony? So you guys are a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean we're playing at the show. When it
first got announced to us, we thought that we were
going to be playing with the symphony, which I thought, Wow,
that's that's quite a big task to do. But we're not.
We're just coming to play our tunes, which I think
is great. And it's an early show, and you know,
I'm from Auckland, so I'm playing in the hometown show
(11:32):
like that, and that's going to be our last show
of our summer stuint so it's going to be great.
Going to take my son and my mum along and
they're going to love that. And yeah, just really looking
forward to playing some new tunes and some old classics.
And it's a it's only going to be like fifty minutes,
so that's an easy job for us.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Right, how many songs you get away in fifty minutes?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fifty minutes? Maybe maybe ten instrumental really long long one
So have you guys been in the studio recording anything
new at the moment. Yeah, we released a song late
last year, this track called Compassion, and now we're just
working on well, it's pretty much finished this new track,
(12:16):
eight bit it's called and so that's going to be
released god, probably in the next three weeks, so you
hear about that. And then we've got a whole lot
of demos. You know, we live all over the country.
It's really hard to get us all together in one room.
So over the last couple of years we've got together
down at Wellington and recorded a whole lot of tracks
(12:37):
and yeah, we just need to get some vocals and
more overdubs over them. But we're pretty excited about it,
you know. So we're excited about that for the for
the coming rest of the year, we'll release singles along
the way and then and then we've got Canada coming
up in June, which is exciting based around this victorious
(12:58):
scar festival, and so it'd be great to get back
to Canada.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is it a bit more like you mentioned releasing the singles?
Is it more of these days about just once you've
got a song, put it out rather than compiling an
album because it's all online, right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, man, it's a funny one day. When we started,
you know, you know we've been going, what is it
twenty seven years now? We started, you know, it was
it was album based. Yeah, we didn't have Spotify, we
didn't have the streaming services. So that's what we're focused on.
And then now recently we dis made that decision like, yeah,
let's just release the singles. It's release tracks and yeah,
(13:35):
and rather.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Than waiting to have a random number.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The whole package, yeah, which I think is healthy and
keeps us motivated to finish the bloody other And I.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Feel like you guys do a lot of overseas touring
in the past.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You have, Yeah, Jeremy is the type of it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is it because of the genre of music that you're
playing that it's got an international appeal? Is that what's
going on? Because I mean not there's not a huge
amount of New Zealand groups that are doing a whole
lot of international.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think it's all the work that we did over
the years, going back to like the just after the
first album, keep on pushing, Well, actually that was after
on the Sun and then we started to go to
England and I think we were going a lot twice
a year Europe and the States and just putting in
that groundwork has put our name out there on the
(14:26):
international circuit. So it's great to be us back. You know,
we possibly go back to Europe next year. So yeah,
it's all that sort of work really. I mean bands
these days who are starting, I think you've just you know,
we get into complete debt from going overseas, but you've
got to get out there. And because releasing a song
(14:49):
is really not going to people are going to play it,
but they're not going to it's seen you live, which
is where they get convinced and being present out there,
going out speaking to media out there. So yeah, I
think it's all that, all that work that we've done
in the past. Really, I think it puts down to
that and doing good shows over there.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And well, where are some of the countries that you've
been you mentioned in UK we're about. Is Germany a
big one for you guys?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Germany is great for us.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, they love reggae and stuff in Germany they do.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, it always. Ah, I think there's there's I don't know,
in a lot of countries they love reggae music, reggae
dub music.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I just don't associate Germany with you know what I mean,
been produced as Germans. You probably hadn't this, but I
just assoc yeah, David. But then they've also got just
a massive low on a Fat Freddy's tour a lot
over there, seed, I think that's a German reggae band.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
They French or yeah, maybe French, European European, yes.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
With about five hundred people in the band. But yeah,
so I don't know what it is about Europe. They
just just love it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean, and like I said, we just got
to get out there and play to them, and we're
really grateful to get back to Canada. There's a there's
a massive scene there as well, you know, I mean
regae is I think you know, Bob Marley did the work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You should always think.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so you guys are all living in different places
and that must be cool as well, because you're if
you're not seeing each other a whole lot, and then
all of a sudden you get together back to tour
and go overseas again. Yeah, that must be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It is. I mean, it's an amazing bunch of guys.
Is eight of us. I mean, if we're around each other,
I would think that we would still have great relationships.
But I mean when we get back together, it's it's
it's like getting back with old mates. It's just hanging
out and doing a doing a great job. And it's
and it's the same in the student radio. Yeah, I'm
(17:03):
very grateful.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Does it take much practice or rehearsal at this point
or could you guys just walk into a room and just.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Wow, that's a funny one. I know, we've been put
into this situation where we can't rehearse all the time.
So it's like everybody rehearse at home and but and
then you know, the set list will get changed to
what what do we really know? But we've been doing
it for so long the way that if we do
add something, and we'll try and do it at sound check, right, yeah,
(17:33):
and if it works there, then okay, let's keep going.
And you know, a lot of eye contact, a lot
of you come on, here's the change, So.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
MOR's coming up.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So I think it makes me a better musician, just
been that intensity on stage that's you know, to make
it right, Yeah, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it's all happening Aukland Domain, Minucua Feel Symphony Saturday.
That's not the said day, but the following Saturday, the
twenty first of March. There's still some tickets available. It's
always massive, it's always a good vibe and popular. Obviously
you've got the Black Seeds, shape Shift Exponents, nice and
shape Shifting, Faithless.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Sagada, Kay Bell Bellia going on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's a it's a fantastic event, Daniel, thank you so
much for coming in. Jeez, guys, lovely to see you
and and best of luck with the gigs.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, thank you very much. Keep out the great work guys.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
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Welcome to Radio Hodarkeys Off the Record podcast with Jeremy
Wells and the nice Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Daniel Weatman from the Black Seeds joins us this morning. Daniel,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm good? Thank you, yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thanks for coming in. I hear you've got the morning
off your normal job this morning to do the to do?
Are you doing the rounds or just.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You guys exclusively? Just to you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Wow, we're super lucky and your work normally, Daniel, is I.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do height installs, supervise some young lads to do high
installs like installing excess letters to your roofs, anchors on
the roofs, pathways and stuff like that. So a lot
of hepwork.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
So like the guys, there's some of them out there
at the moment repelling down the side of the building.
I think they're cleaning the windows. Yeah, but that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, I don't supervise that. I used to hang off buildings,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's it's exactly so much of that you can do.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. I used to get very nervous doing that.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You really yeah, yeah, well yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A strange profession to go into. If you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, I kind of fell into it really. I was
working for a sign installation company and the guy said, hey,
we're going to I'm going to pull all the boys
through their tickets to do irata. That's one of the
seats that you can get. And I said, yeah, I'll
do it. And I didn't really think about it enough.
I knew we were going to be hanging off buildings, but
(01:33):
it's yeah, it's quite complicated. It's in the tense. Five
days of training and yeah, I did it. And then
I guess as you you know, you hang off buildings,
you get used to that feeling of the fair and
then once you're there where you just got to do
the work and kind of look at what you're doing
in front of you rather than looking down.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, have you seen that thing on Netflix? That guy
that Alex Honald, the free solo guy? Have you seen
that he climbed I have type A one on one
is like the second biggest building world. That is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean he's next level though, but just the stress, the.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like the butthole puckering when you're watching this and then
the drone shots around it. As someone who's been up
the What did you think when you were watching it
bring back some trick?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it definitely brings it back, and you feel it
in your body for sure. I mean yeah, I mean
that's he's a unique individual, isn't he. Yeah, but you'd
have to be. I think it's I think it's a
great thing to do to face your fears, such as
anything in life and when you're hanging off a building
and having to use your tools and do the job.
(02:37):
I think I think it's helped me in a lot
of ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I like to face my fears, Daniel, but generally not
in a physical sense.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So I think like I'm facing them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, I think in a mental sense, you know, like
things that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But physically I feel like that's my that's my brain
saying you shouldn't be up there doing that, and your
brain does right, yeah, and my brain is right there,
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So you just like to think about them rather than
do them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, there's a lot I mean in a broadcasting sense,
you know, where you're worried about how something might play out,
how that might affect you, your for the ringles, then yeah,
then that's something that you can face and realize Okay,
well I was always going to survive that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, it's funny because that's what I was thinking when
I came to the interview. It's always a bit of
nerve wracking to come and speak, but you know, you
have to do it. And I think it's the same
as ab sailing. I had to go over the bit,
I had to do the job. I had to get
over the building and facing that fair was great.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Is there going to be any ab sailing that you
could incorporate into the Black Seeds performance?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Perhaps?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean, have you considered a concept from the side
of a building.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I saw Jane's Addiction at Lolapalooza not long ago, and
they had people on these like like strings basically strings probably,
and they were just flying out into the crowd, dressed
in kind of bondage gear as they would and and
(04:09):
sort of getting kind of and some were attached like
to this skin through Like yeah, it was quite full.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
On any plans for that for the Black Seeds.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Through the skin through the skin like like hooks, hooks
through the skin and they were they were being flowing out.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Wow, the whole the whole game.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I love dediction. I mean that would have been that
sounds amazing, But for the seeds probably not. I get
a bit nerdy when I go to gigs and see
how they're rigged up and there's you know, all the
lighting gets rigged up by rigas who do EBB sailing.
Usually I sort of check out that. But for the seeds, no,
(04:54):
I mean going back to when I was like eight,
my parents took me to see Lionel Richie and he
had that song dancing on the ceiling and then half
of the half of the people that were playing on
stage actually got pulled up on wires like that. Wow,
at the end of the concert. Ye, it was quite
Where did you see Lionel Richard Western Springs?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it at Lionel's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Linel was just like Lionel loomed large. That would have
been like eighty five eighty six seven vibe man, he
loomed large of over nineteen eighty five eighty six and
he's on the other world at the time as well.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Just after that, I mean, he put the whole thing together,
didn't he. Lionel Basically yeah, Lionel, Lionel. We interviewed Lionel
the while back, and he is one of the nicest
most charming people you'll ever meet in your entire He's
one of the you know what, the with the list
of kind of celebrities that you meet, the real top
(05:54):
of the top, like the linel riches of the world,
the nicest people there's They are always like the a
as are always the nicest, most charming, like ridiculous people
you've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And they just have a gift. They'll remember your name.
They'll call you your name during the interview in order
like you're sort of overwhelmed, you know, is your name,
and seems to keep remembering it the whole time during
the interview. And then I find that it's not kind
of the case with everybody, but but guys like him,
you're like, oh man, you've.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Got the gift, like thet Now I want to know
who was the worst? Can you say?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, no, I'll openly say I think it's I think
it's fair. Remember j Barker really exactly, he's on flight of.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The concourse the flat mate, I think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well here that here the bandana, and he was like
the American.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I think he's Canadian, but yeah, you're very nice.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Such a dick, such a dick. And it was like
what is up with that guy? He turned up? He
turned up just like you did today, Danny, exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And repelled into the building and was.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Here to promote something like he was wanting to sell
tickets to a show, and just kind of acted like,
I don't know, like he just did not want to
be here at all, and was a real we're just asking,
just trying to have a chat like we're having now,
and he just shut everything down, like completely shut everything.
(07:37):
Was like, oh, you're coming here to promote your thing.
We don't really care that much about ash, Like, I
don't really care that much about chat, always happy to chalk,
and he was like, man, it was weird. And then
afterwards we chatted to a couple of the other comedians
who have dealt with him that you know, that's just
something he just hates. He just a bit of an ahole.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You probably, I guess exactly what. You must have met
some pretty big musicians touring over the years.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I got a good one. Yeah. We were in Switzerland.
We did this festival and Smashing Punkins were playing, and
then their room actually ended up being right next to ours,
and we finished the gig early, did the rounds, checking
out the festival, came back. I was a few drinks down,
(08:27):
so I was I was wanting, yeah, confident, so confident.
His bodyguard was really into the Warriors and we were
chatting about that. A bodyguard, yeah, two of them, the
one New Zealand Warriors. Yeah yeah. He was a multifiler.
(08:49):
So we were chatting, rocking, see you later, and and
then I peered through the door and then there's Billy
Corgan there just having a nap and and I just kind.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of rocked and I think I woke him up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, I said hey, hey, hey, Billy, and he
got up and was like, well he man. I said, oh,
I'm Daniel from the Black Seas. You know, really fast.
We just played a girl. I've just got the room
next year. I just wanted to say I just love
the first two albums, just that too long ago.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
A lot.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Just made one album.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You need to do a double seed.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Who knows what we're happening if I told him that.
But he was great. He was like, you know, he
had a bit of a chair, but he remembered. He said,
oh New Zealand, I haven't been back there since the
big day out. He never invaded us back and I
was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I think they would have invited you. I think they
would have invited like that open to inviting. I'm sure
this Mampkins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Sure that he was great. And then bodyguards came in.
There was a there was a German bodyguard with the
multi feller and I just felt this huge hand just
grabbed my arm, and I was like, oh, okay, because
I just wanted in there. They had done their job,
they hadn't done their job, and so they've probably been embarrassed.
And I just kind of looked at Billy, and Billy
was like, yeah, that's okay, that's okay, and he said, oh,
(10:19):
I guess this is where we do bones. And we
did bones and I said thank you, and that was that.
I see you later. He was really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Billy Corgan asleep asleep. He probably he probably thought when
you woke him that you were coming from.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I was pretty relaxed. But he was the older version
of Billy Corgan where he's got the whole black attire
and but it's a bit overweight. He's got the pot
belly and and that sort of hanging out underneath his
T shirt and but he was a lovely guy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It was a.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Sleep sharing me Wells and the Nice Stuart. Find them
on Instagram at Hodarchy Breakfast. Jerry and and I are
joined the Conflict the Hodaki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
More What's happening with Symphony? So you guys are a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean we're playing at the show. When it
first got announced to us, we thought that we were
going to be playing with the symphony, which I thought, Wow,
that's that's quite a big task to do. But we're not.
We're just coming to play our tunes, which I think
is great. And it's an early show, and you know,
I'm from Auckland, so I'm playing in the hometown show
(11:32):
like that, and that's going to be our last show
of our summer stuint so it's going to be great.
Going to take my son and my mum along and
they're going to love that. And yeah, just really looking
forward to playing some new tunes and some old classics.
And it's a it's only going to be like fifty minutes,
so that's an easy job for us.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Right, how many songs you get away in fifty minutes?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fifty minutes? Maybe maybe ten instrumental really long long one
So have you guys been in the studio recording anything
new at the moment. Yeah, we released a song late
last year, this track called Compassion, and now we're just
working on well, it's pretty much finished this new track,
(12:16):
eight bit it's called and so that's going to be
released god, probably in the next three weeks, so you
hear about that. And then we've got a whole lot
of demos. You know, we live all over the country.
It's really hard to get us all together in one room.
So over the last couple of years we've got together
down at Wellington and recorded a whole lot of tracks
(12:37):
and yeah, we just need to get some vocals and
more overdubs over them. But we're pretty excited about it,
you know. So we're excited about that for the for
the coming rest of the year, we'll release singles along
the way and then and then we've got Canada coming
up in June, which is exciting based around this victorious
(12:58):
scar festival, and so it'd be great to get back
to Canada.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is it a bit more like you mentioned releasing the singles?
Is it more of these days about just once you've
got a song, put it out rather than compiling an
album because it's all online, right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, man, it's a funny one day. When we started,
you know, you know we've been going, what is it
twenty seven years now? We started, you know, it was
it was album based. Yeah, we didn't have Spotify, we
didn't have the streaming services. So that's what we're focused on.
And then now recently we dis made that decision like, yeah,
let's just release the singles. It's release tracks and yeah,
(13:35):
and rather.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Than waiting to have a random number.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The whole package, yeah, which I think is healthy and
keeps us motivated to finish the bloody other And I.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Feel like you guys do a lot of overseas touring
in the past.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You have, Yeah, Jeremy is the type of it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is it because of the genre of music that you're
playing that it's got an international appeal? Is that what's
going on? Because I mean not there's not a huge
amount of New Zealand groups that are doing a whole
lot of international.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think it's all the work that we did over
the years, going back to like the just after the
first album, keep on pushing, Well, actually that was after
on the Sun and then we started to go to
England and I think we were going a lot twice
a year Europe and the States and just putting in
that groundwork has put our name out there on the
(14:26):
international circuit. So it's great to be us back. You know,
we possibly go back to Europe next year. So yeah,
it's all that sort of work really. I mean bands
these days who are starting, I think you've just you know,
we get into complete debt from going overseas, but you've
got to get out there. And because releasing a song
(14:49):
is really not going to people are going to play it,
but they're not going to it's seen you live, which
is where they get convinced and being present out there,
going out speaking to media out there. So yeah, I
think it's all that, all that work that we've done
in the past. Really, I think it puts down to
that and doing good shows over there.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And well, where are some of the countries that you've
been you mentioned in UK we're about. Is Germany a
big one for you guys?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Germany is great for us.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, they love reggae and stuff in Germany they do.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, it always. Ah, I think there's there's I don't know,
in a lot of countries they love reggae music, reggae
dub music.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I just don't associate Germany with you know what I mean,
been produced as Germans. You probably hadn't this, but I
just assoc yeah, David. But then they've also got just
a massive low on a Fat Freddy's tour a lot
over there, seed, I think that's a German reggae band.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
They French or yeah, maybe French, European European, yes.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
With about five hundred people in the band. But yeah,
so I don't know what it is about Europe. They
just just love it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean, and like I said, we just got
to get out there and play to them, and we're
really grateful to get back to Canada. There's a there's
a massive scene there as well, you know, I mean
regae is I think you know, Bob Marley did the work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You should always think.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so you guys are all living in different places
and that must be cool as well, because you're if
you're not seeing each other a whole lot, and then
all of a sudden you get together back to tour
and go overseas again. Yeah, that must be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It is. I mean, it's an amazing bunch of guys.
Is eight of us. I mean, if we're around each other,
I would think that we would still have great relationships.
But I mean when we get back together, it's it's
it's like getting back with old mates. It's just hanging
out and doing a doing a great job. And it's
and it's the same in the student radio. Yeah, I'm
(17:03):
very grateful.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Does it take much practice or rehearsal at this point
or could you guys just walk into a room and just.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Wow, that's a funny one. I know, we've been put
into this situation where we can't rehearse all the time.
So it's like everybody rehearse at home and but and
then you know, the set list will get changed to
what what do we really know? But we've been doing
it for so long the way that if we do
add something, and we'll try and do it at sound check, right, yeah,
(17:33):
and if it works there, then okay, let's keep going.
And you know, a lot of eye contact, a lot
of you come on, here's the change, So.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
MOR's coming up.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So I think it makes me a better musician, just
been that intensity on stage that's you know, to make
it right, Yeah, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it's all happening Aukland Domain, Minucua Feel Symphony Saturday.
That's not the said day, but the following Saturday, the
twenty first of March. There's still some tickets available. It's
always massive, it's always a good vibe and popular. Obviously
you've got the Black Seeds, shape Shift Exponents, nice and
shape Shifting, Faithless.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Sagada, Kay Bell Bellia going on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's a it's a fantastic event, Daniel, thank you so
much for coming in. Jeez, guys, lovely to see you
and and best of luck with the gigs.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, thank you very much. Keep out the great work guys.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Radio heard Aches off.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
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Speaker 1 (18:36):
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