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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio Hodar Keys Off the Record podcast with
Angeline M. Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All Right, in the studio, I'm blimin Stoke to have
Pet Brown, otherwise known as Lady Hawk to you fellas,
doing the Other's Way Festival at the end of November,
all along the glorious kutung Ah happy road. Now, how
do you like to be addressed? Pep, Lady Hawk? What
do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh, you can call me.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Pet cheers all right, first time vases already. So you've
been celebrating fifteen years since the release of your debut
album that was massive. It cleaned up at the two
thousand and nine musical was it? Was it two thousand
and nine?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's a blur. I've got them all. I've just been
building my studio at my place in westok clumb and
they're all in a box. Wow, I'm going to be
getting them out and actually like proudly displaying them. Finally,
stories for so long.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So you are going to be playing your glorious debut
album and its entirety at the Other's Way Festival, right, yep,
that's correct. Yeah, because i'd seen that you've done it
in Aussie and I was thinking, are we going to
ge to turn what's going on? So how's it been?
Revisiting that?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's been awesome actually, and I really like playing it
in the correct order as well that it's on the album,
because you know, historically I've always left my delirium till
the very end of my set. But it's third on
the record, so I sort of get that out of
the way really fast.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm trying to remember the order. Is it Magic?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That Magic is the first one?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah? Such a great album.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah. I always thought that was like that one was
distant to open the record.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, because it's just so triumphant and big and yeah.
Do you remember where your mindset was when you were
doing that album?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
God, it was all over the place really, Because I
started the record. I started writing it in Australia. So
the first of a song I wrote was back of
the Van, right. I wrote that in Australia, and then
I ended up I had a bunch of other demos
that I'd done and they never made it onto the album.
And then I moved over to London sort of beginning
of two thousand and seven. So it was quite crazy
(01:59):
the way things will happen. And it's a lot different.
It was a lot different back then to what it
is now. Like, yeah, there was a lot of craziness
with record labels and you know people sort of like
bidding wars almost, you know, like yes, that sort of
those days.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And well pre Spotify, isn't that weird?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, so I basically blew up. I was actually just
talking to my manager about this. I blew up on
blogs and MySpace like that was literally how the hype
got out about me was by I had a MySpace
page and I put up my demos and then I
was just back then, blogs were the thing, so like
there'd be all these really cool indie music blogs and
(02:36):
if you got on the cool indie music blog, then
that was it. You were like you were set, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So that was a real word amount thing as opposed
to algorithms. And yeah, yeah, MySpace was what. That's how
the Actic Monkeys got to number one, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was It was a cool platform back then. It
was a really cool way because you could also you
could also like use code and make your page look
however you wanted, and that was that was my Space
literally taught me her code. I can't remember now, but
back then I thought I was quite cool because I
knew how to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We're going to play let's go back to that tune Magic,
because we're going to play three for twelve o'clock Rock today.
Tell me a little bit about that song for you.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So Magic's always been my favorite track off my album,
my first album, because that was when I It was
one of the early ones I did in London, but
I worked with a really awesome Belgian producer called Pascal Gabriel.
We'd sort of been writing together quite a bit and
that song was just me and him in a room,
(03:34):
and that's when I really felt like I fell into
the groove of the record. Like that song for me
embodies the entire album. Like that's when I knew what
the album was going to be. Like I was like, Yep,
this album is gonna this is the vibe, this is
gonna set the tone for the whole record. So that's
quite a special special song for me, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
They's still it the first of three for twelve o'clock
rock yupna of a debut album, Lady Hook and Magic.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Mean for You wa I Fell with Me? And Aleasure
(04:21):
Wan Journey for You, wa I Fell with me.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Lady Hawk's Magic on Hodaki, the opening track to her
debut album fifteen years ago. It was released with Lady
Hawk right now talking we were going MySpace before. How
has the music world changed or have you? Do you
write differently since we're in a bran new world of
Spotify and streaming.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It hasn't changed how I write, but it's changed how
I look at making money because you can't make money
off streaming.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It just you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's like even you know who was like bit Middler
for example, posted her year's earnings from wind Beneath My
Wings on Spotify. It was like three bucks or something.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's insane, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Like, you just can't make money off Spotify, so you
have to look at other ways. You have to think, oh, well,
I you know, fans want to see the lot, you know,
that's one thing that hasn't although we are in a
cost of living crisis, so people are struggling to buy tickets,
which is why so many fits festivals are canceling. But right, yeah,
but yeah, live shows is a way to make money
(05:26):
merch as well. That's a really good way for fans
to support their favorite band or artist. Yeah, so you
really do have to look at it differently, and you're going.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
To make sure that your brand looks choice on merge.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, because this was stuff we didn't really have
to think about back in the day, you know, back
only a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
All right, onto song number two, the twelve o'clock Rock.
Tell me about this next one.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So Guilty Love I wrote with my friend Georgia, not
from Brutes Choice, Yeah, yeah, And we got together in
LA and worked with my friend Tommy, who produced my
Wild Things record. So we sort of we both knew Tommy,
(06:06):
we're both friends, but me and Georgia had never actually
met at this point. So we got together and we'd
sort of always been talking about doing music together but
we never actually met. And we were working on some
songs for time Flies, which is the last record that
came out, and me and Georgia just headed off and
we started talking about our sort of upbringings and going
to Catholic school and yes, hands up over here, yeah,
(06:29):
and that sort of we both had different ways that
the shame was put on us, like me for my
journey with my sexuality and and Georgia was just figuring
out who she was as a woman and we really
bonded over it, and that's how that song came about.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I love that awesome insight into that turn. So here
we go Lady Hook tune number two for twelve o'clock
rock Guilty Love on herd Agi.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Think I had a hangover from Once of the Wine,
stills on the Feelings on money Sidside, Who's the fouls
of this from me? And every time I pray, I
just pread of a free, prayed of the free, every
(07:29):
time I pray, I just prayed of a free.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Last Lady Hawk's My Deliri on Hodaki with Angie from
her debut album which blew up and won all the
New Zealand musicords pretty much in two thousand and nine,
celebrating fifteen years at Lady Hawk's with me playing that
(08:09):
album from start to finish at the Other's Way Festival
going down on the thirtieth of November. Tickets through mosh
Teks Lady Hawk, Pep, I'm interested to know. Are you
more of a fan of playing festivals You've got a
bunch coming up or solo shows?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Both have their pros and cons, Like I love a
festival for how in and out it is, you know,
you turn up, you play your set, You have an
allocated set time, you play it, and then.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That's it, and then you're out of there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You're out of there. Yeah, and then your own shows.
It's cool because people have like bought tickets specifically to
see you, and you feel that side of it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I guess would you say to festival is easy to
do the set list because you're playing a bunch of
Oh you got a shorter time slot, obviously, see play
all the songs that everyone knows exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah. I always curate, like I have specific set set
lists for certain gigs, you know what I mean. I mean,
so for festivals, I always have my like list of bangers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That this festival, the other's way one coming up? Are
you going to be jumping out and catching any other artists?
Do you get time to do that?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I will for this, Yeah, because I live in Auckland,
so that's handy.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Tickets by Moss checks for that one. Now I do
know that you're working on some other material.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Too, Yes, Yeah, I'm currently sort of in the middle
of a fifth record that's hopefully going to be ready
next year, not early next year, more like later.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What's what's the process for writing a new record. Is
that kind of you hunkering away or are you listening
to certain types of music or where are you getting
get inspo from.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I get really inspired by film, like by watching movies
and like hearing the soundtracks to movies. But I've also
been listening to a lot of I don like daft
punk lately, and a lot of like justice and dance
music that that kind of I was obsessed with back
in like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
Like that's really come back into my brain. So I
(09:58):
think my next record's going to be pretty dance Hebbie Crovya.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Thank you very much, Lady Hawk for coming to visit
us today. As I said before, if you want tickets
to the Othersway Festival, you're heading to mosh Teks for
all the other festivals and the shows you're doing over summer,
would you say your socials?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yep? Go to my social media so Facebook or Instagram?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, easy as Thanks so much and hopefully we'll spoit
you son.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
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Speaker 5 (10:30):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
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