December 9, 2025 • 24 mins
Push Push are touring the North Island in February, their enigmatic and heroic frontman Mikey Havoc popped in for a chat about the songs that people still tell him they love from A Trillion Shades Of Happy, and the new music they'll be releasing in 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Radio Hodokis Off the Record podcast with Jeremy
Wells and the nice Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh yeah, no, word of a lot, no word of
a life.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Four hit people came up beating Metallica.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
So this is the favorite.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Excuse your song given.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
That's the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Maybe that sounds which starts the pod.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're part of.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I thought we're pre potting.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
We're in no pre pod. We're going raw.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, this is the podcast Wednesday, the third of December
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Mike Havoc joins us on the podcast here as well.
It's nice to have you on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
We just having to chat to you on the radio
about what's happening next year.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Are you and your.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Friends from Push Push getting to get the full shows
aucklandra Hamilton and the Mount as well four days in
a row.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We I mean, I guess we'd like to do we'd
like to do more dates, but we can't because, like
like I mentioned on the radio earlier, the to the
tarifsle of over in Australia. So we maybe trying. We're
maybe going to try and squeeze one or two more
shows if we can, and then we've got one booked
in August and christ Church did you think maybe I'm
not supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I think in nineteen ninety five or nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Six, did you think did you think that you'd be
doing shows worth well?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
By that stage the band had broken up?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wow? Because yeah, So it was.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Like nineteen ninety one as when the album came out,
So nineteen I think nineteen ninety was maybe ninety was
when the out came out, But nineteen ninety one, ninety one,
ninety ninety ninety ones were Dripple came out. Yeah, yes,
the ninety ones, when Tripple came out, album came out
ninety two, and then we probably toured for two or
three years maybe on that, and then yeah, sort of.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That was there was enough.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We had a little bit of a bit of a
sort of unceremoneous split, yep. And yeah, young men, young men,
different different passions, you know, up and and we were
in separate ways there and then sort of at one
stage we all hadn't been in the plameing room together
for twenty years really, yeah, and then like yeah we've
been Yeah, two of us or three of us are,
(02:13):
but there all five of us back together in one
room for twenty years. Was was pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What was what was that like.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A little bit, But then once once it sort of happened,
a lot of it was like, you know, it's time
to get over all this any issues, you know, that
was well and truly past. And then and then it
was sort of like, within like five minutes, it was
just it was like being sixteen again. So it was like, yeah,
we're all I'm giving each other about not bringing oh yeah,
didn't bring your leading in, you brought the wrong sim
stand or whatever, you know, teaching each other way. And
(02:45):
then you'd be playing some songs that we were playing.
You would one that I thought I'd know the words,
so I'd mess them up, and then one that were
I completely had no idea where what was happening In
the next five seconds, it was just a lot come
to you, you know. The Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
What What what's it like being on tour for three
years of the you know, not only just the same duds,
but just being on tour in general.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, I mean always say on tour that was basically
New Zealand, lots of New Zealand, and then quite intense
three and a half months in Australia.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, but and that sounds like you're in your early twenties.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That was awesome. You just I wouldn't change it for
a second.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was and you know, we had we were lucky
enough to be doing it at a time when when
people were really starting to really appreciate local music.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And and and you know, they you put on a
big live show, they really appreciate it, and people bought
taking some people people came along, and people bought the
records and it was it was cool.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They never made a dollar out of it, but but
we got to do that for that that time, you know,
and we were in Australia, it was like, you know,
went and lived over there, sort of checked into some accommodation.
And then at one stage when Sydney, we're doing sometimes
like six shows a week, and some of those some
nights was three nights of three shows a night.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, and Sydney in something you do like a you
do like a sort of suburban early evening show in Sydney.
Then you do one right in the middle of Siting
and then another on the other side of Sydney.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, work across.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we don't lug, you know,
like it was all we're like, you know, we're quote,
but that's say we sort of charted over in Australia.
That states that's why we went over there, and people
saw that we had a reputation that it was cool
and it was yeah, and you never make you got
sort of your perdiums.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, yeah, straight across the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I imagine, well, yeah, well just just to feed yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Of course, I can imagine.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I can imagine you as a young man trembling around Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Waters and there's.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No big water padems, just stri all in one and
a privy e van, just like slogging it from place
to place. But it was cool, man, it was just
like yeah, at the time, it was just like that.
Such experiences.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I remember seeing you on Hey, hey it's Saturday. This
is before, this is before I met you. And I
remember seeing on three forty five Live. It's the first
time I oversaw you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Firstly, I remember seeing the song immediately the first time
I heard Trip and I went, wow, that's a cool song.
I would have been fourteen and I heard it and
I was like, that's a catchy.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
First time I heard it, it was like i'd heard
it before. I thought I've heard the song before, but
I hadn't.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's a catchy tune for you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And then I remember you on three forty five Live
and you're chatting to Ricky Morris and Camela Barfield and
and you sort of took over the show actually, like
I was like, Oh, this guy's this guy's great. It's
got real charisma. And then and then the next time
I saw you, I mean it was on three forty
five Live, not three for us.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hey hay its Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Hey hate Saturday. Yea Saday, first new yeald Man to
ever play live and ha hate Saturday.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And again you took over the show like you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I thought we were snotty little dicks actually because because
we had a bad sound chick. And then when we
came on and stroll with one of the guitars, and
I remember me, I didn't watch that for years afterwards
because I thought so bad. But then that was quite good.
I recommend everybody should watch it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I watched it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Molly Meldrum like the drummer, Oh really, I think part
of the reason we got on the show, Yeah, because
he said, I reckon, I reckon, They're the next day
c DC. I thought there was probably a.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Little bit, you know, it's high expectations.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well and it's selling us a little bit much. We're good, but.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm sure being answers so many times, how did you guys? Mate?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't know at school, it's cool. Started out at
school and was just can't come but.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
No, sorry you and Jerry, me and Jared.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He was doing news on BF my breakfas right, that's right,
he's a capable broadcaster, I thought, because.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He's a capable broadcaster.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, well we were talking about that.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That was the reason Jerry and never ended up getting
his degree because he got the job reading to the.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Road under that day.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We have conversations and then and then from there and
then that was the end of it. Recently, isn't a
nice and romantic that I took it to the rotunder
for that conversation.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I still walk past whenever I see that rotunda. I
do think of that conversation and I remember it like
it was yesterday. But we recently tried to what do
you think let's go to the rotunda? Were on here?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I knew that something he had a real spring and
a step and I knew that I knew that something
was on. I definitely knew that something's on. But also
the way that it all happened with the head of
tv Z at the time, Neil roberts I mean, that
would never happen now, Like the idea of the head
of TV and Z just being out at a nightclub
on K Road on a Saturday or Friday night at
(07:41):
the staircase, partying away with Cali.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I was at Caliber a whole lot of other people.
It's like, that would never happen.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And when we did, when the Rotunda conversation happened, at
that stage, it was just going to be a one,
one hour, once a week show and then not maybe
a couple of weeks after that or maybe a month
after that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
This is the Havoc show we're talking about show.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was originally Space and then Neil Robertson was the
head of TV and C that we're talking about. He said, Okay, hey,
look here's what's going to happen. Five nights live. What
what you guys? You guys come to do five nights
a week live television.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But it was almost like it's almost easy suited to
doing that. Than then the hour.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think I think so at the time, Yeah, yeah,
I think I grew into the hour. But then but
that was that was so much fun with it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, then your turn.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
We turned up to TV and Z and then all
of a sudden there's a suit, you know, like an
actual sorry suit, a set and it's like and and
Mike's design or had a lot of to do with
how the set was and the meetings with like proper
set people now like, what do you want this?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It must I want a big chip.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Paddling pulled as half full of water, which is something
that something that we carried on for quite a minute,
quite a lot many years. It's just asking for dumb
ship to see if they do it.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
They just I want to bar over on this corner.
I want trinkets over here. I wanted to look like
kind of a retro sort of lounge. And then all
of a sudden it came back and we walked into
the CEO one that there it is, here's all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
After every show, someone's out the pedaling. We want to,
we want to, we want to, we want We're going
to get bloody. What's your name? Renaen on. We had
Rena Rowan on and we decided to concurse some eggs
and that and little smugg lars. What about when we
(09:44):
trashed the set when we played Killing the Name of
We actually just thought it was a good idea to
trust the set while the song was being played. So
we're playing the video for at the end of the
and then you guys should trash the set, Okay the
producer said that, yeah, so we doing it, Like what
do you doing like? And then we started like he
didn't you throw a couch at me or something? And
(10:05):
then I did a massive, big which I can't believe.
I'm breaking my collar bone or something driving at the end,
and you remember looking your eyes that you're so terrified
that as I was falling down on top of you,
just for the fixt and then the next next came
back the next day.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
SIT's all rebuilt, but apparently not happen and people know
happy about it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
There's a few people that were not happy about that.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And on the first night, I think for our show,
I think we had we play Bill Rolston and angel
Field maybe Pam.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Corkrey or something, and they painted cups and stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And then and so Darcy Darcy Clay thought it would
be a good idea to smoke wheed and the Tevans
he courtyd well.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We were used to being at beefing with people doing
that all the time.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Nobody give a ship and then all of a sudden
Tevans and security are involved.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's in the paper.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It was like it was the first night on here
and we got some dude who's smoking weed and the TVNZ.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Which I largely thought the time, was that's not thoughtful
that he went outside the smoking.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, very considerate. And you're still getting done.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And the weird thing is now I'm in the same
bloody studio, sitting in the same spot, in that tiny
little one a studio, facing the same way.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's quite it's quite weird, and you're looking at the
same background. It's exactly the same. It's it's a weird time.
That's so weird, same as it wasn't nineteen ninety seven.
It's quite strange.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Are you're saying it used to be like a massive
like props department, wardrobe department. You guys would have a
credit card, you were allowed to use it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, I remember, you know, he got too many details.
I suppose you can how you now, well you.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Can say, well, you know, I remember Mike moved house
once and he borrowed a TVNS event and those days
you just sign it off. So you turn up and
there they had vans, trucks, all sorts of stuff. Mike
stayed in tvN's event. I remember about two weeks like,
have you still got that van?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He's like yeah, no, no, no, the van I borrowed once.
But then it was the car that I borrowed overcrowded
on Christmas Eve and then everyone's wanting to go home,
and so I like to sign the thing and I
had it for a month.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Supposed to have like a day.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Check because they're this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You had the phone, you use the phone. You spent
an awful amount of money on the phone.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
This is this is a recurring theme in Jury's life.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
He's done that here. It is in there as well.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
We got very told off about it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm on the top three list of this.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Disc at tv A lady friend three or four hours
at a time.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
But in those days, as why, they had a tv
Z props department and a costume department, and so you
could go and just high. If you wanted to go
out for the weekend to a fancy drisk, go down
and get some period costume from.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Because fist scene. Yes, costume fans might be familiar with
that first scene was like just nextdoor and connected to TV.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, it was owned by ye.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So if we had to, if we wanted to, if
we were doing period flo when we dressed up as.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Did the period it was because Mike does very well
as Captain Baines any any kind of quite.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well as a well to do rich gentlemen as well.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
If it was a person that if there was a
period where were Mike really should be should be sort
of in the eighteen eighteen twenties, not in order to.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Was us what a bad great well done?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Boys weren't either from New.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Zealand and there where am Because you're very.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Impressed for the boys.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You reckon? They're going to be super big? Well, I
think that they're one of the most exciting bods ive
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Since a CDC times.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, well that's something. Hello, Yes, it's Mike up in audio.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yes, we didn't quite get the mic on the drums.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Could the boys do the thing again. They can't do
another again.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Right, So when push Push play again next year beforehand,
because you've got to get bad members across from Australia
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Are you guys getting together? You going to do any.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Rehearsals or rehearsal last night? And because there's a very
good friend of who say hello to you, sharn' sh Garborough.
That's one Scarborough who was a genius guitarist, absolutely one
of the most lovely guys that LI ever meet, incredibly
talented and fills in and plays. The other two will
(14:38):
be playing. He's basically stunt guitarists. So we can practice
and get ourselves up to speed and and then get
a set together if every want to play it, and
then the other guys can come over and sort of
like just like a week or two before and we
can just do a quick little intensive yeah okay, just
really call it. Sharn wasn't here, we can do it right, Okay?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah, Well you wouldn't want to get I mean, so
as I said before, you're doing back to back to
back to back, you're going to bender method four days.
You wouldn't want to get together too close to that
because but a first night fever and then you have
a bly out on the first couple of nights. Now
you're going into the first gig on the back foot,
or is that what you want?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, because because it's quite quite satisfying to sort of
get it right. And I think especially because the last
last time we played was with The Darkness, who are
a great man but we're we're going to cut us
off in the middle of tripping and we played at
the power Station. Luckily the promoter said don't do that.
It's the numb one song. Don't do that, and that
(15:36):
it was going to be the first of the three
nights we played with them as well, and and they
gave us like about a I mean, I'm not maybe
they had good reasons for it. They're not here to
defeed themselves, but they gave um maybe a meta of
space at the front of the stage, which I'm a
bigger man, and it's like it's that's that wasn't any
good at all, and say that was a bit ship
And so this time it's it's our shows. So at
(15:58):
rest there's ship. Then it's gonna be a nice and
it could be you know, it could be the last
time we get to play together. Yeah, you know, for
whatever reasons, we've got families all but you know, we're
all live at the stage, the older men again like
I say, but but you know, it's like so. And
also the standard at the moment of New Zealand bands
that are playing, especially older bands have got back together,
(16:18):
is really really good. And we're very aware that, you know,
we're not going to be doing a two and a
half hour super groove thunderfest at the town Hall like
they did with massive all sorts of guests and everything
like that, which I thought so on a Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They did that too.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It was really impressive. But but but we are going
to try and make sure that it's memorable because how
our shows were memorable. Yeah, we did them, so I
think I think that's that's really part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Are you do you have an open any bands playing
with you? We do?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I assume we do. I'm not sure. That's sort of
part of the promoter's thing. And I will be on
a call with them today to try and find that out.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Right, and I will let you know updated believe that's right. Yeah,
are you and are you in charge? Are you the
you the are you the leader that I've never thought
about this question before that I've never I we don't
really have it in charge, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Because normally got one one person that's in charge.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What we do, what we have have and in the
past I've been sort of the one who really is
out there sort of selling, selling, selling the band, I guess,
being the face of it. But but it's been really
nice and nice to do that time rounds, I think.
So we're sort of sharing those those roles as best
we can. Yeah, like and and the other guys enjoy
(17:34):
doing it as well. So that's that's cool. You know how,
the pipes the best I've ever been.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Have no idea that here's is it the healthy life
style you've been living.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
For I think it's early nights, early nights and just
steering away anything. Yeah, so yeah, So my voice has
been a never and my ears I have. I told
us so about a year ago. I got my hearing
check properly at like a proper ring. We were an
hour and a half bloody hearing your technology, buddy thing
(18:08):
you digger.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
ERUs jerious crowd.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
The man I've got. Apparently my ear is as good
as a.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Twenty one year old what woman?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I can show that. I can.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I can show a twenty one year old woman really.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Old boy man, I suppose a twenty one year old youngster.
But yeah, but isn't that out of it? Like that
makes no sense at all.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
You spent your whole life in headphones and loud environment.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I've been in hey, middle bands and dance music at
nightclubs and then when you know how loud, I had
my headphones on it doing the radio. Yeah loudy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
These Roberts jeans are good jeans.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, I just I don't know what I think. Maybe
I've got my theories about why that is, but I
don't care. It's weird as well.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Actually, I think I might not know share the theory
because I think it's quite an interesting theory.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
If you listen to if you.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What you what the noise the you know, if you're
listening to like any other muscle, like a one hundred
p scent wrong on this because I'm trying to figure
out why it would be though.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That doesn't make sense, and and and so I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Figure if you're listening to it, then you're using it,
you know, And then right, so it's like if there's
a say there's a drill or a band saw. Yeah,
I'm very well, I'll just get this.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Get out of it, you know, Yeah, you're blocking it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, well I just I just be around it. I
just I just get away from it. And or just
but it's still drums.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, no headphone.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I mean the fact that you know, for most of
your life you've been well, it's in your out of life.
You've been wearing headphones.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's like my proclimate. And you crank up your bloody headphones,
get it. And so so I guess with the voice,
it's the voice. Just I'm a lot less worried about
I used to be really worried about it, right, it
used to be really the song. And now it's just
(19:59):
like the less the less I think about it, then
the better it.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Is sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I've joined the choir that's helped the choir called
the Sting Choir, and and there's nice of us and
we get together in the church hall every Monday night.
That's what I do on Monday nights now church go
to the church hall and pression in church hall with
ninety people and we sing Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, Queens of
(20:25):
Stone Age, Black Sabbath. That's so good with us, cool man, anybody,
anybody can join the reckon.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
They reckon the choir.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Singing in a choir one of the best things you
can ever do for yourself, for your brain.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Do you know one thing I think about. I think
it's that I've really noticed. It's something, you know, how
we are told that we are all. Yeah, we've all
got lots of friends, and we are involved in so
many different communities online and stuff I don't know, doesn't
mean you just mean online he's looking at and it's
and it's a real community thing because you sort of go,
you're sort of of you. It's ninety people mostly most
(21:03):
of you've got no idea, most of you wouldn't walk
up and to normally, but then you're there and you're
so so you do. And so if you meet older people,
you know, yeah, straight to people, less straight people, or
just the whole the whole community of people you know
and you. But you're all getting on that when we
did that show a couple of weeks ago. You know,
we're all sort of focused on the same thing. We're
all got the same yeah, goo good.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Luck, everyone swimming in the same direction.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, But it's something I realized doing that that that's
something that's like maybe twenty years ago. I suppose that's
something that one and three of your friends would be doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but now I don't know anyone else.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's really missing.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's weird and it's and it's I think it's bad.
I think it's bad. That's missing.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, I think it's better in like rural communities, you know,
you're always looking for those opportunity it's way easier to
get together.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
But certainly in the cities, you sit down, you're on your.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Screen, you're in all.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
These great things are happening. You well, I'll be cooling,
and you know that happens. You completely miss it. Yeah,
that thinks really weird.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That's a big thing of church, I think was it
was it was a number of things for people. It
wasn't just about God. It was for some people was
it's just about the fact that they would meet people
who that se on a Sunday and they'd have a
bit of a chat.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
It's the yarn in the parking lot afterwards as much
as it is any and you.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Have to and you have to sort of you can't
just rock and you're going to get cut.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
The great move though whoever decided to bring music into
the church, because it's you know, it wasn't necessarily a
thing someone decided to do.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That good thing about it was seeing songs like you know,
like when I was doing I was thinking the solo
for war Pigs at the show we did, and it's
like I'm lying in bed, you know, my son sleep
next to me, and I'm trying to remember the lyrics
and the lyrics are not they're not nice lyrics like
poisoning the pretty much Mine morning. Yes, I got that
(22:52):
Politicians South then and watching like a bunch of like
like and you know, we've got, like I said, it's
quite a few older people in the choir, and that we're
all singing these these radio hit songs like the Panic
the Vomits or the one that the song off and
there's the beautiful bi of sopranos all go at the
end of go then go we hope you us so beautiful.
(23:18):
That sounds like that's very unchurched. It's quite unchurched. Yeah, yeah,
And I've only been since June July maybe, and it's
been going for ten years. It's called it It's t
I M m U in German it means something.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Studio germinal.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
T I in g.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
What does it mean?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Having about having a hand just a long just a
German hand.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's why we keep on hand. We just keep a
German on stuff. There's no other qualifications.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
German turns out to be useful.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, daily, Thanks.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
For coming in and and good luck with the shows.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm looking forward. I'll be coming along. Yep.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I'll be looking forward to seeing that. And I'm sure
lots of people will be super excited about that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Love it now, we're gonna be. We're gonna be. We're
gonna be doing some giveaways and stuff on Hurcy Hiary
the stations we Cobb station for it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, that's us.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Thank you very much for having me, Thanks coming always
always lovely to have you and and your best of
luck for everything.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Compliments of the Yull Tide.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh you merry Christmas Radio.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
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Wells and the nice Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh yeah, no, word of a lot, no word of
a life.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Four hit people came up beating Metallica.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
So this is the favorite.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Excuse your song given.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
That's the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Maybe that sounds which starts the pod.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're part of.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I thought we're pre potting.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
We're in no pre pod. We're going raw.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, this is the podcast Wednesday, the third of December
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Mike Havoc joins us on the podcast here as well.
It's nice to have you on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
We just having to chat to you on the radio
about what's happening next year.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Are you and your.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Friends from Push Push getting to get the full shows
aucklandra Hamilton and the Mount as well four days in
a row.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We I mean, I guess we'd like to do we'd
like to do more dates, but we can't because, like
like I mentioned on the radio earlier, the to the
tarifsle of over in Australia. So we maybe trying. We're
maybe going to try and squeeze one or two more
shows if we can, and then we've got one booked
in August and christ Church did you think maybe I'm
not supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I think in nineteen ninety five or nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Six, did you think did you think that you'd be
doing shows worth well?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
By that stage the band had broken up?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wow? Because yeah, So it was.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Like nineteen ninety one as when the album came out,
So nineteen I think nineteen ninety was maybe ninety was
when the out came out, But nineteen ninety one, ninety one,
ninety ninety ninety ones were Dripple came out. Yeah, yes,
the ninety ones, when Tripple came out, album came out
ninety two, and then we probably toured for two or
three years maybe on that, and then yeah, sort of.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That was there was enough.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We had a little bit of a bit of a
sort of unceremoneous split, yep. And yeah, young men, young men,
different different passions, you know, up and and we were
in separate ways there and then sort of at one
stage we all hadn't been in the plameing room together
for twenty years really, yeah, and then like yeah we've
been Yeah, two of us or three of us are,
(02:13):
but there all five of us back together in one
room for twenty years. Was was pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What was what was that like.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A little bit, But then once once it sort of happened,
a lot of it was like, you know, it's time
to get over all this any issues, you know, that
was well and truly past. And then and then it
was sort of like, within like five minutes, it was
just it was like being sixteen again. So it was like, yeah,
we're all I'm giving each other about not bringing oh yeah,
didn't bring your leading in, you brought the wrong sim
stand or whatever, you know, teaching each other way. And
(02:45):
then you'd be playing some songs that we were playing.
You would one that I thought I'd know the words,
so I'd mess them up, and then one that were
I completely had no idea where what was happening In
the next five seconds, it was just a lot come
to you, you know. The Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
What What what's it like being on tour for three
years of the you know, not only just the same duds,
but just being on tour in general.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, I mean always say on tour that was basically
New Zealand, lots of New Zealand, and then quite intense
three and a half months in Australia.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, but and that sounds like you're in your early twenties.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That was awesome. You just I wouldn't change it for
a second.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was and you know, we had we were lucky
enough to be doing it at a time when when
people were really starting to really appreciate local music.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And and and you know, they you put on a
big live show, they really appreciate it, and people bought
taking some people people came along, and people bought the
records and it was it was cool.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They never made a dollar out of it, but but
we got to do that for that that time, you know,
and we were in Australia, it was like, you know,
went and lived over there, sort of checked into some accommodation.
And then at one stage when Sydney, we're doing sometimes
like six shows a week, and some of those some
nights was three nights of three shows a night.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, and Sydney in something you do like a you
do like a sort of suburban early evening show in Sydney.
Then you do one right in the middle of Siting
and then another on the other side of Sydney.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, work across.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we don't lug, you know,
like it was all we're like, you know, we're quote,
but that's say we sort of charted over in Australia.
That states that's why we went over there, and people
saw that we had a reputation that it was cool
and it was yeah, and you never make you got
sort of your perdiums.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, yeah, straight across the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I imagine, well, yeah, well just just to feed yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Of course, I can imagine.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I can imagine you as a young man trembling around Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Waters and there's.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No big water padems, just stri all in one and
a privy e van, just like slogging it from place
to place. But it was cool, man, it was just
like yeah, at the time, it was just like that.
Such experiences.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I remember seeing you on Hey, hey it's Saturday. This
is before, this is before I met you. And I
remember seeing on three forty five Live. It's the first
time I oversaw you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Firstly, I remember seeing the song immediately the first time
I heard Trip and I went, wow, that's a cool song.
I would have been fourteen and I heard it and
I was like, that's a catchy.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
First time I heard it, it was like i'd heard
it before. I thought I've heard the song before, but
I hadn't.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's a catchy tune for you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And then I remember you on three forty five Live
and you're chatting to Ricky Morris and Camela Barfield and
and you sort of took over the show actually, like
I was like, Oh, this guy's this guy's great. It's
got real charisma. And then and then the next time
I saw you, I mean it was on three forty
five Live, not three for us.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hey hay its Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Hey hate Saturday. Yea Saday, first new yeald Man to
ever play live and ha hate Saturday.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And again you took over the show like you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I thought we were snotty little dicks actually because because
we had a bad sound chick. And then when we
came on and stroll with one of the guitars, and
I remember me, I didn't watch that for years afterwards
because I thought so bad. But then that was quite good.
I recommend everybody should watch it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I watched it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Molly Meldrum like the drummer, Oh really, I think part
of the reason we got on the show, Yeah, because
he said, I reckon, I reckon, They're the next day
c DC. I thought there was probably a.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Little bit, you know, it's high expectations.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well and it's selling us a little bit much. We're good, but.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm sure being answers so many times, how did you guys? Mate?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't know at school, it's cool. Started out at
school and was just can't come but.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
No, sorry you and Jerry, me and Jared.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He was doing news on BF my breakfas right, that's right,
he's a capable broadcaster, I thought, because.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He's a capable broadcaster.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, well we were talking about that.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That was the reason Jerry and never ended up getting
his degree because he got the job reading to the.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Road under that day.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We have conversations and then and then from there and
then that was the end of it. Recently, isn't a
nice and romantic that I took it to the rotunder
for that conversation.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I still walk past whenever I see that rotunda. I
do think of that conversation and I remember it like
it was yesterday. But we recently tried to what do
you think let's go to the rotunda? Were on here?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I knew that something he had a real spring and
a step and I knew that I knew that something
was on. I definitely knew that something's on. But also
the way that it all happened with the head of
tv Z at the time, Neil roberts I mean, that
would never happen now, Like the idea of the head
of TV and Z just being out at a nightclub
on K Road on a Saturday or Friday night at
(07:41):
the staircase, partying away with Cali.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I was at Caliber a whole lot of other people.
It's like, that would never happen.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And when we did, when the Rotunda conversation happened, at
that stage, it was just going to be a one,
one hour, once a week show and then not maybe
a couple of weeks after that or maybe a month
after that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
This is the Havoc show we're talking about show.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was originally Space and then Neil Robertson was the
head of TV and C that we're talking about. He said, Okay, hey,
look here's what's going to happen. Five nights live. What
what you guys? You guys come to do five nights
a week live television.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But it was almost like it's almost easy suited to
doing that. Than then the hour.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think I think so at the time, Yeah, yeah,
I think I grew into the hour. But then but
that was that was so much fun with it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, then your turn.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
We turned up to TV and Z and then all
of a sudden there's a suit, you know, like an
actual sorry suit, a set and it's like and and
Mike's design or had a lot of to do with
how the set was and the meetings with like proper
set people now like, what do you want this?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It must I want a big chip.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Paddling pulled as half full of water, which is something
that something that we carried on for quite a minute,
quite a lot many years. It's just asking for dumb
ship to see if they do it.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
They just I want to bar over on this corner.
I want trinkets over here. I wanted to look like
kind of a retro sort of lounge. And then all
of a sudden it came back and we walked into
the CEO one that there it is, here's all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
After every show, someone's out the pedaling. We want to,
we want to, we want to, we want We're going
to get bloody. What's your name? Renaen on. We had
Rena Rowan on and we decided to concurse some eggs
and that and little smugg lars. What about when we
(09:44):
trashed the set when we played Killing the Name of
We actually just thought it was a good idea to
trust the set while the song was being played. So
we're playing the video for at the end of the
and then you guys should trash the set, Okay the
producer said that, yeah, so we doing it, Like what
do you doing like? And then we started like he
didn't you throw a couch at me or something? And
(10:05):
then I did a massive, big which I can't believe.
I'm breaking my collar bone or something driving at the end,
and you remember looking your eyes that you're so terrified
that as I was falling down on top of you,
just for the fixt and then the next next came
back the next day.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
SIT's all rebuilt, but apparently not happen and people know
happy about it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
There's a few people that were not happy about that.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And on the first night, I think for our show,
I think we had we play Bill Rolston and angel
Field maybe Pam.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Corkrey or something, and they painted cups and stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And then and so Darcy Darcy Clay thought it would
be a good idea to smoke wheed and the Tevans
he courtyd well.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We were used to being at beefing with people doing
that all the time.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Nobody give a ship and then all of a sudden
Tevans and security are involved.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's in the paper.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It was like it was the first night on here
and we got some dude who's smoking weed and the TVNZ.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Which I largely thought the time, was that's not thoughtful
that he went outside the smoking.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, very considerate. And you're still getting done.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And the weird thing is now I'm in the same
bloody studio, sitting in the same spot, in that tiny
little one a studio, facing the same way.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's quite it's quite weird, and you're looking at the
same background. It's exactly the same. It's it's a weird time.
That's so weird, same as it wasn't nineteen ninety seven.
It's quite strange.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Are you're saying it used to be like a massive
like props department, wardrobe department. You guys would have a
credit card, you were allowed to use it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, I remember, you know, he got too many details.
I suppose you can how you now, well you.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Can say, well, you know, I remember Mike moved house
once and he borrowed a TVNS event and those days
you just sign it off. So you turn up and
there they had vans, trucks, all sorts of stuff. Mike
stayed in tvN's event. I remember about two weeks like,
have you still got that van?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He's like yeah, no, no, no, the van I borrowed once.
But then it was the car that I borrowed overcrowded
on Christmas Eve and then everyone's wanting to go home,
and so I like to sign the thing and I
had it for a month.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Supposed to have like a day.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Check because they're this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You had the phone, you use the phone. You spent
an awful amount of money on the phone.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
This is this is a recurring theme in Jury's life.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
He's done that here. It is in there as well.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
We got very told off about it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm on the top three list of this.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Disc at tv A lady friend three or four hours
at a time.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
But in those days, as why, they had a tv
Z props department and a costume department, and so you
could go and just high. If you wanted to go
out for the weekend to a fancy drisk, go down
and get some period costume from.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Because fist scene. Yes, costume fans might be familiar with
that first scene was like just nextdoor and connected to TV.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, it was owned by ye.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So if we had to, if we wanted to, if
we were doing period flo when we dressed up as.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Did the period it was because Mike does very well
as Captain Baines any any kind of quite.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well as a well to do rich gentlemen as well.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
If it was a person that if there was a
period where were Mike really should be should be sort
of in the eighteen eighteen twenties, not in order to.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Was us what a bad great well done?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Boys weren't either from New.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Zealand and there where am Because you're very.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Impressed for the boys.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You reckon? They're going to be super big? Well, I
think that they're one of the most exciting bods ive
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Since a CDC times.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, well that's something. Hello, Yes, it's Mike up in audio.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yes, we didn't quite get the mic on the drums.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Could the boys do the thing again. They can't do
another again.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Right, So when push Push play again next year beforehand,
because you've got to get bad members across from Australia
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Are you guys getting together? You going to do any.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Rehearsals or rehearsal last night? And because there's a very
good friend of who say hello to you, sharn' sh Garborough.
That's one Scarborough who was a genius guitarist, absolutely one
of the most lovely guys that LI ever meet, incredibly
talented and fills in and plays. The other two will
(14:38):
be playing. He's basically stunt guitarists. So we can practice
and get ourselves up to speed and and then get
a set together if every want to play it, and
then the other guys can come over and sort of
like just like a week or two before and we
can just do a quick little intensive yeah okay, just
really call it. Sharn wasn't here, we can do it right, Okay?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah, Well you wouldn't want to get I mean, so
as I said before, you're doing back to back to
back to back, you're going to bender method four days.
You wouldn't want to get together too close to that
because but a first night fever and then you have
a bly out on the first couple of nights. Now
you're going into the first gig on the back foot,
or is that what you want?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, because because it's quite quite satisfying to sort of
get it right. And I think especially because the last
last time we played was with The Darkness, who are
a great man but we're we're going to cut us
off in the middle of tripping and we played at
the power Station. Luckily the promoter said don't do that.
It's the numb one song. Don't do that, and that
(15:36):
it was going to be the first of the three
nights we played with them as well, and and they
gave us like about a I mean, I'm not maybe
they had good reasons for it. They're not here to
defeed themselves, but they gave um maybe a meta of
space at the front of the stage, which I'm a
bigger man, and it's like it's that's that wasn't any
good at all, and say that was a bit ship
And so this time it's it's our shows. So at
(15:58):
rest there's ship. Then it's gonna be a nice and
it could be you know, it could be the last
time we get to play together. Yeah, you know, for
whatever reasons, we've got families all but you know, we're
all live at the stage, the older men again like
I say, but but you know, it's like so. And
also the standard at the moment of New Zealand bands
that are playing, especially older bands have got back together,
(16:18):
is really really good. And we're very aware that, you know,
we're not going to be doing a two and a
half hour super groove thunderfest at the town Hall like
they did with massive all sorts of guests and everything
like that, which I thought so on a Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They did that too.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It was really impressive. But but but we are going
to try and make sure that it's memorable because how
our shows were memorable. Yeah, we did them, so I
think I think that's that's really part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Are you do you have an open any bands playing
with you? We do?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I assume we do. I'm not sure. That's sort of
part of the promoter's thing. And I will be on
a call with them today to try and find that out.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Right, and I will let you know updated believe that's right. Yeah,
are you and are you in charge? Are you the
you the are you the leader that I've never thought
about this question before that I've never I we don't
really have it in charge, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Because normally got one one person that's in charge.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What we do, what we have have and in the
past I've been sort of the one who really is
out there sort of selling, selling, selling the band, I guess,
being the face of it. But but it's been really
nice and nice to do that time rounds, I think.
So we're sort of sharing those those roles as best
we can. Yeah, like and and the other guys enjoy
(17:34):
doing it as well. So that's that's cool. You know how,
the pipes the best I've ever been.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Have no idea that here's is it the healthy life
style you've been living.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
For I think it's early nights, early nights and just
steering away anything. Yeah, so yeah, So my voice has
been a never and my ears I have. I told
us so about a year ago. I got my hearing
check properly at like a proper ring. We were an
hour and a half bloody hearing your technology, buddy thing
(18:08):
you digger.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
ERUs jerious crowd.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
The man I've got. Apparently my ear is as good
as a.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Twenty one year old what woman?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I can show that. I can.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I can show a twenty one year old woman really.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Old boy man, I suppose a twenty one year old youngster.
But yeah, but isn't that out of it? Like that
makes no sense at all.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
You spent your whole life in headphones and loud environment.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I've been in hey, middle bands and dance music at
nightclubs and then when you know how loud, I had
my headphones on it doing the radio. Yeah loudy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
These Roberts jeans are good jeans.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, I just I don't know what I think. Maybe
I've got my theories about why that is, but I
don't care. It's weird as well.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Actually, I think I might not know share the theory
because I think it's quite an interesting theory.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
If you listen to if you.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What you what the noise the you know, if you're
listening to like any other muscle, like a one hundred
p scent wrong on this because I'm trying to figure
out why it would be though.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That doesn't make sense, and and and so I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Figure if you're listening to it, then you're using it,
you know, And then right, so it's like if there's
a say there's a drill or a band saw. Yeah,
I'm very well, I'll just get this.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Get out of it, you know, Yeah, you're blocking it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, well I just I just be around it. I
just I just get away from it. And or just
but it's still drums.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, no headphone.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I mean the fact that you know, for most of
your life you've been well, it's in your out of life.
You've been wearing headphones.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's like my proclimate. And you crank up your bloody headphones,
get it. And so so I guess with the voice,
it's the voice. Just I'm a lot less worried about
I used to be really worried about it, right, it
used to be really the song. And now it's just
(19:59):
like the less the less I think about it, then
the better it.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Is sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I've joined the choir that's helped the choir called
the Sting Choir, and and there's nice of us and
we get together in the church hall every Monday night.
That's what I do on Monday nights now church go
to the church hall and pression in church hall with
ninety people and we sing Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, Queens of
(20:25):
Stone Age, Black Sabbath. That's so good with us, cool man, anybody,
anybody can join the reckon.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
They reckon the choir.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Singing in a choir one of the best things you
can ever do for yourself, for your brain.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Do you know one thing I think about. I think
it's that I've really noticed. It's something, you know, how
we are told that we are all. Yeah, we've all
got lots of friends, and we are involved in so
many different communities online and stuff I don't know, doesn't
mean you just mean online he's looking at and it's
and it's a real community thing because you sort of go,
you're sort of of you. It's ninety people mostly most
(21:03):
of you've got no idea, most of you wouldn't walk
up and to normally, but then you're there and you're
so so you do. And so if you meet older people,
you know, yeah, straight to people, less straight people, or
just the whole the whole community of people you know
and you. But you're all getting on that when we
did that show a couple of weeks ago. You know,
we're all sort of focused on the same thing. We're
all got the same yeah, goo good.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Luck, everyone swimming in the same direction.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, But it's something I realized doing that that that's
something that's like maybe twenty years ago. I suppose that's
something that one and three of your friends would be doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but now I don't know anyone else.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's really missing.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's weird and it's and it's I think it's bad.
I think it's bad. That's missing.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, I think it's better in like rural communities, you know,
you're always looking for those opportunity it's way easier to
get together.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
But certainly in the cities, you sit down, you're on your.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Screen, you're in all.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
These great things are happening. You well, I'll be cooling,
and you know that happens. You completely miss it. Yeah,
that thinks really weird.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That's a big thing of church, I think was it
was it was a number of things for people. It
wasn't just about God. It was for some people was
it's just about the fact that they would meet people
who that se on a Sunday and they'd have a
bit of a chat.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
It's the yarn in the parking lot afterwards as much
as it is any and you.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Have to and you have to sort of you can't
just rock and you're going to get cut.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
The great move though whoever decided to bring music into
the church, because it's you know, it wasn't necessarily a
thing someone decided to do.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That good thing about it was seeing songs like you know,
like when I was doing I was thinking the solo
for war Pigs at the show we did, and it's
like I'm lying in bed, you know, my son sleep
next to me, and I'm trying to remember the lyrics
and the lyrics are not they're not nice lyrics like
poisoning the pretty much Mine morning. Yes, I got that
(22:52):
Politicians South then and watching like a bunch of like
like and you know, we've got, like I said, it's
quite a few older people in the choir, and that we're
all singing these these radio hit songs like the Panic
the Vomits or the one that the song off and
there's the beautiful bi of sopranos all go at the
end of go then go we hope you us so beautiful.
(23:18):
That sounds like that's very unchurched. It's quite unchurched. Yeah, yeah,
And I've only been since June July maybe, and it's
been going for ten years. It's called it It's t
I M m U in German it means something.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Studio germinal.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
T I in g.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
What does it mean?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Having about having a hand just a long just a
German hand.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's why we keep on hand. We just keep a
German on stuff. There's no other qualifications.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
German turns out to be useful.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, daily, Thanks.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
For coming in and and good luck with the shows.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm looking forward. I'll be coming along. Yep.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I'll be looking forward to seeing that. And I'm sure
lots of people will be super excited about that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Love it now, we're gonna be. We're gonna be. We're
gonna be doing some giveaways and stuff on Hurcy Hiary
the stations we Cobb station for it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, that's us.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Thank you very much for having me, Thanks coming always
always lovely to have you and and your best of
luck for everything.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Compliments of the Yull Tide.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh you merry Christmas Radio.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
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