April 13, 2026 • 9 mins
Villainy have unleashed a big new tune called Happy Waste, their singer Neill called in for a chat about Homegrown moving from Wellington to the Tron and some of the random gigs they've had this year including playing under a bridge (ala RHCP) in Tauranga.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio hod Keys Off the Record Podcast with
Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Keasy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And we've got Neil from the band Villainy and with
us get a neel your mad Bar afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Really good, really good. Thanks good man.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You were just saying off here that you've just had
the arrival of a baby in your life.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How exciting is that we did? We did.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
My fiance and I welcomed to a little girl in January. Yeah,
it's really cool. She she came three weeks earlier. I
was actually I was in band practice and my partner
was like, you know, just just go be fine. And
then I got this message at like eight o'clock. She's like,
we think we're on. I said to the boys, go
but we went for another hour and then figured it out.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You know, yeah yeah, yeah, sweet.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Like jamming and sort of you know, noodling around while
your wife could be going into labor, right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's that kind of weird anxiety.
I mean, she was she was like, oh right, So
I'm like I don't want to I don't want to
jump too quickly, but but I think, you know, the
text mes was like I think we're kind of on. Yeah,
it was time to go, and yeah, baby came like
four hours later.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Wow, so it was.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good that I went home.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So you did make it in time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I absolutely made it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, well you did better than me made.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I was in the pub when my partner was having
our first child and she was like, oh, I think
you know it could be coming in the next hour
or two, and I was like, false, Dawn, I think
I'll just have another couple of beasies.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And then she was born and I missed it. But yeah,
you know, that's that's all. I had three others.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So yeah, does she mind?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Na, I don't think she's held a grudge man your wife? Yeah,
well that was your ex.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's an X now yeah, I mean yeah, sure, but
there's fantastic man congratulation.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Girls rock, by the way.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I think there is in boys a yeah for
it for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, they're more chatty.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Well, it depends how many you have got, because Jason's
got four girls. Yes, I've got one. One's pretty easy,
and I'm glad I haven't got a boy because when
you see boys that are similar age my girl's six
and see boys running around, it's like, dude, I don't
have I don't have that kind of energy at any younger.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hey, Neil Villainy, very exciting news for you fellows. You've
just released a new single. We just had listened to it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It rocks mane, happy wat, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It is a tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, that's a new single. It's the first and I
think a couple of years so we've been we've been
tracking a whole bunch of songs. Is the first off
what will be a new record, which is really exciting
for us. And yeah, this is one of those songs
that's kind of been kicking around for a while and
we dusted it off. When you know this this thing
is sounding huge. Let's let's record it properly and get
it out.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, because in terms of you guys, I know that
you were saying off here as well. You guys were
just on a massive string of live shows and stuff.
But your live sort of performance and that energy, capturing
that putting it onto a record, You've done quite well
with this one because it starts straight away pretty damn intense,
you know what I mean, Like it really kicks in
the stomach straight away.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, we like to start with the hook. You know,
get people something memorable and on the spread of shows
we did. We did four over a weekend around Homegrown,
and we always like to kind of, you know, try
things and see if we fail. And the thing with
the song was to teach the audience the opening lines
and see if it works. And you know, you kind
of like ships say that ye great, great great, you
(03:21):
know it is this going to work? And we're gonna
be standing there like an idiot while everyone just stares
at me going yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And when you're when you're picking a single, is there
anyone being like, hey, you should start with like, you know,
ten seconds of instrumental so that radio people can talk
over the top of it and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
If they are were not listen to them.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, right, because this one just starts straight away rip snort,
straight into it. But it's not something you do actually
hear very often nowadays. Yeah, I mean why wait, yeah,
straight to the good stuff, right, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So you know, we successfully managed to teach people the song.
You can see the results on the video as well,
which has the Homegrown playback of that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, there's a few confused is sitting there, but for
the most part, it work.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Well, I mean new Son as well. You know, it's
always gonna be a bit confusing for a bit. But
what we'll do is we play it, James for.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
The first time.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Okay, yeah, cool.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
We've never played it on Hudarky before, Jason.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Haven't we, Man, this is the first time, right because
you played it before. That was just okay, said, going
to be the first time live on air.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We're going to debut because that's why Nail's here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Ah right, sweet Radio Hurdarchy's off the record podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, indeed, Happy Waiste there by Villainy And speaking of Villainy,
we've got Neil from the band and with us tune mate,
thank you. How do you feel when you're you know,
it's released out into the public. Is there anxiety? Are
you worried or are you excited? Or a combination of
the two?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Always, always there's always that thing of like are people
going to like this? You know, and which we try
not to kind of live in that world of like
serving you know, the audience and all that kind of stuff,
but you're always like, oh, like is this gonna hit?
Is this the thing? It's feeling good?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It's the thing, right because it is for the audience
because you're a musician, but it's also for you. Getting
that balance right must be pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean I kind of like we just put
out music that we like, right, and Yeah, with this record,
we we really wanted to like bottle that live thing
and make sure that we're playing things that felt really
good live and hit in the right ways. And I think, like,
you know, we played the song out live and it
and it worked instantly, and we're taken that kind of
ethos with the other tracks too, Like you know, just
(05:25):
big riffs and big moments, right, you know, you can
just imagine yourself in the crowd and you want to
go hard at that point.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah, the only thing you should be trying to impresses
each other. It's like, do you guys like it? And
if you like it, then the audience that you've already
built will probably like it as well. It's the same
with making TV or anything like that. You've got no yeah, all.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Radio, that's great idea, right, what the audience is going
to like and you just need to you need to
love it and then hopefully someone else doesn't.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
If they don't, too bad, yeah, and if.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's not exciting to us, it's not going to be
exciting to you. And listening, yeah, you can tell everyone's
fine it and if they're going through the motions and
that is not the band that we want to be.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh mate, we do that every day with Radio totally.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Show you want to be though.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, if we cared, it would be different, but
we don't, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Just on Sorry, but you guys just played at home Grown.
I wanted to know because I'm pretty sure that was
the first time it was in the tron after being
in Wellington for years. How does that go compared to Wellington?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Look, it's a really different vibe. Wellington has that waterfront
thing going on. You kind of walk along along the
promenade and you know, the different stuff and different stages.
The new Homeground site though, it's it's just like a
big hot summer festival. It's a huge field. You can
see all the stages from one point.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
But it was cool.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
There was no like Bleeder in that stuff that you
worry about. You know, you weren't hearing you know, like
a like an electronic acts from the rock stage and
vice versa. So it's laid out really.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Well, that's good Neil from Villainy and with us right now,
I've just played their brand new some Happy Waists. You
guys played four shows in two days and you were
just saying off here one of those well three of
those shows actually were within what's seventeen hours. You played
about three shows and you were going as hard as
we just heard you on that song.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, we played that song at all of them, so
that that was the old like teach the audience how
to sing it thing, yeah, which which worked out. But yeah,
so we did. We did a warm up as you do,
you know, you've got to make sure that you know
things still work and blow out the cob webs and
that sort of things. That we did that in Auckland
and then we got down to Hamilton we did Homegrown
and then they asked us to do an after party.
(07:32):
So we were like, yeah, why not, screw it, let's
do that. Yeah, So we got a stage at Homegrown
at late nine, got in a van, went to that venue,
sound checked, played at one am, went back to the hotel,
got to be at like three or four, got up
the next day and then we drifted Totrong and we
played under the Harbor Bridge and this like kind of
pop up, free free thing, which was like, I mean,
(07:53):
all those shows were really fun. You know, Homegrown is
huge stage, tons of people.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, iconic event too, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So so iconic. And then yeah, we did this kind
of like after party thing at Last Place, which is
this you know, back alley bar. And then we did
this free pop up, which which was sick.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
It's one of those things that's massively annoying in the moment,
but you can look back and be proud.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Of so it's so much so yeah, and it's it's
I mean, it kind of makes sense, right, but like
I found we got to that third show, I was like, fuck,
I need to sleep.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well, Like just do it. Like if we do three,
if we do a radio show that I might jump
on a podcast or do like a commentary with the
acc I'm oh, man, I'm sure my throat's a bit
soft from talking. Have a vocal zone.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm not going as hard as you are. How are
you after all that?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I just just pushed through until it doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
A few beers, he's made a few beers. He's you'll
be sweet air to just smash a hotel room.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Up at all.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I should have, but we don't quite have the money
and budget to you know, cover that sort of experience.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Didn't be any TV's out the window or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
TV these days they're on the wall. Screwdriver.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of admin going on, totally.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Neil from Villainy before we let you go. I've just
had your new single, but that is the first off
an upcoming album. When can we expect that?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
We haven't quite finished it, so we're still crashed, crushing through,
crashing through. I'm getting it finished, but yeah, we'd like
to have it out in second half of the year.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You better man, we'll be taking.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Make sure we tray. Yeah, but you know it's killer.
We're stoked without going and as I said, like you know,
big refs, big moments and more of what you just said.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, well, when it's done, mate, make sure you come
back in and have it spin and have a yarn
on Hode.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
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Welcome to Radio hod Keys Off the Record Podcast with
Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Keasy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And we've got Neil from the band Villainy and with
us get a neel your mad Bar afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Really good, really good. Thanks good man.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You were just saying off here that you've just had
the arrival of a baby in your life.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How exciting is that we did? We did.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
My fiance and I welcomed to a little girl in January. Yeah,
it's really cool. She she came three weeks earlier. I
was actually I was in band practice and my partner
was like, you know, just just go be fine. And
then I got this message at like eight o'clock. She's like,
we think we're on. I said to the boys, go
but we went for another hour and then figured it out.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You know, yeah yeah, yeah, sweet.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Like jamming and sort of you know, noodling around while
your wife could be going into labor, right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's that kind of weird anxiety.
I mean, she was she was like, oh right, So
I'm like I don't want to I don't want to
jump too quickly, but but I think, you know, the
text mes was like I think we're kind of on. Yeah,
it was time to go, and yeah, baby came like
four hours later.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Wow, so it was.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good that I went home.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So you did make it in time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I absolutely made it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, well you did better than me made.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I was in the pub when my partner was having
our first child and she was like, oh, I think
you know it could be coming in the next hour
or two, and I was like, false, Dawn, I think
I'll just have another couple of beasies.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And then she was born and I missed it. But yeah,
you know, that's that's all. I had three others.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So yeah, does she mind?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Na, I don't think she's held a grudge man your wife? Yeah,
well that was your ex.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's an X now yeah, I mean yeah, sure, but
there's fantastic man congratulation.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Girls rock, by the way.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I think there is in boys a yeah for
it for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, they're more chatty.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Well, it depends how many you have got, because Jason's
got four girls. Yes, I've got one. One's pretty easy,
and I'm glad I haven't got a boy because when
you see boys that are similar age my girl's six
and see boys running around, it's like, dude, I don't
have I don't have that kind of energy at any younger.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hey, Neil Villainy, very exciting news for you fellows. You've
just released a new single. We just had listened to it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It rocks mane, happy wat, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It is a tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, that's a new single. It's the first and I
think a couple of years so we've been we've been
tracking a whole bunch of songs. Is the first off
what will be a new record, which is really exciting
for us. And yeah, this is one of those songs
that's kind of been kicking around for a while and
we dusted it off. When you know this this thing
is sounding huge. Let's let's record it properly and get
it out.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, because in terms of you guys, I know that
you were saying off here as well. You guys were
just on a massive string of live shows and stuff.
But your live sort of performance and that energy, capturing
that putting it onto a record, You've done quite well
with this one because it starts straight away pretty damn intense,
you know what I mean, Like it really kicks in
the stomach straight away.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, we like to start with the hook. You know,
get people something memorable and on the spread of shows
we did. We did four over a weekend around Homegrown,
and we always like to kind of, you know, try
things and see if we fail. And the thing with
the song was to teach the audience the opening lines
and see if it works. And you know, you kind
of like ships say that ye great, great great, you
(03:21):
know it is this going to work? And we're gonna
be standing there like an idiot while everyone just stares
at me going yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And when you're when you're picking a single, is there
anyone being like, hey, you should start with like, you know,
ten seconds of instrumental so that radio people can talk
over the top of it and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
If they are were not listen to them.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, right, because this one just starts straight away rip snort,
straight into it. But it's not something you do actually
hear very often nowadays. Yeah, I mean why wait, yeah,
straight to the good stuff, right, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So you know, we successfully managed to teach people the song.
You can see the results on the video as well,
which has the Homegrown playback of that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, there's a few confused is sitting there, but for
the most part, it work.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Well, I mean new Son as well. You know, it's
always gonna be a bit confusing for a bit. But
what we'll do is we play it, James for.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
The first time.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Okay, yeah, cool.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
We've never played it on Hudarky before, Jason.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Haven't we, Man, this is the first time, right because
you played it before. That was just okay, said, going
to be the first time live on air.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We're going to debut because that's why Nail's here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Ah right, sweet Radio Hurdarchy's off the record podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, indeed, Happy Waiste there by Villainy And speaking of Villainy,
we've got Neil from the band and with us tune mate,
thank you. How do you feel when you're you know,
it's released out into the public. Is there anxiety? Are
you worried or are you excited? Or a combination of
the two?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Always, always there's always that thing of like are people
going to like this? You know, and which we try
not to kind of live in that world of like
serving you know, the audience and all that kind of stuff,
but you're always like, oh, like is this gonna hit?
Is this the thing? It's feeling good?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It's the thing, right because it is for the audience
because you're a musician, but it's also for you. Getting
that balance right must be pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean I kind of like we just put
out music that we like, right, and Yeah, with this record,
we we really wanted to like bottle that live thing
and make sure that we're playing things that felt really
good live and hit in the right ways. And I think, like,
you know, we played the song out live and it
and it worked instantly, and we're taken that kind of
ethos with the other tracks too, Like you know, just
(05:25):
big riffs and big moments, right, you know, you can
just imagine yourself in the crowd and you want to
go hard at that point.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah, the only thing you should be trying to impresses
each other. It's like, do you guys like it? And
if you like it, then the audience that you've already
built will probably like it as well. It's the same
with making TV or anything like that. You've got no yeah, all.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Radio, that's great idea, right, what the audience is going
to like and you just need to you need to
love it and then hopefully someone else doesn't.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
If they don't, too bad, yeah, and if.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's not exciting to us, it's not going to be
exciting to you. And listening, yeah, you can tell everyone's
fine it and if they're going through the motions and
that is not the band that we want to be.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh mate, we do that every day with Radio totally.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Show you want to be though.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, if we cared, it would be different, but
we don't, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Just on Sorry, but you guys just played at home Grown.
I wanted to know because I'm pretty sure that was
the first time it was in the tron after being
in Wellington for years. How does that go compared to Wellington?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Look, it's a really different vibe. Wellington has that waterfront
thing going on. You kind of walk along along the
promenade and you know, the different stuff and different stages.
The new Homeground site though, it's it's just like a
big hot summer festival. It's a huge field. You can
see all the stages from one point.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
But it was cool.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
There was no like Bleeder in that stuff that you
worry about. You know, you weren't hearing you know, like
a like an electronic acts from the rock stage and
vice versa. So it's laid out really.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Well, that's good Neil from Villainy and with us right now,
I've just played their brand new some Happy Waists. You
guys played four shows in two days and you were
just saying off here one of those well three of
those shows actually were within what's seventeen hours. You played
about three shows and you were going as hard as
we just heard you on that song.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, we played that song at all of them, so
that that was the old like teach the audience how
to sing it thing, yeah, which which worked out. But yeah,
so we did. We did a warm up as you do,
you know, you've got to make sure that you know
things still work and blow out the cob webs and
that sort of things. That we did that in Auckland
and then we got down to Hamilton we did Homegrown
and then they asked us to do an after party.
(07:32):
So we were like, yeah, why not, screw it, let's
do that. Yeah, So we got a stage at Homegrown
at late nine, got in a van, went to that venue,
sound checked, played at one am, went back to the hotel,
got to be at like three or four, got up
the next day and then we drifted Totrong and we
played under the Harbor Bridge and this like kind of
pop up, free free thing, which was like, I mean,
(07:53):
all those shows were really fun. You know, Homegrown is
huge stage, tons of people.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, iconic event too, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So so iconic. And then yeah, we did this kind
of like after party thing at Last Place, which is
this you know, back alley bar. And then we did
this free pop up, which which was sick.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
It's one of those things that's massively annoying in the moment,
but you can look back and be proud.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Of so it's so much so yeah, and it's it's
I mean, it kind of makes sense, right, but like
I found we got to that third show, I was like, fuck,
I need to sleep.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well, Like just do it. Like if we do three,
if we do a radio show that I might jump
on a podcast or do like a commentary with the
acc I'm oh, man, I'm sure my throat's a bit
soft from talking. Have a vocal zone.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm not going as hard as you are. How are
you after all that?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I just just pushed through until it doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
A few beers, he's made a few beers. He's you'll
be sweet air to just smash a hotel room.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Up at all.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I should have, but we don't quite have the money
and budget to you know, cover that sort of experience.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Didn't be any TV's out the window or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
TV these days they're on the wall. Screwdriver.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of admin going on, totally.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Neil from Villainy before we let you go. I've just
had your new single, but that is the first off
an upcoming album. When can we expect that?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
We haven't quite finished it, so we're still crashed, crushing through,
crashing through. I'm getting it finished, but yeah, we'd like
to have it out in second half of the year.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You better man, we'll be taking.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Make sure we tray. Yeah, but you know it's killer.
We're stoked without going and as I said, like you know,
big refs, big moments and more of what you just said.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, well, when it's done, mate, make sure you come
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