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February 10, 2026 32 mins

This week on On The Front Foot, Bryan Waddle and Jeremy Coney review the Blackcaps opening matches at the WT20 championship. 

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(01:07):
for our limited bowling resources or the form of Russian
Ravendra used pictures and Pakistan or Bangladesh is either one
of them a winner after Pakistan retracting their boycotts of
a match with India. And if you could change one
of cricket's laws, what would it be. We'll talk about
that a little later on, but I'm going to talk

(01:29):
about T twenty crickets the World T twenty and if
I never hear another national anthem, it will be way
too soon. Welcome to Peter Holland and the Jeremy Cane.
You've enjoyed the national anthems.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Don't listen to them, turn the sound down.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I stand up for all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
On your feet, yeah, ah.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
To balance on one leg sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Which one.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's a good one? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I got to say I have liked a lot of
what I've seen in it, just in a broad sense,
and I was probably skeptic when the number of teams
was in last to the level that it has been,
But I think on reflection it's been very good and
the quality has been not abject at all. It's been

(02:26):
it's been interesting to watch good cricket all round, from
the media through to the UAE. Yes they got flogged,
but it's it's it's been good. It's competitive stuff out there.
General statement, I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I couldn't disagree with that, actually, not that I've seen
as much as you have. Clearly, Moose it's too much
standing on one leg for the soul fella, So I
I was quite I thought Netherlands actually look at very
organized side, just to bring it back to you, Moose,
because they pushed Pakistan, didn't they I think in the

(03:02):
first game of the tournaments at Colombo and then yeah,
and they of it. They kind of dismantled Namibia after
a while. You know Bar's Delaya.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, well on that point, had it not been for well,
it wasn't the easiest catch, but there was a catch
when they were Pakistan were struggling and they put a
catch down. You take that catch following which when when
it was dropped, they then flogged about twenty on runs.

(03:34):
That was well and truly in their grasp and they
would have tipped them over. And they they played played
very well, bold, bold well against Pakistan, good side, and
then as you say, did tip up comprehensively with bust Delada,
which was great because the rest of the teams called Akerman, Levitt,

(03:57):
Edwards and someone else. He's at this Dutchman.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
The interesting thing is that there was a drop catch
I think in the New Zealand game against Afghanistan too
that might have made a difference as well. Let's look
at the game between UAE and the Black Caps. Let's
see what coach Rob Walter had to say.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Please but realistic.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Obviously, very happy with a win. Thought we did a
lot of things right to you con win a game
by ten weeks or not. It was a pretty docile wicket.
We expected a bit more pace and bounced, but wasn't there.
So I think the guys responded really well to that.
Good execution from a skill point of view. Used a
different a few different bowling combinations which was nice and

(04:40):
yeah one seventy as well underpar and with our batting.
Obviously saw that the two guys you know, knocked it
off in fifteen overs. Pretty happy with that. At different
times in different franchise Cinneamas as well as for the
black Caps, we've seen these guys deliver those types of performances,
so it was great to see them do it together.
You know, the Bash brothers, you know they when they

(05:02):
get going like that, it's pretty brutal stuff. So very
happy that they you know, they're representing us. Look obviously,
then you know, winning becomes a habit and you've got
to find ways to do it. Probably as the first
challenges yet to come against South Africa in four days time,
so you know, we'll sort of rest up this evening. Obviously,

(05:22):
capture all our learnings couldn't get ourselves ready for South
Africa just the next step in our journey in this
World Cup.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
So looking forward to emphatic when but you'd have to
say the UAE bowling wasn't of a great standard. And
the bash brothers, as I've become done as Finella and
Tim Saiffert really bashed them around, didn't they.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, they did. It wasn't an easy pitch to bowl on, Brian.
Was it that red clay? You know that the ball
didn't it seemed to me didn't swing and didn't seem
there was no spin. You're reduced to kind of trying
to go to the extremes of where you bowl, you know.

(06:11):
So it's it's slower paces, taking pace off and getting
a slow bouncer, for example, or it's going wide of
their right handers or left hands off stumps and getting
it just inside the line and getting trying to rule
a lot of the field out of play to access

(06:31):
by that batsman. And then you can sort of pack
one side of the field, so to speak, with your
field and really you've got it. It seems to me
in those conditions that you've just got to adapt as
quickly as you can. They just bowled. There was a
guy they had called Rower who's the left armor for UAE,

(06:55):
and he just raced in, didn't he. He almost ran
as fast as he bowled. But he was putting everything
into it, you could see. But until he went wide
of the off stump and he got a lot of
singles off him for that over, which was kind of
about over number ten something like that. He was being

(07:18):
hit mercilessly. And also Janeid did exactly the same went
for twenty two and his first over in the power play,
which I still bring up, you guys. I think bowlers
are going to need some help frankly, because there's not
much they can do sometimes and New Zealand. New Zealand

(07:40):
have played well enough, haven't they. That's how I feel
about it in the two games. Well enough. That doesn't
mean everything's been perfect. There are areas of their game
where they're still a little bit loose, and it tends
to be more in their bowling than their batting. Although
they lost perhaps I thought a number of wickets that

(08:00):
could have been prevented against Afgun than the Afghanistan match,
but look, look they're there at the moment. I do
think I think the bowling if they bowl like that,
because I thought the UAE and that first wicket partners
what number three in the opener, they really put it

(08:23):
to New Zealand, didn't they. I mean they were looking
like a much higher total than one seventy. They played
good shots, they were all around the fields, and our
bowlers seemed a little bit lost. We put enough good
overs together in different parts like nineteen eleven Nichem Satna
Ravendra fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen Ravendra Satna, Phillips, Ferguson and

(08:48):
the last two, but the rest were under pressure. I
felt quite a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I think it's going to be the case though, Mary's
isn't it that the bowlers are probably going to struggle
early on? Anyway. A lot will depend on when you play,
because they've got day games, they've got early evening games,
and they've got night games going every year every round.
The pictures where they go back for a second crack
might be starting to wear and tear a little bit,

(09:15):
and so you know, things could be different. But further
on the tournament.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, my observation was as if to my earlier point
around in a general, the people that we're playing here
are UAE in this instance, you know they wouldn't get
a look in ordinarily. But those, as Jerry pointed out,
the first couple of players for a UAE, they look
very very good. I mean, these are good crickets and

(09:40):
they made us look pretty average. They were taking on
ferguson no issue. What that's from doing with the wicked
I suspect. But now I think in a more general sense,
what would consume me is it as spinners. I think
Satin is very good and by the way, I think
he's turning into a very very good captain to He
seems very calm, measured, methodical about stuff. Doesn't panic. But

(10:03):
lack of a really good spinner or not playing we're
not playing Sodi. I notice Phillips doesn't really doesn't, doesn't
do a lot for me. Seems to go a brilliant player.
He's got to have him on the team. And they're
using Revendra clearly because they need that left arm. But
I think that's where we're going to get found out
because the medium pacers don't seem to be concerning concerning

(10:28):
even these second tier nations that much at all. Afghanistan, no,
there we go no issues with the Quex at all.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
But sorry, we've once been boiled down. Bracewell is coming
home because he hasn't recovered from his injury, been replaced
by Cole mcconki. And I suppose Bracelet is someone who
can turn the ball if if that requirement is there.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's yeah, that's a bit, that's a big loss. I
didn't know that was Did that just come out as
it just come out? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, no, we were,
you know, hoped hopeful. I think that he was going
to be fit for the for the latter parts of
the of the two elements. If New Zealand continue to
play as well as they have, they may be a

(11:13):
bit strong, certainly for Canada. And they're plapped their back
at Chennai for that match, so they've now experienced both
red and black clay, you know, pictures there. It was interesting,
wasn't it? Last night Duffy had only two overs. Our
best tweet te twenty bowler and that that's an interesting
one because because Santna has actually turned to Phillips and

(11:38):
to Ravendra for about the eighteenth over and in either
match hasn't he's he's gone with a bit of a
gut feel and instinct, I guess, but it was quite
costly last night with the overgame for twenty seven. That
can cost your match in a tight one.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, that was an interesting feature from from the point
of view of the side. They're looking as though they're
trying to change around the bowling to some extent as well.
Don't they doing something a little bit different rather than
being predictable. I think one thing that was impressive out

(12:16):
of the batting Seifert and Allen was the number of
times they took well organized singles. There are only fifteen
dot balls in the New Zealand innings. UAE had forty
eight dot balls and that certainly makes a difference in
terms of rotating the strike and you know, keeping the

(12:37):
scoreboard ticking over. And I thought they played that really professionally,
and that's a good sign that if those two are
informed at the top of the order and can score
at that rate, it might be a different story against
South Africa. But you know, those singles are still important,
aren't they.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Look I think I've been quite impressed by Finale and
I've always thought was a very very good player and
he's showing it. Noting both of these came out of
the Big Bash in Australia form just as an aside.
Does that mean something? I'm not sure, but they both
had pretty good series over there. But the thing about

(13:16):
Fan Allen, which I'm increasing liking, is he looks more measured,
he looks more patient, playing more orthodox shots, but then
knows he's got the power if he needs it and
can bring that on and is bringing different parts to
his game. He's looking a player who's maturing, confident about

(13:38):
what he's doing, confident in himself, and that's evident now
watching him. Okay, he got knocked over against Afghanistan and
that looked a bit rush. Oh that's not so good,
But that I think overall, I think those are good
signs for us moving into the depth of the tournament.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I agree. I think he is judging the line
and the length and saying this is not a ball
I can take advantage job and play slightly loosely. That's
what's really happened, isn't it. They both tightened up to
a point where they are happy to take a single
even though they're hitting the ball quite hard to long off.

(14:23):
You know, they're punching it hard and if they get
it slightly wide, there is a chance for a boundary,
but if it's a one, they seem quite content and
don't feel a pressure rising in their throat to hit
another boundary next ball that they face. And I think
both of them yesterday. If you will have a quick

(14:43):
look as I am now through the runs, because I
take it ball by ball, and I actually write the
score down as I go. There are ones everywhere every over.
There are singles everywhere, and yes it's dotted about by
fours and sixes and the boundaries the odd two, not
too many of them, but fours and sixes. But ones

(15:05):
are the currency that they operate, and if it's not
there to hit, they'll take it for one. And that's
been the change I think for both of them. And
they've got enough decent shots and footwork that they are
able to convert a dot into a single. And so

(15:27):
that's the difference I think that I've watched and seen
so far.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And of course, due that puts pressure on the opposition.
We're about field if I'm still ticking over knowing that
I've also got the opportunity there these guys here when
the white right one comes, they're going to whistle it
out of the part. So by me doing this, one
of keeps the score going, but two it says we're
confident about where we're going in our own games that

(15:55):
we can score about it when we need to. So
it's quite impressive change and evolution, shall we say? Of
these players?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, and I do think they had last night Hada
a left arm spinner skiddy coming into sort of Middland
leg Bold about Bold, he was their best bowler, wasn't
he ua four overs for about twenty something and so,
I mean it was a really good return when you
compare it to the other bowlers. But they just kept

(16:23):
taking him for singles, didn't they. And he was a
little bit like Mujib. They had a guy who Bold
even abought, a bit more like Mudji, but he went distance,
didn't he a Pabashah or someone like that, went for
sort of fourteen off is over but it was paida
They just kept kept taking him, kept taking him, waiting
for a loose one, and then you know, once the

(16:47):
last I think the last couple of deliveries, he went
for a six and the four in his last and
his fourth over. So that's the difference they learned from
the from the experience against Afghanistan and they just played
him and they milked him because runs were coming of
course at the other end. So they're good, they're batting
will wads.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh, most definitely. I just wonder a record partnership, no
wickets down, a ten wicket victory didn't give Rivender a
chance to show his form. Should we be concerned about
his form again? A first baller in the game against Afghanistan,
I'd just like to see him get out there in
the park and try and get some form back.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
No, I agree, Yeah, I'm on that page.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, totally, first ball, duck and then no bat and
now South Africa. That's that's not really how you want
to start, you know, your World tournament, is it? And
that's the downside of course of the top order. We've
noticed this in past tournaments as well. Any side that's
doing well in the top three, suddenly the middle order

(17:57):
haven't had a bat. Then you come under pressure in
a game and no one's had an innings. So that's
the downside. It's not a bad downside, but it's something
that has to be taken account of. I think I
think we'll I think we'll find against South Africa just
exactly where we are. I mean, we are now going

(18:21):
to a place where our opposition has already played and
a bad against South Africa. They've already played there and
had an easy victory against Canada. And they've got you know,
left and right to open the Markram and de Klock
in the in the power play. They've got Rickleton. Brevis

(18:41):
is a really strong hitter in the Mill didn't get
any runs in that first match, but then Miller, David
Miller a big hitter again, Stubbs. I mean, the only
one that's missing is Heinrich Clarssen, who's who's given up
and gone to franchise stuff now and then with the
bowling in Gide at the death, got some good variations

(19:03):
the left arm angle, Jansen with bounce, Ribada with Seeman.
May be it may be sounding I'm talking these fellas up,
but they are good players. And then Bosh and Maharaj
you see, and actually they're very similar to New Zealand,
aren't they. South Africa. They're all a bit like I mean,
seem dominant and then have a decent left arm spinner
to back it up, and then have a bit of

(19:25):
a part timer and markrom to cover. So they're very
similar bowling attacks really that New Zealand they've got perhaps
a wee bit more variety, but Rabarda is a good bowler.
Two fellas, that's going to be a real test.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I've got nothing there. It's that's where it is, and
I think that's what we always thought it was going
to be. If we can get through Pakis Afghanistan, then
then the other next one was South Africa.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, Nakia hasn't bowled yet, has he. Nakia didn't play
that game. He's normally used sometimes in the middle of
the innings and he's quicker than all the rest, correct
and that just that might hurry our oapeners. If they
are still then that might just hurry them on a bit.
You might get a top edge a howk doesn't quite

(20:14):
work that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Interesting challenge coming up against them, and Rob Walter I'm
sure as well aware of that, being a former coach
of the South African side, so he will have the
players well prepared.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
One of the other outcomes from the World T twenty,
Pakistan's fixture against India is set to go ahead as
scheduled after the Pakistan government, good on them, ended its
order for a boycott. Who's the winner here is that Pakistan?
Is it Bangladesh who won't be there but are going
to get an ICEC tournament out of it? Or is

(20:51):
it India? Or is it just the game of cricket.
Is there a winner in all of this, because I
see these controversies developing again in the future at some
other time or some other stage, is there a winner?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Well? I don't think, as if it hadn't gone ahead,
the broadcasting rights were likely to be in breach and
therefore renegotiation. So everyone's a bit of a winner by
virtu of the fact that's going ahead, and reputedly this
game is worth worth consider amount of money. So from

(21:26):
that point of view, I can't help but think that,
as Jerry correctly pointed out in the previous podcast, it's
only a tweet, but it was an opening ambit, wasn't it.
And I suspect that Pakistan used it as leverage And
I just wonder if there was a bit of a
side deal involved here. We'll never know, but it's not

(21:50):
beyond belief that perhaps they wouldn't be the case, because
they've been on the outer, pushed on the outer in
many regards, and I just think them they took their opportunity.
And I think you're right ones this could be a
portent for future such stunts to happen in tournaments to come.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, it's almost as if the international game is under
a bit more pressure than some of the franchise tournaments,
aren't they. It's because you get issues like this starting
to occur. But yeah, Bangladesh obviously came out of it
much better there was going to be. There's no kind

(22:36):
of penalties are there for withdrawing from the tournament for Bangladesh,
And I suppose Pakistan will feel good that they've been
able to negotiate that through what they've done, so they
put a bit of pressure on the ICC to do
that and say that they've had a lot of obviously

(22:58):
a bit of requests from some of the no I'm
talking about Pakistan there, from some of the friendly countries
obviously the speaking to Sri Lanka and speaking to you
and speaking to Bangladesh and so on. The interesting sentence
that I read in one of the reports, In fact,
I've got to tell you only read one, but it

(23:20):
was a discussion that one of the discussions included the
equitable distribution or more equitable distribution of the ICC revenue
share model, and I would have sought from around the world.
There was loud applause from everybody except the large the

(23:43):
Big three about that. And I think even from us,
we would be standing and we could stand on no legs.
For me and I would be very happy if we
actually saw that occur. Whether it does or not, we
don't know. And as you say, was then they're getting
hosting rights for what is it? Later on the next

(24:05):
and the next period, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Something long last lines?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, I think I agree. That's the point I was
trying to make a bit earlier. This is a point
of leverage here. That's an interesting phrase. More equitable, I
mean equable. Was equitable happen to be more equadal.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's not equitable at a moment.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
And that is the point. And and and if that
is the case, and there is more trickle down, hopefully
pour down rather than trick or, then that can only
be good for the broader game. That's going to be
better for the Tier two nations presumably as well. And
I and I think that can only be good.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, indeed, follow the money.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Has been following it for years.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I can never find.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
It looking in the wrong places.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
We've got a little item to finish off. The MCC
has amended laws of cricket. A lot of little change
is nothing significant. I just wonder whether there's any law
that you guys would like to see changed. I think
one that really sits high on my list is that
the glove punch should be limited to one per player

(25:20):
per game, or perhaps one per player per season or
per year. But on the more serious side, to me,
get rid of the television replay for the boundary saves.
If a guy keeps the ball in the field of
play but touches the rope, the ball is still in play.

(25:43):
Remember the old day's Jerry, when you can stand at
Kelbourne Park and Wellington and you can lean against the
fence and take a catch and it was out. Why
not now, if it's a brilliant piece of fielding, why
shouldn't it be just allowed to continue? Then we would
have less television replaced than the nineteen we have now,

(26:05):
and it could give us a couple moreovers play of
a lot of time. Take me apart on that one.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm kind of indifferent on that, but I can see
your point. I don't know, I'm going yeah, absolutely certainly
an old old team out of ours would have loved that.
Brian Badgacida, well, he would have been right unto that
boundaries and stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But I.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Looked at a lot of that stuff. To me, the
thing that strikes me around the change that was proposed
is the is the Laminader Bat's idea because I had
a look at what the price of a bat costs,
which I knew was quite high, but I was way
out of market. Grain Ekels Legend bat was being marked up,

(26:52):
marked down to two thousand and seven hundred and eighty
three dollars from three and a half thousand dollars. That
is just unbelievable. So if you want to promote the game,
you've got to make it affordable. So Laminada Bats, that's
going to be the impact. I can only say more
of this, please, because I just think it's it's if

(27:13):
you've got to even a even a standard old back,
it's still going to cost you a thousand dollars, not
what you think little risk of the kit. So how
do you get kids involved in the game? At that
sort of price. It's just whoa here point? Yeah, that's
that's the thing. Strikes me. One more rule if I
if I could change it for the women's game, I

(27:36):
would shorten the pitch to twenty meters.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Interesting, somebody brought somebody brought that up with me, and
I thought of himself, we must discuss this. It's an
interesting point, and we'll have a look at that on
another occasion, because I think it might change the women's game.
Umpire Coney, what law would you like to change?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think I would just I was I would think
overthrows once the balls come in and hit the stumps. Yes,
I think you really don't want to penalize a piece
of decent cricket, accurate cricket. Now, I don't know how
you guys feel about that, but I'm not sure whether

(28:20):
I mean, it happened last night, didn't it. Niche him
threw the ball in from the leg side, hit the
stumps and the guy wasn't out. But then then they
get another two or three runs. Now, do you want
to prevent field as having a crack, because that's the
thing that kind of almost happens there is that you say, well,

(28:41):
I'm not going to let this one go because just
in case I hit the stumps, it's not a big target.
And I just feel sometimes that we penalize good cricket
and I don't think that should happen.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, good point though, But Ben Stakes probably wouldn't agree
with you, would he recalling it didn't hit the stumps.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, it didn't hit the stumps.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
That hit his bat, Yeah, managed to get his bat
in the way.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, being dead.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
What you're saying is that once it hits that or
play it at the ball as.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, when you're bold, it's kind of dead, isn't it.
When they know, it's certainly a death. And I just
feel that that maybe that could be considered. I'm not
I'm not sure whether it'll be accepted because they say
the balls still live at that point. But I would
have thought the ball should should be dead once it
hits the stumps anyway.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, well, I just thought i'd toss it up the
krick and far. I've got the details of the changes.
The MCC basically said when they issued these changes, there
are seventy three material changes to the laws, along with
some linguistic changes. Make of that what you will.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, yeah, well, I had to read of the of
the of the of the of the length that you
sent through Brian, for which thank you, and I thought, yeah,
I wouldn't want to be an umpire because I'm trying
to wrap my hit around what they're trying to say.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Here.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'm talking ambiguity, I'm looking at subjectivity, and as you're
rarely pointed out, only seventy three of them.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And of course there were gendered language changes as well.
That's another one to do. So they're the things. Thanks guys,
great to review the first couple of games, and we'll
talk about the South Africa and Canada games when next
we meet on the front foot and I hope it

(30:41):
remains as exciting for you, Moose as it has been
for other people watching on television.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
You've got just very quickly. Can I make one last point?
Is Steve Smith, who's no longer in the Australian team,
going to be the what's your name? Lindsay Crumb the
US skier at the age of forty one, because I
think Steve Smith is still going to be playing at

(31:08):
the age of forty five trying to get in the
team and someone's going to say Steve, now.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, well, yeah, you could, you could stand for selector
in Australia. But you know, he's he's still the the
go to man, isn't he.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well he is, and and of course he had a
phenomenal big bash and it was harder to drop him.
So if they don't do well, there's been a lot
of fingerpointing, worn't they the most?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I agree, he's he's he's adapted his game, hasn't he
And he's he's moved on with the times, whereas perhaps
you might argue that that Kane was unable to do that.
Now Steve Smith can.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yep, it's definitely well, yeah, you're going and enjoy some
national anthems. Jerry Olgan my glove punching. I didn't do
any glove punching in those days because I missed every time.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was always in pretty good form.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
And the last punches I saw was Green Alabaster and
Mike Shriveden and a Hawk Cup match at Queen's Park
and they were having a little bit of a.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Can hardly imagine those two throwing punches near mind? Nice, Well,
we're talking to.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Next week, okay, all right, all the.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Summers.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
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