February 17, 2026 • 47 mins
This week, the Black Caps make the last 8 for the WT20, but rain and Zimbabwe eliminate the Aussies - and we wonder if we should be concerned by the departure of another top coach.
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who it is? Rain and Zimbabwe jumped the Aussies out
of the Super Age. Well, I've got Peter Holland and
Jeremy Coney with me. As ever, and the socials, I
guess would have been setting fire to the internet across
the Tasman going to make Jerry Jim Maxwell, ABC commentator
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who Bleeds Screen and Keratana Yellow had this to say,
what are shambles? They did lose three out of three
against Pakistan, So what do you expect from an out
of form, wounded, disabled, understrength, overplayed lesser team. Why does
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he say what he means?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Well, that's Jim, isn't it. I mean he likes to
he doesn't hold back. I've noticed on a number of
issues and that's obviously the one that's close to his
heart at the moment. It's quite unusual to see them
not making well is it? Did they not make? I
mean they didn't make some other ones in the tea twenties.
I mean Australia have missed out before and.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They've been beaten by Zimbabwe twice two from two of
the T twenty competition. Peter Hollen very happily dressed in
we'll call it gold, obviously in sympathy with our brothers
across the Tasman.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Despite the fact that they are definitely undermanned as it
were a missing a number of players. But we did
raise it in last week's podcast, Absent Smith, who can't
help but think and he may not be my most
favorite player, but my god, can he play. But you
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can't but think that in those conditions back when they
were playing Zimbabwe, I don't think they'd have lost that game. Look,
this is all great twenty twenty hindsight, but the fact
that he wasn't there and I can understand why why
they thought they had enough there be because they had
They've got considerable depth. But if they're not in form
the well clear they haven't because they're not in there.
(03:16):
They no good point. I think they missed marsh very much.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh yes, they did at the start.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
Very very much missed him. And you take that sort
of stability out out of a side and then it's
sort of being run by Maxwell who was a freakish talent.
Stoin Us on their day are fine, but you wouldn't
say you can lock it down. And they all, like
Smith would Travis Head can win a game for you,
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but really didn't buy it. So they all the stuff
that they had got to win it, and my god,
they should have got through the pool. I mean that
is just yeah, but that's the nature of twenty twenty cricket.
And then Zimbabwe I think, well, hey, they're going to
go through wonderful.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, that's through yah and Smith has actually been added
to the squad. Their replacement for Hazelwood. So I guess
he's going to go off his long run.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Yeah, he'll be nipping it back, and I mean he
would certainly. I mean Australia seem to load themselves with
these kind of one dimensional twenty players. You know, the
hard hit is the power hitters, they call them, don't they,
you know, Tim David, those sorts of players, and that
may have worked in India and in Chennai that we've
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been watching a bit and Indian other Indian venues where
the pictures haven't done a lot. The Sri Lanka is
a bit different, you know, especially the two Colombo venues,
that it's harder to hit through lenks. You can't really,
I mean more batsmanship is required sometimes on those surfaces
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and planting your foot and hitting through the line is
no longer possible. And so that's where they've gotten a
bit of trouble with their batting. Their top order has
failed with English and Head, and then you've they tried
to manufacture Green into a number three and then number four.
They've tried Tim David and they've all basically not quite
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done the job, and so it's been left to others
to you know, the guys like Renshaw, who they haven't
played that much cone to try and pick up the
pieces and it just seemed to me that was one
of their issues. The other one is they're not taking wickets.
They're a bit like New Zealand in that sense. Two
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wickets against Zimbabwe Brian Bennett Opener anchored the whole innings.
He was not out at the end and you know
he had little sort of flyers around him. Burl got
a few, Secundaraza got a few, the other guy as
well at the top getting twenties and thirties and they
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only got to one hundred and sixty nine. But it
was enough, you know, because then the bowler is it
Mazrabarni or something, he just the big tall guy from Barbwe.
He got about three two or three early wickets. And
also the other guy too, I mean he got a
couple as well. So but then Sri Lanka, I mean
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they really put them to the store, didn't they. For
a quarter of the game of Australia, a quarter of
the game, they were looking like they were going to
get in, you know, an excess of two hundreds. But
then as soon as marsh and Head that were dismissed.
They lost wickets immediately, so that's been an issue that
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the batting has been an issue, and also the Hazelwood injury.
I mean he gets wickets in the powerplay. That's when
you want wickets. You put teams behind yourself in a tea,
you know, behind in a T Twentydaus just wasn't picked.
He's another one who's got a few wickets. So they
were exposed I think in powerplay bowling. Remember Conway and
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Finellen did it to them in twenty twenty two. Remember
over there in Assi Berbars and Ibrahim did it to
them as well. Rot Sharma did it to them in
twenty twenty four. So and I think Stark was dropped
after that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I would have.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Thought one of the point you have mentioned moose Smith
would have made a difference because he would have he
would have seen the conditions on the day from the surface,
he would have seen the game situation, and he would
have made himself appropriate to those two things. These are
the shots I can play, these are the bats, these
are the bowlers I'll attack. And Rensure, I think is
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the other one. So there's been some selection issues as well.
So power hitting, power no power play bowling, and I
think also selection issues.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Yeah, on the on the Wrenshoal point, he's an interesting
one because he's been informant pretty much all of the
versions of cricket in Australia and was the one who
looked half decent and it would look like getting them
through against him by way, But they don't seem to
know what to do with them. But he's looked, he's
looked one of their better players, but they seem reluctant
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to sort of stay and stick with them, whereas Green,
who I hope does well but just can't seem to
get it together these days. So they've they've had out
of form, They've they've lost really critical players such as Hazwold.
Does you point out Jerry and then and then they
didn't peck people who would have got them through it.
And I agree with you absolutely. Playing in Sri Lanka
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is a very different proposition that it is playing in
some of the better, shall we say, conditions of India
that seem to be apparent to me anyway, And you'd
know that's far better than I would. But I think
you know, if the bulk of their games are going
to be in strie lanked. Surely you were taking that
into a point because Benners is the slower decks. It's
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it's the ability that actually to adjust your play was key,
rather than just as you say, those ones who just
to go go out and go hard and smash it.
That ain't going that's not gonna work in and so
it's proven.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
To be there, not all the time.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Anyway, I think that team would go quite well if
you put them in England, if you put them in
New Zealand, if you put them in Australia, and maybe
even South Africa, maybe even slightly to a lesser extent,
but places where the ball is quick and where it's
more bounce, which is not like Sri Lanka, you know
the pictures there are slightly more crumbly, there's more gaps
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and so water gets into them. So therefore they're a
little bit more slow and they and then they start
to grip a little bit as well. So I just
think just a few little errors. They also didn't they
prioritize the BBL finals ahead of a few sort of
build up warm up games, which has certainly helped New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, the Ozzies can get their passports out now give
them to the manager. They can go to the departure.
Loungs bang, thank you for coming, go home and enjoy
coming outside. I had the top eight at the Tea
Tritty World Cup. Speaking of Sri Lanka, the black Caps
are going to be playing there. I think they've had
a pretty good warm up. They've finished where we predicted.
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They lost to the South Africans. Have they got the
confidence to make it to the last four. It's going
to be tough, but you know, a good positive win
over the Canadians. The batting was strong. Good to see
Ravendra Beck Phillips is dynamic. But I still have reservations
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about our bowling attack. As you said earlier, Jerry.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, the best part of the night for me was
watching Revendra start his innings, not flicking, not looking to
sunk from ball one. You know, if Allen or Cipher
there going to obviously one of those two will be
there when he goes in. You need to have a
thoughtful player. You need to have someone like the smith
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Witch talking about don't you yes, be aggressive when required
because you can't sit back for too long. But there
is time to spend say eight balls, getting to ten
or twelve, isn't there. I just feel Ratchen has been
a little bit hyper throughout the matches and in Sri
Lanka where batsmanship is going to be needed, and particularly
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in Colombo. Palakelli, which is near Candy looks a little
better surface.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But I do agree with you.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I think the bowling is for New Zealand is a
bit of a concern.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I know the two better bowlers, Santna whose sides actually,
it seems to me, have milked a lot more. He's
only got one wicket in the twelve overs he's bowled
and three overs and three matches and Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Four wickets, our highest wicket taker.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
I think at the moment maybe he's only played three
matches now, but at least he's one with a bit
of pace and he's got that slower leg roller that
comes out, and he can also bowl around the wicket
a bit more.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Seen him do that much before.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
So the New Zealand attack, while it was diminished to
have Nichum bowling in the power play, says we aren't
the strong A strong side, I'd have to say with
the ball and you know we've all arrested the bowlers.
I don't know what you guys think, but Duffy Henry
Jamison are all about one thirty to one thirty six perhaps,
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and it gets too similar, you know. And then we
had Phillips and McConkie. So really it wasn't a strong
attack I thought for a Canadian side. While the joapner
Samra was got you know, he batted well, batter hit
the ball cleanly, always went to the leg side to
open up the off. We need to be better than
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that because we will get at some point, guys. It
already has happened, hasn't it against South Africa. We'll get hammered.
We'll get hammered. How we've done that, how we have
actually got there. We've had good little periods of overs,
two or three of them here, and another one there
and another two there, and it's kept the score down
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under two hundred. I don't know how you feel about that,
but I think we simply just don't take wickets. We
wait for people to get themselves out. We could have
taken forty potential wickets in four games. We've taken less
than half seventeen. We don't get wickets in the power play.
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We've had four in the powerplay so won a match
overs seven to twelve. We've taken three wickets over the
four matches so far. That's point seven five between those
overs seven and twelve. In the game between overs thirteen
and eighteen, as sides attack more, we've taken more wickets.
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We've taken six. So that's one point five per match
on average. So between all that you add those up,
it actually means that New Zealand by the eighteenth over
or the end of it and three point two five wickets.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's not much, is it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
And Jerry, this has been against Putting putting in South
Africa side and they flogged us, let's not forget. And
that was very comfortable win by them. But against the
lesser so called lesser sides, they haven't looked at troubled
against our bowls and and that's the thing that strikes me.
(14:38):
Can I also add in there the filming has been
a little bit abs not so flash either, you know,
drop catch or two yesterday yeap, not hard. I would
have expected better. But it's really is this apparent ease
with which should we say, those lesser teams so called
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are playing us, and yes we've been able to keep
them down to the sort of one seventies one eighties
and then go out and and and and smack them around.
But against those better sides in the South Africa particular,
those are the two things which I would concern me
more than say West Indies in England based on their
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current form.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Have we sacrificed Have we sacrificed a bowler for an
extra power hitter? I mean the top six, there's someone
there that can do the business and all and have
done a little bit here and there. Do we need
a bowling all round or yet another bowler or do
we just not have the bowling resources that you know
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make the difference the likes of Mazaraba.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Just someone might make. Have we got another spinner? Or
should they be playing Sody? Will they play Sody in
Sri Lanka? Fellas to me, that's where.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
You well, if you're not playing them there, then why
did you take him?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Well, then why haven't they played him against Canada? It
looks to me as if they, I mean, we're clearly
missing Bracewell or some other things. If they value a
finger spinner more than the than the wrist spin of Sody,
we ain't got it.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Sody is a bit like Ferguson to a certain extent,
a wicket taker can be expensive but does take wickets.
And without Ferguson, of course we didn't take that wicket.
He's back at home on maternity leave, which is justified.
Hopefully he's back for the next game that New Zealand play.
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But Sody at least does take wickets. He's our top
wicket taker, isn't he.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
The reluctance of not not not not the plan. Yes,
it goes for a bit, but then some of the
other bowlers it's well it will And I think, as
you I may have said, Brian, it does seem to
be a batter's tournament somewhat, so everyone's going to go.
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But do you think wickets is going to be critical?
And I think if we're going to be we're going
to be in Sri Lanka, then it would be puzzling
if Sodi does not play.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, a couple of points just quickly about the bowling.
I think we should bowl a few more Yorkers, or
try them or work at them. Because we saw Nism
get an lbw right at the end last night. We
saw Duffy get away with a couple of Yorkers in
his last over, the twentieth over. I think as long
as it's straight, the line of it is straight and
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at the stumps and not wide of the stumps, it's
not a bad ball. Even if it's a low full toss,
not a bit, it generally only goes for one or
two as long as they can't get underneath it. The
other thing we seem to bowl is a lot of
short balls.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Don't we.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
All the guys are bowling, but I think with that
pace that I've talked about, it's too short, and they
often make it a slow bouncer as well. So I
just feel when we bowl too short, I just think
with the lack of pace that they are supplying and
they're making it a slower delivery, the element of surprise
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which a slower ball is supposed to do is lost
because a batsman can adjust and they have time to
therefore change their shots slightly. And a ball coming down,
if it's coming down rather than you know it's already
reached its height from a bouncer and is coming back
down again, that can still be hit. You can get
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underneath that and still hit that hard. So I think
we're bowling when we bowl short. We bowl too short. Okay,
So that's I guess my points there, and I just
hope Srilanka office has a bit more movement and a
bit more variable bounce and a bit of same we might.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Be all right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Brian Waddle, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
The White Fans have new skipper, as was always going
to happen. Then Sophie Devine called it quits and it's
no surprise. It's congratulations really, Kurt.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, thank you. It's very very special. I think, you know,
as a kid wanting to grow up and play for
New Zealand, and a lot of kids in New Zealand
want to represent whatever sport they love for New Zealand
and so to be able to do that and then
to be able to captain it's something that not many.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
People get to do.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
So yeah, it's very very special and a huge privilege.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I think I've been fortunate enough to have had some
experience with the White Ferns and a couple of well
a couple of games with the White Ferns and for
Wellington here at the basin. So I think for me,
I've just got great people around me to learn from.
We've still got leaders within the White Ferns, Sophie and
Susie who have kept in the side, and it's just
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about I guess, still being myself and learning and growing.
And for me, I guess the key is getting the
best out of the people around you, and through that,
I think I'm an encourager and want to build belief
in people and help people get the best out of themselves,
both on and off the field. I think when I
was a kid, I always had the dream to play
for New Zealand and keptain the side. One day I
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think I wrote it in a little notebook when I
was really young, and yeah, I think just making the
White Ferns first and playing I just wanted to enjoy
my cricket. And I think now it's come at a
really nice time. I think if it came any earlier,
it wouldn't have been the right time in my career.
And I'm still young and want to play for New
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Zealand for a long time and want to wanted to
make sure I'm really ready when I did take on.
This role is a big job and it's not something
I take lightly, so I'm excited. They'll obviously be nerves
because it is a big job, but most of all
just excited and know that I have great people around
me to help that I can lean on in times
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when it's tough.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
It seems a little strange to think of care at
age twenty five has been a white firm for ten
years now.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
My debut was out at Lincoln University on a live
stream with about ten people there, which was probably all
my family.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
So to think of the game back then.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
To where it is now and the opportunities to support
the crowds, how much more professional it is. And that's
only in my teen year curiosity think of I think
of the people I play alongside, like Susie who's been
around a whole lot longer, and.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You know they've paved the way.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
The people before us have paved the way for us
to be standing here now getting to live out our
dream and for our dream to be our job. It's
pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How do you describe your captaincy approach?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
For me, it's all about the people, and one of
my favorite quotes is the hit tungitar, hit tungait hit tunga,
And for me, I guess we're people first. I think
it's also about who we represent, being from New Zealand,
we always punch above our weight and your represent in
our whole country as well. And for me, I think
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again it's getting the best out of people. I think
feeling a sense of belonging and feeling valued helps people
strive towards something greater than themselves as well. And again
being a small country, I just guess there's so much
talent in our group and that's what excites me and
if we can stick to I guess a strengths based
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approach and a lot of the stuff I think has
been said before by Sophie.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
And it's continuing on.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
The legacy she's built, and then I guess adding my
own twist to it. Over the last few years, you've
seen you know, the likes of India takeoff and different
teams around the world, and I know that their resources
and there's leagues around the world that they get access
to and get to play in a lot. But I
think the investment we've had from New Zealand Cricket over
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the last few years with the A program, the development
of Super Smash, I think there's so much talent in
New Zealand and people are working really hard. It's some
of the hardest workers I've seen in cricket being in
this environment, and I think if you look at the
average age of our group, we're all pretty young. And
that's what excites me is that you know, over the
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next five to ten years we're going to be able
to build something pretty special with a core group that
are only going to keep getting better. And that's exciting
that you know, we're not near our full potential, but
we've got people who are willing to do everything to
reach that.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You're one of the few white fans with franchise group experience.
Would it be good to have more players qualifying?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, I would love to see more white fans playing
in franchise comps. And I think, you know, after the
T twenty World Cup win, seeing different players and the
white fans step up and perform, I thought there was
an opportunity for more white fans to get a chance
to go play in those leagues. And I think the
first step is, you know, playing for New Zealand representing
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New Zealand, and if we can be successful as a
group and individuals, then are successful. If we compete and
you start creating a winning environment, that's only going to
help people get I guess extra call ups in other leagues,
but yeah, the number one priority is putting the New
Zealand shirt on and performing for them. At the moment
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it's been the franchise stuff is all pretty much based
around international cricket, so it hasn't impacted I guess, like
the men's game yet, but I'm sure within time it's
only going to get busier and busier. So I think
for me again, number one priority is playing for New Zealand.
That's why I'm contracted to and it's about making sure
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I'm the best prepared as I can be to play
for New Zealand. And sometimes that's going to be going
and playing franchise comps because you get game time, you
get a train and play with world class cricketers. But
sometimes it's going to mean that I have to turn
things down and stay at home to train if I
think a training block better. And that's something I've done
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throughout my whole career and so that doesn't change too
much as my priority has always been New Zealand's and
again it's each year just balancing out what's going to
be best time at home or playing cricket.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like Finnish coach has Ben Sawyer, who joins on the
front foot, and Ben, I imagine the choice of Merely
Kerr wasn't a hard one for it.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
It's been something that we've been obviously speaking about internally
for a long time. You know, we knew for a
while we saw exactly the steps that Sophie was going
to take in terms of stepping down. So yeah, we've
been having these chats with Merely, yeah, for quite a
while now. So yeah, for us, she's a standout candidate
and yeah, really looking forward personally to getting to work
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with hers as captain and coach. So you know, I'm
excited for it as well.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I guess it's a sort of long term thing,
but it's it's not a single appointment. Is that you
have a senior leadership group, I suppose as well.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yeah, we and even that we've been talking about that
and and potentially how that might change with Merely's appointment,
So even discussing things like maybe having a younger leadership group,
like you said, to look into the future. So yeah,
this was the first step of that. But yeah, the
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leadership group we have at the moment will be there
to support Merely and how that may change in the
next twelve months though, is something that we are chatting about.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, I suppose that decision was made before she scored
one hundred over the weekend as well, so that just
sort of added to the selection to it.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
Yeah, look, obviously, I think it's really important Number one
for your captain to probably be someone that's you know,
almost guaranteed selection every time, and that's the number. You know,
A huge quality of Merees is that you know just
how good a player she is, and she's outstanding with
both bat and ball, and he's going to be a
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huge part of our team even without the captaincy. So yeah,
things like she did on the weekend where she got
another hundred just just cements that as well.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Are you ever concerned that when somebody is appointed captain
officially like that is somebody of great skill, that it
might detract a little bit from their game or does
she have the balance in her game that will cover
any possible you know, drop and form or something along
those lines.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
No, I completely understand what you're saying. Yeah, not not
that I'm concerned about it, but definitely, yeah, you do
think about it because it is a it is a
huge added I guess pressure but yeah, I think Merely
and the chats that we've had is really excited for
the opportunity. So look, I don't think it, you know,
will detract from her game in any way. But that's
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again to your point about like a leadership group and
how we could potentially take some of the pressures, especially
those off the field, maybe off a new cap and
to play. It's been really easy for me with Sophie
as the captain and just how good a job she's
done with that. But I would assume that when Sophie
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started as well, she probably wasn't the leader she was
at the end of her time, and that's something that
we've got to help merely with as well, you know,
particularly in that first probably twelve months, is just help
her out with navigating all the extra responsibilities that she has.
But to your point, that's part of the leadership's group
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job as well and staff.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
To give her that assistance.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Does a signal a likely change in approach from you
and the team or will you continue on the way
you've been developing over the last.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
To two or three years.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
I don't think it signals any change. No, she's got
a few she already told me A few things that
she wants in the team in terms of lineups and
potentially what we might take into the T twenty World Cup,
mainly around like number of frontline bowlers and things like that.
So she's got definite, I guess, opinions on the team
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that she wants to lead. But it's not I guess
deferring too much from how we've played in the in
the last twelve or eight months.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You've got messages coming up both T twity and Odie Eyes.
Have you been encouraged with the quality and the form
of players that you're likely to select for that?
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Yeah, I think from memory, I think in terms of
the Super Smash at the final point there, I think
it was white the top five batters were all White
Ferns or had played for the White Ferns in the
last eighty months, So that's probably something that, yeah, we
haven't quite done in the last few years, but I
think a number of our batters stood up really enjoying. Yeah,
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and the way that a number of our quicks in
particular bowl during that Super Smash I thought was impressive.
So yeah, I'm very much excited about what Super Smash
did and and I think the scores were elevated and
and that hopefully well will tie into and lead into
a really I guess aggressive way of playing the next
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two series.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, I guess it's a challenging time coming up as
well too, because if you look back on recent form,
you want to achieve a lot more consistency from the
team it both forms of the game, don't you.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
Yeah, and that's I guess the next step. And you
spoke about it before, like you know, we have been
developing this team, and now I think we're at a
point where a number of those younger players have now
had quite a few games, and that's our challenge is
to now be more consistent. We've understood that, you know
(30:55):
in the I guess since my time here that maybe
that consistency was was something that was difficult to achieve.
A number of young players find their feed in international cricket.
But yeah, those players have been given a number of
opportunities now and yeah, to be more consistent on the
world stage is something that we're all striving for.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
I'm not wanting you to give away any names at
the moment, but are there any younger or is there
any sign of more youth coming to the forefront for
your selection of your team or squad that's coming up.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
Yeah, there will be a couple of new players and those, yeah,
a couple of younger players, especially against for that series
against Zimbabwe. So yeah, I don't think that's been released,
Eddie will tell me, but yeah, yeah, but there will
be a few new names in there.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
And then of course there's a South African visit later
in the well the next month.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, and I see that really as I guess
Zimbabwe gives us an opportunity to look at a few
players and then for me, South Africa is that last
real hit out before we go to the World Cup
against you know, a team that I think has made
the finals the last three World Cups, obviously in the
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ODI World Cup as well, So they're an extremely strong
team at the moment. They're playing great cricket, people like
Nadana Clerk you know, killed it during the WPL as well,
So they're a really strong outfit and will really give us,
you know, a real good test leading into that World Cup,
which hopefully, yeah, reflects what happened to the last World
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Cup where we had some really tough cricket leading in
against England. So we're going to have South Africa and
then we head over to England before the World Cup.
So against two world class nations. I think it's a
really good prep for the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
So that's the reaction of Ben Sewer, coach of the
White fans. Firstly, the choice of Amelia Ker hands up
those who would have had anybody else. The hands stayed down.
Easy meeting, not a hard job. Ben Sewer makes a
lot of points. Obviously he was the power behind the decision.
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The point I take out of what he says and
he acknowledges it readily. And we've talked black and blue
about this, Jerry, I know, and most we've had, at
odd times consistency from that team. You're not going to
win every game, you're not going to be the World
champions every day of the week while you're a developing side.
But you've got to look for consistency of performance. And
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even if you lose that, consistency is still going to
come to the Ford, isn't.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
It, Ben Sawyer. Okay, so he's an absent coach. He's
not in New Zealand now as he was.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
No, he comes to and from because he does big
best teams and I think he does IPL teams and
women's IPL right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
So he's the heads off to do franchise work elsewhere
and then he comes back when it's required for New Zealand.
Who was looking after? Who's responsible for developing? Because we
are in a developed phase, aren't we. Surely there are
some players who have played there for a long time
who have now retired. There are some players who have
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been there for a long time who may be retained
because there are not the other players coming through that
you might hope for. Is that fair comment?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yep, no argument there most would.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You agree with that? Well?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
I would? I would.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
So where where is the coach, the main coach to
provide the leadership for this development phase? He's away at
the moment doing franchises, right, I'm assuming someone else will
be taking is placed or do you know performing that role?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Probably the domestic coaches were their various teams.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Firstly, is so clearly the obvious choice. I have some
I have some concerns and sympathy for her to be
taking this on because players who have been fantastic for
the for the women's game in New Zealand are departing
(35:23):
or were about to depart and she's going to be
left with a pretty a pretty inexperienced and largely underperformed
group of people, which seems to me to be a
very tough job, and a lot will be placed on
the one person. Albeit there there are some other decent players,
(35:44):
whose sister included, but it's not going to be a
strong side, and there seems to be unrealistic expectations about
how the New Zealand women's cricket team is going to perform,
because I don't think they're that strong and I don't
think there is the depth there based purely on results
of recent times, but also when you take out the
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couple of the older players who are going to be retiring,
I think it's going to be a very tough job,
which it will be will be very difficult for still
a very young person. And I think Brian, as you
pointed out, it's hard to believe that she's been playing
cricket for New Zealand for ten years. Yeah, and do
(36:30):
well that makes her what fo twenty five? I mean
twenty five? I mean that in itself. I mean you're
still a very young person and you're taking a lot
on and she's already had a challenge, as we're quite understandable.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
But I.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Wish her well. She's a fabulous player, seems a wonderful
person as well, just as an individual putting cricket to
one side. But by god, it's going to be a
tough gig and you're going to need as you rightly
point out, Jerry, you need that support around you. And
I wasn't aware of that situation with the coach, which
is a start contrast to the Mets coach. I don't
(37:11):
think Walter's a part time guy, So why the difference
is it? I no, that won't ever know. But I
think I wish them well, but I don't have great expectations.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
No, I think that's a very fair, very fair summation Moose.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
We'll have a look and see what they pick in
terms of the squad which is due to be announced
soon for the series against them Babwe. But yeah, you're right, Moose,
it's going to be tough road ahead because they've got
a World Cup in the middle of the year. On coaching,
should we could be concerned that another New Zealand coach
is hitting over seas. Peter Fulton off to Middlesex a
(37:55):
three year deal, not the fact that he's going. But
as he points out here, he wasn't even interviewed for
the black Caps role.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
It comes to John. I'd love to coach John. But yeah,
as as I found out when I suppose the Black
Chats job was up sort of during the middle of
the winter, just because you want something doesn't doesn't mean
that that's necessarily going to happen. So I didn't get
a I didn't get an interview for that for the
job then, So I suppose that was probably about the
time I started to sort of think, well, you know,
(38:27):
if I couldn't couldn't get an interview, then I suppose
I'm going to do what's do what's best for me
and my family, and and like I said, hopefully at
some point down down the track that might become an
option against.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
I heard that yesterday that Fulton wasn't included in the
in the group just remind me of here. But I
think Canterbury has been pretty successful, haven't they. They've certainly
developed a lot of very good players who seem to
be making their way through to New Zealand A and
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the and the New Zealand team the black Caps. Understanding
that he did, he wasn't included because thought he has
a credentials, not least of which I think he was
also the batting catch coach at one point. So either
they had done a New Zealand Rugby thing which had
already pointed that the coach and just went through a
charade of a of a of a selection process, which
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I doubt that would ever happen, would it in New
Zealand sport? But but I think, But then isn't it
interesting that he goes on to get a head coach
job at the proverbial home of cricket at Middlesex. I mean,
that's that's a that's a pretty plumb job. I would
(39:45):
have fought a fantastic one. So I applaud him, and
he's obviously said, well, I'm not going to be around
for a while, so I'm not gonna be need it
for a while, so I'm going and that's his that's
his career. So good on him, but it leaves a
few question marks, really.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Waded how long has he been a first first class
coach for Canterbury.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Well, he took the job after he left the batting
coaches role with the Black Caps, so three, three, four
years something like that when.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
He took that role on, right, So he took that
role on.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
He's been batting coach for the Black Caps as well.
He is presumably the head coach at Canterbury now, is
that correct?
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Yep?
Speaker 7 (40:31):
So he organizes the bowling coaches and the batting coaches
and so on as an overseer does he I'm assuming
also he does a bit of the batting as well.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Oh yeah, he's got support coaches. I think Brendan Donkers
is the bowling Yeah, so he's got he's got support there,
but you know, he runs the cutter.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
So what we're talking about the coaches around New Zealand.
I guess Shane Jurgensen is Did he get an interview?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Odds?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Not sure.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I'm not sure who got interviews. That's why I was
supprised that Fulton didn't.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
So yeah, so he's off to Middlesex for three years.
I'm guessing they are in the second division now. They
have been just easing their way down in the championship
in England. They for such a large and wealthy county,
so that's a bit of a that's going to be
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a challenge for him and probably a very good one.
He'll come back with a lot more experience, a lot
of a vast amount of hearing different people's views. They
see the game slightly differently in England than we do here,
and so he will come back and he'll certainly gain
as a coach if that's what he's interested in doing.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
If he can. If he one survives and hopefully prospers,
and I really hope he does. What I do think
is very good if one he gets out of the
New Zealand bubble, it's very important to do that, but
importantly get out of the Canterbury bubble. I don't want
to be too critical, but I'm sure they do speak
to each other a lot down there and believe their
(42:15):
own numb own version of the world. Being unkind of course,
but no, but I think that going over there, and
also he's going to have to deal with a different
type of person, there'll be politics that he has to
sort of manage and understand. So if he does get
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there and prospers, and I really hope he does, because
it will be good for the New Zealand cricket. Assuming
he returns, then he's certainly going to come back. I
really find a fine coach and would all go well
for New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
That's the thing that coaches have always tried to do.
Have then they get a bit of overseas experience and
then come back here and hopefully that might well be
the case.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
I would just I'm sure he was disappointed once that
he don't get a crack, or at least that they
had a chat to him to acknowledge the work that
he's done.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Quick finished. This week, forty eight years ago, I went
over England at the base in reserves.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
The drama started very early when I think I bowled
the first ball of the match to John Wright, which
he edged in front of second slip and Bob Taylor
took a magnificent diving catch to his left, but the
umpire was unmoved and John Wright went on to battle
day which proved a very valuable innings.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, then comes Collins now running into Bold to Boycott
and falling.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
They keep up.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
The scene a match. The crowd is unbelievable. The scene
out in the middle is up to vlation. Colline has
bowld Jeffrey Boycott a bore well tossed up moving in.
Speaker 11 (44:00):
Boycott over the top of it. Concentration, you might say,
almost lacking and it was through his defenses and wreck
of thumb England the two for one Boycot out Bold
Collins for one.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Evenly contested, and even being evenly contested. Now as incomes
Richard Handy running into Bold. To Edmondson, this will of
carry the firstlip.
Speaker 11 (44:26):
There's an a power.
Speaker 9 (44:29):
Part of the cat in those words, it's outside the
off stump and.
Speaker 11 (44:33):
Well skills, a thought set, and we fought by a power.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Quick comment, Jerry, you were there when watching on the beach.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
I was watching with the New Zealand selector of the time,
Frank Cameron, and he took me by the I felt
there's pressure beside me on my arm, and he took
me around to the end and we watched Richard Hadley
take those wickets in the in the fourth innings, and
he was more much more excited than I was.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I was.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
I had a measure of disappointment that I wasn't there,
but I put it to one side stoically, and then.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, we watched New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (45:18):
Well, of course mainly KLINGI wasn't it running from the
far end and getting Boycott out early on? And I thought, wow,
this is on, this is on, and the crowd, which
was fairly small at the start, you know, a mediocre
crowd for the basin days when the old bank was there,
(45:38):
you know, and you changed in the old changing rooms
and you sat up on the sat up on the
hill waiting.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
To go in. Yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
Suddenly the crowd, I mean Willington react quite quickly to
those sort of situations, and officers were cleared and they
arrived and people running you could see them with their
ties floating behind them, running up Cape rich Terrace.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Forty people said they were there that day. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,
most quickly.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
It was a bit of a shame that finished the
next day, didn't it? In the in the in the morning,
But never mind. A very exciting session of New Zealand
history there.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
I will always remember Richard Collins nailing Jeff Boycott LBW
and yes, and then I left the halls of academia
at Victoria University to scurry down there, and I too
was there, and so yeah, memorable, memorable and bloody good
day for New Zealand cricket. It was.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
That's how old we are now. It was forty eight
years ago and we were all there enjoying it. I
understand that Parks. It was a tea. Tayler even had
a little champagne, I'm told after that game, So that
that was an interesting story that came out of the
coverage of that event. This weekend, We've.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Got it was lemonade.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Don't worry that that. It looks the same as far
as Parks is concerned.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
That's good. Oh well, that's got.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
He took a catch actually, even though it bobbled.
Speaker 9 (47:18):
And he did.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Right, we're bad.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
We're about to go, guys.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
We've got the Ford Trophy and Heli and.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
Johnson and I'll be at the basement watching good Boy Cheers,
Good summer.
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who it is? Rain and Zimbabwe jumped the Aussies out
of the Super Age. Well, I've got Peter Holland and
Jeremy Coney with me. As ever, and the socials, I
guess would have been setting fire to the internet across
the Tasman going to make Jerry Jim Maxwell, ABC commentator
(01:28):
who Bleeds Screen and Keratana Yellow had this to say,
what are shambles? They did lose three out of three
against Pakistan, So what do you expect from an out
of form, wounded, disabled, understrength, overplayed lesser team. Why does
(01:48):
he say what he means?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Well, that's Jim, isn't it. I mean he likes to
he doesn't hold back. I've noticed on a number of
issues and that's obviously the one that's close to his
heart at the moment. It's quite unusual to see them
not making well is it? Did they not make? I
mean they didn't make some other ones in the tea twenties.
I mean Australia have missed out before and.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They've been beaten by Zimbabwe twice two from two of
the T twenty competition. Peter Hollen very happily dressed in
we'll call it gold, obviously in sympathy with our brothers
across the Tasman.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Despite the fact that they are definitely undermanned as it
were a missing a number of players. But we did
raise it in last week's podcast, Absent Smith, who can't
help but think and he may not be my most
favorite player, but my god, can he play. But you
(02:53):
can't but think that in those conditions back when they
were playing Zimbabwe, I don't think they'd have lost that game. Look,
this is all great twenty twenty hindsight, but the fact
that he wasn't there and I can understand why why
they thought they had enough there be because they had
They've got considerable depth. But if they're not in form
the well clear they haven't because they're not in there.
(03:16):
They no good point. I think they missed marsh very much.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh yes, they did at the start.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
Very very much missed him. And you take that sort
of stability out out of a side and then it's
sort of being run by Maxwell who was a freakish talent.
Stoin Us on their day are fine, but you wouldn't
say you can lock it down. And they all, like
Smith would Travis Head can win a game for you,
(03:46):
but really didn't buy it. So they all the stuff
that they had got to win it, and my god,
they should have got through the pool. I mean that
is just yeah, but that's the nature of twenty twenty cricket.
And then Zimbabwe I think, well, hey, they're going to
go through wonderful.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, that's through yah and Smith has actually been added
to the squad. Their replacement for Hazelwood. So I guess
he's going to go off his long run.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Yeah, he'll be nipping it back, and I mean he
would certainly. I mean Australia seem to load themselves with
these kind of one dimensional twenty players. You know, the
hard hit is the power hitters, they call them, don't they,
you know, Tim David, those sorts of players, and that
may have worked in India and in Chennai that we've
(04:32):
been watching a bit and Indian other Indian venues where
the pictures haven't done a lot. The Sri Lanka is
a bit different, you know, especially the two Colombo venues,
that it's harder to hit through lenks. You can't really,
I mean more batsmanship is required sometimes on those surfaces
(04:53):
and planting your foot and hitting through the line is
no longer possible. And so that's where they've gotten a
bit of trouble with their batting. Their top order has
failed with English and Head, and then you've they tried
to manufacture Green into a number three and then number four.
They've tried Tim David and they've all basically not quite
(05:15):
done the job, and so it's been left to others
to you know, the guys like Renshaw, who they haven't
played that much cone to try and pick up the
pieces and it just seemed to me that was one
of their issues. The other one is they're not taking wickets.
They're a bit like New Zealand in that sense. Two
(05:36):
wickets against Zimbabwe Brian Bennett Opener anchored the whole innings.
He was not out at the end and you know
he had little sort of flyers around him. Burl got
a few, Secundaraza got a few, the other guy as
well at the top getting twenties and thirties and they
(05:57):
only got to one hundred and sixty nine. But it
was enough, you know, because then the bowler is it
Mazrabarni or something, he just the big tall guy from Barbwe.
He got about three two or three early wickets. And
also the other guy too, I mean he got a
couple as well. So but then Sri Lanka, I mean
(06:19):
they really put them to the store, didn't they. For
a quarter of the game of Australia, a quarter of
the game, they were looking like they were going to
get in, you know, an excess of two hundreds. But
then as soon as marsh and Head that were dismissed.
They lost wickets immediately, so that's been an issue that
(06:41):
the batting has been an issue, and also the Hazelwood injury.
I mean he gets wickets in the powerplay. That's when
you want wickets. You put teams behind yourself in a tea,
you know, behind in a T Twentydaus just wasn't picked.
He's another one who's got a few wickets. So they
were exposed I think in powerplay bowling. Remember Conway and
(07:02):
Finellen did it to them in twenty twenty two. Remember
over there in Assi Berbars and Ibrahim did it to
them as well. Rot Sharma did it to them in
twenty twenty four. So and I think Stark was dropped
after that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I would have.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Thought one of the point you have mentioned moose Smith
would have made a difference because he would have he
would have seen the conditions on the day from the surface,
he would have seen the game situation, and he would
have made himself appropriate to those two things. These are
the shots I can play, these are the bats, these
are the bowlers I'll attack. And Rensure, I think is
(07:39):
the other one. So there's been some selection issues as well.
So power hitting, power no power play bowling, and I
think also selection issues.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Yeah, on the on the Wrenshoal point, he's an interesting
one because he's been informant pretty much all of the
versions of cricket in Australia and was the one who
looked half decent and it would look like getting them
through against him by way, But they don't seem to
know what to do with them. But he's looked, he's
looked one of their better players, but they seem reluctant
(08:10):
to sort of stay and stick with them, whereas Green,
who I hope does well but just can't seem to
get it together these days. So they've they've had out
of form, They've they've lost really critical players such as Hazwold.
Does you point out Jerry and then and then they
didn't peck people who would have got them through it.
And I agree with you absolutely. Playing in Sri Lanka
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is a very different proposition that it is playing in
some of the better, shall we say, conditions of India
that seem to be apparent to me anyway, And you'd
know that's far better than I would. But I think
you know, if the bulk of their games are going
to be in strie lanked. Surely you were taking that
into a point because Benners is the slower decks. It's
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it's the ability that actually to adjust your play was key,
rather than just as you say, those ones who just
to go go out and go hard and smash it.
That ain't going that's not gonna work in and so
it's proven.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
To be there, not all the time.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Anyway, I think that team would go quite well if
you put them in England, if you put them in
New Zealand, if you put them in Australia, and maybe
even South Africa, maybe even slightly to a lesser extent,
but places where the ball is quick and where it's
more bounce, which is not like Sri Lanka, you know
the pictures there are slightly more crumbly, there's more gaps
(09:36):
and so water gets into them. So therefore they're a
little bit more slow and they and then they start
to grip a little bit as well. So I just
think just a few little errors. They also didn't they
prioritize the BBL finals ahead of a few sort of
build up warm up games, which has certainly helped New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, the Ozzies can get their passports out now give
them to the manager. They can go to the departure.
Loungs bang, thank you for coming, go home and enjoy
coming outside. I had the top eight at the Tea
Tritty World Cup. Speaking of Sri Lanka, the black Caps
are going to be playing there. I think they've had
a pretty good warm up. They've finished where we predicted.
(10:20):
They lost to the South Africans. Have they got the
confidence to make it to the last four. It's going
to be tough, but you know, a good positive win
over the Canadians. The batting was strong. Good to see
Ravendra Beck Phillips is dynamic. But I still have reservations
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about our bowling attack. As you said earlier, Jerry.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, the best part of the night for me was
watching Revendra start his innings, not flicking, not looking to
sunk from ball one. You know, if Allen or Cipher
there going to obviously one of those two will be
there when he goes in. You need to have a
thoughtful player. You need to have someone like the smith
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Witch talking about don't you yes, be aggressive when required
because you can't sit back for too long. But there
is time to spend say eight balls, getting to ten
or twelve, isn't there. I just feel Ratchen has been
a little bit hyper throughout the matches and in Sri
Lanka where batsmanship is going to be needed, and particularly
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in Colombo. Palakelli, which is near Candy looks a little
better surface.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But I do agree with you.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I think the bowling is for New Zealand is a
bit of a concern.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I know the two better bowlers, Santna whose sides actually,
it seems to me, have milked a lot more. He's
only got one wicket in the twelve overs he's bowled
and three overs and three matches and Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Four wickets, our highest wicket taker.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
I think at the moment maybe he's only played three
matches now, but at least he's one with a bit
of pace and he's got that slower leg roller that
comes out, and he can also bowl around the wicket
a bit more.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Seen him do that much before.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
So the New Zealand attack, while it was diminished to
have Nichum bowling in the power play, says we aren't
the strong A strong side, I'd have to say with
the ball and you know we've all arrested the bowlers.
I don't know what you guys think, but Duffy Henry
Jamison are all about one thirty to one thirty six perhaps,
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and it gets too similar, you know. And then we
had Phillips and McConkie. So really it wasn't a strong
attack I thought for a Canadian side. While the joapner
Samra was got you know, he batted well, batter hit
the ball cleanly, always went to the leg side to
open up the off. We need to be better than
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that because we will get at some point, guys. It
already has happened, hasn't it against South Africa. We'll get hammered.
We'll get hammered. How we've done that, how we have
actually got there. We've had good little periods of overs,
two or three of them here, and another one there
and another two there, and it's kept the score down
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under two hundred. I don't know how you feel about that,
but I think we simply just don't take wickets. We
wait for people to get themselves out. We could have
taken forty potential wickets in four games. We've taken less
than half seventeen. We don't get wickets in the power play.
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We've had four in the powerplay so won a match
overs seven to twelve. We've taken three wickets over the
four matches so far. That's point seven five between those
overs seven and twelve. In the game between overs thirteen
and eighteen, as sides attack more, we've taken more wickets.
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We've taken six. So that's one point five per match
on average. So between all that you add those up,
it actually means that New Zealand by the eighteenth over
or the end of it and three point two five wickets.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's not much, is it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
And Jerry, this has been against Putting putting in South
Africa side and they flogged us, let's not forget. And
that was very comfortable win by them. But against the
lesser so called lesser sides, they haven't looked at troubled
against our bowls and and that's the thing that strikes me.
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Can I also add in there the filming has been
a little bit abs not so flash either, you know,
drop catch or two yesterday yeap, not hard. I would
have expected better. But it's really is this apparent ease
with which should we say, those lesser teams so called
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are playing us, and yes we've been able to keep
them down to the sort of one seventies one eighties
and then go out and and and and smack them around.
But against those better sides in the South Africa particular,
those are the two things which I would concern me
more than say West Indies in England based on their
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current form.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Have we sacrificed Have we sacrificed a bowler for an
extra power hitter? I mean the top six, there's someone
there that can do the business and all and have
done a little bit here and there. Do we need
a bowling all round or yet another bowler or do
we just not have the bowling resources that you know
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make the difference the likes of Mazaraba.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Just someone might make. Have we got another spinner? Or
should they be playing Sody? Will they play Sody in
Sri Lanka? Fellas to me, that's where.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
You well, if you're not playing them there, then why
did you take him?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Well, then why haven't they played him against Canada? It
looks to me as if they, I mean, we're clearly
missing Bracewell or some other things. If they value a
finger spinner more than the than the wrist spin of Sody,
we ain't got it.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Sody is a bit like Ferguson to a certain extent,
a wicket taker can be expensive but does take wickets.
And without Ferguson, of course we didn't take that wicket.
He's back at home on maternity leave, which is justified.
Hopefully he's back for the next game that New Zealand play.
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But Sody at least does take wickets. He's our top
wicket taker, isn't he.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
The reluctance of not not not not the plan. Yes,
it goes for a bit, but then some of the
other bowlers it's well it will And I think, as
you I may have said, Brian, it does seem to
be a batter's tournament somewhat, so everyone's going to go.
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But do you think wickets is going to be critical?
And I think if we're going to be we're going
to be in Sri Lanka, then it would be puzzling
if Sodi does not play.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, a couple of points just quickly about the bowling.
I think we should bowl a few more Yorkers, or
try them or work at them. Because we saw Nism
get an lbw right at the end last night. We
saw Duffy get away with a couple of Yorkers in
his last over, the twentieth over. I think as long
as it's straight, the line of it is straight and
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at the stumps and not wide of the stumps, it's
not a bad ball. Even if it's a low full toss,
not a bit, it generally only goes for one or
two as long as they can't get underneath it. The
other thing we seem to bowl is a lot of
short balls.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Don't we.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
All the guys are bowling, but I think with that
pace that I've talked about, it's too short, and they
often make it a slow bouncer as well. So I
just feel when we bowl too short, I just think
with the lack of pace that they are supplying and
they're making it a slower delivery, the element of surprise
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which a slower ball is supposed to do is lost
because a batsman can adjust and they have time to
therefore change their shots slightly. And a ball coming down,
if it's coming down rather than you know it's already
reached its height from a bouncer and is coming back
down again, that can still be hit. You can get
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underneath that and still hit that hard. So I think
we're bowling when we bowl short. We bowl too short. Okay,
So that's I guess my points there, and I just
hope Srilanka office has a bit more movement and a
bit more variable bounce and a bit of same we might.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Be all right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Brian Waddle, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
The White Fans have new skipper, as was always going
to happen. Then Sophie Devine called it quits and it's
no surprise. It's congratulations really, Kurt.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, thank you. It's very very special. I think, you know,
as a kid wanting to grow up and play for
New Zealand, and a lot of kids in New Zealand
want to represent whatever sport they love for New Zealand
and so to be able to do that and then
to be able to captain it's something that not many.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
People get to do.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
So yeah, it's very very special and a huge privilege.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I think I've been fortunate enough to have had some
experience with the White Ferns and a couple of well
a couple of games with the White Ferns and for
Wellington here at the basin. So I think for me,
I've just got great people around me to learn from.
We've still got leaders within the White Ferns, Sophie and
Susie who have kept in the side, and it's just
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about I guess, still being myself and learning and growing.
And for me, I guess the key is getting the
best out of the people around you, and through that,
I think I'm an encourager and want to build belief
in people and help people get the best out of themselves,
both on and off the field. I think when I
was a kid, I always had the dream to play
for New Zealand and keptain the side. One day I
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think I wrote it in a little notebook when I
was really young, and yeah, I think just making the
White Ferns first and playing I just wanted to enjoy
my cricket. And I think now it's come at a
really nice time. I think if it came any earlier,
it wouldn't have been the right time in my career.
And I'm still young and want to play for New
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Zealand for a long time and want to wanted to
make sure I'm really ready when I did take on.
This role is a big job and it's not something
I take lightly, so I'm excited. They'll obviously be nerves
because it is a big job, but most of all
just excited and know that I have great people around
me to help that I can lean on in times
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when it's tough.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
It seems a little strange to think of care at
age twenty five has been a white firm for ten
years now.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
My debut was out at Lincoln University on a live
stream with about ten people there, which was probably all
my family.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
So to think of the game back then.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
To where it is now and the opportunities to support
the crowds, how much more professional it is. And that's
only in my teen year curiosity think of I think
of the people I play alongside, like Susie who's been
around a whole lot longer, and.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You know they've paved the way.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
The people before us have paved the way for us
to be standing here now getting to live out our
dream and for our dream to be our job. It's
pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How do you describe your captaincy approach?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
For me, it's all about the people, and one of
my favorite quotes is the hit tungitar, hit tungait hit tunga,
And for me, I guess we're people first. I think
it's also about who we represent, being from New Zealand,
we always punch above our weight and your represent in
our whole country as well. And for me, I think
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again it's getting the best out of people. I think
feeling a sense of belonging and feeling valued helps people
strive towards something greater than themselves as well. And again
being a small country, I just guess there's so much
talent in our group and that's what excites me and
if we can stick to I guess a strengths based
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approach and a lot of the stuff I think has
been said before by Sophie.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
And it's continuing on.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
The legacy she's built, and then I guess adding my
own twist to it. Over the last few years, you've
seen you know, the likes of India takeoff and different
teams around the world, and I know that their resources
and there's leagues around the world that they get access
to and get to play in a lot. But I
think the investment we've had from New Zealand Cricket over
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the last few years with the A program, the development
of Super Smash, I think there's so much talent in
New Zealand and people are working really hard. It's some
of the hardest workers I've seen in cricket being in
this environment, and I think if you look at the
average age of our group, we're all pretty young. And
that's what excites me is that you know, over the
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next five to ten years we're going to be able
to build something pretty special with a core group that
are only going to keep getting better. And that's exciting
that you know, we're not near our full potential, but
we've got people who are willing to do everything to
reach that.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You're one of the few white fans with franchise group experience.
Would it be good to have more players qualifying?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, I would love to see more white fans playing
in franchise comps. And I think, you know, after the
T twenty World Cup win, seeing different players and the
white fans step up and perform, I thought there was
an opportunity for more white fans to get a chance
to go play in those leagues. And I think the
first step is, you know, playing for New Zealand representing
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New Zealand, and if we can be successful as a
group and individuals, then are successful. If we compete and
you start creating a winning environment, that's only going to
help people get I guess extra call ups in other leagues,
but yeah, the number one priority is putting the New
Zealand shirt on and performing for them. At the moment
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it's been the franchise stuff is all pretty much based
around international cricket, so it hasn't impacted I guess, like
the men's game yet, but I'm sure within time it's
only going to get busier and busier. So I think
for me again, number one priority is playing for New Zealand.
That's why I'm contracted to and it's about making sure
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I'm the best prepared as I can be to play
for New Zealand. And sometimes that's going to be going
and playing franchise comps because you get game time, you
get a train and play with world class cricketers. But
sometimes it's going to mean that I have to turn
things down and stay at home to train if I
think a training block better. And that's something I've done
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throughout my whole career and so that doesn't change too
much as my priority has always been New Zealand's and
again it's each year just balancing out what's going to
be best time at home or playing cricket.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like Finnish coach has Ben Sawyer, who joins on the
front foot, and Ben, I imagine the choice of Merely
Kerr wasn't a hard one for it.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
It's been something that we've been obviously speaking about internally
for a long time. You know, we knew for a
while we saw exactly the steps that Sophie was going
to take in terms of stepping down. So yeah, we've
been having these chats with Merely, yeah, for quite a
while now. So yeah, for us, she's a standout candidate
and yeah, really looking forward personally to getting to work
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with hers as captain and coach. So you know, I'm
excited for it as well.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I guess it's a sort of long term thing,
but it's it's not a single appointment. Is that you
have a senior leadership group, I suppose as well.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yeah, we and even that we've been talking about that
and and potentially how that might change with Merely's appointment,
So even discussing things like maybe having a younger leadership group,
like you said, to look into the future. So yeah,
this was the first step of that. But yeah, the
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leadership group we have at the moment will be there
to support Merely and how that may change in the
next twelve months though, is something that we are chatting about.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, I suppose that decision was made before she scored
one hundred over the weekend as well, so that just
sort of added to the selection to it.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
Yeah, look, obviously, I think it's really important Number one
for your captain to probably be someone that's you know,
almost guaranteed selection every time, and that's the number. You know,
A huge quality of Merees is that you know just
how good a player she is, and she's outstanding with
both bat and ball, and he's going to be a
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huge part of our team even without the captaincy. So yeah,
things like she did on the weekend where she got
another hundred just just cements that as well.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Are you ever concerned that when somebody is appointed captain
officially like that is somebody of great skill, that it
might detract a little bit from their game or does
she have the balance in her game that will cover
any possible you know, drop and form or something along
those lines.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
No, I completely understand what you're saying. Yeah, not not
that I'm concerned about it, but definitely, yeah, you do
think about it because it is a it is a
huge added I guess pressure but yeah, I think Merely
and the chats that we've had is really excited for
the opportunity. So look, I don't think it, you know,
will detract from her game in any way. But that's
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again to your point about like a leadership group and
how we could potentially take some of the pressures, especially
those off the field, maybe off a new cap and
to play. It's been really easy for me with Sophie
as the captain and just how good a job she's
done with that. But I would assume that when Sophie
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started as well, she probably wasn't the leader she was
at the end of her time, and that's something that
we've got to help merely with as well, you know,
particularly in that first probably twelve months, is just help
her out with navigating all the extra responsibilities that she has.
But to your point, that's part of the leadership's group
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job as well and staff.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
To give her that assistance.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Does a signal a likely change in approach from you
and the team or will you continue on the way
you've been developing over the last.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
To two or three years.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
I don't think it signals any change. No, she's got
a few she already told me A few things that
she wants in the team in terms of lineups and
potentially what we might take into the T twenty World Cup,
mainly around like number of frontline bowlers and things like that.
So she's got definite, I guess, opinions on the team
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that she wants to lead. But it's not I guess
deferring too much from how we've played in the in
the last twelve or eight months.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You've got messages coming up both T twity and Odie Eyes.
Have you been encouraged with the quality and the form
of players that you're likely to select for that?
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Yeah, I think from memory, I think in terms of
the Super Smash at the final point there, I think
it was white the top five batters were all White
Ferns or had played for the White Ferns in the
last eighty months, So that's probably something that, yeah, we
haven't quite done in the last few years, but I
think a number of our batters stood up really enjoying. Yeah,
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and the way that a number of our quicks in
particular bowl during that Super Smash I thought was impressive.
So yeah, I'm very much excited about what Super Smash
did and and I think the scores were elevated and
and that hopefully well will tie into and lead into
a really I guess aggressive way of playing the next
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two series.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, I guess it's a challenging time coming up as
well too, because if you look back on recent form,
you want to achieve a lot more consistency from the
team it both forms of the game, don't you.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
Yeah, and that's I guess the next step. And you
spoke about it before, like you know, we have been
developing this team, and now I think we're at a
point where a number of those younger players have now
had quite a few games, and that's our challenge is
to now be more consistent. We've understood that, you know
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in the I guess since my time here that maybe
that consistency was was something that was difficult to achieve.
A number of young players find their feed in international cricket.
But yeah, those players have been given a number of
opportunities now and yeah, to be more consistent on the
world stage is something that we're all striving for.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
I'm not wanting you to give away any names at
the moment, but are there any younger or is there
any sign of more youth coming to the forefront for
your selection of your team or squad that's coming up.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
Yeah, there will be a couple of new players and those, yeah,
a couple of younger players, especially against for that series
against Zimbabwe. So yeah, I don't think that's been released,
Eddie will tell me, but yeah, yeah, but there will
be a few new names in there.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
And then of course there's a South African visit later
in the well the next month.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, and I see that really as I guess
Zimbabwe gives us an opportunity to look at a few
players and then for me, South Africa is that last
real hit out before we go to the World Cup
against you know, a team that I think has made
the finals the last three World Cups, obviously in the
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ODI World Cup as well, So they're an extremely strong
team at the moment. They're playing great cricket, people like
Nadana Clerk you know, killed it during the WPL as well,
So they're a really strong outfit and will really give us,
you know, a real good test leading into that World Cup,
which hopefully, yeah, reflects what happened to the last World
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Cup where we had some really tough cricket leading in
against England. So we're going to have South Africa and
then we head over to England before the World Cup.
So against two world class nations. I think it's a
really good prep for the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
So that's the reaction of Ben Sewer, coach of the
White fans. Firstly, the choice of Amelia Ker hands up
those who would have had anybody else. The hands stayed down.
Easy meeting, not a hard job. Ben Sewer makes a
lot of points. Obviously he was the power behind the decision.
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The point I take out of what he says and
he acknowledges it readily. And we've talked black and blue
about this, Jerry, I know, and most we've had, at
odd times consistency from that team. You're not going to
win every game, you're not going to be the World
champions every day of the week while you're a developing side.
But you've got to look for consistency of performance. And
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even if you lose that, consistency is still going to
come to the Ford, isn't.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
It, Ben Sawyer. Okay, so he's an absent coach. He's
not in New Zealand now as he was.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
No, he comes to and from because he does big
best teams and I think he does IPL teams and
women's IPL right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
So he's the heads off to do franchise work elsewhere
and then he comes back when it's required for New Zealand.
Who was looking after? Who's responsible for developing? Because we
are in a developed phase, aren't we. Surely there are
some players who have played there for a long time
who have now retired. There are some players who have
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been there for a long time who may be retained
because there are not the other players coming through that
you might hope for. Is that fair comment?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yep, no argument there most would.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You agree with that? Well?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
I would? I would.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
So where where is the coach, the main coach to
provide the leadership for this development phase? He's away at
the moment doing franchises, right, I'm assuming someone else will
be taking is placed or do you know performing that role?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Probably the domestic coaches were their various teams.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Firstly, is so clearly the obvious choice. I have some
I have some concerns and sympathy for her to be
taking this on because players who have been fantastic for
the for the women's game in New Zealand are departing
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or were about to depart and she's going to be
left with a pretty a pretty inexperienced and largely underperformed
group of people, which seems to me to be a
very tough job, and a lot will be placed on
the one person. Albeit there there are some other decent players,
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whose sister included, but it's not going to be a
strong side, and there seems to be unrealistic expectations about
how the New Zealand women's cricket team is going to perform,
because I don't think they're that strong and I don't
think there is the depth there based purely on results
of recent times, but also when you take out the
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couple of the older players who are going to be retiring,
I think it's going to be a very tough job,
which it will be will be very difficult for still
a very young person. And I think Brian, as you
pointed out, it's hard to believe that she's been playing
cricket for New Zealand for ten years. Yeah, and do
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well that makes her what fo twenty five? I mean
twenty five? I mean that in itself. I mean you're
still a very young person and you're taking a lot
on and she's already had a challenge, as we're quite understandable.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
But I.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Wish her well. She's a fabulous player, seems a wonderful
person as well, just as an individual putting cricket to
one side. But by god, it's going to be a
tough gig and you're going to need as you rightly
point out, Jerry, you need that support around you. And
I wasn't aware of that situation with the coach, which
is a start contrast to the Mets coach. I don't
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think Walter's a part time guy, So why the difference
is it? I no, that won't ever know. But I
think I wish them well, but I don't have great expectations.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
No, I think that's a very fair, very fair summation Moose.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
We'll have a look and see what they pick in
terms of the squad which is due to be announced
soon for the series against them Babwe. But yeah, you're right, Moose,
it's going to be tough road ahead because they've got
a World Cup in the middle of the year. On coaching,
should we could be concerned that another New Zealand coach
is hitting over seas. Peter Fulton off to Middlesex a
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three year deal, not the fact that he's going. But
as he points out here, he wasn't even interviewed for
the black Caps role.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
It comes to John. I'd love to coach John. But yeah,
as as I found out when I suppose the Black
Chats job was up sort of during the middle of
the winter, just because you want something doesn't doesn't mean
that that's necessarily going to happen. So I didn't get
a I didn't get an interview for that for the
job then, So I suppose that was probably about the
time I started to sort of think, well, you know,
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if I couldn't couldn't get an interview, then I suppose
I'm going to do what's do what's best for me
and my family, and and like I said, hopefully at
some point down down the track that might become an
option against.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
I heard that yesterday that Fulton wasn't included in the
in the group just remind me of here. But I
think Canterbury has been pretty successful, haven't they. They've certainly
developed a lot of very good players who seem to
be making their way through to New Zealand A and
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the and the New Zealand team the black Caps. Understanding
that he did, he wasn't included because thought he has
a credentials, not least of which I think he was
also the batting catch coach at one point. So either
they had done a New Zealand Rugby thing which had
already pointed that the coach and just went through a
charade of a of a of a selection process, which
(39:24):
I doubt that would ever happen, would it in New
Zealand sport? But but I think, But then isn't it
interesting that he goes on to get a head coach
job at the proverbial home of cricket at Middlesex. I mean,
that's that's a that's a pretty plumb job. I would
(39:45):
have fought a fantastic one. So I applaud him, and
he's obviously said, well, I'm not going to be around
for a while, so I'm not gonna be need it
for a while, so I'm going and that's his that's
his career. So good on him, but it leaves a
few question marks, really.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Waded how long has he been a first first class
coach for Canterbury.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Well, he took the job after he left the batting
coaches role with the Black Caps, so three, three, four
years something like that when.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
He took that role on, right, So he took that
role on.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
He's been batting coach for the Black Caps as well.
He is presumably the head coach at Canterbury now, is
that correct?
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Yep?
Speaker 7 (40:31):
So he organizes the bowling coaches and the batting coaches
and so on as an overseer does he I'm assuming
also he does a bit of the batting as well.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Oh yeah, he's got support coaches. I think Brendan Donkers
is the bowling Yeah, so he's got he's got support there,
but you know, he runs the cutter.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
So what we're talking about the coaches around New Zealand.
I guess Shane Jurgensen is Did he get an interview?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Odds?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Not sure.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I'm not sure who got interviews. That's why I was
supprised that Fulton didn't.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
So yeah, so he's off to Middlesex for three years.
I'm guessing they are in the second division now. They
have been just easing their way down in the championship
in England. They for such a large and wealthy county,
so that's a bit of a that's going to be
(41:30):
a challenge for him and probably a very good one.
He'll come back with a lot more experience, a lot
of a vast amount of hearing different people's views. They
see the game slightly differently in England than we do here,
and so he will come back and he'll certainly gain
as a coach if that's what he's interested in doing.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
If he can. If he one survives and hopefully prospers,
and I really hope he does. What I do think
is very good if one he gets out of the
New Zealand bubble, it's very important to do that, but
importantly get out of the Canterbury bubble. I don't want
to be too critical, but I'm sure they do speak
to each other a lot down there and believe their
(42:15):
own numb own version of the world. Being unkind of course,
but no, but I think that going over there, and
also he's going to have to deal with a different
type of person, there'll be politics that he has to
sort of manage and understand. So if he does get
(42:35):
there and prospers, and I really hope he does, because
it will be good for the New Zealand cricket. Assuming
he returns, then he's certainly going to come back. I
really find a fine coach and would all go well
for New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
That's the thing that coaches have always tried to do.
Have then they get a bit of overseas experience and
then come back here and hopefully that might well be
the case.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
I would just I'm sure he was disappointed once that
he don't get a crack, or at least that they
had a chat to him to acknowledge the work that
he's done.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Quick finished. This week, forty eight years ago, I went
over England at the base in reserves.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
The drama started very early when I think I bowled
the first ball of the match to John Wright, which
he edged in front of second slip and Bob Taylor
took a magnificent diving catch to his left, but the
umpire was unmoved and John Wright went on to battle
day which proved a very valuable innings.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, then comes Collins now running into Bold to Boycott
and falling.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
They keep up.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
The scene a match. The crowd is unbelievable. The scene
out in the middle is up to vlation. Colline has
bowld Jeffrey Boycott a bore well tossed up moving in.
Speaker 11 (44:00):
Boycott over the top of it. Concentration, you might say,
almost lacking and it was through his defenses and wreck
of thumb England the two for one Boycot out Bold
Collins for one.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Evenly contested, and even being evenly contested. Now as incomes
Richard Handy running into Bold. To Edmondson, this will of
carry the firstlip.
Speaker 11 (44:26):
There's an a power.
Speaker 9 (44:29):
Part of the cat in those words, it's outside the
off stump and.
Speaker 11 (44:33):
Well skills, a thought set, and we fought by a power.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Quick comment, Jerry, you were there when watching on the beach.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
I was watching with the New Zealand selector of the time,
Frank Cameron, and he took me by the I felt
there's pressure beside me on my arm, and he took
me around to the end and we watched Richard Hadley
take those wickets in the in the fourth innings, and
he was more much more excited than I was.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I was.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
I had a measure of disappointment that I wasn't there,
but I put it to one side stoically, and then.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, we watched New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (45:18):
Well, of course mainly KLINGI wasn't it running from the
far end and getting Boycott out early on? And I thought, wow,
this is on, this is on, and the crowd, which
was fairly small at the start, you know, a mediocre
crowd for the basin days when the old bank was there,
(45:38):
you know, and you changed in the old changing rooms
and you sat up on the sat up on the
hill waiting.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
To go in. Yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
Suddenly the crowd, I mean Willington react quite quickly to
those sort of situations, and officers were cleared and they
arrived and people running you could see them with their
ties floating behind them, running up Cape rich Terrace.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Forty people said they were there that day. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,
most quickly.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
It was a bit of a shame that finished the
next day, didn't it? In the in the in the morning,
But never mind. A very exciting session of New Zealand
history there.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
I will always remember Richard Collins nailing Jeff Boycott LBW
and yes, and then I left the halls of academia
at Victoria University to scurry down there, and I too
was there, and so yeah, memorable, memorable and bloody good
day for New Zealand cricket. It was.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
That's how old we are now. It was forty eight
years ago and we were all there enjoying it. I
understand that Parks. It was a tea. Tayler even had
a little champagne, I'm told after that game, So that
that was an interesting story that came out of the
coverage of that event. This weekend, We've.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Got it was lemonade.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Don't worry that that. It looks the same as far
as Parks is concerned.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
That's good. Oh well, that's got.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
He took a catch actually, even though it bobbled.
Speaker 9 (47:18):
And he did.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Right, we're bad.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
We're about to go, guys.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
We've got the Ford Trophy and Heli and.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
Johnson and I'll be at the basement watching good Boy Cheers,
Good summer.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
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