June 7, 2026 • 16 mins
Christopher Luxon has returned from Queensland, after meeting with Anthony Albanese with a group of New Zealand businesses.
No announcements have been unveiled, but the leaders discussed defence options and Luxon has been eying opportunities to get involved in the 2032 Olympics.
NZ Herald deputy political editor Adam Pearse joined the Weekend Collective to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
So Chris Luxon is back in the country after meeting
the Australian PM, Anthony Alberanzi for a couple of days.
The two met for the annual Leaders Meeting and spoke
with several top business leaders about economic resiliency, Global resilience
should I say global volatility was the central topic, with
eyes set on the Middle East conflict of China's growing
influence in the future energy shocks, but there was some
(00:33):
chat about Brisbane hosting the Olympics in twenty thirty two
as well, and Albanesi responding. He responded to Nikola Willis,
who had a crack at Labour's Australia Labour's newly announced
capital gains tax. Auban Easy said it was his most
effective meeting as a business leader or business meeting, should
I say, But you know that means positive results hopefully.
(00:56):
But what's to come of this? Because for me, I
got to say my pet topic for it is I
just want Christopher Luxen to wear a suit that actually fits.
But that might be a little trivia take on it anyway,
To get his take on all of this hopefully New
Zealand Herald Deputy Political editor editor Adam Ps joins me. Now, Adam, good, afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Good, how are you good? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So tell me one thing that could be remotely interesting
about this visit apart from the fact that Christopher Luxon
continues to wear ill fitting suits.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, look, I won't I won't pass any commental or
judgment on the side of the suits. I'll leave that
to you. But oh look, I mean these these trips
are about as important as you make them. I mean,
we've got to maintain a good relationship with Australia. And
while there are no big, kind of flashy announcements or
(01:49):
big decisions that are made at these things, that are
still an important time to check in and see how
things can be improved. It's kind of more of a
slow burn rather than a sudden impact. And that you
mentioned how there were a number of business execs across
a number of industries would be aviation or logistics, construction,
that kind of thing fuel as well. Important to be
(02:12):
able to see how different regulations and settings across the
tasm and can be fine tuned to make sure that
our economic settings are as advantageous for both parties as
they can be.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I guess reading into that and talking about the slow burn,
is that really because it's easy to look for the
headlines and journalists or we want something exciting to come
out of it, But really is the reassuring part of
it is it's about the nuts and bots of the
relationships we have with Australia, including business, and you know,
if it's all going well, we should actually be really
happy about that.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah. Look, I mean you might there might be some
people listening that might think no news is good news, right,
and if you don't have if you don't have tension points,
then that's that's a good thing. And I think we
do see that from the relationship that particularly Christopher Luxe
and Anthony Albaneasy have with each other. You know, they've
known each other for quite some time. Albanize was a
(03:08):
former Transport minister when Christopher Luxen was the chief executive
of a New Zealand, so they go a long way back.
So they've got that kind of relationship there. They love
their sport. They're always ribbing each other about their different
sporting rivalries almost in every public interaction that you see
them together. And what that does I mean it's nice
(03:29):
to see. Obviously we want New Zealand and Australia's leaders
to get on, but also I think, in my view
it tends to it tends to add a bit of
momentum to the desire of both nations just to get
more aligned. And you know we're talking about economic settings
but also defense. You know that's growing in its importance
these days, particularly given that global volatility, so important to
(03:52):
have that relationship there.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Alban Easy made the comment. I think he said it
was the most effective business meeting he's had as Prime minister.
Some people might say that's almost a crack at Luxe
AND's CEO experience, but I think he that genuinely.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Did he Yeah, he seemed to mean it genuinely. I
think there is probably a feeling, given how in stable
or unstable rather the global affairs have been in the
last twelve months, there has been a bit of a
I guess, a reminder that the likes of Australia, Australia
(04:27):
in particular, as a much bigger country than New Zealand,
still does need to prioritize its relationship with New Zealand
and make sure that we're we're taking full advantage of
our proximity and the resources that we can both share.
So there is certainly value in that proposition.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Nichola Willis's cracks at Australia because she went quite hard
on their tax policy, didn't she. What's your take on that?
How did that go down in Australia? I mean, obviously
the diplomacy side of things, they just brush it off
as a bit abound, don't they.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, And that was certainly the case when we went
over there. Christ of a Luxan before the trip I
about those comments, and and he's in a bit of
a in a bit of a hard place here because
he can't be seen to be dismissive off his or
go against his finance minister or his finance spokesperson for
the National Party. But he also can't go as far
(05:21):
as to completely endorse her comments, which were which were
very strong, probably stronger than we normally see in terms
of the critique I suppose from from across the ditch,
because obviously Christopher Luxon in the days before transcends to
the meeting probably doesn't want to be slagging off his counterpart.
So it was it was something that Christopher Luxson was
(05:45):
quick to kind of dismissed as an issue. Anthony Alberanezi
was reading from from the same script. I think when
we put that question to him in the press conference,
he was very much of the view that it was
just a bit of cheekiness that probably downplays a touch.
But again, they can pull it back to this relationship
(06:06):
that the two have, which is they're always bantering with
each other, always, you know, often making jokes. So I
think having that relationship in place already means that it's
a bit easier to be able to brush off. We're
quite strong criticisms from Nikola Willis as just like you said,
a bit of banter.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I get, and I look, I'm guessing you probably
don't like to play guests and games. But would there
be any chance that he would have known she was
going to make those comments beforehand, because you know, they
they would have a pretty close working relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, I mean, you look at how those comments came
into the public. That came through an unsolicited press release,
and it came from a national party attack ad on
social media. So no doubt this was an intentional strategy,
a strategic move to try and you know, build up
(07:01):
this scare campaign. About our labor parties capital gains tax proposal,
So of course he would have known about it. It would
be incredibly surprising if he didn't. I guess what we
saw was how Nikola Willis was owning that attack and
Christopher Luxeen was able to sit above it and argue
(07:22):
that it wasn't impacting his leader to lead a relationship
with Albaneta.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What actually came out of the meeting in terms of
just the commercial relationships between you and doing business between
New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, it's hard to point to anything specific really because
these like I've said, it's a bit of a slow burn,
they do have meetings with a number of high powered
business execs and they spoke about some actions that were
agreed from last year's meeting which was held in Queenstown
between the two leaders. We spoke to a couple of
(07:55):
the business people when they came out of their meeting.
There was no real concrete decisions that they could they
could tell us, but they did tell us a little
bit about some of the discussions. Fuel security obviously a
really important issue. We spoke to New Auckland Airport CEO
saying that there was discussions around how we can increase
(08:18):
that fuel security, whether it's fuel stockholdings, you know, there's
probably a discussion there. And obviously we've seen the government
increase the amount of fuel that holds up at Marsden point.
I think it's about seven days extra of diesel up
there will be in their short lived it isn't already
conversations around artificial intelligence standards and regulations making sure they're
(08:39):
aligned on both sides of the ditch for countries that
are operating on both sides. Obviously that's only going to
grow grow and its influence going forward. And then energy independence.
Obviously energy is such a big political issue or for
New Zealand, but it's also a global issue when we
see these global shocks impacting our energy supply.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hey, look, both countries are facing there are parties who
are growing based on an anti immigration sort of rhetoric.
We see it quite obviously with the Pauline Hanson's growth.
Was there any any point of discussion between the two
leaders on those issues.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, it's a fascinating symmetry there when you look at
both both Albanese and Luxe and are grappling with this issue,
where of course your listeners will know that we've got
a New Zealand First, which is pursuing quite a strong
anti immigration agenda domestically here and that's something that Christopher
Luxon needs to needs to factor and you know we've
(09:41):
seen looking at the polling a lot of voters that
are leaving National are going to New Zealand First, So
as far as his own political fortunes are concerned, that's
something that Christopher Luxon will have to manage. And then
across the ditch, you've got Anthony Albanese, as you say,
dealing with the rise of the One Nation Party led
by Pauline Hanson, as you say, and I think it
(10:03):
was a poll just recently saying that One Nation was
the most popular party, and obviously that's one poll. We
know Poles bounce around relucts, you say, and they do,
and that's fair enough. But to have One Nation become
so popular and take so many votes away from the
Conservative Coalition as they call it over there, that has
(10:26):
a real impact. And the fact that we've seen it
over in the UK and the US and now it's
growing and it's prominence here in New Zealand and Australia.
That will be something that they're taking quite a bit
of interest. And also when it comes down to social cohesion.
You know, Christopher Luxeen has been quite clear that he
views this kind of anti immigration debate as quite lazy
(10:49):
at times and has criticized the likes of Winston Peters
for pursuing it. But at the end of the day,
these parties are growing in popularity and they're going to
have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, okay, just on the China thing, because my read
collection is that Australia has had what you might describe
as a slightly more belligerent relationship with China compared to US.
So how aligned New Zealand and Australia on China's influence
in the Pacific and other issues?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I think Australia and New Zealand are certainly aligned
in terms of how the Pacific region should be managed
and how the likes of China and the United States
should engage in the region. Obviously that both both Australia
and New Zealand support what's what's called the centrality of
Pacial to the Pacific Islands Forum. That forum basically gives
every Pacific nation a seat at the table, a voice
(11:45):
and what the bigger countries in the Pacific, likel like
New Zealand, like Australia want is for when the likes
of China and the US come and they want to
grow their partnerships, they want to make investment for a
multitude of reasons, they should be doing it through that forum,
not through individual deals isolated conversations with particular nations. I mean,
(12:10):
I think, yes, you're right, Australia is often more vocal
about China. New Zealand has a unique relationship with China,
and I think that's been put on show with this
issue around the New Zealand MPs visiting Taiwan. Right we
had those those MPs have faced a sanction they can't
(12:30):
travel to China for twelve months and a rare unique
move from China because obviously we've had parliamentary MPs that
have traveled to Taiwan for many years. But then we
also saw Australia way in and really they're Foreign Minister
Penny Wong saying that she's instructed officials to make representations
(12:54):
to their Chinese counterparts, which is slightly as slightly rare
when we think about the fact that the fact of
the matter is it's an issue between New Zealand. Yeah,
doesn't really involve Australia. You know, when you look at it,
perhaps it's a timing thing, you know, it's a couple
of days before luxe And meets Albanezi. Maybe it's a
shelf support. Maybe just piggybacking off the fact that you know,
(13:20):
China has has slapped the sanction on. Maybe this is
Australia just having a bit of a slap back.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, oh, good on them, I guess, Lucky. Last question, Look,
it's probably the one of the bigger issues that's of
concern to all of us, Australia and New Zealand and
right around the world. What what discussions would have been
had or we had on where we stand on the
Middle East conflict and getting the straight of horn moves opened,
and what in any involvement that Australia and or New
(13:48):
Zealand will have in that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, I don't think you're going to see much involvement
in terms of actually prizing straight open from from Australia
and New Zealand. The messaging has been pretty consistent and
it's been something that Christopher Luxeon has been has been
finding his feet On, particularly following a speech that he
gave I think it was a couple of weeks ago
talking about the state of global affairs and saying that
(14:14):
the world had reachen an inflection point, that the bigger
powers were controlling the state of play, and that those
smaller powers and the middle powers as they as they
like to like to call the likes of Australia and
perhaps you be on depending on your perspective, need to
come together to be able to reinforce their economic security there. Obviously,
(14:37):
the joint statement that was signed by both Albanisi and
Luxemen called for the reopening of the Strait, the safe
passage of fuel and rest restoring those supply chains, but
also a plea or a message to the likes of
Israel and Lebanon to observe the US broken ceasefire, which
(14:58):
has that ceasefire has been pretty spotty, I think you
could probably say since since it's been mooted for how
in many weeks. So that's really the key thing from
down here at the bottom end of the world. We
we just want to see hostility cease. That's the message
coming from lux in an alban Easy. How much influence
(15:20):
we can have obviously that's pretty small, but at the
end of the day, you just got to keep being
in the drum. It's your luck in an albansy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Good stuff. Hey, Adam, I really appreciate your time this afternoon.
Thanks so much for your comments today.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Cheers cheers.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That is Adam Piers. He's a New Zealand Herald Dipity
political editor and I'll feed that a little bit of feedback.
Somebody just text said, who's this Very good? Yeah, indeed,
actually that was quite informative, actually because as I said
in a somewhat mischievous fashion, is that the main thing
that stood out to me from the visit is that
he still hasn't been to a decent tailor. But you know,
(15:54):
there's a lot more to the visit than that. Of course,
you can text your feedback by the way, anytime and
we'll take your feedback also after we've had a chat
after our next interview, which is Simeon Brown, who'll be
with us talking about this proposed changes between Health New
Zealand and the primary care sector where they will freeze
GP fees for the next twelve months while they look
(16:17):
at revising the model. We'll be talking with the Minister
in just a moment. This is new squash time is
f lying. Sorry, this's my fault. It's our twenty six
past three.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
So Chris Luxon is back in the country after meeting
the Australian PM, Anthony Alberanzi for a couple of days.
The two met for the annual Leaders Meeting and spoke
with several top business leaders about economic resiliency, Global resilience
should I say global volatility was the central topic, with
eyes set on the Middle East conflict of China's growing
influence in the future energy shocks, but there was some
(00:33):
chat about Brisbane hosting the Olympics in twenty thirty two
as well, and Albanesi responding. He responded to Nikola Willis,
who had a crack at Labour's Australia Labour's newly announced
capital gains tax. Auban Easy said it was his most
effective meeting as a business leader or business meeting, should
I say, But you know that means positive results hopefully.
(00:56):
But what's to come of this? Because for me, I
got to say my pet topic for it is I
just want Christopher Luxen to wear a suit that actually fits.
But that might be a little trivia take on it anyway,
To get his take on all of this hopefully New
Zealand Herald Deputy Political editor editor Adam Ps joins me. Now, Adam, good, afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Good, how are you good? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So tell me one thing that could be remotely interesting
about this visit apart from the fact that Christopher Luxon
continues to wear ill fitting suits.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, look, I won't I won't pass any commental or
judgment on the side of the suits. I'll leave that
to you. But oh look, I mean these these trips
are about as important as you make them. I mean,
we've got to maintain a good relationship with Australia. And
while there are no big, kind of flashy announcements or
(01:49):
big decisions that are made at these things, that are
still an important time to check in and see how
things can be improved. It's kind of more of a
slow burn rather than a sudden impact. And that you
mentioned how there were a number of business execs across
a number of industries would be aviation or logistics, construction,
that kind of thing fuel as well. Important to be
(02:12):
able to see how different regulations and settings across the
tasm and can be fine tuned to make sure that
our economic settings are as advantageous for both parties as
they can be.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I guess reading into that and talking about the slow burn,
is that really because it's easy to look for the
headlines and journalists or we want something exciting to come
out of it, But really is the reassuring part of
it is it's about the nuts and bots of the
relationships we have with Australia, including business, and you know,
if it's all going well, we should actually be really
happy about that.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah. Look, I mean you might there might be some
people listening that might think no news is good news, right,
and if you don't have if you don't have tension points,
then that's that's a good thing. And I think we
do see that from the relationship that particularly Christopher Luxe
and Anthony Albaneasy have with each other. You know, they've
known each other for quite some time. Albanize was a
(03:08):
former Transport minister when Christopher Luxen was the chief executive
of a New Zealand, so they go a long way back.
So they've got that kind of relationship there. They love
their sport. They're always ribbing each other about their different
sporting rivalries almost in every public interaction that you see
them together. And what that does I mean it's nice
(03:29):
to see. Obviously we want New Zealand and Australia's leaders
to get on, but also I think, in my view
it tends to it tends to add a bit of
momentum to the desire of both nations just to get
more aligned. And you know we're talking about economic settings
but also defense. You know that's growing in its importance
these days, particularly given that global volatility, so important to
(03:52):
have that relationship there.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Alban Easy made the comment. I think he said it
was the most effective business meeting he's had as Prime minister.
Some people might say that's almost a crack at Luxe
AND's CEO experience, but I think he that genuinely.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Did he Yeah, he seemed to mean it genuinely. I
think there is probably a feeling, given how in stable
or unstable rather the global affairs have been in the
last twelve months, there has been a bit of a
I guess, a reminder that the likes of Australia, Australia
(04:27):
in particular, as a much bigger country than New Zealand,
still does need to prioritize its relationship with New Zealand
and make sure that we're we're taking full advantage of
our proximity and the resources that we can both share.
So there is certainly value in that proposition.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Nichola Willis's cracks at Australia because she went quite hard
on their tax policy, didn't she. What's your take on that?
How did that go down in Australia? I mean, obviously
the diplomacy side of things, they just brush it off
as a bit abound, don't they.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, And that was certainly the case when we went
over there. Christ of a Luxan before the trip I
about those comments, and and he's in a bit of
a in a bit of a hard place here because
he can't be seen to be dismissive off his or
go against his finance minister or his finance spokesperson for
the National Party. But he also can't go as far
(05:21):
as to completely endorse her comments, which were which were
very strong, probably stronger than we normally see in terms
of the critique I suppose from from across the ditch,
because obviously Christopher Luxon in the days before transcends to
the meeting probably doesn't want to be slagging off his counterpart.
So it was it was something that Christopher Luxson was
(05:45):
quick to kind of dismissed as an issue. Anthony Alberanezi
was reading from from the same script. I think when
we put that question to him in the press conference,
he was very much of the view that it was
just a bit of cheekiness that probably downplays a touch.
But again, they can pull it back to this relationship
(06:06):
that the two have, which is they're always bantering with
each other, always, you know, often making jokes. So I
think having that relationship in place already means that it's
a bit easier to be able to brush off. We're
quite strong criticisms from Nikola Willis as just like you said,
a bit of banter.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I get, and I look, I'm guessing you probably
don't like to play guests and games. But would there
be any chance that he would have known she was
going to make those comments beforehand, because you know, they
they would have a pretty close working relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, I mean, you look at how those comments came
into the public. That came through an unsolicited press release,
and it came from a national party attack ad on
social media. So no doubt this was an intentional strategy,
a strategic move to try and you know, build up
(07:01):
this scare campaign. About our labor parties capital gains tax proposal,
So of course he would have known about it. It would
be incredibly surprising if he didn't. I guess what we
saw was how Nikola Willis was owning that attack and
Christopher Luxeen was able to sit above it and argue
(07:22):
that it wasn't impacting his leader to lead a relationship
with Albaneta.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What actually came out of the meeting in terms of
just the commercial relationships between you and doing business between
New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, it's hard to point to anything specific really because
these like I've said, it's a bit of a slow burn,
they do have meetings with a number of high powered
business execs and they spoke about some actions that were
agreed from last year's meeting which was held in Queenstown
between the two leaders. We spoke to a couple of
(07:55):
the business people when they came out of their meeting.
There was no real concrete decisions that they could they
could tell us, but they did tell us a little
bit about some of the discussions. Fuel security obviously a
really important issue. We spoke to New Auckland Airport CEO
saying that there was discussions around how we can increase
(08:18):
that fuel security, whether it's fuel stockholdings, you know, there's
probably a discussion there. And obviously we've seen the government
increase the amount of fuel that holds up at Marsden point.
I think it's about seven days extra of diesel up
there will be in their short lived it isn't already
conversations around artificial intelligence standards and regulations making sure they're
(08:39):
aligned on both sides of the ditch for countries that
are operating on both sides. Obviously that's only going to
grow grow and its influence going forward. And then energy independence.
Obviously energy is such a big political issue or for
New Zealand, but it's also a global issue when we
see these global shocks impacting our energy supply.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hey, look, both countries are facing there are parties who
are growing based on an anti immigration sort of rhetoric.
We see it quite obviously with the Pauline Hanson's growth.
Was there any any point of discussion between the two
leaders on those issues.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, it's a fascinating symmetry there when you look at
both both Albanese and Luxe and are grappling with this issue,
where of course your listeners will know that we've got
a New Zealand First, which is pursuing quite a strong
anti immigration agenda domestically here and that's something that Christopher
Luxon needs to needs to factor and you know we've
(09:41):
seen looking at the polling a lot of voters that
are leaving National are going to New Zealand First, So
as far as his own political fortunes are concerned, that's
something that Christopher Luxon will have to manage. And then
across the ditch, you've got Anthony Albanese, as you say,
dealing with the rise of the One Nation Party led
by Pauline Hanson, as you say, and I think it
(10:03):
was a poll just recently saying that One Nation was
the most popular party, and obviously that's one poll. We
know Poles bounce around relucts, you say, and they do,
and that's fair enough. But to have One Nation become
so popular and take so many votes away from the
Conservative Coalition as they call it over there, that has
(10:26):
a real impact. And the fact that we've seen it
over in the UK and the US and now it's
growing and it's prominence here in New Zealand and Australia.
That will be something that they're taking quite a bit
of interest. And also when it comes down to social cohesion.
You know, Christopher Luxeen has been quite clear that he
views this kind of anti immigration debate as quite lazy
(10:49):
at times and has criticized the likes of Winston Peters
for pursuing it. But at the end of the day,
these parties are growing in popularity and they're going to
have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, okay, just on the China thing, because my read
collection is that Australia has had what you might describe
as a slightly more belligerent relationship with China compared to US.
So how aligned New Zealand and Australia on China's influence
in the Pacific and other issues?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I think Australia and New Zealand are certainly aligned
in terms of how the Pacific region should be managed
and how the likes of China and the United States
should engage in the region. Obviously that both both Australia
and New Zealand support what's what's called the centrality of
Pacial to the Pacific Islands Forum. That forum basically gives
every Pacific nation a seat at the table, a voice
(11:45):
and what the bigger countries in the Pacific, likel like
New Zealand, like Australia want is for when the likes
of China and the US come and they want to
grow their partnerships, they want to make investment for a
multitude of reasons, they should be doing it through that forum,
not through individual deals isolated conversations with particular nations. I mean,
(12:10):
I think, yes, you're right, Australia is often more vocal
about China. New Zealand has a unique relationship with China,
and I think that's been put on show with this
issue around the New Zealand MPs visiting Taiwan. Right we
had those those MPs have faced a sanction they can't
(12:30):
travel to China for twelve months and a rare unique
move from China because obviously we've had parliamentary MPs that
have traveled to Taiwan for many years. But then we
also saw Australia way in and really they're Foreign Minister
Penny Wong saying that she's instructed officials to make representations
(12:54):
to their Chinese counterparts, which is slightly as slightly rare
when we think about the fact that the fact of
the matter is it's an issue between New Zealand. Yeah,
doesn't really involve Australia. You know, when you look at it,
perhaps it's a timing thing, you know, it's a couple
of days before luxe And meets Albanezi. Maybe it's a
shelf support. Maybe just piggybacking off the fact that you know,
(13:20):
China has has slapped the sanction on. Maybe this is
Australia just having a bit of a slap back.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, oh, good on them, I guess, Lucky. Last question, Look,
it's probably the one of the bigger issues that's of
concern to all of us, Australia and New Zealand and
right around the world. What what discussions would have been
had or we had on where we stand on the
Middle East conflict and getting the straight of horn moves opened,
and what in any involvement that Australia and or New
(13:48):
Zealand will have in that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, I don't think you're going to see much involvement
in terms of actually prizing straight open from from Australia
and New Zealand. The messaging has been pretty consistent and
it's been something that Christopher Luxeon has been has been
finding his feet On, particularly following a speech that he
gave I think it was a couple of weeks ago
talking about the state of global affairs and saying that
(14:14):
the world had reachen an inflection point, that the bigger
powers were controlling the state of play, and that those
smaller powers and the middle powers as they as they
like to like to call the likes of Australia and
perhaps you be on depending on your perspective, need to
come together to be able to reinforce their economic security there. Obviously,
(14:37):
the joint statement that was signed by both Albanisi and
Luxemen called for the reopening of the Strait, the safe
passage of fuel and rest restoring those supply chains, but
also a plea or a message to the likes of
Israel and Lebanon to observe the US broken ceasefire, which
(14:58):
has that ceasefire has been pretty spotty, I think you
could probably say since since it's been mooted for how
in many weeks. So that's really the key thing from
down here at the bottom end of the world. We
we just want to see hostility cease. That's the message
coming from lux in an alban Easy. How much influence
(15:20):
we can have obviously that's pretty small, but at the
end of the day, you just got to keep being
in the drum. It's your luck in an albansy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Good stuff. Hey, Adam, I really appreciate your time this afternoon.
Thanks so much for your comments today.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Cheers cheers.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That is Adam Piers. He's a New Zealand Herald Dipity
political editor and I'll feed that a little bit of feedback.
Somebody just text said, who's this Very good? Yeah, indeed,
actually that was quite informative, actually because as I said
in a somewhat mischievous fashion, is that the main thing
that stood out to me from the visit is that
he still hasn't been to a decent tailor. But you know,
(15:54):
there's a lot more to the visit than that. Of course,
you can text your feedback by the way, anytime and
we'll take your feedback also after we've had a chat
after our next interview, which is Simeon Brown, who'll be
with us talking about this proposed changes between Health New
Zealand and the primary care sector where they will freeze
GP fees for the next twelve months while they look
(16:17):
at revising the model. We'll be talking with the Minister
in just a moment. This is new squash time is
f lying. Sorry, this's my fault. It's our twenty six
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