March 13, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 14th March 2025, Oleksander Usyk has been ordered by the WBO to fight Joseph Parker, boxing promoter Dean Lonergan joins the podcast to discuss whether that will happen, and the process required to make the fight happen
Piney can hardly contain his excitement for the new F1 Season
And the lads are in the chamber to discuss the two Super Rugby kiwi derbies this weekend
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix Howard By News Talks ed B.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hi there and welcome into Friday's edition of the Sports
Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Race.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, I look, I know, I'll get to you in
a moment.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'll get to you in a moment. Let me get
the date out, March the fourteenth. What's coming up this weekend?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Ac race cars? Race cars? Oh man, sorry for my excitement.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I can't help me. So this is Christmas to me,
It really is, and the things that Christmas going to
occur every couple of weeks to receive.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I would never dampen your enthusiasm about the sport that
is so dear to your heart. I know how long
you've been a motorsport fan of listened in to your
many hundreds of interviews about motorsport this past couple of decades,
and look, I can understand it. You know, a keiw
in a full time Formula One seat, this is worth celebrating,
I think.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
So. Look, we'll talk about it later on in the piece,
I'm sure, as well as some other issues in the
Sporting Day, But coming out. Interview wise, we're going to
talk to Dean Long again about this chaos between WBO
and IBC and IBF and X y Z and blah
blah blah where it changes every half an hour. There's story.
So you reckon, Dino knows what's going on, blood you hope.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So well, if someone does, he will know, or if
he doesn't know, he'll at least be able to give
you some entertaining comment about the alphabet soup of boxing
belts that we find it sells in.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The middle of at the moment. So that's enough of
us rambling on during the intro. Let's get into it
in other news.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Let's start by checking out some of the big sports
stories around today. Six rookies and radically changed teams highlight
the new Formula one season. Only two of the ten
teams have kept the same driver lineup from last season.
Four time defending champion Max the staff and feels like
he's driving into the unknown of it. I know that
we are not the quicks at the moment, but as
a very long season so a lot of teams can always,
(02:09):
you know, change quite quickly. In Formula one Super Rugby,
Pacific's boss andsts. Initiatives like the Kids Superhero Round are
important to expose the sport to a wider audience. The
five New Zealand franchises have selected a character each from
the Marvel universe to represent them via their jerseys this weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Some people might go on, you know, why are they
wearing different jerseys? But we can't stand still. Yeah, I'm
really infused and excited for the clubs to try stuff.
And if we try stuff and learn, that's great for
the competition and we can go forward from there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And Warriors halfback Luke Metcalfe trying to massage out any
fan panic heading into tonight's Round two NROL match against
Manly at Mount Smart.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We just got to get back for what we know
wind this game.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's a pretty easy fix from us, boy, so no
one's really too worried.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We know what we need to do to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vain and Darcy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Walder Gree Everyone.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Welcome to the Sports Fix podcast. To former manager of
Joe Parker, boxing aficionado mister Dean Lan again, get a
Dino dars here, brother, I'm doing very, very well, really
excited about what may or may not happen with the
Joe Parker in the future. They're not too distant the
long term. I don't know. You, of course, spent a
(03:24):
lot of time in the shady world of boxing at
the heavyweight level. Can you explain to us in simple
terms what's going on now with Dubois, Parker and Usik,
because it seems to be changing with every passing minute.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's pretty simple, really, Joe has been the WBO interim
heavyweight champion for some time, so effectively in the number
one position and or just above the number one position.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
He's been made.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Mandatory right now by the WBO. Now that's fantastic us
for Joe. So that means that Ersk has to fight him.
Now Here's what's interesting is that in the world of boxing,
a unification fight trump's a mandatory right, So Ersek if
he chooses to fight Dubois, we'll see Joe wait until
(04:09):
the next fight around, and then you'd have to think
the winner of Dubois versus ERSK will fight Joe Parker
because they want to unify and become the undisputed the
heavy eight champ of the world. Or you know, like
I don't know exactly where the WBO are going to
sit on this. They could potentially, you know, this week's
up the IBF would do, but they the bodies do
(04:30):
agree on this because they want a unifight champ, you know,
so if he fights one or the other, one of
them can get stripped, you know, and you end up
fighting for the vacant title.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But more than likely Ers will fight Dubois because.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
That's where the big money is, and they'll probably do
that fight older thought in England to be bluntly honest,
because that's going to drive a whole lot of paper
view revenues for the Saudi's out of England.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And then I think Joe Parker will get his chance.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
But whatever whatever happens, and whenever it happens, I can
guarantee you this, Joe Parker one hundred is going to
fight for the heavyweight title of the world, and more
than luckily it'll be for the undisputed the heavy at
title of the world, which is exciting stuff. If he
gets to fight Dubois for that, I believe you wins
that fighters a bit tougher because Joe, you know, has
struggled a little bit with south Pauls over at the
course of his career, and Ersik might be one of
(05:16):
the greatest South Pauls that have ever boxed, have ever boxed,
But you know, Ers's only got two more fights left
in him, and Joe Parker might be one of them.
Regardless of what happens next fight up, josenh for a
massive payday and well deserved and I think you know
at some stage you're going to see Joe become the
world hippyweight champion again and maybe undisputed it.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
So let's roll the clock back a wee bit. If
he decides sick that he doesn't want to take on
Joe park and he wants to go to Dubois, will
he be stripped of that wb O belt? Will that
be given straight away to Parker? So he receives that
belt by default, So if he does fight.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
That's not how it happens what happened. What happens is
if a champion does get stripped of the belt because
he didn't fighter is mandatory. What happens is the the
champ will fight, or the number one will fight, or
the man if we will fight the number one on
number two contender, right'll be for what's called a vacant title.
But because the championship bodies, the IBF, the WBO, the WBA,
(06:17):
and the WBC all agree that it's advantageous to have
a unified title, you'll find that they don't if they
if they fight for another title to help you fight,
they don't have to fight their mandatory. Off the top
of my head, now they've got all sorts of different rules,
and they'll be all sorts of different discussions going on,
and Joe might get paid step aside money.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's going to come down to what the ruling bodies think.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
But I think you'll find that this is just my opinion,
is that he is that Ersek will fight Dubois because
there's more money in that, and then will fight Joe
and that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Will be the end of verse x career.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
He's only got two more fights left and I don't
think I don't think they'll strip him. But you know,
for not facing his mandatory, because he is facing he
is unifying the titles.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But it can happen if they wanted to.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Look, the sanctioning bodies are fascinating, you know, and they
make all sorts of the only one that I found
was truly consistent to their rules was the IBF. And
the reason for that is go back fifteen twenty years
and make the most corrupt and crooked of all, and
a lot of them ended up on the verge of
going to jail and in court, and as the result,
they stick to their rules like glue.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I found the IBF great to deal with with.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
The other with the others, it's a combination of the
relationships that you have and the springs that you can
pull them, what have you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But my gut.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Feelers, you know, just Joe's in a fantastic position. It'd
be brilliant if he could get to Fighter sick. But
we'll just have to wait and see if that's what happens,
and I'm sure there'll be people moving right now. I
think I think Joe's being promoted by Queensberry, which is
Frank Warren, And though we working hard to make sure
that they get their piece of the action, having said that,
(07:53):
I'm pretty sure that Frank Warren does du bois as well.
So they're in a no new situation.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Why would the WBO make this announcement though, that they
want to see usc fight Parker with that WZO? Why
would they bring them?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Really, that's a really, really, really good question. And what
I would do is I would written the WBO and
I have a discussion with them, or indeed, you could
bring George or Frank Warren and Mate, I'm sure I
can give you both of their phone numbers and you
can ring them up and find out because Mabe, you
never know what goes on behind the scenes with these organizations.
Maybe it was just the fact that the thing is duing,
(08:30):
this is what it says in their rules, or maybe
it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So sometimes they can be quite interesting in the decisions
they come with. But Joe's been sitting there for a
very long time as the as the interim champion. This
is well deserved and I really look forward to Joe
getting his chance at the big time again and made.
He's in for a massive heyday, you know, so good
luck to my hope it goes well.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah, we love watching him fight. He's really improved under
his new coach, nutrition everything. And one last thing for you,
Dan Lodgan is always sayings very much for your time, WI.
Its great to catch up. How in flunch of Saudi
Arabia being in this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I would have thought that the Saudis are probably sitting
the one side and the WBO make their own rulings
and their own just let the IBF.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you know, because they like to think that they're independent.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
But you know, I can't stand here and say that
the money hasn't crossed people's palms.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
And really there's only three or four people make these
decisions there would they might have had it just a
straight out committee meeting of the WBO and they sat
around the table and decided this was There was a
whole lot of decisions made, and obviously this is one
that affects one of our national heroes, and all of
a sudden, it's all over the newspaper, all over the news.
So I'm a little bit distance from it, but I
(09:47):
do understand the nuances, and all I can tell you
is this, Joe Parker is an absolutely brilliant position and made.
He's looking forward I guess to cashing in number one
but two getting to be the heavyweight championship.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Hey, thanks Dena, thanks for joining us here on the
Sports Fixed podcast Sports Fact Sense Sense.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look, I'm not a huge motorsport fan certainly like my
podcast co host Darcy, but you can't help but be
swept up in what is happening this weekend in Melbourne,
a keiw with a full time Formula One drive and
a Red Bull car alongside the four time world champion
Max for Stappin the sentence itself seems crazy, but here
(10:27):
we are. Liam Lawson has long been talked about as
a tremendous prospect. Greg Murphy told us four or five
years ago that he was one to watch, but for
him to actually get to where he is one of
only twenty Formula One seats is incredible. It's hard to
tell rarely from the outside, but it feels as though
Liam Lawson is taking it all in astride. He looks
(10:49):
calm and the media situations I've seen this week doesn't
look like he's being swept up in it all and
is ready to fulfill a dream he's had for a
long time. This is where he's always wanted to be.
This is where he seems destined to have ended up.
He had a crack last year, of course as injury cover,
and then the musical chairs began at Red Ball and
(11:11):
everybody wondered who'd have a seat when the music stopped.
It always felt as though Liam Lawson was in the
mix and so approved, and so this weekend Liam gets
into that full time seat for the first time. There
are many metrics being thrown around as to what success
looks like for him in Melbourne this weekend. Just finishing
is one. Top ten is being talked about. Getting within
(11:33):
three tenths of a second of Max Forstappin is another.
It feels to me like just being there is a
success because very very few from these parts have ever
done it. And this is just the start. Let's not
forget that this isn't a one off. This is the
beginning of what could be a very special motorsport career.
(11:55):
All eyes on Melbourne from five o'clock Sunday as twenty
drivers start their engines and one of them is one
of us.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Into the Chamber we go.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, as I've just said on the podcast, I'm not
a massive motorsport fan, but I've been swept up by
the whole Lillam Lawson thing. As you said at the
Top Race Cars, it is for you across this weekend.
Let's actually get to the nitty gritty of it. What
do you predict for Liam Lawson on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think that the only acceptable result for Liam Lawson
is a top ten finish, and even then it's a stretch.
He'd probably be looking at top six, but I'd say
top ten. Keep it on the ash, felt, don't stick
it into the scenery. That's a bit. He's got to
bring his car home. They're very valuable and we know
if you keep pushing them into the side of the track,
(12:49):
you're going to lose your drive eventually. So for him,
they sayero point three seconds slower than maxfish Staff and
so that that's a key. But he needs to finish
in the top ten at least that's my expectation. You
know what, Piney, I found out something quite interesting on
Friday afternoon, twenty six degrees over in Melbourne. Apparent it's
thirty six toes on Saturday, and you know what's going
(13:10):
to happen on Sunday. It's going to rain.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh wow, Well this.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Is great because we and Liam Lawson first got on
an F one cart when he deputized for Daniel Ricardo.
As he broke his hand. It was over in Zandvord
a couple of years ago. It hoes down and he
drove really well because kiwis love driving in the rain,
all really good at So that in itself excites me.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
All right, I've written that down, laws and good in
the wet I've written that down also that that's the
old adage. And you talked about it about getting around
the race track. I mean to finish first. First, you
have to finish, right, It's an old adage in all
sorts of racing, bed, motorsport, horse racing, or even just
running around a track. So okay, let's let's and I
(13:52):
hope we don't have to go down this track. But
if things don't go well for Liam on Sunday, he
either has a DNF or finishes nearer the back of
the field. It's only the first one, isn't it. So
what do we read into success, failure or otherwise this
week in such a long season.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, they'll give them plenty of rope. I don't see
them drop kicking after a couple of bad results at
the start of the season. You also remember that Liam's
never had any experience at Albert Park before. It's never
driven there, which might count for something. There's a number
of other rookies. If you was five other guys who've
not driven before. You know, he's got a couple of
(14:30):
races under his belt. But I think they will give
him some wiggle room, possibly even four races before they
start going, well, you're not doing too well because they're
not afraid Red Ball of drop kicking people. They've done
it before and they'll do it again. So pressure makes diamonds,
as they say when you're talking about cliches.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Jason, that's another good one. Well, okay, I won't worry
about Liam. I am a bit worried about the Warriors
if we can segue to them tonight at go Media
Stadium up against the Sea Eagle, so I thought were
terrific last week and beating the Cowboys forty two twelve,
the Warriors off the back of their less than perfect
opener in Las Vegas. Should I be worried about the
(15:10):
Warriors tonight, I'd say, And this has been very generous
around the Warriores, even the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The Warriors, I've been told to be patient, which we've
talked about this, so I flatly refused to be It's
not on my makeup, but I would say that tonight's
game represents the proper start to the season for the
one he's in on Warriors. This is where it really starts.
I think that Las Vegas was a gimmick. I wasn't
(15:37):
entirely happy with it. I'm still not. I don't think
it means anything. Yeah, competition points on the line. But
now two weeks after that and they've been slapped in
the face, They've had that away experience. The season starts
tonight at home, and so when they get the win,
or if they get the win, I think we're in
a much better position to judge where the Warriors are at.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Right, all right, Yeah, that's well, that's good analysis. Okay,
I'm least worried about the Warriors now, Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Ken to make you worry about something.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You're worried about the Hurricanes, Hurricanes Islanders tonight. Please give
me some hope that the Hurricanes actually look I looked
at the odds for this before we came to wear
a dollar eighty seven h ta B can't split them
coin flip for them. You've got no skin in this game,
Hurricanes Orhighlanders.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I like the Highlanders for this, but the unpopular Highlanders
who always seem to be looking up to the ward
the top of the ladder, but never up there themselves.
I don't think they've got anything to lose in the
way they played the game, and I think the pressure
on Clark and his men is enormous in what we've
seen so far from the Hurricanes, they ain't handling that
very well, like the Blues and the Canes basically sitting
(16:46):
at the foot of the table. This is bizarre. But
what one eight seven apiece? How good is this for
super rugby? That we've got two New Zealand teams and
you can't split them And this is fantastic for people
without any skin in the.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Game, and absolutely and look and no we neither of
us have skin. And tomorrow Knights game Chiefs Blues. You
talked about the Hurricanes needing a bit of a confidence
boost and not being where they should be.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What about the.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Blue They could lose to the Chiefs tomorrow night easily
and they could be what will that be?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
One end four to start the season.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And I think that their Chiefs are much better possession
because they got beaten last week. But it's nigh on
impossible to have beaten Dura in their own backyard. But
that's probably the punch in the nose they needed, not
that they needed one. They're playing very very well, but
they'll return to regular service come that game. It is
in Hamilton as well. FMG Stadium is the Battle of
(17:39):
the Bombays. And again we go back to the pressures
exerted on teams and how they're dealing with them. At
the moment the Hurricanes and the Blues aren't dealing with
them as well. But that can all change in the
space of eighty minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Right it can. Indeed, all right, Well, my brow is furrowed,
but you know what, there's nothing I can do from here.
All I can do is watch tonight my Hurricanes against
the Highlanders, the Warriors against the Sea Eagles when out
of his skin in the game, the Blues against the
Chiefs tomorrow night, and the race Cars on Sunday desk.
And I just say, as I said at the start
(18:12):
of the podcast, I know how much this sport means
to you. I know how long a relationship you've had
with Liam Lawson and his family. It was great to
hear his old man on with you yesterday. Look, I
just hope you enjoy it. I hope you are able
to enjoy it without getting too tense and clenching the
sides of your couch too much.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
It's hard to watch Formula One hiding behind the back
of the couch. I'll tell you that I'm in it
for the joy. I'm in it for the color and
the noise and the sound. When lose come off the track,
it doesn't matter. I'm buying into this one hundred percent.
The tenth New Zealander. Man, he is there. I'm so
so so so calm.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Race cars. Out of the chamber, we go.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
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Speaker 3 (19:02):
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Speaker 5 (19:14):
And also on Monday night between seven and eight, Jason
Pine with the actual sports talk you can relate to
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weekend which is happening well. A hop skipp and a
jump with Weekend Sport twelve midday till three o'clock Saturday Sunday.
(19:37):
Looking forward to that one. Piney, You enjoy your weekend,
because I certainly certainly will see you bro.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
See you bro.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hi there and welcome into Friday's edition of the Sports
Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Race.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, I look, I know, I'll get to you in
a moment.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'll get to you in a moment. Let me get
the date out, March the fourteenth. What's coming up this weekend?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Ac race cars? Race cars? Oh man, sorry for my excitement.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I can't help me. So this is Christmas to me,
It really is, and the things that Christmas going to
occur every couple of weeks to receive.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I would never dampen your enthusiasm about the sport that
is so dear to your heart. I know how long
you've been a motorsport fan of listened in to your
many hundreds of interviews about motorsport this past couple of decades,
and look, I can understand it. You know, a keiw
in a full time Formula One seat, this is worth celebrating,
I think.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
So. Look, we'll talk about it later on in the piece,
I'm sure, as well as some other issues in the
Sporting Day, But coming out. Interview wise, we're going to
talk to Dean Long again about this chaos between WBO
and IBC and IBF and X y Z and blah
blah blah where it changes every half an hour. There's story.
So you reckon, Dino knows what's going on, blood you hope.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So well, if someone does, he will know, or if
he doesn't know, he'll at least be able to give
you some entertaining comment about the alphabet soup of boxing
belts that we find it sells in.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The middle of at the moment. So that's enough of
us rambling on during the intro. Let's get into it
in other news.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Let's start by checking out some of the big sports
stories around today. Six rookies and radically changed teams highlight
the new Formula one season. Only two of the ten
teams have kept the same driver lineup from last season.
Four time defending champion Max the staff and feels like
he's driving into the unknown of it. I know that
we are not the quicks at the moment, but as
a very long season so a lot of teams can always,
(02:09):
you know, change quite quickly. In Formula one Super Rugby,
Pacific's boss andsts. Initiatives like the Kids Superhero Round are
important to expose the sport to a wider audience. The
five New Zealand franchises have selected a character each from
the Marvel universe to represent them via their jerseys this weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Some people might go on, you know, why are they
wearing different jerseys? But we can't stand still. Yeah, I'm
really infused and excited for the clubs to try stuff.
And if we try stuff and learn, that's great for
the competition and we can go forward from there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And Warriors halfback Luke Metcalfe trying to massage out any
fan panic heading into tonight's Round two NROL match against
Manly at Mount Smart.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We just got to get back for what we know
wind this game.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's a pretty easy fix from us, boy, so no
one's really too worried.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We know what we need to do to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vain and Darcy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Walder Gree Everyone.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Welcome to the Sports Fix podcast. To former manager of
Joe Parker, boxing aficionado mister Dean Lan again, get a
Dino dars here, brother, I'm doing very, very well, really
excited about what may or may not happen with the
Joe Parker in the future. They're not too distant the
long term. I don't know. You, of course, spent a
(03:24):
lot of time in the shady world of boxing at
the heavyweight level. Can you explain to us in simple
terms what's going on now with Dubois, Parker and Usik,
because it seems to be changing with every passing minute.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's pretty simple, really, Joe has been the WBO interim
heavyweight champion for some time, so effectively in the number
one position and or just above the number one position.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
He's been made.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Mandatory right now by the WBO. Now that's fantastic us
for Joe. So that means that Ersk has to fight him.
Now Here's what's interesting is that in the world of boxing,
a unification fight trump's a mandatory right, So Ersek if
he chooses to fight Dubois, we'll see Joe wait until
(04:09):
the next fight around, and then you'd have to think
the winner of Dubois versus ERSK will fight Joe Parker
because they want to unify and become the undisputed the
heavy eight champ of the world. Or you know, like
I don't know exactly where the WBO are going to
sit on this. They could potentially, you know, this week's
up the IBF would do, but they the bodies do
(04:30):
agree on this because they want a unifight champ, you know,
so if he fights one or the other, one of
them can get stripped, you know, and you end up
fighting for the vacant title.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But more than likely Ers will fight Dubois because.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
That's where the big money is, and they'll probably do
that fight older thought in England to be bluntly honest,
because that's going to drive a whole lot of paper
view revenues for the Saudi's out of England.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And then I think Joe Parker will get his chance.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
But whatever whatever happens, and whenever it happens, I can
guarantee you this, Joe Parker one hundred is going to
fight for the heavyweight title of the world, and more
than luckily it'll be for the undisputed the heavy at
title of the world, which is exciting stuff. If he
gets to fight Dubois for that, I believe you wins
that fighters a bit tougher because Joe, you know, has
struggled a little bit with south Pauls over at the
course of his career, and Ersik might be one of
(05:16):
the greatest South Pauls that have ever boxed, have ever boxed,
But you know, Ers's only got two more fights left
in him, and Joe Parker might be one of them.
Regardless of what happens next fight up, josenh for a
massive payday and well deserved and I think you know
at some stage you're going to see Joe become the
world hippyweight champion again and maybe undisputed it.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
So let's roll the clock back a wee bit. If
he decides sick that he doesn't want to take on
Joe park and he wants to go to Dubois, will
he be stripped of that wb O belt? Will that
be given straight away to Parker? So he receives that
belt by default, So if he does fight.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
That's not how it happens what happened. What happens is
if a champion does get stripped of the belt because
he didn't fighter is mandatory. What happens is the the
champ will fight, or the number one will fight, or
the man if we will fight the number one on
number two contender, right'll be for what's called a vacant title.
But because the championship bodies, the IBF, the WBO, the WBA,
(06:17):
and the WBC all agree that it's advantageous to have
a unified title, you'll find that they don't if they
if they fight for another title to help you fight,
they don't have to fight their mandatory. Off the top
of my head, now they've got all sorts of different rules,
and they'll be all sorts of different discussions going on,
and Joe might get paid step aside money.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's going to come down to what the ruling bodies think.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
But I think you'll find that this is just my opinion,
is that he is that Ersek will fight Dubois because
there's more money in that, and then will fight Joe
and that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Will be the end of verse x career.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
He's only got two more fights left and I don't
think I don't think they'll strip him. But you know,
for not facing his mandatory, because he is facing he
is unifying the titles.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But it can happen if they wanted to.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Look, the sanctioning bodies are fascinating, you know, and they
make all sorts of the only one that I found
was truly consistent to their rules was the IBF. And
the reason for that is go back fifteen twenty years
and make the most corrupt and crooked of all, and
a lot of them ended up on the verge of
going to jail and in court, and as the result,
they stick to their rules like glue.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I found the IBF great to deal with with.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
The other with the others, it's a combination of the
relationships that you have and the springs that you can
pull them, what have you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But my gut.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Feelers, you know, just Joe's in a fantastic position. It'd
be brilliant if he could get to Fighter sick. But
we'll just have to wait and see if that's what happens,
and I'm sure there'll be people moving right now. I
think I think Joe's being promoted by Queensberry, which is
Frank Warren, And though we working hard to make sure
that they get their piece of the action, having said that,
(07:53):
I'm pretty sure that Frank Warren does du bois as well.
So they're in a no new situation.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Why would the WBO make this announcement though, that they
want to see usc fight Parker with that WZO? Why
would they bring them?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Really, that's a really, really, really good question. And what
I would do is I would written the WBO and
I have a discussion with them, or indeed, you could
bring George or Frank Warren and Mate, I'm sure I
can give you both of their phone numbers and you
can ring them up and find out because Mabe, you
never know what goes on behind the scenes with these organizations.
Maybe it was just the fact that the thing is duing,
(08:30):
this is what it says in their rules, or maybe
it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So sometimes they can be quite interesting in the decisions
they come with. But Joe's been sitting there for a
very long time as the as the interim champion. This
is well deserved and I really look forward to Joe
getting his chance at the big time again and made.
He's in for a massive heyday, you know, so good
luck to my hope it goes well.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah, we love watching him fight. He's really improved under
his new coach, nutrition everything. And one last thing for you,
Dan Lodgan is always sayings very much for your time, WI.
Its great to catch up. How in flunch of Saudi
Arabia being in this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I would have thought that the Saudis are probably sitting
the one side and the WBO make their own rulings
and their own just let the IBF.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you know, because they like to think that they're independent.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
But you know, I can't stand here and say that
the money hasn't crossed people's palms.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
And really there's only three or four people make these
decisions there would they might have had it just a
straight out committee meeting of the WBO and they sat
around the table and decided this was There was a
whole lot of decisions made, and obviously this is one
that affects one of our national heroes, and all of
a sudden, it's all over the newspaper, all over the news.
So I'm a little bit distance from it, but I
(09:47):
do understand the nuances, and all I can tell you
is this, Joe Parker is an absolutely brilliant position and made.
He's looking forward I guess to cashing in number one
but two getting to be the heavyweight championship.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Hey, thanks Dena, thanks for joining us here on the
Sports Fixed podcast Sports Fact Sense Sense.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look, I'm not a huge motorsport fan certainly like my
podcast co host Darcy, but you can't help but be
swept up in what is happening this weekend in Melbourne,
a keiw with a full time Formula One drive and
a Red Bull car alongside the four time world champion
Max for Stappin the sentence itself seems crazy, but here
(10:27):
we are. Liam Lawson has long been talked about as
a tremendous prospect. Greg Murphy told us four or five
years ago that he was one to watch, but for
him to actually get to where he is one of
only twenty Formula One seats is incredible. It's hard to
tell rarely from the outside, but it feels as though
Liam Lawson is taking it all in astride. He looks
(10:49):
calm and the media situations I've seen this week doesn't
look like he's being swept up in it all and
is ready to fulfill a dream he's had for a
long time. This is where he's always wanted to be.
This is where he seems destined to have ended up.
He had a crack last year, of course as injury cover,
and then the musical chairs began at Red Ball and
(11:11):
everybody wondered who'd have a seat when the music stopped.
It always felt as though Liam Lawson was in the
mix and so approved, and so this weekend Liam gets
into that full time seat for the first time. There
are many metrics being thrown around as to what success
looks like for him in Melbourne this weekend. Just finishing
is one. Top ten is being talked about. Getting within
(11:33):
three tenths of a second of Max Forstappin is another.
It feels to me like just being there is a
success because very very few from these parts have ever
done it. And this is just the start. Let's not
forget that this isn't a one off. This is the
beginning of what could be a very special motorsport career.
(11:55):
All eyes on Melbourne from five o'clock Sunday as twenty
drivers start their engines and one of them is one
of us.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Into the Chamber we go.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, as I've just said on the podcast, I'm not
a massive motorsport fan, but I've been swept up by
the whole Lillam Lawson thing. As you said at the
Top Race Cars, it is for you across this weekend.
Let's actually get to the nitty gritty of it. What
do you predict for Liam Lawson on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think that the only acceptable result for Liam Lawson
is a top ten finish, and even then it's a stretch.
He'd probably be looking at top six, but I'd say
top ten. Keep it on the ash, felt, don't stick
it into the scenery. That's a bit. He's got to
bring his car home. They're very valuable and we know
if you keep pushing them into the side of the track,
(12:49):
you're going to lose your drive eventually. So for him,
they sayero point three seconds slower than maxfish Staff and
so that that's a key. But he needs to finish
in the top ten at least that's my expectation. You
know what, Piney, I found out something quite interesting on
Friday afternoon, twenty six degrees over in Melbourne. Apparent it's
thirty six toes on Saturday, and you know what's going
(13:10):
to happen on Sunday. It's going to rain.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh wow, Well this.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Is great because we and Liam Lawson first got on
an F one cart when he deputized for Daniel Ricardo.
As he broke his hand. It was over in Zandvord
a couple of years ago. It hoes down and he
drove really well because kiwis love driving in the rain,
all really good at So that in itself excites me.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
All right, I've written that down, laws and good in
the wet I've written that down also that that's the
old adage. And you talked about it about getting around
the race track. I mean to finish first. First, you
have to finish, right, It's an old adage in all
sorts of racing, bed, motorsport, horse racing, or even just
running around a track. So okay, let's let's and I
(13:52):
hope we don't have to go down this track. But
if things don't go well for Liam on Sunday, he
either has a DNF or finishes nearer the back of
the field. It's only the first one, isn't it. So
what do we read into success, failure or otherwise this
week in such a long season.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, they'll give them plenty of rope. I don't see
them drop kicking after a couple of bad results at
the start of the season. You also remember that Liam's
never had any experience at Albert Park before. It's never
driven there, which might count for something. There's a number
of other rookies. If you was five other guys who've
not driven before. You know, he's got a couple of
(14:30):
races under his belt. But I think they will give
him some wiggle room, possibly even four races before they
start going, well, you're not doing too well because they're
not afraid Red Ball of drop kicking people. They've done
it before and they'll do it again. So pressure makes diamonds,
as they say when you're talking about cliches.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Jason, that's another good one. Well, okay, I won't worry
about Liam. I am a bit worried about the Warriors
if we can segue to them tonight at go Media
Stadium up against the Sea Eagle, so I thought were
terrific last week and beating the Cowboys forty two twelve,
the Warriors off the back of their less than perfect
opener in Las Vegas. Should I be worried about the
(15:10):
Warriors tonight, I'd say, And this has been very generous
around the Warriores, even the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The Warriors, I've been told to be patient, which we've
talked about this, so I flatly refused to be It's
not on my makeup, but I would say that tonight's
game represents the proper start to the season for the
one he's in on Warriors. This is where it really starts.
I think that Las Vegas was a gimmick. I wasn't
(15:37):
entirely happy with it. I'm still not. I don't think
it means anything. Yeah, competition points on the line. But
now two weeks after that and they've been slapped in
the face, They've had that away experience. The season starts
tonight at home, and so when they get the win,
or if they get the win, I think we're in
a much better position to judge where the Warriors are at.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Right, all right, Yeah, that's well, that's good analysis. Okay,
I'm least worried about the Warriors now, Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Ken to make you worry about something.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You're worried about the Hurricanes, Hurricanes Islanders tonight. Please give
me some hope that the Hurricanes actually look I looked
at the odds for this before we came to wear
a dollar eighty seven h ta B can't split them
coin flip for them. You've got no skin in this game,
Hurricanes Orhighlanders.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I like the Highlanders for this, but the unpopular Highlanders
who always seem to be looking up to the ward
the top of the ladder, but never up there themselves.
I don't think they've got anything to lose in the
way they played the game, and I think the pressure
on Clark and his men is enormous in what we've
seen so far from the Hurricanes, they ain't handling that
very well, like the Blues and the Canes basically sitting
(16:46):
at the foot of the table. This is bizarre. But
what one eight seven apiece? How good is this for
super rugby? That we've got two New Zealand teams and
you can't split them And this is fantastic for people
without any skin in the.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Game, and absolutely and look and no we neither of
us have skin. And tomorrow Knights game Chiefs Blues. You
talked about the Hurricanes needing a bit of a confidence
boost and not being where they should be.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What about the.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Blue They could lose to the Chiefs tomorrow night easily
and they could be what will that be?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
One end four to start the season.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And I think that their Chiefs are much better possession
because they got beaten last week. But it's nigh on
impossible to have beaten Dura in their own backyard. But
that's probably the punch in the nose they needed, not
that they needed one. They're playing very very well, but
they'll return to regular service come that game. It is
in Hamilton as well. FMG Stadium is the Battle of
(17:39):
the Bombays. And again we go back to the pressures
exerted on teams and how they're dealing with them. At
the moment the Hurricanes and the Blues aren't dealing with
them as well. But that can all change in the
space of eighty minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Right it can. Indeed, all right, Well, my brow is furrowed,
but you know what, there's nothing I can do from here.
All I can do is watch tonight my Hurricanes against
the Highlanders, the Warriors against the Sea Eagles when out
of his skin in the game, the Blues against the
Chiefs tomorrow night, and the race Cars on Sunday desk.
And I just say, as I said at the start
(18:12):
of the podcast, I know how much this sport means
to you. I know how long a relationship you've had
with Liam Lawson and his family. It was great to
hear his old man on with you yesterday. Look, I
just hope you enjoy it. I hope you are able
to enjoy it without getting too tense and clenching the
sides of your couch too much.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
It's hard to watch Formula One hiding behind the back
of the couch. I'll tell you that I'm in it
for the joy. I'm in it for the color and
the noise and the sound. When lose come off the track,
it doesn't matter. I'm buying into this one hundred percent.
The tenth New Zealander. Man, he is there. I'm so
so so so calm.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Race cars. Out of the chamber, we go.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
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Speaker 3 (19:02):
And as we exit the chamber, we exit the podcast.
The Sports Fix podcast for today, March fourteen. That is
us for the week, but on Monday, a fresh episode
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Speaker 5 (19:14):
And also on Monday night between seven and eight, Jason
Pine with the actual sports talk you can relate to
because you can talk with us. Jason Pine has got
sports Talk seven and eight Monday, I've got it Tuesday,
wentero A Thursday, Friday Night and of course Piney all
weekend which is happening well. A hop skipp and a
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(19:37):
Looking forward to that one. Piney, You enjoy your weekend,
because I certainly certainly will see you bro.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
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