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Hello there and welcome into a new week and to
a new episode of the Sports Fixed podcast. It is Monday,
June the fifteenth. I'm Jason Pine. Great to have you
listening in on the eve of the All Whites first
game at the twenty twenty six FIFA World Cup. They
take on Ran tomorrow and leave it up to that
game on the podcast today. A man who was a
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huge part of the last World Cup campaign for the
All Whites back in twenty ten, Ivan Visilich, played all
three matches of course, New Zealand unbeaten during that tournament,
and well, what does he remember most about South Africa
twenty ten and what are his hopes for the current
All White side? Ivan Visilitch our special guest on Sports
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Fix Today. Adam Cooper pops into the chamber to kick
around a couple of issues. The Super Rugby Final is
confirmed and what on earth happened in the field for
the White Ferns. Late distance fortune is coming up too,
so let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
In other News.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Let's catch you underway with a look at some of
the big sports stories around today. Lewis Hamilton has claimed
his first Formula One win since switching to Ferrari, the
forty one year old becoming the oldest Grand Prix winner
in fifty six years.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Six hundred and eighty six days have been and gone
and Hamilton is back on the top step of the podium.
Lewis Hamilton wins the Barcelona Catalana.
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Grand Prix and or British podium in fact, with George
Russell and Lando Norris rounding out the top three. Emotional
scenes on Golf's PGA Tour.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Went from thinking will I live to will I play?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So will I win?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes, you will?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Brod Carley breaks through and captis the Canadian Open.
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Here, thirty six year old Bud Corley has claimed us
first PGA Tour win eight years on from a life
threatening car accident, and Kiwi rowers Oliver Welch and Benjamin
Taylor have gone within half a second of beating the
world's best time set by the legendary Hamish Bond and
Eric Murray at the World Cup Regatta in Bulgaria, but they.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Certainly putting the New Zealanders under all of that fresher
privilege that they need to freight those time, It's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
So closed, it's going to be so.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Crazy dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You're listening to the Sports Fix podcast. The All Whites
open their twenty twenty six feet for World Cup campaign
tomorrow afternoon one o'clock at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles,
where they take on Iran before matches in Vancouver against
Egypt and Belgium. It was sixteen years ago to the
day that the All Whites drew one all with Slovakia
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as part of their unbeaten camp at the twenty ten
World Cup. A massive part of that team was Ivan Visilich,
who joins US now. Ivan, sixteen years since the one
old drawer with Slovakia, what stands out the most when
you think about it now?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, good to be here, Thanks Pine for having me. Yeah,
what a special moment that was in sporting history for
New Zealand and great to be to be part of that. Yeah,
memories go back to that late gold just happening, you know,
great crossing there from smout Sea Shane Smouts and then
Winston Regat on the edge of it to nod that
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home and just sent everyone in.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Ruptures and off the.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Bench or running to the sideline going crazy and celebrating.
So yeah, incredible moments, incredible day to be a part
of it. Yeah, it was a great, great time to
be there.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And then of course the one old draw with Italy,
who were at that time defending champions. I mean that
what you know, if Slovaki was amazing, Italy was another
notch up. Again, what is most of it about the
one all draw with Italy for you?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, another incredible performance from the guys.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
You know, the team worked really hard right through the
whole spots really hard, and leading up to that game,
that was a buzz because obviously we've got the result
in the first game, which was special to get a
point at a World Cup, so you know, headed to
the Italy game that the confidence was high. The squad
was strong and physically looking to put in another good
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performance and to come away from the game with one
on with the current Green World champions was a very
special moment. And you know, thinking back now, that's it's
always hard to believe it happened, but obviously you know
something really proud to be part of it, and I
think a great sporting moment for the people watching on
TV or supporting us in the stands. It was a
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really good, incredible time in football.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Certainly was well. The squad of twenty twenty six now
have the opportunity to create their own slice of history
having watched this current or white side develop ive and
what gives you confidence they can make an impact at
this World Cup.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah. Look, it's a really good team, I believe. You know,
it comes across as a young and a bit of
a mix in, but a lot of them have a
lot of experience on the world stage and also at
club level, a lot of games under their belts, so
you know, those are the fundamental parts of the package
that need to be there, and they're coming into this
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tournament with games under their belt. Fitness is good. You know,
there's one or two niggles here and there, but in general,
you know, the team looks to be very strong and
very lot of quality in the team and that's what
brings my excitement up because you know, you had players
like Stumming a shedment for who just dominates games and
we've seen it over the last two or three years.
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You know, Chris Wood is obviously having in an appreable
moment in his career as well. You know, scoring goals
NonStop in the Premier League, which something special. So you
know the ingredients are there, and you know, come game day,
you know that excitement, that buzz of the World Cup.
You know, incredible moments in their careers to be there.
But you know, as soon as that whistle goes, all
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of that in a way as a player on the grass,
goes out of the window, you know, and it's just
got to do your job, got to get everything right,
got to work together and do all that. So it's
it's going to be really interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I can't wait for the kickoff.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah. Indeed, say in that regard, you know how important
are there are the senior players in a group where
there are young young girl players who haven't been on
the stage before. You know, someone like Chris Wood or
you know some of the older players in the team,
even even a Joe beall Acosta Barbarusis, guys who have
been around a bit longer. How important did they to
make sure that Yeah, once that whistle goes, as you say,
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you're not overawed, You're not just thinking, hey, we're just
lucky to be here, that you actually go out there
and try and win football matches.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Yeah, really important. I mean that it's a huge component
of the squad and the makeup of the squad or
any good squad around the world that you want to
have success with. I mean the experience of players playing
at different levels and at different tournaments and big games.
You know, it helps to settle the nerves and settle
the squad leading up to the game. And you know,
now we're talking and were chatting, you know, whether it's
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a whole group chat by themselves as players or just
individually on the training field, you know, one on one
or different players about just getting in the right mindset
and giving that right encouragement and that right signal to
the players on just how to approach a game and
to look forward to it, not to be overawed by it,
and also obviously to enjoy the moment as well.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
How important do you think it is that they get
something out of the first game tomorrow against Iran, even
if it's a point, but just to get themselves going
rather than having to go into the games against Egypt
and Belgium still looking for their first points.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah, of course, in the dream world, we get something
out of every game, and if they can get something
out of the first game, it'll be an incredible performance,
another sporting moment in history for New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
If we can start well in the game, we've just
got a board. I've noticed, you know obviously what the
drinks break now, it's almost a reset, obviously every twenty
two and a half minutes of resets that the boys
can just work from one drink's break to another to
do their best and to stay in the game as
long as they can. And then you know that that
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the nerves will drop off and they'll grow into the
game and you'll you'll get the half chances that we need.
You know, watching the World Cup games now, watching Australia
with their great performance in their opening game, you know
they bided their time during the game. They've played deep
in a bit of a block. You know, they waited
for their moments and could come away for them. With
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the two results, I'm dissing you know what's the old
squad with the New Zealand boys heads, it's just going
to give them a little bit of confidence as well themselves.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
You guys made history. You reckon. These guys can.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Too, Okay, I think they can.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I think it's a group, as I mentioned, with quality
within the squad. Every player needs to play well, everyone
needs to do their best. Those little moments in the
game need to go away a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But there's no reason why we can't.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I mean, we've got keen with players all around the
world playing at top teams and doing well individually and collectively,
so there's no reason why that can't come together as
a team. And you know they've got to make it
of it, which is great.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
YEP. Can't wait to see how it plays out tomorrow
in their first game against Iran. Ivan, thanks so much
for joining us, mate, really appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's Ivan Visselich, former All White All White Legend, joining
us on the Sports Fix podcast sports Fix. The big
news of the sporting weekend was Kane Williamson's retirement from
international cricket mid Series in England, with a mouthwatering test
schedule over the next seven months, including a four test
tour of Australia the one Unconquered Frontier for this New
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Zealand Test team and with him on the cusp of
joining a very exclusive group of cricketers who have scored
ten thousand Test runs. So why would Kane Williamson pulled
stumps now? Well, firstly, he's never been motivated by personal numbers.
I don't reckon he could tell you how many Tests
runs he scored, But I reckon he might be able
to tell you about the Test victories he's been a
part of. And that's where he is very different from
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the only other player who could challenge Kane Williamson as
our greatest ever cricketer, Sir Richard Hadley, who was tremendously
stats driven and his quest to reach personal milestones was
of immense benefit to New Zealand. In fact, he wanted
to chase those stats help the teams he played achieve
amazing things. Two very different players, two very different approaches
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to equally effective methods. But I don't reckon came Williamson
would have thought, for a second look, if I hang around,
I can bring up ten thousand Test runs. He would
have thought what's best for the team. If the best
thing for the team was for him not to play,
he'd happily have carried the drinks. That was never in
question of course, he was always in the team. If
he was ninety nine not out, and the best thing
for the team was to declare, he would have declared.
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If he got a dark in the team won, he
would have been much happier than if he got a
double hundred and they lost. His personal numbers were only
relevant in the context of what those numbers, those runs
contributed to what the team achieved, and in a sport
whereas so much about stats and players live and die
by their numbers, they were almost completely incidental to him.
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I got a great message over the weekend saying Cain
was a superstar who never wanted to be a superstar,
and that sums it up pretty well. In the most
individual of team sports, he was never anything other than
the ultimate team man, and we as fans, were very
lucky to have him to witness his greatness, to benefit
from his genius, and to enjoy his generational cricketing ability.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Sports Fax.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Coming up next on the Sports Fixed podcast, Adam Cooper
joins me in the Chamber. We talked Super Rugby and
the White Ferns.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
On the sports Fix podcast, Let's pop inside the Chamber
where sporting matters are discussed on a Monday, joined by
head of News Talk Tobby Sport in Wellington, Adam Cooper.
Is Wellington going to be title town a Super Rugby
final for the first time since twenty sixteen? The Chiefs
will visit on Saturday night. Two best teams are in
the final, aren't they?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
By far?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
What a weekend of Super Rugby? All be at one
side as Super Rugby contests. But I think anyone, whether
you're in the White Cutter or Wellington or anywhere around
the country will probably agree, some people in a more
disappointing fashion than others, that these are the best two
teams from the whole season that have made it to
the final dance. And I think that's what you want
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right from the season. The Hurricanes have set the standards
season been at that top end of the table. The
Chiefs have been there or thereabouts. They had time at
the top of the table at various points through the competition.
Goodness me, the way the Chiefs burst through that final
against our semi final against the Crusaders in Hamilton the
other night was very impressive and certainly showing that they
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will come to Wellington and prose a real threat to
the Hurricanes, who themselves they've had you know the Brumbies
where they thrash them in the qualifying finals and the
end it was a thrashing over the Blues. It didn't
come easy to start with, did it. But you know
the fact that they have put almost sixty points on
the Blues in a semi final as well, when things
were pretty even earlier on in that game just just
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shows when they put their foot down they can ready
get there. God, it's going to be hard to predict.
So I don't know how the tab are going to
sort of distinguish between these two teams. So this one,
do you go with the Hurricanes because of the home
advantage and the consistency through the season. I mean, that'll
be tough on the Chiefs. They wouldn't it based on
what they showed the other night against a pretty disappointing
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Crusaders team. So so exciting for both these franchises, who,
for different reasons. I think Piney have points to proved,
don't the Chiefs with their unsuccessful attempts in Grand finals
For the last three years, the Hurricanes haven't had a title,
haven't even been in a final. Since twenty sixteen. Both
will be absolutely desperate for this win.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I just wonder about the Chiefs and what exactly the
point you landed on there. They've been in the last
three Grand finals without winning any of them. But they've
been in the last three Grand finals, so they have
the experience around preparing and playing in the biggest game
of the season, which the Hurricanes don't have. But how
much of a monkey on your back does it become
if the Hurricanes were to get ahead by ten, let's say,
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in the second half, do the Chiefs think, my goodness,
we're never going to win one of these things. We're
just destined not to win one. How much does it
galvanize you, how much does it play on your mind?
I don't know what the answer is. I would imagine
the Hurricanes would open as favorites by virtue of being
at home and the attacking weaponry they have. No team's
ever got one hundred tries in a season the Hurricanes have.
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They seem to have amazing depth. I think they'll be favorite.
But for me, the game itself could be a corn
flood totally.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I mean, I'd love to as a Hurricanes fan, to
be here on a Monday thinking we're the best chance
to win this, but I couldn't confidently say that. I
just think you know that the Chiefs have come here
to Wellington two years ago in the semi finals and
did the same thing. But the Hurricanes had been that
standout team just like last year. So you just can't
predict this. But that's exactly what you want in a final.
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I hope for the event's sake that Wellington gets inundated
with Chiefs fans that make the trip down to really
make it a great atmosphere at at Henry Stadium. Ticket sales,
I know that the tickets actually aren't too expensive forty
bucks some of them, which I think is great from
the Hurricanes to show actually, this is not the FEFA
World Cut, this is not the NBA Finals. We're actually
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making it affordable for us to see, you know, a
lot of the best rugby players in the country battle
it out this weekend, which I think is great too.
I think it'll be a real disappointment for a bunch
of reasons if we don't see every single seat snapped
up match on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I mean, if you can't sell at a grand fine
or then when are you going to sell out a
game of rugby at any stadium your banging on cups.
I mean, if it doesn't sell out, I think there's
something seriously wrong. Anyway, we'll no doubt monitor the ticket
sales and the team news across the week. The White Ferns.
I watched this game on Saturday morning when they played
the West Indies in the first game and the defense
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of their T twenty World Cup and one sixty two
for six New Zealand. You know, you think, okay, that's defendable,
and ordinarily it would be if you held your catches.
I couldn't believe the number of catches the White Ferns
put down. Maybe they put that down to a bad
day at the office, but it really cost them, didn't it.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I mean absolutely? I mean it's an embarrassing way to
begin your titled a defense proper. There's been some glitters
of hope and some of the pre tournament matches they've
played against various teams, but goodness me, at what number
does it get to where it's not just a coincidence
and you start to think have they even been practicing
the catching or you know, what kind of drills have
they been doing? To force those those basic mistakes. And
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it just seems to happen with this White fan's team
time and time again, just their certain strong aspects of
their game are let down by other aspects. And sometimes
it's with the bat you see. You know that the
top order gets skittled very cheaply, all collectively, all at once.
And this time and the World Cup over and England
we've seen them start off with the catches just just
not going to plans. So yeah, such a disappointing way
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to build some confidence early on. You shouldn't be based
on form, you know, you shouldn't be losing to the
West Indies so comprehensively early on.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, indeed, so you've got to finish in the top
two in the group two, and there are six in
the group England, Scotland, the West Indies, New Zealand, Ireland
and Sri Lanka. Serving lost to the West Indies, you
probably now have to win the majority of your other matches,
including England as we know, a superpower, particularly at home.
Otherwise your title defense doesn't even get to the semi
final stages. I guess on the positive side of things,
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it could hardly get worse from a fielding point of
view anyway. Always great chatting in the chamber with your coops.
Thanks for stopping in.
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