On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 8th December 2025, The Blackcaps fast bowling stocks are fairly depleted. Canterbury quick Michael Rae has been called into the squad ahead of the second test against the West Indies. Piney caught up with his First Class coach Peter Fulton to discuss how ready for the big stage he is
Piney discusses the All Whites World Cup draw and potential knockout opponents should they advance that far
Plus, Clay Wilson is in the chamber discussing another Auckland FC win over the Wellington Phoenix
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello Down, Welcome into a new week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome into a fresh episode of Sports Fix and association
with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
My name's Jason Pine. It is Monday, December the eighth,
and there is a lot to talk about on Sports
Fix today. The black Caps bowling stocks, in particular their
seam bowling stocks are starting to look a little thin,
(00:44):
particularly given the fact that Matt Henry and Nathan Smith,
who both started the first Test against the West Indies
in christ Church, have been ruled out.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
For the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Add to that the likes of Willow Rourke, Ben Sears,
Kyle Jamison not being available and others have probably missed
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Michael Ray has.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Been called into the Test squad, the former Otago and
now Canterbury fast bowler. How prepared and eddie is he
for Test cricket? His domestic coach is Peter Fulton. He's
on the podcast today. Clay Wilson pops into the Chamber
to kick around some Black Caps issues and the A
League derby and the latest in.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sports news coming your way too, so let's get into it.
In other news, let's get under as.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Always for the look at some of the big sports
stories around today. We have a new Formula one World champion,
Brent Lando Norris has won the Driver's championship for the
first time by two points. After finishing third in the
season ending racing Abu Dhabi.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Random Norris crosses the line and for the first time
in his racing career.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Here's Formula one SHIPIENI. The Worlds Australia have won the
second Ashes Cricket Test and Brisbane by eight wickets, chasing
down the sixty five run target on day four.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Smith takes to the winner in the seats, up raise
his head his pudcat.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They go ahead too.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
There and Crystal Palace have moved into the Premier League's
top four after a two to one win over London
neighbors Fulham at Craven Cottage.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The Eagles have landed it a place in the top
four bets after Mark Kaye's late winner on yet another
day of fine margins in the Premier League.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Dissecting the sporting Agenda. It's SPORTSFX with Jason Vine.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're listening to the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Canterbury past bowler Michael Ray is in line for a
Test debuo in the second Test against the West Indies
starting on Wednesday at the Basin.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Reserve.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Pace bowlers Matt Henry and Nathan Smith have been ruled
out of the rest of the series with calf and
side strain injuries respectively. Michael Ray has been called into
the squad. His provincial coach at Canterbury is former Test
batsman Peter Fulton, who joins US now. Peter, did you
think that perhaps Michael Ray's opportunity to play Test cricket
(03:05):
might have passed him by?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I suppose, you know, when you look around the caliber
bowlers that are, you know that have been playing for
New Zealand in recent years. Yeah, I suppose it's it's
a pretty tough team to get into. But we we
did actually have the conversation with them at the end
of last season when he was bowling really well. He
played a game towards the back end of the season
(03:28):
he got he got six six wickets at Hagley against
Central Districts and Tom Latham played that game and I
remember saying to him, you know, like, you know, you've
got the New Zealand Test captain standing at second slip
and the way bold you know, like I said, particularly
last season, the back half of the season was really impressive.
So yeah, you just you just never know. And the
(03:50):
reality is for most guys when they make it, when
they make their debuts because someone else is injured or unavailable,
that's generally sort of how it works. And I suppose
it's what you do with that opportunity to count.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
How then do you assess his readiness to take the
step up to taste cricket.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Look, I definitely think he's ready. He's been really impressive
the last two or three years since he since he
moved to Canterbury. You know, he's got he's got height,
he gets good bounce, he he can you know, he'll
I would imagine, you know, he'll be he'll be bowling
in the mid mid mid one thirties and he can
push up towards one forty when he when he's when
(04:27):
he's really going at full noise. So got all the skills.
You know, he's a he's a real competitor, just loves
just loves getting in the battle, So yeah, I have
no doubt. I have no doubt he'll you know, he'll
do a really good job.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You mentioned that before about the conversation you had with them,
you know, saying, hey, if you can impress here the
you know, the the selectors may come calling. So do
you specifically speak to your Canterbury players about their international ambitions?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, most of them. I mean a lot of the guys,
A lot of the guys. You know, at various times
we'll ask you where you know, where where where they
where they may sit or you know, as a where
we see them sitting in the in the pecking order
and things like that, whether it's playing for the black
Caps or playing for New Zealand day that sort of thing.
(05:17):
So yeah, I mean a lot of the time, the
message is pretty simple. It's just keep trying to get better,
keep trying to improve, you know, don't look too far
ahead and worry about am I going to get picked?
And I'm not going to get picked. Just keep trying
to get better and perform at this level. And like
I said, if you do that over a period of time,
then good things can happen.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, it's an interesting comment. You make there, Because Michael
Ray said exactly that today in his media session. He
said he was too worried for a while about hey,
am I good enough to make the black Caps? Am
I doing the right things to make the black Caps?
And when he stopped thinking that way and just started
enjoying his cricket Again. It sounds cliche, but this opportunity
has come along. Is that common to see that sort
of thing that guys get so wrapped up and thinking,
(05:57):
hey are they watching me that they don't, you know,
really focus on the reason they playing the game in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I'd say most you know, a lot
of guys at this level are either so so I
guess worried about their own performance or looking around the
looking around the circuit and worrying about what other guys
that are doing that they perceive they're in competition with. Yeah,
like I said, it's it's it's pretty common. And yeah,
(06:25):
the ones who can the ones who can figure that out,
you know, quicker than others generally, the ones that you
give themselves a chance of having success.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So if you have to leave your game against CD
halfway through, yes, yes he did.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Him and Mitch hay both both left. Both finished up
after day two, which yeah, not not not probably an
ideal situation for us as a team. But but the
guys were. The guys were absolutely delighted for both of them,
just like I said, a really cool moment and something
that you know, we obviously at Canery we encourage the
guys as much as they all love playing first class
(06:59):
cricket for Canterbury. The ultimate is you know, is definitely
still playing for for your country.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, Mitch hayes the other one, isn't he and by
the sounds of a hill deebo as well, unless Tom
Blundell has a remarkable recovery from a hamstring injury. But
I mean he's been talked about for a while, hasn't
he faults he's ready for Test cricket.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Mitch hay Yeah, one hundred percent. He's you know, he's
averaging almost fifty in first class cricket. He's at times
at times for us when he first came on the scene,
he opened the batting and Red Bull Crickets wish it
keeping is excellent. So again another one who I have
no doubt is ready and again everything he does is
(07:39):
you know, he's a real professional, works hard, he's a
fast learner. Yeah, he's got all the skills as well.
So again another one. I won't be surprised if he
performs really well.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And Gie, you've got plenty down there, Zach folks. The
other one, Bolt has well had his first test on
homes on his home ground over the last five days
or so, thirty three overs in that second innings the
other day because of the depleted bowling attack.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
He's young, know, isn't it. He can bounce back from that.
He'll recover in time for Wednesday, surely.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, hopefully he recovers in time. Yeah. Look again, a
unique situation. And yeah, like I said, those him and
Jacob Duffy in particular, you know, did an amazing job
to boil that many overs in the and the innings
and in the matches. Yeah, it's pretty hard to comprehend, really,
So fingers crossed. They're all good, and you know, I'm sure,
(08:32):
I'm sure probably they'll be. They'll be hoping there's maybe
a little bit more assistance in the in the in
the base of reserve wikip you during.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
This game, let's hope.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So good to chat, Peter, Thanks so much, Peter, Fulton,
Canterbury coach ahead of a couple of his players potentially
debuo and for New Zealand and the Test Arena this
coming weeks well. After a rather long and drawn out
process on Saturday morning at the Lavish draw in Washington,
d C, we now know who the All Whites will
face at next year's FIFA World Cup. We know the dates,
(09:05):
we know the opponents, we know the venues. New Zealand
with the last ball pulled out actually, of the forty
eight teams, ours was the forty eighth ball to be
drawn out and landing in Group G, and so they
will take on Iran in Los Angeles, Egypt in Vancouver,
and Belgium also in Vancouver. This is a pretty decent draw. Yes,
(09:28):
it could have been better, but it could have been
a heck of a lot worse than this. No South
American sides. That is a huge plus as far as
the All Whites are concerned. We never do well against
South American sides. They always seem to punch above their
weight at World Cup time. Feverish supports are staying away
from them. Is a very good result. The All Whites
have also avoided one of the four groups where there
(09:50):
will be two European sides. We know the strength of
European football, so to have two sides from Europe in
your group would have been problematic as well. Then you
look at the teams. We are up against Iran number
twenty in the world, Egypt number thirty four in the world.
For context, we are eighty sixth. But once you get
above thirty or forty in the world rankings, it is
(10:12):
very much throwing a blanket situation over a bunch of teams,
especially in a one off situation. New Zealand will absolutely
believe that they can get something out of the games
against Iran and Egypt. Belgium is a bit of a
free hit number eight in the world, not really expected
to do much against them, so whoever came out of
(10:32):
Pot one was always going to be difficult. It might
as well have been Belgium if it was going to
be anybody. The other helpful part of this is being
on the Western seaboard will encourage a lot more New
Zealand football fans to perhaps consider making the trip to
support the All Whites. LA and Vancouver both just a
direct flight away from Auckland. So let's hope for plenty
(10:53):
of all Whites fans in the stands in June of
next year. And what about this for a scenario, if
New Zealand were to finish second in this group and
Australia come second in their group, New Zealand would play
Australia in a round of thirty two match at a
fee for World Cup. Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
On the Sports Fix podcast, time to kick around a
few sporting issues inside the Chamber, head of Sported News
talks he'd be Clay Wilson is with us.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not sure many.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Of us thought that the West Indies would put up
the fight that they did in the first Test at Hagleoval. Clay,
were you surprised that they showed so much fight and
solidity and were unable to be budged on day five?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
In part?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, And then if you put it into context and
think about the circumstances the black Caps were put in
and the fact that two seam bowlers had to bowl
upwards of forty or more overs. Michael Bracewell bought fifty
five hours because of course Matt Henry went down in
the first innings and Nathan Smith two of your seam bowlers.
(12:01):
That puts a heck of a load onto two other
you know, your two other remaining seamers and the rest
of the bowling attack. Now, would I have still expected
the black Caps to go on and win going into
the final day with the West Indies four down, you
need six wickets. You think they find a way to
do it inevitably, but they haven't. And you know, all
you can do really is take your hats off to
(12:22):
the likes of Shay Hope, Justin Graves and Kamar Roach.
You know, a veteran zine bowler standing up with the
bat like that and quite a benign hegli oval surface
really wasn't even on the fifth day. So I don't
think you take anything away from the West Indies. And
you say the black Caps probably should have won, But
in the end, kind of the circumstances did fall in
(12:44):
the way of the West Indies to give them the
chance to go on and do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That indeed, And I don't think the black Caps help
themselves with a couple of drop catches, or be at
a couple of difficult ones, but also burning some reviews
which might have been useful later.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That wasn't don't get me started, all right, all the way.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
What instead I'll do is I'll look forward because the
injuries to Henry and Smith and also Mitchell Santner and
highly likely Tom Blundell, we'll see that quartet missed the
rest of the Test series. Now there's cover for Blundell
and there's cover for Santana. But now we're in the
situation where Jacob Duffy who has just played his second Test,
Zach Folks who has just played his second Test, going
(13:21):
to be joined by Michael Ray probably on Test ABU.
So such a green seam bowling attack for probably the
next two Test matches against the West Indies side that
have shown themselves to be a reasonably good batting unit.
So we're not in danger of losing this Test series,
are we? But can we still win it well?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
And I would add to what you've outlined there that
because of the circumstances, both Jacob Duffy and Zach Folks
are coming off bowling a huge amount of OSes. Yes
in a test context, to then back up, yes, they
get a few days break, but to expect them to
go in and perform at the same kind of level
Now could they do it, yes, But Zack Folks particularly
(14:04):
is still a young man. Jacob Duffy I think thirty now,
so you know, not old by any stretch, but for
any bowler that's a massive task to back that up.
And if the West Endies are ever going to have
a chance, you know, in recent times, to win a
Test match in New Zealand, this is surely their opportunity,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Absolutely yep?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
They're playing that. While they haven't won many games out here,
and they pushed the black Caps right throughout that One
day series, they clearly had a chance of winning that
Test match and very improbable circumstances. I think that every chance.
I think it makes it very much kind of a
fifty to fifty contest from here in terms of not
only are the Tests coming up, but the series in general.
(14:44):
The West Indies have got to be saying, hey, boys,
come on, this is our opportunity. Let's really have a crack.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yep, and I'm sure they will. On the positive side
for New Zealand, Daryl Mitchell will be available, as will
Glenn Phillips. Now this is an interesting one for me,
Clay and that Glen Phillips also off as you've spin bowling.
I know it's the second string to his bow, but
he got five for at the base and not that
long ago in a Test match. So I wonder, you know,
I think Mitchell will come back and I don't think
there's any argument there. I just wonder whether Phllips also
(15:09):
comes back in Will Young perhaps drops out and Phillips,
along with Bracewell and Ravendra, gives you three spinners to
compliment this very green seam attack.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, And I think if you ask Glen Phillips, he
would insist to you that he is a front line
spin bowler. It takes great pride in his in the
development of his craft with the ball, and yes, I
think that makes sense. And I think, you know, like
you say, with what he gives you in the batting
side of things, and his spin bowling has come a
long way and I don't think you lose much elsewhere,
(15:41):
So I think that's the logical option. I also think
maybe they were thinking this way anyway. You know, they
brought him in midway through that first Test to be
back part of the camp, which was to me kind
of a signal that they were leaning towards putting him
straight back in for the second Test once he was
ready to go. So I feel like that's the way
they'll go, and I feel like that's probably the way
I would go as well.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Indeed, second Test starts at the base from Reserve and
Wellington on Wednesday. Just a word on the derby. When
are the Wellington Phoenix going to win one of these things?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Clay?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Can you give me any light at the end of
this long dark tunnel as far as Wellington Phoenix fans
are concerned.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Well, I hope for your sake, Pioney, for your morale,
for your kind of love and an enthusiasm, for football's sake,
that it does come soon, because you know, for you
having to be so heavily involved with these games, I'm
sure as a task in itself. And I must add
you've done a tremendous job to hold your objectivity and
(16:37):
been a true professional throwout because most football fans, most
sport fans, if their team was suffering in this way,
would have fallen over a long time ago. But yeah, look,
I mean I think a lot of people were thinking
ahead of Saturday's game, surely the Phoenix are going to
get at least something out of a game. You know,
they can't.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
They can't.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
They can't go five without winning one or getting a
point out of one. But man, it just seems like
the longer it goes on, it's more of a mental
block for the Phoenix. Now, look, they can they win
the third game down in Wellington, Yes they can. They
are a good enough team. We've seen that from the
Phoenix and we've perhaps seen Auckland. You know they might
kick on, but are you know, they're not quite the
(17:17):
sort of force they were last season yet. But man,
isn't it It's just crazy to see. You have to
think it's not entirely tactical, and you know, the players
that are out on the pitch, there's there's got to
be a big mental factor at play here, doesn't it?
Not only for the players, but you know, you look
at jian Carlo Teliano as well. Now, man a penny
for his thoughts and what was going around in his
(17:39):
brain after that game, because there's been so much back
and forth about this fixture and to go on like
this must just get harder and harder every time.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Oh, absolutely, And I wonder about the mental scars as well,
particularly for the Phoenix players. When you think when they
went to one down with you know, fifteen minutes to go,
do they think to themselves, man, we're going to lose
another one. And as far as Allkland left see you're concerned.
You know they must have a huge confidence that if
they get ahead in the game, which they did on
the weekend they were pegged back but then went to
ahead again, that you know that the football gods are
on their side as far as this derby is concerned.
(18:10):
But yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't want at one stage.
Maybe once I give commentary up in the year twenty
forty two, they might.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
They might eventually.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Maybe I'm the problem. Maybe I'm the problem, Clay, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, before you retire, I reckon, I'll get How about that?
Does that make you feel better?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It does?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It makes me feel a lot more comfortable. Great to
have you in the chamber of the day, mate, Thank
you for stopping in pleasure a X.
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Hello Down, Welcome into a new week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome into a fresh episode of Sports Fix and association
with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
My name's Jason Pine. It is Monday, December the eighth,
and there is a lot to talk about on Sports
Fix today. The black Caps bowling stocks, in particular their
seam bowling stocks are starting to look a little thin,
(00:44):
particularly given the fact that Matt Henry and Nathan Smith,
who both started the first Test against the West Indies
in christ Church, have been ruled out.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
For the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Add to that the likes of Willow Rourke, Ben Sears,
Kyle Jamison not being available and others have probably missed
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Michael Ray has.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Been called into the Test squad, the former Otago and
now Canterbury fast bowler. How prepared and eddie is he
for Test cricket? His domestic coach is Peter Fulton. He's
on the podcast today. Clay Wilson pops into the Chamber
to kick around some Black Caps issues and the A
League derby and the latest in.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sports news coming your way too, so let's get into it.
In other news, let's get under as.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Always for the look at some of the big sports
stories around today. We have a new Formula one World champion,
Brent Lando Norris has won the Driver's championship for the
first time by two points. After finishing third in the
season ending racing Abu Dhabi.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Random Norris crosses the line and for the first time
in his racing career.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Here's Formula one SHIPIENI. The Worlds Australia have won the
second Ashes Cricket Test and Brisbane by eight wickets, chasing
down the sixty five run target on day four.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Smith takes to the winner in the seats, up raise
his head his pudcat.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They go ahead too.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
There and Crystal Palace have moved into the Premier League's
top four after a two to one win over London
neighbors Fulham at Craven Cottage.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The Eagles have landed it a place in the top
four bets after Mark Kaye's late winner on yet another
day of fine margins in the Premier League.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Dissecting the sporting Agenda. It's SPORTSFX with Jason Vine.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're listening to the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Canterbury past bowler Michael Ray is in line for a
Test debuo in the second Test against the West Indies
starting on Wednesday at the Basin.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Reserve.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Pace bowlers Matt Henry and Nathan Smith have been ruled
out of the rest of the series with calf and
side strain injuries respectively. Michael Ray has been called into
the squad. His provincial coach at Canterbury is former Test
batsman Peter Fulton, who joins US now. Peter, did you
think that perhaps Michael Ray's opportunity to play Test cricket
(03:05):
might have passed him by?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I suppose, you know, when you look around the caliber
bowlers that are, you know that have been playing for
New Zealand in recent years. Yeah, I suppose it's it's
a pretty tough team to get into. But we we
did actually have the conversation with them at the end
of last season when he was bowling really well. He
played a game towards the back end of the season
(03:28):
he got he got six six wickets at Hagley against
Central Districts and Tom Latham played that game and I
remember saying to him, you know, like, you know, you've
got the New Zealand Test captain standing at second slip
and the way bold you know, like I said, particularly
last season, the back half of the season was really impressive.
So yeah, you just you just never know. And the
(03:50):
reality is for most guys when they make it, when
they make their debuts because someone else is injured or unavailable,
that's generally sort of how it works. And I suppose
it's what you do with that opportunity to count.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
How then do you assess his readiness to take the
step up to taste cricket.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Look, I definitely think he's ready. He's been really impressive
the last two or three years since he since he
moved to Canterbury. You know, he's got he's got height,
he gets good bounce, he he can you know, he'll
I would imagine, you know, he'll be he'll be bowling
in the mid mid mid one thirties and he can
push up towards one forty when he when he's when
(04:27):
he's really going at full noise. So got all the skills.
You know, he's a he's a real competitor, just loves
just loves getting in the battle, So yeah, I have
no doubt. I have no doubt he'll you know, he'll
do a really good job.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You mentioned that before about the conversation you had with them,
you know, saying, hey, if you can impress here the
you know, the the selectors may come calling. So do
you specifically speak to your Canterbury players about their international ambitions?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, most of them. I mean a lot of the guys,
A lot of the guys. You know, at various times
we'll ask you where you know, where where where they
where they may sit or you know, as a where
we see them sitting in the in the pecking order
and things like that, whether it's playing for the black
Caps or playing for New Zealand day that sort of thing.
(05:17):
So yeah, I mean a lot of the time, the
message is pretty simple. It's just keep trying to get better,
keep trying to improve, you know, don't look too far
ahead and worry about am I going to get picked?
And I'm not going to get picked. Just keep trying
to get better and perform at this level. And like
I said, if you do that over a period of time,
then good things can happen.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, it's an interesting comment. You make there, Because Michael
Ray said exactly that today in his media session. He
said he was too worried for a while about hey,
am I good enough to make the black Caps? Am
I doing the right things to make the black Caps?
And when he stopped thinking that way and just started
enjoying his cricket Again. It sounds cliche, but this opportunity
has come along. Is that common to see that sort
of thing that guys get so wrapped up and thinking,
(05:57):
hey are they watching me that they don't, you know,
really focus on the reason they playing the game in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I'd say most you know, a lot
of guys at this level are either so so I
guess worried about their own performance or looking around the
looking around the circuit and worrying about what other guys
that are doing that they perceive they're in competition with. Yeah,
like I said, it's it's it's pretty common. And yeah,
(06:25):
the ones who can the ones who can figure that out,
you know, quicker than others generally, the ones that you
give themselves a chance of having success.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So if you have to leave your game against CD
halfway through, yes, yes he did.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Him and Mitch hay both both left. Both finished up
after day two, which yeah, not not not probably an
ideal situation for us as a team. But but the
guys were. The guys were absolutely delighted for both of them,
just like I said, a really cool moment and something
that you know, we obviously at Canery we encourage the
guys as much as they all love playing first class
(06:59):
cricket for Canterbury. The ultimate is you know, is definitely
still playing for for your country.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, Mitch hayes the other one, isn't he and by
the sounds of a hill deebo as well, unless Tom
Blundell has a remarkable recovery from a hamstring injury. But
I mean he's been talked about for a while, hasn't
he faults he's ready for Test cricket.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Mitch hay Yeah, one hundred percent. He's you know, he's
averaging almost fifty in first class cricket. He's at times
at times for us when he first came on the scene,
he opened the batting and Red Bull Crickets wish it
keeping is excellent. So again another one who I have
no doubt is ready and again everything he does is
(07:39):
you know, he's a real professional, works hard, he's a
fast learner. Yeah, he's got all the skills as well.
So again another one. I won't be surprised if he
performs really well.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And Gie, you've got plenty down there, Zach folks. The
other one, Bolt has well had his first test on
homes on his home ground over the last five days
or so, thirty three overs in that second innings the
other day because of the depleted bowling attack.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
He's young, know, isn't it. He can bounce back from that.
He'll recover in time for Wednesday, surely.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, hopefully he recovers in time. Yeah. Look again, a
unique situation. And yeah, like I said, those him and
Jacob Duffy in particular, you know, did an amazing job
to boil that many overs in the and the innings
and in the matches. Yeah, it's pretty hard to comprehend, really,
So fingers crossed. They're all good, and you know, I'm sure,
(08:32):
I'm sure probably they'll be. They'll be hoping there's maybe
a little bit more assistance in the in the in
the base of reserve wikip you during.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
This game, let's hope.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So good to chat, Peter, Thanks so much, Peter, Fulton,
Canterbury coach ahead of a couple of his players potentially
debuo and for New Zealand and the Test Arena this
coming weeks well. After a rather long and drawn out
process on Saturday morning at the Lavish draw in Washington,
d C, we now know who the All Whites will
face at next year's FIFA World Cup. We know the dates,
(09:05):
we know the opponents, we know the venues. New Zealand
with the last ball pulled out actually, of the forty
eight teams, ours was the forty eighth ball to be
drawn out and landing in Group G, and so they
will take on Iran in Los Angeles, Egypt in Vancouver,
and Belgium also in Vancouver. This is a pretty decent draw. Yes,
(09:28):
it could have been better, but it could have been
a heck of a lot worse than this. No South
American sides. That is a huge plus as far as
the All Whites are concerned. We never do well against
South American sides. They always seem to punch above their
weight at World Cup time. Feverish supports are staying away
from them. Is a very good result. The All Whites
have also avoided one of the four groups where there
(09:50):
will be two European sides. We know the strength of
European football, so to have two sides from Europe in
your group would have been problematic as well. Then you
look at the teams. We are up against Iran number
twenty in the world, Egypt number thirty four in the world.
For context, we are eighty sixth. But once you get
above thirty or forty in the world rankings, it is
(10:12):
very much throwing a blanket situation over a bunch of teams,
especially in a one off situation. New Zealand will absolutely
believe that they can get something out of the games
against Iran and Egypt. Belgium is a bit of a
free hit number eight in the world, not really expected
to do much against them, so whoever came out of
(10:32):
Pot one was always going to be difficult. It might
as well have been Belgium if it was going to
be anybody. The other helpful part of this is being
on the Western seaboard will encourage a lot more New
Zealand football fans to perhaps consider making the trip to
support the All Whites. LA and Vancouver both just a
direct flight away from Auckland. So let's hope for plenty
(10:53):
of all Whites fans in the stands in June of
next year. And what about this for a scenario, if
New Zealand were to finish second in this group and
Australia come second in their group, New Zealand would play
Australia in a round of thirty two match at a
fee for World Cup. Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
On the Sports Fix podcast, time to kick around a
few sporting issues inside the Chamber, head of Sported News
talks he'd be Clay Wilson is with us.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not sure many.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Of us thought that the West Indies would put up
the fight that they did in the first Test at Hagleoval. Clay,
were you surprised that they showed so much fight and
solidity and were unable to be budged on day five?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
In part?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, And then if you put it into context and
think about the circumstances the black Caps were put in
and the fact that two seam bowlers had to bowl
upwards of forty or more overs. Michael Bracewell bought fifty
five hours because of course Matt Henry went down in
the first innings and Nathan Smith two of your seam bowlers.
(12:01):
That puts a heck of a load onto two other
you know, your two other remaining seamers and the rest
of the bowling attack. Now, would I have still expected
the black Caps to go on and win going into
the final day with the West Indies four down, you
need six wickets. You think they find a way to
do it inevitably, but they haven't. And you know, all
you can do really is take your hats off to
(12:22):
the likes of Shay Hope, Justin Graves and Kamar Roach.
You know, a veteran zine bowler standing up with the
bat like that and quite a benign hegli oval surface
really wasn't even on the fifth day. So I don't
think you take anything away from the West Indies. And
you say the black Caps probably should have won, But
in the end, kind of the circumstances did fall in
(12:44):
the way of the West Indies to give them the
chance to go on and do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That indeed, And I don't think the black Caps help
themselves with a couple of drop catches, or be at
a couple of difficult ones, but also burning some reviews
which might have been useful later.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That wasn't don't get me started, all right, all the way.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
What instead I'll do is I'll look forward because the
injuries to Henry and Smith and also Mitchell Santner and
highly likely Tom Blundell, we'll see that quartet missed the
rest of the Test series. Now there's cover for Blundell
and there's cover for Santana. But now we're in the
situation where Jacob Duffy who has just played his second Test,
Zach Folks who has just played his second Test, going
(13:21):
to be joined by Michael Ray probably on Test ABU.
So such a green seam bowling attack for probably the
next two Test matches against the West Indies side that
have shown themselves to be a reasonably good batting unit.
So we're not in danger of losing this Test series,
are we? But can we still win it well?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
And I would add to what you've outlined there that
because of the circumstances, both Jacob Duffy and Zach Folks
are coming off bowling a huge amount of OSes. Yes
in a test context, to then back up, yes, they
get a few days break, but to expect them to
go in and perform at the same kind of level
Now could they do it, yes, But Zack Folks particularly
(14:04):
is still a young man. Jacob Duffy I think thirty now,
so you know, not old by any stretch, but for
any bowler that's a massive task to back that up.
And if the West Endies are ever going to have
a chance, you know, in recent times, to win a
Test match in New Zealand, this is surely their opportunity,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Absolutely yep?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
They're playing that. While they haven't won many games out here,
and they pushed the black Caps right throughout that One
day series, they clearly had a chance of winning that
Test match and very improbable circumstances. I think that every chance.
I think it makes it very much kind of a
fifty to fifty contest from here in terms of not
only are the Tests coming up, but the series in general.
(14:44):
The West Indies have got to be saying, hey, boys,
come on, this is our opportunity. Let's really have a crack.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yep, and I'm sure they will. On the positive side
for New Zealand, Daryl Mitchell will be available, as will
Glenn Phillips. Now this is an interesting one for me,
Clay and that Glen Phillips also off as you've spin bowling.
I know it's the second string to his bow, but
he got five for at the base and not that
long ago in a Test match. So I wonder, you know,
I think Mitchell will come back and I don't think
there's any argument there. I just wonder whether Phllips also
(15:09):
comes back in Will Young perhaps drops out and Phillips,
along with Bracewell and Ravendra, gives you three spinners to
compliment this very green seam attack.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, And I think if you ask Glen Phillips, he
would insist to you that he is a front line
spin bowler. It takes great pride in his in the
development of his craft with the ball, and yes, I
think that makes sense. And I think, you know, like
you say, with what he gives you in the batting
side of things, and his spin bowling has come a
long way and I don't think you lose much elsewhere,
(15:41):
So I think that's the logical option. I also think
maybe they were thinking this way anyway. You know, they
brought him in midway through that first Test to be
back part of the camp, which was to me kind
of a signal that they were leaning towards putting him
straight back in for the second Test once he was
ready to go. So I feel like that's the way
they'll go, and I feel like that's probably the way
I would go as well.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Indeed, second Test starts at the base from Reserve and
Wellington on Wednesday. Just a word on the derby. When
are the Wellington Phoenix going to win one of these things?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Clay?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Can you give me any light at the end of
this long dark tunnel as far as Wellington Phoenix fans
are concerned.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Well, I hope for your sake, Pioney, for your morale,
for your kind of love and an enthusiasm, for football's sake,
that it does come soon, because you know, for you
having to be so heavily involved with these games, I'm
sure as a task in itself. And I must add
you've done a tremendous job to hold your objectivity and
(16:37):
been a true professional throwout because most football fans, most
sport fans, if their team was suffering in this way,
would have fallen over a long time ago. But yeah, look,
I mean I think a lot of people were thinking
ahead of Saturday's game, surely the Phoenix are going to
get at least something out of a game. You know,
they can't.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
They can't.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
They can't go five without winning one or getting a
point out of one. But man, it just seems like
the longer it goes on, it's more of a mental
block for the Phoenix. Now, look, they can they win
the third game down in Wellington, Yes they can. They
are a good enough team. We've seen that from the
Phoenix and we've perhaps seen Auckland. You know they might
kick on, but are you know, they're not quite the
(17:17):
sort of force they were last season yet. But man,
isn't it It's just crazy to see. You have to
think it's not entirely tactical, and you know, the players
that are out on the pitch, there's there's got to
be a big mental factor at play here, doesn't it?
Not only for the players, but you know, you look
at jian Carlo Teliano as well. Now, man a penny
for his thoughts and what was going around in his
(17:39):
brain after that game, because there's been so much back
and forth about this fixture and to go on like
this must just get harder and harder every time.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Oh, absolutely, And I wonder about the mental scars as well,
particularly for the Phoenix players. When you think when they
went to one down with you know, fifteen minutes to go,
do they think to themselves, man, we're going to lose
another one. And as far as Allkland left see you're concerned.
You know they must have a huge confidence that if
they get ahead in the game, which they did on
the weekend they were pegged back but then went to
ahead again, that you know that the football gods are
on their side as far as this derby is concerned.
(18:10):
But yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't want at one stage.
Maybe once I give commentary up in the year twenty
forty two, they might.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
They might eventually.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Maybe I'm the problem. Maybe I'm the problem, Clay, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, before you retire, I reckon, I'll get How about that?
Does that make you feel better?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It does?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It makes me feel a lot more comfortable. Great to
have you in the chamber of the day, mate, Thank
you for stopping in pleasure a X.
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