On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 14 July 2026, the Black Caps got back on track in their ODI series against the West Indies winning the second match by 5 wickets this morning to square the series 1-1.
Tom Latham top scored for the Black Caps at 37* and he joined D'Arcy to discuss the match
D'Arcy shares his thoughts on the use of video referees in sport.
And D'Arcy and NZME Head of Sport Winston Aldworth discuss the All Blacks' defence of the Eden Park unbeaten record this weekend and the Football World Cup semi-finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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This is Sportsfix. Howard by News Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Be by, Hello there, welcome on into the Sports Flex podcast.
My name is Darcy Water. Gave it as a Tuesday.
It's the fourteenth of July twenty twenty six. Coming up
on the program, our key interview is Tom Latham. Black
Caps had a win today in the West Indies after
a pretty poor defeat a couple of days beforehand, and
(00:41):
that means that five match series is drawn up one
at peace. They resume the argument on Friday morning. I
got some opinion around the stupidity of the var of
the bunker, of all out our rubbish that ruin our
sports entertainment. Taking a deep breath and joining me in
the chamber is the head of sports for the New
(01:02):
Zealand Herald, a great mate by the name of Winston Alworth. Yeah,
is a Westy as well. That's what we love the pay.
That's our plan, so let's it go. In other news
and in sport today, the black Caps turned the tables
on their West Indian hosts, drawing the five match one
days National Series. Even after this second of fixture touring
(01:23):
tweaker like he hasn't played for New Zealand at home yet.
Jaden Lennox was the prime mover with a Player of
the match five wicket hall.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
The role of a spinner in New Zealand a little
bit different to what it is here, so contributing to
a win for New Zealand's yet it's certainly a special feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Insert royal gong here. Lydia Coe and LPGA Hall of
Famer and reigning Olympic champion is on her way back
to that shaky aisles. She's the key name in the
freshly revived in New Zealand at Women's Open, a Ladies'
European Tour CO sanctioned event said to go just north
of Aalkland in March next year. She hasn't fired a
shot in anger here since twenty seventeen and she reads
(02:04):
a mean press release too. This event has given there
so many one memories over the years. Is going to
be huge for a woman's golf in New Zealand. I
can't wait for theater. And Ian Taylor, another guy with
a prefix of something royal, the mastermind behind the best
sport related on screen graphic packages. Ever, through his Dnedum
based company, Animation Research Limited, has had the VR interference
(02:29):
nail right on.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
The head with a mallet refereence. Jobs are difficult. They
do the best they can and we know there have
been howls down.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Through all of history.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Let's just make sure we remove those hours not get
down to the real nitpicking.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Simple. I thought it should be simple, plainly and knows
exactly what he's talking about. And that's Sport Today.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
News and Avidion.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave. We'll join now by Tom Latham,
out of the successful black Caps One Day International side.
This morning they beat the West and he's in the
second of five. ODIs Tom, I'm doing very well. A
lot to be happy about after the second game today
as opposed to being a ted disappointed after the first game.
(03:17):
Such a turnaround.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, it was a quality performance this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It was I think an important toss to win at
this venue, and I guess it's all well and good
winning the toss, but it's also I just putting a
performance on the board that you know, we're obviously happy
with and to bowl. Weston is out for just under
one forty and then I guess to be in the
position and chase it five down. You know, it was
(03:43):
obviously nice to be on the right side of it
this this game, and obviously take all the learnings that
we had in the first game, and I guess improve
on our performance from last dame.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So yeah, pretty happy camp at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So tell us about what lessons primarily, what did you
pick up out of that first game.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Look, I think I guess from our performance it wasn't
too bad. I think from a batting point of view,
you know, we're probably in a position where we're probably
should have got twenty thirty forty more, you know, we were,
I think we were two hundred at the forty oh mark,
four down, you know, So we later reason a good
platform and I think bowling second here tends to I guess,
(04:23):
get on a little bit more than what it does
in the daytime, and I think for us to be
able to take it to I guess the last couple
of overs, you know, we managed to hang in there.
But yeah, obviously bowling during the day it is a
slightly different kettle of fishing. I guess the guys just
managed to put the ball in the right air for
long periods of time and you know it was spinning.
And guys exposed those conditions really well. And I guess
(04:47):
Jayden Lennox was the one that, you know, managed to
get the rewards today and bold beautifully and deserved. I guess,
you know, the accolades that he or the performance and
the man the match that he got. So it's always
nice when you're able to learn from game to game,
and we certainly did that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But you look at Jadan Lennox and abready provided and
outstanding to pick up that bad because he basically just
plays cricket for New Zealand overseas, such as the nature
of being a tweaker in New Zealand. But some of
them didn't turn at all. It was just very wise.
There were nude spins, weren't they.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think sometimes when you come to these conditions, you
expect the balls that are going to turn are the
ones that tend to get the wickets. But ironically it's
ironically it's the ones that sort of skid on that
tend to be the ones that you play for spin
and they don't spin. So, you know, I think when
conditions favor spinners or that all they favor seamers. I
think sometimes the expectation is there that you need to
(05:40):
bowl them out, and you know conditions are favorable for
spin or seam But at the end of the day,
you're still going to put the ball in the right
areas and you still got to do that for long
pread of time. And you know, they got up to
reasonally a good start, but I think we're able to
pull it back and you just keep taking wickets throughout
that innings was exceptional when all the four spinners really
(06:01):
you know, played a part at some point, which was great.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He just took a look at the car after that
first inning, you'd think that you're playing on an absolute
mine field. That wasn't necessarily the case, though, was it.
I'm talking from a perspective of someone out there listening,
but it hasn't actually seen it. How did they fold
so quickly and of course you guys did to a
degree later on the piece. What was it that was
(06:24):
so tricky about that?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't think the score is probably reflect I guess
what the surface, you know, it certainly wasn't a one
forty all out surface, you know, I think even throughout
our betting things. You know, a couple of times we
lost back to back wickets, and I guess in a
situation like that, you know, wickets the only way that
you're going to sort of, I guess, lose the game.
(06:48):
But you know, we got off to a reason the
good start as well, with a bat, which you know
is really important when you're chasing a low score. And
I guess just allowed some of us just to take
our time to you know, without necessarily time pressure. It's
just about betting, you know, long enough to kill the game.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And you know, even we were a little bit while
be there a couple of time.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I think the way YOUNGI started, the way Michael
brace Will came out and showed some intent to finish
the game off, it was fantastic. So get nice to
level the series and have a couple of days off
and head into the third one or at the final
game here and go on, and I'm sure the surface
will be reasonably similar. You know, we've seeing that over
the first two games that you know, obviously it's a
(07:31):
little bit harder during the day, tends to get on
a little bit more at nighttime. So hopefully we can
keep learning from game to game and take I guess
the learnings that we've had into the third game here.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Striking the balance is an interesting one because on the
face of it, if you look at that run chase,
you go, we should just like stab singles around and
you will eventually get there. But you said you want
to have intent you go in there, but you'll also
go to understand that you can't throw it all away.
So finding that balance when it comes to the way
you play an attack, is this just something you leave
(08:03):
to the individual players. Is it something that you a
lord over and go, hey, guys, we've got this game.
Let's not get out of control. Did you know I'm
pointing with this one, Tom?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, I think guys have their own individual plans around
how they like to approach things. I think you know,
when you're God at the top of the order, you know,
it's about playing good cricket shots. You know, understanding that
there's probably going to be more dot balls of the
nature of the field, and then probably more boundaries. You know,
so that can sort of swing either way whether you
get off to a good start or things are quite tight.
(08:34):
But I guess when situations arise when you know if
you do lose a couple of wickets then kind of
taking the ego out of a little bit and just
understanding that the longer you bet, you know obviously the
closer you're going to get, and you know they will
start trying things.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that was sort of the case when this.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Man Darryl were betting together, and then men Braces were
betting together. You know, you form a bit of a
partnership and then and then things do become a little
bit easier. So yeah, as I said, when you come
to a chase like that and it might be a
little bit tricky, it has taken you go out of
a little bit and just understanding the long gear that
you know, a little sort of low risk cricket is
(09:14):
probably more important in a situation like that, when when
the wicket's not necessarily a free flowing wicket where you
can come out and straight at one hundred from ball one,
so you're not nice to get across the line and
hop sure we can I guess do the job again
in the third game.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Dancy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The Damned Bunker VR whatever else. The whole concept of
somebody on a television trying to tell us how the
game should be adjudicated, be that game football or rugby
union or rugby league or all of these sports. They've
got no idea about the process behind good sport. Whoever
(10:00):
has implemented these they came with a great idea, They
came with the best of all intentions. But with best intentions,
how often do you need an absolute train wreck? And
this is not a one off derailment. This happens all
of the time. You look to the World Cup, because
it's right in front of us. We've seen the decisions
that have been made, how stupid they have been, how
(10:22):
miniscule they've been, the difference wise, and the effect that's
had on the dame. You look at cracket, they spend
endless time going over and over and over the tape.
You look at rugby union, same thing goes on. As
he and Taylor pointed out, this technology should only be
used to eradicate the absolute howler. They need it to
search for, to identify and eliminate the huge howlers, the
(10:47):
big areas, the massive mistakes. You don't have a bunker
or a var or a TMO or an assistant whatever
to adjudicate the game based on day Danydny Margins. That
is not sport. In the wash up. These things are
going to come out quite balance, the good, the bad
(11:07):
and the niff. And if there's going to be an
absolute howler ak be caught by technology that is absolutely brilliant.
But the destructive nature of this tech is destroying all
the games we love, destroying the live experience, destroying the
television experience. I fear the people behind this in all
(11:28):
sports of open Pandora's box and they have absolutely no
idea how to close it again, you absolute geese.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Don't throve and the chamber doors and welcome in now
I get Winston Allworth all right, come in mate, how
are you?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's so good to be here anyway, I.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Love having you in here. Winston Alworth, a course coman
of the al the Tower Power, the boss Man insid
Herald at Sport. Lots to talk about, but we'll try
and get it down to just two subjects today. What
do you reckon? What do you want to kick off?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
First?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, there's I know if you've heard, but the All
Blacks are playing this weekend and I had a rumor
they're playing at Eden Parks and they haven't lost at
Eding Park for quite some time. You might have heard
that as well, with fifty two run undefeated streak at
Eden Park, and there hasn't been a lot of chatter
about that ahead of this game. And it just strikes
(12:22):
me if you cast your mind back last year when
we had the box there, we had the spring box there,
and they had that incredible, heroic, terrific triumph. Ardie was
sensational and it does his score and he's going, this
is our house and there's all that about it. And
it felt like all week leading into it, that tension
of the record was fueling all the thinking about the game,
(12:45):
and it just feels like it's not there this week.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
There's a Football World couple. I mate, no one cares.
I'm sorry, that's what it's all about. Everyone's focused on that.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Like I feel like we started. I mean, as soon
as the alls lay down, the first hucker of the year,
the keeping mindset, you know what we do. You're right,
there's many more sporting options to consume now, but I
think this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It does.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Switch flick the switch down.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And you're the media you're the guy in charge of
all the scripts that get written. Now come you're not
wailing at it because this, to me is perfect fodder
for you blokes. Does it not surely take some responsibility?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
But hey, I blame my audience. We follow the analytics, mate,
But look so Ireland at eden Park this weekend and
I just feel like when we eventually do lose that
home record at eden Park, it won't be against the
big team you think it. Well, it won't be against
the Lions or double World Cup champion spring Box with
(13:43):
Russy Erasmus, the brainy genius running the thing. It'll be
against a really good team who were a little you know,
the all blocks. I don't think they're ever actually complacent.
I don't think that that's a thing at all. But
that absolute fire up your spine that they had last
year with the Box just might not come with the
occasion on this one. And if you know, the Island
(14:04):
squad team's not out yet out on Thursday. I think
nine am ten am that the Irish team. But look,
the coaching team are all out here four years ago
when they won a serious they can't they do know
how to win here. So yeah, I think betting down
the hatches a bit might be a bit of we
might as sports fans who have been sitting around watching
(14:25):
the football, we might suddenly be really tense and nervous
because the All Blacks are scrambling to the result.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I know. But the teams that come out and when
Dave Rennie names the team, because arguably this is the
biggest test of his tenure so far, so the pressure
on the team to not blow it for Dave Rennie.
Now that makeup of that team and the strength of
those tw and we've got some positions that are up
for yeah, up for a shout. So that says so
(14:54):
more to me about that. And then when you look
to the game itself, do you think the Irish are
carrying a whole lot more pressure than the All Blacks
are because shouldn't they have beat this there by?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think I reckon. If you're vis in the park,
there's almost no pressure on you at the stage, right,
where's the pressure? Look at who's fallen before you on
the on that ground. Some great teams, some great players,
some great occasions, But isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It internal from them? Because really they should have rolled
us in the World Cup. They blew that as well.
How much of it still sits within them game? You
guys blew it.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And and that's got to be a big factor in
getting Rico back into the squad, right, So.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You get mouthed off on the sideline, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Totally, like when they're looking at the well, are we
going to get into to cover the midfielder, utility, outside
back and you might all this bloke can catch, you
can run, he's fast. But yeah, but if you've seen
Ricco's tweets, mate, yeah he's lips. He's phenomenal on the socials.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I think it's the build up though closer to the
game things will start to notch up. We'll get there.
I hope that should be a massive occasion.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
The other big one that's been interesting in rugby just
came out a couple of hours ago. Nicolo Canone, the
Italian locke who had the temerity but cam Roy Guard
has got a full match band which is a proper band.
And there was another interesting head but the Under twenty
World Cup where the key he's just gotten knocked out as
(16:19):
well sib Kelly and England flanker put Is and that
into a South African player. So it's like head butts
are making a comeback in the book, Yeah and the like.
If you get a chance to see the clips. Obviously
a lot a lot of people have seen that they're
Italian one, that they are real, big, old dirt, dirt
thuggish acts and it's a reminder of what a red
(16:41):
card was meant to be for probably also when you
do see something like that, and you know that sort
of twenty years back, going back, you know my name
names of some all blacks who we think, you know,
maybe dealt more in the dark arts. That stuff was
a much more prevalent, much more common, and world rugby,
for all its faults, has done a pretty good job
of hosing that out. And now now when it does happen,
(17:03):
it's a really noticeable thing and very unusual. In the meantime,
you've got all this kind of nonsense, real cards for
a player accidentally not quite having his shoulder at a
fifty degree angle to his elbows.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Co own on the wrong side of his cheek. Yeah,
it gets like that as well. So the head butts
are back. One of the great head butts of all
time didn't really get target, but it was a football
head but Yeah, precisely. So let's just move nicely too football,
because we've got the first of two huge exchanges. How
good The four best teams in the world have a
semi finals.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So fIF you've got a lot of stick for basically
setting this up. They had these four teams picked out
earlier as the top four and so that they basically
rigged that. They set up the tournament structure so that
if they each topped their group, this is where they'd be.
And they've had a lot of criticism about it. I
don't mind it myself. I think we've had great games.
(17:57):
We've seen incredible football from all these teams, and now
we are definitely getting the best teams and the best
footballers out there for the last three games that matter,
plus the fourth if you care about them. No, no, yeah,
not really, not really.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So yeah, so well they've been there been an absolute
flood of games, and now as it gets to the
point and it started to be a drip feed and
people are so keen because they've been prompt It's such.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
An awkward time in these tournaments because you go from
like at its peak, it's like, you know, three games
a day, and it's madness and you've got brilliant highlights
and it's just this all consuming thing. And then suddenly
you get past, you get heading to the quarter finals
and you have that day, that first day with is
no game. It's what have we all got left?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To meet your colleagues again, talk to your family, talk
to people about something like that hydra break, that's what Well.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah, the hydration breaks. I think that's fee for conditioning, well,
conditioning the fan base of this global sport to get
used to quarters which are palatable for an American audience. Obviously,
there's more money to be made selling ads into it.
But the other sneaky thing about it. If you look,
the next World Cup is going to be played out
across Spain, Spain, Morocco, Portugal. Right now, there's a massive
(19:12):
heat wave there. It's pretty unpleasant going outdoors. The World
Cup after that is in renowned temperate climate, Saudi Arabia.
So the thing about these quarterly hydration breaks is you're
normalizing the sport to be played in places talking particularly
Saudi Arabia, where it's never really been played and so
(19:32):
but it just breaks up the flow of the game
so much. Between that and they're really cachanded understanding of
how to use var and how to use the video
referee again, got rugby, cricket, a lot of other sports
have you know, learnt through era like there's for a
long time. You know, those other codes have done it
badly now the way football's making a.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Hash of it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The disallowed goal Egypt had on disallowed against Argentina. It
got all the conspiracy theorists out. The referee went back
way up the field for what should have been a foul.
But you know, player gone on and I think football,
the great flow in sport has really lost something as
it leans into VA.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Now. I'm not going to argue at all. It's an
absolute schedule in the game, scourage of the game and
across all games.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Hate who you picking.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So we've got tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Tomorrow we've got Spain with France, and the day after
we've got Argentina.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I have absolutely no idea from what I've read though,
Argentina will win because that's what FIFA want. I would
like England because that's what a lot of my friends want.
I don't I don't care. I just want to see
some great football and on that Winston, we've run out
of time, so out yah hot Winston all Worth. Always friends,
(20:48):
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This is Sportsfix. Howard by News Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Be by, Hello there, welcome on into the Sports Flex podcast.
My name is Darcy Water. Gave it as a Tuesday.
It's the fourteenth of July twenty twenty six. Coming up
on the program, our key interview is Tom Latham. Black
Caps had a win today in the West Indies after
a pretty poor defeat a couple of days beforehand, and
(00:41):
that means that five match series is drawn up one
at peace. They resume the argument on Friday morning. I
got some opinion around the stupidity of the var of
the bunker, of all out our rubbish that ruin our
sports entertainment. Taking a deep breath and joining me in
the chamber is the head of sports for the New
(01:02):
Zealand Herald, a great mate by the name of Winston Alworth. Yeah,
is a Westy as well. That's what we love the pay.
That's our plan, so let's it go. In other news
and in sport today, the black Caps turned the tables
on their West Indian hosts, drawing the five match one
days National Series. Even after this second of fixture touring
(01:23):
tweaker like he hasn't played for New Zealand at home yet.
Jaden Lennox was the prime mover with a Player of
the match five wicket hall.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
The role of a spinner in New Zealand a little
bit different to what it is here, so contributing to
a win for New Zealand's yet it's certainly a special feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Insert royal gong here. Lydia Coe and LPGA Hall of
Famer and reigning Olympic champion is on her way back
to that shaky aisles. She's the key name in the
freshly revived in New Zealand at Women's Open, a Ladies'
European Tour CO sanctioned event said to go just north
of Aalkland in March next year. She hasn't fired a
shot in anger here since twenty seventeen and she reads
(02:04):
a mean press release too. This event has given there
so many one memories over the years. Is going to
be huge for a woman's golf in New Zealand. I
can't wait for theater. And Ian Taylor, another guy with
a prefix of something royal, the mastermind behind the best
sport related on screen graphic packages. Ever, through his Dnedum
based company, Animation Research Limited, has had the VR interference
(02:29):
nail right on.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
The head with a mallet refereence. Jobs are difficult. They
do the best they can and we know there have
been howls down.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Through all of history.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Let's just make sure we remove those hours not get
down to the real nitpicking.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Simple. I thought it should be simple, plainly and knows
exactly what he's talking about. And that's Sport Today.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
News and Avidion.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave. We'll join now by Tom Latham,
out of the successful black Caps One Day International side.
This morning they beat the West and he's in the
second of five. ODIs Tom, I'm doing very well. A
lot to be happy about after the second game today
as opposed to being a ted disappointed after the first game.
(03:17):
Such a turnaround.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, it was a quality performance this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It was I think an important toss to win at
this venue, and I guess it's all well and good
winning the toss, but it's also I just putting a
performance on the board that you know, we're obviously happy
with and to bowl. Weston is out for just under
one forty and then I guess to be in the
position and chase it five down. You know, it was
(03:43):
obviously nice to be on the right side of it
this this game, and obviously take all the learnings that
we had in the first game, and I guess improve
on our performance from last dame.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So yeah, pretty happy camp at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So tell us about what lessons primarily, what did you
pick up out of that first game.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Look, I think I guess from our performance it wasn't
too bad. I think from a batting point of view,
you know, we're probably in a position where we're probably
should have got twenty thirty forty more, you know, we were,
I think we were two hundred at the forty oh mark,
four down, you know, So we later reason a good
platform and I think bowling second here tends to I guess,
(04:23):
get on a little bit more than what it does
in the daytime, and I think for us to be
able to take it to I guess the last couple
of overs, you know, we managed to hang in there.
But yeah, obviously bowling during the day it is a
slightly different kettle of fishing. I guess the guys just
managed to put the ball in the right air for
long periods of time and you know it was spinning.
And guys exposed those conditions really well. And I guess
(04:47):
Jayden Lennox was the one that, you know, managed to
get the rewards today and bold beautifully and deserved. I guess,
you know, the accolades that he or the performance and
the man the match that he got. So it's always
nice when you're able to learn from game to game,
and we certainly did that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But you look at Jadan Lennox and abready provided and
outstanding to pick up that bad because he basically just
plays cricket for New Zealand overseas, such as the nature
of being a tweaker in New Zealand. But some of
them didn't turn at all. It was just very wise.
There were nude spins, weren't they.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think sometimes when you come to these conditions, you
expect the balls that are going to turn are the
ones that tend to get the wickets. But ironically it's
ironically it's the ones that sort of skid on that
tend to be the ones that you play for spin
and they don't spin. So, you know, I think when
conditions favor spinners or that all they favor seamers. I
think sometimes the expectation is there that you need to
(05:40):
bowl them out, and you know conditions are favorable for
spin or seam But at the end of the day,
you're still going to put the ball in the right
areas and you still got to do that for long
pread of time. And you know, they got up to
reasonally a good start, but I think we're able to
pull it back and you just keep taking wickets throughout
that innings was exceptional when all the four spinners really
(06:01):
you know, played a part at some point, which was great.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He just took a look at the car after that
first inning, you'd think that you're playing on an absolute
mine field. That wasn't necessarily the case, though, was it.
I'm talking from a perspective of someone out there listening,
but it hasn't actually seen it. How did they fold
so quickly and of course you guys did to a
degree later on the piece. What was it that was
(06:24):
so tricky about that?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't think the score is probably reflect I guess
what the surface, you know, it certainly wasn't a one
forty all out surface, you know, I think even throughout
our betting things. You know, a couple of times we
lost back to back wickets, and I guess in a
situation like that, you know, wickets the only way that
you're going to sort of, I guess, lose the game.
(06:48):
But you know, we got off to a reason the
good start as well, with a bat, which you know
is really important when you're chasing a low score. And
I guess just allowed some of us just to take
our time to you know, without necessarily time pressure. It's
just about betting, you know, long enough to kill the game.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And you know, even we were a little bit while
be there a couple of time.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I think the way YOUNGI started, the way Michael
brace Will came out and showed some intent to finish
the game off, it was fantastic. So get nice to
level the series and have a couple of days off
and head into the third one or at the final
game here and go on, and I'm sure the surface
will be reasonably similar. You know, we've seeing that over
the first two games that you know, obviously it's a
(07:31):
little bit harder during the day, tends to get on
a little bit more at nighttime. So hopefully we can
keep learning from game to game and take I guess
the learnings that we've had into the third game here.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Striking the balance is an interesting one because on the
face of it, if you look at that run chase,
you go, we should just like stab singles around and
you will eventually get there. But you said you want
to have intent you go in there, but you'll also
go to understand that you can't throw it all away.
So finding that balance when it comes to the way
you play an attack, is this just something you leave
(08:03):
to the individual players. Is it something that you a
lord over and go, hey, guys, we've got this game.
Let's not get out of control. Did you know I'm
pointing with this one, Tom?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, I think guys have their own individual plans around
how they like to approach things. I think you know,
when you're God at the top of the order, you know,
it's about playing good cricket shots. You know, understanding that
there's probably going to be more dot balls of the
nature of the field, and then probably more boundaries. You know,
so that can sort of swing either way whether you
get off to a good start or things are quite tight.
(08:34):
But I guess when situations arise when you know if
you do lose a couple of wickets then kind of
taking the ego out of a little bit and just
understanding that the longer you bet, you know obviously the
closer you're going to get, and you know they will
start trying things.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that was sort of the case when this.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Man Darryl were betting together, and then men Braces were
betting together. You know, you form a bit of a
partnership and then and then things do become a little
bit easier. So yeah, as I said, when you come
to a chase like that and it might be a
little bit tricky, it has taken you go out of
a little bit and just understanding the long gear that
you know, a little sort of low risk cricket is
(09:14):
probably more important in a situation like that, when when
the wicket's not necessarily a free flowing wicket where you
can come out and straight at one hundred from ball one,
so you're not nice to get across the line and
hop sure we can I guess do the job again
in the third game.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Dancy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The Damned Bunker VR whatever else. The whole concept of
somebody on a television trying to tell us how the
game should be adjudicated, be that game football or rugby
union or rugby league or all of these sports. They've
got no idea about the process behind good sport. Whoever
(10:00):
has implemented these they came with a great idea, They
came with the best of all intentions. But with best intentions,
how often do you need an absolute train wreck? And
this is not a one off derailment. This happens all
of the time. You look to the World Cup, because
it's right in front of us. We've seen the decisions
that have been made, how stupid they have been, how
(10:22):
miniscule they've been, the difference wise, and the effect that's
had on the dame. You look at cracket, they spend
endless time going over and over and over the tape.
You look at rugby union, same thing goes on. As
he and Taylor pointed out, this technology should only be
used to eradicate the absolute howler. They need it to
search for, to identify and eliminate the huge howlers, the
(10:47):
big areas, the massive mistakes. You don't have a bunker
or a var or a TMO or an assistant whatever
to adjudicate the game based on day Danydny Margins. That
is not sport. In the wash up. These things are
going to come out quite balance, the good, the bad
(11:07):
and the niff. And if there's going to be an
absolute howler ak be caught by technology that is absolutely brilliant.
But the destructive nature of this tech is destroying all
the games we love, destroying the live experience, destroying the
television experience. I fear the people behind this in all
(11:28):
sports of open Pandora's box and they have absolutely no
idea how to close it again, you absolute geese.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Don't throve and the chamber doors and welcome in now
I get Winston Allworth all right, come in mate, how
are you?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's so good to be here anyway, I.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Love having you in here. Winston Alworth, a course coman
of the al the Tower Power, the boss Man insid
Herald at Sport. Lots to talk about, but we'll try
and get it down to just two subjects today. What
do you reckon? What do you want to kick off?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
First?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, there's I know if you've heard, but the All
Blacks are playing this weekend and I had a rumor
they're playing at Eden Parks and they haven't lost at
Eding Park for quite some time. You might have heard
that as well, with fifty two run undefeated streak at
Eden Park, and there hasn't been a lot of chatter
about that ahead of this game. And it just strikes
(12:22):
me if you cast your mind back last year when
we had the box there, we had the spring box there,
and they had that incredible, heroic, terrific triumph. Ardie was
sensational and it does his score and he's going, this
is our house and there's all that about it. And
it felt like all week leading into it, that tension
of the record was fueling all the thinking about the game,
(12:45):
and it just feels like it's not there this week.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
There's a Football World couple. I mate, no one cares.
I'm sorry, that's what it's all about. Everyone's focused on that.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Like I feel like we started. I mean, as soon
as the alls lay down, the first hucker of the year,
the keeping mindset, you know what we do. You're right,
there's many more sporting options to consume now, but I
think this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It does.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Switch flick the switch down.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And you're the media you're the guy in charge of
all the scripts that get written. Now come you're not
wailing at it because this, to me is perfect fodder
for you blokes. Does it not surely take some responsibility?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
But hey, I blame my audience. We follow the analytics, mate,
But look so Ireland at eden Park this weekend and
I just feel like when we eventually do lose that
home record at eden Park, it won't be against the
big team you think it. Well, it won't be against
the Lions or double World Cup champion spring Box with
(13:43):
Russy Erasmus, the brainy genius running the thing. It'll be
against a really good team who were a little you know,
the all blocks. I don't think they're ever actually complacent.
I don't think that that's a thing at all. But
that absolute fire up your spine that they had last
year with the Box just might not come with the
occasion on this one. And if you know, the Island
(14:04):
squad team's not out yet out on Thursday. I think
nine am ten am that the Irish team. But look,
the coaching team are all out here four years ago
when they won a serious they can't they do know
how to win here. So yeah, I think betting down
the hatches a bit might be a bit of we
might as sports fans who have been sitting around watching
(14:25):
the football, we might suddenly be really tense and nervous
because the All Blacks are scrambling to the result.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I know. But the teams that come out and when
Dave Rennie names the team, because arguably this is the
biggest test of his tenure so far, so the pressure
on the team to not blow it for Dave Rennie.
Now that makeup of that team and the strength of
those tw and we've got some positions that are up
for yeah, up for a shout. So that says so
(14:54):
more to me about that. And then when you look
to the game itself, do you think the Irish are
carrying a whole lot more pressure than the All Blacks
are because shouldn't they have beat this there by?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think I reckon. If you're vis in the park,
there's almost no pressure on you at the stage, right,
where's the pressure? Look at who's fallen before you on
the on that ground. Some great teams, some great players,
some great occasions, But isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It internal from them? Because really they should have rolled
us in the World Cup. They blew that as well.
How much of it still sits within them game? You
guys blew it.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And and that's got to be a big factor in
getting Rico back into the squad, right, So.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You get mouthed off on the sideline, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Totally, like when they're looking at the well, are we
going to get into to cover the midfielder, utility, outside
back and you might all this bloke can catch, you
can run, he's fast. But yeah, but if you've seen
Ricco's tweets, mate, yeah he's lips. He's phenomenal on the socials.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I think it's the build up though closer to the
game things will start to notch up. We'll get there.
I hope that should be a massive occasion.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
The other big one that's been interesting in rugby just
came out a couple of hours ago. Nicolo Canone, the
Italian locke who had the temerity but cam Roy Guard
has got a full match band which is a proper band.
And there was another interesting head but the Under twenty
World Cup where the key he's just gotten knocked out as
(16:19):
well sib Kelly and England flanker put Is and that
into a South African player. So it's like head butts
are making a comeback in the book, Yeah and the like.
If you get a chance to see the clips. Obviously
a lot a lot of people have seen that they're
Italian one, that they are real, big, old dirt, dirt
thuggish acts and it's a reminder of what a red
(16:41):
card was meant to be for probably also when you
do see something like that, and you know that sort
of twenty years back, going back, you know my name
names of some all blacks who we think, you know,
maybe dealt more in the dark arts. That stuff was
a much more prevalent, much more common, and world rugby,
for all its faults, has done a pretty good job
of hosing that out. And now now when it does happen,
(17:03):
it's a really noticeable thing and very unusual. In the meantime,
you've got all this kind of nonsense, real cards for
a player accidentally not quite having his shoulder at a
fifty degree angle to his elbows.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Co own on the wrong side of his cheek. Yeah,
it gets like that as well. So the head butts
are back. One of the great head butts of all
time didn't really get target, but it was a football
head but Yeah, precisely. So let's just move nicely too football,
because we've got the first of two huge exchanges. How
good The four best teams in the world have a
semi finals.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So fIF you've got a lot of stick for basically
setting this up. They had these four teams picked out
earlier as the top four and so that they basically
rigged that. They set up the tournament structure so that
if they each topped their group, this is where they'd be.
And they've had a lot of criticism about it. I
don't mind it myself. I think we've had great games.
(17:57):
We've seen incredible football from all these teams, and now
we are definitely getting the best teams and the best
footballers out there for the last three games that matter,
plus the fourth if you care about them. No, no, yeah,
not really, not really.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So yeah, so well they've been there been an absolute
flood of games, and now as it gets to the
point and it started to be a drip feed and
people are so keen because they've been prompt It's such.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
An awkward time in these tournaments because you go from
like at its peak, it's like, you know, three games
a day, and it's madness and you've got brilliant highlights
and it's just this all consuming thing. And then suddenly
you get past, you get heading to the quarter finals
and you have that day, that first day with is
no game. It's what have we all got left?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To meet your colleagues again, talk to your family, talk
to people about something like that hydra break, that's what Well.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah, the hydration breaks. I think that's fee for conditioning, well,
conditioning the fan base of this global sport to get
used to quarters which are palatable for an American audience. Obviously,
there's more money to be made selling ads into it.
But the other sneaky thing about it. If you look,
the next World Cup is going to be played out
across Spain, Spain, Morocco, Portugal. Right now, there's a massive
(19:12):
heat wave there. It's pretty unpleasant going outdoors. The World
Cup after that is in renowned temperate climate, Saudi Arabia.
So the thing about these quarterly hydration breaks is you're
normalizing the sport to be played in places talking particularly
Saudi Arabia, where it's never really been played and so
(19:32):
but it just breaks up the flow of the game
so much. Between that and they're really cachanded understanding of
how to use var and how to use the video
referee again, got rugby, cricket, a lot of other sports
have you know, learnt through era like there's for a
long time. You know, those other codes have done it
badly now the way football's making a.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Hash of it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The disallowed goal Egypt had on disallowed against Argentina. It
got all the conspiracy theorists out. The referee went back
way up the field for what should have been a foul.
But you know, player gone on and I think football,
the great flow in sport has really lost something as
it leans into VA.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Now. I'm not going to argue at all. It's an
absolute schedule in the game, scourage of the game and
across all games.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Hate who you picking.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So we've got tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Tomorrow we've got Spain with France, and the day after
we've got Argentina.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I have absolutely no idea from what I've read though,
Argentina will win because that's what FIFA want. I would
like England because that's what a lot of my friends want.
I don't I don't care. I just want to see
some great football and on that Winston, we've run out
of time, so out yah hot Winston all Worth. Always friends,
(20:48):
We've got just the ticket.
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