July 20, 2026 • 7 mins
The 2026 FIFA World Cup wrapped up in New York this morning with Spain beating Argentina to become the champions.
Former All White David Chote told Jason Pine he believes Spain's win was well deserved.
"The Spanish, I think, dominated from start to finish."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Because Spain have won the fee for World Cup beating
Argentina one nil after extra time in New Jersey. Former
All White David Choate has popped into the studio to
have a chat about this one. Tooty, good to see
him mate. Spain World Cup winners? Is that the correct outcome?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The right name on the trophy?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
The best team on the day, best team over a month.
Spain right to be the champions.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's funny with finals, isn't it. You build them up
and I was quite looking forward to the contrast and styles,
the collision of the Spanish elegance and the and the
Argentina grit and fight and refusal to lose. I think
unfortunately the Argentinian stuff kind of spilled over into what
was almost anti fopball. I'm not sure what you thought
about it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, they became a bit passive for me. I looked forward,
as you did, to that sort of fight the Argentinians
can put up, which is to get to get on
the front foot, I thought. But to me, they never
really pushed themselves forward in that match. They held their lines.
They played their hearts out in a defensive sense, but
not in a offensive defensive sense, if you know what
(01:21):
I mean. Sometimes you defend from the front, yep, you
push on and you rarely get amongst and they never
did that, and we never saw them trouble the Spanish.
The Spanish I think had dominated from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, they had twenty shots on gold Spain. This is
including extra time. The game went to extra time. It
was nil all at full time, and they scored with
their twentieth shot. At that point, one hundred and six
minutes in, Argentina hadn't had a shot, not just a
shot on target, a shot at all. That's almost unexplainable
for a World Cup final, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah? And I think Argentina, the longer the match went,
almost started saying, Okay, if we hang in and hang
in and hang in, we'll end up in a penalty
shootout and we're a chance there, or we will back
ourselves in a shootout because they never really answer. I'm
even at one down, a man down. They tried to
get themselves back into it, but never really got on
the front foot Spain.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, they say defense wins championships. They've conceded one
goal in eight games. They've not been behind at the tournament.
It's a master class and managing your way through a
tournament similar, I guess in a way to the way
they won it in twenty ten. They want it. Had
a lot of one nil wins that year as well
from memory. But it's not as though they park a
big bus chody. They they don't conceive any goals because
(02:35):
they don't give the other team they bore that much.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, opened with a nil all result in the first
game and you thought, oh, hang on a minute, but
just sort of improved and tweaked and got themselves better.
They are the complete team. No obvious weakness is there.
You know some sides you say, oh, there might be
a bit of a weakness to this, that or the
next thing. They're unflappable. They didn't get involved in any
(02:59):
of the sort of real nonsense that can happen. They were,
you'd say, pretty serene in taking this World Cup.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, and then you contrast that with the Argentinian football culture.
I've called them junkyard dogs a few times, and that
can be a positive thing. You fight in your scrap
and you're gritty and you never say die. They were
too kneeled down against Egypt in a knockout match. They
were one kneel down to England with five minutes to go.
They had the extra time against Cape Verde and against
Switzerland and yet here they were in the final. They're
(03:28):
fighting qualities, but the overplaying of that strength can sometimes
be just this culture of winging and whining and just
being a little bit difficult to like.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah that the longer the game went, the more I
wanted Spain to win based on the emotional aspect of
the game. They live on their emotions, they thrive off
the adrenaline that it creates, but it can become a bit,
as you say, anti football, and in the end they
didn't really offer a lot to this final.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Then now, Messi has been terrific right across the World Cup.
This was probably as quiet as game of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yep, again he's playing the bed Spain very very hard.
He did go and drift into wide spaces, but wasn't
given a space as he was against England. So there's
a lesson. You don't give space away, you try and
fill space. But to me, he was fully invested you
saw that at the end his emotional response at the
(04:26):
end of the tournament, which could be signaling the last.
But who's to know. With Lionel Messi. We didn't see
the best Linel Messi today, but we weren't allowed to
because the Spanish ruled the root.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah they did. They squeezed them, didn't they. A lot
of our listeners are England fans or have an affinity
with England. Funny old tournament for them, And I don't know.
We haven't had the chance to speak, certainly not on
the air since their semi final mystifying tactics by the
England manager at Wonderley Head when he basically just ceded
(04:57):
the whole grounds to Argentina.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yet claims he didn't. Yeah, so did the players retreat?
But what was it cons coming on for everybody's nan?
Anthony Gordon, Anthony Gordon, you know there's no way that's
a like for like.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Change Sarka not getting a single minute.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, there were certainly signals from the bench that suggested
it was part the bus time, Yet he claimed he
wanted to stop the crosses coming in and fill the space.
I'm not sure that And he said that he wouldn't
do anything different, but gee, I think you would.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I think you probably, well, you probably try and
at least try and get the ball. I think twelve
percent possession they had between the time they went one
a head and they fell to one behind, and just
to finish the World Cup forty eight teams. I know
you were probably, like a lot of people, a bit ambivalent,
a bit unsure about the forty eight teams. How do
you feel now that it's all over?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I think it added to the tournament. I liked
the Round of thirty two. It added another layer of Jeffany,
just another knockout around. And think of some of those
smaller nations that we didn't know before the tournament could
play football. Curis How despite the fact I think Rolly
bonovats here from the Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He was from he was from I think he played
internationally for Curis. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So Curis how was one that I knew but had
never seen play.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Cape Verde had never heard of, right, well, not heard of,
but didn't know anything about them.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And they get out of the group. South Africa having
their moment to get out of the group, Bosnia the same.
So we saw smaller nations with their moments, and we
saw some cracking goals. One of the goals the tournament
would have come from Cape Verde, the substitu I've just
lost his name, but rocketed into the top corner. That
was one of the most fist bumping moments for me
at the tournament. It got me out of my seat.
(06:42):
I'm all of a sudden leaping about because curros how
I've got a late equalizer. Man, this is what the
game does to us. So yeah, I'm saying that the
extended tournament worked, and what do we know about football?
The powers that be put on a show that was
well worth watching.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Absolutely, it was one hundred and four games done, all done.
Not sure what we're going to do with our lives now, Chody,
I guess the A League and Premier League seasons will
be here before we know it. Thanks for stopping it, mate,
no problem. That's David Joe, former All Whites and football
commentator spain A World Cup winners for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Because Spain have won the fee for World Cup beating
Argentina one nil after extra time in New Jersey. Former
All White David Choate has popped into the studio to
have a chat about this one. Tooty, good to see
him mate. Spain World Cup winners? Is that the correct outcome?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The right name on the trophy?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
The best team on the day, best team over a month.
Spain right to be the champions.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's funny with finals, isn't it. You build them up
and I was quite looking forward to the contrast and styles,
the collision of the Spanish elegance and the and the
Argentina grit and fight and refusal to lose. I think
unfortunately the Argentinian stuff kind of spilled over into what
was almost anti fopball. I'm not sure what you thought
about it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, they became a bit passive for me. I looked forward,
as you did, to that sort of fight the Argentinians
can put up, which is to get to get on
the front foot, I thought. But to me, they never
really pushed themselves forward in that match. They held their lines.
They played their hearts out in a defensive sense, but
not in a offensive defensive sense, if you know what
(01:21):
I mean. Sometimes you defend from the front, yep, you
push on and you rarely get amongst and they never
did that, and we never saw them trouble the Spanish.
The Spanish I think had dominated from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, they had twenty shots on gold Spain. This is
including extra time. The game went to extra time. It
was nil all at full time, and they scored with
their twentieth shot. At that point, one hundred and six
minutes in, Argentina hadn't had a shot, not just a
shot on target, a shot at all. That's almost unexplainable
for a World Cup final, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah? And I think Argentina, the longer the match went,
almost started saying, Okay, if we hang in and hang
in and hang in, we'll end up in a penalty
shootout and we're a chance there, or we will back
ourselves in a shootout because they never really answer. I'm
even at one down, a man down. They tried to
get themselves back into it, but never really got on
the front foot Spain.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, they say defense wins championships. They've conceded one
goal in eight games. They've not been behind at the tournament.
It's a master class and managing your way through a
tournament similar, I guess in a way to the way
they won it in twenty ten. They want it. Had
a lot of one nil wins that year as well
from memory. But it's not as though they park a
big bus chody. They they don't conceive any goals because
(02:35):
they don't give the other team they bore that much.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, opened with a nil all result in the first
game and you thought, oh, hang on a minute, but
just sort of improved and tweaked and got themselves better.
They are the complete team. No obvious weakness is there.
You know some sides you say, oh, there might be
a bit of a weakness to this, that or the
next thing. They're unflappable. They didn't get involved in any
(02:59):
of the sort of real nonsense that can happen. They were,
you'd say, pretty serene in taking this World Cup.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, and then you contrast that with the Argentinian football culture.
I've called them junkyard dogs a few times, and that
can be a positive thing. You fight in your scrap
and you're gritty and you never say die. They were
too kneeled down against Egypt in a knockout match. They
were one kneel down to England with five minutes to go.
They had the extra time against Cape Verde and against
Switzerland and yet here they were in the final. They're
(03:28):
fighting qualities, but the overplaying of that strength can sometimes
be just this culture of winging and whining and just
being a little bit difficult to like.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah that the longer the game went, the more I
wanted Spain to win based on the emotional aspect of
the game. They live on their emotions, they thrive off
the adrenaline that it creates, but it can become a bit,
as you say, anti football, and in the end they
didn't really offer a lot to this final.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Then now, Messi has been terrific right across the World Cup.
This was probably as quiet as game of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yep, again he's playing the bed Spain very very hard.
He did go and drift into wide spaces, but wasn't
given a space as he was against England. So there's
a lesson. You don't give space away, you try and
fill space. But to me, he was fully invested you
saw that at the end his emotional response at the
(04:26):
end of the tournament, which could be signaling the last.
But who's to know. With Lionel Messi. We didn't see
the best Linel Messi today, but we weren't allowed to
because the Spanish ruled the root.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah they did. They squeezed them, didn't they. A lot
of our listeners are England fans or have an affinity
with England. Funny old tournament for them, And I don't know.
We haven't had the chance to speak, certainly not on
the air since their semi final mystifying tactics by the
England manager at Wonderley Head when he basically just ceded
(04:57):
the whole grounds to Argentina.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yet claims he didn't. Yeah, so did the players retreat?
But what was it cons coming on for everybody's nan?
Anthony Gordon, Anthony Gordon, you know there's no way that's
a like for like.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Change Sarka not getting a single minute.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, there were certainly signals from the bench that suggested
it was part the bus time, Yet he claimed he
wanted to stop the crosses coming in and fill the space.
I'm not sure that And he said that he wouldn't
do anything different, but gee, I think you would.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I think you probably, well, you probably try and
at least try and get the ball. I think twelve
percent possession they had between the time they went one
a head and they fell to one behind, and just
to finish the World Cup forty eight teams. I know
you were probably, like a lot of people, a bit ambivalent,
a bit unsure about the forty eight teams. How do
you feel now that it's all over?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I think it added to the tournament. I liked
the Round of thirty two. It added another layer of Jeffany,
just another knockout around. And think of some of those
smaller nations that we didn't know before the tournament could
play football. Curis How despite the fact I think Rolly
bonovats here from the Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He was from he was from I think he played
internationally for Curis. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So Curis how was one that I knew but had
never seen play.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Cape Verde had never heard of, right, well, not heard of,
but didn't know anything about them.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And they get out of the group. South Africa having
their moment to get out of the group, Bosnia the same.
So we saw smaller nations with their moments, and we
saw some cracking goals. One of the goals the tournament
would have come from Cape Verde, the substitu I've just
lost his name, but rocketed into the top corner. That
was one of the most fist bumping moments for me
at the tournament. It got me out of my seat.
(06:42):
I'm all of a sudden leaping about because curros how
I've got a late equalizer. Man, this is what the
game does to us. So yeah, I'm saying that the
extended tournament worked, and what do we know about football?
The powers that be put on a show that was
well worth watching.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Absolutely, it was one hundred and four games done, all done.
Not sure what we're going to do with our lives now, Chody,
I guess the A League and Premier League seasons will
be here before we know it. Thanks for stopping it, mate,
no problem. That's David Joe, former All Whites and football
commentator spain A World Cup winners for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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