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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
God, hey, how are great to have you on board?
This is Sports Talk. My name is Darcy Waltergrave. Hello,
coming up seven after seven on Wednesday night, September twenty five.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It is.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
This is the time of the year. Will we lean
on two staples?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Me better cricket? Bloody? Where will we be without them?
A couple of guests on tonight's program, will I Rock
joins us, Wow, I we'll start to test cricket. That
bloke said something quite extraordinary. What nineteen wickets at fifteen
(01:11):
and a half and three tests. Whoo suppose it can
only get worse from here, can't it? What a miserable
thing to say, It'll only get better. It's the great
hope aside, he joins us. Later in the piece, Liam
Napier Rugby scribe in his Zellend Herald, he's up first,
busted a story out today game. You know what, Buddy
Barrett's going to get picked at ten tomorrow for the
(01:32):
All Black We'll talk to him about where he heard
that scarrelous rumor from, how he backs it up, and
other possible changes. Within the side. It's the last home
test of the season. Scott Robinson's got a wee bit
to prove, not only Scott Robinson, but the twenty three
men that stand out there and the arrest as well,
the coaches and the other players. There's a lot on
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this game this weekend at the venue where they have
not won since twenty eighteen. Ah, this is sensible, right,
this makes perfect sense to me. Listen to Liam Napier
and see if you agree on that one. I don't
think he had any other choice but to do this.
Boden Barrett in at ten doesn't happen, I'm gonna look
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pretty stupid. It might be the first time they will.
That team will be announced tomorrow morning will be all
over it like a rash. Elliott Smith will be there,
Napier will be there. The list goes on. But before
we do any of that, and don't forget our eight
hundred and eighty ten eighties that I'm going to ring
free phone. If you want to text nineteen nine two ZBZB,
that'll cost your standard text charge, which is hardly going
(02:36):
to break your bank or this day and age, who
knows right enough of that, Let's get into this Sport
Today and in Sport Today fighting talk from black Cap
Rich and Ravendra ahead of the second Test versus a
Shri Lanka at Gaul. He's suggested they might stand up
to the multi pronged Lincoln spin attack and have a go.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Previously we might have been a little bit defensive or
maybe gone themselves into a bit of a whole.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
But I think there's a lot of experience in this group.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
And guys are leaning on you other to develop our
game plans and take the game to.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Them a little bit more than maybe what was the past.
Take the game to the belittles, smash them. Bro Tessa's
going tomorrow afternoon, providing the weather comes to the party.
Melbourne Storm skipper Harry Grant or is that Harry Grant
has put the kiss of death on Monster Kiwi prop
Nelson a supper solemn mono. Listen to this for a setup.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
If we can have him on the field for as
long as possible, you know, we don't want him sitting
in the bin or give them more penalties. But I
think he's been so mature, so experienced the way he's
handled the last couple of months, and I'm sure he'll
be doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, small problems. Nelson's up against another calm and calculated
prop Jared Wiley are Hard Graves in Friday Nights NRL
prelim final bom Taranaki. Coach Neil Barnes is taking a
sensible approach to their rising injury told.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
We're having a fierce share of injuries at the moment,
which is unfortunate, but all teams go through that, So
you just have the an abitude bruts next cab off
the rank and get on with them.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, game underway now, defending champs hosting Harbor tonight. It's
found that statement to be odd. Our fair share. Is
there such a thing as a fair share of injuries?
I don't think there is anyway. Former football firm at
Rosie White is concerned about the team's culture after the
clink of her staush Well she should know. She played
(04:28):
under another one of New Zealand Football's average appointments, Andreas Harath.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
It is super concerning.
Speaker 9 (04:36):
Considering what the team has been through in the past,
you'd expect the processes to be a lot clearer and
it sounds like, you know, with the players Association and
the players in general, they kind of have done everything
in their power to say something.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Thank you, Rosie White. You see producer Andy Duff got
caught by surprise. But I'm my that's right, that guy. Ah,
how we forget. Let's hope it's not third time unlucky.
And that's sport today. It is eleven minutes after to seven.
Napeier joined US now rugby writer for The Herald among
other sports as well, but specializes in rugby union down
(05:13):
in Wellington at the moment sniffing around the place John
to work out what's going on, and he's got with
of a lead around Bowden Barrett possibly probably maybe, I
don't know, being named at number ten tomorrow when Scott
Robinson names his team for the second at Bledisloe Cup match,
the final home game as well, Lim welcome to the program.
(05:39):
It's a pretty interesting leave you've got there.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Who do you know, evening dars Well, Yeah, a few
spies out in Wellington. You never know these things for
sure until they land officially, but that's certainly the whispers,
the word on the street and Wellington that Boden Barrett
will be projected in to start at ten. Of course,
Scott Robinson has entrusted Damian McKenzie in all eight tests
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this year, but with the Northern Tour looming, with the
last test at home this season, it seems that there
is going to be a change and Boden will probably
be thrust into the hot seat ironically for the first
time since November twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's quite a distance, but in Boden we trust. Look
at the decision here from Scott Robinson's point of view,
should it go ahead? This is, hey, we've given you
eight chances, you or my man, I've given you plenty
of opportunity, but you haven't really given me back after
all the trust I've put in you. I'm sorry, I'm
moving on. This is a sensible decision on behalf of
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Scott Robertson. It's not really reactive when you consider that
it's been eight test matches yet.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
No, it's not shocking as it does. And I don't
know if I would frame it up as moving on,
but you need to have options at number ten and
because it's been so long with Boden, he needs some
time in that hot seat to get to grips with
everything that tests rugby demand of a back line director
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and like you say, Damien has been given a lot
of rope and hasn't fully repaid that trust. He's been
good in patches. He's a brilliant attacking prospect. You know,
there's chips and chases, there's magic moments. But from a
game management point of view, that's the big lingering question.
The All Blacks haven't scored points in the last quarter
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of their last five Test matches, and that's not on
Damien alone, but I think they had something like thirty
eight percent territory in the second half against the Wallabies
in Sydney, and that responsibility does fall on your game
drivers to put the team in the right areas of
the park. And you know, there were a few moments
that he botched in Sydney, some big, you know, highlight moments,
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that the audacious flickball that blew a try in another
couple of moments. So I don't know if it's a
case of paying the price. This may have been the
plan all along, but it is time to look at
an alternative option. And I think there's uncertainty about who
the best tests ten for the All Blacks is, And
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of course there's Richard mu Wanga in the background potentially
coming home next year.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, Boden Barts's not going to be arrunto the next
World Cup, or is he?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
He is?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He's signed with new Zella Ragby through to twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
He signed, but will he be still viable at that stage?
I luck he's fit as they come, is he not?
So would he still be in a position to actually
take that role?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Well, I think if you asked him, Darcid say one
hundred percent. He's committed, he's very driven. He's in reasonable
shape by all accounts, still another couple of years to
get through from a fitness perspective, but he's not in
a high attritional position. He's not playing open side flanka
prop in the forward pack. So I think there's every
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reason that he can and potentially will go through that
World Cup. But whether he's a starting prospect at ten
or all fifteen is that there's a lot of water
to go under the bridge. We've seen him earlier this
year play almost go back to the future and play
that off the bench game changer at Eden Park. He
basically single handedly won the test for the All Black
sad at Eden Park. So I think that role is
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very much a live option for Boden as well.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So it all just kind of moves around a place.
You see Boden Barrett coming in at ten, Will Jordan
coming in at fallback, and then Damie McKenzie probably in
his best position coming in off the bench. Is that
the general consensus.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That looks to be the read on it for this week,
But like you say, it's a bit of a moving
chess board. I think Scott Robertson is still very much
working out his best team at this point. Even a
guy like Sam Kaine, who will play his one hundredth
tests this weekend, if you cast the head to the
end of the year, he's moving on. So who is
(10:00):
the long term open side flanker, who is the best
test ten? You've got Cam Rouger half back coming back
from injury, so there's a number of different moving parts
here and he certainly hasn't settled on his best team.
Will Jordan last week only started at fullback because Boden
was sick. He got the call up sorry, switched from
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the wing to fallback a matter of hours before that
test in Sydney, and you know, played his best test
since having shoulder surgery. So it is very much of
a case of you're given opportunities. If you take them,
then you're in the box seat. So this is a
big chance for Boden if he does get the start.
And Wellington is a former home. Of course he's moved
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to the Blues, but he's played a lot of rugby
and Wellington. He will know the conditions well and as
you mentioned at the top, Bill, Blacks need a victory
and need a performance, an eighty minute performance that they
haven't put out this year.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
We're joined by Liam Napier of Wellington ahead of the
naming for the team of the second of Blimsloe Cup
match in Wellington over the weekend. No Jordi Barrett's who
slides in there?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You suspect it will be Anton Lena Brown because he's
been next cab off the rank from a bench perspective.
He started, He's had one start this year at center
and played very well, albeit against Fiji. He's very versatile,
so you'd think that he will slot in there. But
there is David Villy and with Scott Robertson there is
(11:30):
a bit of a crusader's bias there. You look at
this week he's called in Schaffee Hackey, the Canterbury and
Crusaders wing fullback as injury cover, and that surprised a
lot of people. You've got Sean Stevenson and a number
of other fullbacks wings around the country playing the house
down in Schaffee. Hackey would have been well done. The
list of other people, so you never know. It could
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be David Hivily, but odds on that Anton Lena Brown
will sloden and second five probably to partner Rico Owani,
and a big chance for whever that gets that gig
because Jordie's going to be out for four to potentially
six weeks. Random to him in an Upper Heart this week,
and he said he was targeting the Japan game. But
(12:13):
I suspect the All Blacks will be very cautious with
him because he is a bit irreplaceable the.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Mean streets of Upper Heart day, you never know who
you might run into. Hey, one last thing, Lemon, thanks
so much for your time. You want to roll of ice.
Any other call ups or decisions that you think might
turn up that might be a little out of the order.
I suppose I'm looking towards Billy Propt might get a
chance off the bench. Do they change anything in that
loose Ford trio.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'd love to see Billy prop to get a crack
from understanding was he was actually quite sick last week
and actually lost about three kg, so whether he's fully
flipped fits not one hundred percent sure. But another guy
that performed very well against Fiji that we haven't cited.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I suspect you.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Might see Patrick two polo to He is back returned
to fitness but didn't play last weekend, possibly off the bench.
But I don't think the All Blacks have scope to
be too experimental yet. I would like to see them
be brave and bold and put Wallace to tiet number
eight and really settle on their first choice loose for trio.
(13:18):
But given their final quarter meltdowns they only scored three
points after the twenty second sorry, only three points in
the second half last week, they don't feel like they're
in a place where they can be a bit experimental
until they put out that performance that they can be
proud of. So I suspect it will be largely the
(13:40):
team that we've seen in recent weeks, apart from the
changes that we've discussed.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
No need for the DMO. We've got the breakdown on
Sports Talk, Cool.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
News Talk.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And I am napier lurking around the mean streets of
Upper Heart getting the latest oil on what's happening of
All Black team naming it tomorrow. Pretty simple question for
you out there, and we've been ling this around for
the last couple of weeks now about the effectiveness or
lack thereof of Damien McKenzie in the ten jumper. He's
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been given plenty of rope. It would appear that he's
tripped on it and Bowden Barrett is getting that role.
Liam's normally fairly accurate, accurate when it comes to his
calls around team naming. I'm all over this like a rash.
I think it's absolutely fantastic, brilliant. Should have happened sooner.
(14:36):
But that's my question to you. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Should Boden Barrett be given the ten jumper
ahead of Damien mackenzie for the test on Saturday night
at the Cake Tin against the Australians. That simple, O,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Your damn right, he should.
This is a great decision. Thanks for listening, Raiser, No really,
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no problem, pleasure was mine. Twenty one past seven lines
are open. Give us a ring ol eight hundred eighty
ten eight Is this a good move from Razor Robertson.
He's given Damien a chance, he hasn't taken that chance.
They're gonna move on. It's not like complete end of
the line. We're gonna see Damien McKenzie again. But I
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think maybe patients has gone. Yeah. I think we need
to move in a different direction because players get injured.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Good move,
wrong move, bad move? You let me know here on
News Talk, Z to B and in the NIPK. That's
the NPC. Sixteen minutes gone. Taranaki hosting Harbor, Taranaki leading
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seven five, although they've managed to pick up a yellow card.
I'll keep you up today with this match as it progresses.
But you're calls up next. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty This news Talk zed.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
By stories in my side suits.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
You probably wouldn't get it if I've sold you forget.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The riffs call you make the call on eighty eighty
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talks, it
Be's Talks, the B.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Twenty five seven Sports Look on News Talks. It's Wednesday
Night September twenty five, lines of open er eight hundred
and eighty ten at eighty Taranaki have got their bloke
back on the park again, and there, I believe is
a conversion. Yes, it is fourteen to five Taranaki over Harbor,
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fifteen minutes gone in that game. Let's get to the phones, hi, Joey.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, Darsy affecial they do, it'll be it'll be a
good thing. They've given Damien McKenzie enough chancers and Bodenberry
apparently since a while ago he didn't want to play
for Darcy. When he first came into the all backs,
he was World Football of the Year and it's a
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few years ago now. He was far of the year
in the world at first five eight, not at fullback.
We've tried to put them in at full back to
change things up and change things around, and it probably
really hasn't worked. I mean, you know, if it's put
this way, South Africa have him at fullback or first
(17:21):
five as at the moment, they would probably have them
at first five, as you know, And I think I
think it's a good good that could be a good
move if that's what they're going to do.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
If they go.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
But we need Darcy to go back to two or
three years ago when we used to run football from everywhere,
and like they did in the first thirty minutes of
the first part Plass Sat Day, they run the ball
from virtually everywhere. The all backs and Australia were gone.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
They've got to They've got to run the ball from everywhere.
They need a very solid and stout foundation and a
very solid platform to run that from. And if they
have that, they can afford to suddenly go bomb at
the drop of a hat when there is a gap.
If it's messy to start with, that structure doesn't exist.
(18:08):
You can't behave like that. So it's very solid foundations.
And I think that's the problem people have had with
Damian McKenzie. He's too ratic.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
But Darcy, that's where you change it up. So if
you start running the football and it's not working and
they score what they score a try, or you make
a few mistakes, that's when your first five eight comes
in and goes I'm going to do some kicks. I'm
going to change things around. What elms have We run
the football and we score two or three tries like
we did last weekend, in the first quarter of an
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hour by running the football until you've got to sometimes
do stuff like that and make mistakes, make the old mistake,
and yes they might capital or capitalized on it. We
went back into our shell after we went up to
a twenty one point league and let them back in
the game, which.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Has happened before. And Joey Lock, we've got to go.
We've got plenty of calls on. Thanks very much for
your call. Boden Barrett was he sixteen and seventeen World
Player of the Year and he seat's nominated in eighteen.
I mean that was the ruckus between himself and Richie
Morner and that's why he ended up playing around at
the back. So back at ten, what do you think?
Ten eighty?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Dan? Good?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Eight?
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Darcy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Dan, yourself very good?
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Now you talk about Damien McKenzie, obviously he's paying the
price for erratic decisions.
Speaker 12 (19:33):
Now who spoke is that?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Is that really Damien McKenzie's or the selectors picking them
every time? And if so, if Damien McKenzie is hold accountable,
why aren't the coaches hold accountable?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Will you go in in circles like that, Dan, if
you keep doing that. He wants to be first by
they He wants that position. He was given plenty of
opportunity to secure that position, but he didn't prove to
them that he was set enough to do that and
provide that solid fulcrum for the team. So you can't
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blame the selectors for that. If they had a kept
picking him right the way through to the end of
their tour, maybe you go, what are you guys doing?
You could even argue this might be a game or
two too late. But they gave him ample opportunity. I
think that's fair. So I wouldn't park it at the
feet of the selectors, Dan.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Would I would partly park it at Scott Robinson's place.
And I'll tell you what, Scott Robinson.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What's that noise in the background?
Speaker 13 (20:44):
It's my dog?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I thought it was sorry? What is that noise? Like?
This guy got some real serious stomach alls are going on?
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Is he but fletching or is it actually a pooch?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Why, David? How are you? How's your dog?
Speaker 10 (21:18):
You know I've got a dog.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm just hoping, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
My dog?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
No?
Speaker 8 (21:30):
I don't know I'm just I'm kidding, but disillusioned. Heir Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
What's the fullback.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sean Sewan Stevens in the fullbacks last wing harbor player, well,
former harbor blade, the harbor those he.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Full beck come wing the last eighteen months, I'm going
to say he's been he I think and look, I'm
down here in central a tager. It's not I'm not
being biased here, but he was, by father, the best
bloody fullback in the country, and next to Ben Sweth
of course, but anyway, and then I'm just getting a
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little bit peeve with all this Cannibali ship that's gone on.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Well things, David that when he didn't get picked for
the World Cup last year, that had nothing to do
with the manure out of the cantab as you describe it,
because that was now look by all means have it
And I'm with you, look safe the hockey is a
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gifted player. But I think that's a slap in the
face for Sewan Stevenson. I really I'm with you on
that one.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
To threaten the face for every New Zealand Rugby support it.
Love it mate, No, you're going to realize it's about
four and a half million New Zealand all black selectors
in this country and I'm one of them and you're
one of them. But it's it's like, it's like, why
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the hell is Billy Proctors starting and the retest. I mean,
I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, we don't know. I'd suggest that probably if you're
going to move around and Damien McKenzie is going to member,
i'd expect the bench probably his best role. That'd be
unlikely to mess with the midfield too much because there's
already no Jordy Barrett's that makes it difficult, so prob
to play at second five he's mostly a sender. Is
(23:34):
an exibit we've already got. Yeah, we've got a center
curR you on who. People could argue it's a better wing,
but let's not. I don't think they're going to make
too many changes. You need to control on that. So
but I think we'll see Procter off the bench. But
thanks for you call. David most appreciated. I came.
Speaker 12 (23:55):
I thought it was his guts too, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, I had more of a dog sound than
a guts sound. I think there's a not that I
don't spend a lot of time listening to people's flat
scellence or dogs. But anyway, move on us.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
I was just going to say that I think the
future for body, body, especially for longevity, to make it
another three years to the World Cup. If you think
that he's missed their impact, you know just what he
brings that experience later on in the dying, you know,
could be valuable. I think we've seen him enough at
number ten, we sort of know what he's like. I
(24:31):
think d Max still hasn't quite you know, he's there thereabouts.
He's making a couple of mistakes, but actually I can
see him at Will Jordan's starting the end of year
tour begins the Europeans and then just see how they
really hold up on a real.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Reasons are the way Scott robertson grabbing Damie McKenzie by
the shoulders and giving him as shake and saying maybe
that's what he's up to.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's actually high time
we start thinking about going down the track of the
bomb squoiled ourselves, which we've probably call it the Black Attack.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I call it bomb diffusal squad. If they're going to
launch bombs that you diffuse them. No, you don't don't
copy people just because they're doing it doesn't mean to
say it's necessarily a good idea. It works for them,
would it worked for us. I'm interested in what they're
doing with Damian McKinzie because they've given them plenty of chances,
and look, maybe i'm a man alone here, but it
just doesn't fill me with confidence in key moments in
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the game where someone really needs to keep it nice
and straight, nice and simple, get the not the easy things.
So just just do the task at hand, get those
core roles done. It just Damian just doesn't suggest to
me that he's able to make those decisions in the
heat of the moment. It's more likely to do something
mad cap, which might result in a try, but it
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might result in seven at the other end as well,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 12 (26:00):
It's the easy stuff, really easy.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
That's why I think he's better off.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
The bench when you've got a whole lot of big
tired buggers and blowfly around the place.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
We've seen that dynamic before was a problem. We've seen
Body and the team. We've seen d make come off
the bench. He's pretty good at fifteen, but he's got
to be on the fielder.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, but god, Will Jordan plays at fullback right and
and the thing of that Bowden Bart He's not having
a war with Britchie Waller this time around, so he
might be a little more settled in that role and
bring something else. This is not easy, and our teams
don't playing.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
It just seems like we're sort of going over you know,
the same old waters.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Wait what else did you do? Would you let just
we've got a mentals? Okay, but what else would you do?
How would you.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
Severe with? Will Jordan at fifteen d make a team
and body off the bench has that experience to coming
with teammates, starts up during the match. Maybe then body
can come into it. But I wouldn't just play him.
Got a bit of a bed heavy to doing it
to all blocks over the years. You know when Carlos
Smister's kicks and then he was booted, you know he's
kind of lost a lot of confidence. I think you've
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got to give them a chance.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We they're all different coaches though, Look came, thanks for
your call. I appreciate it very much. Always do one
hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open. The harbor
of surge, The head now thirty minutes gone, fifteen fourteen
harbor over Taranakis get back to the phone. So I
had had an eighty ten eighty greetings Paul.
Speaker 12 (27:33):
Hey, Darth here going.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I'm going very very well, mate.
Speaker 13 (27:37):
That dog's are going to go on the bloopers at
Christmas outstanding.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
When you first heard it, did you go, was that
a dog?
Speaker 13 (27:43):
I thought it might have been you. I thought I thought,
I thought he's going on something that the bike said.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
But that was hilarious.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
You've got to get on your Christmas bloopers. Seriously.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
We don't make mistakes in this program, Paul, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 13 (28:00):
I know, mistakeless, Hey, I just just a correct thing
because I've been going over this after week after week.
But I think our eight, our ten, and our thirteen
that we've been playing need a rest. They don't need
to be on the bench. They just need to watch
the game right. And I reckon it's time that we
just put some other players in positions that are suited
(28:24):
Number eight, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And you reckon that he needs to sit down on
a cup of tea.
Speaker 13 (28:32):
I think these players, those three, and there's a few
others too, but those three have been up since went February.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I think the issue here is that you make too
many swapping and out. You're creating an extraordinarily unstable base
to a team that's already mentally frail in the last
twenty minutes, and that it's a huge part.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Need to my next point.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
So I believe that.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
Scott Robinson's exceed exceptionally smart. And I know everyone talks
about the Foster and you know how he didn't do
such a bad job. But let's face it, there was
five key world class players and now longer not in
the team. So for Scott to rebuild this, I have
one question. He's surrounded by a lot of coaches, and
(29:27):
I think there's an awful lot of noise. And my
question to you is, I wonder if you could ever
find out who asked Smith to come in this week part.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Of his job, because part of his job, Wayne Smith,
is that that overseeing role with the Ferns annual Blacks.
And from what I believe, well what I'm told, I mean,
I believe everything I'm told and everything I read. Why
wouldn't you right, that's just part of his circuit and
he was due to come and sit down and spend
(29:58):
some time with them anyway, just so happened after they
didn't lose. I keep telling myself over the weekend, they
didn't lose. Tried the best, but I didn't lose. Then
comes the professor, this is news talks here b is
twenty one minutes to eight the stone, letting him.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
By myself.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Eighteen fourteen harbor of a Tan and at five to
go on the first half of that n PC match,
grant from text. We've got thirty six all blacks every season.
Bring on the besm with the reserves play.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nothing to lose.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Let the next squad go not entirely stupid, just to
weab it and you're all old school. Razor is building
a team to com back the world. John, how are you?
Speaker 10 (30:50):
I get god a darcy year. I think it won't
do Bemack any harm. If he's on the bench, he would.
He'll just have a look at Boden for a while,
that sort of commanding calmness that Boden has, and then
be back will come on later on and he'll just
skin them off any holes tiring, tiring forwards, He'll he'll
(31:15):
just yeah, break through them.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Effectiveness in that situation is huge. Because he is doing
some crazy stuff that no one really sees coming, including
his own teammates, which makes for an incredible an inrreppressible player.
But you wonder, John, if he can sit on the
side and watch. It's almost like the case of the
(31:38):
can a lepard change his spots? I mean, Damien mckinsie
is built, and can he suddenly turn around to become
that conductor of calm? I don't know if he.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
I think it well as he gets older and matures
a bit more. At the moment, he's got one hundred
bloody different different options all in his head like and
that's probably what makes him quite erratic. But a share
his share of pace. He's a smart cookie. He knows
he's he's a raphic. But he'll be looking at Boden
(32:09):
in the back in the background, And yeah, Boden's a
good influence for d Mat. You haven't You haven't heard
the last of d Mat. Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, John, I like what you have to say. My
suggesting maybe it's a leopard spots or a you know,
frog with the scorpion on its back over the river
might be about much because people can develop it. They
do mature of age and they can add extra strings.
Damien McKenzie is not a spent force, and he's not
a bad player. He just doesn't feel worth confidence in
(32:40):
the teamers in Maybe in time he will and he's
got space to there until Richie Moringer comes back.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Yeah, well yeah, that the Mylger factor. Yeah, I forgot
about that.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Wow, you know, wow hasn't happened yet. I mean, there's
any way on a ten billion dollar contract in Japan
for it's forty years okay, three years six it was.
It's like Lester Farton Nikol's on his way home too.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I see.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
The problem is that game felt like I lost because
we're he keeps seeing the same problems time and time
again and nearly gave up a massive lead to the
wounded Ossies. Kept on telling myself last night it was
a victory won. He won, I say we, I mean
the all Blacks have got nothing to do with him.
But thanks very much for your text. A couple more
(33:24):
texts for you, and coming up shortly we'll hear from willow' rourck.
What a game? What a test? What a three test?
This guy has had something else to talk to him shortly.
Couple of quick text Darcy, come on, mate, that back
line got lead days ago. Nothing new. Yeah, I'd say
it's a good no good move, But there also is
(33:47):
some panic. I think panic comes when it moves are
made erratically and changes are made erratically, seeming out of note.
It's me that's panic. This is not panic. I think
this is meant. This is pragmatism more than anything does
raise and put d Mac at fallback. I think that
it go with Will Jordan in there, Mac off the bench.
And I don't know the answer to this question, but
(34:08):
someone out there might send it. In nineteen nine two,
the All Blacks lose at the cake Tin more than
any other stadium in the world. Well, I haven't won
there since twenty eighteen, but they didn't lose all the matches.
They drew two of them. I need a stats geek
out there. Percentile wise, what is the worst place, the
(34:30):
worst stadium for all Black performances? Let me know, seven
forty six, as a sports took on news talks, there'd
be cricket just around the corner.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
When you're not.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Still mere baby talking cricket now and we're joined by
Will O'Rourke, who's had while a whale of a time
over in Gaul. In fact, since picking up a ball
and international cricket, you've already put a foot wrong. Will
(35:03):
It's pretty easy this Test cricket stuff, haven't it?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Hey? Mate? I wouldn't go and go that far. I
think I've had a decent start, I mean, lucky enough
to pick up a few wickets. But you know, it
comes and comes in ways, I think. So you know
tough times will come.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Prepare yourself for the bad times because they will turn up.
It's the thing about cricket, isn't it. It can be
so wonderful and it can be an absolute harshest task
master when it once.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the that's the beauty of it.
That's why we love playing it. I think so tough,
so tough to get those results, but you know when
they come, and hopefully they do come, it's so special.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You played over there and you've picked up a couple
of big bags of wickets on a deck that people
really didn't think you would have much effect on it.
It's a tweakers deck. What did you consider going into
this when you played? How did you go about your
business and go this is what I'm going to do,
and this is how it's going to work. It's quite
(36:00):
a plan.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Yeah, I think it started from when we lost the tasks.
I think both team obviously wanted to have a bat,
but as a pace by that was probably when we
were going to get the best time to bowl. So
the dick was recently hard and it was a good,
good carry going through, so I was encouraging enough for
us to run in and try hit the deck hard.
And there were a few few rewards there for.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Us, and so you were given that. You just do
what you want. You think you can get something out
of it, You stick it in wherever you can. You're
a free reign there will.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, I guess I've been asked to bring some energy,
running hard, try and try hit the deck hard, and
I guess I'm unsettled a few people. So yeah, with
short sharp spells like it is over here, you know,
zoning for four overs and try give it you best the.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Way you bowled to a number of the players when
you were stressing them with those shorter deliveries, So you're
happy to carry on. I won't say it was Neil
Wagner because he just didn't stop doing that. But you're
you're comfortable picking up when where you did, well, sorry
dropping it short where you did.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, I think my natural length, naturally is a little
bit shorter than what most people are. But yeah, as
I said, I think Gary and Jake being over here
have just asked me to be myself, and that's to
try running hard, and that means I'm slightly on the
shorter side. It's probably probably tougher to play than if
I was really trying to get it up there and
I was going floating forward it. So yeah, I think
(37:23):
it's just playing my own game.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Like some of the balls you have put outside and
up outside of the off stick and they stayed out
there and you left players reaching and of course getting
out as a direct result. That shows a little bit
of spine to do that, to leave it out there
like that, I.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Think, yeah, with my natural angle coming back and that
one that sort of holds its liners could potentially be
the danger ball. And I think with you, when I'm
hanging out in quite a lot, maybe three or four
balls in a row, that one that holds its line
as well as it could easily go to the fence
before it's a good work at taking opportunity. So thanks.
Just balancing, balancing how you want to go about.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It struck me as a particularly laid back individual. Will
I roll because this always been the case? Have you
always been this kind of dude that for here to
being interviewed in post matches? And it's like I thought
you were deed. You were so relaxed. Is this the
way you roll?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, I'm quiet a side, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't
say always chill and relax, you know, the nerves, the
nerves are still there and stuff like that. But I
think i'd truck even pretty mellow most of the time.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Where's the room for improvement to yourself? Relatively young in
your test career and we I hope that it goes
on for a long time. You being super hard on yourself.
Where would you look to improvement?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
What?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
What don't you like about the way what you're doing
at the moment.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
I think there's heaps this heaps to work on. I
think a lot of the time last test, like you said,
I was probably a bit shorter than where I'd ultimately
want to be. I think I think I got saved
a bit by my line just hangling it back and
sort of made it difficult. But if I was hard
on myself, I think it's just bringing that consistency. I
think if you look at my pitch map, there's the
(39:04):
eye ball all over the place all the time. So yeah,
if I was being really hard on myself, I think
I think just beginning that consistency piece going would probably
my biggest theoria of improvement.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Well, I rock joining us. What do you need to
lift you think ahead of this second test? And is
it ideal to stay on the in the same ground,
to stay in gal it's only a short turnaround, but
I suppose you're not traveling, so it's not that bad.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, I think I think it could potentially be a
good thing for us to be on the same surface,
obviously seeing seeing what this one did, and now now
we're prepared for that and we know we know what's
going to happen. I think, Yeah, the boys are pretty
disappointed not to get over the line. I think we
had opportunities in the game where we could have put
the foot on the throat and maybe taken it away
from them, and we didn't didn't quite get it right.
(39:50):
So I think I think it's just those key moments again,
just trying to try and take those as they come
and hopefully we'll be on the other side of it
next time you.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Hear it from the biggest names and sports men, have
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Speaker 3 (40:06):
Be is that the most passive fast bowler you've ever
listened to in your life? I mean really you can
see him afterwards in the postmatch interviews. Very calm, very casual.
It's probably quite a good thing, this tradition of the
firebrand fast bowler. You know that the looney tune, they
(40:28):
on the edge that I don't know if you're going
to try and kill me or take my wicket or what.
But maybe that's past. The calm nature of this guy,
the focus this guy brings to what he does. He's
what a touch over twenty three. He's a relative babe
in the woods. He's got to handle on what's going on.
(40:48):
Big thing we should be concerned about with a guy
of a frame like his is don't didn't pay teacher
when he just don't in durum, Please don't, please don't.
But you know, bodies do what bodies do, at least
he's not caring. I mean, like Kyle Jameson's bigger, taller
and heavier, maybe carrying a bit more, but you never know.
(41:10):
It's what a fast bottle does. They get broken. That's
the nature of their job. Ay, looking forward to it tomorrow.
Let's hope that with the fighting words of a written revender,
the attitude of Willo Rourke and this is the new
generation coming through might ever shake. There was a period
(41:31):
in that game where it was lost and willow Rock
talked about that.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And that was.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
We know, and that was instead of only taking a
lead of fifty odd, we could have taken a lead
of one hundred and something into that second innings. Didn't
do it. The tail failed to fire, they didn't score
the runs needed and that pretty much condemnedous to defeat.
But whether there's a wild is away or as they
(41:59):
say my ancle words, where there's a will, it's probably
a weak. Oh that's grim. My name is Darcy Watergrave.
You Duff, thank you very much for producing the program.
Thanks to Will, Thanks to Liam and Napier, Thanks to
the crowd and the production studio for cheering me on.
It's been a real pleasure. Can you call two people
(42:19):
are crowd. Probably not every wonderful evening. Marcus Last is
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There's also our podcast to Sports Fix found all good
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(42:40):
Have a listen otherwise, I'm back and I'll see from
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In three hours, Liam Lawson gets confirmed as a Formula
One driver rumors at eleven o'clock. Rumor's gone on for
how long?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
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Speaker 3 (42:57):
Get on with it.
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
It is.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
This is the time of the year. Will we lean
on two staples?
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
Me better cricket? Bloody? Where will we be without them?
A couple of guests on tonight's program, will I Rock
joins us, Wow, I we'll start to test cricket. That
bloke said something quite extraordinary. What nineteen wickets at fifteen
(01:11):
and a half and three tests. Whoo suppose it can
only get worse from here, can't it? What a miserable
thing to say, It'll only get better. It's the great
hope aside, he joins us. Later in the piece, Liam
Napier Rugby scribe in his Zellend Herald, he's up first,
busted a story out today game. You know what, Buddy
Barrett's going to get picked at ten tomorrow for the
(01:32):
All Black We'll talk to him about where he heard
that scarrelous rumor from, how he backs it up, and
other possible changes. Within the side. It's the last home
test of the season. Scott Robinson's got a wee bit
to prove, not only Scott Robinson, but the twenty three
men that stand out there and the arrest as well,
the coaches and the other players. There's a lot on
(01:55):
this game this weekend at the venue where they have
not won since twenty eighteen. Ah, this is sensible, right,
this makes perfect sense to me. Listen to Liam Napier
and see if you agree on that one. I don't
think he had any other choice but to do this.
Boden Barrett in at ten doesn't happen, I'm gonna look
(02:16):
pretty stupid. It might be the first time they will.
That team will be announced tomorrow morning will be all
over it like a rash. Elliott Smith will be there,
Napier will be there. The list goes on. But before
we do any of that, and don't forget our eight
hundred and eighty ten eighties that I'm going to ring
free phone. If you want to text nineteen nine two ZBZB,
that'll cost your standard text charge, which is hardly going
(02:36):
to break your bank or this day and age, who
knows right enough of that, Let's get into this Sport
Today and in Sport Today fighting talk from black Cap
Rich and Ravendra ahead of the second Test versus a
Shri Lanka at Gaul. He's suggested they might stand up
to the multi pronged Lincoln spin attack and have a go.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Previously we might have been a little bit defensive or
maybe gone themselves into a bit of a whole.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
But I think there's a lot of experience in this group.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
And guys are leaning on you other to develop our
game plans and take the game to.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Them a little bit more than maybe what was the past.
Take the game to the belittles, smash them. Bro Tessa's
going tomorrow afternoon, providing the weather comes to the party.
Melbourne Storm skipper Harry Grant or is that Harry Grant
has put the kiss of death on Monster Kiwi prop
Nelson a supper solemn mono. Listen to this for a setup.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
If we can have him on the field for as
long as possible, you know, we don't want him sitting
in the bin or give them more penalties. But I
think he's been so mature, so experienced the way he's
handled the last couple of months, and I'm sure he'll
be doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, small problems. Nelson's up against another calm and calculated
prop Jared Wiley are Hard Graves in Friday Nights NRL
prelim final bom Taranaki. Coach Neil Barnes is taking a
sensible approach to their rising injury told.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
We're having a fierce share of injuries at the moment,
which is unfortunate, but all teams go through that, So
you just have the an abitude bruts next cab off
the rank and get on with them.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, game underway now, defending champs hosting Harbor tonight. It's
found that statement to be odd. Our fair share. Is
there such a thing as a fair share of injuries?
I don't think there is anyway. Former football firm at
Rosie White is concerned about the team's culture after the
clink of her staush Well she should know. She played
(04:28):
under another one of New Zealand Football's average appointments, Andreas Harath.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
It is super concerning.
Speaker 9 (04:36):
Considering what the team has been through in the past,
you'd expect the processes to be a lot clearer and
it sounds like, you know, with the players Association and
the players in general, they kind of have done everything
in their power to say something.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Thank you, Rosie White. You see producer Andy Duff got
caught by surprise. But I'm my that's right, that guy. Ah,
how we forget. Let's hope it's not third time unlucky.
And that's sport today. It is eleven minutes after to seven.
Napeier joined US now rugby writer for The Herald among
other sports as well, but specializes in rugby union down
(05:13):
in Wellington at the moment sniffing around the place John
to work out what's going on, and he's got with
of a lead around Bowden Barrett possibly probably maybe, I
don't know, being named at number ten tomorrow when Scott
Robinson names his team for the second at Bledisloe Cup match,
the final home game as well, Lim welcome to the program.
(05:39):
It's a pretty interesting leave you've got there.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Who do you know, evening dars Well, Yeah, a few
spies out in Wellington. You never know these things for
sure until they land officially, but that's certainly the whispers,
the word on the street and Wellington that Boden Barrett
will be projected in to start at ten. Of course,
Scott Robinson has entrusted Damian McKenzie in all eight tests
(06:05):
this year, but with the Northern Tour looming, with the
last test at home this season, it seems that there
is going to be a change and Boden will probably
be thrust into the hot seat ironically for the first
time since November twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's quite a distance, but in Boden we trust. Look
at the decision here from Scott Robinson's point of view,
should it go ahead? This is, hey, we've given you
eight chances, you or my man, I've given you plenty
of opportunity, but you haven't really given me back after
all the trust I've put in you. I'm sorry, I'm
moving on. This is a sensible decision on behalf of
(06:42):
Scott Robertson. It's not really reactive when you consider that
it's been eight test matches yet.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
No, it's not shocking as it does. And I don't
know if I would frame it up as moving on,
but you need to have options at number ten and
because it's been so long with Boden, he needs some
time in that hot seat to get to grips with
everything that tests rugby demand of a back line director
(07:08):
and like you say, Damien has been given a lot
of rope and hasn't fully repaid that trust. He's been
good in patches. He's a brilliant attacking prospect. You know,
there's chips and chases, there's magic moments. But from a
game management point of view, that's the big lingering question.
The All Blacks haven't scored points in the last quarter
(07:30):
of their last five Test matches, and that's not on
Damien alone, but I think they had something like thirty
eight percent territory in the second half against the Wallabies
in Sydney, and that responsibility does fall on your game
drivers to put the team in the right areas of
the park. And you know, there were a few moments
that he botched in Sydney, some big, you know, highlight moments,
(07:52):
that the audacious flickball that blew a try in another
couple of moments. So I don't know if it's a
case of paying the price. This may have been the
plan all along, but it is time to look at
an alternative option. And I think there's uncertainty about who
the best tests ten for the All Blacks is, And
(08:13):
of course there's Richard mu Wanga in the background potentially
coming home next year.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, Boden Barts's not going to be arrunto the next
World Cup, or is he?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
He is?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He's signed with new Zella Ragby through to twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
He signed, but will he be still viable at that stage?
I luck he's fit as they come, is he not?
So would he still be in a position to actually
take that role?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Well, I think if you asked him, Darcid say one
hundred percent. He's committed, he's very driven. He's in reasonable
shape by all accounts, still another couple of years to
get through from a fitness perspective, but he's not in
a high attritional position. He's not playing open side flanka
prop in the forward pack. So I think there's every
(08:59):
reason that he can and potentially will go through that
World Cup. But whether he's a starting prospect at ten
or all fifteen is that there's a lot of water
to go under the bridge. We've seen him earlier this
year play almost go back to the future and play
that off the bench game changer at Eden Park. He
basically single handedly won the test for the All Black
sad at Eden Park. So I think that role is
(09:21):
very much a live option for Boden as well.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So it all just kind of moves around a place.
You see Boden Barrett coming in at ten, Will Jordan
coming in at fallback, and then Damie McKenzie probably in
his best position coming in off the bench. Is that
the general consensus.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That looks to be the read on it for this week,
But like you say, it's a bit of a moving
chess board. I think Scott Robertson is still very much
working out his best team at this point. Even a
guy like Sam Kaine, who will play his one hundredth
tests this weekend, if you cast the head to the
end of the year, he's moving on. So who is
(10:00):
the long term open side flanker, who is the best
test ten? You've got Cam Rouger half back coming back
from injury, so there's a number of different moving parts
here and he certainly hasn't settled on his best team.
Will Jordan last week only started at fullback because Boden
was sick. He got the call up sorry, switched from
(10:21):
the wing to fallback a matter of hours before that
test in Sydney, and you know, played his best test
since having shoulder surgery. So it is very much of
a case of you're given opportunities. If you take them,
then you're in the box seat. So this is a
big chance for Boden if he does get the start.
And Wellington is a former home. Of course he's moved
(10:43):
to the Blues, but he's played a lot of rugby
and Wellington. He will know the conditions well and as
you mentioned at the top, Bill, Blacks need a victory
and need a performance, an eighty minute performance that they
haven't put out this year.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
We're joined by Liam Napier of Wellington ahead of the
naming for the team of the second of Blimsloe Cup
match in Wellington over the weekend. No Jordi Barrett's who
slides in there?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You suspect it will be Anton Lena Brown because he's
been next cab off the rank from a bench perspective.
He started, He's had one start this year at center
and played very well, albeit against Fiji. He's very versatile,
so you'd think that he will slot in there. But
there is David Villy and with Scott Robertson there is
(11:30):
a bit of a crusader's bias there. You look at
this week he's called in Schaffee Hackey, the Canterbury and
Crusaders wing fullback as injury cover, and that surprised a
lot of people. You've got Sean Stevenson and a number
of other fullbacks wings around the country playing the house
down in Schaffee. Hackey would have been well done. The
list of other people, so you never know. It could
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be David Hivily, but odds on that Anton Lena Brown
will sloden and second five probably to partner Rico Owani,
and a big chance for whever that gets that gig
because Jordie's going to be out for four to potentially
six weeks. Random to him in an Upper Heart this week,
and he said he was targeting the Japan game. But
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I suspect the All Blacks will be very cautious with
him because he is a bit irreplaceable the.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Mean streets of Upper Heart day, you never know who
you might run into. Hey, one last thing, Lemon, thanks
so much for your time. You want to roll of ice.
Any other call ups or decisions that you think might
turn up that might be a little out of the order.
I suppose I'm looking towards Billy Propt might get a
chance off the bench. Do they change anything in that
loose Ford trio.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'd love to see Billy prop to get a crack
from understanding was he was actually quite sick last week
and actually lost about three kg, so whether he's fully
flipped fits not one hundred percent sure. But another guy
that performed very well against Fiji that we haven't cited.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I suspect you.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Might see Patrick two polo to He is back returned
to fitness but didn't play last weekend, possibly off the bench.
But I don't think the All Blacks have scope to
be too experimental yet. I would like to see them
be brave and bold and put Wallace to tiet number
eight and really settle on their first choice loose for trio.
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But given their final quarter meltdowns they only scored three
points after the twenty second sorry, only three points in
the second half last week, they don't feel like they're
in a place where they can be a bit experimental
until they put out that performance that they can be
proud of. So I suspect it will be largely the
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team that we've seen in recent weeks, apart from the
changes that we've discussed.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
No need for the DMO. We've got the breakdown on
Sports Talk, Cool.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
News Talk.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And I am napier lurking around the mean streets of
Upper Heart getting the latest oil on what's happening of
All Black team naming it tomorrow. Pretty simple question for
you out there, and we've been ling this around for
the last couple of weeks now about the effectiveness or
lack thereof of Damien McKenzie in the ten jumper. He's
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been given plenty of rope. It would appear that he's
tripped on it and Bowden Barrett is getting that role.
Liam's normally fairly accurate, accurate when it comes to his
calls around team naming. I'm all over this like a rash.
I think it's absolutely fantastic, brilliant. Should have happened sooner.
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But that's my question to you. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Should Boden Barrett be given the ten jumper
ahead of Damien mackenzie for the test on Saturday night
at the Cake Tin against the Australians. That simple, O,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Your damn right, he should.
This is a great decision. Thanks for listening, Raiser, No really,
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no problem, pleasure was mine. Twenty one past seven lines
are open. Give us a ring ol eight hundred eighty
ten eight Is this a good move from Razor Robertson.
He's given Damien a chance, he hasn't taken that chance.
They're gonna move on. It's not like complete end of
the line. We're gonna see Damien McKenzie again. But I
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think maybe patients has gone. Yeah. I think we need
to move in a different direction because players get injured.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Good move,
wrong move, bad move? You let me know here on
News Talk, Z to B and in the NIPK. That's
the NPC. Sixteen minutes gone. Taranaki hosting Harbor, Taranaki leading
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seven five, although they've managed to pick up a yellow card.
I'll keep you up today with this match as it progresses.
But you're calls up next. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty This news Talk zed.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
By stories in my side suits.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
You probably wouldn't get it if I've sold you forget.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The riffs call you make the call on eighty eighty
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talks, it
Be's Talks, the B.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Twenty five seven Sports Look on News Talks. It's Wednesday
Night September twenty five, lines of open er eight hundred
and eighty ten at eighty Taranaki have got their bloke
back on the park again, and there, I believe is
a conversion. Yes, it is fourteen to five Taranaki over Harbor,
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fifteen minutes gone in that game. Let's get to the phones, hi, Joey.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, Darsy affecial they do, it'll be it'll be a
good thing. They've given Damien McKenzie enough chancers and Bodenberry
apparently since a while ago he didn't want to play
for Darcy. When he first came into the all backs,
he was World Football of the Year and it's a
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few years ago now. He was far of the year
in the world at first five eight, not at fullback.
We've tried to put them in at full back to
change things up and change things around, and it probably
really hasn't worked. I mean, you know, if it's put
this way, South Africa have him at fullback or first
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five as at the moment, they would probably have them
at first five, as you know, And I think I
think it's a good good that could be a good
move if that's what they're going to do.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
If they go.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
But we need Darcy to go back to two or
three years ago when we used to run football from everywhere,
and like they did in the first thirty minutes of
the first part Plass Sat Day, they run the ball
from virtually everywhere. The all backs and Australia were gone.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
They've got to They've got to run the ball from everywhere.
They need a very solid and stout foundation and a
very solid platform to run that from. And if they
have that, they can afford to suddenly go bomb at
the drop of a hat when there is a gap.
If it's messy to start with, that structure doesn't exist.
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You can't behave like that. So it's very solid foundations.
And I think that's the problem people have had with
Damian McKenzie. He's too ratic.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
But Darcy, that's where you change it up. So if
you start running the football and it's not working and
they score what they score a try, or you make
a few mistakes, that's when your first five eight comes
in and goes I'm going to do some kicks. I'm
going to change things around. What elms have We run
the football and we score two or three tries like
we did last weekend, in the first quarter of an
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hour by running the football until you've got to sometimes
do stuff like that and make mistakes, make the old mistake,
and yes they might capital or capitalized on it. We
went back into our shell after we went up to
a twenty one point league and let them back in
the game, which.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Has happened before. And Joey Lock, we've got to go.
We've got plenty of calls on. Thanks very much for
your call. Boden Barrett was he sixteen and seventeen World
Player of the Year and he seat's nominated in eighteen.
I mean that was the ruckus between himself and Richie
Morner and that's why he ended up playing around at
the back. So back at ten, what do you think?
Ten eighty?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Dan? Good?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Eight?
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Darcy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Dan, yourself very good?
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Now you talk about Damien McKenzie, obviously he's paying the
price for erratic decisions.
Speaker 12 (19:33):
Now who spoke is that?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Is that really Damien McKenzie's or the selectors picking them
every time? And if so, if Damien McKenzie is hold accountable,
why aren't the coaches hold accountable?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Will you go in in circles like that, Dan, if
you keep doing that. He wants to be first by
they He wants that position. He was given plenty of
opportunity to secure that position, but he didn't prove to
them that he was set enough to do that and
provide that solid fulcrum for the team. So you can't
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blame the selectors for that. If they had a kept
picking him right the way through to the end of
their tour, maybe you go, what are you guys doing?
You could even argue this might be a game or
two too late. But they gave him ample opportunity. I
think that's fair. So I wouldn't park it at the
feet of the selectors, Dan.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Would I would partly park it at Scott Robinson's place.
And I'll tell you what, Scott Robinson.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What's that noise in the background?
Speaker 13 (20:44):
It's my dog?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I thought it was sorry? What is that noise? Like?
This guy got some real serious stomach alls are going on?
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Is he but fletching or is it actually a pooch?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Why, David? How are you? How's your dog?
Speaker 10 (21:18):
You know I've got a dog.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm just hoping, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
My dog?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
No?
Speaker 8 (21:30):
I don't know I'm just I'm kidding, but disillusioned. Heir Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
What's the fullback.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sean Sewan Stevens in the fullbacks last wing harbor player, well,
former harbor blade, the harbor those he.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Full beck come wing the last eighteen months, I'm going
to say he's been he I think and look, I'm
down here in central a tager. It's not I'm not
being biased here, but he was, by father, the best
bloody fullback in the country, and next to Ben Sweth
of course, but anyway, and then I'm just getting a
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little bit peeve with all this Cannibali ship that's gone on.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Well things, David that when he didn't get picked for
the World Cup last year, that had nothing to do
with the manure out of the cantab as you describe it,
because that was now look by all means have it
And I'm with you, look safe the hockey is a
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gifted player. But I think that's a slap in the
face for Sewan Stevenson. I really I'm with you on
that one.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
To threaten the face for every New Zealand Rugby support it.
Love it mate, No, you're going to realize it's about
four and a half million New Zealand all black selectors
in this country and I'm one of them and you're
one of them. But it's it's like, it's like, why
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the hell is Billy Proctors starting and the retest. I mean,
I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, we don't know. I'd suggest that probably if you're
going to move around and Damien McKenzie is going to member,
i'd expect the bench probably his best role. That'd be
unlikely to mess with the midfield too much because there's
already no Jordy Barrett's that makes it difficult, so prob
to play at second five he's mostly a sender. Is
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an exibit we've already got. Yeah, we've got a center
curR you on who. People could argue it's a better wing,
but let's not. I don't think they're going to make
too many changes. You need to control on that. So
but I think we'll see Procter off the bench. But
thanks for you call. David most appreciated. I came.
Speaker 12 (23:55):
I thought it was his guts too, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, I had more of a dog sound than
a guts sound. I think there's a not that I
don't spend a lot of time listening to people's flat
scellence or dogs. But anyway, move on us.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
I was just going to say that I think the
future for body, body, especially for longevity, to make it
another three years to the World Cup. If you think
that he's missed their impact, you know just what he
brings that experience later on in the dying, you know,
could be valuable. I think we've seen him enough at
number ten, we sort of know what he's like. I
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think d Max still hasn't quite you know, he's there thereabouts.
He's making a couple of mistakes, but actually I can
see him at Will Jordan's starting the end of year
tour begins the Europeans and then just see how they
really hold up on a real.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Reasons are the way Scott robertson grabbing Damie McKenzie by
the shoulders and giving him as shake and saying maybe
that's what he's up to.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's actually high time
we start thinking about going down the track of the
bomb squoiled ourselves, which we've probably call it the Black Attack.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I call it bomb diffusal squad. If they're going to
launch bombs that you diffuse them. No, you don't don't
copy people just because they're doing it doesn't mean to
say it's necessarily a good idea. It works for them,
would it worked for us. I'm interested in what they're
doing with Damian McKinzie because they've given them plenty of chances,
and look, maybe i'm a man alone here, but it
just doesn't fill me with confidence in key moments in
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the game where someone really needs to keep it nice
and straight, nice and simple, get the not the easy things.
So just just do the task at hand, get those
core roles done. It just Damian just doesn't suggest to
me that he's able to make those decisions in the
heat of the moment. It's more likely to do something
mad cap, which might result in a try, but it
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might result in seven at the other end as well,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 12 (26:00):
It's the easy stuff, really easy.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
That's why I think he's better off.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
The bench when you've got a whole lot of big
tired buggers and blowfly around the place.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
We've seen that dynamic before was a problem. We've seen
Body and the team. We've seen d make come off
the bench. He's pretty good at fifteen, but he's got
to be on the fielder.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, but god, Will Jordan plays at fullback right and
and the thing of that Bowden Bart He's not having
a war with Britchie Waller this time around, so he
might be a little more settled in that role and
bring something else. This is not easy, and our teams
don't playing.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
It just seems like we're sort of going over you know,
the same old waters.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Wait what else did you do? Would you let just
we've got a mentals? Okay, but what else would you do?
How would you.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
Severe with? Will Jordan at fifteen d make a team
and body off the bench has that experience to coming
with teammates, starts up during the match. Maybe then body
can come into it. But I wouldn't just play him.
Got a bit of a bed heavy to doing it
to all blocks over the years. You know when Carlos
Smister's kicks and then he was booted, you know he's
kind of lost a lot of confidence. I think you've
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got to give them a chance.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We they're all different coaches though, Look came, thanks for
your call. I appreciate it very much. Always do one
hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open. The harbor
of surge, The head now thirty minutes gone, fifteen fourteen
harbor over Taranakis get back to the phone. So I
had had an eighty ten eighty greetings Paul.
Speaker 12 (27:33):
Hey, Darth here going.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I'm going very very well, mate.
Speaker 13 (27:37):
That dog's are going to go on the bloopers at
Christmas outstanding.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
When you first heard it, did you go, was that
a dog?
Speaker 13 (27:43):
I thought it might have been you. I thought I thought,
I thought he's going on something that the bike said.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
But that was hilarious.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
You've got to get on your Christmas bloopers. Seriously.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
We don't make mistakes in this program, Paul, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 13 (28:00):
I know, mistakeless, Hey, I just just a correct thing
because I've been going over this after week after week.
But I think our eight, our ten, and our thirteen
that we've been playing need a rest. They don't need
to be on the bench. They just need to watch
the game right. And I reckon it's time that we
just put some other players in positions that are suited
(28:24):
Number eight, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And you reckon that he needs to sit down on
a cup of tea.
Speaker 13 (28:32):
I think these players, those three, and there's a few
others too, but those three have been up since went February.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I think the issue here is that you make too
many swapping and out. You're creating an extraordinarily unstable base
to a team that's already mentally frail in the last
twenty minutes, and that it's a huge part.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Need to my next point.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
So I believe that.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
Scott Robinson's exceed exceptionally smart. And I know everyone talks
about the Foster and you know how he didn't do
such a bad job. But let's face it, there was
five key world class players and now longer not in
the team. So for Scott to rebuild this, I have
one question. He's surrounded by a lot of coaches, and
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I think there's an awful lot of noise. And my
question to you is, I wonder if you could ever
find out who asked Smith to come in this week part.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Of his job, because part of his job, Wayne Smith,
is that that overseeing role with the Ferns annual Blacks.
And from what I believe, well what I'm told, I mean,
I believe everything I'm told and everything I read. Why
wouldn't you right, that's just part of his circuit and
he was due to come and sit down and spend
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some time with them anyway, just so happened after they
didn't lose. I keep telling myself over the weekend, they
didn't lose. Tried the best, but I didn't lose. Then
comes the professor, this is news talks here b is
twenty one minutes to eight the stone, letting him.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
By myself.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Eighteen fourteen harbor of a Tan and at five to
go on the first half of that n PC match,
grant from text. We've got thirty six all blacks every season.
Bring on the besm with the reserves play.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nothing to lose.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Let the next squad go not entirely stupid, just to
weab it and you're all old school. Razor is building
a team to com back the world. John, how are you?
Speaker 10 (30:50):
I get god a darcy year. I think it won't
do Bemack any harm. If he's on the bench, he would.
He'll just have a look at Boden for a while,
that sort of commanding calmness that Boden has, and then
be back will come on later on and he'll just
skin them off any holes tiring, tiring forwards, He'll he'll
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just yeah, break through them.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Effectiveness in that situation is huge. Because he is doing
some crazy stuff that no one really sees coming, including
his own teammates, which makes for an incredible an inrreppressible player.
But you wonder, John, if he can sit on the
side and watch. It's almost like the case of the
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can a lepard change his spots? I mean, Damien mckinsie
is built, and can he suddenly turn around to become
that conductor of calm? I don't know if he.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
I think it well as he gets older and matures
a bit more. At the moment, he's got one hundred
bloody different different options all in his head like and
that's probably what makes him quite erratic. But a share
his share of pace. He's a smart cookie. He knows
he's he's a raphic. But he'll be looking at Boden
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in the back in the background, And yeah, Boden's a
good influence for d Mat. You haven't You haven't heard
the last of d Mat. Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, John, I like what you have to say. My
suggesting maybe it's a leopard spots or a you know,
frog with the scorpion on its back over the river
might be about much because people can develop it. They
do mature of age and they can add extra strings.
Damien McKenzie is not a spent force, and he's not
a bad player. He just doesn't feel worth confidence in
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the teamers in Maybe in time he will and he's
got space to there until Richie Moringer comes back.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Yeah, well yeah, that the Mylger factor. Yeah, I forgot
about that.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Wow, you know, wow hasn't happened yet. I mean, there's
any way on a ten billion dollar contract in Japan
for it's forty years okay, three years six it was.
It's like Lester Farton Nikol's on his way home too.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I see.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
The problem is that game felt like I lost because
we're he keeps seeing the same problems time and time
again and nearly gave up a massive lead to the
wounded Ossies. Kept on telling myself last night it was
a victory won. He won, I say we, I mean
the all Blacks have got nothing to do with him.
But thanks very much for your text. A couple more
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texts for you, and coming up shortly we'll hear from willow' rourck.
What a game? What a test? What a three test?
This guy has had something else to talk to him shortly.
Couple of quick text Darcy, come on, mate, that back
line got lead days ago. Nothing new. Yeah, I'd say
it's a good no good move, But there also is
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some panic. I think panic comes when it moves are
made erratically and changes are made erratically, seeming out of note.
It's me that's panic. This is not panic. I think
this is meant. This is pragmatism more than anything does
raise and put d Mac at fallback. I think that
it go with Will Jordan in there, Mac off the bench.
And I don't know the answer to this question, but
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someone out there might send it. In nineteen nine two,
the All Blacks lose at the cake Tin more than
any other stadium in the world. Well, I haven't won
there since twenty eighteen, but they didn't lose all the matches.
They drew two of them. I need a stats geek
out there. Percentile wise, what is the worst place, the
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worst stadium for all Black performances? Let me know, seven
forty six, as a sports took on news talks, there'd
be cricket just around the corner.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
When you're not.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Still mere baby talking cricket now and we're joined by
Will O'Rourke, who's had while a whale of a time
over in Gaul. In fact, since picking up a ball
and international cricket, you've already put a foot wrong. Will
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It's pretty easy this Test cricket stuff, haven't it?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Hey? Mate? I wouldn't go and go that far. I
think I've had a decent start, I mean, lucky enough
to pick up a few wickets. But you know, it
comes and comes in ways, I think. So you know
tough times will come.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Prepare yourself for the bad times because they will turn up.
It's the thing about cricket, isn't it. It can be
so wonderful and it can be an absolute harshest task
master when it once.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the that's the beauty of it.
That's why we love playing it. I think so tough,
so tough to get those results, but you know when
they come, and hopefully they do come, it's so special.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You played over there and you've picked up a couple
of big bags of wickets on a deck that people
really didn't think you would have much effect on it.
It's a tweakers deck. What did you consider going into
this when you played? How did you go about your
business and go this is what I'm going to do,
and this is how it's going to work. It's quite
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a plan.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Yeah, I think it started from when we lost the tasks.
I think both team obviously wanted to have a bat,
but as a pace by that was probably when we
were going to get the best time to bowl. So
the dick was recently hard and it was a good,
good carry going through, so I was encouraging enough for
us to run in and try hit the deck hard.
And there were a few few rewards there for.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Us, and so you were given that. You just do
what you want. You think you can get something out
of it, You stick it in wherever you can. You're
a free reign there will.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, I guess I've been asked to bring some energy,
running hard, try and try hit the deck hard, and
I guess I'm unsettled a few people. So yeah, with
short sharp spells like it is over here, you know,
zoning for four overs and try give it you best the.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Way you bowled to a number of the players when
you were stressing them with those shorter deliveries, So you're
happy to carry on. I won't say it was Neil
Wagner because he just didn't stop doing that. But you're
you're comfortable picking up when where you did, well, sorry
dropping it short where you did.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, I think my natural length, naturally is a little
bit shorter than what most people are. But yeah, as
I said, I think Gary and Jake being over here
have just asked me to be myself, and that's to
try running hard, and that means I'm slightly on the
shorter side. It's probably probably tougher to play than if
I was really trying to get it up there and
I was going floating forward it. So yeah, I think
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it's just playing my own game.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Like some of the balls you have put outside and
up outside of the off stick and they stayed out
there and you left players reaching and of course getting
out as a direct result. That shows a little bit
of spine to do that, to leave it out there
like that, I.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Think, yeah, with my natural angle coming back and that
one that sort of holds its liners could potentially be
the danger ball. And I think with you, when I'm
hanging out in quite a lot, maybe three or four
balls in a row, that one that holds its line
as well as it could easily go to the fence
before it's a good work at taking opportunity. So thanks.
Just balancing, balancing how you want to go about.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It struck me as a particularly laid back individual. Will
I roll because this always been the case? Have you
always been this kind of dude that for here to
being interviewed in post matches? And it's like I thought
you were deed. You were so relaxed. Is this the
way you roll?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, I'm quiet a side, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't
say always chill and relax, you know, the nerves, the
nerves are still there and stuff like that. But I
think i'd truck even pretty mellow most of the time.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Where's the room for improvement to yourself? Relatively young in
your test career and we I hope that it goes
on for a long time. You being super hard on yourself.
Where would you look to improvement?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
What?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
What don't you like about the way what you're doing
at the moment.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
I think there's heaps this heaps to work on. I
think a lot of the time last test, like you said,
I was probably a bit shorter than where I'd ultimately
want to be. I think I think I got saved
a bit by my line just hangling it back and
sort of made it difficult. But if I was hard
on myself, I think it's just bringing that consistency. I
think if you look at my pitch map, there's the
(39:04):
eye ball all over the place all the time. So yeah,
if I was being really hard on myself, I think
I think just beginning that consistency piece going would probably
my biggest theoria of improvement.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Well, I rock joining us. What do you need to
lift you think ahead of this second test? And is
it ideal to stay on the in the same ground,
to stay in gal it's only a short turnaround, but
I suppose you're not traveling, so it's not that bad.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, I think I think it could potentially be a
good thing for us to be on the same surface,
obviously seeing seeing what this one did, and now now
we're prepared for that and we know we know what's
going to happen. I think, Yeah, the boys are pretty
disappointed not to get over the line. I think we
had opportunities in the game where we could have put
the foot on the throat and maybe taken it away
from them, and we didn't didn't quite get it right.
(39:50):
So I think I think it's just those key moments again,
just trying to try and take those as they come
and hopefully we'll be on the other side of it
next time you.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
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Speaker 3 (40:06):
Be is that the most passive fast bowler you've ever
listened to in your life? I mean really you can
see him afterwards in the postmatch interviews. Very calm, very casual.
It's probably quite a good thing, this tradition of the
firebrand fast bowler. You know that the looney tune, they
(40:28):
on the edge that I don't know if you're going
to try and kill me or take my wicket or what.
But maybe that's past. The calm nature of this guy,
the focus this guy brings to what he does. He's
what a touch over twenty three. He's a relative babe
in the woods. He's got to handle on what's going on.
(40:48):
Big thing we should be concerned about with a guy
of a frame like his is don't didn't pay teacher
when he just don't in durum, Please don't, please don't.
But you know, bodies do what bodies do, at least
he's not caring. I mean, like Kyle Jameson's bigger, taller
and heavier, maybe carrying a bit more, but you never know.
(41:10):
It's what a fast bottle does. They get broken. That's
the nature of their job. Ay, looking forward to it tomorrow.
Let's hope that with the fighting words of a written revender,
the attitude of Willo Rourke and this is the new
generation coming through might ever shake. There was a period
(41:31):
in that game where it was lost and willow Rock
talked about that.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And that was.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
We know, and that was instead of only taking a
lead of fifty odd, we could have taken a lead
of one hundred and something into that second innings. Didn't
do it. The tail failed to fire, they didn't score
the runs needed and that pretty much condemnedous to defeat.
But whether there's a wild is away or as they
(41:59):
say my ancle words, where there's a will, it's probably
a weak. Oh that's grim. My name is Darcy Watergrave.
You Duff, thank you very much for producing the program.
Thanks to Will, Thanks to Liam and Napier, Thanks to
the crowd and the production studio for cheering me on.
It's been a real pleasure. Can you call two people
(42:19):
are crowd. Probably not every wonderful evening. Marcus Last is
up next. I'll be back tomorrow night from seven o'clock.
There's also our podcast to Sports Fix found all good
podcasts are discovered, released that week daily myself from Jason Pine.
(42:40):
Have a listen otherwise, I'm back and I'll see from
seven o'clock tomorrow morning, Sorry tomorrow evening and fingers crossed.
In three hours, Liam Lawson gets confirmed as a Formula
One driver rumors at eleven o'clock. Rumor's gone on for
how long?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Get on with it.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
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