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The proposed launch of the privately backed n ZED twenty
Cricket competition is going to be pushed back a year.
New Zealand Cricket chose that is the preferred option in March,
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but face the tight deadline to launch in January of
twenty twenty seven. Talks between New Zealand Cricket and the
n ZED twenty Establishment Committee have been very productive and
seeing the initiative acquire a license to operate, but clearing
calendar space has been an obstacle due to the black
Caps four Test series against Australia which finishes in early January,
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and then a scheduled Sri Lankan tour of New Zealand
from early February. N ZED twenty Establishment Committee chair Don
McKinnon is with us shortly to provide some clarity. Can
you get your views on this as well? Also tonight.
The Wellington Phoenix women made history yesterday. They are into
the A League Grand Final, becoming the first New Zealand
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team to ever do that, beating Brisbane three to two
on aggregate in their semi final. They'll face Melbourne City
in the Grand Final Saturday from six to fifteen pm
New Zealand Time. I'm going to hear from a few
of their key players and their coach on the show
tonight and on Monday nights we rate the weekend Piney's
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Big changes for the proposed new look domestic T twenty
competition in New Zealand, with the launch of n Z
twenty now pushed back to the summer of twenty twenty
seven twenty eight. The delay comes as organizers work through
investor interest franchise planning and a crowded international cricket calendar
en Z twenty Establishment Committee chair as Don McKinnon, he
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joins US. Now, Don, when did it become clear that
the original January twenty twenty seven launch date was no
longer realistic?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Probably only made the call in the last few days
with New Zealand Cricket Jason, But we've sort of been
becoming more and more inevitable, sort of as you dig
into the project, and in particular, once we realized through endz'
see that the Shrilanking tour was very much locked in
and couldn't be pushed back, we just reached a point
where we were looking at a competition that typically needs
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about thirty two to thirty three days to run, and
next year with the Aussie tests finishing on I think
the last test in Australa finishes on the eighth of January.
Test matches against Sri Lanka starting in the beginning of February,
the window was just too tight and we kept looking
at each other going, you know, we're running around like
mad things trying to squeeze this in and ultimately we'd
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be compromising our very first launch year. Logical decision then became, actually,
why are we trying to do this. It's better to
do it in the following summer when we can make
sure we do this as well as we possibly can
in a proper window. So yeah, probably only recently, very
recently got to this point because we've really tried to
do jan twenty seven, but it just it was just
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too many compromises.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, that word again, compromises. I say you're quoted as
saying that in the media release, we're determined to ensure
n Z twenty launches without compromise. What specifically would have
been compromised if you'd tried to rush this.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, firstly, we would have had to run a huge
number of double headers. So the quality of a competition,
then you know you're compacting it. That impacts on fandom,
It impacts on broadcast, impacts on sponsorship, So all of
your commercials therefore slightly compromised, not slightly significantly compromised. But
even running a really good process around finding our team owners,
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finding our league investor, we've got really good interest in
that regard, but we're going to have to make a
really quick, potentially knee jerk decision. Whereas you know, let's
take the time, run a really good process to find
our owners, really good competitive process to find our locations.
You know, we could have we could have made you know,
sudden quick decisions on all of those things, but it
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just didn't make sense to do that when we actually
have the ability. As we said right from the start.
You know, January twenty eight was acceptable to New Zealand
Cricket when they told us that we had their own
principal support, So it just made sense to take that time.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You mentioned there's strong investment investor interest. How significant are
the names in the and the financial backing that that
the competition is likely to attract.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Oh, look, we remain really confident. I've said right from
the start, you know, this is a startup and you
never know till the money's in the till, and you know,
we have to be conscious of that. But nothing that
we've seen in the last two or three months changes
our view that there's huge interest in this competition from
all over the world and from Kiwis. And you know,
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we keep reiterating the fact we're not sort of reinventing.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
The wheel here.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
This has been done really successfully in other cricketing nations,
So yeah, we have a high confidence level.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
How confident are you that the revised timeline is now
firm that we won't see another delay that January twenty
twenty eight is when NZ twenty will definitely launch.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, extremely confident.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What we would hope to be able to do is
actually start with our women's comp in December twenty seven,
all going well, and then be straight into our men's
compon Jane twenty eight. There's a really good window at
the moment for that, and New z Old Cricket will
have made it clear to us they'll work really hard
to make sure that window stays over open.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So yeah, look, we.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Were doing our best to get as much of this
nailed this year so that most of next year is
actually more focused on promoting the competition and you know,
running a really good player auction.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And the like. So very very, very very confident, is
the answer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
How advanced there discussions around franchise locations.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, as we've said from the start, the goal is
to put these teams in areas where our fans are,
So in December and January, we've done quite a lot
of research on where people are at those times a year,
where the money is being spent and where the greatest interests.
At the end of the day, though, we've got a
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paper prepared ready that will form the basis for location selection.
Then part of our license at Greenwork News on Cricket
that we're working through at the moment is to nail
that document. So we will want a competitive process and
we hope the city and towns of New Zealand really
want to put their hand up.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
And fight hard for a team.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
But yeah, we'll have a really good professional process and
hopefully end up going where most of our people are.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And one of the big planks of this obviously was
having New Zealand's best players play an n Z twenty.
The postponement of this won't change that in any regard.
What's sort of feedback of your head from Pliers the
Pliers Association around the postpone.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, we've we've had a chat with Cricket Players Association.
You know, they've made it clearly huge supporters of this,
as you know, they will do their best to ensure
any players that take on overseas contracts or take on
other end Z twenty sorry, take on any other T
twenty contracts look to do that on the short term look,
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we could lose some players.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
As a result of the decision.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
We might also pick some up that have, you know,
one more year of a commitment next year and therefore
can be available in Jane twenty eight. But I suppose
all I can say is we've had this scussions with
the CPA.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
They remain really supportive.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They will do all they can to make sure we
have a huge number of our best players available.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
This might not be a question for you. It might
be more for New Zealand cricket. But what the domestic
T twenty comp look like now in the summer of
twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, and our discussions for the ends you'd see. You're right,
it's ultimately their course, nothing to do with us. But
I think they intend to run the current competitions again
for one more year, as they had originally intended, and
then that'll dovetail really nicely into us US launching the
following summer.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
All right, And just to finished on, I guess it
does give you some breathing space, doesn't it. You don't
have to rush, you don't have to just a charge
around like headless chickens trying to raise the clock. Does
this give you a bit of as I say, breathing space,
but also some some time to make a good call.
Heller logical decisions without that time pressure.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
One hundred per I mean, when we reached this decision,
say Jason, there was a huge side of relief from me.
We wanted to run it and G twenty seven because
we felt it was right for our fans. We we
thought it was right for the game and players. But
you know, it was, as we said from day one,
it was a big ask and you know, this is
just a far more sensible decision and on pleas that
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collectively we've got to this point.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And actually one more question, how have you found New
zeal In cricket to deal with in the time since
some you know INZED twenty became the preferred option. Have
they been been good to deal with?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
They have been excellent.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I mean most of my dealings have been with their
board members because that's sort of a chair to chair
or chair to board relationship.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
But yeah, they've been on board, they've been excellent to
deal with.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's really good to hear. Don he thanks for joining
us tonight and providing us with some insight. Don McKinnon there,
he is the chair of the Steering Committee or the
establishment committee for en ZED twenty on Sports Talk seven sixteen.
Really keen on your thoughts on what you heard there
and on this on this postponement of in ZED twenty
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and what it might mean, Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty lines rope. Look, it's clearly the right decision.
When ended twenty starts, it needs to start properly. You
get one chance to get the launch of this competition right.
And you heard from Don there that the thirty three
day window that they are targeting just couldn't be achieved
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within existing schedules. We know that the black Caps are
going to Australia for a four test series in December
and into early January the Sri Lankan tour. I think
those dates were a bit more fluid, but by the
sounds of things, those dates are also pretty you know, unmovable.
When Shri Lanka two are here for an all formats,
some journey down to New Zealand in early February and
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I guess into March of next year. So if they
wanted to launch it in January twenty twenty seven, it
would have meant squeezing the comp into a shorter timeframe
and not doing it properly. They would have, as Don said,
have to have double headers. They would have launched it
in a way way that they didn't want to launch it.
You get one chance to make a good first impression
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to do this right, and they wouldn't have done it right.
It wouldn't have been ideal. Decisions would also have been rushed.
I mean it seemed like it was a tight time
frame anyway. Without the international calendar factor into this, they
were really racing the clock to get up and running
to stand this up at the back end of this
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year for the women and into January of next year
for the men. Decisions would absolutely have been rushed. Do
you think matter when you're trying to attract an investor
if they know you're runder time pressure, they were just
try and get the price down. It's like buying a house,
isn't it If you know the seller, if you know
the sellers on a tight time frame, you'll try to
get a better price. So these conversations can now be
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comprehensive and not rushed, and without the looming deadline of
trying to get everything done in far too short a
time frame. Now there has been a school of thought,
obviously that that some players might be lost because of
this delay. But New Zealand players, our top players, our
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black Caps, were adamant. They wanted this, They wanted end
ZED twenty. When the conversations were going on about what
the future direction of our domestic T twenty competition should be,
a number of prominent black Caps came out independently. The
New Zealand Players Association came out collectively and said, we
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want this enn Z twenty is what we want. So
those players, for me, have to stay true to that.
They have to put their money where their mouths are. Yes,
they'll still need work, they'll still need or want franchise
opportunities in that window, and we know that they exist,
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the likes of the Big Bash and the South African
Tea twenty competition. So yes, of course New Zealand players
will continue to seek those opportunities. But don't sign a
two year deal. Sign a one year deal for next
summer and say that's me. I'm you know, I'll take
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the I'll take the one year deal thanks for the
summer of twenty six twenty seven, But for twenty seven
twenty eight, I'm on I means it twenty I mean
z it twenty so. And as Don said, there are
some players who wouldn't have been able to play if
it had been stood up in twenty six twenty seven
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because they were already contracted to the likes of the
Big Bear Shore or say twenty so. In some ways,
I guess it's swings and roundabouts that some players who
weren't going to be available for the launch may well
now be oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty se
numbers you want to kick this around. The final thing
I'd say is about next summer as far as what
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we do domestically, because we have to have some of
domestic competition over the summer for our top men and women,
and en Zed Cricket have said, look, we'll just do
Super Smash again and that's you know, and that's that's
probably the best idea. I just there's no broadcast deal
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is the issue. That's one of the one of the
major problems around this is that there's no broadcast deal
for for Super Smash anymore. That deal is done, it's finished.
It finished with the end of the TV and Z
deal with New Zealand Cricket. There's no domestic television broadcast deal.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
In place.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I would say that, you know, obviously Sky Skysport are
going to be you know, in the market for n
Z twenty when it does get stood up, They're going
to be one of the broadcasters obviously who is keen zilling.
Cricket might just go to them because they have sold
the international rights Cricket to Sky and say hey, why
don't we find a way that you can screen domestically,
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Or they might go back to TV and Dead and say, hey,
to want another summer because it has to be on TV.
They can't just not have the Super Smash on TV.
I eight hundred and eighty ten eightly a bunch of
texts coming through with a lot of questions actually which
I'll try my best to answer or at least kick
around with you if you'd like to have you on
the phone. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number.
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Seven twenty two back in a sec.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Forget the riff's call.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You make the call on eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Sports Talk on your home of sport.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
These talks, e BES talks there.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Be coming up seven twenty five wan to flick across
to the Wellington Phoenix Woman in a little while, but
came to chat some cricket with you around the n
Z twenty concept. Well, not necessarily the concept, we know
what it is, but the postponement of a couple of
texts through here. Paul says, this was months or years
on the planning and now they say they want more time.
It's but like R three sixty, I think it's completely
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different from our three sixty for one main reason, and
that's that R three sixty is not aligned to any
national organization at all. It's its own, it's its own entity.
If it ever does come to pass, i'd be you know,
I wouldn't be putting any money on R three sixty
being stood up at all. We know that n Z
twenty is aligned with New Zealand Cricket. New Zealand Cricket
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went through their due diligence around the domestic T twenty
framework and decided that n Z twenty was the way
they wanted to go. This is a partnership between New
Zealand Cricket and the n Z twenty organization. It is
entirely different from R three sixty. And to say it
was months or years on the planning well months in
the planning shore. This has been talked about for a
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little while, but only rarely gained full momentum inside the
last year, and the fact that it took New Zealand
Cricket as long as it did to decide that NZ
twenty was the preferred way forward, and rightly so, I think,
because you have to do your due diligence on this stuff.
The fact that the decision was only made back in
March gave them a short time frame anyway, and clearly
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in the time since in the discussions between n Z
twenty and New Zealand Cricket, it's become obvious that there
just isn't the time to well. First of all, there
isn't there isn't the window for it in twenty twenty
seven due to existing commitments for the black Caps. So
twenty twenty eight was always acceptable to New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
N Z twenty.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I'm sure, in an ideal world would have loved to
have stood it up in the summer of twenty six
twenty seven. That was optimistic, but they would. They were,
They always said Dominiquin and said, I remember the last
time I spoke to them, or we would love to
stand it up next summer.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We believe we can.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
We just have to see whether we get the license
first of all, which they now have, and whether that
time frame is realistic once we start talking to investors,
talking to broadcasters, talking to players, and clearly now, as
a say, with the international window and schedule the way,
it's not realistic. The competition would have been severely compromised.
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They want to launch without compromise, and so that's how
they've reached the decision. But as I say, very very
different from R three sixty in many many ways, And
like I say, I wouldn't have any confidence R three
sixty will be stood up. It might be, but we
know NZ twenty will be. It's got a license to operate.
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It's just going to be pushed back a summer bidie.
Can you explain, says Reese, why this new comp approach
is going to deliver more crowds, more viewers, and a
profitable business for team franchise owners. I appreciate it, as
I just don't get it, Reese. The answer is, I
guess the same way in which similar franchise leagues around
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the globe do ipl And you know the one hundred
in England, SA twenty, Major League Cricket in the United States,
the Caribbean Premier League, and any other number of other
ones that are stood up. You know, they are all
going to go well. NZ twenty is going to join
that pot of franchise opportunities. Never underestimate the desire of
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very very rich people to get involved in sport, not
because they think it'll be different. You know, it didn't
necessarily profitable for them, but because they have very large egos,
many of them, and like the idea of having a plaything.
If you like a sports team. That doesn't mean it's
not run properly, but the investment is always going to
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be there without necessarily a year on year profitability calculation.
That that is you know, right up there. As far
as more crowds, more viewers, I guess you look at
Super Smash and you say, well, it could hardly be
worse than that, could it. You know, the numbers that
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were turning up to Super Smash were dwindling. You know,
there was no broadcast deal. When Sky Sport picked up
the international rights, they left domestic T twenty on the table,
so it has to be an upgrade. And the reason
I guess that they'll deliver more crowds and more viewers.
Is they are optimistic about the players that they believe
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they can attract the top New Zealand players, all of
them pretty much without exception. You think about top New
Zealand T twenty players, they believe they can attract Finellen,
Tim Seifert, Rtchen Ravendra, you know, the really top echelon
of New Zealand T twenty players, Glenn Phillips, Mitchell Sander,
all of those n Z twenty I'm sure will be
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absolutely driven to acquire and retain the best New Zealand players,
and then on top of that they will look to
add exciting overseas players as well. So I guess that's
a long winded answer, Reese. But the profitability is perhaps
of a concern for some of these these owners and
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the players are what's going to drive the crowds and
the viewers. And I guess that's what it comes down
to at the end of the day, doesn't it. Who
are the players who are we going to be watching
in this competition. We'll look forward to finding out more.
It is seven thirty on Monday night. The Wellington Phoenix
are headed for the A League Women's Grand Final.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Caitlin Williams calls it history made for Wellington Phoenix. They
advanced to an A League's Grand Final for the very
first time.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah. The Phoenix have been in the Brisbane Raw tu
nil after extra time in the second leg of their
semi to win three to two on aggregate. American import
striker Mikayla Woods scored both goals for the Phoenix yesterday,
the first just before halftime in regulation and the second
just before halftime in extra time. So the Phoenix will
play Melbourne City on Saturday EEA from six fifteen New
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Zealand time at Amy Park in Melbourne. I happened to
be at the game yesterday, very lucky to be at
the game yesterday at pottydo A Park and shortly after
the final whistle had the chance to speak with some
of the Phoenix players and their coach one on one.
So I wanted to play a couple of those interviews
for you. First of all, Phoenix player of the season
midfielder Grace Jarlay spoke to her to gauge her reaction
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to what had just transpired.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
It's amazing, no words, no words, what a fight?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Tell us about the approach to today's game. You're a
goal behind. What was the messaging throughout the week as
you're coming to the Second League today.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Honestly, we played lay crap in the last game and
all we needed to do were little tweets and half
of that was mentality. So coming in with confidence and
knowing our roles, it really made the difference. And yeah, yes,
so do I. I really you won behind, but we
knew we could do it at Pottyda.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Absolutely this crowd I want to talk about that in
the moment.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But you draw level in the tie with Mikayla's goal,
and then you're pushing and pushing it and I mean,
did you feel like you might be able to get
it done in ninety minutes and save us all the
teaching of extra time one hundred?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
I wanted to save my legs too, But I think
you know that was just a little bit of extra
front for the fans there. I knew we could have
done it in a ninety but I think all the
hard work from the season showed up fitness in the
last extra time minutes and I'm so proud of the girls.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Unreal, and then Mikayla gets what is what is the
winning goal? And then you count the clock down. What's
a like when their final whistle goes?
Speaker 8 (23:41):
I had no idea what the time was. I was
just engaged on everything and on edge. But yeah, I'm
so proud of Mikayla. She you know, was having a
tough week last week and.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
She killed it today in this crowd six thousand here making.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So much noise. How big of a post were they
for you today?
Speaker 8 (24:00):
They were everything? Yeah, it was we have the best
home advantage ever, so we'll miss him in the final.
But yeah, I'm so so grateful for everyone who showed
up and you made the noise and they were noisy
from a warm up, so I wasn't sure if they're
blessed were last?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So yeah with them and they were certainly noisy or
right get here in the background there of the chat,
nearly six thousand there at Pottydoor Park making a heck
of a racket and really adding their impetus to the game.
I also spoke to Phoenix defender Marisa van der Meyer
and asked what the approach was heading into the second
leg with the aggregate score two to one in favor
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of Brisbane.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Yeah, I mean we just treated it like halftime. Obviously
there's a different kind of halftime. We still had a
lot of minutes ahead of us. But I think you know,
we were on the front foot right from the beginning,
and that's what we wanted to do. We weren't going
to rush that first goal, right, but we're just going
to work out processes, get the ball out the field,
get our passes in which we obviously didn't do as
well last week. But I think we really had played
it well and just worked really hard for each other today.
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So yeah, great to see the outcome of it and grand.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Final, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And so I mean the goal took a little while
to I've done this sort of back into the first half,
but it didn't seem to be any sense of panic.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Were you.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Were you relatively calm and pretty sure that that goal
would come if you kept creating the chances.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Yeah, I would say so, I'd say that with panic, obviously,
I don't think we would have gotten that goal. I
think I think that calmness and just continuing to do
our game and putting a good performance on that first half,
and I think it came at the perfect time, right
before half and just let us well into the changing rooms,
so yeah, we're really please.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
And then the winning goal in extra time, and then
I don't think you're necessarily hanging on, but how determined
were you to keep that clean sheet and to make
sure that you.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Got through to that Grand five? Yeah, I mean definitely right.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
It's those last couple of minutes where you just want
to obviously secure that one. So yeah, obviously no paddic.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
We were just trying to.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
Be nice and defensively sound. But yeah, glad that everyone
just could work hard in those last few minutes and
just put it away.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I remember talking to you in pre season, you know,
and you'd come back from your two horrendous injuries, and
you were like, right, this is this is my season.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm going to really try and make something of this.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Here we are, you played every game and you're into
a Grand final. I mean, could the ten months ago
you have believed this?
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Man Later, reflecting on today, I'm like, Wow, to be
here from where I was maybe started last year, you know,
it's crazy, and I'm just so grateful and so blessed
to have all the support around me and just people
backing me and believing me to come back into this
league and I'm yeah, just super grateful.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
What about this crowd.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Amazing, amazing, so many people coming out and just yeah,
I think everyone just you could feel the energy using
from them. So it was just amazing and just backed
us up to put the performance on the field.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
That is defender Marisa van der Meer Mikayla Woods, the
American Imports, scored both of Wellington's goals yesterday. I asked
her where it sat in amongst everything else she's achieved
in her football career.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
I said before that this is going to be a
core memory for men. I don't think anything's ever going
to type this.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I might have picked.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
This means everything. These group of girls are so amazing
and yeah, I have no words.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Well, what you've done is you've earned your team another week.
You've all earned another week as a Grand final. I
hope you haven't peaked because there's one more to go.
But talk to me about today. The goal took a
little while to come in the first half. Doesn't seem
to be any panic. How were you feeling in the
first half as you look for the goal that would
square the tie up?
Speaker 10 (27:18):
We just trusted the process, so we talk about every day.
So what Bev preaches in our team it's all about
the process, and I think we trusted the process more
than they did. And they're such a good side, and
you know, coming back from a deficit, coming back, we
knew what we had to do. We stuck to the
game plan, we stuck to our guns, and yeah, it's
just amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So the first goal goes in the ties level, we
get to extra time.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
What are the pictures you see? Is you chase through.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
The ball that lead to the eventual winning goal. You
what are you seeing in that moment?
Speaker 10 (27:49):
Black?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Absolutely not, absolutely not. I think I can't lie to you.
Speaker 11 (27:54):
I was.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
I was proving myself. I think you know it's hard.
I had multiple chances to end it in ninety and
my team do you just continue to put belief in
me and just keep me up. And I literally wouldn't
beat the player I am and do what I did
without them.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
So a week, I mean, you won't even have a
touch to think about the week ahead. But there's another
week coming. But what about this crowd just to finish?
How good were they?
Speaker 10 (28:13):
I knew I knew coming into this and this is
a hard place to play. And if you're coming home
and we have the best fans and to just see
the support in roomers football, it's just so amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And finally from the playing group is a fellow attacker,
Brooke None. Now, she came to Wellington from the Central
Coast Mariners. At the start of the season last year
she was an a league champion with the Central Coast Mariners.
So she's the only player in this playing group who
knows what it feels like to play in a Grand
final and to win a Grand final. So I asked
brook None how this compared helping Wellington make their first
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ever Grand Final.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
Yeah, that's amazing. You know, we had all the fans
behind us and they've never made it this fye even
making top six with such an achievement for us, So like,
I can't describe how happy I am. Literally see it
here for my eye. Yes, I'm just I'm just overwhelmed
with happiness.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
At what stage during the season did you think of yourself, right,
we had a great team here, we could go far
in this in the season. How long after you arrived
did you realize you're quite a good team.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
I think I believed in us from the beginning. You know,
you come into a team you want to win, and
that's the whole reason that we're in a comparative sport.
And once I met the girls who built rapport, we
built one of relationships. I knew that this team was
very special and we could go really fast.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Do you feel similarities in this team to the Mariners
team that you were in last year?
Speaker 11 (29:30):
Yeah? I do to next in in. I feel like
we're very together, we're making history, and yeah, it's just
a beautiful environment to be around.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I think there was a bit of pressure.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, I don't know, you might not have filtered, but
on you know, you're a league champion. You come into
a team that's never even made the playoffs, let alone
a Grand final. Did you feel any personal pressure to
be one of the big players in this team this season?
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Yeah? I think I found that. I think I had
a bit of pressure last game China lead the lead
the girls, why focusing on my own game? But I
think this week we all bounce back. We knew what
we had to do with all together. So yeah, we've
done this as a team and you could have been
more prouder.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
What's the week of a grand final like? Again, none
of us really know what's it like? The week leading
up to the Big Dance.
Speaker 11 (30:12):
It's amazing. We're going to recover, We're going to recover
properly and then we're just going to start building for
the last game of the season. You know, we're just
going to enjoy it like at the end of the
season and we look forward to that. So it's going
to be a good week.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That is Brooke Nunn. And finally, I spoke with Wellington
Phoenix women's head coach Bev Priestman and reminded her that
when she arrived in Wellington a year or so ago,
she said in her unveiling press conference and said, look,
I have big dreams for this team. I have big
ambitions for this team. We want to go as far
as we possibly can. So having made the Grand Final,
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what was yesterday like for Bev Priestman?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Today was a man So I'm super super proud of
the girls. I think it was a big shift in
a big moment and in big moments, big players deliver
and I think everybody on their day did their job
and I'm just, you know, super super proud. I think
to create history, to repeat the club that got me
back in the in the game is big for me.
(31:10):
But We're not done yet. We're not here just to
get to a final. I think in these moments, now
this momentum, let's go take it to Melbourne City like
we did in the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Last A way, Like, what was the approach this week?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Because I know you weren't happy with Brisbane A why
last week?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
How did you approach the week?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I think the week was about getting back to us.
I think they took our game away from us, and
you know, we got here because of some of the
things that we do. And I think it was go
and enjoy yourselves. You've earned the moment. This city's proud
of you no matter what. But you know, a big,
big part for me was coming into today was the belief.
Like I got up today, I knew I had that
same feeling of that said to the players the US
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semi final way, Canada hadn't beat the US for nineteen years,
nineteen years semi final to day, I've got this feeling
in the air. And you know the players, they were
men's great group. I'm super proud and for someone like
Mac Barry, this has been five years in the making.
The coaches before me, the players before me. Now we
got to go all the way for them.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
There's some big players on this team, and I can't
think of anybody today who didn't have.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
A big game.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It felt to me as though everybody lifted for the occasion.
I watch him a Pine and Berg still running deep,
deep deep, mac Berry at the back alley walk the
Marissa enderby everybody. It just felt like everybody was up
for this today. Did you get that feeling when you
arrived at the ground.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Yes, And actually yesterday was one of the best minus
one training sessions. There was good, there was a bit
of a goulfest, the vibes were great. I think sometimes
you just know, and I think looking at them today, yeah,
they were nervous, but they weren't. They weren't in their
own heads. It was a collective effort and you know,
don't leave your mate out there on your own today,
like you know, buck each other up because that's why
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we're in this position. And they did it, which is great.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I think every team wants to have a good team culture.
Every team says we've got a good team culture. I
don't know it feels to me from the outside looking.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
In that you do. How has that been created and cultivated?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I think a bit of a you know, like setting
the bar high. I think, you know, you put things
in the universe, often they happen, so I think challenge
is high. But I also think like a bigger purpose, right,
we wanted to create. Someone just said to me on
my seven month old this was their first public sporting event.
These are the moments that people fall in love with
the game, and that is the purpose to put New Zealand,
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you know, like there's a lot of reasons why to
do what we've done. And you know women's football in
this country have a film. Today is one of them moments.
You know, you think about the home World Cup, that
game they won, This is one of them moments. And
these are the sporting moments where people fall in love
with the game, and that is the purpose. No matter
whether you're from England, America, they've all bought in and
(33:46):
they've done it, which is great. Get us the final,
but we're not done yet.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And just on you or remember when you were unveiled
as Wellington Phoenix coach. You set up at their table
and told us about your vision for the club and
what a challenging time it had been for you. When
do you think today we'll sink in for you. Will
it be later on tonight? Will you get a moment
to reflect and think about what the last ten months
have been.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, And you know this week I've spent a little
bit of time reflecting on, you know, that journey and
where I was a year ago to a moment like
this today. I think for a lot of people out there,
you know you're stronger than you think. And I was
determined today I am not going home without a win.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
I'm going to.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Repay those who not only have backed me and brought
me back into the game, but have shown this group
of players this is a real football pitch to play
football on. They put everything they can in this women's
program and they deserve a moment like this tonight for
the club. And I think that that was a real
driver for me. Forget me. It was more about there's
a lot of people who work their asses off in
(34:45):
this club and you know, sometimes it's not the.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Most pretty job.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
People do ten jobs, but it's moments like tonight that make.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It worth it that.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
As the head coach of the Wellington Phoenix Women's side,
Bay of Priestsman of course, so I League Women's Grand
Final Saturday night six fifteen at Amy Park in Melbourne.
That's six fifteen New Zealand time for fifteen local kickoff
Masters Ponie. I didn't play with my wife on Saturday
at six, but I've canceled them to watch the game.
Let's just say the wife isn't happy. Martha didn't even
(35:13):
know you're a football fan, but good to have you
on the bandwagon. It is of infinite size, no problem.
Friday night, of course, Auckland f C. You have the
second league of their semi final in the men's competition,
won all after the first leg at go Media Stadium
on Saturday. They now go to Adelaide looking to win
what is effectively now a one off game. We can
(35:33):
forget the first leg because I think aggregate, you know,
it can be a bit confusing for some people who
are aren't familiar with the concept. I think we just
forget about the first leg now and just say Auckland FC,
you have to go to Adelaide on Friday night and
win the game either in ninety minutes an extra time
or via a penalty shootout. If they do, they're into
the grand Final. So we wish them all the best
(35:55):
as well. Seven forty five. But where are those two
teams Auckland f C And the Wellington Phoenix Women going
to end up? And when we rate the weekend on
ninety's power ranks, will they be there at all? In
in a moment we rate the weekend after this on.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Sports Talk.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Our rankings say okay, as we always do on Monday nights.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
MAT's right, the weekend Party's power rankings the best, the worst,
the end between. Bits from the last seventy two hours
or so v a r controversy between west Ham United
and Arsenal and the Premier League.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Ladies call it goalkeeper forward for it through the hands
of his office in un clean.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Off for nine.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
But we've horrible, We did it hit an arm.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's called him's gone.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
In what a moment Arsenal protest boy.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
It's gonna take some checking.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
This is a massive call.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
After review, west number nineteen committed foul on the goalkeeper
fire the start kid.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's disallowed.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah that late west Ham equal as a chalked off.
A one nil win for Arsenal leaves them in the
box seat to win the Premier League. The Hammer's still
battling to avoid the drops. The white ferns and narrow
one wicket defeat in the opening match of their One
Day International series against England.
Speaker 13 (37:13):
I'm the wicket through the gap in the covers and
take the first of the three match series and the
One Day Internationals. And Charlie Dean has had a terrific
day out her first time captain ing a senior England
women's team game.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Tours on Wednesday nights in Northampton. Back to the Premier League.
Nottingham Forest and Chris Wood. They live to fight another
day in the tea.
Speaker 12 (37:37):
Back Anderson a special moment. Anderson, I'm Nottingham Forests. He
was determined not to lose this game. The man sold
by Newcastle to balance the books, A reluctant sale, they'd
been the first to tell you. But it's worked out
(38:01):
for the matter of the.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Moment here that laid equalizer, earning Forrest a one one
draw with Newcastle and securing their safety for next season.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Seven Auckland FC a.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
One to one draw with Adelaide in the rain on
Saturday night, all square after the first league fall to
play for six nights from.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Now in the City of Churches. Tanks emptied at co Media.
But we're only halfway there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
The second leg, the return leg Friday night at Cooper
Stadium in Adelaide.
Speaker 14 (38:37):
Six.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
The Hurricanes are six back to the top of the
Super Rugby tables.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
With Lieutensi Walker Lear Whinny for Morby the Hettrick hero
appreciates the attack. How about Dot Mobby.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
For like dock Molly brilliant from Elliott Smith, Josh Forby
for trist for Josh Morby in their fifty to seventeen
win over Moana.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Five.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
The Crusaders at five, claiming a much needed win over
the Blues and marking a special milestone for one of
their most popular players.
Speaker 15 (39:06):
Kid our little ship, He's played, Torge Power, He's done it,
He's done it it. Game one hundred, This first try
for the Crusaders a training ground move for power, unbelievable
five three kick to a club, Torge.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Power all power a another commentary master class, Nickbully. That
time back up to fourth, the Crusaders on the table
with two games to go the Highlanders and even more
much needed win over the Warritars.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
The past run of monor Vicki.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Nickins, I'm a brown picking up as Tho.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
He's gonna get a ticket.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Loge's another one.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Jan Aloe scores yeah, three points outside the top six.
The Highlanders with two games to go but still alive
and the hunt of the playoffs free Finn Ellen our
first ever IPL century Finn Allen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Not er ook squar Alan goes.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Hide up into the stands for six.
Speaker 12 (40:03):
That is a sensational there to finish this cricket match.
One hundred nine out of forty seven both.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
He was eighteen of twenty year that century, helping the
Colcutta Night Riders to an epe. WI could win over
the Delhi Capitals to boost their IPL playoff hopes. Shane
van Gisbergen cementing his NASCAR street racing dominance with victory
at Watkin Glen in Upstate New York.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
Down by almost thirty seconds, gonna win by easy, unbelievable
check her flag.
Speaker 13 (40:34):
Shane Van Gisbergen is the master of NASCAR rodaryc.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
He certainly is the giz now has seven NASCAR Korea wins,
all of them on street Circuit one. Who else but
the Wellington Phoenix Women history makers in season twenty twenty
five twenty six Risbane defendant.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Right at the very end, Caitlyn Williams calls it history
made for Wellington Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
They advanced to an.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
A League's Grand final for the very first time. The
Yellow Fever celebrate party into a markets.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Floats up the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Indeed, any issues with the power rankings tonight and of.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
Course they're own.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
You know exactly what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 14 (41:21):
Look at this one, two, three, four five, in between
the Wellington Phoenix at number one and Auckland f C
at number seven. I mean the Phoenix lost their first
semi final game, that the Aukle FC have managed to
draw the first league of their one's ample that the
men's one runs a week later?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
If you listened to last week's power rankings, and which
I doubt you would have, because why would you? You
would have noticed that the Auckland FC team are much
further up the power rankings than the Phoenix women last
week because the results were effectively reversed. But I will
take your feedback on board and present it to my
regular producer and McDonald for his consideration as well.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
How would that be?
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (42:00):
Look, I just do you want to just tell the
audience where you're broadcasting from Jason.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
What I'd think we have time at six to eight
on Sports Talk. The final text from market A Jason.
Great morning for myself in Rochdale AFC. After a few
weeks of unbelievable drama then winning the National League Player
for at Wembley, we're back in the English Football League.
Maybe they make your power rankings tonight. Sorry Mark, they didn't,
but congratulations to you up the Dale as you say
congratulations to Rochdale. Thanks for listening in. Huge thanks to
(42:29):
Ants Mellissich for producing the show. Marcus lush as on
your radio after eight o'clock. See you on Weekend Sport
on Saturday live from Magic Round in Brisbane.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
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