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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
I think you should talk about a cricket now. So
after the first match of Super eighty gets Pakistan, it
was rained out right not good. They've got Sri Lanka tonight,
let's say tomorrow morning. To be real, what's two thirty.
They kind of really have to win this if they're
going to make the semifinals. Not all over if they don't,
but they've really got to get it done. Jacob Duffy
fast bottle for the black Caps. He's worth us now.
(00:35):
Sorry about the delay, Jacob Jake. You can't underestimate the
importance of this match, can you? After the Sri Lankan
weather pretty much poll acts your first game.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, you can't at all, mate.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I guess, well, any superrette game is pretty pretty important.
But yeah, obviously that ran out as but niggli and
let's leave things a little bit up in the end,
like everyone's sort of trying to figure out what these
scenarios are and everything else. But I guess just next
game has got to go and win the next game.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's all we can do.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, well, there's no real point getting into the leeds
around SNATI. It's all about play cricket. That's it. You
can't think any further.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
One hundred certainly the stage, just like if we went out,
if we win both games and it's not gonna be
problem anyway, and then if not, then I guess you
start looking at meth equations, and no, you can't at all.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I guess, well, any superrett game is pretty pretty important.
But yeah, obviously that ran out as but niggli and
let's leave things a little bit up in the air,
like everyone's sort of trying.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
To figure out what these scenarios are and everything else.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But I guess just next game has got to go
and win the next game. That's all we can do.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, well, there's no real point getting into the leads
around scenarios. It's all about play cricket. That's it. You
can't think any.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Further one hundred certainly the stage, just like if we
went out, if we win both games and it's not
gonna be problem anyway, and then if not, then I
guess you start looking at meth equations and let run
rates and things like that. But no, you're right, we've
all hold the way through this tournament. All we talked
about is as what's in front of us and that's
the next game, and no matter if it's Canada or Afghanistan,
like they're all as important as each other.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I suppose this T twenty one World Cup there's
no true wood spoken. With some of the results that
have popped up, it's like, wow, the minnow doesn't exist anymore,
especially in T twenty Jacob.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I know I've been saying that. I talked to the
guys like where's you gained? And you know, pup in
New Guinea and stuff. Those those teams are gone, man,
like the like Canada had a nineteen year ol kid
that worked a hundred against US year. You know, Nepaul
push in England right to the edge you got obviously
Zimbabwe like taking down a few.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Of the big dogs doesn't knows that it's just.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
The state of intentional cricket and they get something smaller
or that's just twenty twenty crickets, which in this country,
I guess it's a bit of a lottery maybe sometimes
but yeah, no, it's it's awesome to see like it's
when like for us obviously over here, time downs a
bit different back home but there's three games of cricket
on a day and they've all been very, very watchable.
They're all quite exciting and good to watch them. I
guess we find ourselves actually supporting under it quite a
(02:55):
lot too. So I remember sitting in the team room
watching Nepal almost take down England, which was quite fund
for the boys to watch. So from my point of view,
I know times owned sucks back home, but it's been
awesome for us to be watching.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm gonna put my cat just had on right now.
Jacob Duffy, you can't call it a lottery, not T twenty. Now.
You've got to have a plan. You've got to implement
that plan. You've got to execute that plane you win
the game. That whole losstery thing wasn't that like ten
years ago?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Maybe maybe poor choice of words, but I guess the
lottery part of it as well.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm talking maybe from a bowler's point of views.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You can now everything you want to now and the
ball can still get sent, which you know that sucks.
And obviously you get, like I said, we can run
into a Canadian nineteen year old who had one hundred,
and you know who's on a different day that could
have been enough of them. So you run in to
a guy on a heater like that can be enough
for a team to win, which can be the scary
or the awesome part, because we've got a few sort
(03:48):
of expected players that can do that to you too.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I feel told off. I'm going to go back into
my corner now and keep a mouth shake. You're right
on that. So let's look to that plane. You're ready
to go for Pakistan. All those plans have been shelved.
Do you attach the same plan to this Sri Lankan game?
That obviously different opponent? But is it a similar style?
Is that what the coaching staff have been talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Not really, too honest, we obviously doing this.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You know, at home, you have a series against the
team so that Western needs, and you play against them
five times, and you know, you do.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Your scouting at the start of the series.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And you know you come up with your plans and
obviously throughout a series you're always adjusting seeing how they
react to using conditions and if they're playing any different.
But obviously over here you're it's a one game. You know,
a different team every game, So you know you do
your scouting and your prep for each team and quite honesoly,
like the Sharankans are quite different to the Pakistani guys.
They seem to like hit behind and look at a
lot more, use the pace a lot more, and very
(04:46):
much risky, whereas a lot of the pakistan guys are
quite power based guys who you know, liked it in
front of square and clear the rope that way. So
there's quite a lot of difference in that regard. But again,
like the conditions like these pictures were playing on in Shilanka,
compete ind are so different, so again we've gotta adjust
to that. And yeah, there's a lot to put into
the whole mix, but yeah, you'll be prepared either way.
(05:08):
I guess we could say.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So you talk about the difference in pitch the outfield,
I think they're slightly larger, although I'd say them Philips
couldn't care how big it was. He's still waking out
of the pack. The whole top order like that. But
how would you best describe the pitches? Because in India
you play games on the same ground, but the pitch
directly adjacent to one pitch, they're completely different. So what
(05:34):
do we experience this time out Ja.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, yes, well I'm Seemi learning along on the fly
a little bit too. There's obviously in India there's red
clay and black clay. They play differently. One, you know,
spins and bounces more ones.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's a bit more duller over here.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Wow, all the pitchers like on that we've watched from
the Shi linking games have been a lot slower and drier.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Spin plays a bigger part.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
So for example, the other night, I was left out
fish to come in just obviously for balance and get
more spinovers in and stuff. But they bigger boundaries too,
so you know we call a little bit of Canterbury cricket,
you know, knocking him into the leg side and running
two hard toos instead of so maybe less boundaries kind
of thing. So it is a different ball game. They're
just dryer workouts. They you know, teams obviously grab and
(06:21):
spin a bit more. I think we saw it was
that Pakistan into your game. There's only two overs of
seam from Pakistan, so it is a little bit different.
But you know, we got so many spin options. We
obtusly got GP and we got rapch in with along
with our front line spinners, and you're coal and the
mixed mouth too, so we've got all the options covered.
So it's just about putting their best in the park
(06:42):
and obviously adapting to a different air. Betters have to
adapt to different sort of attacks.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you expect that's just a straight out fight between
you and Matt Henry to get a seaman's role or
likely maybe to go in with a couple of you placement.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I guess would say that. But the other night,
well before the rain out, there was a team named
and Matt and Lockey are the two seamers, which is, yeah,
that's cool. They're obviously world class experience bowlers. So that's
final hanging the hat to those guys and let the
spinners take over for the rest.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, I wasn't going to say that. It was just
being nice, wasn't I?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That way?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You'll keep answering the phone. When you look at the
black Caps so far, you've got to say that the
top order have helped this team out immensely. Sometimes you
guys get carted, that's T twenty cricket for you. But
the application, the intensity of that top four that just
(07:36):
makes you grin from ear to ear. These guys are
in rare form right now.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, that's awesome, and having the best bros on your
side is pretty cool obviously, Finn Si far Top. It's
a pretty electric sort of opening partnership that you know,
we're all pretty we're pretty excited about. But i'll tell
you what the other day was at the Afghanistan game.
You know, there's obviously that that was the nervy one.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We all knew it happened a couple of years ago,
and we sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Thought that was sort of the decider of the pool
that one, even though it was the first game. Obviously
they got one eighty on a pretty good work out
and we thought, okay, that's around par and then we
were two down early. But then you've got the likes
of you know, Chapi and Darryll to come in five
and six. And I'll tell you what, having Darren Mitchel
stright out at number six, as you know, as a
guy sitting on the sideline number at batting number eleven,
(08:20):
you feel very confident with that sort of you know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
He's going to be there at the end.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You've got that sort of calm, cool head who's been there,
done it, has the power when he needs it, but
he's just a smart cricketer, so I feel very good
about our whole line up, all the whole way.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So the boys, the boys are firing at the right time.
I reckon, I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
She's a long way back to lums And, isn't it.
You've traveled a bit of a distance, you play a
bit of cricket. Next thing you know, you're a globe troll.
How's this going for you?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, that's weird. I've had some funny interviews about people telling.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Me what Lumson's like back home and.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And the amount of snow we're getting the winters and
things like that. But that's cool, man. We're just you know,
obviously there's there's a bit of niggli stuff. Obviously I've
left a pregnant wife at home for four months, which
that's not easy. But there's some pretty bloody cool parts
of it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Two.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, you come to a cool place like Columbo's amazing place.
So we're trotting around India, which is pretty sick. And
then after it's got a PR two for another couple
of months, so it's a lot of time in Asia.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm joining.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I'm enjoying the carries, so hopefully I can enjoy them
for another couple of months here.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Nice work. And I can tell the generation you at
because you described it as pretty sick. Dad in itself
is pretty sick. Bro. Jacob Duffy, wishing you all of
the best. Get in there, get stuck in and have
you got a message for your poor wife.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
My poor wife. I'll be home soon. No, I talked
to her on a daily She knows, she says what's about.
But yeah, she's she's doing the tough work. She's doing
the tough work, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's okay. She will hand it back to you. Come
the dream feeds and you're getting up early. Don't you worry.
She'll get her own back. Jacob Duffy, A real pleasure
as always, mate, you look after yourself, go well and win.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, we'll do it best mate.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
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