Today, the teams were named for the second round of the NPC and one particular selection raised plenty of eyebrows.
Wellington Lions loose forward Du’Plessis Kirifi was named to start at second five for their match against Auckland on Saturday.
Wellington Lions head coach Trent Renata joined D'Arcy to discuss what inspired the change.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from news Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be good any name, Trent Hey? Good Eh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I think you're released some hounds on the media on
the rugby fans today. When Doop says he's more commonly
known Pope Carriffy got named at second five eight, that's
got to be the first question, What the where did
that come from?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah, the cat's out the bag and yes, dooples see,
we'll be planning it in the midfield for us this
weekend against Auckland. Unfortunately, we've got a pretty extensive list
of injuries and unavailabilities and now especially in our backs
in particular, so it wasn't one that was.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Taken lightly.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
There was, I suppose the need and yeah, it's an
exciting prospect, and I suppose one that everyone's sort of
looking forward to. What was the conversation, like, I suppose,
like anything for the positional change, you want to make
sure that the player is confident and what they can
do in their ability.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But duplessly he loses.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Confidence and the team believes in them as well as himself.
And I suppose it's just getting around the things that
he might need a bit of learning or might need
to get comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But I think we can all agree with the footy
player that he is.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
He's a hell of a footy player and like I say,
an exciting prospect and one we look forward to this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How much do you have to tweak what you're doing
are both on defense and offense too, now that you've
got a guy in a very unfamiliar jersey in the
middle of that back line.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, I suppose there's potentially some tweaks a somewhat obviously assume,
But like I said, and the footy player is, he
brings a different angle, like I said, a bit of
optimism to the team and a different angle that I'm
sure everybody's intrigued to sort of find out. So he
gets across the detail fine, Like I say, the footy
playing professional he is. He's a serman of the team
(02:07):
and it's always a team first mentality.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And yeah, we're looking forward to what he brings on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We're all super intrigued to see what he's going to
bring as well. Here, you got any idea about how
he's going to react out there? I mean, you've been
running him right for the last couple of days in training.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, like I say, he's a professional.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He gets into his book, he does his work, so
he understands the challenge at hand, and that he's put
his hand up for the team. And then, like I say,
in a position and like I say, with the backs
and need at the moment with our extensive unavailability and
injury list, that, yeah, he's willing to step into that
role for us this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Has he got a kicking game trend?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I don't know. You'll be able to tell me. I'm
pretty sure he's got it with the right boot.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm fascinated to see how that unfolds.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The general consensus is that he's doing this because he
needs more versatility, but you basically shot that down straight away.
It's about covering for injury, especially in the back line
of him man side, But giving him an extra string
to his bow, is it possible that might make him
more tempting to the All Black selectors?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that we're doing it to sort
of express that versatility.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm sure Back's sorry were back himself, as we all do.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But yeah, in the positions that we need at the moment,
especially for the team, he's put his hands up.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We have one hundred percent confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And belief in him, and yeah, I'm sure you'll go
out there and do his best.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Interesting, isn't it the way rugby's developing with these hybrid
players all suddenly becoming very much in vogue. Maybe back
in your day it wouldn't happen, not that OLG, not
even forty A. Sorry about that. Maybe back in my
day it was as well? Is that the way the
game is expanding and running that guys are now multi faceted.
(03:57):
They have a lot of ability and they can play
all sorts of different rugby depending on what's required.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I suppose it's.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Fong andok who'd done it with the Crusaders obviously going
the other way from becksm to Fords, and I think
over the years Larachelle used Buttier in there seven Jersey
as well as the midfield. It's I suppose some of
the qualities that Duke's possesses.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He bowls a hard ball when he runs, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He's a great reader on defense, and we know the
threat that he is there, so he'll be looking to
utilize those things as well as the team to our advantage.
And hopefully you know, like I say, it's optimistic and
one of those exciting ones that that we're all looking
forward to seeing.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I can see him out there in the midfield shaping
to tech kick and the opposition just pausing for two seconds,
going what are you doing? I mean, Duke's just runs
straight over the top of him. I think that might
be one of his tactics.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, well, we look forward to scene if that is.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm sure if it is on the kick that he
will beck himself, we beck him as well. I know
he's got a canon of a right foot, so yeah,
weft to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What about the adjustment? So the rest of the team
with such a big change, how hard does that work
with what they are going to put down? Plainly, they're
ready and willing and they'll do it. But it's not
just Deeps playing out of position. It's a number of
other players that have to work with him in that space.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, and I think that was definitely front of mine
when we made the decision potentially having to move around
some other players into positions. We obviously had ten on
debut in Round one, which them sort of learning the
expectations at this level, trying to keep it simple for
the team that, like I said, the professional that dups
(05:45):
is and the team man he is, he puts his
hand up and I'll show every films that role just fine.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I think more than your own team going to worry
about the opposition as well. You've got any PC class
against Auckland's. This is a great fixture. What do you
have to pick up after last week because it didn't
go well? And I'm being polite here, what adjustments do
you have to make? What do you focus on in
the lead up to this? Fixed you?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, I suppose round one ten boys on debut, no
excuses of anything. It's all a learning but we're early days.
Every day we go on there, we earn our days.
We look to improve and get better and the fixes
that we need to we've addressed that, and yeah, we
look forward to putting it out there on Saturday against
(06:29):
what I know will be a strong walking team.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You can't fix experience. You just can't dial that, don't they.
There you go, You've got a hole of the games
under your belt. So what specifically do you think you
need to look at? Is there any aspect of play
that worried you or you thought there might be more
room to improve.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, they I mean full credit to Hawk's Bay. They're
a classy team and they got up the gate pretty quick.
It's definitely one area that we want to step up that,
knowing the strength and power that Auckland do have. If
they get on top early, then it's going to be
a tough day for us. So like most teams we
saw in the first round, the teams that got out
the gate early, their physical physical around their ball carries.
(07:09):
It's definitely things that we're striving to be topping and that.
But yes, it's probably my perspective around the first round.
The teams that got out the gate, their ball carriers,
got into the game and they won the physicality.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
We're the ones that came out on top.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So you drop the flag and you go right from
the get go.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well that's the plan. Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Forward to seeing that plan and action up against Auckland
this weekend. Of course, Auckland probably are looking a few
wounds as well after what happened last weekend against Canterbury.
But that's the beauty of the MPC, this wonderful traditional
rivalry and it's all about playing for your city and
your province. It warms my heart as an old man
Italia trend.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No, like you say, fifty years of proud provincial pride
and what I love about MPCs of tribalism and like
we talk about that their pride and unions and that
and the rivalry with Auckland over the years. Again, it's
to be a banger on Saturday and we look forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Thank you very much for your time. Hugely appreciate it. Mate.
You go out there and have a bunch of fun.
We are certainly going to be watching to see if
dups can shape to kick and run over.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, that awesome. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from news Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be good any name, Trent Hey? Good Eh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I think you're released some hounds on the media on
the rugby fans today. When Doop says he's more commonly
known Pope Carriffy got named at second five eight, that's
got to be the first question, What the where did
that come from?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah, the cat's out the bag and yes, dooples see,
we'll be planning it in the midfield for us this
weekend against Auckland. Unfortunately, we've got a pretty extensive list
of injuries and unavailabilities and now especially in our backs
in particular, so it wasn't one that was.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Taken lightly.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
There was, I suppose the need and yeah, it's an
exciting prospect, and I suppose one that everyone's sort of
looking forward to. What was the conversation, like, I suppose,
like anything for the positional change, you want to make
sure that the player is confident and what they can
do in their ability.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But duplessly he loses.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Confidence and the team believes in them as well as himself.
And I suppose it's just getting around the things that
he might need a bit of learning or might need
to get comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But I think we can all agree with the footy
player that he is.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
He's a hell of a footy player and like I say,
an exciting prospect and one we look forward to this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How much do you have to tweak what you're doing
are both on defense and offense too, now that you've
got a guy in a very unfamiliar jersey in the
middle of that back line.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, I suppose there's potentially some tweaks a somewhat obviously assume,
But like I said, and the footy player is, he
brings a different angle, like I said, a bit of
optimism to the team and a different angle that I'm
sure everybody's intrigued to sort of find out. So he
gets across the detail fine, Like I say, the footy
playing professional he is. He's a serman of the team
(02:07):
and it's always a team first mentality.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And yeah, we're looking forward to what he brings on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We're all super intrigued to see what he's going to
bring as well. Here, you got any idea about how
he's going to react out there? I mean, you've been
running him right for the last couple of days in training.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, like I say, he's a professional.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He gets into his book, he does his work, so
he understands the challenge at hand, and that he's put
his hand up for the team. And then, like I say,
in a position and like I say, with the backs
and need at the moment with our extensive unavailability and
injury list, that, yeah, he's willing to step into that
role for us this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Has he got a kicking game trend?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I don't know. You'll be able to tell me. I'm
pretty sure he's got it with the right boot.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm fascinated to see how that unfolds.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The general consensus is that he's doing this because he
needs more versatility, but you basically shot that down straight away.
It's about covering for injury, especially in the back line
of him man side, But giving him an extra string
to his bow, is it possible that might make him
more tempting to the All Black selectors?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that we're doing it to sort
of express that versatility.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm sure Back's sorry were back himself, as we all do.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But yeah, in the positions that we need at the moment,
especially for the team, he's put his hands up.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We have one hundred percent confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And belief in him, and yeah, I'm sure you'll go
out there and do his best.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Interesting, isn't it the way rugby's developing with these hybrid
players all suddenly becoming very much in vogue. Maybe back
in your day it wouldn't happen, not that OLG, not
even forty A. Sorry about that. Maybe back in my
day it was as well? Is that the way the
game is expanding and running that guys are now multi faceted.
(03:57):
They have a lot of ability and they can play
all sorts of different rugby depending on what's required.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I suppose it's.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Fong andok who'd done it with the Crusaders obviously going
the other way from becksm to Fords, and I think
over the years Larachelle used Buttier in there seven Jersey
as well as the midfield. It's I suppose some of
the qualities that Duke's possesses.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He bowls a hard ball when he runs, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He's a great reader on defense, and we know the
threat that he is there, so he'll be looking to
utilize those things as well as the team to our advantage.
And hopefully you know, like I say, it's optimistic and
one of those exciting ones that that we're all looking
forward to seeing.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I can see him out there in the midfield shaping
to tech kick and the opposition just pausing for two seconds,
going what are you doing? I mean, Duke's just runs
straight over the top of him. I think that might
be one of his tactics.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, well, we look forward to scene if that is.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm sure if it is on the kick that he
will beck himself, we beck him as well. I know
he's got a canon of a right foot, so yeah,
weft to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What about the adjustment? So the rest of the team
with such a big change, how hard does that work
with what they are going to put down? Plainly, they're
ready and willing and they'll do it. But it's not
just Deeps playing out of position. It's a number of
other players that have to work with him in that space.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, and I think that was definitely front of mine
when we made the decision potentially having to move around
some other players into positions. We obviously had ten on
debut in Round one, which them sort of learning the
expectations at this level, trying to keep it simple for
the team that, like I said, the professional that dups
(05:45):
is and the team man he is, he puts his
hand up and I'll show every films that role just fine.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I think more than your own team going to worry
about the opposition as well. You've got any PC class
against Auckland's. This is a great fixture. What do you
have to pick up after last week because it didn't
go well? And I'm being polite here, what adjustments do
you have to make? What do you focus on in
the lead up to this? Fixed you?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, I suppose round one ten boys on debut, no
excuses of anything. It's all a learning but we're early days.
Every day we go on there, we earn our days.
We look to improve and get better and the fixes
that we need to we've addressed that, and yeah, we
look forward to putting it out there on Saturday against
(06:29):
what I know will be a strong walking team.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You can't fix experience. You just can't dial that, don't they.
There you go, You've got a hole of the games
under your belt. So what specifically do you think you
need to look at? Is there any aspect of play
that worried you or you thought there might be more
room to improve.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, they I mean full credit to Hawk's Bay. They're
a classy team and they got up the gate pretty quick.
It's definitely one area that we want to step up that,
knowing the strength and power that Auckland do have. If
they get on top early, then it's going to be
a tough day for us. So like most teams we
saw in the first round, the teams that got out
the gate early, their physical physical around their ball carries.
(07:09):
It's definitely things that we're striving to be topping and that.
But yes, it's probably my perspective around the first round.
The teams that got out the gate, their ball carriers,
got into the game and they won the physicality.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
We're the ones that came out on top.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So you drop the flag and you go right from
the get go.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well that's the plan. Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Forward to seeing that plan and action up against Auckland
this weekend. Of course, Auckland probably are looking a few
wounds as well after what happened last weekend against Canterbury.
But that's the beauty of the MPC, this wonderful traditional
rivalry and it's all about playing for your city and
your province. It warms my heart as an old man
Italia trend.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No, like you say, fifty years of proud provincial pride
and what I love about MPCs of tribalism and like
we talk about that their pride and unions and that
and the rivalry with Auckland over the years. Again, it's
to be a banger on Saturday and we look forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Thank you very much for your time. Hugely appreciate it. Mate.
You go out there and have a bunch of fun.
We are certainly going to be watching to see if
dups can shape to kick and run over.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, that awesome. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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