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June 3, 2026 7 mins

We find the self-anointed Prince of the Provinces at Marsden Point, where he’s claiming glory for saving the nation in election year! We also discuss his role in the Rural Industry Leaders Debate at Fieldays, and the six animal welfare complaints lodged with MPI after he “cradled a crayfish in its final hours” in Parliament. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kicking off the country today live from Marsden Point, where
he's watching a shipload of diesel being unloaded. I think
is New Zealand's natural answer to the shortage of natural
gas because this amount man amids plenty of it. I
say that in jess Shane Jones, Prince of the Provinces,
because when you're not at Marsden Point, you are cradling

(00:21):
crayfish in Parliament. Talk to me about the diesel.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hi, I'm up at Marsden Point. As you know, I
found the money to recommission one hundred million liter tank.
All of these great assets were basically degraded by Jacinda
and Meghan Woods. The worst politician from an energy perspective
ever too existed in New Zealand. But look, we do

(00:47):
need additional storage for fuel. That ship is literally on
its way. I'm here because the recommissioning is ober. It's
ready to rock and roll. I wanted to ensure that
I have a photo opportunity because we're also setting up
a special economic zone. According to my leader, after we

(01:09):
enjoy the fruits of victory at the next election, God willing,
and hey, I should deserve some of the some of
the credit for having saved a small part of Marston
Point Refinery and.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
It sounds like a photo opportunity an election year for me. Hey,
just before I forget, you are leading one of the
debating teams at field Days next week, at the big
fundraiser for the Rural Support Trust. It's the Rural Industry
Leader's debate. And let me lock who's in, because do
you know anything about this? Has anyone told you you're
doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I am nothing but a dutiful sevant of the Caucus
of New Zealand. First, I do what I'm told. But
any opportunity to shine in front of you, I've seize it.
Any opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, you Sue's Redmain who was very good in the
same debate last year, and Jessica much McKay. There's a name,
a blast from the past in one team. And I
think Karen MacNulty's leading the other team. And he's got
to radar and Hamish mckaye and my offside to hear
from the country. So I reckon there could be some
good barbs flying, especially between you and Karen.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh, don't worry about that. He's a book he as
you know, cut his teeth on calling the second or
third leg of the race there at Alice Lee or
whatever's left at tohed Niko.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, hopefully you turn up. Apparently you were asked last year,
but you were a no show.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
No no, no, no, no no no. My wife is
dedicated several days of me at Mystery Creek, and I
want everyone to remember I found the money to help
with the irrigation and the wastewater. Not that I'll be
not that I'll be likened to wastewater when I turn
up this year for the big jamboree for the farmers
at Mystery Creek. But there was a bit of dough
needed to sort out the infrastructure, and the Prince of

(02:55):
the Provinces, the caretaker of the infrastructure fund, delivered for
you cockies there in Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Six animal welfare complaints have been lodged with the Ministry
of Primary Industries after Shane Jones that's you brought a
live crayfish to Parliament. You claimed that you were simply
cradling the crayfish in its final hours.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean, what the hell's wrong with this country? Made
I get given a car by than my toe because
I'm the best fisheries minister that anyone can remember way
back since nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Paint you do you realize that's quite a trumpy and
sort of commentary on yourself, the best fisher fishing minister ever.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I can't help but claim credit for things that
have mutted about me in dark recesses of public bars
on the South Island. And look, it just seemed to
me that it was a massive cray It was an
example of my stewardship and how I'm regarded in the
South Island. Look, I couldn't take it into parliament. Jerry
Brow were to confiscated and consumed it. And I just

(04:03):
didn't know that a whole lot of people with nothing
better to do with start scribbling letters to MPI who
technically worked for me. Some of them do and they
have to now investigate with and I've broken the law.
I don't think I have. And by the way, it
entertained a hell of a lot of people, both in
the media. I mean someone tried to pat. It shows

(04:23):
how few of these woke riddle journalists understand it. You
don't pat a crayfish. It can actually use its barbs
and bite you, almost god to bite you, pinch you.
It went in the pot made in it satisfied the.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, well I was going to say, I was going
to ask that question. You've answered it. Did the crayfish
come to a sticky end? Yes, it did, just a
couple to finish on. Actually, I'm going to be talking
to Jen Corchran from Rabobanks shortly on the country and
the RABO research team, their international team, have come out
with a rather pessimistic baseline forecast for the strait of
her Moves to remain closed until September. They're also thinking

(05:00):
that the forecast price for a barrel of oil will
be one hundred and twenty and Q three one hundred
dollars in Q four. That's bad news if that was
to come to pass.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah. Look, there's so many models and there's so much speculation.
There's two ways to respond to this issue. Are we
going to suffer a crisis of physical scarcity or is
it just going to be an ongoing price issue. We're
being told that will continue to gain access to fuel,

(05:32):
but the price is going to be the problem. And
you know as well as I do, the price does
end up destroying demand. But mate, every time we think
there's a glimmer of hope, then there's a new tweet
and I have to recalibrate what we've planned on. It's
not flash but you know, we're at the end of
the railway line and I say to your cockies and

(05:53):
the people listening, and they're in their thousands, hundreds of thousands,
that we're doing everything we can to maintain supply to
New Zealand, but we don't have a refinery. We have
few options, and over time we're going to have to
lessen our demand on imported fuel. But in the short
term we've got to manage our way through this FIESCA.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Have you and Winston never thought of a bit of
a bit of nuclear power? Perhaps? Well?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We took a remit to our party conference whether or
not we should explore and start a conversation about these small,
modular options for nuclear fusion. There's a difference between fusion
and fission, and we did allocate some money about thirty
million or the blessings of our cabinet. There's a wee

(06:42):
initiative being pursued by a brilliant young physicist there in
Wellington and he's seeking to, I guess bust open a
new frontier of energy in New Zealand using nuclear technology,
but it's some way off. The remit didn't actually find
a great deal of traction, but it's not as if
we were afraid to open up the discussion that was

(07:05):
at our last party conference. But there doesn't seem to
be a great deal of appetite amongst garden variety. Qwis
for adding nuclear technology to the options to generate cheap
energy in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Shane Jones live from Marsden Point. The greatest Minister of
Fisheries ever. He's a big, beautiful Minister of Fisheries. Thanks
for your time, See you buddy.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Bye bye.
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