June 4, 2024 • 7 mins
The Acting PM talks funding cancer drugs, banning Te Pati Maori from Parliament , buddying up with Winston and what are the ramifications of the US Presidential election for NZ trade.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is Prime Minister for a day or two, the
acting Prime Minister David Seymour to kick off the country
while the cats away, the mice will play. David, are
you going to fund the cancer drugs? Change all the
schools to charter schools, ban to party Maori from parliament?
What have you got planned over the next couple of
days all of.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That and more. We're going to trek farmers with tremendous
respect and return for feeding a nation in the world
and bringing an export receipts. We're going to get rid
of orange cones up and down the country. And we're
also going to be very clear that to Party Mardi,
who are welcome to have their own parliament. In fact,
(00:40):
I'd be quite happy for them to go and set
up their own paramatta somewhere, just so long as it
doesn't have the ability to text us. That would be
my kind of parliament.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, let's address the serious issue of not funding the
cancer drugs or promising to fund them at some stage
in the future. Empty p This is without a definitive
time frame. Does little really to help someone who's dying
of cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
David, Well, you're right, and I'm responsible for fire matnets
from my jobs and dis governments, and I get leaders
every day from people and positions where it really is
life or death. I mean, I know people say that
all the time, but in this case it's actually true,
(01:26):
and your heart goes out to the devastating situation. I've
had people lost to cancer in my family. I know
it'll be hard to believe many people listening heaven. And
at the same time, around the world, drug companies are
inventing new treatments, literally at an exponential rate, like I've
seen the graph of new treatments coming on board. The
(01:50):
challenge for our government is to afford more of them.
So the National Party came into government making this promise
of turky new cancer treatment, and as a Minister for Farleek,
along with other ministers in the government, they're doing everything
we can to make sure that they can keep their
(02:10):
promise to their voters. But you know what, the way
that this budget has shaken out, it wasn't at the
front of the queue, but nonetheless, you know, I think
that we will actually find a way to do it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
David Seymour, acting Prime Minister, how are you getting on
these days? With Winston? I thought there would be more
scraps between you two. But it seems to be all
rather amicable at the moment. Will that change when he
has to step aside for you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, I wouldn't think so. I think everyone's been really
just preoccupied with the challenges that the country faces. I
thank you go up there and hear what's on people's mind.
This is not a time that people have a great
appetite for politics, pretty keen on solutions, say the money,
reducing taxes and also making sure that many much neglected
(03:03):
public services are restored to some reasonable level, whether it's
policing and law and order, or even as we've been
discussing farmac, I mean that was left unfunded by the
previous guys. So you know, I think probably the level
of challenge that we're faced has meant that we've all
be getting bound to business, dealing with red tape and
(03:24):
regulation and government waste, springing in charters, getting more cops
and so on.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Am I right to say that you spent some time
working or studying in North America? Was it the USA
or Canada?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Unfortunately for temperature Wife, I was in Canada. I was
up in the up in the Saskatchewan and Alberta prairies,
and it's actually where I really first got to understand
the culture of the farmer. Wonderful people out there who
make their living off the land with huge combine harvesters,
(03:58):
and you know, they're very much come and go with
the weather and the prices and stick together as a
rural group. And it's funny how similar you come back
to New Zealand. Mainly got cows instead of the mays
and wheat, but things largely the same spirit.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Now, the reason I ask is because later this week
our time, I think it's Friday, is what the fifty
sixth anniversary of the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. Now his
son RFK Junior, who Wikipedia describes as an environmental lawyer,
anti vaccine activist and conspiracy theorist, has rarely thrown a
(04:41):
cat amongst the pigeons in the US presidential race. How
do you see that playing out?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's kind of hard to say. I mean, it's a
bit like Nigel Farras jumping into the UK election. Reminds
me a little bit of Bob Jones in the nineteen
eighty four New Zealand election. It may be that twenty
twenty four is the year of the spoiler. Hard to say.
Of course, they don't have the m MP like us,
(05:09):
so if you vote for a third part, you really
are splitting the vote, whereas here in New Zealand vote
XA you just add to the total on the right.
But you know, I just make one observation from New
Zealand's point of view. One fundamental fact is that our
country has flourished over the last couple of hundred years
(05:29):
to what it is today, in large part because first
the British Navy and then the American Navy have dominated
the specific And that's meant that we have been safe
from incursions and able to trade with the world and
develop a pretty decent standard of living here. I mean,
it could be better and more productivity, but you know,
(05:50):
by a large New Zealand's a pretty successful place, and
I think anything that disrupts that will have greater effect
on New Zealand's peace and prosperity than anything else. So
whatever happens with the US election, I just hope that
the United States comes out as a country that's united,
(06:12):
that is economically strong, and that takes a long view
of world affairs, because it would be tempting for them
to say, well, look, we can pull back, have our
navy protecting our two coastlines and no one's really going
to bother us. The rest of the world can just
kind of turn it into a big squid game in
the long term. If they do that, they always end
(06:34):
up having to re engage. They were isolationists before World
War Two, but after a while they realized that Japan
and Germany would eventually threaten them and they have to
re engage at great cost. So I think the real
issue for New Zealand as will the United States remain stable,
united and committed it to world peace beyond their own borders,
(06:56):
because if they don't, we could have real issues.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Some prom rick and rhetoric there. Gee, David Seymour, acting PM,
you're starting to sound like the Deputy PM Winston Peters.
Your two peas in a pod. Great to chat. We'll
see you at Field days, come David. See men
He is Prime Minister for a day or two, the
acting Prime Minister David Seymour to kick off the country
while the cats away, the mice will play. David, are
you going to fund the cancer drugs? Change all the
schools to charter schools, ban to party Maori from parliament?
What have you got planned over the next couple of
days all of.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That and more. We're going to trek farmers with tremendous
respect and return for feeding a nation in the world
and bringing an export receipts. We're going to get rid
of orange cones up and down the country. And we're
also going to be very clear that to Party Mardi,
who are welcome to have their own parliament. In fact,
(00:40):
I'd be quite happy for them to go and set
up their own paramatta somewhere, just so long as it
doesn't have the ability to text us. That would be
my kind of parliament.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, let's address the serious issue of not funding the
cancer drugs or promising to fund them at some stage
in the future. Empty p This is without a definitive
time frame. Does little really to help someone who's dying
of cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
David, Well, you're right, and I'm responsible for fire matnets
from my jobs and dis governments, and I get leaders
every day from people and positions where it really is
life or death. I mean, I know people say that
all the time, but in this case it's actually true,
(01:26):
and your heart goes out to the devastating situation. I've
had people lost to cancer in my family. I know
it'll be hard to believe many people listening heaven. And
at the same time, around the world, drug companies are
inventing new treatments, literally at an exponential rate, like I've
seen the graph of new treatments coming on board. The
(01:50):
challenge for our government is to afford more of them.
So the National Party came into government making this promise
of turky new cancer treatment, and as a Minister for Farleek,
along with other ministers in the government, they're doing everything
we can to make sure that they can keep their
(02:10):
promise to their voters. But you know what, the way
that this budget has shaken out, it wasn't at the
front of the queue, but nonetheless, you know, I think
that we will actually find a way to do it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
David Seymour, acting Prime Minister, how are you getting on
these days? With Winston? I thought there would be more
scraps between you two. But it seems to be all
rather amicable at the moment. Will that change when he
has to step aside for you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, I wouldn't think so. I think everyone's been really
just preoccupied with the challenges that the country faces. I
thank you go up there and hear what's on people's mind.
This is not a time that people have a great
appetite for politics, pretty keen on solutions, say the money,
reducing taxes and also making sure that many much neglected
(03:03):
public services are restored to some reasonable level, whether it's
policing and law and order, or even as we've been
discussing farmac, I mean that was left unfunded by the
previous guys. So you know, I think probably the level
of challenge that we're faced has meant that we've all
be getting bound to business, dealing with red tape and
(03:24):
regulation and government waste, springing in charters, getting more cops
and so on.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Am I right to say that you spent some time
working or studying in North America? Was it the USA
or Canada?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Unfortunately for temperature Wife, I was in Canada. I was
up in the up in the Saskatchewan and Alberta prairies,
and it's actually where I really first got to understand
the culture of the farmer. Wonderful people out there who
make their living off the land with huge combine harvesters,
(03:58):
and you know, they're very much come and go with
the weather and the prices and stick together as a
rural group. And it's funny how similar you come back
to New Zealand. Mainly got cows instead of the mays
and wheat, but things largely the same spirit.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Now, the reason I ask is because later this week
our time, I think it's Friday, is what the fifty
sixth anniversary of the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. Now his
son RFK Junior, who Wikipedia describes as an environmental lawyer,
anti vaccine activist and conspiracy theorist, has rarely thrown a
(04:41):
cat amongst the pigeons in the US presidential race. How
do you see that playing out?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's kind of hard to say. I mean, it's a
bit like Nigel Farras jumping into the UK election. Reminds
me a little bit of Bob Jones in the nineteen
eighty four New Zealand election. It may be that twenty
twenty four is the year of the spoiler. Hard to say.
Of course, they don't have the m MP like us,
(05:09):
so if you vote for a third part, you really
are splitting the vote, whereas here in New Zealand vote
XA you just add to the total on the right.
But you know, I just make one observation from New
Zealand's point of view. One fundamental fact is that our
country has flourished over the last couple of hundred years
(05:29):
to what it is today, in large part because first
the British Navy and then the American Navy have dominated
the specific And that's meant that we have been safe
from incursions and able to trade with the world and
develop a pretty decent standard of living here. I mean,
it could be better and more productivity, but you know,
(05:50):
by a large New Zealand's a pretty successful place, and
I think anything that disrupts that will have greater effect
on New Zealand's peace and prosperity than anything else. So
whatever happens with the US election, I just hope that
the United States comes out as a country that's united,
(06:12):
that is economically strong, and that takes a long view
of world affairs, because it would be tempting for them
to say, well, look, we can pull back, have our
navy protecting our two coastlines and no one's really going
to bother us. The rest of the world can just
kind of turn it into a big squid game in
the long term. If they do that, they always end
(06:34):
up having to re engage. They were isolationists before World
War Two, but after a while they realized that Japan
and Germany would eventually threaten them and they have to
re engage at great cost. So I think the real
issue for New Zealand as will the United States remain stable,
united and committed it to world peace beyond their own borders,
(06:56):
because if they don't, we could have real issues.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Some prom rick and rhetoric there. Gee, David Seymour, acting PM,
you're starting to sound like the Deputy PM Winston Peters.
Your two peas in a pod. Great to chat. We'll
see you at Field days, come David. See men
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