May 8, 2025 • 6 mins
Deer farmer and NZ Farming Facebook page founder on "new opportunities" for venison, the GE Bill, and whether we should pull out of the Paris Agreement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Duncan hum is a mid Canterbury dairy farmer, is also
the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page. New opportunities
for Venison. Did you hear me talking to Kendall Langston
about new opportunities and what that means in the corporate world?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Duncan Ah, Yeah, yeah, hopefully we're not talking the same
thing because I quite like my job and yeah, no,
it would be quite disappointing to I have to go
and find new opportunities elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, I quite like my job because I'd hate to
do a proper one. It would be too hard to
work at my age anyhow, Duncan, So, what are these
new opportunities for Venison? Because we're going to run out
of there shortly. I see we're down to where's my livestock? Numbers?
Were down to what seven hundred and nine thousand deer?
We used to have them like close to a million.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, that's quite frightening that and yeah, I'll see some
critical mass issues coming to play when the numbers do dwindle.
But yeah, there's been a lot cooking for quite a
while actually in the background, always looking for new markets
and stuff for Venison. Venison products obviously looking for things
to do like nose to tail for that whole animal good.
(01:15):
Example is the company we supply sends venison to a
company called Force Nature Meats in the USA, and they're
doing things. They've got a mince product that's also got
organ meat in it, and that's an absolute flying off
the shelves and selling for bloody good money. So that
makes good use of mints and then yeah, also awful
(01:39):
that used to go to stuff like pet food and
that sort of thing, which is hard hard to get
good liable money for.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, duncan, what do you dear farmers get paid at
the moment for a kilo of venison?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think the last time I sent stuff was Bear
in mind it's sort of low point of the season.
I think we're about nine fifty akilo.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I think so you're just a wee bit more expensive
than lamb on a per kilo basis. Why is venison
so expensive and almost hard to obtain like in our supermarkets?
I know that Silver Fern Farms, to their credit, do
a wonderful venison package, but it's not cheap. Why isn't
venison cheaper? Why aren't you guys having a crack at
the domestic market because I think if people got the
(02:20):
opportunity to get venison at a reasonable price, they would
love it because it's just a magnificent meat.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean it is great. Well silver Fern have done
in the domestic market with their monthsity I do it
does call us a bit when you see it what
we get paid and the difference between what it is
on the shelf for the people who want to eat it.
That said, I'll give a wee shout out to Merchant
the Venison, which is a local company here in Canterbury.
(02:50):
You can buy it online and are pretty reasonable. They
supply a lot of restaurants and stuff around Canterbury as well,
so yeah, it's around. But yeah, I'd love it for
to be less of a gap between what we get
paid and what the consumer pays.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What a great name for a company, the Merchant of Venison.
Very clever play on words. Okay, I want to talk
to you about two things. The ge Bill you're dead
against that, and then the Paris Accord. You're dead against
us staying in there.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We'll start with the Paris Accord. I'm hearing whispers that
a collaboration pole across the methane science, Accord, Groundswell and
NZ Farming is going to put out some numbers around
Paris and they're not going to be good for staying in.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah. Well it's always interesting, you know when you see online.
Obviously I work around on digital most of the time
rather than newspapers and whatnot. But yeah, it's always interesting
what you have the gut feeling you get reading online
from people, what their thoughts are. And so we had
a pretty good idea what most grassroots farmers and people
(03:59):
who eat flood I think, and so we decided we'd
try and put some data around that because it's a
bit hard to get sort of like a unsiloed survey
from you know, like an industry group does it or
something like that. So it's hard to get some good
numbers and some good data. So yeah, we decided to
get together and put a pole ass and yeah, some
(04:21):
good data coming in.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And watch, well, how BIG's the poll? What's your margin
of era or is this just going to be the
disenfranchised vot on?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Not quite what a margin of error is, But obviously
we've all got some pretty big audiences or people in
our community, so we've had sure what the initial number
is but yeah, close to something like fifteen hundred responses
so to a ten keen question survey.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, well we'll await that. And just a quick final
comment from you on the ge bell. Do you think
from a deer farmer's point of view anyhow, that we're
going down the wrong track and pursuing.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
This Well, were we're really lucky. We're real closely connected
to the people who literally pick the stuff off the
shelves in the States and eat it and what they want.
And that joker from their salesmen. I something from Agrazero
the other day was saying, the Whole Foods are talking
about carbon tunnel vision, but certainly from Whole Foods and
(05:21):
people who buy from Force of Nature in the States,
they're not telling us that at all. They are interested
about soil health, healthy food and unbastardized food from additives
and GMO stuff venison. We've already got a sign a
declaration that they haven't had any GMO feeds or anything
in their lifetime already. So we've been doing that for years.
(05:43):
And yeah, we could be it in the ship really
if that goes ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, that's a nice direct way of stating it dunk
and got to go because I've got to go to
Jason Wills. Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward to
your poll and association with the methane sign and succording
groundswell on the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
We'll see you later. Yep, no worries.
Duncan hum is a mid Canterbury dairy farmer, is also
the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page. New opportunities
for Venison. Did you hear me talking to Kendall Langston
about new opportunities and what that means in the corporate world?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Duncan Ah, Yeah, yeah, hopefully we're not talking the same
thing because I quite like my job and yeah, no,
it would be quite disappointing to I have to go
and find new opportunities elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, I quite like my job because I'd hate to
do a proper one. It would be too hard to
work at my age anyhow, Duncan, So, what are these
new opportunities for Venison? Because we're going to run out
of there shortly. I see we're down to where's my livestock? Numbers?
Were down to what seven hundred and nine thousand deer?
We used to have them like close to a million.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, that's quite frightening that and yeah, I'll see some
critical mass issues coming to play when the numbers do dwindle.
But yeah, there's been a lot cooking for quite a
while actually in the background, always looking for new markets
and stuff for Venison. Venison products obviously looking for things
to do like nose to tail for that whole animal good.
(01:15):
Example is the company we supply sends venison to a
company called Force Nature Meats in the USA, and they're
doing things. They've got a mince product that's also got
organ meat in it, and that's an absolute flying off
the shelves and selling for bloody good money. So that
makes good use of mints and then yeah, also awful
(01:39):
that used to go to stuff like pet food and
that sort of thing, which is hard hard to get
good liable money for.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, duncan, what do you dear farmers get paid at
the moment for a kilo of venison?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think the last time I sent stuff was Bear
in mind it's sort of low point of the season.
I think we're about nine fifty akilo.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I think so you're just a wee bit more expensive
than lamb on a per kilo basis. Why is venison
so expensive and almost hard to obtain like in our supermarkets?
I know that Silver Fern Farms, to their credit, do
a wonderful venison package, but it's not cheap. Why isn't
venison cheaper? Why aren't you guys having a crack at
the domestic market because I think if people got the
(02:20):
opportunity to get venison at a reasonable price, they would
love it because it's just a magnificent meat.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean it is great. Well silver Fern have done
in the domestic market with their monthsity I do it
does call us a bit when you see it what
we get paid and the difference between what it is
on the shelf for the people who want to eat it.
That said, I'll give a wee shout out to Merchant
the Venison, which is a local company here in Canterbury.
(02:50):
You can buy it online and are pretty reasonable. They
supply a lot of restaurants and stuff around Canterbury as well,
so yeah, it's around. But yeah, I'd love it for
to be less of a gap between what we get
paid and what the consumer pays.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What a great name for a company, the Merchant of Venison.
Very clever play on words. Okay, I want to talk
to you about two things. The ge Bill you're dead
against that, and then the Paris Accord. You're dead against
us staying in there.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We'll start with the Paris Accord. I'm hearing whispers that
a collaboration pole across the methane science, Accord, Groundswell and
NZ Farming is going to put out some numbers around
Paris and they're not going to be good for staying in.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah. Well it's always interesting, you know when you see online.
Obviously I work around on digital most of the time
rather than newspapers and whatnot. But yeah, it's always interesting
what you have the gut feeling you get reading online
from people, what their thoughts are. And so we had
a pretty good idea what most grassroots farmers and people
(03:59):
who eat flood I think, and so we decided we'd
try and put some data around that because it's a
bit hard to get sort of like a unsiloed survey
from you know, like an industry group does it or
something like that. So it's hard to get some good
numbers and some good data. So yeah, we decided to
get together and put a pole ass and yeah, some
(04:21):
good data coming in.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And watch, well, how BIG's the poll? What's your margin
of era or is this just going to be the
disenfranchised vot on?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Not quite what a margin of error is, But obviously
we've all got some pretty big audiences or people in
our community, so we've had sure what the initial number
is but yeah, close to something like fifteen hundred responses
so to a ten keen question survey.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, well we'll await that. And just a quick final
comment from you on the ge bell. Do you think
from a deer farmer's point of view anyhow, that we're
going down the wrong track and pursuing.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
This Well, were we're really lucky. We're real closely connected
to the people who literally pick the stuff off the
shelves in the States and eat it and what they want.
And that joker from their salesmen. I something from Agrazero
the other day was saying, the Whole Foods are talking
about carbon tunnel vision, but certainly from Whole Foods and
(05:21):
people who buy from Force of Nature in the States,
they're not telling us that at all. They are interested
about soil health, healthy food and unbastardized food from additives
and GMO stuff venison. We've already got a sign a
declaration that they haven't had any GMO feeds or anything
in their lifetime already. So we've been doing that for years.
(05:43):
And yeah, we could be it in the ship really
if that goes ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, that's a nice direct way of stating it dunk
and got to go because I've got to go to
Jason Wills. Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward to
your poll and association with the methane sign and succording
groundswell on the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
We'll see you later. Yep, no worries.
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