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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mackay on sport with farm lands for clothing to keep cool,
dry and protected.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
A J Weddon. Good afternoon, sir, How are.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You homus Mackay? Good afternoon, backcaping New Year, mate, And
to hear your dogs with tones on the radio.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You're nice to be on the old wireless. What do
we need now, aj? I mean it's a pretty brutal
old world, doesn't it. Raiser gone twenty four hours later?
What do we need now from an all black coach
to resurrect things because it hasn't been good for a while.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah. Look, I heard a couple of rumblings a week
or two ago from a friend of mine who was
close to the media. You know, once they get the
stiff of a story, a co hard and there was
some obviously issues involved in the camp and that's all
come to a hit and one thing about Captain Kirk David,
a player of mine, you know, been into the high
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roads of the business leadership and so forth, and they
make a decision, you know, heast swift run right on
to it. So I guess that's a positive thing, not
delely dowing around like we had in the past. And
we've got a book that supports the issues at hand
and faced them in reality and made decisions. So the
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incoming coaches, who that they may be, I think we've
all got a pretty good hit around here. It will
possibly be just to make sure they've got that culture
right in the team, because it seems from a distance
that they are very disjointed at the stage.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Do we do need don't we, as Sir Brian Lahore type,
don't we somebody get rid of the ego? You know,
there's there's comments, you know, there was I thought a
very good article from Gregor Paul in the Herald today
where it talked about somebody, you know, somebody referred to
Ras Robins Robertson's self presence and elevated self and we
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need somebody with their feet right on the ground here.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So who are you hearing? And do they fit that mold?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well? I think you've just got to look at what's
out If we don't forget the seat in the small
less in motion, there's people already signed contracts coaches, so
but we certainly have some high profile people out there.
Obviously Jamie Joseph is the one that spreends to mind
and his good mate and Tony Browns, who's tied up
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at the moment with South Africa. But look, let's just
see what happens. I mean, Jamie Joseph has contracted already
to be injured are so there's no issues in any
contracts that may be changed. We've got older SCHMIDI who've
got a lot of time for out there. But this
contract roll on to July, I think, and of course
Dave for any All men have created their own sort
of legacy in some ways, but Jamie Joseph, certainly with
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the Nates down to Earth, I played against him, no
nonsense sort of player. I think he brings a lot
of tradition and that sort of playing to order. We're
all in it together. This is how we attack, this
is how we're interest, how we're going to play it.
I'll have some buy in, but in the end, I'm
the coach and with my assistants will be making decisions
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and hopefully you players will be patrolling those publications.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, I think the sole problem with his latest outfit
is they didn't have any idea who was really running
the ship and what they wanted. David Kirk and he's
got the role now, but I mean, you know, he
must have had the old bit of intestinal fortitude and
you know Cahunas of steel when he was a young
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guy charged with leading you lot in eighty seven. Because
there's some pretty strong personalities in that eighty seven side, right,
So he doesn't muck around, does he.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, Well, like Buck Shawn, my brother, you've got Fox.
I mean, one thing I think you could allude to
is there were a lot of captains in that side
who have keptain their propixs and had the leadership qualities.
So here have a lot of experience to draw on.
I know Andy Dldle was injured early and became sort
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of like a Trepens captain and David got the nod.
But there was a lot of buying. I mean there
were now where he goes. I mean it was quite
exciting time. It was the first time in an augur
World Cup. So we just got on with the job
and realized that it was a bloody good team. So
you just did your job and yeah, and everything just
fell into place. So he's very grounded, very pragmatic as David,
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as I said before, he has a history in business
and leadership. And one thing I like about it is
if there's a problem. You saw it, you don't set
on it. Come back to it in six months time
when you're touring Africa and find that the ship's at
the fan and you make a decision under a year out. Well,
they've just taken the ball by the horns, looked at
the internal issues and said look it's not working. We
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need to make a decision. They made it, They've backed
themselves and now they're on a different path.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
There that is aj went in nineteen eighty seven Rugby
World Cup winning flankers scored.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And all but one game. I remember you remember here, cut.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
On your j uh backing David Cook to get on
and do the job.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
This is the country