June 16, 2026 • 5 mins
The PM ponders Fieldays, "friendly fire" from Winston and whether wilding pines should attract carbon credits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon on a Wednesday kicks off the
country right. Field Day's debrief time a great turnout of
NAT's Prime minister. But is Mystery Creek still your turf
by rights?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, it's not. I mean in a political sense. Well,
I haven't really been hung up on that. I've been
really focused on making sure how we fire up their
culture sector. And you know they previously had a government
that went to war with them. I ran into a
number of farmers. They said they couldn't go to the
pub and actually say were confidence that they were farmers
in the old days and they know they feel great
pride to do so. So I want them to know
they deeply loved, respected and more. And importantly, they've got
(00:36):
a government working with them, trying to get well intoon
out of farming, backing them and getting the conditions for
growth so they can get out and do well. And
they certainly are doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Okay, could friendly fire I winstant lb and grenades be
your biggest threat in the election because he was lobbing
a few grenades at field Days, Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I wasn't there to hear them, but you know again,
you know it with him and just Cindra are doing
the end of the and yes exploration which puts mass
of pressure in our country. It was him and Shane
Jones wanting to plant a billion trees and do farmed
to forestry conversions. It's Frankly Winston that doesn't support a
China FDA, let alone an Indian FTA. So I'm not
too worried about that. I'm more focused on I just
(01:16):
believe let's do the right things. Let's focus on what
our farmers need us to be focused on as government,
which is get out of farming. We'll get willings out
of farming, Simplify the regulations, open up opportunities overseas, get
our products, produce, increase and produce more and get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I got an email late last night from a guy
by the name of John in South Canterbury. I won't
say his second name, but he said, and this is
a fair question. I suspect I know your answer, But
he said, Jamie, a question for the Prime Minister. Why
do they persist with a mindless Ets and Paris Climate
agreement when good agricultural land is being planted with pine
(01:51):
trees for carbon credits, but seventy nine million has to
be allocated for the eradication of wilding pines to recover
good agricoltural land. I'm sure we can all see the
irony and that he goes on to say wilding pines
also sequest a carbon, but credits are not allocated as
is the case with millions of hectares of Fiordland forest
(02:13):
and National Park forestry throughout New Zealand due to the
political hypocrisy. How do you expect voters to pay carbon
tax on fuel due to the ETS and vote for
this stupidity. Now I know what your answer will be,
but give it to me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, I just think you know first of almost the
two separate issues. We can talk about Paris and we
can talk about etes, we can talk about wilding pines.
Wilding pines are an environmental disaster. I met with a
gentleman from South Marlborough who'd been working on a sessue
for forty three year. The first raised it will Rob
Muldoon back in the early eighties. They are an environmental disaster.
They threatened productive farmland with the sensitive water supplies, the
(02:50):
impact the Biodiversity's got a massive risk of wildfires. There's
more than two million hectares across the country affected by them.
Left untreated, they sort of expand about five percenty year,
and that's about almost four billion dollars of economic threat
over fifty years. So you know, they're a real economic
and environmental reason for why we need to do something
about that, and that's why we've increased funding two and
a half times and then working with in partnership with councils,
(03:12):
farmers and owners and to work our way through that.
With respect to Paris, I mean, and what we're trying
to do there, I mean, as I've said to you before,
you know, it's in our interests, our economic interests, our
national interests to remain in Paris at this time. We
compete with other countries that want to take us down.
Large multi nationals want would love nothing if we came
(03:33):
out of Paris to throw our products off shelf. That
would just punish our farmers and make all Kiwis poor
us so, and we want agriculture increasing production and our
economy growing. So it's not you know, and it's not
Paris ranking that hurt farmers. There was labor that hurt farmers,
and we to war farmers back in the past. So
from But equally, we are working in our Paris commitments.
(03:55):
We're committed to the net zero twenty fifty goals, which
are the domestic goals we've committed to. We're going to
give the twenty thirty ago. But I've seen some reports.
I want to reassure everyone We're not sending billions of
dollars in jobs offshore like the last lot had proposed.
That's just not going to happen. We're not going to
make New Zealand's poorer by taking money out of this
country and sending it out to someone overseas for something else.
(04:16):
So we're not doing that. YEA so different approach.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, Look, and I know the other issue was these
wilding pines are a massive seed source. But John does
raise a good point. Why aren't we getting carbon credits
for said wilding pines and all the native bush and
forestry and the likes of the Fieldland National Park yep.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But the way, yeah, I mean, I hear the point
that just that the way the way the climate baselines
have been constructed from pre nineteen ninety or whatever it was,
is that how that's calculated. But the wilding pines in
themselves are a problem and farmers want us to do
something about that. We've listened to farmers. It was one
of the arts I think from the Federated Farmers as well,
(04:59):
as they thought about what a government could do to
help the sector. And that's what we're doing as a government,
all right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Christopher Luxan, good to catch up with you at field
Day's wonderful fundraiser for the Rural Support Trusty.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Thanks, thanks for what you have you eaten?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The have you eaten the marmite sandwich in the apple.
I went to a lot of difficulty to make that
marmte sandwich, I might say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
For your view for your listeners. I get up on
stage and I was very nice to Jamie. Actually I
just I did say how Rowena had been a very
big help turn over the years. But and he presented
me with that marmte sandwich and an apple and said
just at the beginning of the event. So now I
had it in the car mate on the way home,
which was lovely. So it was very nice.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, I'm glad it didn't go to waste twice not
what not? Prime Minister, thanks for your time
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So take care bybe
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon on a Wednesday kicks off the
country right. Field Day's debrief time a great turnout of
NAT's Prime minister. But is Mystery Creek still your turf
by rights?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, it's not. I mean in a political sense. Well,
I haven't really been hung up on that. I've been
really focused on making sure how we fire up their
culture sector. And you know they previously had a government
that went to war with them. I ran into a
number of farmers. They said they couldn't go to the
pub and actually say were confidence that they were farmers
in the old days and they know they feel great
pride to do so. So I want them to know
they deeply loved, respected and more. And importantly, they've got
(00:36):
a government working with them, trying to get well intoon
out of farming, backing them and getting the conditions for
growth so they can get out and do well. And
they certainly are doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Okay, could friendly fire I winstant lb and grenades be
your biggest threat in the election because he was lobbing
a few grenades at field Days, Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I wasn't there to hear them, but you know again,
you know it with him and just Cindra are doing
the end of the and yes exploration which puts mass
of pressure in our country. It was him and Shane
Jones wanting to plant a billion trees and do farmed
to forestry conversions. It's Frankly Winston that doesn't support a
China FDA, let alone an Indian FTA. So I'm not
too worried about that. I'm more focused on I just
(01:16):
believe let's do the right things. Let's focus on what
our farmers need us to be focused on as government,
which is get out of farming. We'll get willings out
of farming, Simplify the regulations, open up opportunities overseas, get
our products, produce, increase and produce more and get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I got an email late last night from a guy
by the name of John in South Canterbury. I won't
say his second name, but he said, and this is
a fair question. I suspect I know your answer, But
he said, Jamie, a question for the Prime Minister. Why
do they persist with a mindless Ets and Paris Climate
agreement when good agricultural land is being planted with pine
(01:51):
trees for carbon credits, but seventy nine million has to
be allocated for the eradication of wilding pines to recover
good agricoltural land. I'm sure we can all see the
irony and that he goes on to say wilding pines
also sequest a carbon, but credits are not allocated as
is the case with millions of hectares of Fiordland forest
(02:13):
and National Park forestry throughout New Zealand due to the
political hypocrisy. How do you expect voters to pay carbon
tax on fuel due to the ETS and vote for
this stupidity. Now I know what your answer will be,
but give it to me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, I just think you know first of almost the
two separate issues. We can talk about Paris and we
can talk about etes, we can talk about wilding pines.
Wilding pines are an environmental disaster. I met with a
gentleman from South Marlborough who'd been working on a sessue
for forty three year. The first raised it will Rob
Muldoon back in the early eighties. They are an environmental disaster.
They threatened productive farmland with the sensitive water supplies, the
(02:50):
impact the Biodiversity's got a massive risk of wildfires. There's
more than two million hectares across the country affected by them.
Left untreated, they sort of expand about five percenty year,
and that's about almost four billion dollars of economic threat
over fifty years. So you know, they're a real economic
and environmental reason for why we need to do something
about that, and that's why we've increased funding two and
a half times and then working with in partnership with councils,
(03:12):
farmers and owners and to work our way through that.
With respect to Paris, I mean, and what we're trying
to do there, I mean, as I've said to you before,
you know, it's in our interests, our economic interests, our
national interests to remain in Paris at this time. We
compete with other countries that want to take us down.
Large multi nationals want would love nothing if we came
(03:33):
out of Paris to throw our products off shelf. That
would just punish our farmers and make all Kiwis poor
us so, and we want agriculture increasing production and our
economy growing. So it's not you know, and it's not
Paris ranking that hurt farmers. There was labor that hurt farmers,
and we to war farmers back in the past. So
from But equally, we are working in our Paris commitments.
(03:55):
We're committed to the net zero twenty fifty goals, which
are the domestic goals we've committed to. We're going to
give the twenty thirty ago. But I've seen some reports.
I want to reassure everyone We're not sending billions of
dollars in jobs offshore like the last lot had proposed.
That's just not going to happen. We're not going to
make New Zealand's poorer by taking money out of this
country and sending it out to someone overseas for something else.
(04:16):
So we're not doing that. YEA so different approach.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, Look, and I know the other issue was these
wilding pines are a massive seed source. But John does
raise a good point. Why aren't we getting carbon credits
for said wilding pines and all the native bush and
forestry and the likes of the Fieldland National Park yep.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But the way, yeah, I mean, I hear the point
that just that the way the way the climate baselines
have been constructed from pre nineteen ninety or whatever it was,
is that how that's calculated. But the wilding pines in
themselves are a problem and farmers want us to do
something about that. We've listened to farmers. It was one
of the arts I think from the Federated Farmers as well,
(04:59):
as they thought about what a government could do to
help the sector. And that's what we're doing as a government,
all right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Christopher Luxan, good to catch up with you at field
Day's wonderful fundraiser for the Rural Support Trusty.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Thanks, thanks for what you have you eaten?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The have you eaten the marmite sandwich in the apple.
I went to a lot of difficulty to make that
marmte sandwich, I might say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
For your view for your listeners. I get up on
stage and I was very nice to Jamie. Actually I
just I did say how Rowena had been a very
big help turn over the years. But and he presented
me with that marmte sandwich and an apple and said
just at the beginning of the event. So now I
had it in the car mate on the way home,
which was lovely. So it was very nice.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, I'm glad it didn't go to waste twice not
what not? Prime Minister, thanks for your time
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So take care bybe
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