April 22, 2026 • 12 mins
Labour supports the Indian FTA, but a fired-up NZ First leader says it’s an “utter unmitigated disaster of an agreement for NZ’s future”. Has it cost him farmer votes? Will he confirm he will not go into coalition with Labour? After calling them “woke self-confessed communists who would turn our country into a basket case. No, we won’t do a deal with Labour or their Marxist and separatist mates”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's welcome on to the country. New Zealand first leader
former Deputy Prime Minister would be Prime Minister. Winston Peters
and Winston Labor announced this morning that they would support
the Indian FTA. And do you know what I say,
good on your chippy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What do you say, Well, that's what you end up
with when you've got a globalist in Jean's parliament. They're
not nationalist, they're not after our national interest and some
of the parts of the steel are just really appalling
for our long term future. These members of Parliament will
be gone by them. But when we're all paying the
cost of it, that's the real issue here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I talk to a lot of farmers obviously in this job,
and I know that you're after the farming vote, and
a lot of farmers like what you and Shane talk
about because you're pretty direct and upfront and you're good
supporters of farming. But I'll put this to you, I
think you're going to lose some farmer vote because of
your stance on the Indian FTA.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, I think you're a hundercent wrong. When I the
farmers what it all means, they'll be thinking otherwise. That's
the point they've not been given the information. How do
you know, for example, what the Australian meat industry or
sheep industry sales in to India is? Do you know
what the pathetic record is? That's the one that lots
in the same going to be fantastic for New Zealand.
What if Australia's record is pathetic, why would we be
(01:18):
any better? It's all these fine details which people are
entitled to know and they're not being told them. And
then if you ask the farming community, how are we
going to go around provincial New Zealand when thirty five
burns being stucked out of our economy? Poor? This deal
in fifteen years out the thick next fifteen years and
if we don't pupill this commitment then there's going to
be a clawback And what CONCESSU would you do? Woah?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hang on? Why whoa whoa whoa wah. Isn't the thirty
three billion or thirty four billion whatever it translates translates
to because I think it's twenty billion US dollars? Isn't
that only an aspirational number?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, you are sounding so damn naive for an
experienced guy an aspirational number, what was then as racial number.
Why they've got a monitoring committee set up by the
officials in India, and why I've got Goya stating that
if it's not meant, there'll be a clawback. He said
that in person. He said it a quote the quotess
right out there now is Goyel telling lies here? No
(02:14):
he's not. He's saying exactly what I'm saying about this,
and you're staying here, Oh, it's only aspirational. They don't
sign up to aspirational things in this business. They sign
up on the dotted line. They expect because conditions to
be met. That's the nature of for free trade deals.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
While I am quoting, I think from Todd mcclough said,
the Indian High High Commission at to Zealand stated publicly
that this figure that has been mentioned is aspirational. That
in Parliament yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right, another record here of her writing to me
apologizing for what she said and speaking out of turn.
I hold that in my office. You see the difference here.
She knew that she spoke out at the moment I
challenged her on that because I thought you cannot be
saying that, because it's not true, she apologized to me.
Wasn't that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
With the market of one point four billion and counting.
Surely New Zealand companies, especially in New Zealand primary sector companies,
want to be in boots and all in India anyhow,
why wouldn't they invest that sort of money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Look, excuse me, of course they do. It's in nicolas.
We are for a free trade deal with India. But
this is not a free trade deal. This is a
manual immigration deal, an investment deal where India is getting
all the winning points here and here we are a
small economy against this huge economy and they've won the
devil's hands down. And that's all in the conditions. And
you're not being told that when you'd be asked about
(03:34):
the New Zealand thirty five billion out of ex fifteen
years it is claimed to be aspirational. Well why would
you have, as has been pointed out by many journalists, Now,
why would you have monitoring conditions of something's only aspirational?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh have if this is If this is such a
bad deal, why is the opposition supporting it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Because because the their party is not smart, it's not clever.
I mean they signed up to the European Trade Deal.
You member europe Union. We knew there was a shocking deal,
but they signed up because the simba to sign up there.
While she was there, she wanted some ticks on the board.
She wanted to do what LUXN is doing. Make a promise.
Doesn't the country helps the country if it helps their
own persona. That's what they're done.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Aren't you rewriting history here? I know you hate free
trade agreements, but the one with China's been very good
for us. The one for the EU. Hang on the one,
the one for the E the one for the EU
and the UK have been good for us.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No stop now when you say free traded deals where
I hate free fare doors, that's rubbish. What I said
about the Chinese deal's circuit two thousand and eight when
Helen Clark signed up to it was why are we
being regarded as a developed nation up against a huge
population and economy that's calling itself a developed pinion nation
and where the running benef It's mature to us? After
(04:49):
fourteen long years after that, I said we can do better.
I wasn't opposed to deal. I said we could do better,
And here we go again. While these people are selling
out the new viewed population on their own personal an
Abandieseman and know in personal reputation, they'll be long gone
when you discover how badness is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well you and I were, you more likely than me,
will be long gone. So why are you worrying about it?
That's actually a rather facetious and cheeky comment. I'll take
that one. I'll take that one back because it's ageist
and not fear. Look, let's talk about something that we
can agree on, because I could talk to you till
one o'clock and you're not going to change your mind. Okay,
(05:26):
so you've confirmed you will not go into coalition with Labor.
I'm pleased to hear that you called Labor woke, self
confessed communists who would turn our country into a basket case. No,
we won't do a deal with Labor or their Marxist
and separatist mates. That's a reference obviously to the Greens
(05:47):
and to party Marry and I say, it's about time
that you've confirmed this. So well done.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't talk rubbish. You know that i'd made that
statement four years ago. No, the statement no, no, no, no,
made those same sentiments known four years ago and a
year before the twenty twenty three election. So stop going
along with this stupid talk about news your first, this
and this and this. For goodness sake, the National Party
has been with the Maray Party more times, has been
with us. The National Party has chosen to party Murray
(06:15):
more time. They chose mes your first and you like
that for the honest truth.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So there's only one way you can be in government
after November the seventh, and that is to be in
a coalition with National and perhaps ACT. What's your point, Oh,
I'm just I'm wanting you to say yes.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh look, I'm not saying yes to non potential stupid
treatments like that. Grow up for going to say no, no,
I have.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What's so nonsensical about it? If you're not going with
Labor to party marry in the Greens, it only leaves
you one option to be in government. What's so stupid
about that?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Because that's actually matic, that's a given. So why do
you think it's a point. Why are you wasting your
listener's time. They want to know about the pitual prices.
They want to know about the Frizey price. They want
about the cost of living, they want to know investment,
a better investment on the farm. That's the real issues. Aware,
Burger's none while all the snots is going on, but
people are speculating about what's not going well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The thing is for people who vote for New Zealand First,
they're guaranteed. Right now as you've confirmed that a vote
for New Zealand First will not be a vote for
a center left government, we can confirm that. Let's move
on to what did you write?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Why did you feel you have to say that again?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, because you've you've flip flopped in twenty seventeen, threw
Bil Enguish under the bus.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Don't lie. I didn't flip flop. Who ruled out Winston Peters?
Well before the twenty seven election you heard John Key
doing it over and over again. What's building the staid?
They're all that ruled out mwzeem first and Winston Peters.
You know that, And then you say that I flip flop.
What promise did I not keep? Unlike the rest, I've
never done a deal with anybody near the part of
the party before the election, and the way the others
(07:46):
always have that's the part you can't stand our independence?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Can I talk about your war of words between your
future coalition partner ongoing coalition partner Christopher Luxon and his
Finance minister Nichola Willis and the Trade Minister Todd maclay.
The gloves were off.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, look, it's not a war of words. I was
asked about Luxon's putting the question of the leadership of
the National Party on the agenda without telling the humans first,
because we're a Conisian partner and in the now surprises
provision of the electoral of the idgrim we have, we
should have been told. And my only comment was I
thought it was a very unwise move because it's going
(08:26):
to be repeated over and over again. Now, funny enough, Noly,
there's ever done that in any time in any place
I'm in the around the world democracy. I know this
is the first time I've ever seen it happening. So
here are I coming from experience, say I don't know
why on earth you do that? And then everybody's dancing
around saying, well, why are you asking the other why
are you standing in the eys. Well, it wasn't obvious
to you when I said it. It wasn't obvious to
(08:47):
others when I said that this is unparalleled. And now
you've got all sorts of Jermans coming out and saying, actually,
Winston Peters is right. Wait till our expose come next,
and then look, look and see what happens. What I'm
saying to you is some of us can see around
the next corn, the next corn, the next onner in Polis,
and most don't.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I want to finish with my favorite farming province, Southland.
A couple of stories out of there are the fact
that there's a proposal out there, and I know Shane Jones,
the Minister of digging it up and damming it up's
very keen to support this and fast track it. Digging
up the lignite and making it into urea one point,
just off the top of my head, one point five
(09:25):
million tons per annum. This sounds like a great idea
as long as the environmental and carbon footprint isn't too big.
I take it you totally support.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This, Yes, we do, because it's our future, you know.
I mean, the reality is New Zealanders because of its
character and yeah, certain features. Many of his assets are
being denied the people, because of people sitting in the
leaf suburbs, Greenlift suburbs, of Auckland and Winnington in Parliament,
stomping on the rights of provincial people to clime time,
(09:55):
make progress. Yes, I most proundly do agree with it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Finally, you've just announced or Jason Herrick, president of Federated
Farmers in Southland, has just announced his candidacy. I know
Jason reasonably well. He can be a bit of a
controversial figure, but he kind of fits the New Zealand mold.
New Zealand First mold.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What a judgmental person you are.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
No, I'm not. I'm just passing commentary.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He was verted Advocate of the Year at the Federated
Farmer's AGM last year. This guy's got some serious talent.
He's got experience and that's that's what we need, real
world experience, straight talking, that's what we stand for. You'll
be great. Has been coming to you in zeal person
represent in the Southern Land Farming in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Since we've last chatted, you've announced Tane Randall and Tookie
Tookie as a New Zealand First candidate. When are you
announcing Stuart Nash for Napier?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You done?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
When are you announcing Stuart Nash as your candidate for Napier.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I don't know why you don't understand that we have
a machine in New Zealand called New Zealand's First Party.
He decides all those questions as through as candidate's not.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Come on once we know it's a tactitis show what we're.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And what we're not going to do here is unlike you. No,
I tell you what dictatorship is. Dictatorship people say if
I don't get my way, I'm going to resign. Now
that's what a dictatorship has every hurting me say that.
No other Purple Parties have said that. Other PITLI leaders
have said that, and other finances has said that those
are the facts and that you know it's cost us
enormously as a consequence. That's why we're getting out credit
(11:29):
done rating at the spirit time when I'm talking out
credit writing in the country's being categorated. Was it avoidable?
Of course it was, while.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Your credit writing could be falling. If you don't answer
my question about Stuart Nash.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, I'm not answering your question, becaus not for me
to answers the party machine decides that, not me, for
the under team, for the umpty time my party. You'll
you'll know this is wrongly strange for you. But my
part happens to be run on democratic lines. It's run
on democratic lines with the people get to be the masters,
not to pee at the top. He said, difference, Yes
(12:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm completely wrong. I fall on my sword. Winstant You're
right on everything apart from the Indian Free Trade Agreement.
Great time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'll tell you what you're going to rude the day.
One of these days, I hope you're still alive and
you start seeing a bit lap real fast, when you'll
see what a disasters and all. Meanwhile these flakes will
have war, moved on and gone somewhere else. I'm making
a stand for this country and that's why we are
proud to call ourselves and we are the only nationalist
party in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And you put and you put New Zealand first. Gin
I'm going to send you a bill for this. This
is like an advertising campaign. Hey, thanks very much for
your time. Always some appreciate a bit of banter.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I enjoyed it. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
There we go, Winston Peters, who
Let's welcome on to the country. New Zealand first leader
former Deputy Prime Minister would be Prime Minister. Winston Peters
and Winston Labor announced this morning that they would support
the Indian FTA. And do you know what I say,
good on your chippy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What do you say, Well, that's what you end up
with when you've got a globalist in Jean's parliament. They're
not nationalist, they're not after our national interest and some
of the parts of the steel are just really appalling
for our long term future. These members of Parliament will
be gone by them. But when we're all paying the
cost of it, that's the real issue here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I talk to a lot of farmers obviously in this job,
and I know that you're after the farming vote, and
a lot of farmers like what you and Shane talk
about because you're pretty direct and upfront and you're good
supporters of farming. But I'll put this to you, I
think you're going to lose some farmer vote because of
your stance on the Indian FTA.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, I think you're a hundercent wrong. When I the
farmers what it all means, they'll be thinking otherwise. That's
the point they've not been given the information. How do
you know, for example, what the Australian meat industry or
sheep industry sales in to India is? Do you know
what the pathetic record is? That's the one that lots
in the same going to be fantastic for New Zealand.
What if Australia's record is pathetic, why would we be
(01:18):
any better? It's all these fine details which people are
entitled to know and they're not being told them. And
then if you ask the farming community, how are we
going to go around provincial New Zealand when thirty five
burns being stucked out of our economy? Poor? This deal
in fifteen years out the thick next fifteen years and
if we don't pupill this commitment then there's going to
be a clawback And what CONCESSU would you do? Woah?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hang on? Why whoa whoa whoa wah. Isn't the thirty
three billion or thirty four billion whatever it translates translates
to because I think it's twenty billion US dollars? Isn't
that only an aspirational number?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, you are sounding so damn naive for an
experienced guy an aspirational number, what was then as racial number.
Why they've got a monitoring committee set up by the
officials in India, and why I've got Goya stating that
if it's not meant, there'll be a clawback. He said
that in person. He said it a quote the quotess
right out there now is Goyel telling lies here? No
(02:14):
he's not. He's saying exactly what I'm saying about this,
and you're staying here, Oh, it's only aspirational. They don't
sign up to aspirational things in this business. They sign
up on the dotted line. They expect because conditions to
be met. That's the nature of for free trade deals.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
While I am quoting, I think from Todd mcclough said,
the Indian High High Commission at to Zealand stated publicly
that this figure that has been mentioned is aspirational. That
in Parliament yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right, another record here of her writing to me
apologizing for what she said and speaking out of turn.
I hold that in my office. You see the difference here.
She knew that she spoke out at the moment I
challenged her on that because I thought you cannot be
saying that, because it's not true, she apologized to me.
Wasn't that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
With the market of one point four billion and counting.
Surely New Zealand companies, especially in New Zealand primary sector companies,
want to be in boots and all in India anyhow,
why wouldn't they invest that sort of money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Look, excuse me, of course they do. It's in nicolas.
We are for a free trade deal with India. But
this is not a free trade deal. This is a
manual immigration deal, an investment deal where India is getting
all the winning points here and here we are a
small economy against this huge economy and they've won the
devil's hands down. And that's all in the conditions. And
you're not being told that when you'd be asked about
(03:34):
the New Zealand thirty five billion out of ex fifteen
years it is claimed to be aspirational. Well why would
you have, as has been pointed out by many journalists, Now,
why would you have monitoring conditions of something's only aspirational?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh have if this is If this is such a
bad deal, why is the opposition supporting it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Because because the their party is not smart, it's not clever.
I mean they signed up to the European Trade Deal.
You member europe Union. We knew there was a shocking deal,
but they signed up because the simba to sign up there.
While she was there, she wanted some ticks on the board.
She wanted to do what LUXN is doing. Make a promise.
Doesn't the country helps the country if it helps their
own persona. That's what they're done.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Aren't you rewriting history here? I know you hate free
trade agreements, but the one with China's been very good
for us. The one for the EU. Hang on the one,
the one for the E the one for the EU
and the UK have been good for us.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No stop now when you say free traded deals where
I hate free fare doors, that's rubbish. What I said
about the Chinese deal's circuit two thousand and eight when
Helen Clark signed up to it was why are we
being regarded as a developed nation up against a huge
population and economy that's calling itself a developed pinion nation
and where the running benef It's mature to us? After
(04:49):
fourteen long years after that, I said we can do better.
I wasn't opposed to deal. I said we could do better,
And here we go again. While these people are selling
out the new viewed population on their own personal an
Abandieseman and know in personal reputation, they'll be long gone
when you discover how badness is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well you and I were, you more likely than me,
will be long gone. So why are you worrying about it?
That's actually a rather facetious and cheeky comment. I'll take
that one. I'll take that one back because it's ageist
and not fear. Look, let's talk about something that we
can agree on, because I could talk to you till
one o'clock and you're not going to change your mind. Okay,
(05:26):
so you've confirmed you will not go into coalition with Labor.
I'm pleased to hear that you called Labor woke, self
confessed communists who would turn our country into a basket case. No,
we won't do a deal with Labor or their Marxist
and separatist mates. That's a reference obviously to the Greens
(05:47):
and to party Marry and I say, it's about time
that you've confirmed this. So well done.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't talk rubbish. You know that i'd made that
statement four years ago. No, the statement no, no, no, no,
made those same sentiments known four years ago and a
year before the twenty twenty three election. So stop going
along with this stupid talk about news your first, this
and this and this. For goodness sake, the National Party
has been with the Maray Party more times, has been
with us. The National Party has chosen to party Murray
(06:15):
more time. They chose mes your first and you like
that for the honest truth.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So there's only one way you can be in government
after November the seventh, and that is to be in
a coalition with National and perhaps ACT. What's your point, Oh,
I'm just I'm wanting you to say yes.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh look, I'm not saying yes to non potential stupid
treatments like that. Grow up for going to say no, no,
I have.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What's so nonsensical about it? If you're not going with
Labor to party marry in the Greens, it only leaves
you one option to be in government. What's so stupid
about that?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Because that's actually matic, that's a given. So why do
you think it's a point. Why are you wasting your
listener's time. They want to know about the pitual prices.
They want to know about the Frizey price. They want
about the cost of living, they want to know investment,
a better investment on the farm. That's the real issues. Aware,
Burger's none while all the snots is going on, but
people are speculating about what's not going well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The thing is for people who vote for New Zealand First,
they're guaranteed. Right now as you've confirmed that a vote
for New Zealand First will not be a vote for
a center left government, we can confirm that. Let's move
on to what did you write?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Why did you feel you have to say that again?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, because you've you've flip flopped in twenty seventeen, threw
Bil Enguish under the bus.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Don't lie. I didn't flip flop. Who ruled out Winston Peters?
Well before the twenty seven election you heard John Key
doing it over and over again. What's building the staid?
They're all that ruled out mwzeem first and Winston Peters.
You know that, And then you say that I flip flop.
What promise did I not keep? Unlike the rest, I've
never done a deal with anybody near the part of
the party before the election, and the way the others
(07:46):
always have that's the part you can't stand our independence?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Can I talk about your war of words between your
future coalition partner ongoing coalition partner Christopher Luxon and his
Finance minister Nichola Willis and the Trade Minister Todd maclay.
The gloves were off.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, look, it's not a war of words. I was
asked about Luxon's putting the question of the leadership of
the National Party on the agenda without telling the humans first,
because we're a Conisian partner and in the now surprises
provision of the electoral of the idgrim we have, we
should have been told. And my only comment was I
thought it was a very unwise move because it's going
(08:26):
to be repeated over and over again. Now, funny enough, Noly,
there's ever done that in any time in any place
I'm in the around the world democracy. I know this
is the first time I've ever seen it happening. So
here are I coming from experience, say I don't know
why on earth you do that? And then everybody's dancing
around saying, well, why are you asking the other why
are you standing in the eys. Well, it wasn't obvious
to you when I said it. It wasn't obvious to
(08:47):
others when I said that this is unparalleled. And now
you've got all sorts of Jermans coming out and saying, actually,
Winston Peters is right. Wait till our expose come next,
and then look, look and see what happens. What I'm
saying to you is some of us can see around
the next corn, the next corn, the next onner in Polis,
and most don't.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I want to finish with my favorite farming province, Southland.
A couple of stories out of there are the fact
that there's a proposal out there, and I know Shane Jones,
the Minister of digging it up and damming it up's
very keen to support this and fast track it. Digging
up the lignite and making it into urea one point,
just off the top of my head, one point five
(09:25):
million tons per annum. This sounds like a great idea
as long as the environmental and carbon footprint isn't too big.
I take it you totally support.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This, Yes, we do, because it's our future, you know.
I mean, the reality is New Zealanders because of its
character and yeah, certain features. Many of his assets are
being denied the people, because of people sitting in the
leaf suburbs, Greenlift suburbs, of Auckland and Winnington in Parliament,
stomping on the rights of provincial people to clime time,
(09:55):
make progress. Yes, I most proundly do agree with it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Finally, you've just announced or Jason Herrick, president of Federated
Farmers in Southland, has just announced his candidacy. I know
Jason reasonably well. He can be a bit of a
controversial figure, but he kind of fits the New Zealand mold.
New Zealand First mold.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What a judgmental person you are.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
No, I'm not. I'm just passing commentary.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He was verted Advocate of the Year at the Federated
Farmer's AGM last year. This guy's got some serious talent.
He's got experience and that's that's what we need, real
world experience, straight talking, that's what we stand for. You'll
be great. Has been coming to you in zeal person
represent in the Southern Land Farming in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Since we've last chatted, you've announced Tane Randall and Tookie
Tookie as a New Zealand First candidate. When are you
announcing Stuart Nash for Napier?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You done?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
When are you announcing Stuart Nash as your candidate for Napier.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I don't know why you don't understand that we have
a machine in New Zealand called New Zealand's First Party.
He decides all those questions as through as candidate's not.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Come on once we know it's a tactitis show what we're.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And what we're not going to do here is unlike you. No,
I tell you what dictatorship is. Dictatorship people say if
I don't get my way, I'm going to resign. Now
that's what a dictatorship has every hurting me say that.
No other Purple Parties have said that. Other PITLI leaders
have said that, and other finances has said that those
are the facts and that you know it's cost us
enormously as a consequence. That's why we're getting out credit
(11:29):
done rating at the spirit time when I'm talking out
credit writing in the country's being categorated. Was it avoidable?
Of course it was, while.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Your credit writing could be falling. If you don't answer
my question about Stuart Nash.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, I'm not answering your question, becaus not for me
to answers the party machine decides that, not me, for
the under team, for the umpty time my party. You'll
you'll know this is wrongly strange for you. But my
part happens to be run on democratic lines. It's run
on democratic lines with the people get to be the masters,
not to pee at the top. He said, difference, Yes
(12:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm completely wrong. I fall on my sword. Winstant You're
right on everything apart from the Indian Free Trade Agreement.
Great time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'll tell you what you're going to rude the day.
One of these days, I hope you're still alive and
you start seeing a bit lap real fast, when you'll
see what a disasters and all. Meanwhile these flakes will
have war, moved on and gone somewhere else. I'm making
a stand for this country and that's why we are
proud to call ourselves and we are the only nationalist
party in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And you put and you put New Zealand first. Gin
I'm going to send you a bill for this. This
is like an advertising campaign. Hey, thanks very much for
your time. Always some appreciate a bit of banter.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I enjoyed it. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
There we go, Winston Peters, who
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