May 22, 2025 • 8 mins
The Prince of the Provinces, the self-titled Matua Shane, comments on yesterday’s Budget, where a highlight was his baiting of the Greens over his spend-up on fossil fuel energy. But should he who has sinned cast the first stone?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Budget twenty twenty five, while the highlight for me, without
a doubt was some glorious baiting of the greens from
Martua Shane Jones, the prince of the province is Shane.
You had poor old Chloe fizzing at the bung.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Someone gave me a nineteen sixty nine bottle of mar
Week gold oil and I stood up and I invited
the greens to sniff it. And I said to Chloe figuratively,
it's not the roses. Wake up and smell the oil.
That's your near term, long term future.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And then you got stuck into a over wind powered
energy You said, we can match it with wind, but
we don't want your mung been pronoun version of wind.
Do you sit at home and make up these wei
one liners or do they come straight into your head?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, they're like a reservoir. They're like a sort of
sitting on a library shelf and subject to being alert enough,
I just packed them back off the shelf. But sometimes
I don't know where they come from. They just materialize
it. It always worked, but most times they get a giggle
and they can I help define you in a political market.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Mind, you did have moments of contrition. You talked about
the worst decision made in the history of our nation,
delivered by Jasinda Adirn, supported by Meghan I'm presuming that's
Meghan Woods and sadly acquiesced by the Goodmartua. And that's
when you banned the search for natural gas or banned
the industry basically.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, So that's why the two hundred million dollars that
we got and announced as a form of atonement for
that that wayward decision that I was wrapped up on.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, you've been involved in a few way with decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nothing Arrival said. Of course, there's the ongoing madness of
climate change. And I also said in the speech that
under the United Nations, we're allowed to exempt ourselves from
a lot of this climate change sort of reach because
we're a food producing nation and our political campaign next
year is going to be built all around that we
shouldn't even be paying anything for food producing out of
(02:09):
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I wouldn't argue with you there. Are you going
to stay? Are you in Winston going to campaign strongly
on getting out of Paris?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, the first thing we're going to do has going
seek a mandate from Kiwis because obviously other political parties
are very very nervous about the main parties about walking
away from Paris. But New Zealand first, we're not going
to stay in the position that we are. The extent
that we kick it on the backside and get rid
(02:38):
of it all together is going to depend on our
next electoral result. But we're not campaigning for the status quo.
We believe that the high tide has come and gone.
There's a report that was put out by an excellent
lady called Nicholas Shedbolt. Sadly she was elbowed out of
the Climate Commission by the Zealots over the last year
or two. We have a great deal of confidence in
(03:00):
that lady, academic from Messy University, and she's saying that
for short lived gases do we go at twenty four
percent or fourteen percent? New Zealand perss toying with the
idea of exempting the entirety of short short lived gases
for in terms of agriculture, What did you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Make of the key elements of the budget changes? To
key we say, and I'm thinking, if you're earning one
hundred and eighty grand, you don't need another five hundred
dollars per annum from the government. In fact, Shane, I
were to put the threshold much lower than that.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, well we're making you know, we're making what obviously
our steps to shrink the size of the entitlements that
the state offers to you and I as citizens. David
Seymour wants us to go a lot further. We have
to be respectful of Nikola. She's sort of taking a
more of an incremental approach. But we've got our budget
(03:53):
next year and there's another opportunity. As I see in
the budget speech, there's going to be more cuts and
there has to be because the state has ended up
elbowing the private sector out of the way and occupying
positions in your economy, our society where it doesn't belong.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, I did like the new investment boost tax credit
for businesses where you can can deduct twenty percent of
a new assets value and that is on top of
the annual depreciation. Mind you, Shane, it does remind me
of you, and you're of a similar generation to me.
Back in the day when I left university, a lot
of my young farmer mates were all buying hold and
(04:31):
utes and the reason they were doing it through the
farm is they would get a forty percent investment allowance
off the top and then they could depreciate it after
that cost them next to nothing. Are we going to
see any of that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, look, the eye idea will be watching anyone gaming
the system. But I'm hopeful that in my beloved fishing
and mining industry, not only we were first, certainly at fishing, sorry,
and mining if it's oil and gas, will have access
to the two hundred million, if they've got a decent
deal and they can expense at twenty percent capital investments,
(05:04):
and that's going to really turbocharge and quite frankly, it's
those kinds of investments and incentives. It's going to help
people to move more to capital efficiency and that's a
better response to coping with weather. This notion of climatism
closing down the economy, that's hoax politics.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Talking about climate change and making the planet a better place.
You're off to Marsden point. There's a rich irony in
this to open a solar farm.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, So at one level, I have to At one level,
I have to respect the fact that we own the
gent tailors fifty one percent. They're spending taxpayers resources and
the sense that it's partly a taxpayer owned company and
the private sector. But I do see an ongoing place
for Marsden Point importing diesel so they can run a
(05:54):
diesel peaker power station at Marsden Point and shrink the
cost of energy. But I've now that it's impossible to
rely on these gent tailors over time to give us
more secure energy and cheaper energy. They're in the short
term market and that keeps the prices high. And we're
about to get a major report over the next month
from some Aussie consultants, and then the government's going to
(06:16):
make a call as to what changes we make to
the energy markets. Now you know that Winstone Iri campaign
on major changes, including splitting up the gent tailors and
ensuring that there's a long term future for oil, coal
and gas to keep the lights on. I think that
I'm winning that debate.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Hey, I just want to finish with another one of
your one liners from the House yesterday and the budget debate.
A bit of Coalition advice. If you want for Labor,
you said this, I would say to Labor, I need
to give you speed dial relationship advice. And my advice
to mister Hipkins is You're going to have to kiss
a lot of frogs before you find the prince. Were
(06:59):
you referring to yourself? Were you offering your services to Chippy?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I did say I'm wearing a red tie to remind
you what could have been. No, I was saying to them,
you kiss the wrong frog, Chippy, and you yourself will croak.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well he's kissing a green frog.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, mate, that frog is actually a tadpole without leggs,
and it's distorted, misshapen, and sadly it's in the wrong
country because it doesn't believe. And kiwi's aspirring to be wealthy,
or kiwi's making their own children lunch to take to school.
They've fed this appetite and this toxic diet of not
(07:40):
only victimhood but dependability, and they are now depending and
becoming reliant on the state to an extent. We cannot
afford it to go back to the old values. You
have kids, you get off your mommal, your backside, and
you raise them. And if you are on the doll
and you are not prepared to work like other Kiwis,
then we're not going to pay you to maintain a
(08:00):
misshapen very dangerous lifestyle, well.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Spoken Marta Shane Jones, Prince of the Province's thanks as
always for your time on the country.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Take care of me.
Budget twenty twenty five, while the highlight for me, without
a doubt was some glorious baiting of the greens from
Martua Shane Jones, the prince of the province is Shane.
You had poor old Chloe fizzing at the bung.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Someone gave me a nineteen sixty nine bottle of mar
Week gold oil and I stood up and I invited
the greens to sniff it. And I said to Chloe figuratively,
it's not the roses. Wake up and smell the oil.
That's your near term, long term future.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And then you got stuck into a over wind powered
energy You said, we can match it with wind, but
we don't want your mung been pronoun version of wind.
Do you sit at home and make up these wei
one liners or do they come straight into your head?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, they're like a reservoir. They're like a sort of
sitting on a library shelf and subject to being alert enough,
I just packed them back off the shelf. But sometimes
I don't know where they come from. They just materialize
it. It always worked, but most times they get a giggle
and they can I help define you in a political market.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Mind, you did have moments of contrition. You talked about
the worst decision made in the history of our nation,
delivered by Jasinda Adirn, supported by Meghan I'm presuming that's
Meghan Woods and sadly acquiesced by the Goodmartua. And that's
when you banned the search for natural gas or banned
the industry basically.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, So that's why the two hundred million dollars that
we got and announced as a form of atonement for
that that wayward decision that I was wrapped up on.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, you've been involved in a few way with decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nothing Arrival said. Of course, there's the ongoing madness of
climate change. And I also said in the speech that
under the United Nations, we're allowed to exempt ourselves from
a lot of this climate change sort of reach because
we're a food producing nation and our political campaign next
year is going to be built all around that we
shouldn't even be paying anything for food producing out of
(02:09):
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I wouldn't argue with you there. Are you going
to stay? Are you in Winston going to campaign strongly
on getting out of Paris?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, the first thing we're going to do has going
seek a mandate from Kiwis because obviously other political parties
are very very nervous about the main parties about walking
away from Paris. But New Zealand first, we're not going
to stay in the position that we are. The extent
that we kick it on the backside and get rid
(02:38):
of it all together is going to depend on our
next electoral result. But we're not campaigning for the status quo.
We believe that the high tide has come and gone.
There's a report that was put out by an excellent
lady called Nicholas Shedbolt. Sadly she was elbowed out of
the Climate Commission by the Zealots over the last year
or two. We have a great deal of confidence in
(03:00):
that lady, academic from Messy University, and she's saying that
for short lived gases do we go at twenty four
percent or fourteen percent? New Zealand perss toying with the
idea of exempting the entirety of short short lived gases
for in terms of agriculture, What did you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Make of the key elements of the budget changes? To
key we say, and I'm thinking, if you're earning one
hundred and eighty grand, you don't need another five hundred
dollars per annum from the government. In fact, Shane, I
were to put the threshold much lower than that.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, well we're making you know, we're making what obviously
our steps to shrink the size of the entitlements that
the state offers to you and I as citizens. David
Seymour wants us to go a lot further. We have
to be respectful of Nikola. She's sort of taking a
more of an incremental approach. But we've got our budget
(03:53):
next year and there's another opportunity. As I see in
the budget speech, there's going to be more cuts and
there has to be because the state has ended up
elbowing the private sector out of the way and occupying
positions in your economy, our society where it doesn't belong.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, I did like the new investment boost tax credit
for businesses where you can can deduct twenty percent of
a new assets value and that is on top of
the annual depreciation. Mind you, Shane, it does remind me
of you, and you're of a similar generation to me.
Back in the day when I left university, a lot
of my young farmer mates were all buying hold and
(04:31):
utes and the reason they were doing it through the
farm is they would get a forty percent investment allowance
off the top and then they could depreciate it after
that cost them next to nothing. Are we going to
see any of that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, look, the eye idea will be watching anyone gaming
the system. But I'm hopeful that in my beloved fishing
and mining industry, not only we were first, certainly at fishing, sorry,
and mining if it's oil and gas, will have access
to the two hundred million, if they've got a decent
deal and they can expense at twenty percent capital investments,
(05:04):
and that's going to really turbocharge and quite frankly, it's
those kinds of investments and incentives. It's going to help
people to move more to capital efficiency and that's a
better response to coping with weather. This notion of climatism
closing down the economy, that's hoax politics.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Talking about climate change and making the planet a better place.
You're off to Marsden point. There's a rich irony in
this to open a solar farm.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, So at one level, I have to At one level,
I have to respect the fact that we own the
gent tailors fifty one percent. They're spending taxpayers resources and
the sense that it's partly a taxpayer owned company and
the private sector. But I do see an ongoing place
for Marsden Point importing diesel so they can run a
(05:54):
diesel peaker power station at Marsden Point and shrink the
cost of energy. But I've now that it's impossible to
rely on these gent tailors over time to give us
more secure energy and cheaper energy. They're in the short
term market and that keeps the prices high. And we're
about to get a major report over the next month
from some Aussie consultants, and then the government's going to
(06:16):
make a call as to what changes we make to
the energy markets. Now you know that Winstone Iri campaign
on major changes, including splitting up the gent tailors and
ensuring that there's a long term future for oil, coal
and gas to keep the lights on. I think that
I'm winning that debate.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Hey, I just want to finish with another one of
your one liners from the House yesterday and the budget debate.
A bit of Coalition advice. If you want for Labor,
you said this, I would say to Labor, I need
to give you speed dial relationship advice. And my advice
to mister Hipkins is You're going to have to kiss
a lot of frogs before you find the prince. Were
(06:59):
you referring to yourself? Were you offering your services to Chippy?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I did say I'm wearing a red tie to remind
you what could have been. No, I was saying to them,
you kiss the wrong frog, Chippy, and you yourself will croak.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well he's kissing a green frog.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, mate, that frog is actually a tadpole without leggs,
and it's distorted, misshapen, and sadly it's in the wrong
country because it doesn't believe. And kiwi's aspirring to be wealthy,
or kiwi's making their own children lunch to take to school.
They've fed this appetite and this toxic diet of not
(07:40):
only victimhood but dependability, and they are now depending and
becoming reliant on the state to an extent. We cannot
afford it to go back to the old values. You
have kids, you get off your mommal, your backside, and
you raise them. And if you are on the doll
and you are not prepared to work like other Kiwis,
then we're not going to pay you to maintain a
(08:00):
misshapen very dangerous lifestyle, well.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Spoken Marta Shane Jones, Prince of the Province's thanks as
always for your time on the country.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Take care of me.
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