The Country 28/11/25: Barry Soper talks to Jamie Mackay

Our political correspondent has a book coming out next year. But will he tell us where the bodies are buried?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
He ain't heavy. He's my brother. Well, he ain't heavy.
He's a fine and he's in fine shape for his age.
Barry Sober. He's not my brother, but he feels like
it is my cousin. Hey, Biz, thank you for taking time.
I know you've had a week off to finish your
book that's coming out next year. I hope you are
going to tell us where all the bodies are buried.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, it's actually more of a meander through all the
prime ministers that I've worked with, going back to Rob Muldoon,
and it's anecdotes about particular stories that they told me
I told them, so it's a bit of a yarn
all the way through.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Jamie. You may remember I think I've probably said to
you that one of my staff several years ago decided
to clean out the office and I had about four
thousand pages of columns that I'd written since before Roger Douglas,
and he cleaned out the office and destroyed a lot
of them. So it was I got off to a

(01:01):
very hard start because I had to then recall rather
than see you'll read the stuff in the columns.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, I can't wait, and I know I've asked you
this question before. Who's the best Prime minister? Correct me
if I'm wrong in your lifetime, you say, Helen Clark, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Not even going to tell you that. Come on, Barry
giving the secret away.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
All right, we'll have to wait for the book to
come out. Hey, thanks for taking time out on your
week off. Having a good weekend. Barry's sober there