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March 5, 2026 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Kieran McAnulty, Shane McManaway, Rowland Smith, Mavis Mullins, Sir David Fagan, and Hamish McKay.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
Gooday, New Zealand and Joe Welcome to the Country. Coming
to you today from the War Memorial Stadium in Masterton.
It is getting hot in here already. I can't even
think what it's going to be like tomorrow night. It is,
of course, the Golden Shares and the World Sharing Championships
and the wall Handlers and the blade sharers as well.

(00:50):
It's all happening on the show today. Local MP can't
be with us. Who will be here tomorrow night Local
Labor MP, longtime supporter of the Golden Shares, former bookie,
will get his take on who might win the big titles,
That is Karen macinolty. The other thing is we're all
waiting with bated breath for this latest taxpayer union poll

(01:11):
to come out. Is it as disastrous as we're led
to believe?

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Now? Shane mcmanaway, who's hosting.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Us up here, why a rapper farmer He was going
to come into the studio here live at the Memorial Hall,
but he said it would mean two hours off as
beloved diggers, So he's going to take a break from
that to talk to Sir David Fagan sharing legend. No
one will ever beat his sixteen open titles, but can
Roland Smith add to his eight and more importantly, can

(01:38):
Roland Smith capture a second world sharing title? That's what
he's after here talking about Sharing Royalty. Mavis Mullins, big
in the sharing world, big in the corporate world, Sharing
royalty from the Pie Why Mullins Dynasty. Rachel Sharer, what
a great name for the gm of wool four pgg Wrights.
And Hamish McKay mckaye on sport he's at the Fielding

(02:01):
Saie Yards and Hamish, believe it or not, competed at
junior levels and the New Zealand Sharing Champs, so he's
got a bit of cred there as well.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
And Rowena Dunk.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
You might hear a squawking in the background because as
we speak she is commentating the wool handling. But let's
go to a guy who will be here tomorrow night
and Karen macinnulty. I'm assuming it'll be quite a relief
just to be sitting in the seats and not having
to do the hard yards as the MC.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah, good day, Jamie, Thanks very much for having me on.
Look at the tremendous honor to be the MC of
the Golden Shaes.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
But it is quite nice in the last couple of
years just be sitting there and soaking it up because
you don't really get the chance to watch properly when
you're involved. And the thing that stands the Golden Chares
out is it's probably the only world class event of
this nature international event the solely reliant on volunteers that
are doing it just as well as any of the

(02:53):
paid professional events around the world.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
It is such a slick organization. Karen, how far back
do you go with the Golden Shares because you were
a wire rap a lad through and through.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
I was actually thinking about that earlier because I was
looking at the odds for both the World Championship and
the Golden Cheers and whenever I do that, I think
back to my days of being doing the odds for
the TAB and honestly, that's quite a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Now.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
I've been in Parliament for nine years and I was
at the TV for seven and I was doing the
Sharing for all.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Of that time pretty much.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
So goes back a long time and I actually cannot
remember a time where the odds have been so tight,
And the only time that did come to mind was
when David Fagan retired and that Golden Shares. After that time,

(03:49):
when Roland Smith was starting to come through as a
young fella, that was when I think the odds were
the closest, but they certainly weren't as tight as they
are this year.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
That's interesting that Lean Smith is the book he's favorite
for the World Sharing Champs, yet he's not the book
he's favorites for the Golden Shares that belongs to Tawa Henderson,
the reigning champion. In fact, Leon Samuels, who I think
won the year before, is also favored ahead of Roland.
Is this simply just because you reckon Roland Smith's going

(04:21):
to be concentrating on that World Sharing title at all costs.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Well, that's potentially a factor.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
It's also not a case that the World Championship as
an a replica of the Golden Shar's final. As soon
as you start changing what they are required to do,
it becomes a different event. And ultimately I think that's
reflected in the results of the World Champs in twenty
twenty three, where New Zealand did not.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Pick up a title.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
It really does depend on the conditions what they required
to share. That change is depending on the host nation,
of course, and the fact that you're seeing the likes
of the Falkland Island sharer Dixon coming through. I mean
that's fantastic for the sport, but it is a reflection
of that. You know, if that was being held under
Golden Shares conditions, he may well have not got that

(05:10):
result in the heats.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Karen macinaughty with the local labor MP, longtime supporter and
fan of the Golden Shares, we're talking about the sharing.
We've got the Blade sharers as well. I think a
South African blokes the favorite there. But when it comes
to the wall handling, Karen macinaughty, we do have a
clear favorite A for the Golden Shares title and B
for the world title, and that's Joel hannah Ray.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
You know.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mean he's down there as the best ever and
the results reflect that he's retired from the sport decided
to come back and immediately dominate it again. I think
the guy will go down as one of New Zealand's
greater sportsman.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
To be honest, and it's an opportunity.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Just quickly, Jamie, I do want to acknowledge you because
you have always given the Golden Shares the recognition that
deserves and that can't be said for more broadly. It's
an amazing weekend is sport this week in New Zealand.
But the Golden Shaares, in my mind, is the pinnacle.
It's iconic and thank you for giving it. It's the

(06:13):
due air time.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, it's an.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Honor to be here, to be perfectly honest herein and
I'm lucky that I've got a wee bit of a
background on a handpiece and I can appreciate how hard
it is and just how good these guys are as athletes. Okay, so,
just before I go to this latest Taxpayers Union poll
and I think we've got a result hot off the press,
I want to ask you pick me a winner, because

(06:36):
I'm going to make the assumption that Joelhnare will take
out both wall handling titles. But pick me a winder
for the World Champs and for the Golden Shaars Open titles.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
Well, do you mind if I just quickly touch on
the blade sharing because I want to give Ellan old
Field a bit of a plug here. He's the book's
favorite at the moment, but he's got real stiff competition
from the South African soo. Over the years at World
Chamirampionships have dominated. The thing that stands out for blades
cheering for me is it's not a regular feature at

(07:05):
the Golden Shars, but it is at the World Champs.
And I remember the last time that the Masterden hosted
the World Champs. I was the bookmaker then and I
met Allen and his old man, who at the time
was New Zealand's best blade chaer. Allen was a young
fellow coming through competing at his first Champs, and all
these years later, here he is flying the flag to
New Zealand as.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
The book his favorite.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
So nothing would make me happy to see him take
out the blade cheering. But I think in a nostalgic
I would love to see always see a New shaer
coming through, and we'd love to see Roland Smith take
out his ninth Golden Cheer's title. But I will always
cheer on a local champion, and all the years of

(07:46):
the Golden Chears there's never been a wided upper winner
and I would and honestly you will never hear it
a loud a cheer unless if David Bwett comes on
and finally gets the title he deserves, the roof will
be cheered off the stadium.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, not to mention other name we haven't thrown out there,
and he's a keywich these days. Sharing for Scotland Gavin much. Okay, Hey, Karen,
I've just got these Taxpayers' Union poll results hot off
the press. I'm assuming you've seen these, have you?

Speaker 7 (08:12):
I haven't. Actually, I understand that a lot of National
Party MPs have and it has been leaked out a
little bit earlier this morning, but I haven't seen the results.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Nate Well, well.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Andy McDonald here, who's Jason Pine's weekend producer, are the
better half of Rowena Duncan who's out there doing the
wool handing commentary? Has just handed me the results, Karen,
and I better be nice to you because this time
next year at the Golden Shares you could be a minister.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
So here we go. Let's have a look.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Labor up zero point three percent to thirty four point four,
National down two point nine to twenty eight point four.
But we know MMPs all about coalitions left and right
as it stands at the moment, Karen, center left, that's
your lot sixty one seats center right fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Well, I mean it's pretty tight, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
And that certainly reflects the polling that we've been getting it.
But it shouldn't come as any surprise. I mean, poles
have been shifting only slightly here and there publicly, and
it means that the left could form a government, the
right could form a government. I think all we can
read into this is it's going to be a close election.
I wouldn't like to be Christopher Luxon right now. I'd
be feeling a bit uncomfortable, particularly given that christ Biership's

(09:24):
already tried to take his job.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
He may well do so again, who knows.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
But the good thing about the Golden Share is Jamie
as we can forget about politics for a weekend and
share on something we both love.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Good on you, mate, thank you very much for your time.
Karen mcinnulty local a labor mp here and the Wira
Rapper and of course the former tab bookie, so he
certainly knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
When it comes to the sharing.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
We're going to take a break and hopefully he's been
listening to the show honors. Digger my god, this man
has some machinery. He's got to line up of green
tractors from brand that you wouldn't believe. His name is
Shane mcmanaway. He's a legend in the wire rapper region.
We're going to be chatting to him after the break.
Also Sir David Fagan, Mavus Mullen's Absolute Sharing Royalty, Rachel

(10:09):
Shaer from PTG Rights and Wool, the continued Renaissance of
Strong Wool and Hamish Mackay, a man with not only
a sporting background as a broadcaster but also competed at
junior level in the New Zealand Sharing Champs. Will be
back after the break with Shane mcmanaway.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Hick Her till thirty three seven.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Brandon Nun After twelve you are with the Country, brought
to you by Farmlands and Isuzu. Shane mcmanaway wire, a
rapper farmer, former chief executive of All Flex, is the
new chair of Growing Future Farmers. He's a man behind
and his wife Lynette to be fair behind the gray
Town Health Center looking forward to having a look around

(10:54):
that this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Shane.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
You were going to come up and do the spot live,
but you weren't prepared to give up two hours of
you of time on your digger.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
You love your toys.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, I had a bit of a
window after some awful weather to get some earth moving done,
so I've sort of got my nose to the grindstone
on that. But a beautiful day up here at on
Gahar and getting well through the job now.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I must say. And we arrived in the dark last night, Shane.
But leaving your place this morning to come up the road,
you're just outside a great town to come up the
road to mast It. And my goodness, the wire rapper
is looking mint at the moment. I don't think I've
ever seen it as green at this.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Time of the year.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
No, it's exceptional, Jamie. In fact, you know, we've got
so much grass around us. It's a good position to
be in. And I guess that coupled with good prices,
you know, we're in a perfect spot at the moment.
So we just need to keep making sure that we
do what we do well. And I think it's going
to be a great season for us.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's going to be a great it's going to be
a great weekend for the wire Rapper region. Is this
is truly the biggest in town and you can multiply
that by four. I don't know where the Mavis agrees
with me. With the World Champs on as well. What
a great event for your region.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Oh, it's magnificent and good to see that you've got
sharing royalty there with my dear friend Mavis.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Jamie.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
Yeah, it's magnificent for the Wider rapp and it has
been for a number of years. I've been heavily involved
in it over the years, in early days, back in
the Sunbeam days when I was involved with that sharing
and then into Orflex. We're heavily involved and I certainly
certainly love it looking forward tomorrow night. My grandfather was
a sharer and my father was a shearer, and so
we've I've seen how hard it is to get the

(12:38):
wall off those sheep, and you know, the speed of
these guys and the skill that they've got is just incredible.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Talk to me about your new role as the chair
of Growing Future Farmers.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, Jamie, I'm really excited about this. From Great Future
Farmers is something that I'm really passionate about. I mean
I've had for a number of years now. I guess
kicking off the Zanda McDonald a Ward and looking to
try to track young people and lift them up in
our industry was the starting point. And I'm still the
chair of that and heavily involved in that with our
conference coming up next week in and christ Church announcing

(13:11):
our winners. But the opportunity came along to be part
of Growing Future Farmers, which I've been watching from the
sideline for a long time and been incredibly impressed. Initiative
and Initiative fit kicked off by Tam and Jex Flake
out of Gisbon. They saw a need and today a
number of years on, it's a really stable and well
run operation, putting through about sixty to seventy young students

(13:32):
in a very very organized way. And you know, basically
what we're looking to do is transform the ag sector
through GFF and just making sure that we continue to
highlight two young people leaving school that a career in
agriculture in a well orized fashion can be an incredibly
good career. It's absolutely served me well and I left

(13:54):
school at fifteen.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Okay, Well you've done very well for yourself. You don't
mind me saying so. If I can own as many tractors,
cars and ride on moas as you, Shane, I would
die a happy man.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
Yeah no, Jamie, maybe a little bit of iron disease around,
but certainly we certainly like good gear, and we'd like
to keep our gear and our farms and tip top condition.
And we're super proud of what we've got.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Okay, Rolland Smith's just wandered in here, so I'm going
to have a quick down to him because I know
he's on a tight time frame. But Shane, thank you
so much for hosting us. Really looking forward to a
tour of your great town health center this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
To you and Lynette.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
If every region or province had people like you, we
would have no problems at all.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Thanks for your support.

Speaker 8 (14:38):
Great thanks.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
Jamien Forward catching out for a beer later.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
In the day, Yeah, good stuff, Shane mcmanaway there, Well
here's a man. Thank god, he's not trying to bend
down over this, Michael, six foot six of them. Roland Smith.
He's sweaty from his from his sharing of course, Rolling,
we watched you. You're going pretty well. Interestingly, the tab
has you a favorite for the World Sharing champ but

(15:00):
not a favorite for the Golden Shares. We talked to
Karen macinnulty about that. He had some theories on it.
What's your theory and thanks for coming into chat to
us too, cheers Jamie.

Speaker 10 (15:11):
Maybe because I'm old and slow, maybe I'm not sure
what this theory is there, but I'd love to hear it.
But no, no, I'm not too sure. But no, that
was a good rounding.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Is it harder to get to the Sorry, we're just
getting a roll on on Mike care. Is it harder
to get to the Golden Shares Open Final than it
is perhaps to get to the World Sharing Open Final.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
No, I don't believe that. I think every time you
step up on that Golden Shares finally, there's a bit
of nerves that make it just as hard every time. Look,
there's twelve guys in that semi final now in the
worlds that are pretty down and impressive shares, so it
will be certainly hard to make that World final. But
up after lunch we've got one hundred and twenty something
Open Shares competing to get into that top thirty, So

(15:57):
there's no doubt that's going to be tough.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Just talking to Shane mcmaonaway and I know you know Shane,
and he's got iron disease, he's got at big time,
he's got he's got machinery for Africa.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
You've got a bit of iron.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's I don't know what it is about you share
is David? So David Fagin's the same. Yet you'd sooner
be on a digger than a hand piece.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (16:16):
I think we've spent our time in hell, so you know,
a bit, a bit of fun time. It's not a
bad thing. So no, I don't know what it is.
I've always loved my machinery and loved my tractors and
turning over dirt. So yeah, I was definitely not meant
to be a sharer, So I don't know I went wrong.
But now we're here now, so we'll give it a
good go.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I saw your brother Matt sharing, who's sharing for England.
I don't know what happened to the genetics there. You're
long and tall and he's sort of shorter and squatter.
What chance your brother representing England?

Speaker 11 (16:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (16:43):
So so Matt, he lives in England. Now he married
English girl and they've got three English children, but they've
got they've got the New Zealand passport as well, so
you never know what happens there. But no, it's awesome
to see Matt over here and he's in the semi
final as well. But you don't get me wrong, we
get on that'ing board. There's no love lost there.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, well, Roland, I know you're busy and I'll let
you go. I really do hope, sincerely that you can
get the double here or at least the world Championship title.
If and when you do, because I'm very confident, will
you ride off into the sunset, never to be seen
again on a woolshed?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
See your day's on the digger.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
Yeah, Unfortunately, we've got a few sheep of our own
to share, but you won't be sending me around too
much longer yet.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well made all the best. I really appreciate you coming
in here to do this. So we've got sharing royalties
to David Fagan's around here somewhere, but up after the
break it's mavuh Smullens.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
So Roland Smith.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
We really do wish them all the best and if
Roland can't win that world title, we're really hoping that
Toa Henderson can Toa is the favorite for the Golden
Shares open title, and no doubt he'll be looking to
defend that. So that was a fantastic of Roland to
popp In twenty seven after twelve, back with Mavah Smullens.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Miss something, Tyler Stroll.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Twenty nine after twelve. It's Golden Shares this venue. The
roof will be lifted off the War Memorial Stadium here
in Masterden tomorrow night. It's really heating up here today.
We've heard from Sharing Royalty Roland Smith. We're hoping so
David Fagan will wander in here shortly Sharing Royalty as well.
But when it comes to female Sharing Royalty, I don't

(18:17):
think they come much bigger than Mavers Smullin's Mayvis. You've
worn many hats, not only in the sharing industry but
also in the agribusiness and primary sector industries. But let's
talk about how it started for you. You've won a
couple of open wall handling titles here at the Golden Shares.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
Yes, that was feels like one hundred years ago now, Jamie,
but suddenly carry those with pride and yeah, it's a
family thing to be frank, and you'll find that with
all these big names, whether it's Roland Smith or David
Buick or David Fagan, there's a whole family thing that
goes on beside and behind and in front as well.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well there, you and your late husband Coro were sort
of the first, well the first fan of New Zealand
sharing because you won a couple of Open Wool handling titles.
Caro had made the Open Final, but perhaps in recent
times more as a commentator, he was brilliant.

Speaker 12 (19:12):
Yeah, he loved it. I guess we would go to
a few shows and it can be a bit boring,
you know. People used to say see one sheep Shaw
and I's in one thousand, and it's.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Not quite like that.

Speaker 12 (19:22):
So he really got into that and then took on
the live stream, which I've been able to kind of
help carry through with dig a Barn of all people,
the most mischief Share I know, or I've used to know.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
A leg he's sixty years or sixty years plus and
he's still keeping up with all the young guys on
the speed Share.

Speaker 12 (19:42):
He's not afraid to keep them on us, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Now the live stream because not I mean you can't
get a ticket for love nor money for the Open
Finals tomorrow night. But I know the live stream has
a huge audience, so how do people get onto that made?

Speaker 12 (19:58):
So if you go to the Gods Facebook page, you'll
find the link that will enable the live stream.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
You enable, you we've got.

Speaker 12 (20:09):
At the moment, I know that cumulatively there's thousands of
hits and so people also download it's it's fantastic, and
we keep a teck on whereabouts are coming in from
as well.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And I'm glad we're not broadcasting tomorrow night here because
you wouldn't hear anything this place. The noise is just
unbelievable in this building for those big Open finals.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well maybe us.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
So I'll let you go because I know you've got
to run your live stream. You've got to pick me
a winner for the sharing. Yeah, just give me a
I recontol Henahy's going to win both titles.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
I think it'll be pretty hard to go past Johl.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (20:46):
Okay, so this is a world, so that changes a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Okay, Well, give me a one in the open sharing
for the Golden Shares and.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
The world's all right.

Speaker 12 (20:55):
Well, I'll put my neck on the line.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
And I'll I'm going to go I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Go tour or Rollie.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, but which way?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
The tab has Roly the favorite for the Worlds and
so are the favorite for the Open Chess Open.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
We'll go with that.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
And then we've got and of course the New Zealand
team they're going to win this, aren't they the title?

Speaker 12 (21:14):
I think that'd be very They probably wouldn't be allowed
to walk out of the stadium if they don't, Jamie,
but no that it's been a fantastic world. The teams
are amazing, the people are amazing. It's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
You're amazing. Thank you so much for your time. It
is talking about the time. It's twenty seven away from one.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
We're going to take a break back.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
On the other side of it, Mark Kelly's doing a
great job producing the show out of our Auckland studios.
Michelle Watson had then Eden studios, so Michelle will have
rural news. Mark will update sport for you. And just
in case you're wondering breaking news, was that taxpayer union
poll that we talked to Karen McNulty about it If

(21:56):
we're to believe it polls and Jim Bolger famously said
Bugger the poles. But as it stands at the moment,
with the Taxpayers Union, Poll Labor or a center left
coalition would would be the government sixty one seats compared
to a center right fifty nine. The drums are beating
for Christopher Luxen. He's under all sorts of pressure, so

(22:16):
it's just going to be interesting to see what happens.
Keep an eye on that space. Back after the break
with Rural News and sports News.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
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Speaker 11 (22:35):
A few big headlines to talk about today. So of
course International Woman's Day is on Sunday, and to kind
of celebrate that, Federated Farmers, Rural Women New Zealand and
bright Star are announcing the launch of the Rural Woman
of the Year Award now. Nominations for this open now,
with the winner to be announced at the Primary Industry's
New Zealand Awards and Auckland on the twenty third of June.

(22:57):
And of course it's been time to align with Sunday
with International Woman's Day, so very appropriate Also last night
in christ Church was the first of the regionals and
the Balance Farm Environment Awards. Congratulations to Paul and Kerry
Harmer of Castle Ridge who took out that Canterbury award
and will follow on with more regionals to come. And
also Country Calendar turn sixty today. Its first episode was

(23:18):
on the sixth of March nineteen sixty six. Now Here
is Mark GoSports.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
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Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's rare, Thank you Michelle. The boos have rung out
after Tottenham Hotspurs suffered a three to one home loss
to London rivals Crystal Palace. A fifth straight defeat leaves
Spurs just one point clear of the relegation zone with
nine games remaining. And former All Black Sunny Bill Williams
is saluting the choice of Dave Rennie as a new
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(23:50):
was part of the twenty to twenty twelve at Super
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team culture. Will be crucial back to you, Jamie.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Yeah, and Mark of Dave Rennie.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I think Hamish Mackay Mackay on Sport has been pumping
up as tires as well. Look as we heard yesterday
on the show from Alex Tate of course former black cap,
professional golfer, professional caddy. These days the raw is coming, okay.
That's when you go out into the hills and shoot.
Can I say shoot? Process? Can I say that? I

(24:32):
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Speaker 5 (25:49):
Andy McDonald or g we have. I was worried that.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
We'd lose the last of our trilogy of sharing Royalty.
He's just arrived in the box after the break, Sir
David Fagan, seventeen away from one the country, coming to
you from the War Memorial Stadium where the action is
really heating up. Just before I forget, because I'll get
in trouble if I don't mention this. This year marks

(26:15):
the tenth edition of the Rabobank Good Deeds Competition. So
here's the guts. We've got one hundred thousand dollars. That's
about as much as David Fagan makes in a week
on a dairy farm, and we're going to give it
away or we're not going to rabobankers to celebrate the
tenth year of the Good Deeds Competition, ten prizes of
ten thousand dollars each. They are to upgrade ten rural

(26:37):
community hubs across New Zealand. One lucky prize win we'll
receive a day's free labor from the teams at rabobank
in the country. To make it really simple for you,
just text the word good to five double O nine
and we'll stend you the link so you can enter easily.
So David Fagan, thank you much, thank you very very
much for coming in. You wandered in here and I

(26:58):
know you're a legend. No one will ever beat your
sixteen open titles here. Do you think Roland Smith could
get a ninth though?

Speaker 13 (27:05):
Of course he's got to be in the running, but
you know it'll be a tough ask. We've got some
pretty good guys there amongst it with him, with Tory Henderson,
Gavin Much et cetera, and quite a few others too,
but you know he's got a chance.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
For shure, you said to me this morning that Gavin
much is sharing really well, of course for the worlds,
he's sharing for Scotland, but he's a key we at
heart these days.

Speaker 13 (27:26):
Olly, he's won this year before in the Open and
the big you know, the world event Saturday night's going
to be incredible. But the last event of Golden Shares
Saturday Night is the Open Final, so I think they've
got that right putting that last. It's the main event
as such, you.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Won sixteen of them.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
What's the atmosphere like when you're sharing in front of
I mean you can't buy a ticket for Tomorrow night here,
but literally the roof lifts in this building.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Yeah it does.

Speaker 13 (27:52):
There's something about this place and I mean they've often
talked about renovating it or shifting it to a bigger
venue in that and I hope they don't because the
history's here, the man is here, and there's nothing like
walking on the stage and competing and the Saturday Night finals,
whether it's the World Finals or the Open Final, the
shears walk up there and they just grow legs and

(28:13):
it's going to be amazing.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Great to see your older brother John, who's a legend,
the only bloke that I know, in fact, he's the
only one who's won the Golden Shares and the Golden Pliers,
so that's the fencing and Sharing Championships. He's had his
health issues, but he's back the Share. And when you
arrived as a young sharer because you found success relatively
really early in your career, but you were following in

(28:35):
the steps of your older brother, did that make it easier?

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, of course it did.

Speaker 13 (28:40):
It made it fun because you know, even I can
remember being at school following him around to the field days,
to the fencing competitions when he won the Golden Pliers
I think three or five times or whatever it was,
and wagging school to go up there and watch. And
then laterly latterly when I started sharing. He was probably
one of the best in New Zealand at the time
and I was just starting out. And I think one

(29:00):
of the most special times here was in nineteen eighty
four I was a young feller. He won the Open
for the first time and I was second to John
in the open here in nine and eighty four would
have been wrong to be any other way around. It
was so good to see him win that then. So
he's back this year. He's meeting a lot of people
and as he will say, he wakes up each day
at the moment. That's a bonus.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Well.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I always remember in nineteen ninety two at Alan Shall
It's Wall Shed on Riversdale, you set the world lamb
sharing record for nine hours and I.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Remember the strum up.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
It was a bit of a strum up at halftime
from your older brother John because the conditions weren't favoring you,
and he used some choice language. We could all hear it, David,
and then you came out after lunch the sun came
out and bang.

Speaker 13 (29:43):
It's funny because that choice language. I can remember that.
It was a frustrating day. It never quite went our way,
but we got the record by one or two sheep
or five sheep or something. But it's funny. We used
that against him many years later, about five years ago,
when John was in Wike at a hospital in a
coma for thirty one days and one was talking to
him hoping he was listening. I gave him his pedigree

(30:03):
of what he told me in that record day about
coming through it and waking up, so hopefully it worked.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Now I won't repeat what I heard him say, but
it certainly got you going anyhow, and of course there's
another Fagan. Well, there's lots of Fagans who have been
successful and sharing over the years. But your son Jack,
who's a speed share expert, won the speed share again
here last night. But he's in the Open and I
know he would love to make an Open final and
who knows from there once you're on the final six.

Speaker 13 (30:31):
Yeah, look his stars rising. I guess you might say
it's rising slowly. He's done exceptionally well. Really, I think
he's had about thirty Open wins worldwide in the sharing
last night in the speech here was number ninety one
in the speech here is worldwide. So he's doing well.
He's got everything in front of him, and you'll see

(30:52):
some success from him in the future.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
I'm sure tough being the son of Oh for.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
Sure, but he's made his own way now. He's his
own man. And when we go around at these events
now everyone wants to talk to him, and it's quite
neat because.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Well, he's down the track now.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah okay, so yeah, your Jack Vegan's father the other
way around. Yeah, But anyhow, he's very eloquent young man
and when he finishes the sharing, he's going to be
on the end of a mic, isn't he.

Speaker 13 (31:21):
Yeah, well, he's commentated at in Vicargoll at ilt Stadium, Southland,
at the World Championships. He's commentated in France and Scotland.
He's commentating here last year and he's very good on
the mic, very good with the today, pronunciation almost any
language fluent in French. So he's got a lot of skills.
Any can share a few sheep as well.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
And I reckon one last comment.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I don't know where Rachel Share has gone from PGG
rights And well, Rachel, if you're listening, we're going to
come and have a yarn to us. But anyhow, I
think you're almost more excited by the dairy price than
you are by the sharing here at the Golden Shares,
because you're at cow cocky these days.

Speaker 10 (31:58):
Isn't it amazing?

Speaker 13 (31:58):
I think we all went through eight or nine drops
through last year and we've seen what three four not
just rises but substantial rises recently, And yeah, I'm really
excited to say it's brilliant And isn't it good to
have lamb beef dairy wool has doubled and we're not celebrated.
Get away from the Kiwi tool property celebrate success.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Good on.

Speaker 13 (32:21):
Farming's in a.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Good place, thank you, Sir David Fagan.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Look, we're going to take a break before I forget though,
and we're talking about Farmstrong. They've got a joint initiative
with the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association and they're saying
they would like to give a shout out to all
the sharers because they've just launched this Live Well, Share
Well initiative. Sam Whitelock from farm Strong Roland Smith representing

(32:47):
the sharing industry. It's all about boosting the mental fitness
and well being of the teams who work so hard
on our woolsheds. And if that's you, if you're one
of those people, those hard working people out there in
the woolsheds of New Zealand on the end of a
hand piece or handling the wall. The farm Strong website
has free resources on how to perform at your best
in the shed and stay farm strong.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I can't find Rachel Sharer.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
We're going to wrap the show from the fielding Stock, Sallyards,
the man who called it early, Hamish mckaye on Sport
and Dave Rennie, the new All Black coach.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
McKay on sport with farm Lands protect your cross from
nasties this summer.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Well we've found Rachel Sharer.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
She's been humbly hiding away right beside the commentary box. Look, Rachel,
we're out of time. I'm going to chat to you
on Monday show and we're going to talk about wool
and you can do a review Rachel of the Golden Shares,
PGG rights and great supporters of it.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I apologize, I just.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Didn't see her radio Hamish MacKaye cousin Hamish to wrap
it from the fielding Stock Sallyards. Hamish, you actually let
me start with your sharing background. You were good enough
as a junior sharer to compete at the New Zealand
Sharing Jams.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
Made their first year final back in about nineteen eighty seven.
I used to get very nervous down at the Golden
Shears and one year my gear was a bit sharp
and that.

Speaker 13 (34:09):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (34:09):
I just love the whole atmosphere. It's just all encompassing.
What a great event, and you know it's only getting better,
isn't it?

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Oh oh yeah. Are you going to make it down here?

Speaker 9 (34:19):
Yeah? I'm going to make it down at some stage.
So you keep your phone on you know, because you
know I'll be hoping you'll be putting your hands down
their pocket. We might have to have a cold something.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
You know.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Yeah, I'm up for a cold something.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I can tell you hope I should sound very hot
in the War Memorial Stadium here and mastered Radio Makai
on sport to wrap the week.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
You called it early.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
You called Dave any but that's just because you're biased
and from Manor too.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
Yeah, well I think that, I mean, that's not an
unreasonable as something to make, but I just think of you,
but of your backtrack of it. I just think the
consistency that he's shown through a long, steady career and
the as he saw it early and then they just
had sort of one trust fund kid from it eastern
suburbs of Sydney Mucket all up and put Eddie Jones out. Unfortunately,
we've got the sort of rebound off back of that

(35:06):
and he's lose a lot from that. I mean, I
was amazing. I mean ninety percent of the New Zealand
media have had like a Jamie Joseph tattoo on their
butt cheek over the last month or.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
So, myself included cousin Hales.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah that's true, but yours.

Speaker 9 (35:19):
But you know, you've been such a fit athlete at
next when you drop your decks, it looked good. You know,
it'd be an impressive tattoo of Jamie Joseph.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
But anyway, that's.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
So Reny's got the job. And I think the nice
thing though, is I think that most people have gone
Actually it's okay. Actually we don't mind that it's not Jamie.
For some of the biggest Jamie supporters and obviously there's
a humble relationship between them and now he just needs
to get on with it. But I think getting back
to that at old school, but a you know, maybe
maybe they'll stay at a dirty old public, the Poine

(35:50):
arm And in the old days and do their own
laundry and do a few things, you know, and get
around underneath and play get together. We'll see how it
all pans out. But I'm looking for today any taken over?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Are you going to get up early and watch that
T twenty Cricket World Cup Final?

Speaker 5 (36:03):
How good is that going to be?

Speaker 9 (36:05):
I'm just trying to position this finale and innings. You know,
do you remember when we love the day when New
Zealand we were getting absolutely toasted when lanced again set
the six sixes and you know, so it didn't really
have it was just a you know, go at the investment.
This was one of the most commanding form of presence
innings and just total dominance that I think I've ever seen.

(36:26):
And whether you you know what, doesn't really matter what
form of the game that you enjoy, but you have
seen somebody so powerful and so dominant. And to have
had the I end like that, that was just you know,
there was the cricket example to use a shearing analogy
of soft hand, bottom toothed down, you know all those things.

(36:48):
Love to watch.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Hamus MacKaye with Us MacKaye on Sport. As I said,
you know what you're talking about when it comes to
sharing homos. You've competed at the level, albeit at junior level,
and then you went on to be a broadcast. So
who are you picking for the two big sharing titles?

Speaker 9 (37:03):
Oh look, you know, I'm not sure if I can
get odds on if I could just take a Quanella
one two either way, Tour Henderson en roll of Smith
and I's just been a little bit off the pace
until I think prior tour on the weekend, but day
I've been watching following week in week out right back
from the sort of the last World Cup qualifying around

(37:24):
in Martin four or five weeks ago, and just watching them.
Just the sort of incremental improvement by those two and
obviously they are in the World Championship as the new
Zealanders and I think that they'll reflect the saying they'll
be one and two again in the Golden Sear's Open final.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Okay, thank you Hamus, mckaye and MacKaye on spot. Will
We'll have one of those two hopefully on the show
on Monday, and I would love to see Roland Smith
win the world title and toa he can have the
Golden Shares Open title. That's us done and dusted. We
will be back with all the action from the Golden
Shares Rachel Shareer as well on Monday.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
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