May 8, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Kendall Langston, Chris Brandolino, Duncan Humm, and Jason Walls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 4 (00:16):
You think you're a cowboy. You want to take me
for a rap? You bid us out of love goods.
There's some things that's a categy, Ray Adam that you
went from around here. Let me lead down on the rules.
Are you a bit whiskey? Nobody takes me for a fool?
There's only wrong waited, jump in that moods.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
And all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Good A New Zealand, Welcome to the Country. My name's
Jamie McKay playing a bit of country. I think Michelle's
loaded up Kaylee Bell for two days in a row.
Anyhow you can hear her on the New Country iHeart
Music Station. Not to be confused with this one, but
Friday's Country. Here on the Country, we're going to talk
(01:03):
to someone who's been into politics, boots and all for
the best part of five decades, Winston Peters. To kick
off the show, Kendall Langston as the vice president of
NZ Angus. He's been at the World Angus Forum in Brisbane.
We're going to have a yarn to him. Duncan Hum
who's the guy behind the enn z Farming Facebook page
(01:23):
talking deer farming. Cris Brandolino on the weather, she's wet
again in some places and we even had snow in
April on Mount Hut and Jason Walls sitting in for
Barry Sofa who's on maternity leave. Heather Duplessyl and of
course back on z B. We've got lots to do.
(01:44):
We'll update rural news and sports news for you as
well at the bottom of the hour. But up next,
no show without punch Winston Peters. Well, as promised, Winston
(02:11):
Peter's deputy Prime Minister, not for much longer, New Zealand
first leader, probably for a whole lot longer. Winston, I
want to kick off today's show with the we cut
from your loyal Lieutenant Martua Shane Jones, the Prince of
the Provinces. Have a listen to this. Hoskin keeps cutting
my lunch. I arranged an interview with you a day
or so ago. This morning I hear you first thing
(02:33):
on Hosking. Have you no shame?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well? I and my leader, Winston Peters, have a deep
level of affection for your listenership, and you in particular. However,
one third of the country's population do live in Auckland,
and a fair swag them do listen to Mike Hoskins.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So you know needs must What is it about you
New Zealand First guys, you all call Hosking Hoskins.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, it could be a dialectoral thing from us from
the north much pooh power and Delhi red wine. I
can't pull the account.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Of it, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Shane Jones. Last week on the Country, Winston Peters joins us,
I guess being called Mike Hoskins, you could be called
worse things like an arrogant wokes to loser ge you
didn't spare the rod on r n zed Winston Well.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I don't like planned setups paid for by the Nazion taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The budget is coming up, our n Z is generously funded.
Are they going to get a haircut?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
You'd have to ask the Minister for Broadcasting and the
Minneso Finance and they'll tell you you'll have to wait
till the twenty second of May.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Part of your brand, if you want, is r gie
bargie with the media.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
No that's not correct, but look I began my fluge
career after six months in front of the High Court
on a very famous electoral petition where I was teethed
out of the result and we won, and the next
day they weren't interested in the battle, the strife and
the going forward and all the challenges we faced. All
(04:08):
they were interested in is what are you going to
do with your back pay? Which I thought was disgusting.
And really the issue was about I think called democracy
and not cheating in election times.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So that was way back in the late seventies, you know,
five five decades on. Do you think you've earned Do
you think the media give you your due respect? No?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And I don't care about that because you know, in
the twenty twenty three campaign they utterly boycotted all my meetings.
We were packing the halls all over his ear. We're
making a comeback. And then when they thought, hang on,
he might just get back, they rushed off to the
National play leader. Luxeman said to him over and over again,
why don't you all am out, Why don't you all
them out? Now? This is not neutrality, this is not independence.
(04:52):
This is unspeakable bias and the game paid for by
the taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Tact here part of me wishes you were still happy
to be the MP for Taarrona, because if you were,
you might make it a bit cheaper for people like
me who have got family and business interests in the
Bay of Plenty to get there. I see you were
having a crack at Air New Zealand around the cost
of some of their regional flights, and I say, all
power to you.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Well, look when it's easier and cheaper to fly aboard
than to fly around one's own country. And this is
a country where the provinces generate the economy to the
backbone of the economy, it's sibably not great. So I
made this statement, which I think is obvious.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Pay equity. There was some interesting jabs in the house.
You said we should be more concerned about what a
woman is rather than pay equity. Chris Hapkins, to be Fair,
landed a good shot on you. He said, is your
definition of a woman someone who gets paid less than
a man? Now, Audrey young At, writing in The Herald,
(05:57):
said the pay equity ambush will come back to bite
the nets and then break it. So I guess the
coalition government, what do you think or is this just
going to help us save or balance the books for
the budget.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Look, the reality is that the law which was changed
in twenty twenty with the agreement of every party in
Parliament simply wasn't working because the so called comparative between
equity profession by profession just doesn't make any sense. It's
not logical and we have always been and we've proven
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it over a long time for an increase in the
minimum wage and for increase in wages, but we've said
over that same time, you've got to cut business taxes
so they can pay their workers more. We have got
to go for a growth strategy that actually works, where
the serious added value in wealth creation and exporting drive
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does what we did in the fifties and the sixties
when we were number two or three in the world.
It's not that complicated. But of course back they had
members of Parliament who are practical, not just come toraight
a university with no experience at all.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, talk about exporting. You will be buoyed by the
fact that the UK has been able to get a
free trade agreement with India at Bodswell.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
For us, well, we've got to remember this that the
UK is a much better economy and it would be
much easier for them to get a trading arrangement with
India than a small country like ours. But our job
is to go out and work to our max to
get the best we possibly can with a fast rising,
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seriously rising and very very successful economy. And if we
focose on that, we can do it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Sakia Starm are not very popular on the domestic front,
especially with farmers in his inheritance tax. But it'll be
fair to say he's making a bit of a mark
on the world stage. He's managed to massage Donald Trump's
ego and get a trade agreement between the US and
the UK. And will be fair to say that you
urged us a few weeks ago to calm the farm
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when it comes to Trump and his tariffs and trade.
Do you think you've been vindicated in saying that.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yes, it makes no sense to think out loud. Our
job is to be forced us, take the best counsel,
wait to the dust settles, and then work on getting
the outcome that we see. And what concerned me at
the time was so many people were saying it means this, this,
and this, when they had no idea what it means.
(08:30):
But UK has just proven that I know.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You're not a big fan of arin Z. Do you
read the Herald the website.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
If I'm trying to put Mogodon out of business?
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I do. Okay, Well, there's a very good story in
there today written by Phil Gifford, and I'm sure you're
well aware of Phil. And he's named the six Moss famous.
If you want almost all blacks, he's got mild mate,
Dave Halligan and there Bob Graham, Alan Dawson, Dwayne Monkey,
Greg Denham. I'm sure you know Greg Denham. But the
other one is Brian Going and I'm thinking Northland. Brian
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was the first five eight. You were a second five eight?
Did you play with them or against him?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
But not out of Northern Irea was an open captain
of the Open Marie side, and I played for alongside
him in the North versus South Marie game a long
way back. But of course Brian's problem was that said
was the first grade all Black and Ken his brother
got to be an All Black. So three it's going
to be very difficult for Brian.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What about Greg Denham, the big strong prop. He was
a lawyer, wasn't he?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I played rugby with him as uck University as well,
and of course he started off at the Sentisory quarter.
But he's a big, strong and fast and he's the
only person I know who turned back a chance to
play in the All Backs twice because the second time,
in particular, he had a law practice and he couldn't
forord to lose it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
So I'll tell you what, during the course of this chat,
which has gone for six or seven minutes, the most
animated you've been is when you talked rugby.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
No animated when I talk about a lot of other
things in which I've got a passive interest. But you
happen to remind me of a time long gone by,
and yes, one memory so that I recall those things.
You know, I was a country boy that came to
orkand and one of the best things that happened to
me was I made the York University side. And now
you've got alongside a whole of these people from far
(10:20):
better schools and all of a suddenly discover, hanglin a minute.
They might have gone to better schools, but they're no
better than we are. And our job was to learn.
And when you go it to from the country to universities,
you know your focus is almost like you can't see
with great clarity. And certainly you've got a great education,
greater communication, greater influences and all of a sudden the
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world's your western It was great.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
There you go. And if you come from a farm,
you've always got a good work ethic. Winston Peter's Deputy
Prime Minister, New Zealand First Leader. Keep up the war
on woke. We'll see you later, Thank you, cheers, Thank
you once then that is eighteen after twelve. We're going
country on the country today on a Friday. Up next,
we're heading to a different country, namely Australia. Kendall Langston
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Rowena chatted to him. I think when I was in
New York last year, what a great trip that was. Anyhow,
he's the VP of Angus New Zealand. He's been at
the World Angus Forum which has just wound up in Brisbane.
He's also got a really interesting backstory, including thirty years
in the military. He's up next. Well, chat to Chris
(11:30):
Brandolino from newa about our weather as we do on
a Friday, dunk and hum on deer farming and he's
of course the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page
and Jason Walls polls pay equity, the story that won't
go away. I don't think it will for the government
and the social media bill. We'll have a yard to
him before the end of the hour as well. It's
(11:52):
on the Country, brought to you by brands.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
See you go, button Man.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
It all and home about the time I had.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Brisbane is our next port of call on the Country.
The World Angus Forum has just finished there, finished last
night with a few red wines. And next guest tells
me his name is Kendall Langston. He's the vice president
of Angus en Z. Got a really interesting business and
military background. I'm going to come back to that one.
(12:39):
But Kendall, I know that you've got farming interests in
South Canterbury. You're based in Christchurch. What's your connection with
the Angus breed?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Look, the Angus breed goes back a long way in
our family as a farm's one hundred and twelve years
in the family this year, and my grandfather was an
Angus breeding member in the sixties. We Fiscalus cattle, you know,
in the late fifties, and then my uncle's been an
ex chairman and life member of Angus New Zealand. So
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he since passed away, but so a real connection there,
a love for black cattle.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The World Angus Forum held over the past two days.
Was it exciting? It was.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
It's been well over that. The formal part of It's
been two days here in Brisbane, but it started in Tamworth.
They did a farm tour and then there was the
Angus Youth Teams. They had twelve youth teams competing over
last weekend in various farming type attributes and beef and
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you know, stopped judging, so it was evenly. Was really good.
We had the prize giving yesterday and I came across
on Tuesday with our chairman and general manager and we
had the Angus World the World Angus Secretariat, so that's
the formal part of We're twenty six countries I think,
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had a formal meeting and updates around you know, what's
happening in the industry and country updates. So I presented
that on behalf of Angus New Zealand. I'm probably ahead
of the conference.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Sorry, I'm probably asking the wrong person here, but is
Angus the world's number one beef breed?
Speaker 10 (14:25):
Yes it is, Yes, it is. I think we're certainly
the dominant. I don't know the percentage genetics globally, but
it's sort of up in the well over fifty percent.
In New Zealand. We had some data that angus genetics
were influencing around sixty four percent of the New Zealand
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beef heard so you know that will have grant.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now the calf styles are just coming to an end
here in this country. Huge money's being paid for beef calfs,
notably angus, and of course we're heading into the ball
selling season and i'd imagine some big, big money's going
to be paid for some of those big black angus balls.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
Yes, this is definitely the association our members. It's probably
why you know there would have been more in Australia.
I thank you for this work for them, but it's
right on ball sellings. It's just starting to get underway
and it pushes through May and June and into July.
So yeah, very much the business end of the breeding
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season and you know, angus is the last two seasons
have been stellar in New Zealand and you know, fingers crossed,
it's another good year. The beef industries doing really well.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Tell me a bit about your background other than an
interest in farming in South Canterbury and being vice president
of Angus New Zealand, you're a director of a business
advisory firm called Pivot and Pace and you spent thirty
years in the military. Does that discipline come in handy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, it does.
Speaker 10 (16:00):
I sort of did eighteen years as a regular army
officer and then I've been since been in the reserve
and definitely around leadership and development and decision making and
strategic thinking. Yes, it's pay well, I've probably got me
the opportunities I have. But my business partner at gregle
Not and I am coved and Pace. It's a sort
of specialist consultancy working around strategy. Our call businesses around
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the implementation of strategy. So the bit where you actually
do something, Jamie and we do a bit of leadership
coaching and that sort of leads me into some of
the directorships I've had. And I'm pretty passionate about governance too.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I hope you don't do too much of that management
speak gobbledy, you know, using words like process, outcomes and
my favorite, I hate it learnings. Tell me you don't
do that, Kendal.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
I don't do that, Jamil. I would never use something
like seamless transition because every time someone said that it's
been a complete nightmare.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It reminds me of when we get a email and
someone has left the business. They're looking for new opportunities
and brackets that have been gassed. Anyhow, Hey Kendall Leston
out of Brisbane. I hope you recover well from a
couple of days at the World Angus Forum. Safe travels home.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
Thanks you much, Jomielve we talk, Yes, good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Too, Thank you, Kendall. Yes, management gobbledygook. Sometimes people send
text to well, I've got a text here that arrived
this morning. I think it was meant for the HOSK,
not me. Mike, your interview with Mark Robertson is a
great demonstration to kids on why you shouldn't take meth
(17:42):
and it was. I listened to it this morning. Did
you listen to it, Michelle.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
I caught the very end of it, but I don't
remember that part of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, it's sort of like I said yesterday when they
announced their loss. I could make comment on it, but
I would be what were the words I was thinking of?
Cruel and unshowed veritable if I did. And then I
read something on the Herald. I think it was by
Gregor Paula to see if I can drag it up
on my phone. And then I thought, it's no wonder
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they're losing money. Yeah, here it is here, So this
is end z are blessed. They're cotton socks. An example
of where money might have been spent without a strong
enough case. And I remember this from last year. The
All Blacks were able to take seven extra players to
Japan to bolster their thirty six man squad, which came
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at an estimated total cost of about four hundred and
fifty thousand, split between wages, flights, and accommodation. It's in
the Herald. You want to read this story. But when
you've got thirty six in a rugby team, you don't
need another seven. There's plenty to go around. I'm sure
the original thirty six would be probably keen for a
bit more game time. I mean, you just wonder if
(18:57):
it was their own My litmus test shell is if
it's your own company, would you spend it?
Speaker 11 (19:02):
Yeah, that's true. And also I wonder in the old
days did they take that many players Jacks.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, they took thirty for instance, Wilson winner A took
thirty to the UK, and did they go to Ireland,
your Uko Island and France. But they were away for
four months.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
It was a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
And they also used to play Saturday Wednesday Saturday and
guys like Colin needs the Great Pine Tree. He was
angry if he was dropped for a Wednesday game. Also
in this excellent story in The Herald, I'm sounding like
a cheerleader for the Herald today. The red Flag expense, though,
is the twelve million that has been pumped into content
(19:42):
into the content hub NZR Plus. This is sort of
their media arm of the All Blacks. Media companies across
New Zealand are genuinely bewildered, including the one that we're
working for, about what exactly the money's been spent on
is there's little or nothing to show for it in
terms of or quality. And all I can see that's
(20:02):
come out of Insta Plus's sort of media prevention. The
All Blacks aren't available to the mainstream media because they're
hogging them for instr Plus, which no one's digesting at
all anyhow. Yeah, I think they need to I think
they need a bit of a shakeup to be perfectly honest.
(20:23):
Up next Chris Brandolino from Newer Before the End of
the Hour, Dunk and Hum on deer farming and ge
the ge Bill. He's got some strong feelings on that one.
And Jason Walls, our political editor, on polls, pay equity
and the social Media Bill. As we go Country on
the Country on the radio station.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
On All green Land Beach Bakish DC Seniorita bending down
in pantom.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
No you can't beat the country twang? Is this is
this Sloop Combs Yep, yep, She's given me the thumbs up.
It is when it rains at pause. That's a good
song to lead into. A weather man from Newa Chris Branderlin,
Are you a big country music fan? Because I think
our new country music station what started today on iHeartRadio
was on on FM frequency in Auckland.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Am I a bad person if I say no, Jamie Well, I.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Would have thought everyone in America loved country music? Or
is it only the billy bobs in the middle bit.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Look, I don't want to say anything effective because you know,
to reach their own, but let's just say it's.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Not my jam Okay, weather, weather forecasting is your jam.
It just keeps training in some places.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
Including today, ye look for those listening in the Upper
North Island, watch out for really heavy rain. I think
this afternoon early evening for Northland, Auckland, Wakato, we're getting
some much easy rain by the way in Tetanaki, so
that's good news even down into the Vanahua two. But
this is you know, this rain extends at the top
(22:15):
of the South Island as well into eventually I think
water wrap but making the drop of rain, but more
likely the heavier stuff on the other side of the ranges,
the other side of the tatar Ruvers. And then well
there's some rain and cooler temperatures down into your neck
of the woods. All that clears some of that rain.
By the way, Upper North Island could be heavy, maybe
a localized flash flooding. But once that gets out of here,
(22:36):
we are studying the stage for a pretty good I
guess next few days it will be cooler. So Mother's
Day is of course Sunday, and that looks to be
a pretty good day pretty much country wide. And then
as we look into the new week, we'll start to
see some rain. You move on to the west coast
of the South Island, Fjordland and Lower Southland usual suspects.
(22:58):
Maybe this time next week, Jamie, we could see another
system lurking from the north. We'll see if that does
impact the upper North Island. But if it doesn't, we
would see more dry weather. So I do think once
we get through today, is what I'm trying to say,
we should see successive days of dry weather. Cool off
a little bit for the weekend, but not too bad.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Hey, yeah, what's the outlook like for the rest of May?
Because a mild May sits farmer is up nicely for
the winter.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
Yeah, mild May. So I think whether why are the
outlook for May? Is we're expecting temperatures basically to be
average or above average for much of the country. That
will be the theme. I do think we could be
looking at potentially a cool spell or say a cold
snap as we work our way into maybe the third
week of May, so twentieth, twenty, first, twenty second somewhere
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in there. So that could be a period where we
find some frost. But I think what will happen after that.
It looks like as we approach the last couple of
days May thirtieth and thirty first, we'll see temperatures warm up,
and that's probably a theme Jamie, where Yeah, we do
see these periods of cool temperatures, even chili temperatures, but
they don't last very long, and I think that will
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kind of repeat itself throughout the upcoming winter season. And
that's a consequence. It doesn't look very cold for winter now.
We haven't issued our Winter Outlooked since you were a
friend of the family, Jamie. As well as the country,
we think that we're leading towards certainly a warmer than
average period through July. A lot of north and northeast
wins more than the usual, and that will increase the
odds for big rain events. I do hear the country
music queuing up, so that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Means I need to go good on you, Chris. You
have enjoy your weekend, you two buddy Chris, Briandolena from
theywere Yeah, the country music is queuing up. We do
need to move on some of your ticks coming in
about in z it are love your comments on n
z RF you. This must be from an older text
they haven't They known as the in z RF you
(24:53):
for quite a wild Texter God bless you. It's not
called the Kremlin for nothing. That's honestly a bit like that.
And as I say, the chief executive was on with
the host this morning and it was just gobbledygook, just gobbledygook. Anyhow,
we'll take a break. Maybe I'm old school. We'll take
(25:14):
a break. We're going to do rural news and sports news.
We're gonna have a chat to dunk and hum about
deer farming and the gee bill and Jason Wall's a
political editor to wrap the week for us here on
the country.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
When more, oh why rains it?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Will it?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Lecto?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
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Speaker 11 (25:57):
To brighten your mood. Get what I did there, Janie, No, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
We have to listen to this. This is this sort
of like a cow pun bit of a pun ya.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
So one of the country's most successful cows is the
second mother inducted into the Livestock Hall of Fame Meander
if Am I known as April, as being recognized for
her influence on the dairy sector after producing over one
hundred offspring. Man, that's a lot of calves, isn't it.
The average dame has five, so that's huge. Selection manager
(26:26):
Simon Worth says April's produced twenty five balls that are
being used to breed the next generation of dairy cow.
Some mothers don't even have one of those.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
How can she have one hundred calves?
Speaker 11 (26:37):
I don't know. She's either old or that's a lot
not at once.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Jami, obviously I know that, but you might want to
check that story. So there you go. That's slightly dodgy
rural news with Michelle.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
Is that you're lot, well, one hundred offspring, So I
guess you could say that it's more that she hasn't
had the calves. That could be like the offspring the offspring,
like counting up, betting up right, let's just get out of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
This with an AFCO kiwi to the bone. Since nineteen oh.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Four, it's been confirmed that Auckland FC won't be moving
to Eden Park for the A League Men's Final series.
And they'll stay at Mount Smart Stadium. Discussions occurred over
whether the football club should shift to the biggest Sandringham arena,
i Eden Park, but the governing body which takes the
gate has opted to put extra seating at Penrose instead,
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which is Mount Smart. Now I love this story. He
might have heard this one at the top of the house.
Some early controversy has Let me just bubble Morgan Wollen
in the background, because I like that. Some early controversy
has emerged in the papacy of the first American pontiff,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, who was born in Chicago. Reports
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that the new head of the Catholic Church is a
Cubs baseball fan have been contradicted by his brother John.
He says his bling is a White Sox disciple. That's
cleverly written anyhow. But wait, there's more. The household was
allegedly split of their mum rooted for the Cubs and
their dad, ironically enough supported wait for it, the Saint
(28:16):
Louis Cardinals. What a great irony that is. That's your
sports news up next, dunkan h. I'm talking deer farming
in the ge bill talking about.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
You, Confrey Jing most love.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Alrightio, we got to the bottom of the dairy cow
that's had one hundred calves. I was confused. I wasn't
listening to be fair Embryo Transport transplants, you silly buggers.
Thank you for that rather well direct direct text. Well done. Yeah,
we wasn't thinking about that, but I was only half
listening to Michelle. I was pre reading the sports news
(29:03):
about which Chicago Baseball side the new pope, Pope Leo
the fourteenth supporter. And anyhow, we've got to the bottom
of that mystery. Duncan hum is a mid Canterbury dairy farmer,
is also the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page.
New opportunities for Venison. Did you hear me talking to
(29:24):
Kendall Langston about new opportunities and what that means in
the corporate world? Duncan Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Hopefully we're not talking the same thing, because I quite
like my job, and yeah, I know it would be
quite disappointing to I have to go and find new
opportunities elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well, I quite like my job because I'd hate to
do a proper one. It would be too hard to
work at my age. Anyhow, Duncan so what are these
new opportunities for venison, because we're going to run out
of there shortly. I see we're down to where's my
livestock numbers were down to what seven hundred and nine
thousand deer? We used to have them close to a million.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, it's quite frightening that And yeah, obviously some critical
mass issues come into play when the numbers do dwindle.
But yeah, there's been a lot cropping for quite a
while actually in the background, always looking for new markets
and stuff for Venison, venison products, obviously looking for things
to do like nose to tail for that whole animal good.
(30:27):
Example is the company we supply sends venison to a
company called Force Nature Meats in the USA, and they're
doing things. They've got a mince product that's also got
organ meat in it, and that's an absolute flying off
the shelves and selling for bloody good money. So that
makes good use of months. And then yeah, also offul
(30:51):
that used to go to stuff like pet food and
that sort of thing, which is hard hard to get
good liable money for.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Okay, duncan, what do you dare firm get paid at
the moment for a kilo of venison.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I think the last time I sent stuff was Bear
in mind that's sort of low point of the season.
I think we're about nine fifty akilo.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think so you're just a wee bit more expensive
than lamb on a per kilo basis. Why is venison
so expensive and almost hard to obtain like in our supermarkets?
I know that silver Fern Farms, to their credit, do
a wonderful venison package, but it's not cheap. Why isn't
venison cheaper? Why aren't you guys having a crack at
the domestic market? Because I think if people got the
(31:32):
opportunity to get venison at a reasonable price, they would
love it because it's just a magnificent meat.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I mean it is great. Well silver Fern have done
in the domestic market with their monthsity I do it
does call us a bit when you see it what
we get paid and the difference between what it is
on the shelf for the people who want to eat it.
That said, I'll give a wee shadout to Merchant the Venison,
which is local company here in Canterbury. You can buy
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it online and are pretty reasonable. They supply a lot
of restaurants and stuff around Canterbury as well. So yeah,
it's around, but yeah, i'd love it for to be
less of a gap between what we get paid and
what the consumer pays.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What a great name for a company, the Merchant of Venison,
very clever play on words. Okay, I want to talk
to you about two things. The ge bill you're dead
against that, and then the Paris Accord. You're dead against
us staying in there. Now we'll start with the Paris Accord.
I'm hearing whispers that a collaboration poll across the Methane
(32:37):
Science Accord, Groundswell and NZ Farming is going to put
out some numbers around Paris and they're not going to
be good for staying in.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah. Well, it's always interesting, you know, when you see online.
Obviously I work around on digital most of the time
rather than newspapers and whatnot. But yeah, it's always interesting
what you have, the gut feeling you get reading online
from people, what they thoughts are. And so we had
a pretty good idea what most grassroots farmers and people
(33:11):
who eat food think, and so we decided we'd try
and put some data around that because it's a bit
hard to get sort of like a unsiloed survey from you,
like an industry group does it or something like that.
So it's hard to get some good numbers and some
good data. So yeah, we decided to get together and
put a pole out and yeah, some good data coming
(33:34):
and watch what's.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Your margin of EA or is this just going to
be the disfranchised photo.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Quite what a margin of ERA is. But obviously we've
all got some pretty vague audiences or people in our community.
So we've had I'm quite sure what they're sitial numbers,
but yeah, close to something like fifteen hundred responses so
to a ten keen question survey.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Okay, well wait that and just a quick final comment
from you on the ge bell. Do you think from
a deer farmer's point of view anyhow, that we're going
down the wrong track and pursuing this.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Ah, well, we're really lucky. We're real closely connected to
the people who literally pick the stuff off the shelves
in the States and eat it and what they want.
And that joker from their sales and or something from
Agrazero the other day was saying that Whole Foods are
talking about carbon tunnel vision, but certainly from Whole foods
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and people who buy from Force and Nature in the States.
They're not telling us that at all. They are interested
about soil health, healthy food and unbastardized food from additives
and gmo stuff. Venison. We've already got a sign a
declaration that they haven't had any gmo feeds or anything
in their lifetime already. So we've been doing that for years.
(34:55):
And yeah, we could be it in the ship really.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Overhead.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well that's a that's a nice direct way of stating it.
Dunk and got to go because I've got to go
to Jason Walls. Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward
to your poll in association with the methane science according
Groundswell on the Paris Agreement. We'll see you later.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yep, no worries.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
There we go, Dunk and hum. They've got a big
following too, to be fair on NZ Farming Facebook page.
You're going to take a break Jason Walls to wrap
it actually before we go to Jason Walls, just in
case I forget from Farm Strong. That's another five on
the trot from us talking about shows me being actually
here for five days in a row has been a
(35:38):
nice change. Speaking of five farm strongs five ways to
well Being as simple daily habits that you can use
to improve your well being and relieve stress and pressure.
For more tips and resources about managing the ups and
downs of farming, head to farmstrong dot co dot nz
and see what works for you and on behalf of
the country and the folks at farm Strong you have
a grand weekend will bid you for well again. After
(36:02):
Jason Walls. Okay, my goodness, my effort. Let's wrap it
with Jason Walls our political edit. Jason, we've got a
text and and you're a much brighter man than me
and your fingers on the pulse. And the question was,
(36:24):
what's the difference between pay equity and equal pay? Do
you know the answer to that one?
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Oh, listen, May, I was hoping you were going to
put it on this as well with something like that.
To be honest, no, I don't. And I think a
lot of that comes down to the fact that this
is actually quite complex, this whole situation, and there is
some legal definitions behind that question as well, So I
wouldn't want to lead anybody in all.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Right, Okay, well we'll try and figure that one out
by this time next week. Audrey Young and the Herald
said the pay equity ambush is the word she used,
will come back to bite the nets. Do you think
it will? Oh?
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I absolutely. I mean all you have to do is
look around the tree today and see there's people protesting
outside various minister and MP's places across New Zealand. I
think that the opposition and the unions have done a
really good job in stirring up sort of their supporters
to rally against this legislation and expect it to be
drawn upon as we go into the budget as well,
(37:19):
with the main it being one of the main, if
not the main attack line from the opposition.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, maybe not that popular. The social media proposal, it's
quite popular, especially with parents. I've got like thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Well, I mean the problem with this one is that
it's actually not going to come into a force in
force because it's a government member's bill. If they really
wanted to get it across the line, they should have
done it as a government bill, which means that they
could just do it in the House. This way, they
have to wait for it to be pulled from the
biscuit tin. So if you want to see this one coming,
don't hold your breath because it's a slim slim chance
of it happening anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Hi, Jason Wills, thank you very much for your time
wrapping the Country for this week. YEP and farm Strong
go and check it out farm strong dot co dot
nz and see what works for you and Locket and
Eddie will catch you back on Monday. How good is
that Chiefs Crusaders game going to be tomorrow night? See
you Monday.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
Last Day.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Brent Starkest of the
leading agriculture brands,
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks to Brent.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're specialist in John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ana.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
You think you're a cowboy. You want to take me
for a rap? You bid us out of love goods.
There's some things that's a categy, Ray Adam that you
went from around here. Let me lead down on the rules.
Are you a bit whiskey? Nobody takes me for a fool?
There's only wrong waited, jump in that moods.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
And all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Good A New Zealand, Welcome to the Country. My name's
Jamie McKay playing a bit of country. I think Michelle's
loaded up Kaylee Bell for two days in a row.
Anyhow you can hear her on the New Country iHeart
Music Station. Not to be confused with this one, but
Friday's Country. Here on the Country, we're going to talk
(01:03):
to someone who's been into politics, boots and all for
the best part of five decades, Winston Peters. To kick
off the show, Kendall Langston as the vice president of
NZ Angus. He's been at the World Angus Forum in Brisbane.
We're going to have a yarn to him. Duncan Hum
who's the guy behind the enn z Farming Facebook page
(01:23):
talking deer farming. Cris Brandolino on the weather, she's wet
again in some places and we even had snow in
April on Mount Hut and Jason Walls sitting in for
Barry Sofa who's on maternity leave. Heather Duplessyl and of
course back on z B. We've got lots to do.
(01:44):
We'll update rural news and sports news for you as
well at the bottom of the hour. But up next,
no show without punch Winston Peters. Well, as promised, Winston
(02:11):
Peter's deputy Prime Minister, not for much longer, New Zealand
first leader, probably for a whole lot longer. Winston, I
want to kick off today's show with the we cut
from your loyal Lieutenant Martua Shane Jones, the Prince of
the Provinces. Have a listen to this. Hoskin keeps cutting
my lunch. I arranged an interview with you a day
or so ago. This morning I hear you first thing
(02:33):
on Hosking. Have you no shame?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well? I and my leader, Winston Peters, have a deep
level of affection for your listenership, and you in particular. However,
one third of the country's population do live in Auckland,
and a fair swag them do listen to Mike Hoskins.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So you know needs must What is it about you
New Zealand First guys, you all call Hosking Hoskins.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, it could be a dialectoral thing from us from
the north much pooh power and Delhi red wine. I
can't pull the account.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Of it, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Shane Jones. Last week on the Country, Winston Peters joins us,
I guess being called Mike Hoskins, you could be called
worse things like an arrogant wokes to loser ge you
didn't spare the rod on r n zed Winston Well.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I don't like planned setups paid for by the Nazion taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The budget is coming up, our n Z is generously funded.
Are they going to get a haircut?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
You'd have to ask the Minister for Broadcasting and the
Minneso Finance and they'll tell you you'll have to wait
till the twenty second of May.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Part of your brand, if you want, is r gie
bargie with the media.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
No that's not correct, but look I began my fluge
career after six months in front of the High Court
on a very famous electoral petition where I was teethed
out of the result and we won, and the next
day they weren't interested in the battle, the strife and
the going forward and all the challenges we faced. All
(04:08):
they were interested in is what are you going to
do with your back pay? Which I thought was disgusting.
And really the issue was about I think called democracy
and not cheating in election times.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So that was way back in the late seventies, you know,
five five decades on. Do you think you've earned Do
you think the media give you your due respect? No?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And I don't care about that because you know, in
the twenty twenty three campaign they utterly boycotted all my meetings.
We were packing the halls all over his ear. We're
making a comeback. And then when they thought, hang on,
he might just get back, they rushed off to the
National play leader. Luxeman said to him over and over again,
why don't you all am out, Why don't you all
them out? Now? This is not neutrality, this is not independence.
(04:52):
This is unspeakable bias and the game paid for by
the taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Tact here part of me wishes you were still happy
to be the MP for Taarrona, because if you were,
you might make it a bit cheaper for people like
me who have got family and business interests in the
Bay of Plenty to get there. I see you were
having a crack at Air New Zealand around the cost
of some of their regional flights, and I say, all
power to you.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Well, look when it's easier and cheaper to fly aboard
than to fly around one's own country. And this is
a country where the provinces generate the economy to the
backbone of the economy, it's sibably not great. So I
made this statement, which I think is obvious.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Pay equity. There was some interesting jabs in the house.
You said we should be more concerned about what a
woman is rather than pay equity. Chris Hapkins, to be Fair,
landed a good shot on you. He said, is your
definition of a woman someone who gets paid less than
a man? Now, Audrey young At, writing in The Herald,
(05:57):
said the pay equity ambush will come back to bite
the nets and then break it. So I guess the
coalition government, what do you think or is this just
going to help us save or balance the books for
the budget.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Look, the reality is that the law which was changed
in twenty twenty with the agreement of every party in
Parliament simply wasn't working because the so called comparative between
equity profession by profession just doesn't make any sense. It's
not logical and we have always been and we've proven
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it over a long time for an increase in the
minimum wage and for increase in wages, but we've said
over that same time, you've got to cut business taxes
so they can pay their workers more. We have got
to go for a growth strategy that actually works, where
the serious added value in wealth creation and exporting drive
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does what we did in the fifties and the sixties
when we were number two or three in the world.
It's not that complicated. But of course back they had
members of Parliament who are practical, not just come toraight
a university with no experience at all.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, talk about exporting. You will be buoyed by the
fact that the UK has been able to get a
free trade agreement with India at Bodswell.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
For us, well, we've got to remember this that the
UK is a much better economy and it would be
much easier for them to get a trading arrangement with
India than a small country like ours. But our job
is to go out and work to our max to
get the best we possibly can with a fast rising,
(07:35):
seriously rising and very very successful economy. And if we
focose on that, we can do it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Sakia Starm are not very popular on the domestic front,
especially with farmers in his inheritance tax. But it'll be
fair to say he's making a bit of a mark
on the world stage. He's managed to massage Donald Trump's
ego and get a trade agreement between the US and
the UK. And will be fair to say that you
urged us a few weeks ago to calm the farm
(08:04):
when it comes to Trump and his tariffs and trade.
Do you think you've been vindicated in saying that.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yes, it makes no sense to think out loud. Our
job is to be forced us, take the best counsel,
wait to the dust settles, and then work on getting
the outcome that we see. And what concerned me at
the time was so many people were saying it means this, this,
and this, when they had no idea what it means.
(08:30):
But UK has just proven that I know.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You're not a big fan of arin Z. Do you
read the Herald the website.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
If I'm trying to put Mogodon out of business?
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I do. Okay, Well, there's a very good story in
there today written by Phil Gifford, and I'm sure you're
well aware of Phil. And he's named the six Moss famous.
If you want almost all blacks, he's got mild mate,
Dave Halligan and there Bob Graham, Alan Dawson, Dwayne Monkey,
Greg Denham. I'm sure you know Greg Denham. But the
other one is Brian Going and I'm thinking Northland. Brian
(09:04):
was the first five eight. You were a second five eight?
Did you play with them or against him?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
But not out of Northern Irea was an open captain
of the Open Marie side, and I played for alongside
him in the North versus South Marie game a long
way back. But of course Brian's problem was that said
was the first grade all Black and Ken his brother
got to be an All Black. So three it's going
to be very difficult for Brian.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What about Greg Denham, the big strong prop. He was
a lawyer, wasn't he?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I played rugby with him as uck University as well,
and of course he started off at the Sentisory quarter.
But he's a big, strong and fast and he's the
only person I know who turned back a chance to
play in the All Backs twice because the second time,
in particular, he had a law practice and he couldn't
forord to lose it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
So I'll tell you what, during the course of this chat,
which has gone for six or seven minutes, the most
animated you've been is when you talked rugby.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
No animated when I talk about a lot of other
things in which I've got a passive interest. But you
happen to remind me of a time long gone by,
and yes, one memory so that I recall those things.
You know, I was a country boy that came to
orkand and one of the best things that happened to
me was I made the York University side. And now
you've got alongside a whole of these people from far
(10:20):
better schools and all of a suddenly discover, hanglin a minute.
They might have gone to better schools, but they're no
better than we are. And our job was to learn.
And when you go it to from the country to universities,
you know your focus is almost like you can't see
with great clarity. And certainly you've got a great education,
greater communication, greater influences and all of a sudden the
(10:41):
world's your western It was great.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
There you go. And if you come from a farm,
you've always got a good work ethic. Winston Peter's Deputy
Prime Minister, New Zealand First Leader. Keep up the war
on woke. We'll see you later, Thank you, cheers, Thank
you once then that is eighteen after twelve. We're going
country on the country today on a Friday. Up next,
we're heading to a different country, namely Australia. Kendall Langston
(11:08):
Rowena chatted to him. I think when I was in
New York last year, what a great trip that was. Anyhow,
he's the VP of Angus New Zealand. He's been at
the World Angus Forum which has just wound up in Brisbane.
He's also got a really interesting backstory, including thirty years
in the military. He's up next. Well, chat to Chris
(11:30):
Brandolino from newa about our weather as we do on
a Friday, dunk and hum on deer farming and he's
of course the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page
and Jason Walls polls pay equity, the story that won't
go away. I don't think it will for the government
and the social media bill. We'll have a yard to
him before the end of the hour as well. It's
(11:52):
on the Country, brought to you by brands.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
See you go, button Man.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
It all and home about the time I had.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Brisbane is our next port of call on the Country.
The World Angus Forum has just finished there, finished last
night with a few red wines. And next guest tells
me his name is Kendall Langston. He's the vice president
of Angus en Z. Got a really interesting business and
military background. I'm going to come back to that one.
(12:39):
But Kendall, I know that you've got farming interests in
South Canterbury. You're based in Christchurch. What's your connection with
the Angus breed?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Look, the Angus breed goes back a long way in
our family as a farm's one hundred and twelve years
in the family this year, and my grandfather was an
Angus breeding member in the sixties. We Fiscalus cattle, you know,
in the late fifties, and then my uncle's been an
ex chairman and life member of Angus New Zealand. So
(13:08):
he since passed away, but so a real connection there,
a love for black cattle.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The World Angus Forum held over the past two days.
Was it exciting? It was.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
It's been well over that. The formal part of It's
been two days here in Brisbane, but it started in Tamworth.
They did a farm tour and then there was the
Angus Youth Teams. They had twelve youth teams competing over
last weekend in various farming type attributes and beef and
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you know, stopped judging, so it was evenly. Was really good.
We had the prize giving yesterday and I came across
on Tuesday with our chairman and general manager and we
had the Angus World the World Angus Secretariat, so that's
the formal part of We're twenty six countries I think,
(14:08):
had a formal meeting and updates around you know, what's
happening in the industry and country updates. So I presented
that on behalf of Angus New Zealand. I'm probably ahead
of the conference.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Sorry, I'm probably asking the wrong person here, but is
Angus the world's number one beef breed?
Speaker 10 (14:25):
Yes it is, Yes, it is. I think we're certainly
the dominant. I don't know the percentage genetics globally, but
it's sort of up in the well over fifty percent.
In New Zealand. We had some data that angus genetics
were influencing around sixty four percent of the New Zealand
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beef heard so you know that will have grant.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now the calf styles are just coming to an end
here in this country. Huge money's being paid for beef calfs,
notably angus, and of course we're heading into the ball
selling season and i'd imagine some big, big money's going
to be paid for some of those big black angus balls.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
Yes, this is definitely the association our members. It's probably
why you know there would have been more in Australia.
I thank you for this work for them, but it's
right on ball sellings. It's just starting to get underway
and it pushes through May and June and into July.
So yeah, very much the business end of the breeding
(15:30):
season and you know, angus is the last two seasons
have been stellar in New Zealand and you know, fingers crossed,
it's another good year. The beef industries doing really well.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Tell me a bit about your background other than an
interest in farming in South Canterbury and being vice president
of Angus New Zealand, you're a director of a business
advisory firm called Pivot and Pace and you spent thirty
years in the military. Does that discipline come in handy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, it does.
Speaker 10 (16:00):
I sort of did eighteen years as a regular army
officer and then I've been since been in the reserve
and definitely around leadership and development and decision making and
strategic thinking. Yes, it's pay well, I've probably got me
the opportunities I have. But my business partner at gregle
Not and I am coved and Pace. It's a sort
of specialist consultancy working around strategy. Our call businesses around
(16:25):
the implementation of strategy. So the bit where you actually
do something, Jamie and we do a bit of leadership
coaching and that sort of leads me into some of
the directorships I've had. And I'm pretty passionate about governance too.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I hope you don't do too much of that management
speak gobbledy, you know, using words like process, outcomes and
my favorite, I hate it learnings. Tell me you don't
do that, Kendal.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
I don't do that, Jamil. I would never use something
like seamless transition because every time someone said that it's
been a complete nightmare.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It reminds me of when we get a email and
someone has left the business. They're looking for new opportunities
and brackets that have been gassed. Anyhow, Hey Kendall Leston
out of Brisbane. I hope you recover well from a
couple of days at the World Angus Forum. Safe travels home.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
Thanks you much, Jomielve we talk, Yes, good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Too, Thank you, Kendall. Yes, management gobbledygook. Sometimes people send
text to well, I've got a text here that arrived
this morning. I think it was meant for the HOSK,
not me. Mike, your interview with Mark Robertson is a
great demonstration to kids on why you shouldn't take meth
(17:42):
and it was. I listened to it this morning. Did
you listen to it, Michelle.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
I caught the very end of it, but I don't
remember that part of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, it's sort of like I said yesterday when they
announced their loss. I could make comment on it, but
I would be what were the words I was thinking of?
Cruel and unshowed veritable if I did. And then I
read something on the Herald. I think it was by
Gregor Paula to see if I can drag it up
on my phone. And then I thought, it's no wonder
(18:11):
they're losing money. Yeah, here it is here, So this
is end z are blessed. They're cotton socks. An example
of where money might have been spent without a strong
enough case. And I remember this from last year. The
All Blacks were able to take seven extra players to
Japan to bolster their thirty six man squad, which came
(18:34):
at an estimated total cost of about four hundred and
fifty thousand, split between wages, flights, and accommodation. It's in
the Herald. You want to read this story. But when
you've got thirty six in a rugby team, you don't
need another seven. There's plenty to go around. I'm sure
the original thirty six would be probably keen for a
bit more game time. I mean, you just wonder if
(18:57):
it was their own My litmus test shell is if
it's your own company, would you spend it?
Speaker 11 (19:02):
Yeah, that's true. And also I wonder in the old
days did they take that many players Jacks.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, they took thirty for instance, Wilson winner A took
thirty to the UK, and did they go to Ireland,
your Uko Island and France. But they were away for
four months.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
It was a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
And they also used to play Saturday Wednesday Saturday and
guys like Colin needs the Great Pine Tree. He was
angry if he was dropped for a Wednesday game. Also
in this excellent story in The Herald, I'm sounding like
a cheerleader for the Herald today. The red Flag expense, though,
is the twelve million that has been pumped into content
(19:42):
into the content hub NZR Plus. This is sort of
their media arm of the All Blacks. Media companies across
New Zealand are genuinely bewildered, including the one that we're
working for, about what exactly the money's been spent on
is there's little or nothing to show for it in
terms of or quality. And all I can see that's
(20:02):
come out of Insta Plus's sort of media prevention. The
All Blacks aren't available to the mainstream media because they're
hogging them for instr Plus, which no one's digesting at
all anyhow. Yeah, I think they need to I think
they need a bit of a shakeup to be perfectly honest.
(20:23):
Up next Chris Brandolino from Newer Before the End of
the Hour, Dunk and Hum on deer farming and ge
the ge Bill. He's got some strong feelings on that one.
And Jason Walls, our political editor, on polls, pay equity
and the social Media Bill. As we go Country on
the Country on the radio station.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
On All green Land Beach Bakish DC Seniorita bending down
in pantom.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
No you can't beat the country twang? Is this is
this Sloop Combs Yep, yep, She's given me the thumbs up.
It is when it rains at pause. That's a good
song to lead into. A weather man from Newa Chris Branderlin,
Are you a big country music fan? Because I think
our new country music station what started today on iHeartRadio
was on on FM frequency in Auckland.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Am I a bad person if I say no, Jamie Well, I.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Would have thought everyone in America loved country music? Or
is it only the billy bobs in the middle bit.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Look, I don't want to say anything effective because you know,
to reach their own, but let's just say it's.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Not my jam Okay, weather, weather forecasting is your jam.
It just keeps training in some places.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
Including today, ye look for those listening in the Upper
North Island, watch out for really heavy rain. I think
this afternoon early evening for Northland, Auckland, Wakato, we're getting
some much easy rain by the way in Tetanaki, so
that's good news even down into the Vanahua two. But
this is you know, this rain extends at the top
(22:15):
of the South Island as well into eventually I think
water wrap but making the drop of rain, but more
likely the heavier stuff on the other side of the ranges,
the other side of the tatar Ruvers. And then well
there's some rain and cooler temperatures down into your neck
of the woods. All that clears some of that rain.
By the way, Upper North Island could be heavy, maybe
a localized flash flooding. But once that gets out of here,
(22:36):
we are studying the stage for a pretty good I
guess next few days it will be cooler. So Mother's
Day is of course Sunday, and that looks to be
a pretty good day pretty much country wide. And then
as we look into the new week, we'll start to
see some rain. You move on to the west coast
of the South Island, Fjordland and Lower Southland usual suspects.
(22:58):
Maybe this time next week, Jamie, we could see another
system lurking from the north. We'll see if that does
impact the upper North Island. But if it doesn't, we
would see more dry weather. So I do think once
we get through today, is what I'm trying to say,
we should see successive days of dry weather. Cool off
a little bit for the weekend, but not too bad.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Hey, yeah, what's the outlook like for the rest of May?
Because a mild May sits farmer is up nicely for
the winter.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
Yeah, mild May. So I think whether why are the
outlook for May? Is we're expecting temperatures basically to be
average or above average for much of the country. That
will be the theme. I do think we could be
looking at potentially a cool spell or say a cold
snap as we work our way into maybe the third
week of May, so twentieth, twenty, first, twenty second somewhere
(23:51):
in there. So that could be a period where we
find some frost. But I think what will happen after that.
It looks like as we approach the last couple of
days May thirtieth and thirty first, we'll see temperatures warm up,
and that's probably a theme Jamie, where Yeah, we do
see these periods of cool temperatures, even chili temperatures, but
they don't last very long, and I think that will
(24:11):
kind of repeat itself throughout the upcoming winter season. And
that's a consequence. It doesn't look very cold for winter now.
We haven't issued our Winter Outlooked since you were a
friend of the family, Jamie. As well as the country,
we think that we're leading towards certainly a warmer than
average period through July. A lot of north and northeast
wins more than the usual, and that will increase the
odds for big rain events. I do hear the country
music queuing up, so that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Means I need to go good on you, Chris. You
have enjoy your weekend, you two buddy Chris, Briandolena from
theywere Yeah, the country music is queuing up. We do
need to move on some of your ticks coming in
about in z it are love your comments on n
z RF you. This must be from an older text
they haven't They known as the in z RF you
(24:53):
for quite a wild Texter God bless you. It's not
called the Kremlin for nothing. That's honestly a bit like that.
And as I say, the chief executive was on with
the host this morning and it was just gobbledygook, just gobbledygook. Anyhow,
we'll take a break. Maybe I'm old school. We'll take
(25:14):
a break. We're going to do rural news and sports news.
We're gonna have a chat to dunk and hum about
deer farming and the gee bill and Jason Wall's a
political editor to wrap the week for us here on
the country.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
When more, oh why rains it?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Will it?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Lecto?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
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Speaker 11 (25:57):
To brighten your mood. Get what I did there, Janie, No, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
We have to listen to this. This is this sort
of like a cow pun bit of a pun ya.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
So one of the country's most successful cows is the
second mother inducted into the Livestock Hall of Fame Meander
if Am I known as April, as being recognized for
her influence on the dairy sector after producing over one
hundred offspring. Man, that's a lot of calves, isn't it.
The average dame has five, so that's huge. Selection manager
(26:26):
Simon Worth says April's produced twenty five balls that are
being used to breed the next generation of dairy cow.
Some mothers don't even have one of those.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
How can she have one hundred calves?
Speaker 11 (26:37):
I don't know. She's either old or that's a lot
not at once.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Jami, obviously I know that, but you might want to
check that story. So there you go. That's slightly dodgy
rural news with Michelle.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
Is that you're lot, well, one hundred offspring, So I
guess you could say that it's more that she hasn't
had the calves. That could be like the offspring the offspring,
like counting up, betting up right, let's just get out of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
This with an AFCO kiwi to the bone. Since nineteen oh.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Four, it's been confirmed that Auckland FC won't be moving
to Eden Park for the A League Men's Final series.
And they'll stay at Mount Smart Stadium. Discussions occurred over
whether the football club should shift to the biggest Sandringham arena,
i Eden Park, but the governing body which takes the
gate has opted to put extra seating at Penrose instead,
(27:27):
which is Mount Smart. Now I love this story. He
might have heard this one at the top of the house.
Some early controversy has Let me just bubble Morgan Wollen
in the background, because I like that. Some early controversy
has emerged in the papacy of the first American pontiff,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, who was born in Chicago. Reports
(27:51):
that the new head of the Catholic Church is a
Cubs baseball fan have been contradicted by his brother John.
He says his bling is a White Sox disciple. That's
cleverly written anyhow. But wait, there's more. The household was
allegedly split of their mum rooted for the Cubs and
their dad, ironically enough supported wait for it, the Saint
(28:16):
Louis Cardinals. What a great irony that is. That's your
sports news up next, dunkan h. I'm talking deer farming
in the ge bill talking about.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
You, Confrey Jing most love.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Alrightio, we got to the bottom of the dairy cow
that's had one hundred calves. I was confused. I wasn't
listening to be fair Embryo Transport transplants, you silly buggers.
Thank you for that rather well direct direct text. Well done. Yeah,
we wasn't thinking about that, but I was only half
listening to Michelle. I was pre reading the sports news
(29:03):
about which Chicago Baseball side the new pope, Pope Leo
the fourteenth supporter. And anyhow, we've got to the bottom
of that mystery. Duncan hum is a mid Canterbury dairy farmer,
is also the guy behind the NZ Farming Facebook page.
New opportunities for Venison. Did you hear me talking to
(29:24):
Kendall Langston about new opportunities and what that means in
the corporate world? Duncan Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Hopefully we're not talking the same thing, because I quite
like my job, and yeah, I know it would be
quite disappointing to I have to go and find new
opportunities elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well, I quite like my job because I'd hate to
do a proper one. It would be too hard to
work at my age. Anyhow, Duncan so what are these
new opportunities for venison, because we're going to run out
of there shortly. I see we're down to where's my
livestock numbers were down to what seven hundred and nine
thousand deer? We used to have them close to a million.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, it's quite frightening that And yeah, obviously some critical
mass issues come into play when the numbers do dwindle.
But yeah, there's been a lot cropping for quite a
while actually in the background, always looking for new markets
and stuff for Venison, venison products, obviously looking for things
to do like nose to tail for that whole animal good.
(30:27):
Example is the company we supply sends venison to a
company called Force Nature Meats in the USA, and they're
doing things. They've got a mince product that's also got
organ meat in it, and that's an absolute flying off
the shelves and selling for bloody good money. So that
makes good use of months. And then yeah, also offul
(30:51):
that used to go to stuff like pet food and
that sort of thing, which is hard hard to get
good liable money for.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Okay, duncan, what do you dare firm get paid at
the moment for a kilo of venison.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I think the last time I sent stuff was Bear
in mind that's sort of low point of the season.
I think we're about nine fifty akilo.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think so you're just a wee bit more expensive
than lamb on a per kilo basis. Why is venison
so expensive and almost hard to obtain like in our supermarkets?
I know that silver Fern Farms, to their credit, do
a wonderful venison package, but it's not cheap. Why isn't
venison cheaper? Why aren't you guys having a crack at
the domestic market? Because I think if people got the
(31:32):
opportunity to get venison at a reasonable price, they would
love it because it's just a magnificent meat.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I mean it is great. Well silver Fern have done
in the domestic market with their monthsity I do it
does call us a bit when you see it what
we get paid and the difference between what it is
on the shelf for the people who want to eat it.
That said, I'll give a wee shadout to Merchant the Venison,
which is local company here in Canterbury. You can buy
(32:02):
it online and are pretty reasonable. They supply a lot
of restaurants and stuff around Canterbury as well. So yeah,
it's around, but yeah, i'd love it for to be
less of a gap between what we get paid and
what the consumer pays.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What a great name for a company, the Merchant of Venison,
very clever play on words. Okay, I want to talk
to you about two things. The ge bill you're dead
against that, and then the Paris Accord. You're dead against
us staying in there. Now we'll start with the Paris Accord.
I'm hearing whispers that a collaboration poll across the Methane
(32:37):
Science Accord, Groundswell and NZ Farming is going to put
out some numbers around Paris and they're not going to
be good for staying in.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah. Well, it's always interesting, you know, when you see online.
Obviously I work around on digital most of the time
rather than newspapers and whatnot. But yeah, it's always interesting
what you have, the gut feeling you get reading online
from people, what they thoughts are. And so we had
a pretty good idea what most grassroots farmers and people
(33:11):
who eat food think, and so we decided we'd try
and put some data around that because it's a bit
hard to get sort of like a unsiloed survey from you,
like an industry group does it or something like that.
So it's hard to get some good numbers and some
good data. So yeah, we decided to get together and
put a pole out and yeah, some good data coming
(33:34):
and watch what's.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Your margin of EA or is this just going to
be the disfranchised photo.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Quite what a margin of ERA is. But obviously we've
all got some pretty vague audiences or people in our community.
So we've had I'm quite sure what they're sitial numbers,
but yeah, close to something like fifteen hundred responses so
to a ten keen question survey.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Okay, well wait that and just a quick final comment
from you on the ge bell. Do you think from
a deer farmer's point of view anyhow, that we're going
down the wrong track and pursuing this.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Ah, well, we're really lucky. We're real closely connected to
the people who literally pick the stuff off the shelves
in the States and eat it and what they want.
And that joker from their sales and or something from
Agrazero the other day was saying that Whole Foods are
talking about carbon tunnel vision, but certainly from Whole foods
(34:32):
and people who buy from Force and Nature in the States.
They're not telling us that at all. They are interested
about soil health, healthy food and unbastardized food from additives
and gmo stuff. Venison. We've already got a sign a
declaration that they haven't had any gmo feeds or anything
in their lifetime already. So we've been doing that for years.
(34:55):
And yeah, we could be it in the ship really.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Overhead.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well that's a that's a nice direct way of stating it.
Dunk and got to go because I've got to go
to Jason Walls. Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward
to your poll in association with the methane science according
Groundswell on the Paris Agreement. We'll see you later.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yep, no worries.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
There we go, Dunk and hum. They've got a big
following too, to be fair on NZ Farming Facebook page.
You're going to take a break Jason Walls to wrap
it actually before we go to Jason Walls, just in
case I forget from Farm Strong. That's another five on
the trot from us talking about shows me being actually
here for five days in a row has been a
(35:38):
nice change. Speaking of five farm strongs five ways to
well Being as simple daily habits that you can use
to improve your well being and relieve stress and pressure.
For more tips and resources about managing the ups and
downs of farming, head to farmstrong dot co dot nz
and see what works for you and on behalf of
the country and the folks at farm Strong you have
a grand weekend will bid you for well again. After
(36:02):
Jason Walls. Okay, my goodness, my effort. Let's wrap it
with Jason Walls our political edit. Jason, we've got a
text and and you're a much brighter man than me
and your fingers on the pulse. And the question was,
(36:24):
what's the difference between pay equity and equal pay? Do
you know the answer to that one?
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Oh, listen, May, I was hoping you were going to
put it on this as well with something like that.
To be honest, no, I don't. And I think a
lot of that comes down to the fact that this
is actually quite complex, this whole situation, and there is
some legal definitions behind that question as well, So I
wouldn't want to lead anybody in all.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Right, Okay, well we'll try and figure that one out
by this time next week. Audrey Young and the Herald
said the pay equity ambush is the word she used,
will come back to bite the nets. Do you think
it will? Oh?
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I absolutely. I mean all you have to do is
look around the tree today and see there's people protesting
outside various minister and MP's places across New Zealand. I
think that the opposition and the unions have done a
really good job in stirring up sort of their supporters
to rally against this legislation and expect it to be
drawn upon as we go into the budget as well,
(37:19):
with the main it being one of the main, if
not the main attack line from the opposition.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, maybe not that popular. The social media proposal, it's
quite popular, especially with parents. I've got like thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Well, I mean the problem with this one is that
it's actually not going to come into a force in
force because it's a government member's bill. If they really
wanted to get it across the line, they should have
done it as a government bill, which means that they
could just do it in the House. This way, they
have to wait for it to be pulled from the
biscuit tin. So if you want to see this one coming,
don't hold your breath because it's a slim slim chance
of it happening anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Hi, Jason Wills, thank you very much for your time
wrapping the Country for this week. YEP and farm Strong
go and check it out farm strong dot co dot
nz and see what works for you and Locket and
Eddie will catch you back on Monday. How good is
that Chiefs Crusaders game going to be tomorrow night? See
you Monday.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
Last Day.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
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