May 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Shane Jones, Jason Te Brake, Chris Brandolino, Kane Brisco, and Rowena Duncum.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I sleep like a baby. I ever show a lame
through work. I don't game with ski.
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I don't know how it feels occurt Holy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Since you say goodbye, wish I could say a mess
you rod Nor one never Lies. Yes, the song is
called I Never Lie by Zach number one and the
iHeart Top thirty Country Songs and a new country station
here at ens in Me, chosen by Michelle As we
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go Country on the Country on a Friday. I'm Jamie McKay.
I guess this is a nice segue into our first guest.
The song is I Never Like? Can we say that
of the Prince of the province is the self titled Martuur.
Yesterday he got stuck into the Greens during the budget debate.
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But should he who has sinned? Cast the first stone?
Matua Shane on fossil fuel energy and other things. Very
very shortly, Jason to Braak, we missed him yesterday. Excuse me,
Chief executive of Zespriy, what a great result. Five billion
for the first time in global sales for our single
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desk sella. What a great job the Kiwi fruit industry
is doing. Chris Brandolino on an Indian summer that's heading
on into winter. Caine Briscoe this month's farmstrong farmer and champion,
well known Taranaki CALCOCKI an author of the best selling
book Tools for the Top Paddock and talking about paddocks.
One woman who's been in some very big ones. I
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think one was about thirty thousand acres. Rowena Dunkam our
commercial rural leaders just arrived back in the country late
last night or was it early this morning after taking
a touring group to some beautiful big farms and out
back Australia. Were going to get her take on what
she saw. Some really interesting take homes from her. But
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up next areas the Princes of the province. Is just
to lighten up your Friday weiskime.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't know how it dels.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Since you said goodbye. Wish I could say an.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Old dgin.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I never love Budget twenty twenty five. While the highlight
for me, without a doubt was some glorious baiting of
the greens from Marta Shane Jones, the Prince of the
province is Shane. You had poor old Chloe fizzing at
the bung.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Someone gave me a nineteen sixty nine bottle of mar
Week gold oil and I stood up and I invited
the greens to sniff it. And I said to Chloe figuratively,
it's not the roses. Wake up and smell the oil.
That's your near term, long term future.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And then you got stuck into over wind powered energy.
You said, we can match it with wind, but we
don't want your mung been pronoun version of wind. Do
you sit at home and make up these wei one
liners or do they come straight into your head?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, they're like a reservoir. They're like a sort of
sitting on a library shelf and subject to being alert enough,
I just pluck them back off the shelf. But sometimes
I don't know where they come from. They just materialize it.
It always worked, but most times they get a giggle
and they help define you in a political market.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Minds you you did have moments of contrition. You talked
about the worst decision made in the history of our nation,
delivered by Jasinda Adirn, supported by Meghan. I'm presuming that's
Meghan Woods and sadly acquiesced by the good Martua and
that's when you banned the search for natural gas or
banned the industry basically.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, So that's why the two hundred million dollars that
are we got and announced as a form of atonement
for that that wayward decision that I was wrapped up on.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, you've been involved in a few way with decisions until.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Sun nothing rival said. Of course, there's the ongoing madness
of climate change. And I also said in the speech
that under the United Nations, we're allowed to exempt ourselves
from a lot of this climate change sort of overreach
because we're a food producing nation and our political campaign
next year is going to be built all around that.
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So shouldn't he and be paying anything for food producing
out of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I wouldn't argue with you there. Are you going
to stay? Are you in Winston going to campaign strongly
on getting out of Paris?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well, the first thing we're going to do is going
to seek a mandate from KIWIS because obviously other political
parties are very very nervous about the main parties about
walking away from Paris. But New Zealand first, we're not
going to stay in the position that we are. The
extent that we kick it on the backside and get
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rid of it all together is going to depend on
our next electoral result. But we're not campaigning for the
status quo. We believe that the high tide has come
and gone. There's a report that was put out by
an excellent lady called Nicholas Shedbolg. Sadly she was elbowed
out of the Climate Commission by the Zealots over the
last year or two. We have a great deal of
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confidence in that lady, academic from Messi University, and she's
saying that for short lived gases, do we go at
twenty four percent or fourteen percent? New Zealand person is
toying with the idea of execpting the entirety of short
short lived gases for in terms of agriculture.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What did you make of the key elements of the
budget changes to key we say, and I'm thinking, if
you're earning one hundred and eighty grand, you don't need
another five hundred dollars per annum from the government. In fact,
Shane I were to put the threshold much lower than that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, well we're making you know, we're making what obviously
our steps to shrink the size of the entitlements that
the state offers to you and I as citizens. David
Seymour wants us to go a lot further. We have
to be respectful of Nikola. She's sort of taking a
more of an incremental approach. But we've got our budget
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next year and there's another opportunity. As I see in
the budget speech, there's going to be more cuts, and
there has to be because the state has ended up
elbowing the private sector out of the way and occupying
positions in your our society where it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I did like the new investment boost tax credit for
businesses where you can can deduct twenty percent of a
new assets value and that is on top of the
annual depreciation. Minds you, Shane, it does remind me of you,
and you're of a similar generation to me. Back in
the day when I left university, a lot of my
young farmer mates were all buying hold and utes and
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the reason they were doing it through the farm is
they would get a forty percent investment allowance off the
top and then they could depreciate it after that cost
them next to nothing. Are we going to see any
of that.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh look, the eye idea will be watching anyone gaining
the system. But I'm hopeful that in my beloved fishing
and mining industry, and not only will certainly at fishing,
sorry of mining, if it's oil and gas, I'll have
access to the two hundred million if they've got a
decent deal and they can expense at twenty percent capital investments,
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and that's going to really turbocharge I'm quite frankly. It's
those kinds of investments and incentives that's going to help
people to move more to capital efficiency, and that's a
better response to coping with weather. This notion of climatism
closing down the economy, that's hoax politics.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Talking about climate change and making the planet a better place.
You're off to Marsden Point. There's a rich irony in
this to open a solar farm.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, So at one level, I have to At one level,
I have to respect the fact that we own the
gent tailors fifty one percent. They're spending taxpayers resources and
the sense that it's partly a taxpayer owned company and
the private sector. But I do see an ongoing place
for Marsden Point importing diesel, so that can run a
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diesel peaker power station at Marsden Point and shrink the
cost of energy. But I've now realized that it's impossible
to rely on these gent tailors over time to give
us more secure energy and cheaper energy the short term
market and that keeps the prices high. And we're about
to get a major report over the next month from
some Aussie consultants and then the government's going to make
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a call as to what changes we make to the
energy markets. Now you know that, Winstone. I we campaign
on major changes, including splitting up the gent tailor's and
ensuring that it's a long term future for oil, coal
and gas to keep the lights on. I think that
I'm winning that debate.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hey, I just want to finish with another one of
your one liners from the House yesterday and the budget debate.
A bit of Coalition advice. If you want for Labor
you said this, I would say to Labor, I need
to give you speed dial relationship advice. And my advice
to mister Hipkins is you're going to have to kiss
a lot of frogs before you find the prince. Were
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you referring to yourself? Were you offering your services to Chippy.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I did say I'm wearing a red tie. Remind you
what could have been. No, I was saying to them,
you kiss the wrong frog, Chippy, and you yourself will croak.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well he's kissing a green frog.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well mate, that frog is actually a tadpole without leggs,
and it's distorted, misshapen, and sadly it's in the wrong
country because it doesn't believe. And kiwi's aspiring to be wealthy,
or kiwi's making their own children lunch to take to school.
They've fed this appetite and this toxic diet of not
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only victimhood but dependability, and they are now depending and
becoming reliant on the state to an extent. We cannot
afford it to go back to the old values. You
have kids, you get off your momal, your backside, and
you raise them. And if you are on the dole
and you are not prepared to work like other Kiwis,
then we're not going to pay you to maintain a misshapen,
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very dangerous lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well spoken Matoa, Shane John's Prince of the Provinces, Thanks
as always for you time on the country. Take care
of me, Yes, Shane Jones are here on the country
eighteen after twelve texts coming in Shane Nuclear. I think
that's a compliment. Who likes the Prince of the province
of Shane Jones and what he says.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Another text and from Jeff you can get us on
five double nine by the way south pumping. He's talking
about the southern end of New Zealand. Here Fonterra tanker
driver said, still picking up five million. What's five million?
That must be liters I'm assuming compared to three point
five million last year. That can't be daily. I don't know.
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I'll do some resend your text check and Jeff and
give me some context around those numbers. But what he's
sort of saying is there's a real Indian summer happening
down south and they having a really good end to
the season. Of course the North Island was quite dry.
We're going to go a bit later in the hour
to a Taranakid dairy farmer by the name of Cain Briscoe.
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He's a farmstrong champion. He wrote the book best selling
book Tools for the Top Paddock. Looking forward to seeing
how his top paddock dealt with the drought in that
region this year. But up next it's Kiwi Fruit, chief
executive of zest Prey Jason to Break, And before I
forget very excited here in the studio, I've got a
chainsaw from Still. It's Still Chainsaw Safety Awareness Sneak Weeks
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you can do that before the end of the hour.
Up next, Jason to Break.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Tread when I was twelve on a ne Jab tractor,
holding in Bilson's bagging in Brds Lendlanes, running burg dogs.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Do the George of markets and stand side Cabrigandy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You want a good news story, then let's talk Key
we Fruit. Jason to Break is the chief executive of Zestree.
Sorry for missing you on yesterday's show. Jason, we've got
you today. Where do we start the industry topping five
billion and global sales for the first time ever.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Yeah, I mean, obviously we've put in probably a decade
of investing heavily and a strong brand in the market
creating demand, and also our growers and our post harvest
through New Zealand have made sure that we focus on
quality and delivering qualities of the market. So five billion
sales is a huge milestone for us to get to,
but it's come down to probably a decade of hard
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work and investment to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's interesting when you say a decade of hard work
and investments. Someone had the wisdom way back in twenty fifteen,
ten years ago to set a goal of four point
five billion by twenty twenty five. Normally these forecasts just
a bit of a stab in the dark, but they
got this one pretty good and you've exceeded it.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Yeah, obviously there was a vision about how we would
go through pretty good growth on the back of particularly
sun Gold, also resting heavily to make sure we have
a strong brand and good demand in the market for
our fruit, and it's been great. You know, the industries
really work together to make sure we're able to deliver that.
And also we've been able to see in the market
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consumers moving water towards health conscious and natural nutrition diets,
so it's been positive for us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Why has can we fruit green made a bit of
a comeback because I assumed it would eventually be made
totally redundant by gold.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
There's still quite a reasonable amount of consumers out there
that want to buy based on the health attributes of
green obviously around the fiber content, and it's good for digestion,
so that you do still get a good consumer base
out there. And we've been able to list the value
in the market just to make sure that we keep
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ahead of our costs on orchard and for our supply
chain as well.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I see there's a meaningful premium for organic. And if
I'm looking at sun Gold, for instance, your biggest player,
final return for the season just being not the season
we're in now eleven dollars eighty one portray for the
sun Gold plane stuff or traditional stuff, whatever the terminology is.
But for the organic you're getting fifteen dollars twenty that's
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a sizeable premium.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Yeah, we've seen good growth in the organic category around
the world at the moment actually, and also good value
on the back of that. Japan's always been a pretty
strong market for US there, but in the recent years
we've seen both the US and also some of our
northern European markets have really picked up, you know, France,
Germany already getting more focus around organic fruit as well.
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So we've got a good demand before ganick around the world.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
At the moment, Zesbury's non New Zealand supply sales this
is the stuff I'm assuming you're growing in the Northern
Hemisphere have performed very well as well. Twenty six point
five million trays out of what your total production this
year was two hundred and twenty million trays, So that's
an excess of ten percent of your total crop is
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now grown elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Yeah, that's right, and ultimately we think we've been growing
offshore for close to twenty years now we're starting to
see that list and productivity and also with a successful
producer boat last year where the industry supported our view
around growing more fruit off shore, we'll see that continue
to arise in the future as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How are you meeting the demand for Keywi fruit licenses,
because you can't just decide to be a Kiwi fruit farmer,
You've got to buy a license to be able to produce.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, so we're looking at how we make sure we
keep the command a head of supply, so making sure
that we build demand in the market well ahead of
about what we can supply, and then we release license
both for our New Zealand grower base with our license
release each season, but also when we're licensing for offshore production,
to make sure that as we build more demand, the
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supply is keeping up with that, but not getting ahead
of demand as well.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, this final question on your profitability. Your net profit
was one hundred and fifty five million, down from one
hundred and seventy three million, driven mainly by what you
just talked about before, reduced license revenue from a reduction
and available heck the iss and you're dead right keep
demand ahead of supply. It's economics one oh one.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yeah, that's right. And if you think about the profit
of estree, we're essentially make some profit on essentially being
able to sell the fruit both from New Zealand and
also offshore, and then the other profit is off the
license release. So where she saw an increase in our
profitability from our fruit supply business because we sold more
fruit at more value and we also really focus on
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our cost now overhead to try and keep those low.
The other side which was offset was the license We
released less license in that year because we just try
to take a bit of a slowdown while we let
our supply chain invest in future infrastructure. But since then
we've actually started to increase the license release as well.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So in the dairy industry, we talk about a ten
dollar payout, it will be this year, might even be
a wee bit better than that, and then the prospect
maybe ten dollars in the coming season for the fruit
that's currently coming off now or has come off this season,
it's next season effectively, in terms of returns, what are
you predicting more levels? Will prices stay at these elevated levels.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
I mean, that's the aim where we're striving pretty hard
to try and make sure we keep it similar levels.
What we're seeing is a slightly more trickier environment out
there at the moment, particularly through Asia, with a little
bit less confidence in the market. But we've had a
pretty strong start. We're about a core of the way
through our song Gold volume already and Ruby Red's done
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and dusted with a really good result. So look, you
know it's early days, but we're pretty happy for the
start and also just making sure we work through to
try and get his best return we can for our growers.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Jason to Break, chief executive of Zest pre see you
at field days.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Great Billy were a pair.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
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Speaker 1 (21:32):
Drive around and do you wear it on?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You see the cheap indeed down Union, I would change
my mind. I'm as we just found, but I still
love ruck Rule Houcky all in the floor.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So we mix it up a bit here on the
Country Going Country on a Friday. Picked it off with
I Never Lie by Zach Zach Michelle's wandered and is
Zach is the only Zach Zach top? Oh Zach top? Yeah,
because I need to do some pre reading, Zach top. See,
I thought you meant he was the top number one.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I know.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I checked that three or four times to make sure
I hadn't misunderstood that too, So don't worry.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You could have done with two tops there. And how
Zach top I Never Lie is number one on our
iHeart Country station. This is old style country from Charlie
Rich I reckon. Our next guest would be a big
country music fan because he's from the home of country music,
the USA. Chris Brandolino from Neway. Are you a big
Charlie Rich fan?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Chris negative?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Negative? Okay, Well let's get let's talk about something that
excites you. You sound so you sounded so deflated? Look
down south here we're headed. Were still in an Indian summer?
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Well, now listen, I'm going to break out the purest
juice here.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Now, NBA summer. If you're a purist, it's a Native
American term, so that's the origins. And technically Indian summer
is the first spell of unusually warm weather. But after
your first frost, Jamie, you got to have your first frost.
So if you had a frost, and it's an usually
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warm tick. If not, if you're going to be a purist,
then that's a different No.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, we've had we've had frost down here, so I
ticked that box.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Okay, good, well, not everyone has, but it's making sure.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So I was looking at the old Lagward Drought Indix
map earlier this morning in preparation to speak to who
I'm going to check to Nick's Cane, Briscoe and Taranaki,
and I see nowhere in the countries and uh and
drought or and soil moisture deficit nor should it be
at the time of the year.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Yeah, well you're you're I'll give you half credit partial credit. Look, uh,
there is not and there isn't any meteorological drought, so correct,
well done. However, if you look at the soil and
moisture map and look at where the soils are unusually
dry for the time of year late May now just
about much of the Waikato, southeastern Tananaki, the Menawatu King Country,
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basically between Mount rupe Whu and say Palmiston north. Between
that zone that is where the soils are unusually dry.
Also in your neck of the woods, my friend down
in Dunners down toward east to the eastern far eastern
Southland and far as southern Otago. Yep, there's some usually
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dry soils there. So not everywhere, but unfortunately the Waikato
is still dealing with dryness as a southeast Tananaki. And
as we know, Jamie, even though dryness and drought can
end the effects of dryness and drought can certainly persist
much longer.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes, we do need some good winter rainfalls to reach
out the sub soil a mond. You farmers in the
deep South, they know it's going to get wet down here,
so they welcome the dry soils while they're still standing above. Look, Okay,
what do we got very quickly for the next three, four, five,
six seven days.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Well, basically a quiet start to the weekend, so dry
weather apart from a few wide showers along the west coast.
Usual suspects that'll really increase on Sunday quite frankly, and
a few spits of rain on Sunday, I suppose across
the upper North On but we're literally talking spits of
rain a bar from say the Quorum Mantle. It could
be a proper shower there. And then as you look
ahead into Monday, the new week, there will be some
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there'll be rain falling Sunday night to Monday, a proper
rain for the west of the South Island as well
as Lower Southland. We'll get a good drop of rain
that looks like a decent rainfalls Sunday night in to Monday,
and that band of rain moves north, so that'll impact Tandanaka,
the affore mentioned Tandanaki region, lower North Island, as well
as parts of the y coott So probably later on
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Monday and especially Monday night, pretty good low comes in
from the Tasman Sea Tuesday, and because it's to our west,
we're going to be dipping into some pretty warm temperatures.
So more rain is like probably Tuesday night and especially
Wednesday for a good chunk of a country. So expect
that midweek rain. But again it's gonna be unusually warm
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and there'll be some pretty good Nordallies and Northwesterlies with
that too, especially North Island with that second round of
way brain. He said, middle next week and then it
basically remains unusually warm for a good chunk of the
week next week. This time next week, Jamie, I'll be
able to share our winter outlook, so get ready for that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I can hardly sleep waiting and anticipation. Chris, thank you
for Itzan. I appreciate it, my pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
They good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Then we got Chris Brandeleno from Nwell, we're gonna take
a break Michelle's and here we'll do a rural news
and sports news for you. And I think I might
have given the answer to the still Chainsaw safety awenas
question week question about what was on the safety pack
before the end of the air Caine Briscoe and Taranaki
and Rowena Duncan back from the aussiel Pack Musive Welcome
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back to the country. Here is Michelle Watt with the
latest and a rural.
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Speaker 8 (27:21):
For your local stockist and Rabobank have released a report
on the milk price forecast for the twenty twenty five
twenty twenty six dairy season. New Zealand dairy farmers can
expect a record opening milk price forecast for the twenty
twenty five twenty twenty sixth season, according to the report
by agribusiness banking specialist Rabobank. So apparently their base case
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expectation is for an opening farmgate milk price of around
nine dollars fifty kg per kage of milk solids for
the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season. And that's
assuming a spot exchange rate of US cents of zero
point five nine.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yep, well, we're about fifty nine cents at the moment.
That's they're always conservative. Emahiggins and the team from Rabobank,
so that's not a bad opening shot. Nine dollars fifty
From Rabobank's sport.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Sport, we're the hath Go Kiwi to the bone.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Since nineteen oh four, Michael Main's been rewarded with the
Football Ferns coaching job after an intense balancing act. He's
held the interim roll since a Yittka Kim Clover quit
in September. Main will guide the team to the twenty
twenty seven World Cup, starting with games against Venezuela in
Spain next month. And Herbie Farnworth, never heard of him,
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has revealed that twenty four hours before the Dolphins demolished
the ladder leading Bulldogs forty four to eight in League's Narl,
he was in Brisbane hospital hooked up to an intravenous
strip healing an infection around a leg cut. I wasn't
up to speed on that score. It's a great score, Michelle,
for the Warriors because the Bulldogs are the only team
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that's standing between them and the top of the table.
And of course we've got the Crusaders Highlanders tonight. You know,
I don't want to be blindly loyal to the Highlanders,
but they've we history are going up to christ Church
and causing an upset, let's hope. So up next to
Caine Briscoe, who used to be a rugby player of
note himself and the Taranaki. He's up next Monthly here
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on the country we catch up with the farm strong farmer.
In the case of this bloke, he's a farm strong champion.
His name is Caine Briscoe, Taranaki dairy farmer and author
of the best selling book Tools for the Top Paddock. Hey, kin,
I want to ask you this question to start with,
how's your top paddock after the drought this year in Taranaki.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, Jamie, it's I'm pretty good, to be honest, I've
there's nothing i haven't been through before, and I'm I'm
a big believer in approaching challenges with the right mindset
and that that gets you through going pretty good and
see well at the other end.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
So I'm pretty good to be fair.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I'm pretty proactive with our top padd of these days.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Mate. Well, so you should be. You're an expert in
the field. You're farming like twenty minutes north of New Plymouth.
I take it that that part of the Taranaki province
wasn't as badly affected as say that, you know, the
southern coastal region.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Wallet to get pretty dry here, Jamie, nothing compared to
coastal and South Taranaki. They got dryer a lot earlier
than us, and they had a dry summer and winter
last year as well, so they definitely copped it a
lot worse.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Now, you not only talk the talk, you walk the
walk because we're talking about looking after the top paddock,
and you're saying it's just like becoming physically fitter, you
can also learn mental skills that will make you mentally
stronger and more resilient. Now, how important, because I know
you're a bit of a fitness guru as well. How
important is physical fitness for mental health?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah, they go hand in hand with each other, Jamie.
I've always sort of said good mental fitness requires great
physical support. So all the things you need to do
to look after the top paddic, so to speak, require
physical actions and living a good physical life. So it's
really difficult to have one without the other.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
To be honest, these are lessons learned from the world
of elite sport, where literally being an elite sportsman can
play hell with your head. I don't know how the
professional golfers do it, but Farmstrong has this new mental
skills toolkit which is available online. It's not all touchy, fairly,
(31:38):
is it? Tell me? It's practical and down to earth
for the farmers.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
No, No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Made If I can do it, anyone can. I think
I'm a pretty typical Kiwi bloke. So now, it's very
easy to understand it. They take complex things and make
them very simple and easy to understand, so anyone can
do it. There's no quick fit, but it's really simple things.
It can be as little as five minutes a day.
(32:04):
But it's doing those little things consistently in building up
their toolkit over time that really makes the difference. So
really simple, really quick, really easy.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
You just need to stick at it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, what do you do?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
What do I do?
Speaker 9 (32:19):
So daily?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I try and be very physical with what I do.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Obviously, so some physical and physical activity that that's not
farm work. I always ride out some of the old
thoughts in the in the top of my head, but
you know, perhaps causing some frustrations. And also, you know,
(32:44):
socializing is really important, being part of the community and
your friends group, and I guess you're just trying to
maintain that perspective in life. Made I think that's one
of the keys.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Well, I remember back to my days as a farmer,
and that's going back a few years now, came, but
I remember, you know, so are you going through a
tough time. I was a sheep farmer in Southland. You'd
get a lambing storm and you would think that you
were being hit worse than any other farmer in the district.
But sometimes going into the pub on a Friday night,
whatever your area of choice is for gathering and talking
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to other people with similar problems. Just you know, a
problem shared is a problem. Halved I just and you
mentioned that getting off farm, having a life or a
hobby or a sport outside the farm, because if you're
just farming farming farming, it'll do your heading.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Absolutely, I've had exactly that scenario in my farming career
a couple of times. And you think you're the only one,
and you think you're the worst farmer in the New
Zealand or the district or whatever, and you feel like
a bit of a failure. But when you go out
and actually talk to other people, there's always someone else
that's got the same problems or in fact has it worse,
and that can really take a mental load off.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Absolutely, you're farming, dairy farming and Taranaki. Are you milking
on into the winter?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Cain at ten bark n No, we're still mooking at
the moment, but the end is drawing near, so we're
just the cold temperatures hit the NECKI so it won't
be too long and we'll be finishing up mate the
next next season.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You are a true farm strong champion, Caine Brisco, thanks
for your time today on the country.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, Jamie, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
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Speaker 9 (34:57):
That you're read with p.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well. I affectionately call her the hard dog to keep
on the porch. That's because she's never at home. She's
just come back from a ten day outback farming tour
of Australia with our travel Partner's SYS for Trevor. Owena
dunk came. I know you had a bit of a
long haul getting home, but you had a great tour.
You went to one place where some blokead a paddock
(35:24):
that was thirty thousand acres.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Oh no, right, hello.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Jamie, great to be with you.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
It honestly was the most amazing tour. And like I
knew farming in Australia would be different to New Zealand,
but you know, that was an amazing property. It was
one hundred and thirty thousand acres in total, so that's
like fifty two and a half thousand hectares, and it
was split into eight paddocks, and we were in a
paddock that was fifteen acres big and we're fifteen thousand acres.
(35:50):
We said, oh, this must be your biggest paddock and
he's like, oh, no, one's over thirty thousand, and we're
just like, oh my goodness. You know, it was sixty
kilometers into end that property, which is pretty much that
is literally actually from Embercargo to Gore.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Enormous, amazing and they're running it off the sniff the
sniff of an oily rag.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
Yeah, because you know, on that one we said, oh,
how many start have you got on the place and
he was driving us around the property and then we
bus at that stage and he said, you're looking at
him and we we're just like, oh my goodness. But
I guess you know, if you've only got eight paddocks
you're fencing hopefully it's pretty good. You're not out there
fixing it all the time. And just different way of farming.
And we talk about, you know, how many stock units
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to the heat dear? You might have no two or
three stock units to the heat dear for some of
those harder properties to farm, but they're like, you know,
stop acres to the stock. So it was twenty acres
to a cow and cast unit and it just yeah,
everything was so so different to what we expected. But
an incredible tool party. There were twenty four of us,
(36:55):
and there's something about traveling with farmers, you know, they
just ask the most interesting in questions and we all
had an absolute ball and.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
They never sleep in they never missed the bus.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
No, absolutely, absolutely one of the main take homes for us, though.
Jamie was the one thing that the Aussies can brag
to us about because they cannot brag about the Wallabees mood.
It's a bit of a sad situation, but they can
legitimately brag about their topsoil. So like here in New Zealand,
we might have out of no. Six inches of top
soil like fifteen centimeters the last property we're on, and
(37:26):
we asked this at every property. How much topsoil have
you got? Oh that you know, six hundred million meters
to a meter sixty centimeters to a meter of top soil.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Our jaws hit the floor.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Did you get to shoot a dingo? Can I say that?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Are you allowed to shoot dingos?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Two?
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Yep, yep you can. The rules You've got to have
a bit of a permit. But honestly, I would love
to go over there and just shoot their pests. I
think it would be a great job for me.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Jamie.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Well, you get into one of those thirty thousand acopatics,
you could have it all to yourself for a few weeks. Hi, Ro,
good to see you back in one piece. Look forward
to catching up with you at field days. Awena, duncan
they're wrapping of the country. Oh the farm strong, Oh
look off? Forgot the farm strong sign off? I don't
need one today because I've talked to a farm strong
champion Caine Briscoe. See you Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I sleep like a baby. I ever show a lame
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
I don't know how it feels occurt Holy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Since you say goodbye, wish I could say a mess
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here at ens in Me, chosen by Michelle As we
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go Country on the Country on a Friday. I'm Jamie McKay.
I guess this is a nice segue into our first guest.
The song is I Never Like? Can we say that
of the Prince of the province is the self titled Martuur.
Yesterday he got stuck into the Greens during the budget debate.
(01:20):
But should he who has sinned? Cast the first stone?
Matua Shane on fossil fuel energy and other things. Very
very shortly, Jason to Braak, we missed him yesterday. Excuse me,
Chief executive of Zespriy, what a great result. Five billion
for the first time in global sales for our single
(01:41):
desk sella. What a great job the Kiwi fruit industry
is doing. Chris Brandolino on an Indian summer that's heading
on into winter. Caine Briscoe this month's farmstrong farmer and champion,
well known Taranaki CALCOCKI an author of the best selling
book Tools for the Top Paddock and talking about paddocks.
One woman who's been in some very big ones. I
(02:02):
think one was about thirty thousand acres. Rowena Dunkam our
commercial rural leaders just arrived back in the country late
last night or was it early this morning after taking
a touring group to some beautiful big farms and out
back Australia. Were going to get her take on what
she saw. Some really interesting take homes from her. But
(02:23):
up next areas the Princes of the province. Is just
to lighten up your Friday weiskime.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't know how it dels.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Since you said goodbye. Wish I could say an.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Old dgin.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I never love Budget twenty twenty five. While the highlight
for me, without a doubt was some glorious baiting of
the greens from Marta Shane Jones, the Prince of the
province is Shane. You had poor old Chloe fizzing at
the bung.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Someone gave me a nineteen sixty nine bottle of mar
Week gold oil and I stood up and I invited
the greens to sniff it. And I said to Chloe figuratively,
it's not the roses. Wake up and smell the oil.
That's your near term, long term future.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And then you got stuck into over wind powered energy.
You said, we can match it with wind, but we
don't want your mung been pronoun version of wind. Do
you sit at home and make up these wei one
liners or do they come straight into your head?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, they're like a reservoir. They're like a sort of
sitting on a library shelf and subject to being alert enough,
I just pluck them back off the shelf. But sometimes
I don't know where they come from. They just materialize it.
It always worked, but most times they get a giggle
and they help define you in a political market.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Minds you you did have moments of contrition. You talked
about the worst decision made in the history of our nation,
delivered by Jasinda Adirn, supported by Meghan. I'm presuming that's
Meghan Woods and sadly acquiesced by the good Martua and
that's when you banned the search for natural gas or
banned the industry basically.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, So that's why the two hundred million dollars that
are we got and announced as a form of atonement
for that that wayward decision that I was wrapped up on.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, you've been involved in a few way with decisions until.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Sun nothing rival said. Of course, there's the ongoing madness
of climate change. And I also said in the speech
that under the United Nations, we're allowed to exempt ourselves
from a lot of this climate change sort of overreach
because we're a food producing nation and our political campaign
next year is going to be built all around that.
(04:59):
So shouldn't he and be paying anything for food producing
out of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I wouldn't argue with you there. Are you going
to stay? Are you in Winston going to campaign strongly
on getting out of Paris?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well, the first thing we're going to do is going
to seek a mandate from KIWIS because obviously other political
parties are very very nervous about the main parties about
walking away from Paris. But New Zealand first, we're not
going to stay in the position that we are. The
extent that we kick it on the backside and get
(05:31):
rid of it all together is going to depend on
our next electoral result. But we're not campaigning for the
status quo. We believe that the high tide has come
and gone. There's a report that was put out by
an excellent lady called Nicholas Shedbolg. Sadly she was elbowed
out of the Climate Commission by the Zealots over the
last year or two. We have a great deal of
(05:52):
confidence in that lady, academic from Messi University, and she's
saying that for short lived gases, do we go at
twenty four percent or fourteen percent? New Zealand person is
toying with the idea of execpting the entirety of short
short lived gases for in terms of agriculture.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What did you make of the key elements of the
budget changes to key we say, and I'm thinking, if
you're earning one hundred and eighty grand, you don't need
another five hundred dollars per annum from the government. In fact,
Shane I were to put the threshold much lower than that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, well we're making you know, we're making what obviously
our steps to shrink the size of the entitlements that
the state offers to you and I as citizens. David
Seymour wants us to go a lot further. We have
to be respectful of Nikola. She's sort of taking a
more of an incremental approach. But we've got our budget
(06:46):
next year and there's another opportunity. As I see in
the budget speech, there's going to be more cuts, and
there has to be because the state has ended up
elbowing the private sector out of the way and occupying
positions in your our society where it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I did like the new investment boost tax credit for
businesses where you can can deduct twenty percent of a
new assets value and that is on top of the
annual depreciation. Minds you, Shane, it does remind me of you,
and you're of a similar generation to me. Back in
the day when I left university, a lot of my
young farmer mates were all buying hold and utes and
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the reason they were doing it through the farm is
they would get a forty percent investment allowance off the
top and then they could depreciate it after that cost
them next to nothing. Are we going to see any
of that.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh look, the eye idea will be watching anyone gaining
the system. But I'm hopeful that in my beloved fishing
and mining industry, and not only will certainly at fishing,
sorry of mining, if it's oil and gas, I'll have
access to the two hundred million if they've got a
decent deal and they can expense at twenty percent capital investments,
(07:57):
and that's going to really turbocharge I'm quite frankly. It's
those kinds of investments and incentives that's going to help
people to move more to capital efficiency, and that's a
better response to coping with weather. This notion of climatism
closing down the economy, that's hoax politics.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Talking about climate change and making the planet a better place.
You're off to Marsden Point. There's a rich irony in
this to open a solar farm.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, So at one level, I have to At one level,
I have to respect the fact that we own the
gent tailors fifty one percent. They're spending taxpayers resources and
the sense that it's partly a taxpayer owned company and
the private sector. But I do see an ongoing place
for Marsden Point importing diesel, so that can run a
(08:47):
diesel peaker power station at Marsden Point and shrink the
cost of energy. But I've now realized that it's impossible
to rely on these gent tailors over time to give
us more secure energy and cheaper energy the short term
market and that keeps the prices high. And we're about
to get a major report over the next month from
some Aussie consultants and then the government's going to make
(09:09):
a call as to what changes we make to the
energy markets. Now you know that, Winstone. I we campaign
on major changes, including splitting up the gent tailor's and
ensuring that it's a long term future for oil, coal
and gas to keep the lights on. I think that
I'm winning that debate.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hey, I just want to finish with another one of
your one liners from the House yesterday and the budget debate.
A bit of Coalition advice. If you want for Labor
you said this, I would say to Labor, I need
to give you speed dial relationship advice. And my advice
to mister Hipkins is you're going to have to kiss
a lot of frogs before you find the prince. Were
(09:52):
you referring to yourself? Were you offering your services to Chippy.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I did say I'm wearing a red tie. Remind you
what could have been. No, I was saying to them,
you kiss the wrong frog, Chippy, and you yourself will croak.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well he's kissing a green frog.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well mate, that frog is actually a tadpole without leggs,
and it's distorted, misshapen, and sadly it's in the wrong
country because it doesn't believe. And kiwi's aspiring to be wealthy,
or kiwi's making their own children lunch to take to school.
They've fed this appetite and this toxic diet of not
(10:33):
only victimhood but dependability, and they are now depending and
becoming reliant on the state to an extent. We cannot
afford it to go back to the old values. You
have kids, you get off your momal, your backside, and
you raise them. And if you are on the dole
and you are not prepared to work like other Kiwis,
then we're not going to pay you to maintain a misshapen,
(10:54):
very dangerous lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well spoken Matoa, Shane John's Prince of the Provinces, Thanks
as always for you time on the country. Take care
of me, Yes, Shane Jones are here on the country
eighteen after twelve texts coming in Shane Nuclear. I think
that's a compliment. Who likes the Prince of the province
of Shane Jones and what he says.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Another text and from Jeff you can get us on
five double nine by the way south pumping. He's talking
about the southern end of New Zealand. Here Fonterra tanker
driver said, still picking up five million. What's five million?
That must be liters I'm assuming compared to three point
five million last year. That can't be daily. I don't know.
(11:39):
I'll do some resend your text check and Jeff and
give me some context around those numbers. But what he's
sort of saying is there's a real Indian summer happening
down south and they having a really good end to
the season. Of course the North Island was quite dry.
We're going to go a bit later in the hour
to a Taranakid dairy farmer by the name of Cain Briscoe.
(12:01):
He's a farmstrong champion. He wrote the book best selling
book Tools for the Top Paddock. Looking forward to seeing
how his top paddock dealt with the drought in that
region this year. But up next it's Kiwi Fruit, chief
executive of zest Prey Jason to Break, And before I
forget very excited here in the studio, I've got a
chainsaw from Still. It's Still Chainsaw Safety Awareness Sneak Weeks
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you can do that before the end of the hour.
Up next, Jason to Break.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Tread when I was twelve on a ne Jab tractor,
holding in Bilson's bagging in Brds Lendlanes, running burg dogs.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Do the George of markets and stand side Cabrigandy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You want a good news story, then let's talk Key
we Fruit. Jason to Break is the chief executive of Zestree.
Sorry for missing you on yesterday's show. Jason, we've got
you today. Where do we start the industry topping five
billion and global sales for the first time ever.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Yeah, I mean, obviously we've put in probably a decade
of investing heavily and a strong brand in the market
creating demand, and also our growers and our post harvest
through New Zealand have made sure that we focus on
quality and delivering qualities of the market. So five billion
sales is a huge milestone for us to get to,
but it's come down to probably a decade of hard
(13:46):
work and investment to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's interesting when you say a decade of hard work
and investments. Someone had the wisdom way back in twenty fifteen,
ten years ago to set a goal of four point
five billion by twenty twenty five. Normally these forecasts just
a bit of a stab in the dark, but they
got this one pretty good and you've exceeded it.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Yeah, obviously there was a vision about how we would
go through pretty good growth on the back of particularly
sun Gold, also resting heavily to make sure we have
a strong brand and good demand in the market for
our fruit, and it's been great. You know, the industries
really work together to make sure we're able to deliver that.
And also we've been able to see in the market
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consumers moving water towards health conscious and natural nutrition diets,
so it's been positive for us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Why has can we fruit green made a bit of
a comeback because I assumed it would eventually be made
totally redundant by gold.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
There's still quite a reasonable amount of consumers out there
that want to buy based on the health attributes of
green obviously around the fiber content, and it's good for digestion,
so that you do still get a good consumer base
out there. And we've been able to list the value
in the market just to make sure that we keep
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ahead of our costs on orchard and for our supply
chain as well.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I see there's a meaningful premium for organic. And if
I'm looking at sun Gold, for instance, your biggest player,
final return for the season just being not the season
we're in now eleven dollars eighty one portray for the
sun Gold plane stuff or traditional stuff, whatever the terminology is.
But for the organic you're getting fifteen dollars twenty that's
(15:35):
a sizeable premium.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Yeah, we've seen good growth in the organic category around
the world at the moment actually, and also good value
on the back of that. Japan's always been a pretty
strong market for US there, but in the recent years
we've seen both the US and also some of our
northern European markets have really picked up, you know, France,
Germany already getting more focus around organic fruit as well.
(16:00):
So we've got a good demand before ganick around the world.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
At the moment, Zesbury's non New Zealand supply sales this
is the stuff I'm assuming you're growing in the Northern
Hemisphere have performed very well as well. Twenty six point
five million trays out of what your total production this
year was two hundred and twenty million trays, So that's
an excess of ten percent of your total crop is
(16:23):
now grown elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Yeah, that's right, and ultimately we think we've been growing
offshore for close to twenty years now we're starting to
see that list and productivity and also with a successful
producer boat last year where the industry supported our view
around growing more fruit off shore, we'll see that continue
to arise in the future as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How are you meeting the demand for Keywi fruit licenses,
because you can't just decide to be a Kiwi fruit farmer,
You've got to buy a license to be able to produce.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, so we're looking at how we make sure we
keep the command a head of supply, so making sure
that we build demand in the market well ahead of
about what we can supply, and then we release license
both for our New Zealand grower base with our license
release each season, but also when we're licensing for offshore production,
to make sure that as we build more demand, the
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supply is keeping up with that, but not getting ahead
of demand as well.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, this final question on your profitability. Your net profit
was one hundred and fifty five million, down from one
hundred and seventy three million, driven mainly by what you
just talked about before, reduced license revenue from a reduction
and available heck the iss and you're dead right keep
demand ahead of supply. It's economics one oh one.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yeah, that's right. And if you think about the profit
of estree, we're essentially make some profit on essentially being
able to sell the fruit both from New Zealand and
also offshore, and then the other profit is off the
license release. So where she saw an increase in our
profitability from our fruit supply business because we sold more
fruit at more value and we also really focus on
(18:05):
our cost now overhead to try and keep those low.
The other side which was offset was the license We
released less license in that year because we just try
to take a bit of a slowdown while we let
our supply chain invest in future infrastructure. But since then
we've actually started to increase the license release as well.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So in the dairy industry, we talk about a ten
dollar payout, it will be this year, might even be
a wee bit better than that, and then the prospect
maybe ten dollars in the coming season for the fruit
that's currently coming off now or has come off this season,
it's next season effectively, in terms of returns, what are
you predicting more levels? Will prices stay at these elevated levels.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
I mean, that's the aim where we're striving pretty hard
to try and make sure we keep it similar levels.
What we're seeing is a slightly more trickier environment out
there at the moment, particularly through Asia, with a little
bit less confidence in the market. But we've had a
pretty strong start. We're about a core of the way
through our song Gold volume already and Ruby Red's done
(19:05):
and dusted with a really good result. So look, you
know it's early days, but we're pretty happy for the
start and also just making sure we work through to
try and get his best return we can for our growers.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Jason to Break, chief executive of Zest pre see you
at field days.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Great Billy were a pair.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Thanks Jason bang On twelve thirty, I better tell you
how you can win the first of our five Still
MS one eighty two chainsaws for Still Chafety Chafety Still
Chainsaw Safety Awareness Week. It's reminding you how to stay
safe and mindful when working with your chainsaw. I could
(19:45):
have done with this about forty years ago. So we've
got five to give away. They're valued at five hundred
and fifty five dollars each. We've also got a couple
of STILL safety packs that retail for three hundred bucks
or just under to give away as well. But today
it's the first of our chainsaws, the MS one eight
two compact petrol powd chainsaw forty centimeter guide bar, making
(20:09):
it the perfect handy saw for those smaller jobs around
the farm all the lifestyle block. It's a brilliant sized
chain saw, so all you need to do to win it.
To win the first of five is to go to
the country dot co dot nz our website, fill in
the entry form with the correct answer to the Daily Question.
(20:30):
Here's today's daily question. What are three items in a
still chainsaw safety pack? I don't think you need to
be a rocket scientist to figure this one out. There's
got to be some I don't know, safety goggles, chaps,
am ups. You think about it. If if you name
three and there's quite a few in there, you will
(20:52):
be in the draw. A first one will be announced
by Phil Ropiha on Monday Show. Actually a first prize.
I should have read this. Our first prize is actually
the chainsaw and the safety pack together. Prior reading prevents
poor performance. So there you go. I've even doubled up
on that one. The whole. The prize for Monday is
(21:13):
worth eight hundred and forty seven dollars and fifty cents.
That's the chainsaw five hundred and fifty five bucks and
the Still safety pack valued at two one hundred and
ninety two dollars and fifty cents. Go to our website Thecountry,
dot co dot n z to win that one. Up next,
Chris Brandolino from Niwa and the Weather.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Drive around and do you wear it on?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You see the cheap indeed down Union, I would change
my mind. I'm as we just found, but I still
love ruck Rule Houcky all in the floor.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So we mix it up a bit here on the
Country Going Country on a Friday. Picked it off with
I Never Lie by Zach Zach Michelle's wandered and is
Zach is the only Zach Zach top? Oh Zach top? Yeah,
because I need to do some pre reading, Zach top. See,
I thought you meant he was the top number one.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I know.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I checked that three or four times to make sure
I hadn't misunderstood that too, So don't worry.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You could have done with two tops there. And how
Zach top I Never Lie is number one on our
iHeart Country station. This is old style country from Charlie
Rich I reckon. Our next guest would be a big
country music fan because he's from the home of country music,
the USA. Chris Brandolino from Neway. Are you a big
Charlie Rich fan?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Chris negative?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Negative? Okay, Well let's get let's talk about something that
excites you. You sound so you sounded so deflated? Look
down south here we're headed. Were still in an Indian summer?
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Well, now listen, I'm going to break out the purest
juice here.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Now, NBA summer. If you're a purist, it's a Native
American term, so that's the origins. And technically Indian summer
is the first spell of unusually warm weather. But after
your first frost, Jamie, you got to have your first frost.
So if you had a frost, and it's an usually
(23:21):
warm tick. If not, if you're going to be a purist,
then that's a different No.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, we've had we've had frost down here, so I
ticked that box.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Okay, good, well, not everyone has, but it's making sure.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So I was looking at the old Lagward Drought Indix
map earlier this morning in preparation to speak to who
I'm going to check to Nick's Cane, Briscoe and Taranaki,
and I see nowhere in the countries and uh and
drought or and soil moisture deficit nor should it be
at the time of the year.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Yeah, well you're you're I'll give you half credit partial credit. Look, uh,
there is not and there isn't any meteorological drought, so correct,
well done. However, if you look at the soil and
moisture map and look at where the soils are unusually
dry for the time of year late May now just
about much of the Waikato, southeastern Tananaki, the Menawatu King Country,
(24:14):
basically between Mount rupe Whu and say Palmiston north. Between
that zone that is where the soils are unusually dry.
Also in your neck of the woods, my friend down
in Dunners down toward east to the eastern far eastern
Southland and far as southern Otago. Yep, there's some usually
(24:35):
dry soils there. So not everywhere, but unfortunately the Waikato
is still dealing with dryness as a southeast Tananaki. And
as we know, Jamie, even though dryness and drought can
end the effects of dryness and drought can certainly persist
much longer.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes, we do need some good winter rainfalls to reach
out the sub soil a mond. You farmers in the
deep South, they know it's going to get wet down here,
so they welcome the dry soils while they're still standing above. Look, Okay,
what do we got very quickly for the next three, four, five,
six seven days.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Well, basically a quiet start to the weekend, so dry
weather apart from a few wide showers along the west coast.
Usual suspects that'll really increase on Sunday quite frankly, and
a few spits of rain on Sunday, I suppose across
the upper North On but we're literally talking spits of
rain a bar from say the Quorum Mantle. It could
be a proper shower there. And then as you look
ahead into Monday, the new week, there will be some
(25:28):
there'll be rain falling Sunday night to Monday, a proper
rain for the west of the South Island as well
as Lower Southland. We'll get a good drop of rain
that looks like a decent rainfalls Sunday night in to Monday,
and that band of rain moves north, so that'll impact Tandanaka,
the affore mentioned Tandanaki region, lower North Island, as well
as parts of the y coott So probably later on
(25:48):
Monday and especially Monday night, pretty good low comes in
from the Tasman Sea Tuesday, and because it's to our west,
we're going to be dipping into some pretty warm temperatures.
So more rain is like probably Tuesday night and especially
Wednesday for a good chunk of a country. So expect
that midweek rain. But again it's gonna be unusually warm
(26:10):
and there'll be some pretty good Nordallies and Northwesterlies with
that too, especially North Island with that second round of
way brain. He said, middle next week and then it
basically remains unusually warm for a good chunk of the
week next week. This time next week, Jamie, I'll be
able to share our winter outlook, so get ready for that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I can hardly sleep waiting and anticipation. Chris, thank you
for Itzan. I appreciate it, my pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
They good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Then we got Chris Brandeleno from Nwell, we're gonna take
a break Michelle's and here we'll do a rural news
and sports news for you. And I think I might
have given the answer to the still Chainsaw safety awenas
question week question about what was on the safety pack
before the end of the air Caine Briscoe and Taranaki
and Rowena Duncan back from the aussiel Pack Musive Welcome
(27:08):
back to the country. Here is Michelle Watt with the
latest and a rural.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
News, the country's world news with Cob Cadet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot
co dot INSI.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
For your local stockist and Rabobank have released a report
on the milk price forecast for the twenty twenty five
twenty twenty six dairy season. New Zealand dairy farmers can
expect a record opening milk price forecast for the twenty
twenty five twenty twenty sixth season, according to the report
by agribusiness banking specialist Rabobank. So apparently their base case
(27:42):
expectation is for an opening farmgate milk price of around
nine dollars fifty kg per kage of milk solids for
the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season. And that's
assuming a spot exchange rate of US cents of zero
point five nine.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yep, well, we're about fifty nine cents at the moment.
That's they're always conservative. Emahiggins and the team from Rabobank,
so that's not a bad opening shot. Nine dollars fifty
From Rabobank's sport.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Sport, we're the hath Go Kiwi to the bone.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Since nineteen oh four, Michael Main's been rewarded with the
Football Ferns coaching job after an intense balancing act. He's
held the interim roll since a Yittka Kim Clover quit
in September. Main will guide the team to the twenty
twenty seven World Cup, starting with games against Venezuela in
Spain next month. And Herbie Farnworth, never heard of him,
(28:32):
has revealed that twenty four hours before the Dolphins demolished
the ladder leading Bulldogs forty four to eight in League's Narl,
he was in Brisbane hospital hooked up to an intravenous
strip healing an infection around a leg cut. I wasn't
up to speed on that score. It's a great score, Michelle,
for the Warriors because the Bulldogs are the only team
(28:55):
that's standing between them and the top of the table.
And of course we've got the Crusaders Highlanders tonight. You know,
I don't want to be blindly loyal to the Highlanders,
but they've we history are going up to christ Church
and causing an upset, let's hope. So up next to
Caine Briscoe, who used to be a rugby player of
note himself and the Taranaki. He's up next Monthly here
(29:24):
on the country we catch up with the farm strong farmer.
In the case of this bloke, he's a farm strong champion.
His name is Caine Briscoe, Taranaki dairy farmer and author
of the best selling book Tools for the Top Paddock. Hey, kin,
I want to ask you this question to start with,
how's your top paddock after the drought this year in Taranaki.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, Jamie, it's I'm pretty good, to be honest, I've
there's nothing i haven't been through before, and I'm I'm
a big believer in approaching challenges with the right mindset
and that that gets you through going pretty good and
see well at the other end.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
So I'm pretty good to be fair.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I'm pretty proactive with our top padd of these days.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Mate. Well, so you should be. You're an expert in
the field. You're farming like twenty minutes north of New Plymouth.
I take it that that part of the Taranaki province
wasn't as badly affected as say that, you know, the
southern coastal region.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Wallet to get pretty dry here, Jamie, nothing compared to
coastal and South Taranaki. They got dryer a lot earlier
than us, and they had a dry summer and winter
last year as well, so they definitely copped it a
lot worse.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Now, you not only talk the talk, you walk the
walk because we're talking about looking after the top paddock,
and you're saying it's just like becoming physically fitter, you
can also learn mental skills that will make you mentally
stronger and more resilient. Now, how important, because I know
you're a bit of a fitness guru as well. How
important is physical fitness for mental health?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah, they go hand in hand with each other, Jamie.
I've always sort of said good mental fitness requires great
physical support. So all the things you need to do
to look after the top paddic, so to speak, require
physical actions and living a good physical life. So it's
really difficult to have one without the other.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
To be honest, these are lessons learned from the world
of elite sport, where literally being an elite sportsman can
play hell with your head. I don't know how the
professional golfers do it, but Farmstrong has this new mental
skills toolkit which is available online. It's not all touchy, fairly,
(31:38):
is it? Tell me? It's practical and down to earth
for the farmers.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
No, No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Made If I can do it, anyone can. I think
I'm a pretty typical Kiwi bloke. So now, it's very
easy to understand it. They take complex things and make
them very simple and easy to understand, so anyone can
do it. There's no quick fit, but it's really simple things.
It can be as little as five minutes a day.
(32:04):
But it's doing those little things consistently in building up
their toolkit over time that really makes the difference. So
really simple, really quick, really easy.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
You just need to stick at it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, what do you do?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
What do I do?
Speaker 9 (32:19):
So daily?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I try and be very physical with what I do.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Obviously, so some physical and physical activity that that's not
farm work. I always ride out some of the old
thoughts in the in the top of my head, but
you know, perhaps causing some frustrations. And also, you know,
(32:44):
socializing is really important, being part of the community and
your friends group, and I guess you're just trying to
maintain that perspective in life. Made I think that's one
of the keys.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Well, I remember back to my days as a farmer,
and that's going back a few years now, came, but
I remember, you know, so are you going through a
tough time. I was a sheep farmer in Southland. You'd
get a lambing storm and you would think that you
were being hit worse than any other farmer in the district.
But sometimes going into the pub on a Friday night,
whatever your area of choice is for gathering and talking
(33:15):
to other people with similar problems. Just you know, a
problem shared is a problem. Halved I just and you
mentioned that getting off farm, having a life or a
hobby or a sport outside the farm, because if you're
just farming farming farming, it'll do your heading.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Absolutely, I've had exactly that scenario in my farming career
a couple of times. And you think you're the only one,
and you think you're the worst farmer in the New
Zealand or the district or whatever, and you feel like
a bit of a failure. But when you go out
and actually talk to other people, there's always someone else
that's got the same problems or in fact has it worse,
and that can really take a mental load off.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Absolutely, you're farming, dairy farming and Taranaki. Are you milking
on into the winter?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Cain at ten bark n No, we're still mooking at
the moment, but the end is drawing near, so we're
just the cold temperatures hit the NECKI so it won't
be too long and we'll be finishing up mate the
next next season.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You are a true farm strong champion, Caine Brisco, thanks
for your time today on the country.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, Jamie, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Good on your cane. Keep up the good work and
stay away from one if you want to win. The
Still Chainsaw worth a lot of money five hundred and
fifty five dollars in fact, and the Still Safety pack
which is worth two hundred and ninety two dollars fifty
all up eight hundred and forty seven dollars fifty. Just
go to our website, fill in the entry form, tell
(34:41):
us what the three items are and the Still Chainsaw
Safety Pack. I foolishly name them all for you before
that because I thought there was more than three, but
there's only three. So if you were listening, you can
enter that competition. And one up next for Rowena Duncan.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
That you're read with p.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well. I affectionately call her the hard dog to keep
on the porch. That's because she's never at home. She's
just come back from a ten day outback farming tour
of Australia with our travel Partner's SYS for Trevor. Owena
dunk came. I know you had a bit of a
long haul getting home, but you had a great tour.
You went to one place where some blokead a paddock
(35:24):
that was thirty thousand acres.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Oh no, right, hello.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Jamie, great to be with you.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
It honestly was the most amazing tour. And like I
knew farming in Australia would be different to New Zealand,
but you know, that was an amazing property. It was
one hundred and thirty thousand acres in total, so that's
like fifty two and a half thousand hectares, and it
was split into eight paddocks, and we were in a
paddock that was fifteen acres big and we're fifteen thousand acres.
(35:50):
We said, oh, this must be your biggest paddock and
he's like, oh, no, one's over thirty thousand, and we're
just like, oh my goodness. You know, it was sixty
kilometers into end that property, which is pretty much that
is literally actually from Embercargo to Gore.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Enormous, amazing and they're running it off the sniff the
sniff of an oily rag.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
Yeah, because you know, on that one we said, oh,
how many start have you got on the place and
he was driving us around the property and then we
bus at that stage and he said, you're looking at
him and we we're just like, oh my goodness. But
I guess you know, if you've only got eight paddocks
you're fencing hopefully it's pretty good. You're not out there
fixing it all the time. And just different way of farming.
And we talk about, you know, how many stock units
(36:33):
to the heat dear? You might have no two or
three stock units to the heat dear for some of
those harder properties to farm, but they're like, you know,
stop acres to the stock. So it was twenty acres
to a cow and cast unit and it just yeah,
everything was so so different to what we expected. But
an incredible tool party. There were twenty four of us,
(36:55):
and there's something about traveling with farmers, you know, they
just ask the most interesting in questions and we all
had an absolute ball and.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
They never sleep in they never missed the bus.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
No, absolutely, absolutely one of the main take homes for us, though.
Jamie was the one thing that the Aussies can brag
to us about because they cannot brag about the Wallabees mood.
It's a bit of a sad situation, but they can
legitimately brag about their topsoil. So like here in New Zealand,
we might have out of no. Six inches of top
soil like fifteen centimeters the last property we're on, and
(37:26):
we asked this at every property. How much topsoil have
you got? Oh that you know, six hundred million meters
to a meter sixty centimeters to a meter of top soil.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Our jaws hit the floor.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Did you get to shoot a dingo? Can I say that?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Are you allowed to shoot dingos?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Two?
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Yep, yep you can. The rules You've got to have
a bit of a permit. But honestly, I would love
to go over there and just shoot their pests. I
think it would be a great job for me.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Jamie.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Well, you get into one of those thirty thousand acopatics,
you could have it all to yourself for a few weeks. Hi, Ro,
good to see you back in one piece. Look forward
to catching up with you at field days. Awena, duncan
they're wrapping of the country. Oh the farm strong, Oh
look off? Forgot the farm strong sign off? I don't
need one today because I've talked to a farm strong
champion Caine Briscoe. See you Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie mcguye. Thanks to Brent starkest of the
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