May 14, 2026 • 40 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Dr John Roche, Chris Brandolino, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Michael Fox, and Campbell Parker.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to a Suzu get demo
deals on the tough Dmax today.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I know a few guests who thought they were pretty smart,
but you've got to be in right down.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
To thank you genius.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Your drama at the wall, your regular original know it
at all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I thank your spensud.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so you're a rocket scientist.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That don't impress me. Get on New Zealand. Welcome to
the Country. I'm Jamie McKay just trying to get a
hold of Chris briendoleno me. We're having no luck, so
we might have to go to second cab off the rank,
which is good really because it's our keynote interview for today.
Doctor John Roach. Here's a bloke with two really important jobs.
(01:12):
Not only is he the Chief Science Advisor to MPI,
he's also the chief science advisor to the Prime Minister,
Doctor John Roach. To kick off the show today, Chris
Brandelino will track him down at some stage between now
and the end of the hour. Friday's weather Man, Today's
Farmer Panel Emma Paul and Tim Dangen brother and sister,
(01:33):
both former Young Farmers of the Year. Emma is an
Australia at the moment and Tim is drying off on
his Riveton dairy farm as we speak. Michael Fox is
Zespery's head of Global public Affairs. Today Zespery is hosting
the EU Ambassador and a whole lot of other ambassadorial
(01:55):
type people in the Bay of Plenty as they mark
two years since the eu FTA came into force on
the first of twenty twenty four. Doesn't seem that long ago,
does it. And it's Dairy Week here on the country
as we count down to Moving Day with Meridian and Farmlands,
they're sponsoring Dairy Week. So we're going to wrap it
(02:18):
with the bow with the bloke who's in charge of
the industry, good body in this country. His name is
Campbell park A, chief executive of Dairy en Z. A
lot of dairy activity happening in Canterbury at the moment.
We'll have a look at that one and the environmental
footprint as well. We'll have rural news and sports news
for you. Watched a bit of the golf this morning,
(02:39):
although of the four majors, the PGA's kind of the
least exciting. The Masters is my favorite, probably followed by
the US Open, then the Open, British Open, and the
PGA would come in forth. Anyhow, it's been a bit
of a battle for a lot of those golf as
the key we guys are doing all right, got all
that to do between now and the end of the hour.
(03:01):
Doctor John Roach kicks off the country. He is doctor
John Roach. He is mpi's chief Science Advisor. If that's
(03:24):
not enough, he's the Prime Minister's science advisor. He joins
us on the country. It is dairy week here on
the Country, John, You've got a good dairy background. You
grew up on a dairy farm in Ireland as a
young man. Mind you, dairy farms and island back in
those days weren't very big.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Jeremie. Hey, thanks for having me on. Yes,
I did look and I think that stood to me
my entire life. I'm still an early riser. Most people
think I'm crazy. I'm not walking the dog at five
o'clock in the morning now rather than milking cows. But yeah,
like it was a great way to grow up, and
back then we would have been regarded as a relatively
(04:02):
large farm in Ireland. My father would have been milking
just over sixty cows. My brother is still on that
farm and he's milking two hundred and twenty cows now.
So you know, the milk quota and the common agricultural
policy environment of the EU created a very strange ecosystem
for dairy farming.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I was lucky enough to lead a farming tour over
to the UK and Ireland in two thousand and three,
and the one thing that stuck in my head, other
than your smoky bars, because you hadn't been smoking in
bars at that stage, was the size of the cows,
John Roch. They were like houses.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
They were look many countries make poor decisions, and I
think one of the poor decisions was Ireland followed the
rest of the world in growing bigger cows because bigger
cows can eat more and can therefore produce more milk,
and the simplistic belief that more milk meant more profit.
(04:57):
We were fortunate in the early nineteen nineties we brought
in a number of New Zealand dairy advisors into the country.
Sharon and Alistair Rain were two that when I was
getting involved in dairy came in. Sharon and Alistair are
now farming in Canterbury themselves. But my brother joined one
(05:17):
of Sharon's discussion groups and to learn more about how
New Zealand farmed grass and how they were an incredibly
profitable dairy sector without any subsidies. And of course through
that we learned the value of a multi trade index
and started breeding back towards a smaller cow, more like
a New Zealand. A robust, resilient cow that was highly profitable,
(05:41):
could get pregnant easily, could produce large volumes of milk
and coagrid as well. So that's changed a lot as well.
Used to have farms with very big cows, but the
vast majority of dairy farms across island now have a
New Zealand type cow.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Ye're a year or so into your job as the
Prime Minister's Science Advisor. How's it gone. How do you
split your time between MPI and the Prime Minister's office.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, that's a good question. That varies on a dai
to day basis. It really depends on the demands. But
I think it's gone. Well, look I go back. It
is just over a year. It's a year ago last
week actually that the Prime Minister announced it, and I
was in Ireland at the time for a private visit,
and you know, he had mentioned to me that he
had looked at the Irish system and he was really
(06:27):
impressed with how the science, innovation and technology system had
helped Ireland post GFC. I mean, everybody will know that
Ireland at a very difficult time coming out of the
GFC from an economic point of view. And so I
said to him, I said, well, look, I'm over there
in a couple of weeks, why don't I repurpose a
week of leave and get to meet some of the
(06:49):
departments and the research funding agencies and just see what
they did. And one of those meetings was with the
former Secretary General of Science Foundation Ireland, so the the
funding agency, and he also happened to have been the
Chief Scientist at the same time. And I've talked to
the Mark Ferguson doctor from Mark Ferguson is his name,
and I've talked to him a number of times since,
(07:10):
and just the pearls of wisdom that he was able
to provide to me about what Ireland did in that
time in prioritization and what he was able to do
for the Irish Prime Minister. The t shock at the
time gave me a great sense of enablement. I felt
(07:30):
like I wasn't quite drowning. In the same way I
had a fair degree of impostor syndrome Jimmy, if I'm
honest When the Prime Minister asked me to step into
such a big role, Mark gave me a bit of
confidence that I could probably do the role, but also
most importantly the importance of the role and the science
reforms that we were initiating in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
MPI, as always will have a huge prisons at Field
days when we look at the egg and science. How
do things like AI for instance come and to play
now obviously more and more on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Absolutely absolutely. Actually I was at the South Island Area
event last month and we had a session on that
and a farmer from Taranaki Hid and Laurens spoke about
how he was using it in his own business or
just playing playing with it to see how we could
use it most effectively. It is coming in increasingly when
we will have it. One of the sites that MPI
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is sponsoring alongside partners at Field is the Science for
Farmer's site, which you'll have visited with us last last year.
It's bigger and better. But one of our modules this
year will be working with some of our partners to
show farmers how we can develop technologies for them in
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real time. So we're going to try and run it
in real time with farmers coming through helping us improve
some of those products using artificial intelligence and some of
the associated technologies.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Hey, doctor John Roach, mpi's chief Science Advisor, Science Advisor
to the Prime Minister. I could chat to you all
day with that lovely Irish lot, but I haven't got
all day, nor have you. You're a very busy man.
Thanks for some of your time today.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Ah look, I appreciate you. Up to you, Jeremy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Pleasure is all mine. John Quarter, past twelve years with
the country. Can't find my Friday with the man Chris Brandolina.
I'll have another crack after the break. I know that
Emma Pool's and Australia Tim dungeons in South and that's
today's farmer panel. Michael Fox, he's zespri's head of Global
(09:37):
Public Affairs. Big day in the Bay are plenty today
they're hosting the EU Ambassador and Campbell Parker, chief executive
of dairy and z perhaps dairy week here on the country.
As we count down to moving day and field days,
lots of stuff happening. Remember, if you move with Meridian
you can enjoy an account credited up to three hundred dollars.
(09:58):
Teas and sees apply. And also if you move with
Meridian you can charge it through your Farmland's card. What
can you not put on that magnificent Farmland's card. Okay,
we'll have a crack at Chris Brandolino next on the country,
I think you.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That don't impress me much.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Whether on the country with Fiji, where happiness comes naturally
a woman wants.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Welcome back to the country. I found my favorite weather
man on a Friday. I thought he'd I thought he
had forsaken me. Maybe he'd gone to talk to another
radio show. We'd been unfaithful to me, one of these
rip off shows that's trying to do what we do.
I shouldn't say that, good luck. The more rural broadcast
is the better. Is it a bit like do you
have that collegiality with weather men?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yes, that's not a very convincing.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yess it is.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We get on with everyone. We have all of God's creatures,
human and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well, let's stick to your specialist topic today, the weather.
When when do you, guys, I'm assuming at some stage
because you come out with some forecast, and an autumn forecast,
a spring forecast, when when is your winter forecast released?
Which begs the question when does winter officially begin? Is
it June one?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Jamie? We don't issue a winter outlook. No, I'm kidding.
We do issue a winter outlook, of course, and that
will be it depends on We go by the meteorological definition.
So the star of each quarter, so June one, from
a meteorological definition, is the start of winter. Now, I
know there's some og you know, real like strict interpreters.
(12:07):
I used to be one of them. Where No, No,
it's when the solstice or the equinox. That's the astronomical definition.
And the reason we don't use that in terms of
our purpose is Jamie, is because it's for bookkeeping. If
we want to keep records like it was the fifth
wettest it was the second warmest you know, season on record,
be it winter, spring, et cetera. We have to go
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by the beginning and the end of a month, because
it just makes things a lot cleaner. So that outlook
will be coming on Tuesday, the second of it's the
day after. It's the Tuesday after King's Birthday weekend, so
that's when the winter outlook will come. Put it in
your calendar, Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
In the main time, I'm here in the South Island anyhow,
we've got a dirty it's not a dirty. It's so wonderful.
It's a big and beautiful as Trump would say, Hi,
I plunked over us would which I hike to bring
your favorite politician into the conversation. But it's really good.
I love, I love with the like this, especially in
the winter. You get a frosty start in the way
(13:04):
you go it. Sunshine and beautiful.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah, we're gonna get plenty of those for the next
few days. I mean the big old we were talking
just before airtime, big old high. You've got the home barometer.
This is up there around ten forty hecta Pascos ten
thirty eight as it moves over the South Island this weekend.
So sunny days, foggy morning kind of watch up for
the black lives if you're traveling early in the morning
because of the moisture and the Chili temperatures and that
(13:28):
will continue to give us some dry conditions. And what
we're going to see, Jamie, as we move into the
winter season proper, especially July, August and beyond, we're going
to see our conditions pivoting to more al Anina like.
So what does that mean for the winter. We get
these large highs, we get settle conditions, fogs and frosts,
(13:49):
We tend to get more southwesterly winds, so that means
we don't get air flows coming from the north. I mean,
that will happen on occasion, but there's a reduction. That
is the key, and we have to watch out for
winter dry As we talked about this before winter drawn
its apart from say Southland, apart from say the west
of the South Island. So we'll park them aside for
now because this is, as you know, farmers no groundwater
(14:11):
recharge season. And if we don't get adequate rainfall during winter,
we're starting off the next growing season on the back
foot and that's not a good thing. And as we
look farther afield Boy, just a heads up everyone, I mean,
we'll update you as we go through the next several
weeks and months of course, but August, September, October looking
very windy, especially for the South Island, but not limited
(14:34):
to very windy, could be unusually dry, could be quite
wet for the western and lower South Island. And this
could be very unsettled. So this is something we're watching.
Later in winter and into spring, could be some really
impactful weather, some really ups and downs where we get
these really unusually sharp, spiky warm days and then follow
(14:54):
by a pretty dramatic cold snap. So we've got some
potentially turbulent weather coming again. This is August and beyond,
so just a heads up, plenty of time to plan
for it. But we could be looking at some pretty
dry conditions as you work away through winter and spring,
particularly eastern sides of Boath Violands and northern sides of
both Violons. Plenty of watch that by look, I hear Shanaia,
(15:14):
which means you know, I got to stop and I
got to wrap it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Up to you. Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Song?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
This is.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Chris Brand and Lena is my favorite weather man out
of Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No, No, It's anywhere. The Man of Mind by Shania Twain,
Dedicated to you.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah, thank you, see ya, Hi buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
By bye it's a wee bit worrying the super al
Nino landing and Southland might be enjoy this spring, but
perhaps of more worry might be the east coast of
both islands if it's particularly windy and dry. So got
a forward planning there. I guess you have been worn.
(15:56):
But where the forecasting is to degree and imprecise science,
isn't it? Okay? Up next, we're going to talk to
a couple of farmers, very clever young farmers, smart enough
to win the Young Farmer of the Air Grand Final.
Emma Paul and Tim Dangen. Next on the Country.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Let's go girls.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
We are wrapping Dairy Week here on the Country with
Meridian and Farmlands as we count down to Moving Day
at the end of the month. We've got a couple
of dynamic young dairy farmers. In fact, they're so good
at their craft they are both former New Zealand Young
Farmers of the Year, Emma Paul and her older brother
Tim dang Emma, I want to start with you. Normally
a white caddo dairy farmer, mum of three and a
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vet to boot. But today you're swaning about in Australia.
Are you on holiday? On the Gold Coast or something.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Yeah, good, Jamie, good to be here.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Not on the Gold Coast, unfortunately, we were up in Sheperton,
which is just north of Melbourne there, so yeah, less sunshine,
but it is actually pretty good weather here today and
it's a completely different scene to what we see there
in New Zealand. And there's a lot less greenery, that's
for sure.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think for pastoral farming, you'd take New Zealand every
day of the week, but they do it differently in Australia.
They have more housed cows than we do.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yes, that's what we're over here, having a look at
a bit of investigative work on our parts, just seeing
how a different system really and how they house cattle
and how they're milking them. And there's some incredible setups
over here. They're virtually in sort of day that land,
there's nothing green around them, and then they've got these
big houses with these cows on them and they look
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absolutely comfortable under the shade there with the fans on
them and little misters going to keep the animals cool.
So it's pretty impressive to see. And some of these
animals are cranking out a thousand kilograms of milk so
per cow per year. So that's pretty incredible stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Why would we bother hows and cows, especially you and
the white Catto region there we grow bountiful amounts of grass.
You can just let them frolic in the fields. It's
almost poetic.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Is it is almost poetic And it is a different
way of doing it. And I don't think I'll be
putting my cows in the house anytime soon, but mostly
because we're lucky on our soil type that we don't
really have to. But we are looking at building a
calving barn which we'll be able to put our cows
in when they're having their babies and just pay a
bit more attention to them and take a bit of
(18:35):
kre So that's what we're over here looking at, really,
is how these fellows do it and what sort of
set ups they have, and they suddainly know how to
do it well.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, talking about babies, you've got three kids in the hubby.
Are you all going over there together?
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I've bought them with me, Jamie the keys. I bought
Nana and Popper too, because they're a bit hard to wrestle.
Three kids on a plane with just me and Chris.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh absolutely, okay, let's head down south because you're farming,
Emma Paul in the White Catto region, your younger brother,
your older brother, Tim Dangeon has gone south to make
his fortune sheer milking for Simon Hopcroft down in Riverton,
the river era of the South. Are you started to
dry off? Tim? How's the season being?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
You're going, Dami good to be here first day of
dryof today, which is quite exciting. So one hundred and
fifty going out and which leaves us about six hundred
more to do over the next ten days. So it's
a busy time of year, isn't it. But we're very
lucky with the weather. The weather's playing balls, so great
conditions to get cows ride off safely and then transitioned
onto crop safely as well. So looking forward to the
(19:38):
end of the season. But it's it's been a good
one mate, a sensational autumn, and I think Southlanders will
be pretty happy really with how things have tracked. The
region's up about seven percent I think on milk production.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
So yeah, very very good.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And unlike your sister, your younger sister, Emma, you're not
silly enough to milk cows all year round.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
No, you'd certainly need a barna and here to be
able to do that in the Southland. But there are
a few barns going on going up in the South
End at the moment. Jamie is obviously a bit of
cash around, so farmers are looking for opportunities to invest
to improve productivity and mainly come up with wintering solutions,
which is the most challenging time of year for doing
farmers in Southland. So complete polar officer to what Emma's
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looking at. But no, it's interesting to see it happening
around us. A couple of our neighbors have got barns
going on, so it's fruti for thought for thoughts suddenly,
And yeah, it's very interesting seeing what Emma and Chris
were up to over there as well. And they're very
good at being able to come up with a way
to be able to ride a holiday off. I'd say, Jamie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Tex deductible holiday, fair enough thought I would do the
same with myself. Tim has to move south to the
Eldorado of Southland, to Riverton in your case have been
a worthwhile move. You don't look back in Anger.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Oh no, no, Jamie, We've really enjoyed it. We've been
very lucky to be well supported down here with a
great community, great farm owned is and some sensational staff
that we've been able to employ. So we've really enjoyed ourselves. Obviously,
the payouts been their good year to get into it
and looking forward to the next twelve months as well
as it's looking pretty promising, isn't it. I think it's
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awesome to see that it's some serious momentum behind all
of the primary sept of it, particularly the dairy sector.
At the moment. If you stick up three good payouts
in a row, then I think you've got to be
pretty happy, and all farmers should be making money at
the moment. So it's an exciting time to be part
of a great industry.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, the income side of the ledge is very good,
the cost sides creeping up there. Okay, just just to
wrap this on a scale of one to ten, what's
the future for the dairy industry? And I'm looking and
Tim you can comment on this one as well. This
protein boom in the United States, which is going to
spread around the world off the back of people wanting
high quality protein when they're taking these weight loss drugs
(21:53):
like a zempic in that the sky is the limit.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
The sky is the limit, And yeah, protein is absolute
key for this world to go around Jamien over here,
seeing the scale that they're producing this milk on and
producing that protein, you can see there's a hunger and
a drive from the world to get that and you're
not going to get any better source of protein than
from animals. So yeah, ten out of ten ores in
the dairy industry's got a bright future.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Are you going ten out of ten? Some dungeon outself.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Yeah, he struggled to get me off a ten, I think, Jamie.
I think yeah. Some fundamentals that really excite me are
that the sector has been stress tested in the last
few years. Really, when you look at international markets and
the geopolitical scene, it's all been very unstable, but particularly
Fonterra has done a fantastic job. We've still being able
to derive some decent profits from a challenging period of time,
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isn't it. So that gives me a lot of confidence.
And I think as well, when you look at New
Zealand's wide economic situation, it seriously needs dairy to be
leading the forefront of what is a recovery from a recession.
So I think it's got We need to be excited
about plenty of guts about what the future can hold.
It's exciting timely.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, you won't get an argument from me. Tim Dangel
enjoy drying off of such a thing as possible. And
Emma Paul you enjoy are your tax deductible holiday in Australia.
Thanks for your time today, you too.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Cheers, Cheers Jamie. I must have find a.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Good on you guys. Yeah, I spose actually I should
have rephrased that with Tim. Probably dairy farmers I'm imagining
do enjoy drying off. It's like the end of lamming.
That was always a celebration when you were a sheep farmer.
Talking about sheep farming. We've got some great news for
you in Rural News with Michelle about the wall market.
At the moment it's going gangbusters about time too, so
(23:39):
Rural News Sports News will update the PGA golf tournament
in Pennsylvania before the end of the hour. Michael Fox
is entertaining hosting the EU Ambassador, who's a real good block,
Lawrence Meredith in the Bay of Plenty Today, Parker wrapping
(24:01):
dairy Week here on the country, the chief executive of
dairy en Z, welcome back to the country, twenty three
(24:26):
away from one on Pink Shirt Day, Anti Bullying Day.
Michelle's in here. She's claiming that I've bullied her by
not letting her drive the new Isuzu m UX seven.
Hold your powder for a moment, Michelle, because speaking of Isuzu,
the long backed, hard working kiwis. And if you're in
(24:49):
farming trades or rural life, chances are you already know why.
These are vehicles built with real truck DNA. The Dmax
ute brings a three liter turbo diesel engine with three
three and a half done towing capacity and the strength
and durability to handle whatever the farm or the job
site throws at it, season after season. And if you
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need the extra seats like me to put your golf
clubs in, you get the m Ux SUV gives you
seven of them. You can fold them all down. You've
got a huge backboot. Then same towing power as the Dmax,
just more room for the family or the crew or
the golf clubs. Okay, here's the deal. From the fifth
to the seventh of June, as we head into field days,
the midyear muster sail is on at Isuzu dealerships nationwide.
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It's your chance to get an out the gate deal
on a new Dmax or the m Ux. That's the Asuv,
and every new Isuzu comes with a double tough six
year warranty for genuine peace of mind. Don't sit on
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seventh or the fifth to the seventh of June and
get a deal done. And the reason you're not allowed
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to drive the country branded Isuzu m Ux seven seat
of michells because it was brand you like two days old.
When we're heading to the southern field days, you spilt
coffee all over it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I wish you'd start repeating the story in case thosees
who are listening to this and they get it back
and they realize.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Is coffee stones. No, we immediately cleaned it up. We did,
but it's the worst thing you can do to someone's
new vehicle. It's still smelting you. It's got the leather
seats and coffee all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I surprised at you how back that day. Actually you
didn't say anything to me when you did.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
When I did that, I did when you were listening. Anyhow,
it's anti bullying day. I can't do that. Where where's
lashes when you need them? Anyhow? Here's Michelle or Throal
News some good news about wool.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
The country's rural news with Cob Cadet. New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brands its steel for dot cot
On ins for your local stockist.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So most recent results on the National Will price update
so worth the strong New Zealand Strong Will indicate it
it's up thirty eight cents and I think it's up
to around six dollars or just over in some cases
as well, which is up quite a lot. I think
it's the highest eleven news or something I've read somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Earlier to well, maybe even more National Strong Wool Indicator
because they used to have a South Island Strong Wool
Indicator and a North Island Strong Wall Indicator. Of course
they've got the national sales on in christ Church. He
as you said, up thirty eight cents for Strong Will
one hundred percent of the offering soul. This a bit
of a shortfall because they only had five one hundred
bls on offer, which was just under half the expected
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rosted amount. So long long may strong will go. Well
what else you got?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So the country's major agricultural lenders are saying that renewed
probability and sheep and beef is offsetting the need for
increased working capital on farms. So livestock values and farmgate
returns it up considerably from where they have been in
previous seasons as global demand for protein and the shortage
of supplying key regions drives up prices. And you can
read more about that on the Country dot co dot nz.
(27:51):
He's Jamie Wassport.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Sport on the country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
There's discussed. What's happened to my screen? Well, there it
is there. I almost lost sports news. That would have
been a disaster, but here it is. It's re appaired.
Masters golf champ Rory McElroy's struggled and his opening round
at the PGA Championship Major in Pennsylvania, the Norrish, the
Northern Irish greats, boged five of his last six holes.
(28:20):
I'd hate that to card a four over seventy four.
That's seven shots adrift of the six clubhouse leaders, including
defending American champions Scottie Scheffler, who are all tied on
three under the Kiwis have done all right. Ryan Fox
and Daniel Hillier sit at even par and one over par, respectively,
(28:40):
so they're still well within a shout of having a
crack at this one. So well done Ryan Fox and
Daniel Hillier, who of course won the New Zealand Open.
What a chris ballstriker he is. Okay, we are going
to take a break on the other side of it.
Have you teed up the Zesbury guys, I have right.
Hopefully we're heading to the Bay a Plenty where Zespury
is hosting the U e UE Ambassador Lawrence Meredith. That's
(29:04):
up next on the Country. Welcome back to the country.
We're going to somewhere in the Bay of Plenty. The
Kiwi fruit capital of the country. Would have to be Tapoke,
wouldn't it. Michael Fox, head of global public affairs for Zesprey,
Good afternoon, How are you good?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Afternoon? Jimmy, How are you good?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Whereabouts are you today? Tapoki?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
We're actually in much of Pihi today, so sort of
near and more in central Titana at night took Ange's orchards.
So we've got the inbassadors of the EU, Germany, France, Spain,
the Netherlands and Island with a deputy from Italy today.
So we've got what feels like all of Europe's representation
in Titana today.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And you've got the European Union Ambassadors to New Zealand.
Lawrence Meredith ran into him last year at the Primary
Industry's conference and awards. He's a champion. I did say
to have nothing good happens after midnight. He's a bit
of a tiger. Did you notice that he is?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
He is?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I'm not sure he's learned that Lucien Jammie, but he
is certainly a really great advocate for Europe and good company.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's a very good company. So this is celebrating or
marking two years since the EU Free Trade Agreement came
into force on May one, twenty twenty four. How good
has it been for the Kiwi fruit industry.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
It's been a yeah, it's been a great deal for us.
So we you know, two years since we've seen about
one hundred and fifty million dollars in teriff relief. But
I guess the key thing is that it's allowed us
to develop the market. So Europe is now last year,
so we'll release I've interviewed the results next week. But
last year we sold over one hundred million trees in
Europe for the first time and about two point three
billion dollars worth of sales in Europe, so the market's
(30:46):
growing really really strongly. We expect to outdo that again
this year. And that's you know, obviously New Zealand fruit,
but also we have growing partners growers in Europe as well,
so the market we're usually confident. But Jesus, the deal
has been here, it's been a really really strong.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
One for us. So what did you say an excess
of two billions that I picked that up correctly.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Yeah, it's about two point three billions.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, okay, Well, and the key we ford exports or
what four or five billion? Is that I'm assuming that
makes it our biggest market or does it?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
It is?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
It is out Yeah, as a whole, Europe is the largest.
I think it's about one and three pieces of fruit
that we grow as sold there. So yeah, so yeah,
it hugely strong opportunity for us. That total revenue last
year was about or the year before was a bit
of a five billion dollars and we expect obviously whatever
our financial results next year, but it's certainly a really
really strong market.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So what are you impressing upon all these ambassadorial types
today in a bay.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, I think the chemists are just as partnership, you know.
So we talk about improving market access when it comes
to free trade agreements, but you kind of don't succeed by,
you know, by by operating alone. So as I said,
we sell a lot of fruit into Europe and we
provide really high quality fruit to really healthy, conscious consumers.
But at the same time we have we have you know,
fourteen hundred odd growers around the world, we have supply
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chain partners around the world. So the Zespri success six
she is a really strong story for Europe as well,
because we support those growing communities and we support those
businesses we partner with there, and so I messages, you know,
we're doing this together, and she does a really good
opportunity moving forward.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Hey, it just finally I take it all the croppers
off as the harvest completely finished.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Only for gold. So the gold, the gold, the red
harvest is complete, and about ninety eight percent sold through
gold basically all packed, but greens still got a waste
to go. Green's only about thirty percent packed.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Wow, it's a long season, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
It is again, it's a lot of fruit to peck.
About one hundred and thirty one hundred what two hundred
and thirty I think our number as I see one
hundred and thirty million trees. So a lot of a
lot of fruit to peck and sell for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, Michael Fox, what did I say, Michael Fox?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Did I?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, it is Michael Fox. Sorry, Michael, I'm just trying
to read too many pieces of paper at once. You are,
of course, you've got a very important title, your Zesper's
head of Global Public Affairs. Thanks for some of your
time and good luck with Lawrence tonight. Tell him I'll
be looking for him, looking for him at Field Days
and the Primary Industry Awards.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Nice time. We do appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Thank you, chairs Michael Fox. There. Yeah, he's a cracker.
He's a really smart guy. I must get him on
the show. Lawrence Meredith the European Union Ambassador to New Zealand.
Great company too, Okay, up next it is Campbell Parker
as we wrap Dairy Week here on the country.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Dairy Week on the country thanks to Meridian and Farmland's
making moving day easier for farmers.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
But down it is Dairy Week here on the country
and it's been brought to you by Meridian and Farmlands.
We've had a lot of interesting chats this week. I
thought I would wrap it and wrap it with the
bow with thek in charge of well looking after the
dairy farmers in some ways in New Zealand. Here Dairy
(34:06):
and zed's chief executive Campbell Parker and Campbell I want
to talk about the changing landscape for dairy farming. I
was chatting to Heather Duplessy Allen last night on z
B and we were talking about these dairy conversions in Canterbury.
It seems there's going to be more of them than
originally expected.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
How are you, Jomy, Look, the first thing I'd say
about the dairy sector, let's come to the conversions. But
you know, dairy is the mainstay of this New Zealand's
economy and the prosperity and in the community. So you know,
we do do dairy well in this country and that
should be celebrated. That's my first point in terms of
Canterbury conversions, there's lots of mixed numbers that you hear,
but I was in Canterbury myself this week and I'll
(34:48):
just put the flavor around talking to one farm of
the year who's converting. So A, it's coming out of
cropping land and it's going into dairy at a lower
footprint than was previously farmed. That's the first point. The
second point is they are including storage. They're effluent at
five times more than what they're required to by the
council because they actually want to put that across one
(35:08):
hundred percent of the land. So the point around that
is farm has been a lot more precise about how
they're doing it, and you know the leading practices in
Canterbury are very good around that. So yes, the activity
is happening, but it's very different than what people may
have a lens of historic conversions.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, we're looking at maybe an extra twenty five thousand
dairy cows over the next couple of years. Interestingly, the
total number a nationwide has dropped about two percent. And
I guess when you look at land use change and
a perfect example Campbell would be the buyer plenty. I
know some of that really good dairy country is going
into kiwi fruit.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Will we do this?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
You know, Jamie, that the annual dairy statistics and you're
right there has you know, numbers of cows have come
well off the peak from twenty fifteen and we see
about one hundred and fifteen to one hundred and twenty
farms go out of dairy production either into things like
qut culture sure, you know, urban sprawl or amalgamations on
an annual basis, and that's a trend that is continuing.
(36:07):
So you know we'll get balanced up somewhere else as well.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
What do you got going at field days as we're
counting the sleeps now, well, what's a month away?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah, Look, Field does ys are really important, you know
part of the calendar. I look forward to being there.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
It's a busy time.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
We'll be in three main spots, so we'll be in
our own one of the main pavilion, so we'll be
showcasing some of the critical work we're doing for farmers
access to where some of the science has been done
around what and how that links to research farms. We'll
be in the Science and Farmers Hub, so that's really
important around some of those bigger sector pieces that we're
(36:41):
doing around things like resilient pasts, is dairy beef and
where the sector is going. We'll also be in the
advocacy hub along with Federated Farmers around the whole policy.
You know, we've got general election this year and we've
got a small site for our dairy training business as well,
so you know, skills and supporting farmers with so we'll.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Be well represented.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Darry is our biggest industry. We need it now more
than ever. The income side of the ledger has been
pretty good for the past couple of seasons. It looks
like it's going to be pretty positive as we look
ahead to the next season as well. The cost side
of the ledge is not quite as good. And you
guys at Dairy and Z talk about the five f's.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, we do jo meiga and you know that's been
driven by some of the crisis that's happening at the
moment off shore, but that's around fuel, fertilizer, feed, freight
and finance, but definitely on farm cost pressures and I
think that a couple of key things is done in cannibally.
This week took to number of farmers that are definitely
seeing it come through in all of those categories, so
(37:44):
the margins will get squeezed. Price is good, but cost
is definitely going up, so keeping an eye on that.
But it really goes back to our point of advantage,
which is home grown feed. So you know, the best farmers,
regardless of system, are good at measuring performance during grass
and converting it into milk and proteins. So you know,
back to some of those basics become really important when
(38:06):
you come under under cost pressure.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
And how good with the New Zealand Airy Industry Awards
last Saturday night and wrote the rower.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, wonderful celebration.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I heard Graham McCullum give you a bit of a
you know, a wind up about coming into a video.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
But look, Grant, his name's Grant McCullum. He'll be upset
that he didn't get his name right there, geez, but
he's a forgettable character. I don't blame you.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You carry on, Yeah, but purposeful.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Look wonderful evening, six hundred and forty people in the
room and celebration right across the sector. I mean the
sectors in great heart, but we should always come together
and celebrate. And what I love about those Awards is
it's where the emerging leaders come through that will take
the sector forward, whether it be training farm manager or
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sheer farmers.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
So wonderful celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Campbell Parker, chief executive of Dairy and Zed and you
my friend rap Dairy Week here on the country with
Meridian and Farmlands. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Thanks Jami, Well look forward to seeing it two of those.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Indeed, thanks Campbell Hey. Final word to farm strong, farm
strong or farmers tell farm strong that coping with the
ups and downs of farming is a lot easier when
you share the load. That's why it's great to have
a NATA and get things off your chest. So make
time this weekend to catch up with a mate over
a coffee or a beer. Talking to others is a
great way to lighten the backpack. That's very creative and
(39:27):
boost your mood. For more tips, head to the farm
Strong website. I'm going to be talking to a whole
lot of farmers this weekend Tomorrow night and Lawrence. It
is the New Zealand Century Farm and Station Awards recognize
recognizing farms in this country that have been in the
same family ownership for one hundred years or more. There's
twelve of them been in family ownership for one hundred
(39:50):
and fifty years. And there's one farm tomorrow Night that
was owned before we signed the Treaty of White Tonguey
in eighteen forty, the Matthews O'Callaghan farm from Northland. We'll
see you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
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Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to a Suzu get demo
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
I know a few guests who thought they were pretty smart,
but you've got to be in right down.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
To thank you genius.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Your drama at the wall, your regular original know it
at all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I thank your spensud.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so you're a rocket scientist.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That don't impress me. Get on New Zealand. Welcome to
the Country. I'm Jamie McKay just trying to get a
hold of Chris briendoleno me. We're having no luck, so
we might have to go to second cab off the rank,
which is good really because it's our keynote interview for today.
Doctor John Roach. Here's a bloke with two really important jobs.
(01:12):
Not only is he the Chief Science Advisor to MPI,
he's also the chief science advisor to the Prime Minister,
Doctor John Roach. To kick off the show today, Chris
Brandelino will track him down at some stage between now
and the end of the hour. Friday's weather Man, Today's
Farmer Panel Emma Paul and Tim Dangen brother and sister,
(01:33):
both former Young Farmers of the Year. Emma is an
Australia at the moment and Tim is drying off on
his Riveton dairy farm as we speak. Michael Fox is
Zespery's head of Global public Affairs. Today Zespery is hosting
the EU Ambassador and a whole lot of other ambassadorial
(01:55):
type people in the Bay of Plenty as they mark
two years since the eu FTA came into force on
the first of twenty twenty four. Doesn't seem that long ago,
does it. And it's Dairy Week here on the country
as we count down to Moving Day with Meridian and Farmlands,
they're sponsoring Dairy Week. So we're going to wrap it
(02:18):
with the bow with the bloke who's in charge of
the industry, good body in this country. His name is
Campbell park A, chief executive of Dairy en Z. A
lot of dairy activity happening in Canterbury at the moment.
We'll have a look at that one and the environmental
footprint as well. We'll have rural news and sports news
for you. Watched a bit of the golf this morning,
(02:39):
although of the four majors, the PGA's kind of the
least exciting. The Masters is my favorite, probably followed by
the US Open, then the Open, British Open, and the
PGA would come in forth. Anyhow, it's been a bit
of a battle for a lot of those golf as
the key we guys are doing all right, got all
that to do between now and the end of the hour.
(03:01):
Doctor John Roach kicks off the country. He is doctor
John Roach. He is mpi's chief Science Advisor. If that's
(03:24):
not enough, he's the Prime Minister's science advisor. He joins
us on the country. It is dairy week here on
the Country, John, You've got a good dairy background. You
grew up on a dairy farm in Ireland as a
young man. Mind you, dairy farms and island back in
those days weren't very big.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Jeremie. Hey, thanks for having me on. Yes,
I did look and I think that stood to me
my entire life. I'm still an early riser. Most people
think I'm crazy. I'm not walking the dog at five
o'clock in the morning now rather than milking cows. But yeah,
like it was a great way to grow up, and
back then we would have been regarded as a relatively
(04:02):
large farm in Ireland. My father would have been milking
just over sixty cows. My brother is still on that
farm and he's milking two hundred and twenty cows now.
So you know, the milk quota and the common agricultural
policy environment of the EU created a very strange ecosystem
for dairy farming.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I was lucky enough to lead a farming tour over
to the UK and Ireland in two thousand and three,
and the one thing that stuck in my head, other
than your smoky bars, because you hadn't been smoking in
bars at that stage, was the size of the cows,
John Roch. They were like houses.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
They were look many countries make poor decisions, and I
think one of the poor decisions was Ireland followed the
rest of the world in growing bigger cows because bigger
cows can eat more and can therefore produce more milk,
and the simplistic belief that more milk meant more profit.
(04:57):
We were fortunate in the early nineteen nineties we brought
in a number of New Zealand dairy advisors into the country.
Sharon and Alistair Rain were two that when I was
getting involved in dairy came in. Sharon and Alistair are
now farming in Canterbury themselves. But my brother joined one
(05:17):
of Sharon's discussion groups and to learn more about how
New Zealand farmed grass and how they were an incredibly
profitable dairy sector without any subsidies. And of course through
that we learned the value of a multi trade index
and started breeding back towards a smaller cow, more like
a New Zealand. A robust, resilient cow that was highly profitable,
(05:41):
could get pregnant easily, could produce large volumes of milk
and coagrid as well. So that's changed a lot as well.
Used to have farms with very big cows, but the
vast majority of dairy farms across island now have a
New Zealand type cow.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Ye're a year or so into your job as the
Prime Minister's Science Advisor. How's it gone. How do you
split your time between MPI and the Prime Minister's office.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, that's a good question. That varies on a dai
to day basis. It really depends on the demands. But
I think it's gone. Well, look I go back. It
is just over a year. It's a year ago last
week actually that the Prime Minister announced it, and I
was in Ireland at the time for a private visit,
and you know, he had mentioned to me that he
had looked at the Irish system and he was really
(06:27):
impressed with how the science, innovation and technology system had
helped Ireland post GFC. I mean, everybody will know that
Ireland at a very difficult time coming out of the
GFC from an economic point of view. And so I
said to him, I said, well, look, I'm over there
in a couple of weeks, why don't I repurpose a
week of leave and get to meet some of the
(06:49):
departments and the research funding agencies and just see what
they did. And one of those meetings was with the
former Secretary General of Science Foundation Ireland, so the the
funding agency, and he also happened to have been the
Chief Scientist at the same time. And I've talked to
the Mark Ferguson doctor from Mark Ferguson is his name,
and I've talked to him a number of times since,
(07:10):
and just the pearls of wisdom that he was able
to provide to me about what Ireland did in that
time in prioritization and what he was able to do
for the Irish Prime Minister. The t shock at the
time gave me a great sense of enablement. I felt
(07:30):
like I wasn't quite drowning. In the same way I
had a fair degree of impostor syndrome Jimmy, if I'm
honest When the Prime Minister asked me to step into
such a big role, Mark gave me a bit of
confidence that I could probably do the role, but also
most importantly the importance of the role and the science
reforms that we were initiating in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
MPI, as always will have a huge prisons at Field
days when we look at the egg and science. How
do things like AI for instance come and to play
now obviously more and more on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Absolutely absolutely. Actually I was at the South Island Area
event last month and we had a session on that
and a farmer from Taranaki Hid and Laurens spoke about
how he was using it in his own business or
just playing playing with it to see how we could
use it most effectively. It is coming in increasingly when
we will have it. One of the sites that MPI
(08:26):
is sponsoring alongside partners at Field is the Science for
Farmer's site, which you'll have visited with us last last year.
It's bigger and better. But one of our modules this
year will be working with some of our partners to
show farmers how we can develop technologies for them in
(08:46):
real time. So we're going to try and run it
in real time with farmers coming through helping us improve
some of those products using artificial intelligence and some of
the associated technologies.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Hey, doctor John Roach, mpi's chief Science Advisor, Science Advisor
to the Prime Minister. I could chat to you all
day with that lovely Irish lot, but I haven't got
all day, nor have you. You're a very busy man.
Thanks for some of your time today.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Ah look, I appreciate you. Up to you, Jeremy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Pleasure is all mine. John Quarter, past twelve years with
the country. Can't find my Friday with the man Chris Brandolina.
I'll have another crack after the break. I know that
Emma Pool's and Australia Tim dungeons in South and that's
today's farmer panel. Michael Fox, he's zespri's head of Global
(09:37):
Public Affairs. Big day in the Bay are plenty today
they're hosting the EU Ambassador and Campbell Parker, chief executive
of dairy and z perhaps dairy week here on the country.
As we count down to moving day and field days,
lots of stuff happening. Remember, if you move with Meridian
you can enjoy an account credited up to three hundred dollars.
(09:58):
Teas and sees apply. And also if you move with
Meridian you can charge it through your Farmland's card. What
can you not put on that magnificent Farmland's card. Okay,
we'll have a crack at Chris Brandolino next on the country,
I think you.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That don't impress me much.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Whether on the country with Fiji, where happiness comes naturally
a woman wants.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Welcome back to the country. I found my favorite weather
man on a Friday. I thought he'd I thought he
had forsaken me. Maybe he'd gone to talk to another
radio show. We'd been unfaithful to me, one of these
rip off shows that's trying to do what we do.
I shouldn't say that, good luck. The more rural broadcast
is the better. Is it a bit like do you
have that collegiality with weather men?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yes, that's not a very convincing.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yess it is.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We get on with everyone. We have all of God's creatures,
human and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well, let's stick to your specialist topic today, the weather.
When when do you, guys, I'm assuming at some stage
because you come out with some forecast, and an autumn forecast,
a spring forecast, when when is your winter forecast released?
Which begs the question when does winter officially begin? Is
it June one?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Jamie? We don't issue a winter outlook. No, I'm kidding.
We do issue a winter outlook, of course, and that
will be it depends on We go by the meteorological definition.
So the star of each quarter, so June one, from
a meteorological definition, is the start of winter. Now, I
know there's some og you know, real like strict interpreters.
(12:07):
I used to be one of them. Where No, No,
it's when the solstice or the equinox. That's the astronomical definition.
And the reason we don't use that in terms of
our purpose is Jamie, is because it's for bookkeeping. If
we want to keep records like it was the fifth
wettest it was the second warmest you know, season on record,
be it winter, spring, et cetera. We have to go
(12:27):
by the beginning and the end of a month, because
it just makes things a lot cleaner. So that outlook
will be coming on Tuesday, the second of it's the
day after. It's the Tuesday after King's Birthday weekend, so
that's when the winter outlook will come. Put it in
your calendar, Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
In the main time, I'm here in the South Island anyhow,
we've got a dirty it's not a dirty. It's so wonderful.
It's a big and beautiful as Trump would say, Hi,
I plunked over us would which I hike to bring
your favorite politician into the conversation. But it's really good.
I love, I love with the like this, especially in
the winter. You get a frosty start in the way
(13:04):
you go it. Sunshine and beautiful.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah, we're gonna get plenty of those for the next
few days. I mean the big old we were talking
just before airtime, big old high. You've got the home barometer.
This is up there around ten forty hecta Pascos ten
thirty eight as it moves over the South Island this weekend.
So sunny days, foggy morning kind of watch up for
the black lives if you're traveling early in the morning
because of the moisture and the Chili temperatures and that
(13:28):
will continue to give us some dry conditions. And what
we're going to see, Jamie, as we move into the
winter season proper, especially July, August and beyond, we're going
to see our conditions pivoting to more al Anina like.
So what does that mean for the winter. We get
these large highs, we get settle conditions, fogs and frosts,
(13:49):
We tend to get more southwesterly winds, so that means
we don't get air flows coming from the north. I mean,
that will happen on occasion, but there's a reduction. That
is the key, and we have to watch out for
winter dry As we talked about this before winter drawn
its apart from say Southland, apart from say the west
of the South Island. So we'll park them aside for
now because this is, as you know, farmers no groundwater
(14:11):
recharge season. And if we don't get adequate rainfall during winter,
we're starting off the next growing season on the back
foot and that's not a good thing. And as we
look farther afield Boy, just a heads up everyone, I mean,
we'll update you as we go through the next several
weeks and months of course, but August, September, October looking
very windy, especially for the South Island, but not limited
(14:34):
to very windy, could be unusually dry, could be quite
wet for the western and lower South Island. And this
could be very unsettled. So this is something we're watching.
Later in winter and into spring, could be some really
impactful weather, some really ups and downs where we get
these really unusually sharp, spiky warm days and then follow
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by a pretty dramatic cold snap. So we've got some
potentially turbulent weather coming again. This is August and beyond,
so just a heads up, plenty of time to plan
for it. But we could be looking at some pretty
dry conditions as you work away through winter and spring,
particularly eastern sides of Boath Violands and northern sides of
both Violons. Plenty of watch that by look, I hear Shanaia,
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which means you know, I got to stop and I
got to wrap it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Up to you. Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Song?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
This is.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Chris Brand and Lena is my favorite weather man out
of Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No, No, It's anywhere. The Man of Mind by Shania Twain,
Dedicated to you.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah, thank you, see ya, Hi buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
By bye it's a wee bit worrying the super al
Nino landing and Southland might be enjoy this spring, but
perhaps of more worry might be the east coast of
both islands if it's particularly windy and dry. So got
a forward planning there. I guess you have been worn.
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But where the forecasting is to degree and imprecise science,
isn't it? Okay? Up next, we're going to talk to
a couple of farmers, very clever young farmers, smart enough
to win the Young Farmer of the Air Grand Final.
Emma Paul and Tim Dangen. Next on the Country.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Let's go girls.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
We are wrapping Dairy Week here on the Country with
Meridian and Farmlands as we count down to Moving Day
at the end of the month. We've got a couple
of dynamic young dairy farmers. In fact, they're so good
at their craft they are both former New Zealand Young
Farmers of the Year, Emma Paul and her older brother
Tim dang Emma, I want to start with you. Normally
a white caddo dairy farmer, mum of three and a
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vet to boot. But today you're swaning about in Australia.
Are you on holiday? On the Gold Coast or something.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Yeah, good, Jamie, good to be here.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Not on the Gold Coast, unfortunately, we were up in Sheperton,
which is just north of Melbourne there, so yeah, less sunshine,
but it is actually pretty good weather here today and
it's a completely different scene to what we see there
in New Zealand. And there's a lot less greenery, that's
for sure.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think for pastoral farming, you'd take New Zealand every
day of the week, but they do it differently in Australia.
They have more housed cows than we do.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yes, that's what we're over here, having a look at
a bit of investigative work on our parts, just seeing
how a different system really and how they house cattle
and how they're milking them. And there's some incredible setups
over here. They're virtually in sort of day that land,
there's nothing green around them, and then they've got these
big houses with these cows on them and they look
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absolutely comfortable under the shade there with the fans on
them and little misters going to keep the animals cool.
So it's pretty impressive to see. And some of these
animals are cranking out a thousand kilograms of milk so
per cow per year. So that's pretty incredible stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Why would we bother hows and cows, especially you and
the white Catto region there we grow bountiful amounts of grass.
You can just let them frolic in the fields. It's
almost poetic.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Is it is almost poetic And it is a different
way of doing it. And I don't think I'll be
putting my cows in the house anytime soon, but mostly
because we're lucky on our soil type that we don't
really have to. But we are looking at building a
calving barn which we'll be able to put our cows
in when they're having their babies and just pay a
bit more attention to them and take a bit of
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kre So that's what we're over here looking at, really,
is how these fellows do it and what sort of
set ups they have, and they suddainly know how to
do it well.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, talking about babies, you've got three kids in the hubby.
Are you all going over there together?
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I've bought them with me, Jamie the keys. I bought
Nana and Popper too, because they're a bit hard to wrestle.
Three kids on a plane with just me and Chris.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh absolutely, okay, let's head down south because you're farming,
Emma Paul in the White Catto region, your younger brother,
your older brother, Tim Dangeon has gone south to make
his fortune sheer milking for Simon Hopcroft down in Riverton,
the river era of the South. Are you started to
dry off? Tim? How's the season being?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
You're going, Dami good to be here first day of
dryof today, which is quite exciting. So one hundred and
fifty going out and which leaves us about six hundred
more to do over the next ten days. So it's
a busy time of year, isn't it. But we're very
lucky with the weather. The weather's playing balls, so great
conditions to get cows ride off safely and then transitioned
onto crop safely as well. So looking forward to the
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end of the season. But it's it's been a good
one mate, a sensational autumn, and I think Southlanders will
be pretty happy really with how things have tracked. The
region's up about seven percent I think on milk production.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
So yeah, very very good.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And unlike your sister, your younger sister, Emma, you're not
silly enough to milk cows all year round.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
No, you'd certainly need a barna and here to be
able to do that in the Southland. But there are
a few barns going on going up in the South
End at the moment. Jamie is obviously a bit of
cash around, so farmers are looking for opportunities to invest
to improve productivity and mainly come up with wintering solutions,
which is the most challenging time of year for doing
farmers in Southland. So complete polar officer to what Emma's
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looking at. But no, it's interesting to see it happening
around us. A couple of our neighbors have got barns
going on, so it's fruti for thought for thoughts suddenly,
And yeah, it's very interesting seeing what Emma and Chris
were up to over there as well. And they're very
good at being able to come up with a way
to be able to ride a holiday off. I'd say, Jamie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Tex deductible holiday, fair enough thought I would do the
same with myself. Tim has to move south to the
Eldorado of Southland, to Riverton in your case have been
a worthwhile move. You don't look back in Anger.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Oh no, no, Jamie, We've really enjoyed it. We've been
very lucky to be well supported down here with a
great community, great farm owned is and some sensational staff
that we've been able to employ. So we've really enjoyed ourselves. Obviously,
the payouts been their good year to get into it
and looking forward to the next twelve months as well
as it's looking pretty promising, isn't it. I think it's
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awesome to see that it's some serious momentum behind all
of the primary sept of it, particularly the dairy sector.
At the moment. If you stick up three good payouts
in a row, then I think you've got to be
pretty happy, and all farmers should be making money at
the moment. So it's an exciting time to be part
of a great industry.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, the income side of the ledge is very good,
the cost sides creeping up there. Okay, just just to
wrap this on a scale of one to ten, what's
the future for the dairy industry? And I'm looking and
Tim you can comment on this one as well. This
protein boom in the United States, which is going to
spread around the world off the back of people wanting
high quality protein when they're taking these weight loss drugs
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like a zempic in that the sky is the limit.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
The sky is the limit, And yeah, protein is absolute
key for this world to go around Jamien over here,
seeing the scale that they're producing this milk on and
producing that protein, you can see there's a hunger and
a drive from the world to get that and you're
not going to get any better source of protein than
from animals. So yeah, ten out of ten ores in
the dairy industry's got a bright future.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Are you going ten out of ten? Some dungeon outself.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Yeah, he struggled to get me off a ten, I think, Jamie.
I think yeah. Some fundamentals that really excite me are
that the sector has been stress tested in the last
few years. Really, when you look at international markets and
the geopolitical scene, it's all been very unstable, but particularly
Fonterra has done a fantastic job. We've still being able
to derive some decent profits from a challenging period of time,
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isn't it. So that gives me a lot of confidence.
And I think as well, when you look at New
Zealand's wide economic situation, it seriously needs dairy to be
leading the forefront of what is a recovery from a recession.
So I think it's got We need to be excited
about plenty of guts about what the future can hold.
It's exciting timely.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, you won't get an argument from me. Tim Dangel
enjoy drying off of such a thing as possible. And
Emma Paul you enjoy are your tax deductible holiday in Australia.
Thanks for your time today, you too.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Cheers, Cheers Jamie. I must have find a.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Good on you guys. Yeah, I spose actually I should
have rephrased that with Tim. Probably dairy farmers I'm imagining
do enjoy drying off. It's like the end of lamming.
That was always a celebration when you were a sheep farmer.
Talking about sheep farming. We've got some great news for
you in Rural News with Michelle about the wall market.
At the moment it's going gangbusters about time too, so
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Rural News Sports News will update the PGA golf tournament
in Pennsylvania before the end of the hour. Michael Fox
is entertaining hosting the EU Ambassador, who's a real good block,
Lawrence Meredith in the Bay of Plenty Today, Parker wrapping
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dairy Week here on the country, the chief executive of
dairy en Z, welcome back to the country, twenty three
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away from one on Pink Shirt Day, Anti Bullying Day.
Michelle's in here. She's claiming that I've bullied her by
not letting her drive the new Isuzu m UX seven.
Hold your powder for a moment, Michelle, because speaking of Isuzu,
the long backed, hard working kiwis. And if you're in
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farming trades or rural life, chances are you already know why.
These are vehicles built with real truck DNA. The Dmax
ute brings a three liter turbo diesel engine with three
three and a half done towing capacity and the strength
and durability to handle whatever the farm or the job
site throws at it, season after season. And if you
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need the extra seats like me to put your golf
clubs in, you get the m Ux SUV gives you
seven of them. You can fold them all down. You've
got a huge backboot. Then same towing power as the Dmax,
just more room for the family or the crew or
the golf clubs. Okay, here's the deal. From the fifth
to the seventh of June, as we head into field days,
the midyear muster sail is on at Isuzu dealerships nationwide.
(25:33):
It's your chance to get an out the gate deal
on a new Dmax or the m Ux. That's the Asuv,
and every new Isuzu comes with a double tough six
year warranty for genuine peace of mind. Don't sit on
the fence. Head into your local Isuzu dealership from the
seventh or the fifth to the seventh of June and
get a deal done. And the reason you're not allowed
(25:54):
to drive the country branded Isuzu m Ux seven seat
of michells because it was brand you like two days old.
When we're heading to the southern field days, you spilt
coffee all over it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I wish you'd start repeating the story in case thosees
who are listening to this and they get it back
and they realize.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Is coffee stones. No, we immediately cleaned it up. We did,
but it's the worst thing you can do to someone's
new vehicle. It's still smelting you. It's got the leather
seats and coffee all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I surprised at you how back that day. Actually you
didn't say anything to me when you did.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
When I did that, I did when you were listening. Anyhow,
it's anti bullying day. I can't do that. Where where's
lashes when you need them? Anyhow? Here's Michelle or Throal
News some good news about wool.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
The country's rural news with Cob Cadet. New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brands its steel for dot cot
On ins for your local stockist.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So most recent results on the National Will price update
so worth the strong New Zealand Strong Will indicate it
it's up thirty eight cents and I think it's up
to around six dollars or just over in some cases
as well, which is up quite a lot. I think
it's the highest eleven news or something I've read somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Earlier to well, maybe even more National Strong Wool Indicator
because they used to have a South Island Strong Wool
Indicator and a North Island Strong Wall Indicator. Of course
they've got the national sales on in christ Church. He
as you said, up thirty eight cents for Strong Will
one hundred percent of the offering soul. This a bit
of a shortfall because they only had five one hundred
bls on offer, which was just under half the expected
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rosted amount. So long long may strong will go. Well
what else you got?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So the country's major agricultural lenders are saying that renewed
probability and sheep and beef is offsetting the need for
increased working capital on farms. So livestock values and farmgate
returns it up considerably from where they have been in
previous seasons as global demand for protein and the shortage
of supplying key regions drives up prices. And you can
read more about that on the Country dot co dot nz.
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He's Jamie Wassport.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Sport on the country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
There's discussed. What's happened to my screen? Well, there it
is there. I almost lost sports news. That would have
been a disaster, but here it is. It's re appaired.
Masters golf champ Rory McElroy's struggled and his opening round
at the PGA Championship Major in Pennsylvania, the Norrish, the
Northern Irish greats, boged five of his last six holes.
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I'd hate that to card a four over seventy four.
That's seven shots adrift of the six clubhouse leaders, including
defending American champions Scottie Scheffler, who are all tied on
three under the Kiwis have done all right. Ryan Fox
and Daniel Hillier sit at even par and one over par, respectively,
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so they're still well within a shout of having a
crack at this one. So well done Ryan Fox and
Daniel Hillier, who of course won the New Zealand Open.
What a chris ballstriker he is. Okay, we are going
to take a break on the other side of it.
Have you teed up the Zesbury guys, I have right.
Hopefully we're heading to the Bay a Plenty where Zespury
is hosting the U e UE Ambassador Lawrence Meredith. That's
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up next on the Country. Welcome back to the country.
We're going to somewhere in the Bay of Plenty. The
Kiwi fruit capital of the country. Would have to be Tapoke,
wouldn't it. Michael Fox, head of global public affairs for Zesprey,
Good afternoon, How are you good?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Afternoon? Jimmy, How are you good?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Whereabouts are you today? Tapoki?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
We're actually in much of Pihi today, so sort of
near and more in central Titana at night took Ange's orchards.
So we've got the inbassadors of the EU, Germany, France, Spain,
the Netherlands and Island with a deputy from Italy today.
So we've got what feels like all of Europe's representation
in Titana today.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And you've got the European Union Ambassadors to New Zealand.
Lawrence Meredith ran into him last year at the Primary
Industry's conference and awards. He's a champion. I did say
to have nothing good happens after midnight. He's a bit
of a tiger. Did you notice that he is?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
He is?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I'm not sure he's learned that Lucien Jammie, but he
is certainly a really great advocate for Europe and good company.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's a very good company. So this is celebrating or
marking two years since the EU Free Trade Agreement came
into force on May one, twenty twenty four. How good
has it been for the Kiwi fruit industry.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
It's been a yeah, it's been a great deal for us.
So we you know, two years since we've seen about
one hundred and fifty million dollars in teriff relief. But
I guess the key thing is that it's allowed us
to develop the market. So Europe is now last year,
so we'll release I've interviewed the results next week. But
last year we sold over one hundred million trees in
Europe for the first time and about two point three
billion dollars worth of sales in Europe, so the market's
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growing really really strongly. We expect to outdo that again
this year. And that's you know, obviously New Zealand fruit,
but also we have growing partners growers in Europe as well,
so the market we're usually confident. But Jesus, the deal
has been here, it's been a really really strong.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
One for us. So what did you say an excess
of two billions that I picked that up correctly.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Yeah, it's about two point three billions.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, okay, Well, and the key we ford exports or
what four or five billion? Is that I'm assuming that
makes it our biggest market or does it?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
It is?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
It is out Yeah, as a whole, Europe is the largest.
I think it's about one and three pieces of fruit
that we grow as sold there. So yeah, so yeah,
it hugely strong opportunity for us. That total revenue last
year was about or the year before was a bit
of a five billion dollars and we expect obviously whatever
our financial results next year, but it's certainly a really
really strong market.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So what are you impressing upon all these ambassadorial types
today in a bay.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, I think the chemists are just as partnership, you know.
So we talk about improving market access when it comes
to free trade agreements, but you kind of don't succeed by,
you know, by by operating alone. So as I said,
we sell a lot of fruit into Europe and we
provide really high quality fruit to really healthy, conscious consumers.
But at the same time we have we have you know,
fourteen hundred odd growers around the world, we have supply
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chain partners around the world. So the Zespri success six
she is a really strong story for Europe as well,
because we support those growing communities and we support those
businesses we partner with there, and so I messages, you know,
we're doing this together, and she does a really good
opportunity moving forward.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Hey, it just finally I take it all the croppers
off as the harvest completely finished.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Only for gold. So the gold, the gold, the red
harvest is complete, and about ninety eight percent sold through
gold basically all packed, but greens still got a waste
to go. Green's only about thirty percent packed.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Wow, it's a long season, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
It is again, it's a lot of fruit to peck.
About one hundred and thirty one hundred what two hundred
and thirty I think our number as I see one
hundred and thirty million trees. So a lot of a
lot of fruit to peck and sell for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, Michael Fox, what did I say, Michael Fox?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Did I?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, it is Michael Fox. Sorry, Michael, I'm just trying
to read too many pieces of paper at once. You are,
of course, you've got a very important title, your Zesper's
head of Global Public Affairs. Thanks for some of your
time and good luck with Lawrence tonight. Tell him I'll
be looking for him, looking for him at Field Days
and the Primary Industry Awards.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Nice time. We do appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Thank you, chairs Michael Fox. There. Yeah, he's a cracker.
He's a really smart guy. I must get him on
the show. Lawrence Meredith the European Union Ambassador to New Zealand.
Great company too, Okay, up next it is Campbell Parker
as we wrap Dairy Week here on the country.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Dairy Week on the country thanks to Meridian and Farmland's
making moving day easier for farmers.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
But down it is Dairy Week here on the country
and it's been brought to you by Meridian and Farmlands.
We've had a lot of interesting chats this week. I
thought I would wrap it and wrap it with the
bow with thek in charge of well looking after the
dairy farmers in some ways in New Zealand. Here Dairy
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and zed's chief executive Campbell Parker and Campbell I want
to talk about the changing landscape for dairy farming. I
was chatting to Heather Duplessy Allen last night on z
B and we were talking about these dairy conversions in Canterbury.
It seems there's going to be more of them than
originally expected.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
How are you, Jomy, Look, the first thing I'd say
about the dairy sector, let's come to the conversions. But
you know, dairy is the mainstay of this New Zealand's
economy and the prosperity and in the community. So you know,
we do do dairy well in this country and that
should be celebrated. That's my first point in terms of
Canterbury conversions, there's lots of mixed numbers that you hear,
but I was in Canterbury myself this week and I'll
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just put the flavor around talking to one farm of
the year who's converting. So A, it's coming out of
cropping land and it's going into dairy at a lower
footprint than was previously farmed. That's the first point. The
second point is they are including storage. They're effluent at
five times more than what they're required to by the
council because they actually want to put that across one
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hundred percent of the land. So the point around that
is farm has been a lot more precise about how
they're doing it, and you know the leading practices in
Canterbury are very good around that. So yes, the activity
is happening, but it's very different than what people may
have a lens of historic conversions.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, we're looking at maybe an extra twenty five thousand
dairy cows over the next couple of years. Interestingly, the
total number a nationwide has dropped about two percent. And
I guess when you look at land use change and
a perfect example Campbell would be the buyer plenty. I
know some of that really good dairy country is going
into kiwi fruit.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Will we do this?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
You know, Jamie, that the annual dairy statistics and you're
right there has you know, numbers of cows have come
well off the peak from twenty fifteen and we see
about one hundred and fifteen to one hundred and twenty
farms go out of dairy production either into things like
qut culture sure, you know, urban sprawl or amalgamations on
an annual basis, and that's a trend that is continuing.
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So you know we'll get balanced up somewhere else as well.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
What do you got going at field days as we're
counting the sleeps now, well, what's a month away?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah, Look, Field does ys are really important, you know
part of the calendar. I look forward to being there.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
It's a busy time.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
We'll be in three main spots, so we'll be in
our own one of the main pavilion, so we'll be
showcasing some of the critical work we're doing for farmers
access to where some of the science has been done
around what and how that links to research farms. We'll
be in the Science and Farmers Hub, so that's really
important around some of those bigger sector pieces that we're
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doing around things like resilient pasts, is dairy beef and
where the sector is going. We'll also be in the
advocacy hub along with Federated Farmers around the whole policy.
You know, we've got general election this year and we've
got a small site for our dairy training business as well,
so you know, skills and supporting farmers with so we'll.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Be well represented.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Darry is our biggest industry. We need it now more
than ever. The income side of the ledger has been
pretty good for the past couple of seasons. It looks
like it's going to be pretty positive as we look
ahead to the next season as well. The cost side
of the ledge is not quite as good. And you
guys at Dairy and Z talk about the five f's.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, we do jo meiga and you know that's been
driven by some of the crisis that's happening at the
moment off shore, but that's around fuel, fertilizer, feed, freight
and finance, but definitely on farm cost pressures and I
think that a couple of key things is done in cannibally.
This week took to number of farmers that are definitely
seeing it come through in all of those categories, so
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the margins will get squeezed. Price is good, but cost
is definitely going up, so keeping an eye on that.
But it really goes back to our point of advantage,
which is home grown feed. So you know, the best farmers,
regardless of system, are good at measuring performance during grass
and converting it into milk and proteins. So you know,
back to some of those basics become really important when
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you come under under cost pressure.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
And how good with the New Zealand Airy Industry Awards
last Saturday night and wrote the rower.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, wonderful celebration.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I heard Graham McCullum give you a bit of a
you know, a wind up about coming into a video.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
But look, Grant, his name's Grant McCullum. He'll be upset
that he didn't get his name right there, geez, but
he's a forgettable character. I don't blame you.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You carry on, Yeah, but purposeful.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Look wonderful evening, six hundred and forty people in the
room and celebration right across the sector. I mean the
sectors in great heart, but we should always come together
and celebrate. And what I love about those Awards is
it's where the emerging leaders come through that will take
the sector forward, whether it be training farm manager or
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sheer farmers.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
So wonderful celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Campbell Parker, chief executive of Dairy and Zed and you
my friend rap Dairy Week here on the country with
Meridian and Farmlands. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Thanks Jami, Well look forward to seeing it two of those.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Indeed, thanks Campbell Hey. Final word to farm strong, farm
strong or farmers tell farm strong that coping with the
ups and downs of farming is a lot easier when
you share the load. That's why it's great to have
a NATA and get things off your chest. So make
time this weekend to catch up with a mate over
a coffee or a beer. Talking to others is a
great way to lighten the backpack. That's very creative and
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boost your mood. For more tips, head to the farm
Strong website. I'm going to be talking to a whole
lot of farmers this weekend Tomorrow night and Lawrence. It
is the New Zealand Century Farm and Station Awards recognize
recognizing farms in this country that have been in the
same family ownership for one hundred years or more. There's
twelve of them been in family ownership for one hundred
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and fifty years. And there's one farm tomorrow Night that
was owned before we signed the Treaty of White Tonguey
in eighteen forty, the Matthews O'Callaghan farm from Northland. We'll
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