February 8, 2026 • 37 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Rowland Smith, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, Pita Alexander, Greg Millar, and Jeremy Rookes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you're the latest from the Land. It's The Country
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Gooday, Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm
Jamie mckaye, but a bon John John bon Jovi or
bon Jovi and going down on a blazer glory for
downhill skier Lindsay Vaughn Our first guest. I think he
wants to go out on a blazer glory. His name
is Roland Smith. Yes, he made the New Zealand team
over the weekend. We're going to chat to Roland Smith
(00:59):
about not only the Golden Shares but the World Championships
coming up in early March in Masterton. Today's Farmer Politician
Panel Andrew Hoggard and Grant McCullum, Peter Alexander Farmer coountant
Jeremy Rooks, Canterbury based lifestyle block Hobby Farmer with his
controversial thoughts and some great news about the IHC calf
(01:23):
and Rural Scheme. And of course we've got the Super
Bowl getting underway at twelve thirty New England Patriots up
against the Seattle Seahawks. We will update that one for
you as well. But Roland Smith, congratulations on making the
New Zealand side for the World Sharing Champs. No doubt
you'll be keen to repeat that twenty fourteen victory.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Good afternoon, good aarsenon Jamie It cheers mate. It was
the brutal old battle at Martin on the weekend, so
you're pretty leeved to actually make the team.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah good.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So six of you had to share off for one
spot and it was similar I think with the wall
handling where Marika Braddock of Eketahuna got to join Joel Hennah.
Of course you joined Tower Henderson and the New Zealand team.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, that's right. It was both.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Both selection finals were held at Martin in the afternoon
on Saturday and what an awesome job they did. The
line of sheet they had for us was was awesome.
They so it's exactly how the world final will be.
It was ten four wall, ten second share what we
had to do in the final and it was Yeah,
they were they were strong, physical sheep and I think
everybody came off they're pretty better than bruised and you know,
(02:35):
everything was left out on the board, which is good
to see.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You didn't get home by that much.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
No, No, it was half a point back to Hemi Braddock.
So yeah, very very close the whole, Like say, everybody,
you know, there's nothing left in anyone that it meant
a lot to all of them. And the hardest, well
one of one of the hardest things in our country
is making our team two shares can represent at the world,
so you know, top open shares fighting for that black thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You know, it's pretty awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You mentioned Hemi Braddock. Any relation per chance to Marika.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Pretty sure their brother and sister and it was her
sister last time in Scotland that was representing New Zealand.
So yeah, what a power house family in the sharing industry.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You are going to be pairing up with Toyer Henderson,
who has been over the past couple of seasons anyhow,
the form sharer in New Zealand sharing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Northland boys, so you know, obviously I'm
from the Far North as well, about twenty minutes away
from where Tour is and sort of grew up sharing together,
worked for his dad and so when I was a
young guy, and yeah, what a powerhouse Share of Tour
is such a awesome to watch. He's explosive and exciting.
So now I'm super lucky to have him as my teammate.
(03:51):
I'm really looking forward to that team's event and try
and bring it home.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, well, you'd have to start as reasonably hot favorite,
so I think in New Zealand conditions to win the
team title. But you are also after the individual title.
You'll not only have to head off your teammate, you're
going to have to head off your brother who's sharing
for England.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No, Matt's over here at the moment.
He's actually staying at home, so might be able to
throw a few sneaky punches in there and the rebsit beforehand.
But no, it's pretty awesome to be a part of
family like that. And you know, it's great to see
him part of the team, and you know he's proud,
he's proud to live where he is now. His family's
(04:30):
all brought up over there, and he's super excited to
be here. And he's definitely a big threat. He is
very good for wall sharer and he's a very powerful sharer,
so there's no mistaking that he's certainly here to try
and win.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So what does the next month hold for you, because
it's just over what just under four weeks till Golden
Shares and World Champs weekend at Masterton and the Memorial
Hall there. The roof will be quite literally lifted off.
But I know, let's be honest, roll and you'd soon
puddling around on your digger or driving attractive and sharing
these days, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it was a hard decision to actually make to
compete in the final. It was if you know, if
I it was lucky enough to make the team, it's
certainly going to make the next four weeks extremely hard.
We're busy time of the year for us, lots of
lambs coming on soon, We've got some lands on still
and all the new grass is going in at the
moment starting this week. So we're certainly tapped out, if
(05:28):
you want to call it that. And I don't share
anymore at all, so I'm definitely going to have to
try and share some sheep. And yeah, keep training and
be as fit as I can be. It's certainly not
as easy as when I was a full time share
it so the second nature and you naturally fit, but
definitely definitely not calling myself fit or a natural share anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I'm assuming and I know that Dave, Sir David Fagan,
towards the end of his career, didn't do many I
hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, didn't do
many full days in the shed. You've got to train
yourself for twenty sheep, not eight hundred.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, exactly, it is.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It didn't but like that, you can shoot out to
the shed and do an hour's work and it all
sort of comes rushing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Back to here.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I've been out of the sheds that long now,
it's it's sort of a not second nature anymore. So
if I can, I will get a few days of
sharing him to try and you know, make it nice
and snappy again. It's like anything, you know, the more
prepared we can be, the less there's no room for
mistakes at the end. So now I'm definitely taking it
(06:33):
pretty seriously and pretty pretty proud to be putting that
flex thing let on for potentially the last time.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So yeah, well it's we talked about Lindsay Vaughn going
down on a Blazer glory. This is your chance, quite literally,
I think it's the last chance to learn for you
to go out on a blazer glory.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, certainly, certainly not looking at doing too
much or more of it, so you know it is
it is a huge honor to put that sing that
on and to you know, to be able to finally
have a crack and zeeland at a world.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know we're titled how good is that?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know they're our sheep and you know we brought
out sharing them, which is going to be Yeah, it's
going to be pretty pretty exciting and I'm really looking
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And how good's farming and hawks by at the moment
Roland Smith. After that rain you've had recently.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, certainly looking gooder than it's look it said as
early days. Yet Februy can be an interesting month and
so can March. But yeah, I know the drill drills
come out of the shed this week, so we'll some
are fellow How good is that you are getting all
that rain on? How some are fellow ground so we
can start killing now, which is which is pretty awesome.
Certainly been given a bit of a hand at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, Roland Smith, We're very proud of you, along with
Toyer Henderson, the Sharers representing us in the world Championships
and Joel Hennahra and Marika Braddock as well in the
war handling. It's going to be fantastic, can't wait.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Looking forward to it, mate, and
we'll keep in touch.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Good on you. There we go.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Roland Smith added to the New Zealand Sharing team for
the World Sharing Championships in Marsterton in early March. Up
next on the Country. Well, these two are farmers. They're
not probably quite as energetic as Roland, I wouldn't think,
as they're politicians now as well. So it is Grant McCallum,
(08:24):
Andrew Hoggard, Peter Alexander Farmer coountant on the show today,
Jeremy Rooks and if I can track him down, Greg
Miller from the ic Calf and Rural Scheme. Thanks to
you farmers, we're back past pre m Bovis and pre
COVID numbers when it comes to raising money for the
IHC Calf and Rural Scheme, where we've got a special
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celebrity sports newsreader coming in here. At least I think
he's coming in here. Remember that Super Bowl Final it's
number lex what's that is that? That's sixty? You think
isn't it. Yeah, gets underway at twelve. Will keep you
updated on that one. New England Patriots, Tom Brady's old
team up against the Seattle Seahawks, who will start as
(09:08):
the favorites. It is National Lamb Day on Sunday, February
the fifteenth, but before then we've got the Waimumu Field Days,
(09:29):
the Southern Field Days that gore lots of activity there
on Friday, and before that we've got the National Lamb
Day Barbecue on the Parliament lawns on Wednesday. Now I've
got these two the Farmer Politician panel on the show today,
Grant McCallum and Andrew Hoggard, because you too, I don't
want to be the bearer of bad news, but you're
(09:50):
not high enough up on the food chain to get
on Wednesday show. So you're on today. How's that with it?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Song?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
As I get a lambshop on Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, Grant, but I will catch up with you for
a bear at backbenches tomorrow night. Are you going to
sneak out of the debating session to do that?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Of course I will, Jamie. I'll come and shot your bear,
no problem at all. We've I've got to welcome you
to Wellington where you can come and make sure you
bring some Now when you come to Wellington, be aware
you can't swim.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I won't pack the speedos. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Bring some those plugs as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Now, Andrew Hoggard, of course you're the Minister of Biosecurity.
Does this fall under your umbrella? No?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
No, if anything that fallen under my associate Environment rolls slowly,
but probably not really probably more of a genre. It's
probably more of a local government issue, quite frankly, or
justice issue.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
The thing that frustrates me with this is what this
was a dairy farmer dumping this amount of crap in
the harbor every single day. You know that farm you
PMS called this morning. There should be an investigation. This
was dairy farm. Automatically there'd be an investigation happening. The
farmer would probably be undoubtedly looking at very hot fines
in the tens of thousands and possibly a criminal conviction.
(11:20):
I mean, do will any of the counselors, mayor officials
involved be put in that sort of situation?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Just yeah, I know there's a lot of Every time
I see one of these comments a lot of farmers
are saying, geez, what was what would happen if this
was the farmer? And I think you know it's a
felid question.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well you know it's a question I have. Where's Greenpeace
out there protesting? Where somebody these firms out there, the
illegal firms that take take the regional councils to court
because they're not being tough enough on the farming community.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Where are they?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
They're silent and not to be seen. Come on, Russell Norman,
actually put your money were are out and go and
hang a sign up effect what it is?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
A better idea? Shut some togs on and go for
a swim.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you think the Greens will turn up and support
National Lamb Day. I'm trying to get Steve Able to
come on the show on Wednesday. I've given up on
Chloe and Merrima. But do you think Steve might turn up?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm a bit concerned that you've got You're trying to
get the Greens on and you don't want to Apps Jamie.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, no, no, no, I've got people higher up the
food chain than you two. I'll have I'll have Luxon
and Seymour hopefully Winston Shane will be good for a
few lamb chops, I'd think, wouldn't he? Were you part Grant?
Were you at his party over the weekend? Ims my invite?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I was, I was invited, but no.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I went to the global women's events that Jenny Shipley
and Messi National Trust hosted.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, who wants to go to Shane Jones's knees up?
When you can go to Jenny's Global Woman's whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
It's very important for the local MP of Awthing to
go along and support that event.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Jamie, that is me scolding, Okay, I want to talk
to you two about RAMA reform. I've got Jamie mcfadgen
from Groundswell chewing my ear saying I told you so,
this is not good. And this is after I think
Federated Farmers came out and said they're a bit concerned
about some of your RMA reforms.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think the Kenny thing here.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah, I've pointed out some details where their concent of it,
but I didn't note from their main thing. They said
they agree with the direction that Cabinet signal it wants
to go on, and but here are some details that
could you know, be a problem and that's with any
piece of legislation, there's always going to be details that
need to be sorted out. And I mean my message
(13:46):
would be, hey, we're listening, get the submissions in, point
their details out, point out what you how it would
be better to word it, or how it would be
better delivered to get that intent we're all in agreeance on.
So you know, just because something fist up isn't quite
right doesn't mean that the final product won't be what
(14:08):
we were intending to go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My point to Jamie and him and I, well, he
and I will disagree on this one. I said, ground
swells barking at cars are weeb it on this one
because from the outside looking any in anyhow, I don't
think you could get a much more farmer friendly government
than the one we've got, especially coming from the one
we had. Grant McCallum.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Abs couldn't agree more. At least we've got some farmers
in this government, you know that was compared to the
last lot. But as your Andrew's points beang on, this
is a genuine submission process. Please submit, but yeah, submissions
proses Friday at four point thirty, So get your concerns
in your thoughts and your comments. Now, Jamie mcpagine's got
(14:49):
such a great concern, put a submission in and we
can hear it and hear what he's got to say.
Just like get you one else is welcome.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, just finally, you two your politicians Grant out of
Northland Andrew act a list MP obviously out of the
one or two region. You are both suppliers to Fonterra.
You're both dairy farmers. You've got to vote for the money.
Which way are you going to vote?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Boys? Job done?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Hey, you've both got very good off farm incomes. Now
you don't need the money.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I'm the farm off the parents, so I can make
sure that you know you hear Old or whatever get
their little list correct this year. So I do need
the money.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, So the message here has encouraged Fonterra farmers to
vote one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, it's really important. Just get out there vote.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Farmers need to be active in their own organizations and
your companies supporting the partner votes.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Get on with it.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Really important.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
So I'll just say, if you know, we've got to
be involved. Otherwise politicians think if we're not involved, they'll
make with exigents.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
So it's right.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's a capital repayment two dollars a year, two times
seven fourteen. That's about a pint and back benches tomorrow night, Grant,
So you want to drop in the ocean.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
You want to die a point of listens tomorrow night, Jamie,
is there what you want?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Well? Have they got?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Mackay's are on at the backbench. Okay, thanks lads, thanks
for your time. We will see you even if we
don't talk to you on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Ye cheers, but I don't see you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Lad's always entertaining. Andrew Hoggart and Grant McCallum. Super Bowl
sixty gets underway at twelve thirty Patriots versus Seahawks. We'll
update that one, but up next. And it's a man
who spends a lot of his time in the United States.
He goes over there and drives for six weeks, two
months at a time, believe it or not, Peter Alexander.
(16:58):
It is National Lamb Day on so joining us on
the country now christ Church Farm Accountant and Racontour. Peter Alexander,
and you've thrown out some interesting numbers, Peter around sheep numbers.
We're down to what twenty three to twenty four million
in this country and going down Australia's down to seventy
five million. Is lamb going to become a rarity and
a niche product.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Australian New Zealand. Those numbers are quite correct. I think
what you've called out, Australian New Zealand control about seventy
four percent of the world sheep market. They should become
scarce commodities with a bit of natural economics.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, I've got a farmer on from hawks Bay and
I'll keep the powder dry on this one. On tomorrow's show,
who's going to talk about a fifteen hundred dollars lamb?
My goodness, I'm not quite sure how you get how
you do the sums on that one, but that would
be good for sheep farming. Good to see sheep farming
making a renaissance. Lamb prices are very good, mutton prices
are very good. Even strong walls improving, which is fantastic.
(17:58):
Dairy farming was looking a bit dodgy towards the end
of twenty twenty five nine falls in a row. We've
had three positive auctions since then, so dairying's looking positive
as well. But you're suggesting that dairy farmers need nine
bucks a pi kilogram of milk solids to wash their face.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I think we do about nine dollars. It would work
at eight dollars fifty. But getting a balanced budget, it's
not an answer. Farming in any business needs a profit,
needs a surplus, and that's about nine dollars for a
big number of dairy farmers.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Your biggest expense on farm for most farmers, anyhow, is
interest rates. Now, we were expecting them to keep tracking
down throughout twenty twenty six, but inflation is sticky. It's
over three percent. You're suggesting it might get to four percent.
Let's be honest. We are at the bottom of the
interst rate cycle now. There's only one way it looks
like it's going to go.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yes, I was hoping it might go lower than it is,
but I think you're right. I think where we're dealing
with it at the bottom and waiting for it to
drop any further is bad economics.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You're suggesting the New Zealand government and I don't think
they would argue if you need another fifteen billion dollars
of income, well, they will be helped considerably by the
rural and primary sector this year, because I know that
terminal tax payments and provisional tax payments for that matter,
are heading upwards on this what's that old saying you
can't make money if you don't pay tax.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Oh, that's very true. Yes, I think they're fifteen billion short.
They all tend to forget these worldwide black swan events.
They seem to overlook them. They should be reducing some expenses,
but politicians struggle to increase the fiscal income and they
struggle to reduce expenses. It's not their money. If it
(19:51):
was your and my money, we would be doing it harder.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
When you talk about black swan events, what are you
talking about the GFC COVID.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I am And at the moment, this lower birth rate,
more people living longer, more health costs. That's looking like
at the moment for a lot of developed countries, looking
like a minor black swan event.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes, as a baby boomer, Peter Alexander, you're sucking on
the nipple of the state when it comes to getting
super annuation. Can we afford for rich people like you
to get paid by the government.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You can leave the rich pitout. You're an accountant, Yet
no that doesn't accountants of God gets to society, Jamie,
you forget that. Look the answer to that is, yes,
we can't afford to keep doing it. It's not sustainable.
But I think you need to give people. You need
to do it gradually. I don't think you could make
(20:52):
a major change inside ten years. You need to do
it gradually. Every few months, change the eligibility somewhat, and it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ain't going to happen while Winston's drawing breath. Ultimately, we
probably need to get to a model like Australia scott
where employers and employees make a much larger contribution to
Key we Saver or the National supersystem, Yes, whatever it is,
but we need to give people warning.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yes, the key we Savers turned out to be a
better scheme from Michael Cullen and two oh seven than
we had guessed, and it's going to play a bigger
role in this superannuation. It's playing a good role, but
it needs to be a bigger role.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
You're quite right.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
I mean in some ways the employee needs to be
putting in ten percent and the employer of probably five percent.
We need to be getting it up to that twelve
to fifteen percent bracket.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Finally, how are your farmer clients going in Canterbury. I
know that you've some of the arable farmers have had
a tough time of it, but the pastoral farmers must
be happy.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yes, you've got grass out. When you've got grass out
the kitchen, one logic tends to go out with it.
So you've got lamb prices going well. You've got a
lot of people holding on to stop putting weights on.
But the arable people have had a terrible run.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, February is traditionally our best month. I hope they
get a better run in February. Peter Alexander, always good
to catch up with you on the country. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you, Peter.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Twenty six away from one year with the Country. No
score so far. Super Bowl sixty lex has just started.
Where is it in San Francisco? I think we'll update
that when we do sports news. Rural news up next
as well. Before the end of the hour, Greg Miller
and Jeremy Rocks seven welcome back to the Country. Very
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Speaker 2 (24:12):
Twenty one away from One Good Afternoon. Michelle Watt, celebrity
sports newsreader about two. He's not debuting on the country,
He's been on before. More about him in a moment,
What's in rural News?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
In Rural News, Jamie. Another seat at the FMG Young
Farmer Grand Final has been filled over the weekend nightcats
Darry farmer Thomas Slee took out the Otago Southland regional title.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
Slee Coock.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
The most points were two hundred and seventy one, followed
by Henry Smith from Clinton and second place with two
hundred and fifty eight points and third place went to
Harry McCullum from at Tianu. Tasman is the next regional
final being held this weekend on the fourteenth of February
at the Courtney Amp Showgrounds in Kurwee.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And Tom Slee's father, Richard, was a Young Farmer of
the Year in the what year is it on that
thing there? I reckon about two thousand just nineteen ninety
nine two thousand and I'm claiming glory for that because
I had three young Farmers of the Year in a
row from the Southland region. Have you got it there?
And I lent them all Tony Johnson's Quiz sports book.
(25:11):
They all studied it and they all got through in one.
Let's have a look. Richard Slee, where is he? Where
is he?
Speaker 10 (25:16):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Richard a pair before me? Here he goes nineteen ninety nine,
and then Robert kent Thorn and Simon Hopcroft. I think yes,
and David Holdaway. I might have had four in a row,
all from Southland. Those were glory days. Talking about glory days.
He's the boss.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Sport on the country with AFCO business.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well done, So, Ben Humphrey, you're the head of sport
and rural for n Z and me. Are you fizzed
up about Super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (25:46):
It's the one game of American Football NFL I watch
a year. It's the only one. So my knowledge is
not is not great.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
But it's a big day and Santa Clara Kelliform your
home of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
Bad Bunny is the halftime show. Wish I knew. I
wish you're cool enough to know who that is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But I'm well, he isn't he an Hispanic rapper?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
He is?
Speaker 10 (26:11):
He is.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Trump doesn't like him.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Last time the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks
met at the Super Bowl was in twenty fifteen. The
Patriots got up twenty eight, twenty four, and in the
sixtieth edition. It's just underway, so we'll see. I'm going Patriots.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Ah well, I see the Seattle the Seahawks are the favorites.
There's no score yet. I'm not any score that I
can see. We will update that for you. Okay, Ben,
great to have you down here, and we're going to
visit the good people at is Suzu this afternoon.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
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Speaker 2 (26:47):
I wonderful. Is it sign written? We might need to
add some driving.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Issues as a sign written it's gonna yeah. We might
make you to drive there just to make sure that, yeah,
that you must test.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
More about that later. But thank you to Suzu and
Farmlands for coming on board as naming sponsors of the
Country this year. We really appreciate the association.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
Yeah, absolutely wonderful partners of the show.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, up next, either Jeremy Rooks or Greg Miller. I've
got to decide who do I go. Greg's an er bloke,
but Jeremy's always entertaining one or t'other after the breaks,
don lullan look down then the world. Here is a
(27:34):
great news story to warm your heart on the first
day of a big farming week for New Zealand as
we count down to National Land Day on Sunday. This
is another cause near and dear to my own heart personally.
It's the IHC Calf and Rural Scheme, the national fundraising
managers Greg Miller and Greg because of the number of
donations you've had and because of the really high price
(27:56):
for beef i e. Calves, you are now back to
pre m Bovius, pre COVID levels of money raised for
the IHC carf and Rural Scheme. Do you want to
give the farmers of New Zealand a big pat on
the back.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
It's amazing, isn't it, Jamie. The dairy farmers just really
have supported ITHC through seconds and and we are incredibly
grateful and it's had a huge impact. But this year
we're one point three three million dollars, which is amazing,
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and there are still a few carves that we're catching
up on that we missed you know in the South Island,
we didn't get them to sail and so you know
it's it's going to be even more but amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Absolutely six hundred and forty two dollars was I think
your national average. At the last sale at Belcluther, which
is in South Otago, you averaged seven hundred and forty
three dollars per.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Head, isn't it.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
They were wonderful prices also, I think it just reflects
how amazing the farmers are getting us really good quality carves,
getting those to sail and we get great prices, so
they're incredibly grateful.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I think well, mate, dairyman Craig Hickman and Mid
Canterbury takes pride in having the best calves at the pen.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Well.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
He's always in our top calves section. We have a
special awards we give out to people who are in
the top calves. He gives us two calves that always
end up in those top pens.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's amazing, you know.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
It's and we love the farmers that just go the
extra extras mild and make sure the calves get to
us in great conditions.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So imagine imagine how proud Pine Tree Meads would be
because he kicked us all off about what forty five
years ago. And I think I've got to hand out
some other accolades here. I think PGG Rights and especially
their livestock agents who do all this for the love
of it, that've been with you since day one as well.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
I mean it's a sponsored I would say, we don't
know the exact thing is, but it's definitely the longest
rural sponsorship in New Zealand and probably any kind of sponsorship.
But it's been an amazing partnership. It's more than just
giving us some support to cover cost. They also really
(30:37):
roll up their sleeves and in good fashion late the
farmers around New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
They really.
Speaker 12 (30:45):
Make sure the prices we get are stellar prices for
the rural communities and the work of HC in those communities.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And you do great work in those communities as well.
I mean nearly everyone's connected or effect it in some
way or other, and it's so good to give back.
It's better to give than receive. Look also all flex
mild mate Shane mcmanaway there and it was his baby,
I think, and Jared Briggs has just continued on at
all Flex and then Calvin Johansson who we ran into
(31:16):
it field days and he came up to me and said, look,
I want to give some money to the i C,
CARF and Rural Scheme. Who do I talk to? I
pointed him in your direction and they're on board as well. Fantastic.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
It's the wonderful supporters of our tasking and it's thank
you very much for introducing him, Jamie. It's wonderful and
we're grateful for all tech support and all Flex give
us the ear tags every year, all these kind of
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things just make sure we keep our costs minimum and
the maximum amount of money goes to the people with
intellectual disability. And those were all communities.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One point three to three million and counting for the
IC CARF and Rural Scheme. Greg Miller out of the IHC,
well done this year.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
Fantastic and thanks so much for your support, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's a pleasure turn away from one. Thank you, Greg.
We're going to take a break. Jeremy Rooks to rapid
he's not very able enamored by that again with National
Lamb Day or our national day, why not the miserable
side in Super Bowl sixty Seattle Seahawks three New England
(32:34):
Patriots not a sausage are wrapping the country on Super
Bowl Sunday, Monday, our time, three nil to the Seattle Seahawks.
He's a man with plenty of spare time on his
(32:56):
hands because he is a hobby farmer, a lifestyle Jeremy Rooks,
you'll be parked up for the afternoon watching the Super Bowl,
are you, jez Well?
Speaker 10 (33:05):
It will probably go quicker than the Welsh English Six
Nations game. I got up and watch yesterday morning.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
The referees are just a poor terrible mind you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
England looked pretty good, don't they. And France I mean
it's early days, I know, but see.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
Yeah, yeah, well both and shot you've got a good
half back first five and life gets a whole lot
easier for you, doesn't it, Which is what we're lefting
A good number ten at the moment, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, we've got a very good number nine to be
fair in cam Royguard and your mate Richie Muonga is
coming back.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I wouldn't He's not the answer.
Speaker 10 (33:39):
We need to go young. We got some sick of
these old bug buggers of the team.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You're a bitter, twisted and angry man.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I want to encourage the use of this nation to
aspire to the all Blacks, Jamie. I don't want hares
beans that spend most of the time on Instagram playing
first five and causing trouble behind the scenes and the
all black.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh you horrible, horrible man. Hey you got enamored with
National Lamb Day. You're so miserable or our National Day?
What's wrong with National Lamb Day? I think be for
LAMB New Zealand and agg Proud and Rabobank and FMG
are doing a great job.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
There's nothing I'm not anti National Land Day. It just
ends up being a junket for politicians eating LAMB wrecks
and say we love it agriculture, no great meat, more
of our beautiful meat where it should be something that's
actually the whole country A is aware of and B
celebrates together and that would be a great way to
replace the shambles which is our National Day or Whey Day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Look, I look at Australia Day and they do a
great job. And they have their issues over there as well.
I get that, but they do a great job of
encouraging the nation to eat lamb. They do all sorts
of promotions and specials to get your joe average punter
to try lamb on Australia Day. And the trouble with
our National Day White Tonguey Day. I would soon have
(34:59):
it Anzac Day. I think that's the one day of
the year when we're all rowing in the same direction.
But it's too divided.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
I agree, But we're getting back to National Land, I mean,
of course, but it's not promoted to the punters. If
you walk down George Street today and ask and ask
the shoppers how many of them know which day National
Land is, they won't have a clue. But all the
heads and beef and lamb that'll all be closing up
for the politicians over a lamb wreck. They'll all know.
So we need they need to do a better job
(35:26):
of promoting lamb with them, you know, and making sure
the supermarkets have Lamb Day specials and everything else. And yeah, Welebrady,
what's great.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
About I would agree with you. There would be great
to see the supermarkets markets special lamb or a Lamb
leg or something like that. I know it's probably not
that easy with the price of lamb at the moment.
But anyhow, let's move on from that. We talked to
Peter Alexander a bit earlier in the hour about the
season you're having in Canterbury where you're based. If you're
a pastoral farmer, it's got to be happy days.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
I've been playing golf on Wednesdays for the last couple
of weeks and it makes my heart sing, Jamie, to
see God's province looking so beautiful. There's just nothing better.
And everyone's in a great mood at the moment. Because
we were in the in the stook before Christmas, but
it's rained and at the moment things just couldn't be better. Obviously,
the arable farmers are having a rough harvest, but everyone
has a turn, as they've always said, so at the
(36:18):
moment there's nothing but happy days. The store price has
gone nuts, the lamb jobs hanging up there nicely for you. Oh,
it's just great. And I'm having the moment of lawn
twice a week.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And well, you've got nothing else to do.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Well, I'm working on the golf game, so which is
going to take a lot of work, a lot of time.
And honestly, the garden, the garden's gone mad. Jamie, I've
been dead heading all morning and I've got water do
it this afternoon, so you don't for a minute thing.
I'm not busy, No, I.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Won't for a moment. There there we go. Jeremy Rook's
Our Lifestyle, Our hobby Farmer outs of Canterbury, wrapping the
Country for today. Lot's going on this week National Lambday
Barbecue Wellington on Wednesday, Southern Field Days. Why mom, We'll
get underway on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We'll be down there
(37:07):
on Friday. Got Super Rugby opener here in Dunedin against
the Crusaders, the Evil Crusaders go the Highlanders on Friday night.
So much to look forward to this week. We'll catch
you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Gooday, Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm
Jamie mckaye, but a bon John John bon Jovi or
bon Jovi and going down on a blazer glory for
downhill skier Lindsay Vaughn Our first guest. I think he
wants to go out on a blazer glory. His name
is Roland Smith. Yes, he made the New Zealand team
over the weekend. We're going to chat to Roland Smith
(00:59):
about not only the Golden Shares but the World Championships
coming up in early March in Masterton. Today's Farmer Politician
Panel Andrew Hoggard and Grant McCullum, Peter Alexander Farmer coountant
Jeremy Rooks, Canterbury based lifestyle block Hobby Farmer with his
controversial thoughts and some great news about the IHC calf
(01:23):
and Rural Scheme. And of course we've got the Super
Bowl getting underway at twelve thirty New England Patriots up
against the Seattle Seahawks. We will update that one for
you as well. But Roland Smith, congratulations on making the
New Zealand side for the World Sharing Champs. No doubt
you'll be keen to repeat that twenty fourteen victory.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Good afternoon, good aarsenon Jamie It cheers mate. It was
the brutal old battle at Martin on the weekend, so
you're pretty leeved to actually make the team.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah good.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So six of you had to share off for one
spot and it was similar I think with the wall
handling where Marika Braddock of Eketahuna got to join Joel Hennah.
Of course you joined Tower Henderson and the New Zealand team.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, that's right. It was both.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Both selection finals were held at Martin in the afternoon
on Saturday and what an awesome job they did. The
line of sheet they had for us was was awesome.
They so it's exactly how the world final will be.
It was ten four wall, ten second share what we
had to do in the final and it was Yeah,
they were they were strong, physical sheep and I think
everybody came off they're pretty better than bruised and you know,
(02:35):
everything was left out on the board, which is good
to see.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You didn't get home by that much.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
No, No, it was half a point back to Hemi Braddock.
So yeah, very very close the whole, Like say, everybody,
you know, there's nothing left in anyone that it meant
a lot to all of them. And the hardest, well
one of one of the hardest things in our country
is making our team two shares can represent at the world,
so you know, top open shares fighting for that black thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You know, it's pretty awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You mentioned Hemi Braddock. Any relation per chance to Marika.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Pretty sure their brother and sister and it was her
sister last time in Scotland that was representing New Zealand.
So yeah, what a power house family in the sharing industry.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You are going to be pairing up with Toyer Henderson,
who has been over the past couple of seasons anyhow,
the form sharer in New Zealand sharing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Northland boys, so you know, obviously I'm
from the Far North as well, about twenty minutes away
from where Tour is and sort of grew up sharing together,
worked for his dad and so when I was a
young guy, and yeah, what a powerhouse Share of Tour
is such a awesome to watch. He's explosive and exciting.
So now I'm super lucky to have him as my teammate.
(03:51):
I'm really looking forward to that team's event and try
and bring it home.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, well, you'd have to start as reasonably hot favorite,
so I think in New Zealand conditions to win the
team title. But you are also after the individual title.
You'll not only have to head off your teammate, you're
going to have to head off your brother who's sharing
for England.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No, Matt's over here at the moment.
He's actually staying at home, so might be able to
throw a few sneaky punches in there and the rebsit beforehand.
But no, it's pretty awesome to be a part of
family like that. And you know, it's great to see
him part of the team, and you know he's proud,
he's proud to live where he is now. His family's
(04:30):
all brought up over there, and he's super excited to
be here. And he's definitely a big threat. He is
very good for wall sharer and he's a very powerful sharer,
so there's no mistaking that he's certainly here to try
and win.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So what does the next month hold for you, because
it's just over what just under four weeks till Golden
Shares and World Champs weekend at Masterton and the Memorial
Hall there. The roof will be quite literally lifted off.
But I know, let's be honest, roll and you'd soon
puddling around on your digger or driving attractive and sharing
these days, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it was a hard decision to actually make to
compete in the final. It was if you know, if
I it was lucky enough to make the team, it's
certainly going to make the next four weeks extremely hard.
We're busy time of the year for us, lots of
lambs coming on soon, We've got some lands on still
and all the new grass is going in at the
moment starting this week. So we're certainly tapped out, if
(05:28):
you want to call it that. And I don't share
anymore at all, so I'm definitely going to have to
try and share some sheep. And yeah, keep training and
be as fit as I can be. It's certainly not
as easy as when I was a full time share
it so the second nature and you naturally fit, but
definitely definitely not calling myself fit or a natural share anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I'm assuming and I know that Dave, Sir David Fagan,
towards the end of his career, didn't do many I
hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, didn't do
many full days in the shed. You've got to train
yourself for twenty sheep, not eight hundred.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, exactly, it is.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It didn't but like that, you can shoot out to
the shed and do an hour's work and it all
sort of comes rushing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Back to here.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I've been out of the sheds that long now,
it's it's sort of a not second nature anymore. So
if I can, I will get a few days of
sharing him to try and you know, make it nice
and snappy again. It's like anything, you know, the more
prepared we can be, the less there's no room for
mistakes at the end. So now I'm definitely taking it
(06:33):
pretty seriously and pretty pretty proud to be putting that
flex thing let on for potentially the last time.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So yeah, well it's we talked about Lindsay Vaughn going
down on a Blazer glory. This is your chance, quite literally,
I think it's the last chance to learn for you
to go out on a blazer glory.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, certainly, certainly not looking at doing too
much or more of it, so you know it is
it is a huge honor to put that sing that
on and to you know, to be able to finally
have a crack and zeeland at a world.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know we're titled how good is that?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know they're our sheep and you know we brought
out sharing them, which is going to be Yeah, it's
going to be pretty pretty exciting and I'm really looking
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And how good's farming and hawks by at the moment
Roland Smith. After that rain you've had recently.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, certainly looking gooder than it's look it said as
early days. Yet Februy can be an interesting month and
so can March. But yeah, I know the drill drills
come out of the shed this week, so we'll some
are fellow How good is that you are getting all
that rain on? How some are fellow ground so we
can start killing now, which is which is pretty awesome.
Certainly been given a bit of a hand at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, Roland Smith, We're very proud of you, along with
Toyer Henderson, the Sharers representing us in the world Championships
and Joel Hennahra and Marika Braddock as well in the
war handling. It's going to be fantastic, can't wait.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Looking forward to it, mate, and
we'll keep in touch.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Good on you. There we go.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Roland Smith added to the New Zealand Sharing team for
the World Sharing Championships in Marsterton in early March. Up
next on the Country. Well, these two are farmers. They're
not probably quite as energetic as Roland, I wouldn't think,
as they're politicians now as well. So it is Grant McCallum,
(08:24):
Andrew Hoggard, Peter Alexander Farmer coountant on the show today,
Jeremy Rooks and if I can track him down, Greg
Miller from the ic Calf and Rural Scheme. Thanks to
you farmers, we're back past pre m Bovis and pre
COVID numbers when it comes to raising money for the
IHC Calf and Rural Scheme, where we've got a special
(08:46):
celebrity sports newsreader coming in here. At least I think
he's coming in here. Remember that Super Bowl Final it's
number lex what's that is that? That's sixty? You think
isn't it. Yeah, gets underway at twelve. Will keep you
updated on that one. New England Patriots, Tom Brady's old
team up against the Seattle Seahawks, who will start as
(09:08):
the favorites. It is National Lamb Day on Sunday, February
the fifteenth, but before then we've got the Waimumu Field Days,
(09:29):
the Southern Field Days that gore lots of activity there
on Friday, and before that we've got the National Lamb
Day Barbecue on the Parliament lawns on Wednesday. Now I've
got these two the Farmer Politician panel on the show today,
Grant McCallum and Andrew Hoggard, because you too, I don't
want to be the bearer of bad news, but you're
(09:50):
not high enough up on the food chain to get
on Wednesday show. So you're on today. How's that with it?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Song?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
As I get a lambshop on Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, Grant, but I will catch up with you for
a bear at backbenches tomorrow night. Are you going to
sneak out of the debating session to do that?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Of course I will, Jamie. I'll come and shot your bear,
no problem at all. We've I've got to welcome you
to Wellington where you can come and make sure you
bring some Now when you come to Wellington, be aware
you can't swim.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I won't pack the speedos. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Bring some those plugs as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Now, Andrew Hoggard, of course you're the Minister of Biosecurity.
Does this fall under your umbrella? No?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
No, if anything that fallen under my associate Environment rolls slowly,
but probably not really probably more of a genre. It's
probably more of a local government issue, quite frankly, or
justice issue.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
The thing that frustrates me with this is what this
was a dairy farmer dumping this amount of crap in
the harbor every single day. You know that farm you
PMS called this morning. There should be an investigation. This
was dairy farm. Automatically there'd be an investigation happening. The
farmer would probably be undoubtedly looking at very hot fines
in the tens of thousands and possibly a criminal conviction.
(11:20):
I mean, do will any of the counselors, mayor officials
involved be put in that sort of situation?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Just yeah, I know there's a lot of Every time
I see one of these comments a lot of farmers
are saying, geez, what was what would happen if this
was the farmer? And I think you know it's a
felid question.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well you know it's a question I have. Where's Greenpeace
out there protesting? Where somebody these firms out there, the
illegal firms that take take the regional councils to court
because they're not being tough enough on the farming community.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Where are they?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
They're silent and not to be seen. Come on, Russell Norman,
actually put your money were are out and go and
hang a sign up effect what it is?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
A better idea? Shut some togs on and go for
a swim.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you think the Greens will turn up and support
National Lamb Day. I'm trying to get Steve Able to
come on the show on Wednesday. I've given up on
Chloe and Merrima. But do you think Steve might turn up?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm a bit concerned that you've got You're trying to
get the Greens on and you don't want to Apps Jamie.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, no, no, no, I've got people higher up the
food chain than you two. I'll have I'll have Luxon
and Seymour hopefully Winston Shane will be good for a
few lamb chops, I'd think, wouldn't he? Were you part Grant?
Were you at his party over the weekend? Ims my invite?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I was, I was invited, but no.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I went to the global women's events that Jenny Shipley
and Messi National Trust hosted.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, who wants to go to Shane Jones's knees up?
When you can go to Jenny's Global Woman's whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
It's very important for the local MP of Awthing to
go along and support that event.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Jamie, that is me scolding, Okay, I want to talk
to you two about RAMA reform. I've got Jamie mcfadgen
from Groundswell chewing my ear saying I told you so,
this is not good. And this is after I think
Federated Farmers came out and said they're a bit concerned
about some of your RMA reforms.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think the Kenny thing here.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah, I've pointed out some details where their concent of it,
but I didn't note from their main thing. They said
they agree with the direction that Cabinet signal it wants
to go on, and but here are some details that
could you know, be a problem and that's with any
piece of legislation, there's always going to be details that
need to be sorted out. And I mean my message
(13:46):
would be, hey, we're listening, get the submissions in, point
their details out, point out what you how it would
be better to word it, or how it would be
better delivered to get that intent we're all in agreeance on.
So you know, just because something fist up isn't quite
right doesn't mean that the final product won't be what
(14:08):
we were intending to go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My point to Jamie and him and I, well, he
and I will disagree on this one. I said, ground
swells barking at cars are weeb it on this one
because from the outside looking any in anyhow, I don't
think you could get a much more farmer friendly government
than the one we've got, especially coming from the one
we had. Grant McCallum.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Abs couldn't agree more. At least we've got some farmers
in this government, you know that was compared to the
last lot. But as your Andrew's points beang on, this
is a genuine submission process. Please submit, but yeah, submissions
proses Friday at four point thirty, So get your concerns
in your thoughts and your comments. Now, Jamie mcpagine's got
(14:49):
such a great concern, put a submission in and we
can hear it and hear what he's got to say.
Just like get you one else is welcome.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, just finally, you two your politicians Grant out of
Northland Andrew act a list MP obviously out of the
one or two region. You are both suppliers to Fonterra.
You're both dairy farmers. You've got to vote for the money.
Which way are you going to vote?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Boys? Job done?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Hey, you've both got very good off farm incomes. Now
you don't need the money.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I'm the farm off the parents, so I can make
sure that you know you hear Old or whatever get
their little list correct this year. So I do need
the money.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, So the message here has encouraged Fonterra farmers to
vote one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, it's really important. Just get out there vote.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Farmers need to be active in their own organizations and
your companies supporting the partner votes.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Get on with it.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Really important.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
So I'll just say, if you know, we've got to
be involved. Otherwise politicians think if we're not involved, they'll
make with exigents.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
So it's right.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's a capital repayment two dollars a year, two times
seven fourteen. That's about a pint and back benches tomorrow night, Grant,
So you want to drop in the ocean.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
You want to die a point of listens tomorrow night, Jamie,
is there what you want?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Well? Have they got?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Mackay's are on at the backbench. Okay, thanks lads, thanks
for your time. We will see you even if we
don't talk to you on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Ye cheers, but I don't see you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Lad's always entertaining. Andrew Hoggart and Grant McCallum. Super Bowl
sixty gets underway at twelve thirty Patriots versus Seahawks. We'll
update that one, but up next. And it's a man
who spends a lot of his time in the United States.
He goes over there and drives for six weeks, two
months at a time, believe it or not, Peter Alexander.
(16:58):
It is National Lamb Day on so joining us on
the country now christ Church Farm Accountant and Racontour. Peter Alexander,
and you've thrown out some interesting numbers, Peter around sheep numbers.
We're down to what twenty three to twenty four million
in this country and going down Australia's down to seventy
five million. Is lamb going to become a rarity and
a niche product.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Australian New Zealand. Those numbers are quite correct. I think
what you've called out, Australian New Zealand control about seventy
four percent of the world sheep market. They should become
scarce commodities with a bit of natural economics.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, I've got a farmer on from hawks Bay and
I'll keep the powder dry on this one. On tomorrow's show,
who's going to talk about a fifteen hundred dollars lamb?
My goodness, I'm not quite sure how you get how
you do the sums on that one, but that would
be good for sheep farming. Good to see sheep farming
making a renaissance. Lamb prices are very good, mutton prices
are very good. Even strong walls improving, which is fantastic.
(17:58):
Dairy farming was looking a bit dodgy towards the end
of twenty twenty five nine falls in a row. We've
had three positive auctions since then, so dairying's looking positive
as well. But you're suggesting that dairy farmers need nine
bucks a pi kilogram of milk solids to wash their face.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I think we do about nine dollars. It would work
at eight dollars fifty. But getting a balanced budget, it's
not an answer. Farming in any business needs a profit,
needs a surplus, and that's about nine dollars for a
big number of dairy farmers.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Your biggest expense on farm for most farmers, anyhow, is
interest rates. Now, we were expecting them to keep tracking
down throughout twenty twenty six, but inflation is sticky. It's
over three percent. You're suggesting it might get to four percent.
Let's be honest. We are at the bottom of the
interst rate cycle now. There's only one way it looks
like it's going to go.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yes, I was hoping it might go lower than it is,
but I think you're right. I think where we're dealing
with it at the bottom and waiting for it to
drop any further is bad economics.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You're suggesting the New Zealand government and I don't think
they would argue if you need another fifteen billion dollars
of income, well, they will be helped considerably by the
rural and primary sector this year, because I know that
terminal tax payments and provisional tax payments for that matter,
are heading upwards on this what's that old saying you
can't make money if you don't pay tax.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Oh, that's very true. Yes, I think they're fifteen billion short.
They all tend to forget these worldwide black swan events.
They seem to overlook them. They should be reducing some expenses,
but politicians struggle to increase the fiscal income and they
struggle to reduce expenses. It's not their money. If it
(19:51):
was your and my money, we would be doing it harder.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
When you talk about black swan events, what are you
talking about the GFC COVID.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I am And at the moment, this lower birth rate,
more people living longer, more health costs. That's looking like
at the moment for a lot of developed countries, looking
like a minor black swan event.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes, as a baby boomer, Peter Alexander, you're sucking on
the nipple of the state when it comes to getting
super annuation. Can we afford for rich people like you
to get paid by the government.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You can leave the rich pitout. You're an accountant, Yet
no that doesn't accountants of God gets to society, Jamie,
you forget that. Look the answer to that is, yes,
we can't afford to keep doing it. It's not sustainable.
But I think you need to give people. You need
to do it gradually. I don't think you could make
(20:52):
a major change inside ten years. You need to do
it gradually. Every few months, change the eligibility somewhat, and it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ain't going to happen while Winston's drawing breath. Ultimately, we
probably need to get to a model like Australia scott
where employers and employees make a much larger contribution to
Key we Saver or the National supersystem, Yes, whatever it is,
but we need to give people warning.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yes, the key we Savers turned out to be a
better scheme from Michael Cullen and two oh seven than
we had guessed, and it's going to play a bigger
role in this superannuation. It's playing a good role, but
it needs to be a bigger role.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
You're quite right.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
I mean in some ways the employee needs to be
putting in ten percent and the employer of probably five percent.
We need to be getting it up to that twelve
to fifteen percent bracket.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Finally, how are your farmer clients going in Canterbury. I
know that you've some of the arable farmers have had
a tough time of it, but the pastoral farmers must
be happy.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yes, you've got grass out. When you've got grass out
the kitchen, one logic tends to go out with it.
So you've got lamb prices going well. You've got a
lot of people holding on to stop putting weights on.
But the arable people have had a terrible run.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, February is traditionally our best month. I hope they
get a better run in February. Peter Alexander, always good
to catch up with you on the country. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you, Peter.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Twenty six away from one year with the Country. No
score so far. Super Bowl sixty lex has just started.
Where is it in San Francisco? I think we'll update
that when we do sports news. Rural news up next
as well. Before the end of the hour, Greg Miller
and Jeremy Rocks seven welcome back to the Country. Very
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To day.
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Speaker 2 (24:12):
Twenty one away from One Good Afternoon. Michelle Watt, celebrity
sports newsreader about two. He's not debuting on the country,
He's been on before. More about him in a moment,
What's in rural News?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
In Rural News, Jamie. Another seat at the FMG Young
Farmer Grand Final has been filled over the weekend nightcats
Darry farmer Thomas Slee took out the Otago Southland regional title.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
Slee Coock.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
The most points were two hundred and seventy one, followed
by Henry Smith from Clinton and second place with two
hundred and fifty eight points and third place went to
Harry McCullum from at Tianu. Tasman is the next regional
final being held this weekend on the fourteenth of February
at the Courtney Amp Showgrounds in Kurwee.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And Tom Slee's father, Richard, was a Young Farmer of
the Year in the what year is it on that
thing there? I reckon about two thousand just nineteen ninety
nine two thousand and I'm claiming glory for that because
I had three young Farmers of the Year in a
row from the Southland region. Have you got it there?
And I lent them all Tony Johnson's Quiz sports book.
(25:11):
They all studied it and they all got through in one.
Let's have a look. Richard Slee, where is he? Where
is he?
Speaker 10 (25:16):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Richard a pair before me? Here he goes nineteen ninety nine,
and then Robert kent Thorn and Simon Hopcroft. I think yes,
and David Holdaway. I might have had four in a row,
all from Southland. Those were glory days. Talking about glory days.
He's the boss.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Sport on the country with AFCO business.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well done, So, Ben Humphrey, you're the head of sport
and rural for n Z and me. Are you fizzed
up about Super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (25:46):
It's the one game of American Football NFL I watch
a year. It's the only one. So my knowledge is
not is not great.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
But it's a big day and Santa Clara Kelliform your
home of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
Bad Bunny is the halftime show. Wish I knew. I
wish you're cool enough to know who that is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But I'm well, he isn't he an Hispanic rapper?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
He is?
Speaker 10 (26:11):
He is.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Trump doesn't like him.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Last time the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks
met at the Super Bowl was in twenty fifteen. The
Patriots got up twenty eight, twenty four, and in the
sixtieth edition. It's just underway, so we'll see. I'm going Patriots.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Ah well, I see the Seattle the Seahawks are the favorites.
There's no score yet. I'm not any score that I
can see. We will update that for you. Okay, Ben,
great to have you down here, and we're going to
visit the good people at is Suzu this afternoon.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Yes, I got a beautiful new new vehicle for you, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I wonderful. Is it sign written? We might need to
add some driving.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Issues as a sign written it's gonna yeah. We might
make you to drive there just to make sure that, yeah,
that you must test.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
More about that later. But thank you to Suzu and
Farmlands for coming on board as naming sponsors of the
Country this year. We really appreciate the association.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
Yeah, absolutely wonderful partners of the show.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, up next, either Jeremy Rooks or Greg Miller. I've
got to decide who do I go. Greg's an er bloke,
but Jeremy's always entertaining one or t'other after the breaks,
don lullan look down then the world. Here is a
(27:34):
great news story to warm your heart on the first
day of a big farming week for New Zealand as
we count down to National Land Day on Sunday. This
is another cause near and dear to my own heart personally.
It's the IHC Calf and Rural Scheme, the national fundraising
managers Greg Miller and Greg because of the number of
donations you've had and because of the really high price
(27:56):
for beef i e. Calves, you are now back to
pre m Bovius, pre COVID levels of money raised for
the IHC carf and Rural Scheme. Do you want to
give the farmers of New Zealand a big pat on
the back.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
It's amazing, isn't it, Jamie. The dairy farmers just really
have supported ITHC through seconds and and we are incredibly
grateful and it's had a huge impact. But this year
we're one point three three million dollars, which is amazing,
(28:31):
and there are still a few carves that we're catching
up on that we missed you know in the South Island,
we didn't get them to sail and so you know
it's it's going to be even more but amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Absolutely six hundred and forty two dollars was I think
your national average. At the last sale at Belcluther, which
is in South Otago, you averaged seven hundred and forty
three dollars per.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Head, isn't it.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
They were wonderful prices also, I think it just reflects
how amazing the farmers are getting us really good quality carves,
getting those to sail and we get great prices, so
they're incredibly grateful.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I think well, mate, dairyman Craig Hickman and Mid
Canterbury takes pride in having the best calves at the pen.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Well.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
He's always in our top calves section. We have a
special awards we give out to people who are in
the top calves. He gives us two calves that always
end up in those top pens.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's amazing, you know.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
It's and we love the farmers that just go the
extra extras mild and make sure the calves get to
us in great conditions.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So imagine imagine how proud Pine Tree Meads would be
because he kicked us all off about what forty five
years ago. And I think I've got to hand out
some other accolades here. I think PGG Rights and especially
their livestock agents who do all this for the love
of it, that've been with you since day one as well.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
I mean it's a sponsored I would say, we don't
know the exact thing is, but it's definitely the longest
rural sponsorship in New Zealand and probably any kind of sponsorship.
But it's been an amazing partnership. It's more than just
giving us some support to cover cost. They also really
(30:37):
roll up their sleeves and in good fashion late the
farmers around New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
They really.
Speaker 12 (30:45):
Make sure the prices we get are stellar prices for
the rural communities and the work of HC in those communities.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And you do great work in those communities as well.
I mean nearly everyone's connected or effect it in some
way or other, and it's so good to give back.
It's better to give than receive. Look also all flex
mild mate Shane mcmanaway there and it was his baby,
I think, and Jared Briggs has just continued on at
all Flex and then Calvin Johansson who we ran into
(31:16):
it field days and he came up to me and said, look,
I want to give some money to the i C,
CARF and Rural Scheme. Who do I talk to? I
pointed him in your direction and they're on board as well. Fantastic.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
It's the wonderful supporters of our tasking and it's thank
you very much for introducing him, Jamie. It's wonderful and
we're grateful for all tech support and all Flex give
us the ear tags every year, all these kind of
(31:50):
things just make sure we keep our costs minimum and
the maximum amount of money goes to the people with
intellectual disability. And those were all communities.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One point three to three million and counting for the
IC CARF and Rural Scheme. Greg Miller out of the IHC,
well done this year.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
Fantastic and thanks so much for your support, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's a pleasure turn away from one. Thank you, Greg.
We're going to take a break. Jeremy Rooks to rapid
he's not very able enamored by that again with National
Lamb Day or our national day, why not the miserable
side in Super Bowl sixty Seattle Seahawks three New England
(32:34):
Patriots not a sausage are wrapping the country on Super
Bowl Sunday, Monday, our time, three nil to the Seattle Seahawks.
He's a man with plenty of spare time on his
(32:56):
hands because he is a hobby farmer, a lifestyle Jeremy Rooks,
you'll be parked up for the afternoon watching the Super Bowl,
are you, jez Well?
Speaker 10 (33:05):
It will probably go quicker than the Welsh English Six
Nations game. I got up and watch yesterday morning.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
The referees are just a poor terrible mind you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
England looked pretty good, don't they. And France I mean
it's early days, I know, but see.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
Yeah, yeah, well both and shot you've got a good
half back first five and life gets a whole lot
easier for you, doesn't it, Which is what we're lefting
A good number ten at the moment, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, we've got a very good number nine to be
fair in cam Royguard and your mate Richie Muonga is
coming back.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I wouldn't He's not the answer.
Speaker 10 (33:39):
We need to go young. We got some sick of
these old bug buggers of the team.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You're a bitter, twisted and angry man.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I want to encourage the use of this nation to
aspire to the all Blacks, Jamie. I don't want hares
beans that spend most of the time on Instagram playing
first five and causing trouble behind the scenes and the
all black.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh you horrible, horrible man. Hey you got enamored with
National Lamb Day. You're so miserable or our National Day?
What's wrong with National Lamb Day? I think be for
LAMB New Zealand and agg Proud and Rabobank and FMG
are doing a great job.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
There's nothing I'm not anti National Land Day. It just
ends up being a junket for politicians eating LAMB wrecks
and say we love it agriculture, no great meat, more
of our beautiful meat where it should be something that's
actually the whole country A is aware of and B
celebrates together and that would be a great way to
replace the shambles which is our National Day or Whey Day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Look, I look at Australia Day and they do a
great job. And they have their issues over there as well.
I get that, but they do a great job of
encouraging the nation to eat lamb. They do all sorts
of promotions and specials to get your joe average punter
to try lamb on Australia Day. And the trouble with
our National Day White Tonguey Day. I would soon have
(34:59):
it Anzac Day. I think that's the one day of
the year when we're all rowing in the same direction.
But it's too divided.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
I agree, But we're getting back to National Land, I mean,
of course, but it's not promoted to the punters. If
you walk down George Street today and ask and ask
the shoppers how many of them know which day National
Land is, they won't have a clue. But all the
heads and beef and lamb that'll all be closing up
for the politicians over a lamb wreck. They'll all know.
So we need they need to do a better job
(35:26):
of promoting lamb with them, you know, and making sure
the supermarkets have Lamb Day specials and everything else. And yeah, Welebrady,
what's great.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
About I would agree with you. There would be great
to see the supermarkets markets special lamb or a Lamb
leg or something like that. I know it's probably not
that easy with the price of lamb at the moment.
But anyhow, let's move on from that. We talked to
Peter Alexander a bit earlier in the hour about the
season you're having in Canterbury where you're based. If you're
a pastoral farmer, it's got to be happy days.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
I've been playing golf on Wednesdays for the last couple
of weeks and it makes my heart sing, Jamie, to
see God's province looking so beautiful. There's just nothing better.
And everyone's in a great mood at the moment. Because
we were in the in the stook before Christmas, but
it's rained and at the moment things just couldn't be better. Obviously,
the arable farmers are having a rough harvest, but everyone
has a turn, as they've always said, so at the
(36:18):
moment there's nothing but happy days. The store price has
gone nuts, the lamb jobs hanging up there nicely for you. Oh,
it's just great. And I'm having the moment of lawn
twice a week.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And well, you've got nothing else to do.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Well, I'm working on the golf game, so which is
going to take a lot of work, a lot of time.
And honestly, the garden, the garden's gone mad. Jamie, I've
been dead heading all morning and I've got water do
it this afternoon, so you don't for a minute thing.
I'm not busy, No, I.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Won't for a moment. There there we go. Jeremy Rook's
Our Lifestyle, Our hobby Farmer outs of Canterbury, wrapping the
Country for today. Lot's going on this week National Lambday
Barbecue Wellington on Wednesday, Southern Field Days. Why mom, We'll
get underway on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We'll be down there
(37:07):
on Friday. Got Super Rugby opener here in Dunedin against
the Crusaders, the Evil Crusaders go the Highlanders on Friday night.
So much to look forward to this week. We'll catch
you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
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