June 14, 2026 • 40 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, David Reesby, Wendy Paul, Dr Jacqueline Rowarth, and Phil Duncan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Baby, all your queens come true.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
The we mine have with you this special day. I
know you say I'm with you every I will your
mealing five. Now you have a real.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Good time and good afternoon or good afternoon, New Zealand.
I'm Jamie McKay, still recovering from field days. This is
the Country brought to you by I Suzu and Farmlands.
Thank you Farmlands for hosting us magnificently for three days.
Your happy birthday baby to pot forty seven and forty
(01:02):
five for that man. For that matter, Donald Trumpet's maybe
a good birthday for the Trumpster. We may have a
peace deal in the Middle East. More about that as
the show progresses. Word has it that there will be
a peace steal signed in Switzerland or Geneva, Switzerland on Friday.
(01:24):
Don't hold your breath, but anyhow, it's really really positive news.
We're going to kick off the show today with today's
panel Andrew Hoggard and Grant McCallum. Fess up here. I
had to catch up with them a wee bit earlier
this morning, simply because Grant was in a select committee
and had to be in for a vote at midday.
David Riesby is the first of seven Young Farmer of
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the Year Grand finalists we're profiling over the next seven
shows here on the Country. He's representing the home region
I was going to say province, but home region of
Taranaki man or two. So we'll catch up with David
see how his preparations are going for that big Young
Farmer Grand Final in New Plymouth. Were based out on
New Plymouth July two to four. Wendy Paul missed out
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on chatting to her on Wednesday on Friday, should I
say at Field Days because Winston sort of went a
wee bit longer than anticipated, but there was a lot
of people keen to hear what he had to say.
So Wendy's been kind enough to revisit us today. She
is the chief executive of Growing Future Farmers. Doctor jaquilln
rowis all about innovation and AI AI was a big
(02:34):
theme at the Field Days. We're going to talk to
her and Phil Duncan on the Super al Nino. Plus
we're going to tell you who won all the site awards.
I'm assuming Michelle will have this in a rural news,
but I can tell you the place that does the
best lunch at field Days if you're lucky enough to
build to weasel your way in there. Half Co, New
Zealand claimed the best outdoor site Larves three thousand, three
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thousand and three one hundred square meters and over. They
did a great job, So well done to all the
team at AFCO. Right now, we're going to kick it
off with Today's Farmer Politician Panel. Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCullum next,
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Today's Farmer Politician Panel join us on the country. They
were meant to chat to me at field Days, but
I had bigger fish to fry. Let's face it, Lux
and Chippy change in Swinston, Peters almost Andrew Hoggart, you
made the cut because you were a man in demand
at field Days, not because of the excellent work you're
doing as Minister of Biosecurity, but because of your reckless
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behavior on the end of a chainsaw. Well, it's not
a good afternoon, it's good morning as we record this, Andrew, Yeah,
good Jamie Yellow.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There was plenty of farmers coming up to me asking
what this other technique was that everyone said we should
be using this. Most of them, as I spoke to,
only thought there was one technique and I hit it mastered.
I'm sure someone wanted me to put a few road
cones out and crash. I'll keep doing it how.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I do it well.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Grant McCallum, National MP for Northland, you slightly woke. You
would do it. You would play by the rule book.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Wouldn't you play.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
By the rules Jamie? You know what I'm like? Yes, yes,
always keep them right. That's the nature of it. Although, yeah,
you do have the wonder of some people. See they
have a lot of time to focus on a whole
unimportant things. I did feel a weak, it sighed to Andrew,
but you know that's the way I go.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, Grant. An election year for a politician, any publicity's
good publicity. What did Oscar Wild say? There's only one
thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being
talked about at all. Hey, look, as we record this,
it's like I got to fess up. This is a
pre record because Grant, you were unavailable because you were
hobnobbing in a select committee. So I had to pre
record it as we As we record this interview at
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about quarter to eleven, it looks like Trump has got
a deal in the Middle East. He might have blown
something up by midday.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Who knows.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
He is hoping. I'll believe it when ships starts sailing
through the straits of Women's then we know we've got
a deal. Until then, it's all speculation. But he is
hoping because honestly, we all need the price of fuel
and come down. There's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, let's talk about Field Days. They came out with
the numbers on Saturday afternoon, so record attendants on Wednesday.
I knew that. I thought Thursday might have given it
a nudge, but all up, I wasn't there on Saturday.
But it was a great attendance, great weather. Although I
must admit, Andrew Haggard and I'll stay with you, I
don't think I've ever been as cold at Field Days
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as I was on Thursday morning. That was the Southland
frost and the White caddo.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, she was a bit chilly, but you know, may
it was a glorious day or all of the days
actually were of you know, who would have thought middle
of June and everyone's wearing sunglasses. It was a stone day,
and yeah, the attendance was pretty impressive, and you know,
the vibe of the place was pretty good as well.
I remember a few years back and it was like
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walking through a funeral procession, whereas you know, people were engaged,
they were excited, and yeah, found a really good buzz
to the event.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
We're going to be talking to Wendy Paul slightly from
Growing Future Farmers and Grant McCallum. I'd have to say,
and this is just anecdotal observation, there was a hell
of a lot of what looked like young farmers, men
and women there, often with their young families. You know,
they looked like farmers, they dressed like farmers. I'm making
the assumption they were farmers. But there was a lot
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of young people there.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
I know they It's great to see because that's the
future our sector, right. I want to talk about a
bloke who's quite the other end of the scale, who
spent his time running around trying to win VOTs, and
fellow Lord Winston Peters, who I just feel he talked about,
I mean the gall of the bloke he says he
wants people to vote from an insurance policy. What an
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insurance policy for when he goes with Labor. I mean,
this is the sort of nonsense we had to put
up with Winston forever. I mean just remember back to it.
He's the one that goes back into history. The campaign
in ninety ninety six he said to the Prime Minister
at the time Bulger should not bother to make the
phone call out of the election, and ended up going
cal as you want them, same things playing Now the
question is he going to go and do a deal
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with Hipkins or MacNulty. I just don't trust him and
voters shouldn't either.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, he's already ruled out publicly going with Labor and Shippy.
I'm not sure that's going to be an issue for
you this year, Grant. The issue for you and your
mates and the National Party will be Winston and then
Andrew on the other side, cannibalizing your votes. Because Andrew Andrew,
you guys and the Act Party are trying to get
your votes. There's only one party you're going to get
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votes off, and that's Well and that's the next past.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
We've now in the past, we've looked at some of
the results we've got them from all across the spectrum.
Don't forget that Van Velden has to be a Green
Party voter back when she was very, very young. And so,
you know, people grow up, they realize how the market
works and how taxes are taking off you and how
they are often poorly spent, and so a lot of
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people do change their minds over time. So we're trying
to appeal to anyone and everyone that believes in the
same principles we do.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, you'll both agree on this one. Labor finally came
out with some policy and what an underwhelming bus policy
or public transport policy it was. It's just it's like
their capital gains tax with three free doctors visits. This is,
you know, subsidizing rich bureaucrats, wealthy bureaucrats and Wellington to
get to the work and the beehive or something. It's
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poorly targeted. There's nothing in this for the productive sector,
especially in rural New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, that's absolutely the case. It's typical Labor. They have
a general policy with no costings and then they spread
it and then they give it to everybody, even if
you don't need it. I mean, in one thing, since
only I cost sixty five million is dreaming when you
look at the numbers of people that news public transport
and the level of the subsidy. This typical poorly policy.
(09:06):
And also, as you say, Jamie, does nothing for those
of us in the rural sector who had you earn
the money then subsidizing this bak.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Although Chippy was going on about school buses, I didn't
quite get what he was meaning. They're rural school buses,
that is, Andrew Haggart. It doesn't affect you because you've
got a show for driven Crown limousine anyhow.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Actually, actually I drove up to the field as on
my own personal care, thank you very much. And so
there was no use of VIP. There no look again,
as Grant said, poorly directed funding. You know, there's no
sort of matching up with need. It's just here, here's
some cash and throw it around and who cares where
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it lands. And that's how we ended up with the
bloody mess of debt we've got at the moment. Okay,
I'm paying ten billion a year and interest on it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I agree with you. Got to go guys, I know, Grant,
you've got to select committee vote to go to how's
your neck, by the way, because you spent three days
at Field Days nodding in the background, so I imagine
you probably need a bit of a massage.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Great, very much.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Great to have you too on the Farmer Politician panel.
See you later.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
See your tweens.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Grant is a great sport. Thank you very much, and
Andrew Hoggard. Lots of politicians there. I saw Chloe there
in the Federated Farmer's Advocacy Hub. I don't think I
saw and to be fair, Chippy was there. We chatted
to him on thursday's show. Damian O'Connor was there. I
didn't catch up with Damian. I must catch up with
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them for a fight this week. Joe Luxton was there.
Didn't see any Tapati mariy. I didn't see Debbie or
Raweri there. That's not to say they weren't there, but
there werenats swarming all over the place in their blue
Swan dries. It's very good Field Days record record Wednesday,
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and we're getting back to let me just have a
look at my news wire, so we're back to where
we were again before COVID. Because it was a bit
of a challenge during those COVID years. I remember the
summer field days we had was a bit of a challenge.
The good thing was we got to play golf at
Tieki across the fence from field Days with all that
extra daylight, getting stronger and bigger and better. Up next
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the events, because we've got the Primary Industry Summit and
awards coming up next week in Auckland, and then the
next cab Off the Rank actually the Balance Farm Environment
Awards must be due as well. I'll get Michelle to
look up when they're coming up. But also on in
man or Tu, not in Manuwatu, in Taranaki, should I
say Taranaki, Manuatu the host region. The Young Farmer Grand
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Final happening in New Plymouth July second to fourth. Up
next we're going to do the first of our seven
profiles of the Grand finalists. It's the hometown boy, David
Riesby dressed to names and we'll Dane.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Back FMG Young Farmer of the Year twenty twenty six,
FMG proud principal sponsor since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So over the next seven days here on the country,
we are going to be profiling the seven Grand finalists
for the FMG Young Farmer of the Year taking place
in Taranaki July second to the fourth. Not long to
go now, and we're going to kick it off with
the home region Taranaki Manua tu You'll be a bit
(12:43):
of a fan favorite David Reesby. David tell us about
your farming background before we talk about what you've been
doing to try and win this competition. Tell the punters
what you.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Do afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, I'm dairy farming down here in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Minoa tu So, a couple of hours drive from Tarry. Yeah,
Jerry farming on the family farm four hundred and twenty
five freezing care So.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, you were a grand finalist in fanng Aray in
twenty twenty two. You finished out of the money and
I was thinking this is last chance saloon for you
because you can only go to a grand final twice.
But apparently that rule has changed.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Yes, in the last couple of years have increased it
to three. But I'm hoping I don't have to use it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, I'm hoping you don't too. You're a but actually,
to be honest, I know you and I know young
Tom Sleeve from down in Southland. I know his old
man better. But they're a great farming family from down there,
and you did a big favor to me and a
mate of mine called Greg Mensis at Emerson's and you
will be rewarded, I'm sure for this, David, because we
put out a call to give young Ted Menzies, who's
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a second year VET student, a bit of a placement
on a farm closer to Massi University than having to
come all the way back down south, and you're taking
the young bloke on.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, it would be good to see him just after
Grand Final. He's coming out for a two week placements,
so yeah, I'll teach him as much as I can,
and yeah, he's eager and willing to learn, so that's
always great.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So, as I said a former Grand finalist in twenty
twenty two, it's a huge advantage to go back for
a second dig.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Yeah, you sort of learn what you will learn about
the competition as such, you know, is a huge varya
of a race, skills needed, and you soon sort of
work out in my case, what I needed to work on,
and yeah, I've learned that lesson and hopefully I'm back
with yeah, a better run this time.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So as a dairy farmer, David Reesby. Have you been
on the end of a hand piece? Have you learned
to share a sheep?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, yeah, I actually have. Yeah, I'm lucky enough my
fiance Sierra, she's off she and beef farm, so yeah,
I've had a couple of goes. And yeah, it's been
a good learning curve, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So obviously you're going to be strong in the dairy department.
You're doing your best to strengthen your skills and some
of the other sectors. What do you think is are
your strong points heading into this Grand Final?
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Probably the more practical side of things, and maybe the quiz. Yeah,
I really enjoy the quiz. It's good to get up
there and the lights are shining on you and you
can't see the crowd, and yeah, you just got to
answer as many questions as you can.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
About your weaknesses? What do you think you need to
brush up on.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Probably a fear bit around the financials and yeah, I've
done a bit of work on them, me and my
public speaking, so I'm hoping that's going to help me
out a fair bit this time.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
A final question for you, David Riesby, representing Taranaki Manor
two in the FMG Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final.
I've mentioned Tom Sleeve from Otago South and have you
been eyeing up and I know you will have been
eyeing up the other regional finalists who do you reckon?
Are the big threats?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
They were all there will be a threat. They're all
great guys and they're all, you know, willing well deserving
winners if they take it out. Yeah, it's sort of
hard when you don't compete against them to know what
they're what they're like, and what their strengths and weaknesses are.
But yeah, that's sort of out of my control and
I can control what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So how many how many other second time offenders are there?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
There's justin Rye Rock from Northern who competed last year,
so and there's a few that have done quite a
few regional finals which will Yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Right, well there we go, David Reesby. We wish you
all the best and over the next six shows we
will be profiling the other six Grand finalists. Thanks for
kicking it off today on the Country.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Thank you, Jamy.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
What a great excuse Donald Trump's birthday was to play
about of TC Tony Christy here on the Country Yes,
Donald's eighty today were US time. He's declared earlier this morning.
If you haven't caught up on this, he declared the
toll free opening of the Strait of Hamus and the
end of the US navy a naval blockade. He addressed
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the ships of the world on social media, saying start
your engines, let the oil flow. So his eightieth mightn't
be a bad day for the Trumpster if he can
end the war and have a bit of UFC at
the White House. It's been a strange presidency, hasn't it all? Right?
Up next, I was talking to Grant McCullum and Andrew
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Hoggart our panel to kick off the show about the
crowds at Field Days. They were great crowds, and one
thing that did stand out to me, and I mentioned
to them, was the amount of young people. I suppose
everyone's young when you're my age, but the amount of
young people who were there and especially looked like young
farming couples there. They might have the kids with them,
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but it's just great to see the next generation coming
through and being so enthusiastic about the future of farming
because a few years ago, let's face it, some people
didn't want to be a farmer. Now it's sought after occupation.
You're right up there, So up next, Wendy Paul, chief
executive of Growing Future Farmers. We've got to work out.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We'd say he's honest anyway he chooses.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Jesus, are he losers nor get to live too long?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
RaSE, this is the last pie that I'll ever see.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Our next guest is someone I enjoyed meeting at Field Days.
Her name is Wendy Paul. She is the chief executive
of Growing Future Farmers. Now, Wendy, I apologize. You were
to be on the show on Friday. You were lined
up and waiting, but unfortunately Winston Peters kind of stole
you thunder a wee bit and we sort of kept
rolling with him. So apologies on behalf of the Country team.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
No worry, Jamies. As I said, I think that Winston's
a quite a bigger fish than me, so no problem
at all.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
While he certainly drew a crowd, and I know they
would have stayed if I'd given you the opportunity, but
I am giving you the opportunity today. And the reason
I'm chatting to you, or one of the reasons, is
my old mate Shane mcmanoay or, one of the biggest
contributors to New Zealand agriculture. I reckon in this country said,
when you're at field Days, you've got to chat to Wendy.
She's doing a great job with growing future farmers. He is,
(19:30):
of course the new chair of this organization. How do
you grow a future farmer, Wendy?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and we're very pleased to have Shane
on board of our chair as well. But we grow
a future fruture farmers through a really unique Harvard model
in the country where we take young students that have
school leaders between sixteen and twenty one, match them up
with some really focused farm trainers who become their mentors.
They commercial farm owners all around the country, and we
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run a two year program that gives them three components
to their training. One is the practical skills, progressively teach
them all they need to know on farm. The second
is the qualification, so they come out with NVQA level
two and three. And the third and for me, the
most important of the life skills that go along with
living and learning on a farm and working in a
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rural community. So they come out both as really great
farmers ready to go when they've finished the program. But
more important for me is that they come out as
confident young people that are ready to take their next
step on their journey.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do they get paid, No, they don't Gamy.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
We're very clear that these young people are students on
the farm. They're there to learn, so there's no employment arrangement.
It is completely a learning environment. There are a number
of parts of the program where they get weekly allowance
for I guess all their ancillaries, and to teach them
how to budget as well. In fact, but the farm
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trainer puts up a healthy hume farm for their accommodation.
They've meat supplied every week and wild far free power,
so it's pretty much that they fully founded the weekly
allowances just as I say for the incidentals, and also
we use that to teach them how to budget so
they don't blow it all on a box of beer
on the end of the first week.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
How many of these young farmers have you got on
the Growing Future Farmers program?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
So each year we have a year one and year
two cohort running and across those two is about one
hundred and thirty.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Every year on.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Average we graduate fifty five year twos each year, so
we've to date we've had one hundred and seventy five
graduates going into the workplace from the program.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Do you struggle to get enough farmers to host these
young students, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Jamie, that's particularly one of our biggest constraints. I mean,
we've got an amazing bunch of farm trainers that have
come back repeatedly over the last six years, about one
hundred to one hundred and ten farm trainers a year
put their hands up. But on the flip side, we
have a huge demand from young people wanting to get
into the sector. So the last year we had about
one hundred and fifty applicants. We're only three weeks into
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our applications for next years and we've already got over
one hundred applicants. So the constraint really does come on
the availability of those farmers. So I just encourage anybody
that's interested to put their hand up. There's so many
benefits of doing this, not only for the industry, but
for your farm and obviously for the young people that
are coming through.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Are you across all the sectors sheep and beef, dairy, horticulture,
boris streets, not all.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
At this stage, we've started in sheep and beef. That's
where the foundation members Tam and Dan Jex Blake kicked
it off. We've only recently signed a partnership with Fontira
to get into dairy, so we're running our first could
wort of dairy pilots that started off in April of
this year and we've got a long term agreement with
Fontira to keep growing that and we're definitely keen to
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consider the transferability of the program into halt and part
of the food and fiber sector.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
There's all the accent happening there, Wendy. They're sure is
is that like South African It is.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Yes, born and bred in South Africa, but a Kiwi
citizen now, well.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm pleased to hear that. Wendy. You're a good catch
for New Zealand. What is your corporate background?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So in New Zealand I started with Fontier. I spent
eighteen and a half years with Fontier, which is where
my love of the New Zealand agricultural sectors started. Many
different roles which I won't go into, but the last
couple was very much focused on purpose driven in people
and that's the passion that took me into this role
in GFF to really help that next generation of farmers
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for our sector.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, lovely to catch up in person at Field Days.
If people want to find out more about Growing Future Farmers,
either as a host farmer or a student, I presume
they just go to your website or Google you.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Yeah, that would be amazing. Everything you need to know
is on our website. And it was great to meet
you too.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Thanks Jamie, thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Wendy Paul, Chief Executive Growing Future Farmers. It's been a
good day for Trump. Peace in the Middle East, we
hope blowing out eighty candles and he's got the UFC
ow on the south lawny south lawn of the White House. Unbelievable, unbelievable,
But anyhow, it's happening. We'll update happenings because I think
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it got underwaigh at about midday. We'll see if there's
any anything on the sports wires about that next but
after the break we're going to do Rural News, and
I think Michelle's lined up some of the big winners
from the Field Days who won the Site Exhibitor Awards.
We know that AFCO took out the best outdoor site
for the large ones and easily We'll not easily, but
(24:47):
you can't beat the lunches at AFCO at Field Days
they will have a look at sport for you before
the end of the hour. Someone else who had a
big job at Field Days, Dr Jaqueline Roweth. She's written
the really interesting Peace I Innovation and AI and she's
a wee bit skeptical about AI. And I was going
to say Stu Duncan, I just got a text. Stu
(25:08):
Duncan's at a big bull sale today. He will be
talking ball quite literally today. Phil Duncan's the Duncan. I'm
after going to talk to you about the super al
Nino before the end of the hour. So right, this
is the last. Don't you just love? Tony Christy Michelle Watt,
(25:41):
Good afternoon, and remind me to play the rural news thing.
Have you recovered from your debut performance at Field Days?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Ah, slowly recovering. I just want to do a shout
out though, to all the listeners that turned up and
said hello and actually said high to me and recognized
us and loved the show especially. I think it was true,
older gentleman. I'm very sorry I can't remember your names,
but you came for the full three days and watched us.
It was fantastic to see your smiling face as the
front row. So thank you for coming.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Along, absolutely and going to the other end of the
age scale. The Rural Broadcaster of the Year. This is
an internal award of course to big Riley Kennedy from
Business Desk. What a great tourist here is. He's such
a bitter and cynical man for one of such tender years.
He's twenty three or twenty four. Imagine what he's like
when he's going to be my age.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm worried about when he's gonna be like at
sixty five, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I am very worried about Riley. But he was a
great company at Field Days. Right here's Rural.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
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cot On ZIM for your local stockist.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
And it was great to see such positivity at Field Dose.
I think over one hundred and thirty thousand people through
the gates for the four days, which is incredible. Apparently
back to pre COVID levels, which is also fantastic, I
mean sen.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And record crowds on the Wednesday. As I said earlier,
I thought Thursday might give it a nudge. Friday is
always busy and we weren't there on Saturday. So you've
got the site winners I do.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Indeed, the best food vender was get Loaded Food Truck.
The best indoor site agribusiness category was Agriscy, New Zealand
the best indoor site non agribusiness was the Neurological Foundation
Great Cause, and of course, like you mentioned, f CO
one best outdoor site and they do do one of
the best lunches, although I didn't get around everybody but
high Tom Young if you're listening our fantastic lunch, thanks
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for looking after us there. And of course there were
some more smaller sites as well, but the best outdoor
large site FC as we mentioned again and sustainability will
went to Ravens Down and Pure Cabins won the small
Business award in that section as.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, So there you go. Those are the winners at
field Days. Everyone was a oneer who was at field Days.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Spores on the country with a fco Q we owned.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's rare.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yes, so Trump's UFC. I think it's meant to be
starting midday our time. We need to see if we
can find it on our sky channel in here. Have
we got a sky channel in here? I think we
have nowadays, haven't we? Yes?
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Yeah, I don't know if it's live. Like I said,
the build up, I don't know if you've ever watched
UFC anyone out there, but the build up goes on
for ages, so I doubt that it started yet.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, it's an occasion celebrating two hundred and fifty years
two hundred and fiftieth birthday coming up on July the
fourth for the United States. Do you think the Founding
Father's ever envisaged Trump and UFC on the White House lawn?
I doubt it, but it's going to be entertaining anyhow.
I would to be honest, I haven't really watched UFC.
It's not my cup of tea, Michelle, but I would
(28:38):
sooner watch golf, and I only got to see a
wee bit of this this morning, and that was the
Canadian Open. Ryan Fox was defending his title, so a
touching tribute after an emotional maiden triumph on Golf's PGA
tour for Bud Corley, winning the Canadian Open by two shots.
Corleym is three years of competitive golf after a lie
(29:00):
life threatening car accident in twenty eighteen. He's dedicated the
win to his wife and also in sports news, Oliver
Welsh and Ben Taylor have edged close to to New
Zealand rowing greats at the latest World Cup regatta in Bulgaria.
The reigning world champions in the pair hit the finish
(29:20):
zero point five four of a second, shy of Hamish
Bond and Eric Murray's world lead time from the twenty
twelve London Olympics. So well done, those guys. That's sports
news for you. Up next, Ai and why she's skeptical
about it, especially in agriculture, Doctor Jaquelin Rowath.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Show me away, Tom Morell Lord we go well clan
over Morell as Ween Murray who waits for me sweet
(30:02):
like a baby.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
Mind.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Here is another person whose company I enjoyed at field Days.
As always, Doctor Jacquelin Rowiths did a wonderful job adjudicating
the Big Rural Industry leader's debate on Wednesday night at Claudland's.
We might come back to that one, Jacqueline. But like me,
you're a veteran of field days, what did you make
of it?
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Really good but constrained optimism because all the figures are
looking as though they're going in the right direction with
things like the innovation, the schedules and the milk payout.
But constraint because of the uncertainty in terms of the
super El Nino and what it will really mean for
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your individual farm. And of course political are constrained about
the politics in terms of we've got regional counsels saying
different things about farming, and they might all might not
be merged. And the government is making all sorts of
good statements. In fact, all the parties are making good statements,
but what actually happens has yet to be seen. So
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constrained optimism, but good news in terms of people wanting
our products and all the fears about tormented you know,
precision fermentation and then veganism, and then.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Oh no, the weight loss drugs.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
None of them have knocked off the desire for proper,
good protein food and the best protein comes from animals.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Well to the contrary, Jack Well, and I don't want
to correct you here, but the weight loss drugs are
great news for new Zealand.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
Yeah, well that's what I said. It's a sorry contrary
to the bad news that they were going to mean,
we did. Our products aren't needed anymore. Actually they needed more.
So all the naysays that said that that fermentation or
veganism or then the weight loss strugs will mean we
didn't have markets. Our markets are fine and we can
see that in the schedules in the milk Prime.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Well, I'm doing good stuff. Okay, I misheard rather than
you misspoke and quoting the great Man himself fake news.
We're getting news as we go to air that we've
got a deal. It looks like are supposedly going to
be signed in Switzerland on Friday. Look sentiment alone, this
is going to make a huge difference because but everything
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has an oil component to it and a fertilizer component
to it. So this is good news for New Zealand.
Let's hope they can see the thing through.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Absolutely, we agree, and so we're all watching and listening
and trying to work out what actually is going to
be the truth. But yes, nobody wants this war, so
even Mann people don't want the war. Let's get back
on track, yep.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Okay, now, you've written, once again a wonderful column for us.
You do it fortnightly on our website, The Country, dot
co dot in Z. And one of the things you've
talked about is innovation and AI and you've tied that
into Field Days and here's I'm just going to read
one of your week sentences here and I thought this
was a good one. Some of the development showcased at
Field Days with a brainchild of somebody growing up on
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a farm undertaking tertiary education and an allied subject engineering, mechanics, computing,
and no finer example of that than Craig, Peggott and
Holter right.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
So thinking about what might make the difference and then
being able to examine the unintended consequences because they know
actually things that work on farm, and discuss what might
happen with other rural professionals or farmers or scientists. And
that was always my concern. Something that seems like a
really good thing, best since life spread, actually has unintended
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consequences that we didn't think about. And quite often that's
because the person operating them on or the person inventing
them didn't actually really understand what it would do on farm.
So there are all sorts of implications with the new
technologies that we're using.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Plus we're getting more and more agribusiness into more and
more secondary schools in particular.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
Yes, yes, and that's great. And the students of final
year students bringing their inventions along and talking to the
judges about what it's going to do on farm. It's
just utterly delightful and we want more of that, but
people who understand how it will work on farm as well.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I just want to pick up on another comment you
made about AI artificial intelligence. You talked about che GPT
and co pilot, all these artificial intelligence tools that are
right at our fingertips. You're questioning some of.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Them with sixty percent of the information coming through being incorrect,
and people not knowing enough about the questions they've asked
to understand that actually they've been given a poor pier
as an answer. Yes, I'm pretty worried, absolutely unworried. So
the importance of developing the questions, the astute questioning part
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of that actually comes knowing what you're talking about. So
it is a big issue. And you know, I love teaching,
but gosh, it must be difficult marketing stuff at the moment.
You need to be able to know enough about what
you're talking about to think that can't be right when
the answer comes from AI or chat GPT. And that's
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my concern. How do we enable students going through the
education system to understand that they still need to know
a lot about the facts, the realities of what they're
thinking for the future, in order to be able to
ground truth the information that comes from these new tools.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Doctor Jaquelin row with there. You can read all about
it on our website The Country dot co dot in Z.
I'm glad and I'm glad, Jacqueline, you've thought out from
a very chilly Thursday morning at Field Days. I'll catch
you in a couple of eggs.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Lovely, Thanks Jomies.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Thanks Jacqueline. She does a great job adjudicating that debate.
What a good night that was. Mike Green and his
team raised four hundred and twenty grand and count for
the Rural Support Trust. Look, he's the latest we've got
on our news wire about Trump and Iran. Straight up
a moose hesitancy about the lack of details surrounding a
(36:13):
newly confirmed US arranean peace steal. US President Donald Trump
says in agreement's been reached to cease all military operations
and allow free transit through the Strait of her Moos.
CNN reports will take effect Friday local time, but former
State Department Middle East negotiator, a guy by the name
(36:34):
of Aaron Miller, told CNN people that he needed to
see the fine print first. Surely this is that, surely
we can do a peace deal. Up next, we're going
to wrap the country on a Monday with Mondays leading
weather man Phil Duncan.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Stay through the day time. There's a special.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Weather on the country with Fiji where happiness comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
And for you.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
That day day, welcome back to the country, wrapping up
with Phil Duncan, weather watch with the weather. Happy birthday,
Donald Trump. It's been a good one for him, Phil.
He's got a peace deal in the Middle East, supposedly,
and he's got the UFC on the White House lawn here.
Speaker 11 (37:28):
It's a good day to be Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I'm not sure about that, but anyhow is it a
good day to be Phil Duncan. Are you a happy
weather man?
Speaker 11 (37:36):
Well, the weather is certainly not a lot of extreme
weather going on at the moment, and we've got basically
the headline this week is cold fronts versus high pressure.
We've got a lot of high pressure in the Tasman
Sea and east of New Zealand, but not over the
top of us. And to be honest with you, these
cold fronts that are moving up to New Zealand, one today,
(37:57):
another one later in the week, and with all this
high pressure around us, it's very much like in ol
Nino weather pattern. So we're already seeing that our Nino
patterns showing up at the New Zealand Tasman Sea area,
which is often defined by high pressure out at sea,
and we're on the edges of it, and we get
sort of these cold fronts that move in and we
definitely get a temperature drop, but it's not necessarily producing
(38:19):
huge amounts of brain all over the country.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Hey, fell I heard Hosking this morning back from his
two week holiday declaring super al Nino was fake news.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Well, well there we go. So look, there are two
ways of measuring al nino. There is the global one
where you look at the whole Pacific Ocean and that's
where you see this super al nino, this much stronger
than usual one being recorded there. The second way of
measuring it is how does that afflect affect New Zealand
and Australia. And that's a little harder to answer, especially
(38:50):
because we're quite a small country. One high pressure zone
or one big low can completely cover our weather for
three weeks, and so we're a little bit harder to work.
But as I say, we're already seeing this Alnino pattern forming.
I think since May we've seen a lot of high
pressure around the country. We're getting plenty of cold fronts,
but they're not necessarily delivering massive amounts of rain in
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the east, although there is some rain today in Canterbury,
and we'll get some of that rain moving up into
the eastern side of the North Island through Wide and
Upper and Hawks Bay going into.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Tomawa, and those areas really need a winter recharge, don't they.
Because look, I'm to using field days as a barometer,
phil I can't remember and thirty years odd years agoing
the car parks being drier. So though Ikatto regions certainly
firm underfoot, but especially those eastern regions, they need to
get as much as they can before this super a
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Nino might take place.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
Yeah, I mean, the concern with a strong al Nino
is that it can enhance our spring and our autumn
weather patterns, and so we get a lot of westerlies.
We might get more of that going into spring. But
there's a tropical load today leaving Fiji. If it wasn't
for the high pressure and the Tasman that would be
a rain maker for us. So that's what we're likely
to be looking at these loads that miss New Zealand's
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fingers crossed that you know, we get one that sits
over us at some point over the next couple of
months and reverses how dry some places are getting. That's
all it would take.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Okay, fell Duncan there from where the watch Monday's Expert.
We're the man here on the Country. Good to be
back in the studio. Love my time at field Days. Anyhow,
we'll be back tomorrow. I'm not even sure who's on
the show tomorrow. I'll figure that out between now and
midday tomorrow. Catch you then.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
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Speaker 4 (00:40):
Good time and good afternoon or good afternoon, New Zealand.
I'm Jamie McKay, still recovering from field days. This is
the Country brought to you by I Suzu and Farmlands.
Thank you Farmlands for hosting us magnificently for three days.
Your happy birthday baby to pot forty seven and forty
(01:02):
five for that man. For that matter, Donald Trumpet's maybe
a good birthday for the Trumpster. We may have a
peace deal in the Middle East. More about that as
the show progresses. Word has it that there will be
a peace steal signed in Switzerland or Geneva, Switzerland on Friday.
(01:24):
Don't hold your breath, but anyhow, it's really really positive news.
We're going to kick off the show today with today's
panel Andrew Hoggard and Grant McCallum. Fess up here. I
had to catch up with them a wee bit earlier
this morning, simply because Grant was in a select committee
and had to be in for a vote at midday.
David Riesby is the first of seven Young Farmer of
(01:48):
the Year Grand finalists we're profiling over the next seven
shows here on the Country. He's representing the home region
I was going to say province, but home region of
Taranaki man or two. So we'll catch up with David
see how his preparations are going for that big Young
Farmer Grand Final in New Plymouth. Were based out on
New Plymouth July two to four. Wendy Paul missed out
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on chatting to her on Wednesday on Friday, should I
say at Field Days because Winston sort of went a
wee bit longer than anticipated, but there was a lot
of people keen to hear what he had to say.
So Wendy's been kind enough to revisit us today. She
is the chief executive of Growing Future Farmers. Doctor jaquilln
rowis all about innovation and AI AI was a big
(02:34):
theme at the Field Days. We're going to talk to
her and Phil Duncan on the Super al Nino. Plus
we're going to tell you who won all the site awards.
I'm assuming Michelle will have this in a rural news,
but I can tell you the place that does the
best lunch at field Days if you're lucky enough to
build to weasel your way in there. Half Co, New
Zealand claimed the best outdoor site Larves three thousand, three
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thousand and three one hundred square meters and over. They
did a great job, So well done to all the
team at AFCO. Right now, we're going to kick it
off with Today's Farmer Politician Panel. Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCullum next,
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Today's Farmer Politician Panel join us on the country. They
were meant to chat to me at field Days, but
I had bigger fish to fry. Let's face it, Lux
and Chippy change in Swinston, Peters almost Andrew Hoggart, you
made the cut because you were a man in demand
at field Days, not because of the excellent work you're
doing as Minister of Biosecurity, but because of your reckless
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behavior on the end of a chainsaw. Well, it's not
a good afternoon, it's good morning as we record this, Andrew, Yeah,
good Jamie Yellow.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There was plenty of farmers coming up to me asking
what this other technique was that everyone said we should
be using this. Most of them, as I spoke to,
only thought there was one technique and I hit it mastered.
I'm sure someone wanted me to put a few road
cones out and crash. I'll keep doing it how.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I do it well.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Grant McCallum, National MP for Northland, you slightly woke. You
would do it. You would play by the rule book.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Wouldn't you play.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
By the rules Jamie? You know what I'm like? Yes, yes,
always keep them right. That's the nature of it. Although, yeah,
you do have the wonder of some people. See they
have a lot of time to focus on a whole
unimportant things. I did feel a weak, it sighed to Andrew,
but you know that's the way I go.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, Grant. An election year for a politician, any publicity's
good publicity. What did Oscar Wild say? There's only one
thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being
talked about at all. Hey, look, as we record this,
it's like I got to fess up. This is a
pre record because Grant, you were unavailable because you were
hobnobbing in a select committee. So I had to pre
record it as we As we record this interview at
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about quarter to eleven, it looks like Trump has got
a deal in the Middle East. He might have blown
something up by midday.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Who knows.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
He is hoping. I'll believe it when ships starts sailing
through the straits of Women's then we know we've got
a deal. Until then, it's all speculation. But he is
hoping because honestly, we all need the price of fuel
and come down. There's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, let's talk about Field Days. They came out with
the numbers on Saturday afternoon, so record attendants on Wednesday.
I knew that. I thought Thursday might have given it
a nudge, but all up, I wasn't there on Saturday.
But it was a great attendance, great weather. Although I
must admit, Andrew Haggard and I'll stay with you, I
don't think I've ever been as cold at Field Days
(05:38):
as I was on Thursday morning. That was the Southland
frost and the White caddo.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, she was a bit chilly, but you know, may
it was a glorious day or all of the days
actually were of you know, who would have thought middle
of June and everyone's wearing sunglasses. It was a stone day,
and yeah, the attendance was pretty impressive, and you know,
the vibe of the place was pretty good as well.
I remember a few years back and it was like
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walking through a funeral procession, whereas you know, people were engaged,
they were excited, and yeah, found a really good buzz
to the event.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
We're going to be talking to Wendy Paul slightly from
Growing Future Farmers and Grant McCallum. I'd have to say,
and this is just anecdotal observation, there was a hell
of a lot of what looked like young farmers, men
and women there, often with their young families. You know,
they looked like farmers, they dressed like farmers. I'm making
the assumption they were farmers. But there was a lot
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of young people there.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
I know they It's great to see because that's the
future our sector, right. I want to talk about a
bloke who's quite the other end of the scale, who
spent his time running around trying to win VOTs, and
fellow Lord Winston Peters, who I just feel he talked about,
I mean the gall of the bloke he says he
wants people to vote from an insurance policy. What an
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insurance policy for when he goes with Labor. I mean,
this is the sort of nonsense we had to put
up with Winston forever. I mean just remember back to it.
He's the one that goes back into history. The campaign
in ninety ninety six he said to the Prime Minister
at the time Bulger should not bother to make the
phone call out of the election, and ended up going
cal as you want them, same things playing Now the
question is he going to go and do a deal
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with Hipkins or MacNulty. I just don't trust him and
voters shouldn't either.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, he's already ruled out publicly going with Labor and Shippy.
I'm not sure that's going to be an issue for
you this year, Grant. The issue for you and your
mates and the National Party will be Winston and then
Andrew on the other side, cannibalizing your votes. Because Andrew Andrew,
you guys and the Act Party are trying to get
your votes. There's only one party you're going to get
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votes off, and that's Well and that's the next past.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
We've now in the past, we've looked at some of
the results we've got them from all across the spectrum.
Don't forget that Van Velden has to be a Green
Party voter back when she was very, very young. And so,
you know, people grow up, they realize how the market
works and how taxes are taking off you and how
they are often poorly spent, and so a lot of
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people do change their minds over time. So we're trying
to appeal to anyone and everyone that believes in the
same principles we do.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, you'll both agree on this one. Labor finally came
out with some policy and what an underwhelming bus policy
or public transport policy it was. It's just it's like
their capital gains tax with three free doctors visits. This is,
you know, subsidizing rich bureaucrats, wealthy bureaucrats and Wellington to
get to the work and the beehive or something. It's
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poorly targeted. There's nothing in this for the productive sector,
especially in rural New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, that's absolutely the case. It's typical Labor. They have
a general policy with no costings and then they spread
it and then they give it to everybody, even if
you don't need it. I mean, in one thing, since
only I cost sixty five million is dreaming when you
look at the numbers of people that news public transport
and the level of the subsidy. This typical poorly policy.
(09:06):
And also, as you say, Jamie, does nothing for those
of us in the rural sector who had you earn
the money then subsidizing this bak.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Although Chippy was going on about school buses, I didn't
quite get what he was meaning. They're rural school buses,
that is, Andrew Haggart. It doesn't affect you because you've
got a show for driven Crown limousine anyhow.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Actually, actually I drove up to the field as on
my own personal care, thank you very much. And so
there was no use of VIP. There no look again,
as Grant said, poorly directed funding. You know, there's no
sort of matching up with need. It's just here, here's
some cash and throw it around and who cares where
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it lands. And that's how we ended up with the
bloody mess of debt we've got at the moment. Okay,
I'm paying ten billion a year and interest on it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I agree with you. Got to go guys, I know, Grant,
you've got to select committee vote to go to how's
your neck, by the way, because you spent three days
at Field Days nodding in the background, so I imagine
you probably need a bit of a massage.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Great, very much.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Great to have you too on the Farmer Politician panel.
See you later.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
See your tweens.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Grant is a great sport. Thank you very much, and
Andrew Hoggard. Lots of politicians there. I saw Chloe there
in the Federated Farmer's Advocacy Hub. I don't think I
saw and to be fair, Chippy was there. We chatted
to him on thursday's show. Damian O'Connor was there. I
didn't catch up with Damian. I must catch up with
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them for a fight this week. Joe Luxton was there.
Didn't see any Tapati mariy. I didn't see Debbie or
Raweri there. That's not to say they weren't there, but
there werenats swarming all over the place in their blue
Swan dries. It's very good Field Days record record Wednesday,
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and we're getting back to let me just have a
look at my news wire, so we're back to where
we were again before COVID. Because it was a bit
of a challenge during those COVID years. I remember the
summer field days we had was a bit of a challenge.
The good thing was we got to play golf at
Tieki across the fence from field Days with all that
extra daylight, getting stronger and bigger and better. Up next
(11:26):
the events, because we've got the Primary Industry Summit and
awards coming up next week in Auckland, and then the
next cab Off the Rank actually the Balance Farm Environment
Awards must be due as well. I'll get Michelle to
look up when they're coming up. But also on in
man or Tu, not in Manuwatu, in Taranaki, should I
say Taranaki, Manuatu the host region. The Young Farmer Grand
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Final happening in New Plymouth July second to fourth. Up
next we're going to do the first of our seven
profiles of the Grand finalists. It's the hometown boy, David
Riesby dressed to names and we'll Dane.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Back FMG Young Farmer of the Year twenty twenty six,
FMG proud principal sponsor since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So over the next seven days here on the country,
we are going to be profiling the seven Grand finalists
for the FMG Young Farmer of the Year taking place
in Taranaki July second to the fourth. Not long to
go now, and we're going to kick it off with
the home region Taranaki Manua tu You'll be a bit
(12:43):
of a fan favorite David Reesby. David tell us about
your farming background before we talk about what you've been
doing to try and win this competition. Tell the punters
what you.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Do afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, I'm dairy farming down here in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Minoa tu So, a couple of hours drive from Tarry. Yeah,
Jerry farming on the family farm four hundred and twenty
five freezing care So.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, you were a grand finalist in fanng Aray in
twenty twenty two. You finished out of the money and
I was thinking this is last chance saloon for you
because you can only go to a grand final twice.
But apparently that rule has changed.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Yes, in the last couple of years have increased it
to three. But I'm hoping I don't have to use it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, I'm hoping you don't too. You're a but actually,
to be honest, I know you and I know young
Tom Sleeve from down in Southland. I know his old
man better. But they're a great farming family from down there,
and you did a big favor to me and a
mate of mine called Greg Mensis at Emerson's and you
will be rewarded, I'm sure for this, David, because we
put out a call to give young Ted Menzies, who's
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a second year VET student, a bit of a placement
on a farm closer to Massi University than having to
come all the way back down south, and you're taking
the young bloke on.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, it would be good to see him just after
Grand Final. He's coming out for a two week placements,
so yeah, I'll teach him as much as I can,
and yeah, he's eager and willing to learn, so that's
always great.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So, as I said a former Grand finalist in twenty
twenty two, it's a huge advantage to go back for
a second dig.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Yeah, you sort of learn what you will learn about
the competition as such, you know, is a huge varya
of a race, skills needed, and you soon sort of
work out in my case, what I needed to work on,
and yeah, I've learned that lesson and hopefully I'm back
with yeah, a better run this time.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So as a dairy farmer, David Reesby. Have you been
on the end of a hand piece? Have you learned
to share a sheep?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, yeah, I actually have. Yeah, I'm lucky enough my
fiance Sierra, she's off she and beef farm, so yeah,
I've had a couple of goes. And yeah, it's been
a good learning curve, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So obviously you're going to be strong in the dairy department.
You're doing your best to strengthen your skills and some
of the other sectors. What do you think is are
your strong points heading into this Grand Final?
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Probably the more practical side of things, and maybe the quiz. Yeah,
I really enjoy the quiz. It's good to get up
there and the lights are shining on you and you
can't see the crowd, and yeah, you just got to
answer as many questions as you can.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
About your weaknesses? What do you think you need to
brush up on.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Probably a fear bit around the financials and yeah, I've
done a bit of work on them, me and my
public speaking, so I'm hoping that's going to help me
out a fair bit this time.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
A final question for you, David Riesby, representing Taranaki Manor
two in the FMG Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final.
I've mentioned Tom Sleeve from Otago South and have you
been eyeing up and I know you will have been
eyeing up the other regional finalists who do you reckon?
Are the big threats?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
They were all there will be a threat. They're all
great guys and they're all, you know, willing well deserving
winners if they take it out. Yeah, it's sort of
hard when you don't compete against them to know what
they're what they're like, and what their strengths and weaknesses are.
But yeah, that's sort of out of my control and
I can control what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So how many how many other second time offenders are there?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
There's justin Rye Rock from Northern who competed last year,
so and there's a few that have done quite a
few regional finals which will Yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Right, well there we go, David Reesby. We wish you
all the best and over the next six shows we
will be profiling the other six Grand finalists. Thanks for
kicking it off today on the Country.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Thank you, Jamy.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
What a great excuse Donald Trump's birthday was to play
about of TC Tony Christy here on the Country Yes,
Donald's eighty today were US time. He's declared earlier this morning.
If you haven't caught up on this, he declared the
toll free opening of the Strait of Hamus and the
end of the US navy a naval blockade. He addressed
(17:18):
the ships of the world on social media, saying start
your engines, let the oil flow. So his eightieth mightn't
be a bad day for the Trumpster if he can
end the war and have a bit of UFC at
the White House. It's been a strange presidency, hasn't it all? Right?
Up next, I was talking to Grant McCullum and Andrew
(17:41):
Hoggart our panel to kick off the show about the
crowds at Field Days. They were great crowds, and one
thing that did stand out to me, and I mentioned
to them, was the amount of young people. I suppose
everyone's young when you're my age, but the amount of
young people who were there and especially looked like young
farming couples there. They might have the kids with them,
(18:01):
but it's just great to see the next generation coming
through and being so enthusiastic about the future of farming
because a few years ago, let's face it, some people
didn't want to be a farmer. Now it's sought after occupation.
You're right up there, So up next, Wendy Paul, chief
executive of Growing Future Farmers. We've got to work out.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We'd say he's honest anyway he chooses.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Jesus, are he losers nor get to live too long?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
RaSE, this is the last pie that I'll ever see.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Our next guest is someone I enjoyed meeting at Field Days.
Her name is Wendy Paul. She is the chief executive
of Growing Future Farmers. Now, Wendy, I apologize. You were
to be on the show on Friday. You were lined
up and waiting, but unfortunately Winston Peters kind of stole
you thunder a wee bit and we sort of kept
rolling with him. So apologies on behalf of the Country team.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
No worry, Jamies. As I said, I think that Winston's
a quite a bigger fish than me, so no problem
at all.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
While he certainly drew a crowd, and I know they
would have stayed if I'd given you the opportunity, but
I am giving you the opportunity today. And the reason
I'm chatting to you, or one of the reasons, is
my old mate Shane mcmanoay or, one of the biggest
contributors to New Zealand agriculture. I reckon in this country said,
when you're at field Days, you've got to chat to Wendy.
She's doing a great job with growing future farmers. He is,
(19:30):
of course the new chair of this organization. How do
you grow a future farmer, Wendy?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and we're very pleased to have Shane
on board of our chair as well. But we grow
a future fruture farmers through a really unique Harvard model
in the country where we take young students that have
school leaders between sixteen and twenty one, match them up
with some really focused farm trainers who become their mentors.
They commercial farm owners all around the country, and we
(19:58):
run a two year program that gives them three components
to their training. One is the practical skills, progressively teach
them all they need to know on farm. The second
is the qualification, so they come out with NVQA level
two and three. And the third and for me, the
most important of the life skills that go along with
living and learning on a farm and working in a
(20:19):
rural community. So they come out both as really great
farmers ready to go when they've finished the program. But
more important for me is that they come out as
confident young people that are ready to take their next
step on their journey.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do they get paid, No, they don't Gamy.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
We're very clear that these young people are students on
the farm. They're there to learn, so there's no employment arrangement.
It is completely a learning environment. There are a number
of parts of the program where they get weekly allowance
for I guess all their ancillaries, and to teach them
how to budget as well. In fact, but the farm
(20:57):
trainer puts up a healthy hume farm for their accommodation.
They've meat supplied every week and wild far free power,
so it's pretty much that they fully founded the weekly
allowances just as I say for the incidentals, and also
we use that to teach them how to budget so
they don't blow it all on a box of beer
on the end of the first week.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
How many of these young farmers have you got on
the Growing Future Farmers program?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
So each year we have a year one and year
two cohort running and across those two is about one
hundred and thirty.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Every year on.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Average we graduate fifty five year twos each year, so
we've to date we've had one hundred and seventy five
graduates going into the workplace from the program.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Do you struggle to get enough farmers to host these
young students, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Jamie, that's particularly one of our biggest constraints. I mean,
we've got an amazing bunch of farm trainers that have
come back repeatedly over the last six years, about one
hundred to one hundred and ten farm trainers a year
put their hands up. But on the flip side, we
have a huge demand from young people wanting to get
into the sector. So the last year we had about
one hundred and fifty applicants. We're only three weeks into
(22:10):
our applications for next years and we've already got over
one hundred applicants. So the constraint really does come on
the availability of those farmers. So I just encourage anybody
that's interested to put their hand up. There's so many
benefits of doing this, not only for the industry, but
for your farm and obviously for the young people that
are coming through.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Are you across all the sectors sheep and beef, dairy, horticulture,
boris streets, not all.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
At this stage, we've started in sheep and beef. That's
where the foundation members Tam and Dan Jex Blake kicked
it off. We've only recently signed a partnership with Fontira
to get into dairy, so we're running our first could
wort of dairy pilots that started off in April of
this year and we've got a long term agreement with
Fontira to keep growing that and we're definitely keen to
(22:56):
consider the transferability of the program into halt and part
of the food and fiber sector.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
There's all the accent happening there, Wendy. They're sure is
is that like South African It is.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Yes, born and bred in South Africa, but a Kiwi
citizen now, well.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm pleased to hear that. Wendy. You're a good catch
for New Zealand. What is your corporate background?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So in New Zealand I started with Fontier. I spent
eighteen and a half years with Fontier, which is where
my love of the New Zealand agricultural sectors started. Many
different roles which I won't go into, but the last
couple was very much focused on purpose driven in people
and that's the passion that took me into this role
in GFF to really help that next generation of farmers
(23:41):
for our sector.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, lovely to catch up in person at Field Days.
If people want to find out more about Growing Future Farmers,
either as a host farmer or a student, I presume
they just go to your website or Google you.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Yeah, that would be amazing. Everything you need to know
is on our website. And it was great to meet
you too.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Thanks Jamie, thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Wendy Paul, Chief Executive Growing Future Farmers. It's been a
good day for Trump. Peace in the Middle East, we
hope blowing out eighty candles and he's got the UFC
ow on the south lawny south lawn of the White House. Unbelievable, unbelievable,
But anyhow, it's happening. We'll update happenings because I think
(24:25):
it got underwaigh at about midday. We'll see if there's
any anything on the sports wires about that next but
after the break we're going to do Rural News, and
I think Michelle's lined up some of the big winners
from the Field Days who won the Site Exhibitor Awards.
We know that AFCO took out the best outdoor site
for the large ones and easily We'll not easily, but
(24:47):
you can't beat the lunches at AFCO at Field Days
they will have a look at sport for you before
the end of the hour. Someone else who had a
big job at Field Days, Dr Jaqueline Roweth. She's written
the really interesting Peace I Innovation and AI and she's
a wee bit skeptical about AI. And I was going
to say Stu Duncan, I just got a text. Stu
(25:08):
Duncan's at a big bull sale today. He will be
talking ball quite literally today. Phil Duncan's the Duncan. I'm
after going to talk to you about the super al
Nino before the end of the hour. So right, this
is the last. Don't you just love? Tony Christy Michelle Watt,
(25:41):
Good afternoon, and remind me to play the rural news thing.
Have you recovered from your debut performance at Field Days?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Ah, slowly recovering. I just want to do a shout
out though, to all the listeners that turned up and
said hello and actually said high to me and recognized
us and loved the show especially. I think it was true,
older gentleman. I'm very sorry I can't remember your names,
but you came for the full three days and watched us.
It was fantastic to see your smiling face as the
front row. So thank you for coming.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Along, absolutely and going to the other end of the
age scale. The Rural Broadcaster of the Year. This is
an internal award of course to big Riley Kennedy from
Business Desk. What a great tourist here is. He's such
a bitter and cynical man for one of such tender years.
He's twenty three or twenty four. Imagine what he's like
when he's going to be my age.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm worried about when he's gonna be like at
sixty five, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I am very worried about Riley. But he was a
great company at Field Days. Right here's Rural.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
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leading right on lawn Bower Bread. Visit steel Ford dot
cot On ZIM for your local stockist.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
And it was great to see such positivity at Field Dose.
I think over one hundred and thirty thousand people through
the gates for the four days, which is incredible. Apparently
back to pre COVID levels, which is also fantastic, I
mean sen.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And record crowds on the Wednesday. As I said earlier,
I thought Thursday might give it a nudge. Friday is
always busy and we weren't there on Saturday. So you've
got the site winners I do.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Indeed, the best food vender was get Loaded Food Truck.
The best indoor site agribusiness category was Agriscy, New Zealand
the best indoor site non agribusiness was the Neurological Foundation
Great Cause, and of course, like you mentioned, f CO
one best outdoor site and they do do one of
the best lunches, although I didn't get around everybody but
high Tom Young if you're listening our fantastic lunch, thanks
(27:28):
for looking after us there. And of course there were
some more smaller sites as well, but the best outdoor
large site FC as we mentioned again and sustainability will
went to Ravens Down and Pure Cabins won the small
Business award in that section as.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, So there you go. Those are the winners at
field Days. Everyone was a oneer who was at field Days.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Spores on the country with a fco Q we owned.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's rare.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yes, so Trump's UFC. I think it's meant to be
starting midday our time. We need to see if we
can find it on our sky channel in here. Have
we got a sky channel in here? I think we
have nowadays, haven't we? Yes?
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Yeah, I don't know if it's live. Like I said,
the build up, I don't know if you've ever watched
UFC anyone out there, but the build up goes on
for ages, so I doubt that it started yet.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, it's an occasion celebrating two hundred and fifty years
two hundred and fiftieth birthday coming up on July the
fourth for the United States. Do you think the Founding
Father's ever envisaged Trump and UFC on the White House lawn?
I doubt it, but it's going to be entertaining anyhow.
I would to be honest, I haven't really watched UFC.
It's not my cup of tea, Michelle, but I would
(28:38):
sooner watch golf, and I only got to see a
wee bit of this this morning, and that was the
Canadian Open. Ryan Fox was defending his title, so a
touching tribute after an emotional maiden triumph on Golf's PGA
tour for Bud Corley, winning the Canadian Open by two shots.
Corleym is three years of competitive golf after a lie
(29:00):
life threatening car accident in twenty eighteen. He's dedicated the
win to his wife and also in sports news, Oliver
Welsh and Ben Taylor have edged close to to New
Zealand rowing greats at the latest World Cup regatta in Bulgaria.
The reigning world champions in the pair hit the finish
(29:20):
zero point five four of a second, shy of Hamish
Bond and Eric Murray's world lead time from the twenty
twelve London Olympics. So well done, those guys. That's sports
news for you. Up next, Ai and why she's skeptical
about it, especially in agriculture, Doctor Jaquelin Rowath.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Show me away, Tom Morell Lord we go well clan
over Morell as Ween Murray who waits for me sweet
(30:02):
like a baby.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
Mind.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Here is another person whose company I enjoyed at field Days.
As always, Doctor Jacquelin Rowiths did a wonderful job adjudicating
the Big Rural Industry leader's debate on Wednesday night at Claudland's.
We might come back to that one, Jacqueline. But like me,
you're a veteran of field days, what did you make
of it?
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Really good but constrained optimism because all the figures are
looking as though they're going in the right direction with
things like the innovation, the schedules and the milk payout.
But constraint because of the uncertainty in terms of the
super El Nino and what it will really mean for
(30:49):
your individual farm. And of course political are constrained about
the politics in terms of we've got regional counsels saying
different things about farming, and they might all might not
be merged. And the government is making all sorts of
good statements. In fact, all the parties are making good statements,
but what actually happens has yet to be seen. So
(31:11):
constrained optimism, but good news in terms of people wanting
our products and all the fears about tormented you know,
precision fermentation and then veganism, and then.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Oh no, the weight loss drugs.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
None of them have knocked off the desire for proper,
good protein food and the best protein comes from animals.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Well to the contrary, Jack Well, and I don't want
to correct you here, but the weight loss drugs are
great news for new Zealand.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
Yeah, well that's what I said. It's a sorry contrary
to the bad news that they were going to mean,
we did. Our products aren't needed anymore. Actually they needed more.
So all the naysays that said that that fermentation or
veganism or then the weight loss strugs will mean we
didn't have markets. Our markets are fine and we can
see that in the schedules in the milk Prime.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Well, I'm doing good stuff. Okay, I misheard rather than
you misspoke and quoting the great Man himself fake news.
We're getting news as we go to air that we've
got a deal. It looks like are supposedly going to
be signed in Switzerland on Friday. Look sentiment alone, this
is going to make a huge difference because but everything
(32:24):
has an oil component to it and a fertilizer component
to it. So this is good news for New Zealand.
Let's hope they can see the thing through.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Absolutely, we agree, and so we're all watching and listening
and trying to work out what actually is going to
be the truth. But yes, nobody wants this war, so
even Mann people don't want the war. Let's get back
on track, yep.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Okay, now, you've written, once again a wonderful column for us.
You do it fortnightly on our website, The Country, dot
co dot in Z. And one of the things you've
talked about is innovation and AI and you've tied that
into Field Days and here's I'm just going to read
one of your week sentences here and I thought this
was a good one. Some of the development showcased at
Field Days with a brainchild of somebody growing up on
(33:09):
a farm undertaking tertiary education and an allied subject engineering, mechanics, computing,
and no finer example of that than Craig, Peggott and
Holter right.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
So thinking about what might make the difference and then
being able to examine the unintended consequences because they know
actually things that work on farm, and discuss what might
happen with other rural professionals or farmers or scientists. And
that was always my concern. Something that seems like a
really good thing, best since life spread, actually has unintended
(33:45):
consequences that we didn't think about. And quite often that's
because the person operating them on or the person inventing
them didn't actually really understand what it would do on farm.
So there are all sorts of implications with the new
technologies that we're using.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Plus we're getting more and more agribusiness into more and
more secondary schools in particular.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
Yes, yes, and that's great. And the students of final
year students bringing their inventions along and talking to the
judges about what it's going to do on farm. It's
just utterly delightful and we want more of that, but
people who understand how it will work on farm as well.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I just want to pick up on another comment you
made about AI artificial intelligence. You talked about che GPT
and co pilot, all these artificial intelligence tools that are
right at our fingertips. You're questioning some of.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Them with sixty percent of the information coming through being incorrect,
and people not knowing enough about the questions they've asked
to understand that actually they've been given a poor pier
as an answer. Yes, I'm pretty worried, absolutely unworried. So
the importance of developing the questions, the astute questioning part
(34:58):
of that actually comes knowing what you're talking about. So
it is a big issue. And you know, I love teaching,
but gosh, it must be difficult marketing stuff at the moment.
You need to be able to know enough about what
you're talking about to think that can't be right when
the answer comes from AI or chat GPT. And that's
(35:19):
my concern. How do we enable students going through the
education system to understand that they still need to know
a lot about the facts, the realities of what they're
thinking for the future, in order to be able to
ground truth the information that comes from these new tools.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Doctor Jaquelin row with there. You can read all about
it on our website The Country dot co dot in Z.
I'm glad and I'm glad, Jacqueline, you've thought out from
a very chilly Thursday morning at Field Days. I'll catch
you in a couple of eggs.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Lovely, Thanks Jomies.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Thanks Jacqueline. She does a great job adjudicating that debate.
What a good night that was. Mike Green and his
team raised four hundred and twenty grand and count for
the Rural Support Trust. Look, he's the latest we've got
on our news wire about Trump and Iran. Straight up
a moose hesitancy about the lack of details surrounding a
(36:13):
newly confirmed US arranean peace steal. US President Donald Trump
says in agreement's been reached to cease all military operations
and allow free transit through the Strait of her Moos.
CNN reports will take effect Friday local time, but former
State Department Middle East negotiator, a guy by the name
(36:34):
of Aaron Miller, told CNN people that he needed to
see the fine print first. Surely this is that, surely
we can do a peace deal. Up next, we're going
to wrap the country on a Monday with Mondays leading
weather man Phil Duncan.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Stay through the day time. There's a special.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Weather on the country with Fiji where happiness comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
And for you.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
That day day, welcome back to the country, wrapping up
with Phil Duncan, weather watch with the weather. Happy birthday,
Donald Trump. It's been a good one for him, Phil.
He's got a peace deal in the Middle East, supposedly,
and he's got the UFC on the White House lawn here.
Speaker 11 (37:28):
It's a good day to be Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I'm not sure about that, but anyhow is it a
good day to be Phil Duncan. Are you a happy
weather man?
Speaker 11 (37:36):
Well, the weather is certainly not a lot of extreme
weather going on at the moment, and we've got basically
the headline this week is cold fronts versus high pressure.
We've got a lot of high pressure in the Tasman
Sea and east of New Zealand, but not over the
top of us. And to be honest with you, these
cold fronts that are moving up to New Zealand, one today,
(37:57):
another one later in the week, and with all this
high pressure around us, it's very much like in ol
Nino weather pattern. So we're already seeing that our Nino
patterns showing up at the New Zealand Tasman Sea area,
which is often defined by high pressure out at sea,
and we're on the edges of it, and we get
sort of these cold fronts that move in and we
definitely get a temperature drop, but it's not necessarily producing
(38:19):
huge amounts of brain all over the country.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Hey, fell I heard Hosking this morning back from his
two week holiday declaring super al Nino was fake news.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Well, well there we go. So look, there are two
ways of measuring al nino. There is the global one
where you look at the whole Pacific Ocean and that's
where you see this super al nino, this much stronger
than usual one being recorded there. The second way of
measuring it is how does that afflect affect New Zealand
and Australia. And that's a little harder to answer, especially
(38:50):
because we're quite a small country. One high pressure zone
or one big low can completely cover our weather for
three weeks, and so we're a little bit harder to work.
But as I say, we're already seeing this Alnino pattern forming.
I think since May we've seen a lot of high
pressure around the country. We're getting plenty of cold fronts,
but they're not necessarily delivering massive amounts of rain in
(39:12):
the east, although there is some rain today in Canterbury,
and we'll get some of that rain moving up into
the eastern side of the North Island through Wide and
Upper and Hawks Bay going into.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Tomawa, and those areas really need a winter recharge, don't they.
Because look, I'm to using field days as a barometer,
phil I can't remember and thirty years odd years agoing
the car parks being drier. So though Ikatto regions certainly
firm underfoot, but especially those eastern regions, they need to
get as much as they can before this super a
(39:42):
Nino might take place.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
Yeah, I mean, the concern with a strong al Nino
is that it can enhance our spring and our autumn
weather patterns, and so we get a lot of westerlies.
We might get more of that going into spring. But
there's a tropical load today leaving Fiji. If it wasn't
for the high pressure and the Tasman that would be
a rain maker for us. So that's what we're likely
to be looking at these loads that miss New Zealand's
(40:07):
fingers crossed that you know, we get one that sits
over us at some point over the next couple of
months and reverses how dry some places are getting. That's
all it would take.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Okay, fell Duncan there from where the watch Monday's Expert.
We're the man here on the Country. Good to be
back in the studio. Love my time at field Days. Anyhow,
we'll be back tomorrow. I'm not even sure who's on
the show tomorrow. I'll figure that out between now and
midday tomorrow. Catch you then.
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