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March 1, 2026 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Wayne Langford, Bruce Weir, Riley Kennedy, and Phil Duncan.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Farmlands delivering solutions for
strong productive crimes.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. Thanks to
Farmlands and I Suzu for making it possible. Kicking off
with a flock of seagulls and iran Rather ironic, isn't it.
At the moment we're going to talk to the Deputy
Prime Minister's taking time out of a cabinet meeting. I
think to have a yarn to us. He's also the
Act Party leader David Seymour. We've got Trump's bombings, Trump's tariffs,

(01:05):
degenerative dog owners in Northland and should we be selling
air New Zealand. Wayne Langford, President of Federated Farmers, good
news over the weekend. Key we Saver for farmers. You're
a boy. To access your key we saver to buy
a house, maybe even buy a farm. You'd need a
good key we saver and account. I would think to

(01:25):
buy a house. Also late last week Federated Farmers, I
ingest call it the pajama Party, the sleepover with labor.
But labor has made to be fair to labor a
concerted effort to try and engage the rural sector. So
they had kind of a whoy thing, if I can
call it that, with Federated Farmers. We'll see how that

(01:48):
goes and we'll get Wayne's take on a challenging world
trade environment. At the moment, we're just holding our breath
to see what really happens out of the Middle East.
Here's the good news story for today. We've got one
hundred thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars biggest prize we've
ever given away on this show to give away thanks
to our friends at Rabobank. Riley Kennedy, Senior Business Desk

(02:11):
Rural journalist, got a good story about apples Geehata. Culture's
on a high at the moment. Apple's going well. The
prospects look very good. Can we fruit going great? Guns
and Phil Duncan, resident weather man on a Monday for
with our autumn outlook, I can tell you where I'm
based in Dunedin. Yesterday and today it is freezing like

(02:34):
ten or twelve degrees. What happened to summer? We missed
it down here. Hopefully we can get a better autumn
forecast from Phil Duncan Michelle's back after his success at
Challenge Wanaka. She'll have rural news and we'll have sports
news for you as well. How good was that New
Zealand golf open? David Seymour to kick off the country,

(03:11):
Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour kicking off the country. We live,
David in a troubled world. We've got to talk today
about Trump's bombing, Trump's tariffs, degenerate dog owners in Northland
and selling air New Zealand to sell or not to sell.
Let's start with what's happening in the Middle East. What's
the latest intel you've got and the beehive.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, we're getting the same information as most people. It's
happening so quickly that there's no real forward intelligence about
it other than there's obviously a debate to be had
about is it legitimate to attack another country because the
leader is a murderer's dictator who murders their own people

(03:55):
and sponsors terrorism all over the world, or should there
be as Helen Clark would argue, restraints in the rule
of law regardless of what we think about the person
in that country. I think it's a reasonable debate, and
yet I think in this case, the clincher is that

(04:16):
this guy clearly didn't have the support of his own people.
In fact, he was murdering them by the tens of
thousands in order to stay in power.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
David Seymour, I don't think softly softly as Helen Clark
would like us to go, works with tyrannical regimes such
as Iran's.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I respect her for raising the question, though. If
we've decided that if someone who's particularly bad, then it's
okay to just go in all guns blazing, then the
question is who decides when that threshold's been reached, and
why can't a China or a Russia make the same
judgment according to their values. So I don't dismiss or

(04:57):
ignore what the likes of Clark is saying. But in
this particular case, you've got somebody who is just so
clearly evil and has had so many other attempts to
talk them around. I think they did the right thing.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let's move from Trump's bombing to Trump's tariffs. Effectively, have
we had a bit of a one out of this?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, Well, it looks like the net effect of all
of these machinations is that we pay ten instead of fifteen.
That can only be good for New Zealand, where a
trade in nation US is an enormous market obviously, and
it looks like it's just got a little bit more
open for us. So let's take that win and meanwhile
keep doing what we do so well. I always say
that New Zealand farmer's biggest free market community on Earth.

(05:42):
They're very very good at knowing their market, adapting their
product and selling into it. So combined with that strength,
this has got to be good news.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm hearing sort of mixed messages on this one. Beef
and key we fruit still at zero percent tariff, no rated.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
You'd have to give me a chance to look that up.
I don't have the figures in front of the EVO
as I understand it. This is a net one for
us down from fifteen.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
All right, well I'll check that one with Todd McLay
now degenerate dog owners in Northland, David Seymour, this is
something that you and Winston agree on, and Shane j
Ownes for that matter, and you and Winston don't always agree.
What can we do about it? Because that is that's
tragic what's happening.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, to start with a little bit of honesty. There's
a whole lot of dog owners out there who are
very responsible, love their dogs, and are causing no harm
to anyone. As I said in my speech on regulation
last week, the worst thing we could do is an
mediate reaction that puts more cost onto legitimate dog owners.
What we need to do is recognize that this is

(06:45):
largely an issue with gangs and their dogs in certain
regions of the country, and the government's going to be
making announcements very soon about how we're going to take
that on, so justice will be done here.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm pleased to hear that you don't agree with Winston
on Air New Zealand. Do you appear to be swimming
against the tide on that one.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, sometimes people got to choose between emotion and logic.
At the moment, we own an airline costs US about
fifty million dollars a year. That's the money we pay
in interest on the debt that we have taken out
because we want to own it, and people have to decide.

(07:26):
You like having a national carrier, you feel that somehow
it's a strategic asset, although no one ever sees what
the strategy is. When they talk about strategic assets, So
you like all that, is it worth fifty million plus
the sixty that they just lost? And is it worth
the bailout that we had to give them? Even as
an owner doesn't seem to make any difference. So when

(07:48):
people say that they want to own it, that's fine.
But I just say to people, have a look at
the costs and have a look at New Zealand's trajectory
and ask yourself. You're worth it?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
You think?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But if we flagged off the Family Silverware, wouldn't we
be open to foreign exploitation?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
You get into these really sort of tire emotional for
the tropes. So listen to what you just said that
the family Silverware and foreign exploitation. Talk me through how
that actually works.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Can the government actually mandate cheaper airfairs? Because you are
the majority owner of their New Zealand, you own fifty
one percent of it, why don't you tell Air New
Zealand to make regional airfairs cheaper?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, no, we can't, and this is part of my point.
So again I just say, what do you think you're
getting for this? It's it's not cheaper airfairs. It's not
better service. It's not service for regional New Zealand that's
actually been picked up by a lot of fucking upstarts,
the likes of origin ear Ear Chatham's Great Barrier Air.
They are serving the likes of Kaitar and Bay of

(08:53):
Islands as well as the New Zealand, including a lot
of routs in New zeal have abandoned. So you know,
I just sparing all the rhetoric about silverware and exploitation
and foreigners just get down to brass text and say, okay,
it's costing US one hundred million bucks to taxpayers to
own the thing this year and interest and losses. We
had to bail it out well half a billion a

(09:15):
billion during COVID and what are we actually getting? You know,
That's that's the challenge I put out there.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
See I might have to buy a CORW lounge pass
for Jetstar.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well you never know. You might be better off or
you might not. But that's if you pay your money,
you take your choice, right.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister, thank you very much for
your time on the country. Appreciate it, pleasure. Thank you, David.
At twenty, no, it's not at seventeen. After twelve, it's
a Monday. Right up next Wayne Langford, the president of
Federated Farmers, but for how much longer jury's out on

(09:54):
whether he's going to continue on as well anyhow, big
one for Federated Farmers to be fair to the feeds
they've been driving this key WE Savor for farmers, allowing
young farmers to use their key we Saver accounts to
buy a house or a farm. Because we'll explain the
mechanics around that one. How did the gathering go? With

(10:17):
labor a late last week and a challenging world environment,
We're all waiting with bated breath to see what's happening there.
The good news story today is we've got one hundred
thousand dollars to give away. We'll tell you more about
that with Bruce Ware from Rabobang. Riley Kennedy at a
business Desk, one of the best young rural journos in
the country. He's doing really good work at business desk

(10:39):
and he's got a good story about apples there today.
And Phil Duncan we're going to see if we can.
I'm looking out my window in Toneeden at the moment
and it looks miserable out there. It's about ten degrees
if it's lucky the spitzer rain hail pouting on the
roof last night. What happened to summer? Well, it's gone.
Let's hope we can do better or autumn. We'll ask

(11:01):
Phil Duncan about that one. Wayne Langford next, Welcome back

(11:21):
to the country. Twenty two after twelve, Wayne Langford, president
of Federated Farmers, joins us. Wayne, A good win for
FEDS and I know you led the charge on this
one on or key we Saver for young farmers. Talk
us through the mechanics of this one.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, thanks, Jamy. Good to be here. A really good, good,
solid win this one. But not just for feeds obviously,
for not only the young farmers, but just farmers in general.
Wanting to use the key WE Saver to buy to
buy our house off farm. Obviously, you know in a
lot of cases, particularly in sheer farming, the service service

(12:00):
tendancy there that that you need to live in the
house on farm, and so you don't have the ability
then to use key we Saved it to buy that house.
And so that's what this has opened up now that
should someone want to and they don't have to, but
should they want to buy a farm or a house
off farm that they can now use their key. We
saving to do it. What's also called about this is
it's not not just affected farmers. You know, we've got

(12:22):
those in the military. We've got some teachers and doctors
that are also in service tendencies as well, and they
are going to be able to use this as well.
So it's a pretty good and solid win for everyone.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, common sense provailed. Why did we not have those
rules in place in the first place?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
You know, I mean we are keeping pretty you know, key,
we saving pretty tight in the country. You notice it
is there for a reason, and so it should be
and you'll be aware we did, you know, we did
push for herds as well and flocks, and we you know,
we got pushed back on that one to say, hey, no,
we want to protect this more for full retirement and
then for what it's their force. So we understand that.

(12:58):
The other part of this is you can new key.
We have it to invest in your in your first
farm as well, and particularly sorry one that you've got
to kind of own and operate and obviously the majority
shareholder and as well, and so and again the reason
for that is that your house is on your farm
and and why wouldn't you be able to.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Okay, Well, so just which begs the question if you
wanted to buy a bear land block without a house
on it, I'm assuming you couldn't do it with your
key we save.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, are you getting into the Yale.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's a hard hitting question. Why and you're on top
of your portfolio, you'll know the answer.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
It is a great one. I would have to follow
that one up, Jamie, to be fair, and there will
be some there will be some criteria around what they're
talking here, and we'll dig into the rules of what
came out to see what can cover that one off you.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, that's why you pay your Federated Farmers sub to
get stuff advocacy like this done for you.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's right, And certainly, if you've got any questions on it,
don't don't be afraid to call eight hundred Farming because
that's where you get the answers on it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Sure, are you going to be in the job as
president of Federated Farmers beyond the beyond the end of
this term, which I think finishes at the end of June.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Cracky, You're more worried about what I'm doing at the
end of the year than what.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
My well, I'm running you, I'm running your campaign.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, that's right. So so there is there is some
options there there at the moment and November the National
Council put it forward a vote to say there is
an option that I can stay on for another year
as Feed's president. And so that is up for the
membership to and then the National Council to decide. It
is an option at the stage, and I'll have to

(14:38):
go through the process and an election process to get there.
So to to your to your question, not yet, I
don't actually know because we've got we've got to work
through that process and see what that looks like. And
but it's but it is it is good that the
option has been put forward and we'll look to see
what's best for FEDS after after the During a GM,
you and.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I joke about the pajama party with Life, you and
Joe Luxton, and she takes it in good humor. But
it is good to be fair that Labor under Chippy
and Joe Luxton, and she's been very conciliatory make an
effort to engage with the rural sector. And that's what
the one that I call it the sleep over, the
love and whatever you want to call it. Wayne with

(15:18):
labor last week a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
What came out of it? There's certainly no ag policy
came out of it.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, I've talked a bit of a stink from a
bit of stink from a US armers over it. And
if I can just share what where it has come
from and where it's got to, because that's what's really important.
When we started three years ago, we met at Mystery
Creek and I remember getting to the morning tea at
ten thirty and we had to go to the back
room and change the agenda because the level at which

(15:46):
we'd brought the discussion was nowhere near where that of
the Labor party and the attendees were sitting. You know,
we had to dumb it right back down to some
kind of basic agricultural principles. If I compare that to
three years down the track, we've got Chris Hopkins who
can stand in front of both the crowd last week
but also my National Council late last year, and he

(16:09):
can talk for forty five minutes on agricultural policy with
no notes, with no one standing with side him. You know,
just just just straight from the hip and also take
questions from the floor and answer them pretty well.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
That's that's a credit to what this forum is all about.
What we wanted to do was to make sure that
we had the relationships on both sides of the House,
and not only the relationships, but making sure that they
are informed of the agricultural issues and what was actually
happening out on farm and going on, so that they
could make some decisions around that.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Could Damien not stand up for forty five minutes and
do that.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
I think he could, But that was part of the
issue was I think he was entrusted with the whole
voice of the agricultural side of labor, and to be fair,
I wonder whether he was left to it a little bit.
And so what we've taken out of it now is
that now we've got them all covering, covering across the
topics and understanding, you know, what what's happening, and hopefully

(17:06):
we get some solid ones and whenever we're in need it.
Of course that doesn't it's not just for when when
they're in government. It's also you know, an opposition. If
we've got a strong opposition, then then we can also
use it to get the best results for farmers as well.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Just imagine how well labor would go if they could
find a candidate I don't know, an electric like a
West Coast Tasman with real egg creed.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Imagine I imagined.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Have you imagined that one?

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Here's a hot take for you, Jamian. I can confirm
on today's call that I will not be standing on
the West Coast. I've had a number of my presidents
ring me and say what's going on? And you got
to tell You've got to tell them, well, I'm shooting
the room or down now, I won't be standing for
labor on the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
What about standing for national on New Zealand? First on
the West Coast.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I've got all kinds of offers coming in.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I know you have.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
It's a busy time of year, but my, like I
say Mikey, focus is really on feeds. We've got a
new CEO, we've still got we've still got some ones
to get of the line. We're balling our way through
the RMA changes at the moment. I've got to keep
my focus on that.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Fair enough, you'll be aware just like I am, Wayne,
because we're in the NOA we but of high profile
names that will come out in West Coast Tasman in
the next week or so.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, I think it's great we've created there's some good
solid candidates and I'm hearing a few from New Zealand
Versts as well, and so yeah, I mean that's what
democracy is all about, and hopefully we've got some good
leaders standing up. So it's a good place to be.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hey, Wayne, to you and your team at Federated Farmers,
well done. That's a good win for young kiw We farmers,
over key we Saver. Keep up the good work.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Awesome teeressda' reprecid it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
There we go, Wayne length for doing a good job
for Federated Farmers. Be interesting to see whether he stays
on for another term. Who is the year a parent
at Federated Farmers. Up next, here's the good news story
for the day. We've got one hundred grand to give away,
most we've ever ever given away on this show. When

(18:59):
I say we it's mainly Rabobank, but you're going to
love the tenth edition of their Good Deeds competition.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Bruce Ware up next.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
On a day where bad news is dominating, we don't
know what the hell's going to happen in the Middle East.
Here's a great news story for you here at home
in God's Own Now. Over the years on the Country
the Artist formerly known as the Farming Show, we've given
away some great prizes. G about ten or twelve years ago.
We gave away a vw AM moroc Ute forty six

(19:37):
thousand dollar trip to the Rugby World Cup in twenty fifteen.
That was one of the great prizes. But never have
we got to six figures until today. We are giving
away one hundred thousand dollars. And when I say we,
it's actually Rabobank, but we're involved in there and we're
going to take some of the credit bruce Ware GMF
Country Banking for Rabobank. To celebrate your tenth edition of

(20:00):
your annual Good Deeds competition, you guys at Rabobank are
giving away one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Good afternoon, you're good after doing Jamie, that's right. To
celebrate our tenth edition, we've decided to give away one
hundred thousand dollars to ten worthy community hubs. Community hums
that either rural community halls, rural schools, rural clubrooms, or
mude that just need a little bit of tell see. Also,

(20:28):
it will be one grand winner that will also receive
one day's labor from the team at Rabi Bank and
also the country. So I've seen the way that our
team works, Jamie, so that's got to be worth at
least another team.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, Rabobank are very good. Yeah, staff turn up in
great numbers. We're pretty useless. We turn up with one
and in my case it's more an administration role than
getting on the end of the spade. But as I've
said to you before, Bruce, if there's a golf course
handy or planting native trees is involved, count me in
on that one. You've only actually got nine of these

(21:02):
to give away because I've already put in an entry
because they've opened today for the Riversdale Rugby clubs. So
there's nine to give away or do I have to
bribe someone else?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, thankfully I'm not part of the judging panel. We've
given that task to our cap client council chairs. They
will make that hard decision because last year we had
over five hundred entries to our community hall campaign.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
What sort of criteria are you putting around this, Bruce?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh look, we're looking for anything that's going to enhance
that community hub that's going to bring communities together to thrive.
So make sure in the entry you explain what the
hub does, what it's all about, and how the improvements
are going to make it more attractive for our communities

(21:49):
to come together and thrive.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
So bruce Ware is with this GM of Country Banking
for Rabobank playing Santa Claus today. If you want to
know or find out how you can get your hands
on some of that one hundred thousand dollars for the
tenth edition of the Rabobank Good Deeds Competition, what you
need to do is enter at the Rabobank website rabobank

(22:11):
dot co dot nz ford slash good Dash Deeds. Easier
than that, just text good to five double nine and
we'll send you a link to enter. Bruce The entries
are open as we speak. I've got, as I said,
one for the Riversdale Rugby Club and they close close
of play on March the thirty first, so you've got

(22:31):
a month to get your entry together. And I guess
the better job you make of the entry, the better
chance you've got to winning some of that cash.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Absolutely, so don't forget to detail how the buildings currently use,
what you're going to do with the funds and labor,
and how the proposed improvements will help increase the facilities usage.
How can you bring the communities together?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, we still have a world of March the thirty first,
or while we have blown each other up, Bruce.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, certainly of all the time went out there at
the moment, isn't it, Jamie. So look, I think we're
well positioned where we are.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I think the.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Economy is in good space. So it just keeps going
back to what we always talk about. Just keep your
business resilient, keep focused on producing good food and looking
after your business. And I think we'll come through this.
We've come through larger challenges before.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, let's hope it's short and sharp. It's not very pleasant. Okay,
there we go, Bruce, were to you and all the team,
Todd Charteris and all the team at Rabobank. You've been
wonderful supporters of this. This is your tenth year. We
love giving away your cash.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, thanks Jamie.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Those entries and we look forward to reading them and
good luck to our client council chairs. First selecting the
appropriate winness.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, who would want to judge that one. You've got
to be into onen. This is one hundred thousand dollars
ten lots of ten thousand dollars. So all you need
to do the is this way to get an entry
is just text good to five double O nine. That's
our text line here on the con and will send
you back automatically the direct link to enter. So you've

(24:05):
got to be in to win. The Rabobank Good Deeds
Competition underway now closes on the thirty first of March.
One hundred thousand dollars up for grabs. Up next, Michelle's
back rural news, sports news before the end of the hour,
Riley Kennedy on apples and Phil Duncan on the weather,

(24:33):
Welcome back to the country. Very shortly the latest and
rural news and sports news. This autumn is shaping up
to be a strong one for farmers, with warm soil
temperatures and plenty of moisture are driving excellent pasture growth
right across the country. It's the perfect time to think
about nutrient applications that not only finish the season well,

(24:54):
but also set up farms for winter and next year's production.
The country's Hamish Mackay talks with Katie aitkenhead Science Extension
leader at Balance on the Country Podcast on how farmers
can set up well for autumn with key nutrients to
finish the season strong and how to manage nutrient loss
split applications. Choosing lower risk nutrient forms and timing around

(25:19):
rainfall can protect both your investment and the environment. Plan early,
talk to your Balance agri nutrients specialist and make the
most of this autumn opportunity. Keep an air out for
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Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, she's back after swining off for a week and
didn't take Michelle. How come you have a week in
two days a holiday when you were only racing in
one event?

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Oh you know, I need recovery time. Also, I picked
up a new dog, so I've got a new dog.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Have you got a rescue dog?

Speaker 6 (26:07):
I have? I've got a greyhound, another greyhound.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's hi.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Karen macnaughty if you're listening, well, tell.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Us texting Karen this morning to see if he's going
to be at Golden Shares.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
He is.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm hoping to catch up with Chippy at Golden Shares. Anyhow, Hey,
well done and challenged Wanaka. You weren't like Rowena who
won a gold medal at the what were the games
that she was in the Master's game, the Masters Games.
She won a gold medal because she was the only
one in her category.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Oh, I've been on that podium in that kind of
situation before, Jane, But no, this time there was definitely
more than three of us in the Event's.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Got on you? You've got a bronze or a silver.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Bronze, bronze, he just missed out on silver.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, but you were to be fair. How many women
were in it?

Speaker 6 (26:52):
I think overall women, I was fourth and I think
there's twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It's a really good effort. Well done. I'm glad that someone.
I'm glad that someone the country staff can still run.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Quickly well running involved in that event.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
But oh, well, I thought you were challenging Wanaka.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
I did aquabike, so I did the one point nine
k swim and ninety k bike.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
All right, why didn't you do the running?

Speaker 6 (27:13):
I haven't been able to get back into an injury
injury prone at the moment, but it.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Might be the fastest runner in the country.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
I know you and I should it in a team, Jamie.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I can't swim. I've played the rural news sting. What
do you got for me?

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay? So interesting. We had a text in about this.
In South Africa, there's been an outbreak of foot and mouth,
so I did a little bit of investigation and there
has been It's really interesting. Actually, it's funny what you
miss out on when you've been away. But apparently farmers
are really worried about their livelihood over there at the moment,
and of course biosecurity stuff over there doesn't always work
that well. And you and I were just discussing it off.

(27:48):
Yet's usually because the borders are too close together. The
UK has the same issue with shutting down things like that.
But New Zealand hasn't had a foot and mouth issue
since two thousand and five and we've never had an outbreak,
so hopefully it stays out.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, fingers crossed on that one. If we do get one,
it's last one to leave turn the lights off. But
we are lucky. We're an island nation, much easier to
close our borders down than others. There's rural news.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sports on the country with AFCO one hundred percent key,
we owned and trusted it.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
That's rare.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Shane Van Gisbergen's push for a record equalling NASCAR victory
continues at the latest event of the season in Texas.
His charged through the field has him fifth after seventy
four of ninety five laps, having started down in thirteenth.
We need to google that and see where he is
because that's the twelve thirty headlines. He'll be a bit

(28:38):
more further advanced than that one. A promising start to
the IndyCar season for Scott McLaughlin. He's finished second in
the opening race at Saint Petersburg, Florida. That's as opposed
to Saint Petersburg and Russia, who would want to be
there at the moment twelve seconds, but behind defending series
champion Alex Palau and the Black Cats are hopeful Matt

(29:00):
Henry will be back with them in India for their
semifinal at Cricket's T twenty World Cup. He's returned home
for the birth of a second child, and I think
that might be Thursday morning, Wednesday night, Thursday morning our time.
I'll check that one as well. So poor old Matt
he's going to zoom home, have the birth hopefully of
a second child, and get back because we need him

(29:20):
for our semi final and that is against the Foot
and Mouth Nation South Africa. Have you had a look
to see where he's at.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
I need to try and find it. I can't dig
that up.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
We will try and find that up. Next apples with
Riley Kennedy. Okay, shortly the country's best Where the man
fell Duncan on a Monday, here's the country's top ag journalist.
Can I call him that? He does really good work

(29:49):
on business desk? You should subscribe if you don't. Always
comes out with good primary sector stories every day. He's prolific.
And his output. How about that for flattery? Kennedy?

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Yeah, I'm not sure. Some days my output feels productice.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, I reckon. I've seen you on a Friday afternoon
up at enz Me Mothership. You're skulking off to the
pub at about two o'clock.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Ah, well, my boss probably listening. So I'm just going
to say before I say something.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Okay, fair enough, you've written you've written a good story
about about Apple's and how positive the future is there.
But just before we do that, let's talk about key
we for it, because I think you were at the
Zesbury conference last week and they came out with some
wonderful aspirations but some really good numbers.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
It was a pretty impressive conference, I think to some
supply comments in the past, but there was nothing that
compared to Like listen, not very often chief executive will
walk out on stage to the song rise up by
six sixty and get a hold of clapping. But Vesper
sort of announced its strategy to ten years to twenty
thirty five, and their ambition has become the world's healthiest

(31:04):
fruit brand, which I sort of looked at initially and
I think it's kind of weird, but it sort of means,
you know, not just the nutrition that it's providing to
its consumers, but also running a healthy business, having a
healthy supply chain. Zespre's growth story in the past few
years have been pretty impressive, and they reckon under the
strategy they can double their revenue or sales revenue by

(31:26):
twenty thirty five, if not triple it, and the returns
to growers will double over that time. Of course, the
proof will be an its execution. But if they can
grow at the pace they've been growing it in the
last few years, I'm sure they'll fly through those targets.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Mind you, they're up against apples, and there's no such
the saying as a key we fruit today keeps the
doctor away.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
I thought it was an apple a day doctor.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, well that was my point exactly. Maybe apples can
claim to be the healthiest of the fruits. But anyhow,
they're both going good and the apple growers need up,
mind you, ken we fruit's been pretty good for the
past few seasons. The apple growers have had a harder
time obviously, especially those guys on Hawk's Bay around Gabrielle.
But it's looking really positive.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Yeah it is, and as we know, Gabrielle sort of
returns there for the TNG Global. They report of the
results on Friday, and you're really starting to see the
sort of get past Gabrielle with volumes up and they're
heading for quite a good harvest. But the TG reckon
that the global market premium branded apples, so these are

(32:34):
not the apples we can buy at walworst, but the
really premium branded ones can grow to fifty two point
seven billion in the next ten years. And that's a
growth rate was seven point six percent of the top
of their head. But they reckon that their own portfolio,
which includes the end brand, which is some seriously nice
apples if you're an Apple fan, and the Jazz brand,

(32:55):
can exceed that with a growth rate of eight point
four percent, and they reckon they're entire apples must will
grow by eighty percent and in ten years. And the
interesting part about this actually majority of their apples are
actually growing off shore. It comes from zel and the
rest of it comes from offshore, which means that they

(33:15):
have three hundred and sixty five days apply, so they're
not continuously competing in a retail store and somewhere for
shelf space when the New Zealand season runs out, and
I think that's really starting to show in their results.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well it's a bit like what Zesper is trying to
do in the Northern Hemisphere exactly.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
The thing is that in any produce, if you lose
retail space, you have to fight to get it back,
and then you have to compete with other fruit brands,
so that that is really starting to pay dividends for TG.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, hey, Riley, I've got to go because I've got
to go and talk to Monday's best weather man after
talking to Monday's best Business Desk Rural Journey. You are
doing a good job. You've done. You've come a long
way from your humble days at the Otago Daily Times.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
And humble days they were. But thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
There we go doing a great job. And well, we
subscribe to Business Desk. I think we get a free one,
don't we do? We get a free one. Actually, I'm
not properly logged in. I only get the headlines every morning,
but I always get the story of the primary sector,
story of the day, which Riley does, and he does
a great job on that one. So while worth subscribing to.

(34:20):
We're going to take a break on the other side
of it. We'll see what happened to summer and what
might happen to autumn. Welcome back to the country. Just

(34:43):
getting the self organized. Trying to update Shane Van Gisbergen's
push for a record equalling NASCAR victory. Apparently this is
the latest we've got. He's in second place through eighty
four of ninety five laps. What he's still second, says
Michelle Okay. Oh, yes, Phil Duncan.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Weather on the country with Fiji where happiness comes naturally.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Tell you what, Pel Duncan. I wouldn't mind being in
Fiji today. It would be a bit warmer than Dunedin.
It is freezing.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
If we had good to be with you, if we
had this set up in the middle of winter, we'd
be talking about snow to sea level today in the
South Island. But because we're still in end of summer,
early autumn, kind of from a weather point of view,
it's it's just bringing in some cold air, especially along
the eastern side of New Zealand. It'll be into the
North Island tonight. Further into the North Island it comes

(35:41):
up to about Waikato, a Bay of plenty, the coldest
of this airflow tonight. That means tomorrow morning there might
be some frost around inland parts of the South Island,
and as we go through the week, an enormous area
of high pressure moving over us, and that we'll actually
drag in a warmer airflow by the time we get
to Friday and going into hopefully the weekend, but certainly

(36:01):
by Friday things will be warming up.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's well, I'm pleased to hear that, especially for some
of the arable farmers who are trying to get crops
off in the areas like Canterbury. Anyhow, we wish them
all the best. But going a bit more long range,
I've got like a minute in a bit autumn forecast.
What can we look forward to Because we're day two
of autumn.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
So our March Climate Watch YouTube video will be out
this afternoon. We're just finishing it off now and basically
what what I'm saying in the headline is it's a
fairly orderly March. We've had a very unsettled January and
February and December. In fact, this month is looking very textbook.
By that, I mean a lot of high pressure coming
out of Australia. So I think most places, other than

(36:41):
maybe Southwestland, most places are going to have fairly dry
weather coming through the next couple of weeks. The storms
are down near Antarctica where they should be the strong
westerlies of autumn south of New Zealand, but maybe just
starting to brush the lower South Island at times, and
the tropical storms are up in the Tropic maybe affecting
Australia a bit more so. So it's a fairly orderly

(37:03):
month and I'm seeing a lot of places, especially around
the North Island, leaning much drier over the next couple
of weeks than they've been over previous.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Week well, and that might be welcome by the likes
of the apple growers getting the last of the apples
off and of course the key we fruit growers trying
to get the key with fruit off and the next
month or so.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
That's good news, balancing at that's what I like to
call it.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
All right. That's as long as we don't get blown
up between now and the end of autumn. That will
wait to see what happens with your mate Trump. Phel
Duncan there from weather Watch. That's us done and dusted
for tomorrow. For tomorrow Tomorrow, I've got Joe Luxton on
and new talent, new talents from the UK. More about

(37:44):
that tomorrow. Have a good Monday.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
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