July 15, 2026 • 34 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Shane McManaway, Peter Newbold, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catchle the latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast
with Jamie McKay thanks to a Susu Get demo deals
on the tough Dmax today.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Can you guess.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Where I'm calling from?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Las Vegas, Filson? I know it's part deal. It's just
see a long love.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yes, that's where I'm calling from the Las Vegas Hilton.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I just want to say.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
That I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm well, good afternoon, New Zealand, but laatedly I'm Jamie McKay.
This is The Country, brought to you by Isuzu and Farmlands,
just for the English football team home on a Monday
instead of playing a World Cup final on a Monday. Look,
(01:20):
sorry for the technical problems, not of our making. Someone's
pushed a button somewhere up north and you've got a
bit of the other guys, but you've got us now,
so anyhow, Look, we're going to do our best to
get through the rest of the show between now and
one o'clock. Really keen to talk about the bird flu.
(01:41):
In fact, their first guest, Winston Peters, will get his
take on that, and someone who does know a lot
about the bird flu is our Australian correspondent Chris Russell
because I think they've basically discovered it in three states
in the US, so we're going to update that situation
for you. Winston Peters also going to hopefully head to
(02:01):
Kaikoura to catch up with Shane mcmanaway. He is a
wire rapper farmer, well known, high profile bloke in New
Zealand agriculture. They got hammered and the wire rapper, but
not as bad as Kakurra. He's down there on a
digger trying to help out his son Adam on the
dairy farm. So I'll update the flooding for you if
I can find him. And who knows what's going to
(02:22):
happen today, We'll have a yarn to Peter Newbold, also
GM of PGG rights in real estate and will tell
you how much your farm's worth. Might even ask him
to put on his PGG rights and livestock hat and
talk about the threat. A lot of noise about it
isn't the super al Nino. But kicking off the show
with Winston and the bird flew and celebrity candidates and
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the Indian FDA on a Monday around kicking off the
(03:07):
country today, New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters. Let's start
with the serious stuff and then we'll have an argument
a wee bit later on about the Indian FTA, as
we do every time we chat. Talk to me, mister
Peters about the bird flu. How worried should we be?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Well, I don't think we should get over worried at
this point in time. I mean this one that has
been found probably maybe more it's it's possibly to the
good life of this country. That's important. So let's be
very careful here. But let's not overreact and must do
judgment too soon.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
So we're not facing another pandemic.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I don't believe so well, let's hope.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So anyhow, Okay, celebrity candidates, we've already heard about Tyane Randall,
Stu Nash. I think Stu would call himself a celebrity.
And now Michael Laws. But have you been outgunned by
the ACT Party bringing in Paul Henry who was quite
critical of you, if you don't mind me saying so.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Well as the amateur Hour. That's why the fact of
the matter is that at seven pm previous night, the
ACT Party found out that their former president was up
against Upling in the court again for Peterphilia charges. So
that's why they dropped this one. And at this point
in time, the constance the coensence is echoing around the country.
(04:28):
For goodness sake, there's no surprises here. But as Paul
Henry's going to find out, this is a difficult job politics,
and he's going to have to.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Learn someone who has also been getting stuck into you,
as Andrew A. Vance. I spent a couple of weeks
in Australia, but it was a big story while I
was over there. She got stuck into you, and you
got stuck into her in return. And then there was
a column from someone this columns everywhere these days about
how an eighty year old is very cleverly using social media.
(04:58):
Did you take that as a compliment?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And yes I did, And I took them so long
to learn that in the first place. But Andrew advanced.
I took it to the Press Council and won because
she made a whole lot of statements were false about
the Qui rail and the press counselor awread with me.
But before that, you recall I've accused her and Peter
Dunn of releasing state secrets. Remember that, and Peter Dunn
lost his job, so she hates me, and I understand why.
(05:21):
But she used to work for News of the World.
Who the News of the World. Well they had they
were shut down for lying to the British media. That's
how bad they were. So I'm not taking your lessons
from Andrew Advance. She's better than twisted and I've proven it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Are you worried about the Opportunity Party getting past that
five percent threshold? I know you say bug of the polls,
a bit like your old mate Jim Bolger, But the
reality is if they do manage to get past five percent,
and I'm not suggesting they will, but if they did,
that would mean a change of government.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
First of all, look, the first thing I know about opportunity,
there's opportunity costs, and in this case, a whole lot
of consultants and consultants will send you an invoice. It's
all the hype of the mainstream media. They're trying to
prop them up, give them all the coverage possible, and
so are you. When do they have a last public meeting?
Do you see it? Did you know what they said?
Without their manifesto? They reach what they said. They haven't
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told you anything about what they mean. But there are
a bunch of left wingers. Sadly they'll send everybody over
sixty five destitute because they're going to have land tax
and nobody over sixty five bill pay it. So when
they find out about this, I'm not concerned about them, No,
I'm worried about one pay in the past for New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
First universal income in a land tax that would be
crippling for many in the productive sector, and I particularly
look at farming.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, and you and your listeners. So I'll tell you
what are you.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
New Zealand First conservants?
Speaker 6 (06:45):
If you won't be saved yet, you've got to write
God you task. You took a long time to get
to there, but at last five of you understood you've
got one chance to be down on the farm. And
that father in chance is Zuan First.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
How did you take to be called a clown by
a former minister John Key?
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Well, look, Paul, John, I mean you know, do you remember
there's the crash in Wall Street, of the crash and
that two thousand and eight when all these companies went down.
In the fourth company to go down was Merrill Lynch
got bailed out by the American taxpayers. Well, John Key's
background was with them, and I said at the time,
and I don't come here and tell us what you know.
This is a fraud and pudge and company you worked
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for and they've been found out. And the second thing
about John Key, when he talks about it, there my
quest to John Keys, Mister Key, if this deal is
so good, how come by twenty fifty you learnly grow
our GDP by one tenth of one percent? Explain that
to me if you weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Where did you get that number from? Have you just
pulled that out of your backside?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
No? Now that's the treasure is forecast. I didn't pull
it out of there. You should know this. I am
astonisher here, I am here. I am on this date,
all the way in the July the sixteenth, twenty twenty sixth,
after all these months of December last year they were
talking about signing up to it, and you've found out
for the first time what it's value to our economy is.
(08:04):
I am deeply shocked. And the people who suffered the most,
of the farmers, because they're nothing having your dairy products
down there? Are they? And when it comes to the
other products, when it comes to beef well or Mutton
have a look at the US. That's the UK and
other countries sales to them, or do I say the
afet and sells them and tell you why he's so confident.
I'm astonished that you've learned to see and now that
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the GDP growth will be only one ten to one
percent by twenty fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I buy that
I spoke to and I know your good mates with them,
you were very good mates with his father.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yes, you say not for you buy that. I've been
saying that for days now. Has anybody refuted me? No?
The only person refuted me as you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, I don't know the numbers. I don't know if
you've just made them up and trying to pull the
wall over my eyes.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And I know they might have made them up there
to be refuted me, wouldn't they internal.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Okay, let me go back to Todd McLay and I know
the mat yours and you get along well with them.
This is what he had to say yesterday. It's only
a twenty second club on the twenty billion dollar investment.
Listen to this, the twenty billion dollar investment. Is it
an investment or is it an aspirational target.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
It's an aspirational target to promote investment. And the government
has taken our commitment to promote investment, and it is
very clear in the legislation it has written down.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Lawyers on both sides.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Scrutinized that our responsibility is to promote it is not
to invest.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So what do you say about that? What do you
say an answer to that?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Stop playing with words? And the reality is that I've
been saying for a long time, what this thirty three
billion USIC in New Zealand dollars will cost us into
the Union economy? And here comes the money. He's coming
over He's got a high commission here, that's seen all
the controversy. He gets over here, and he still said
what he said because that's the way they've read it.
(09:53):
And then it cost us if we don't match up
with what we promised. That's the reality.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But why wouldn't Why wouldn't we, Winston Peters, invest in
an economy that is a marketplace of one point four
billion and growing daily.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
We would because we're not stupid. We should be investing
in a country called New Zealand, not a country called
India for goodness? Well, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Men?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
What I can see why you're better than national parks
that global.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You don't know who I vote for. I could be
a New Zealand first voter if it wasn't for your
stance on the FDA. Also, Todd McLay had this to
say about immigration. Hey, what about the unfettered migration that
he's banging on about selection year?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He's absolutely completely one thousand percent wrong. One thousand, six
hundred and seventy skilled workers per year could come to
New Zealand, They're only allowed to stay for three years
and they have to go home. They can't reapply on
that same visa for another three years.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So there you go. You're a one thousand percent wrong.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Now what's wrong with that is? Who have I'm wrong?
And why is Moody and Goya the Trade Minister for
India and their communications ministries? Why are they all wrong?
They're all saying what I'm saying. How come that all
of a sudden you got this contract where the Indians
got it all wrong and sales Winster Peters and the
National Party's got it all right. Excuse me, this is
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not our first, not.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Your first rodeo. Then why did you say, why did
you seen Mark Patterson, your wall guy, over to India.
Isn't that a bit two faced?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
No, not too face. We've been working on exporting the
wall all around the world since we've got the job,
and Mike's done a fantastic job. And there I said,
if you go to their Indian new Parliament, the carpet
is magnificent carve. It's provided by New Zealand. This is
nothing to do with this. I mean, this is the
kind of deal that we talked about getting out there
and trading properly, but making it up and manifesting it
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as the Prime Minister has while he subserviently bows down
to an Indian culture in New Zealand was just breathtaking.
How could we possibly be proud of what he did?
I mean, the salue taste, the secretness of the Prime
Minister's behavior when many of finances here was just breathtaking.
And you know it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Would you have held hands with Mody?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
No, I wouldn't have because I'm gone onto my own
culture and I've spent another country to come here and
respect Mike Hotter when I'm here, That's not the way
and his illness.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Behave Hey Winston, Peter's thanks for your time. I could
argue all day with you, but I haven't got that time.
Good luck for you your national conferences this weekend, doesn't.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
It it is?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Is it true that you need a gold card to
get in?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
You've only a gold card to get in, but you'll
need to get there early because tell me why it
will be war to war. Unlike other parties, they kind
of get and put it down telephone booth together.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Only New Zealand first can savers. Thanks for your time.
Oh yeah, I know I lost none of us bark
Cassie Winston Peters, thank you for your time twenty six
after twelve. Sorry for the technical problems at the beginning
of a show. I repeat and reiterate, not of our making. Okay,
Oh my god. Jamie Winston's getting more like Trump every day,
(13:01):
says Laura. Tell me what you think of Winston anyhow.
The bird flu you've heard what he said about it,
the latest from mPire. What people can do? Okay, So
if you see three or more sick or dead wild
birds in a group, reported immediately to the Exotic Pest
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and Disease Hotline, now that number is eight hundred eighty
ninety nine sixty six eight hundred eighty ninety nine sixty
six from anywhere in New Zealand, or you can report
it online at report dot MPI dot govt dot NZ.
If you use this method, select the dead or dying
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birds option from the dropdown list and then type and
then type the name of the bird you've found. If
you see dead birds, don't handle or move them. So
that's what MPI are saying about the bird flu. We're
going to tell you what the ossies are doing about
the bird flew a wee bit later in the hour.
But up up next it's our Ossie correspondent. No it's not.
(14:05):
He's up later in the air. Up next, we're going
to try and track down Shane mcmanaway and Kokura. Welcome
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back to the country. The Little River band help is
on its way. That's what we heard from Winston. Some
of your feedback on Winston from that interview Winston J
McKay one percent. He's another one. Hi, Jamie Winston is
full of bs. The Indian FTA is fantastic. If we
haven't got a country's business, we can't add value to it,
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says Tony and Jones says, can't trust Peter's one bit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was kingmaker and went
with Labor. I don't know about that one. Worried about
the Opportunity Party being kingmaker at Anyhow, we're away, way
off the election. Shane mcmanaway joins us from kai Kura.
He's a well known wire rapper, farmer, a philanthropist, very
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well known in New Zealand. Agg circles wire a rapper
got smacked by the rain events, in fact two of them.
But Shane, you've gone down to kai Kura to help
your son, Adam out who we had on the country
last week, because he or that region is even worse
affected than yours. Good afternoon, Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
Here in beautiful kai Kurra today, not a only a
breath of wind. The son's out lovely and mild, and
thank goodness for that because in a pretty disastrous situation.
So that led a part of last week. Adam, my
son's dairy farming here just on the outskirts of kai Kura,
and there's three rivers that sort of run up in
the back underneath the hills that broke their banks. Almost
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at the same time, and they just couldn't contain the
stop banks couldn't contain the water, and a fair chunk
of it came down and went across the dairy platform.
So some of the beautiful dairy pastures now are riverbed.
So pretty disheartening. But for the last three or four
days we've been on diggers, ramming in posts, and I've
sort of come out of retirement.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Jamie on fencing, Well, I know you love diggers, but
I think you would sooner play with them in a
different time and space. What is the recovery period for
Adam and his farm and some of those badly flood
affected farms in the Kaikura region.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, look, I.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Think they're getting fences back up and getting stock water
going as probably the number has been the number one priority,
and we're pretty much on Adam. Adam, unfortunately his farm
was the worst effect in the region.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There's lots of.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Areas that are really bad, but Adam unfortunately wore the
brunt of it down here on the on the on
the flats. We got the four hundred dairy cows back
onto the platform yesterday. They came back from the runoff.
A little fortunate to runoff. The cows were within walking distance.
We got them back onto here, so it's really just
sort of business as usual. But Jamie without fences and
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without water troughs and some paddocks at the moment. But
one of the things that there has been an unbelievable
God send is that Adam's got Halter collars on his
cows and he's now able to start feeding. Has heard
of dairy cows on the fodder beat without a fence
in sight. It's unbelievable. I never thought i'd see the day,
but I'm bloody pleased that they came up with that idea.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yes, Halter does were wearable collars because there's more than
just Halter do provide some insurance against events like this
when and we were talking about it earlier in the
week on the show, like when fences get washed out,
especially on high country.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Yeah, absolutely, it's worth its weight in gold. In this
particular instance. Jamie and Holt have been great. They've been
on the phone to Adam to see what more they
can do to help. Has been one of the things
I'd just like to point out here. Since I've been
here in Kaikoura the last four days, is that the
community spirit here is unbelievable. There's people coming up the
I've sort of at least every hour to help with something.
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If it's not dropping off food, is to see if
they can come and help take stuff out of fences.
Like it's just unbelievable. And the Kaikura District Council, I
think there's a few district councils around New Zealand should
come down and take a leaf out of their book.
They I don't think they've got knowing their vocabulary. They
just do whatever they can to help. It's so impressive.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
How's the water up there getting on, Jamie, We're.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
On almost almost a cut and paste to be quite honest.
From down here. We've got rivers that broke their banks
and busily trying to fix those up. A lot of
affected farmers. But you know, one of the issues that
we have up and down the country is we're not
we've been unable to get the gravel out of the
rivers because of rules and regulations, and we've now got
river beds that you could bridges that you could drive
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under with a digger, you know, thirty years ago, and
today you wouldn't get under them with a gokut and
you know it's just it's just a it's a there's
no wonder we've got these disasters continually happening, happening. We've
got to get to get hold of whoever wrote the
rule book and says we can't take it out to
change it, to say we can, because I'm you know,
I'm no river engineer, but I'm pretty sure that if
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there's less gravel in there, there's pair chances more water
can go down.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Okay, let's just finish on Winston. Peter's some Maori. Your
feedback coming in Indian FTA is undoubtedly and need a
deal for New Zealand. But I'm worried Winston may actually
been right. He's been awfully consistent with his messaging and
is aligned with the messaging from the Indians. Time will
tell you heard Winston. He was pretty fired up. What
do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yeah, well, it's hard to not believe that the arrangement
with India is the free trade arrangement with India is
not a good thing, Jamie. I mean, one point four
billion people, and if they're wanting to buy our stuff
and we want to form relationships with them, there's bloody
hard to argue, I would have thought, but he's a
warrior of Fox and he's been around a long time,
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so I wouldn't like that get up and argue against
to me either. So yeah, you're right, he's been incredibly consistent.
But I guess time will tell whether it's a good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thing or not.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Okay, here's another one. Winston was correct about Fonterra miles
gone and a major restructure, jobs being cut all the
way through selling brands. There you go, So Winston's got
quite a bit of support out there. Shane mcmanuay to
you and your farming family and Cocura. All the best
in the recovery.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Great thanks Jennie, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Good on yet there we go, great block, Shane mcmanaway. Right,
we are trying to get to the bottom of some
of your our issues really around broadcasting the show around
the country today. We are working on it as quickly
as we can. Up next, Rural News and sports News.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
By the Queen of Hearts.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Every time have you had about the Lords?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Welcome back to the country, twenty one away from one.
Here's Michelle with the latest and a Rural News, The.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Country's world news with Cob cadets leading right on lawn
bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot co dot nz for
your local Stoggist.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And Acting Prime Minister David Seymour says bird flu will
not be a rerun of COVID. New Zealand's first case
of the H five N one strain of bird flu
has been identified in a brown suker picked up at
Wellington's at the Tony Beach six days ago on July tenth.
It's a low house risk because it really affects humans
and eggs and poultry are safe to eat. Seymour sears
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that the government's been planning for a possible outbreak and
he says will be okay, and it's imported. To remember
this is bird flu, not human flu. If you want
to keep up with that, hit to the MPI website.
There's all the information on there as well as a
way to report any sick birds as well.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, and if you do see three or more sick birds,
report or call eight hundred and eighty ninety nine sixty
six and don't handle or move them. There's Rural News
Chris Russell shortly on the bird flu, but here's sport.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Sport on the country with AFCO one hundred percent Q
we owned. That's rare.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Ireland and Andy Farrell has restored his front liners to
the starting side for Saturday's Nations Championship test against the
All Blacks of Eden Park at Park, including Dunedin Bourne
Sewn Jansen. We didn't want him here. He's gone over
and got a game for Ireland and the tactics of
England manager Thomas Tukil are under the microscope following the
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two one Football World Cup semi final loss to Argentina
in Atlanta. The Three Lions conceded too late goals after
leading one nill, but Tukele says their structure didn't change
after he made substitutions, but matched it. Now up next
either Chris Russell and Australia or Peter Newbold one or t'other.
We're just trying to sort out our show. Monthly here
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on the Country, we tell you how much your farm
is worth? Peter Newbold GM of PGG Rights and joins
us Peter, is your farm worth more than it was
a month ago when we last.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Chaed Yeah, I think it is in all sectors. Really.
Is it massive?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
But definitely there's renewed interest in all the sectors. I
think there's good momentum. The real community is in a
good space, and I guess what's happening overseas, you could
argue is a little bit more stable. So I think
we're going to see continued momentum in values to some
point and volumes.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Well, let's start with the biggest act in town of
a dairy industry or dairy farms. There's been a lot
of interest in dairy farms. But as we know, and
we've been discussing this this week on the country, the
margins are getting squeezed awe. But because of those events
happening offshore, the cost side of the ledger has gone up.
The milk forecast prices come down. As it stands at
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the moment, you won't be making a fortune, but as
we know, it's very fickle and can go up and
down very quickly.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Yeah, look, it's an interesting space. I still think we'll
see continuity there and in sales. And then the other
thing that I remember, there's a lot of conversions taking place,
so probably on the other side of it is finding
enough stock to fill those spaces. So I still think
we'll see reasonable sales there. I think there'll be a
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shortage of listings, so I think it'll continue on there.
How would I put it steadily? I think we were
going to see the biggest upside this spring is in
the sheep and beef and it's been a bit of
surprise for me the activity that's taking place already, especially
in the what I call you know south, you know
south of sort of north Otago Otago and south and
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for example, a lot of activity taking place there. And
then when you look at what's coming up in the spring,
and I think it'll all happen early spring. I think
sheep and beef are going to be the game in
town the spring.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, I'm loving the renaissance and profitability for especially the
sheep farmers. It's long overdue, so there's increased interests there
and the returns are there to be taken at the moment.
And then we look at beef. See, beef just has
a really good medium term outlook and.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
When you look at it, there's nothing to say that
it's not going to continue on. And that's in cheap
ann and beef. So you know, if we look as
a business, we look forward, unless something happens offshore, then
I think it'll just continue on and I think because
there are good returns there, it puts people in a
space where they can think about those other things which
we've talked about previously, about bringing family into the farm
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or selling or whatever, those whole things in and around succession.
So it's looking good now.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I know that some people in the horticulture industry, especially
in viticulture, are facing tough times, but it would be
fair to say Kiwi fruits on a real high at
the moment. Are we getting back to those silly prices
or key we fruit orchards.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
I don't know if we'll get back to the silly prices,
but if you go back to October last year, that's
probably when it's sort of kicked back into gear and
we've I've seen an uplifting value since October up towards
twenty percent. I think the big thing we're going to
see this coming season is not so many new listings,
but I think we're going to see a push in
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and around demand for them and that could influence price
moving up again. And when you look at it, you
know you're getting good returns in the Kiwi fruit sector
where you've got a lot of third party work taking place,
so excuse me, it does take the pressure off. So
I think we're going to see not so many listing opportunities,
(26:35):
but I think we're going to see an upside and value.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
PGG writs and certainly get their pound of flesh out
of you. Not only do you run the real estate division,
you run the livestock division. Now there's a lot of
noise around at the moment about the al ninos. Some
are calling it a super al Nino. What are your
guys on the ground telling you, and what are the
farmers doing? Do you think to prepare for this?
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Yeah, Look, there's a lot of noise, both internally and externally,
and I think what's taken place at the moment is
a lot of people are probably looking ahead and thinking
how do we manage our farm as we come into
that sort of I guess summer period. So I think
a lot of them have been cautious. None of us
really know what will happen. But if there is a
(27:18):
doubt a drought, that will affect certain parts of our
livestock business. And I think just at the moment, people
are just being cautious in and around how they're going
to operate next well coming into the summer months. But look,
until it happens, I think we've still got to remain positive.
But you know the other thing you've got to think
is the East Coast have had some challenges in recent
(27:39):
times and it'd be sad to think that they get
clovered with you know, super dry conditions.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Also, well, there's plenty of moisture in the sub soil
at the moment. It would be fair to say too
much of it's slushing about in many cases. But yep,
I guess fore warned is forearmed, and those guys on
the east coast of both islands are very used to
farming through. That's what you get when you live on
the East coast. Peter Newbold, thank you very much for
your time. We'll catch you again next month.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
He thanks, Jomie, have a good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, thank you, Peter. It is eleven or way from one.
More of your feedback on Onston. You're loving him, Jamie.
Do you realize over fifty percent of the people in
India can't afford to buy our products? Let me throw
that round at you the other way, Texter. That means
that fifty percent of their population i e. Seven hundred
million can afford to buy our products? You think on
(28:31):
that one up Next, we're going to talk to our
Elsie correspondent Chris Russell. What he doesn't know about bird
flu isn't worth knowing? Okay, wrapping the country rather disjointed
(28:56):
show today, not of our making. I reiterate that with
or else he Correspondent Chris Russell. Chris, you listened to
Winston Peters when we eventually got them to hear what
did you make of them? Good afternoon? By the way, wait, gooday, how.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Are you Jamie? Look? I was interested to hear that.
You know, it almost.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Sounded like a repeat of much of what we've been
hearing from Pauline Hanson and the One Nation Party here
as regards your immigration, in particular this idea of a
single culture. She got into a favorit of trouble talking
about mono culture because I think a lot of people
had to reach for their dictionary. But that's what she
meant was we have one culture here in Australian culture.
(29:38):
And I heard Winston saying we have a New Zealand culture.
Of course we are all multi racial, but you know, anyway,
it was interesting to hear that when I was in Napier.
I also met up with a former Labor member there
who is now tied up with the first one New
Zealand First Party, Stuart Nash.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Amongst the whole party, I must say a I went to.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
A party there and I'd say ninety percent of them
seem to be avid rustled on country listeners.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So it was like a reunion which was quite good fun.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
Wow, but it was very.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Sting hearing Stuart and of the least hearing Winston and
also talking to Stuart when I was in Apia.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, and you've almost made a fraudy and slip. I
think you've referenced New Zealand First as one New Zealand First.
I don't know if Winston will appreciate the comparison to
Pauline Hanson. Hey, I want to talk to you about
bird flu It's our big story here today. It was
a matter of when, not if we've found one single
bird at the stage, I think in the you and
I was going to say in the US, getting confused myself.
(30:39):
In Australia, you've got three states.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
We've got South Australia seems to be collecting the most,
which is not surprising. We had a false alarm in
Queensland up at NUSA where they found a sick giant
petrol sitting on the beach, but it's now to be
confirmed that was not age five inn one. But there's
alltother been thirteen cases in Australia, but all of them
(31:03):
in migratory birds that have been found on beaches or
near the coast. We haven't yet seen it in where
it's been jumped into local wildlife in Australia and certainly
haven't seen any evidence of it having crossed in a mammal.
So everyone's on high alert here.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
There are a lot of volunteers being called up.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
One of the unfortunate things is this is a very
well known bird observatory called the Air Bird observed she
just above the Great Australian Bite and it's been destaffed
because they couldn't provide emergency evacuation for a volunteer there
when she got six.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Until they can sort that out, they've de staffed it.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
And yet that was one of the critical sentinel points
really for migrating birds that might be coming in with
bird flu. So it's a real worry I must say
what potentially could happen. But the authorities say, look, they've
been preparing for it for a long time, and let's
not panic by all the eggs up and all the
other things we tend to do, and let's just see
as it progresses. I think it's almost inevitable Jamie, that
(32:05):
we will see it here shortly.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, ditto here. Look, let's talk about lamb Australian. In fact,
Australian and New Zealand producers are still gaining market share
in the US that announced this global trade investigation focusing
on lamb. How do you reckon it's going to affect
both of our countries.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Well, I think that it's a reaction to last October's
called by the US lamb producers for tariffs that be
put there. They've said that they are not making money,
that there's been sold from countries where it's a lot
cheaper than it is in America and therefore ats cheaper
prices which will displace US production and also erode their profitability.
(32:46):
Most of the sheep meat going into the US actually
comes from Australia, around about one hundred thousand tons, which
is a billion dollars worth last year, and currently we're
having a ten percent tariff applied under the latest tariffs
that the President has imposed on us. But look, everyone
here is confident the demand will remain the same. It'll
(33:08):
be very interested to see what this investigation actually produces,
and I'm sure saw the sheet produces. Australia Chief Bonnie
Skinner said the farmers would be working very hard to
put their case forward that we have a long standing
relationship and we've really developed the market.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And there's nothing that's under hand or in any.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Way it can be orientated towards export dumping that could
be applied to Australian ram lamb getting into the US.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Jamie Okay, Chris Russell, I've got to go, thank you
very much for your time. I was looking at all
these little River band, great Aussie band songs I've got
applicable to the English football team and probably the Wallabies
as well. Home on a Monday lunsome loser hang on
help us on its way a reminiscing the other guy
that's a lion or MESSI So I guess I won't
(33:57):
rub it on, but good luck in the Nation's Championship.
You might it with you Wallabies.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Chris, Oh my goodness, may absolutely let's move on.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Hey, thanks for your comments on the bird flu. Appreciate it.
That's Chris Russell, our Australian correspondent, wrapping the show today.
We'll be back and better tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
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Las Vegas, Filson? I know it's part deal. It's just
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yes, that's where I'm calling from the Las Vegas Hilton.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
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Speaker 6 (00:54):
That I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm well, good afternoon, New Zealand, but laatedly I'm Jamie McKay.
This is The Country, brought to you by Isuzu and Farmlands,
just for the English football team home on a Monday
instead of playing a World Cup final on a Monday. Look,
(01:20):
sorry for the technical problems, not of our making. Someone's
pushed a button somewhere up north and you've got a
bit of the other guys, but you've got us now,
so anyhow, Look, we're going to do our best to
get through the rest of the show between now and
one o'clock. Really keen to talk about the bird flu.
(01:41):
In fact, their first guest, Winston Peters, will get his
take on that, and someone who does know a lot
about the bird flu is our Australian correspondent Chris Russell
because I think they've basically discovered it in three states
in the US, so we're going to update that situation
for you. Winston Peters also going to hopefully head to
(02:01):
Kaikoura to catch up with Shane mcmanaway. He is a
wire rapper farmer, well known, high profile bloke in New
Zealand agriculture. They got hammered and the wire rapper, but
not as bad as Kakurra. He's down there on a
digger trying to help out his son Adam on the
dairy farm. So I'll update the flooding for you if
I can find him. And who knows what's going to
(02:22):
happen today, We'll have a yarn to Peter Newbold, also
GM of PGG rights in real estate and will tell
you how much your farm's worth. Might even ask him
to put on his PGG rights and livestock hat and
talk about the threat. A lot of noise about it
isn't the super al Nino. But kicking off the show
with Winston and the bird flew and celebrity candidates and
(02:47):
the Indian FDA on a Monday around kicking off the
(03:07):
country today, New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters. Let's start
with the serious stuff and then we'll have an argument
a wee bit later on about the Indian FTA, as
we do every time we chat. Talk to me, mister
Peters about the bird flu. How worried should we be?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Well, I don't think we should get over worried at
this point in time. I mean this one that has
been found probably maybe more it's it's possibly to the
good life of this country. That's important. So let's be
very careful here. But let's not overreact and must do
judgment too soon.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
So we're not facing another pandemic.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I don't believe so well, let's hope.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So anyhow, Okay, celebrity candidates, we've already heard about Tyane Randall,
Stu Nash. I think Stu would call himself a celebrity.
And now Michael Laws. But have you been outgunned by
the ACT Party bringing in Paul Henry who was quite
critical of you, if you don't mind me saying so.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Well as the amateur Hour. That's why the fact of
the matter is that at seven pm previous night, the
ACT Party found out that their former president was up
against Upling in the court again for Peterphilia charges. So
that's why they dropped this one. And at this point
in time, the constance the coensence is echoing around the country.
(04:28):
For goodness sake, there's no surprises here. But as Paul
Henry's going to find out, this is a difficult job politics,
and he's going to have to.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Learn someone who has also been getting stuck into you,
as Andrew A. Vance. I spent a couple of weeks
in Australia, but it was a big story while I
was over there. She got stuck into you, and you
got stuck into her in return. And then there was
a column from someone this columns everywhere these days about
how an eighty year old is very cleverly using social media.
(04:58):
Did you take that as a compliment?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And yes I did, And I took them so long
to learn that in the first place. But Andrew advanced.
I took it to the Press Council and won because
she made a whole lot of statements were false about
the Qui rail and the press counselor awread with me.
But before that, you recall I've accused her and Peter
Dunn of releasing state secrets. Remember that, and Peter Dunn
lost his job, so she hates me, and I understand why.
(05:21):
But she used to work for News of the World.
Who the News of the World. Well they had they
were shut down for lying to the British media. That's
how bad they were. So I'm not taking your lessons
from Andrew Advance. She's better than twisted and I've proven it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Are you worried about the Opportunity Party getting past that
five percent threshold? I know you say bug of the polls,
a bit like your old mate Jim Bolger, But the
reality is if they do manage to get past five percent,
and I'm not suggesting they will, but if they did,
that would mean a change of government.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
First of all, look, the first thing I know about opportunity,
there's opportunity costs, and in this case, a whole lot
of consultants and consultants will send you an invoice. It's
all the hype of the mainstream media. They're trying to
prop them up, give them all the coverage possible, and
so are you. When do they have a last public meeting?
Do you see it? Did you know what they said?
Without their manifesto? They reach what they said. They haven't
(06:15):
told you anything about what they mean. But there are
a bunch of left wingers. Sadly they'll send everybody over
sixty five destitute because they're going to have land tax
and nobody over sixty five bill pay it. So when
they find out about this, I'm not concerned about them, No,
I'm worried about one pay in the past for New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
First universal income in a land tax that would be
crippling for many in the productive sector, and I particularly
look at farming.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, and you and your listeners. So I'll tell you
what are you.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
New Zealand First conservants?
Speaker 6 (06:45):
If you won't be saved yet, you've got to write
God you task. You took a long time to get
to there, but at last five of you understood you've
got one chance to be down on the farm. And
that father in chance is Zuan First.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
How did you take to be called a clown by
a former minister John Key?
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Well, look, Paul, John, I mean you know, do you remember
there's the crash in Wall Street, of the crash and
that two thousand and eight when all these companies went down.
In the fourth company to go down was Merrill Lynch
got bailed out by the American taxpayers. Well, John Key's
background was with them, and I said at the time,
and I don't come here and tell us what you know.
This is a fraud and pudge and company you worked
(07:23):
for and they've been found out. And the second thing
about John Key, when he talks about it, there my
quest to John Keys, Mister Key, if this deal is
so good, how come by twenty fifty you learnly grow
our GDP by one tenth of one percent? Explain that
to me if you weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Where did you get that number from? Have you just
pulled that out of your backside?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
No? Now that's the treasure is forecast. I didn't pull
it out of there. You should know this. I am
astonisher here, I am here. I am on this date,
all the way in the July the sixteenth, twenty twenty sixth,
after all these months of December last year they were
talking about signing up to it, and you've found out
for the first time what it's value to our economy is.
(08:04):
I am deeply shocked. And the people who suffered the most,
of the farmers, because they're nothing having your dairy products
down there? Are they? And when it comes to the
other products, when it comes to beef well or Mutton
have a look at the US. That's the UK and
other countries sales to them, or do I say the
afet and sells them and tell you why he's so confident.
I'm astonished that you've learned to see and now that
(08:26):
the GDP growth will be only one ten to one
percent by twenty fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I buy that
I spoke to and I know your good mates with them,
you were very good mates with his father.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yes, you say not for you buy that. I've been
saying that for days now. Has anybody refuted me? No?
The only person refuted me as you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, I don't know the numbers. I don't know if
you've just made them up and trying to pull the
wall over my eyes.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And I know they might have made them up there
to be refuted me, wouldn't they internal.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Okay, let me go back to Todd McLay and I know
the mat yours and you get along well with them.
This is what he had to say yesterday. It's only
a twenty second club on the twenty billion dollar investment.
Listen to this, the twenty billion dollar investment. Is it
an investment or is it an aspirational target.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
It's an aspirational target to promote investment. And the government
has taken our commitment to promote investment, and it is
very clear in the legislation it has written down.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Lawyers on both sides.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Scrutinized that our responsibility is to promote it is not
to invest.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So what do you say about that? What do you
say an answer to that?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Stop playing with words? And the reality is that I've
been saying for a long time, what this thirty three
billion USIC in New Zealand dollars will cost us into
the Union economy? And here comes the money. He's coming
over He's got a high commission here, that's seen all
the controversy. He gets over here, and he still said
what he said because that's the way they've read it.
(09:53):
And then it cost us if we don't match up
with what we promised. That's the reality.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But why wouldn't Why wouldn't we, Winston Peters, invest in
an economy that is a marketplace of one point four
billion and growing daily.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
We would because we're not stupid. We should be investing
in a country called New Zealand, not a country called
India for goodness? Well, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Men?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
What I can see why you're better than national parks
that global.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You don't know who I vote for. I could be
a New Zealand first voter if it wasn't for your
stance on the FDA. Also, Todd McLay had this to
say about immigration. Hey, what about the unfettered migration that
he's banging on about selection year?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He's absolutely completely one thousand percent wrong. One thousand, six
hundred and seventy skilled workers per year could come to
New Zealand, They're only allowed to stay for three years
and they have to go home. They can't reapply on
that same visa for another three years.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So there you go. You're a one thousand percent wrong.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Now what's wrong with that is? Who have I'm wrong?
And why is Moody and Goya the Trade Minister for
India and their communications ministries? Why are they all wrong?
They're all saying what I'm saying. How come that all
of a sudden you got this contract where the Indians
got it all wrong and sales Winster Peters and the
National Party's got it all right. Excuse me, this is
(11:16):
not our first, not.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Your first rodeo. Then why did you say, why did
you seen Mark Patterson, your wall guy, over to India.
Isn't that a bit two faced?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
No, not too face. We've been working on exporting the
wall all around the world since we've got the job,
and Mike's done a fantastic job. And there I said,
if you go to their Indian new Parliament, the carpet
is magnificent carve. It's provided by New Zealand. This is
nothing to do with this. I mean, this is the
kind of deal that we talked about getting out there
and trading properly, but making it up and manifesting it
(11:48):
as the Prime Minister has while he subserviently bows down
to an Indian culture in New Zealand was just breathtaking.
How could we possibly be proud of what he did?
I mean, the salue taste, the secretness of the Prime
Minister's behavior when many of finances here was just breathtaking.
And you know it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Would you have held hands with Mody?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
No, I wouldn't have because I'm gone onto my own
culture and I've spent another country to come here and
respect Mike Hotter when I'm here, That's not the way
and his illness.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Behave Hey Winston, Peter's thanks for your time. I could
argue all day with you, but I haven't got that time.
Good luck for you your national conferences this weekend, doesn't.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
It it is?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Is it true that you need a gold card to
get in?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
You've only a gold card to get in, but you'll
need to get there early because tell me why it
will be war to war. Unlike other parties, they kind
of get and put it down telephone booth together.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Only New Zealand first can savers. Thanks for your time.
Oh yeah, I know I lost none of us bark
Cassie Winston Peters, thank you for your time twenty six
after twelve. Sorry for the technical problems at the beginning
of a show. I repeat and reiterate, not of our making. Okay,
Oh my god. Jamie Winston's getting more like Trump every day,
(13:01):
says Laura. Tell me what you think of Winston anyhow.
The bird flu you've heard what he said about it,
the latest from mPire. What people can do? Okay, So
if you see three or more sick or dead wild
birds in a group, reported immediately to the Exotic Pest
(13:21):
and Disease Hotline, now that number is eight hundred eighty
ninety nine sixty six eight hundred eighty ninety nine sixty
six from anywhere in New Zealand, or you can report
it online at report dot MPI dot govt dot NZ.
If you use this method, select the dead or dying
(13:42):
birds option from the dropdown list and then type and
then type the name of the bird you've found. If
you see dead birds, don't handle or move them. So
that's what MPI are saying about the bird flu. We're
going to tell you what the ossies are doing about
the bird flew a wee bit later in the hour.
But up up next it's our Ossie correspondent. No it's not.
(14:05):
He's up later in the air. Up next, we're going
to try and track down Shane mcmanaway and Kokura. Welcome
(14:27):
back to the country. The Little River band help is
on its way. That's what we heard from Winston. Some
of your feedback on Winston from that interview Winston J
McKay one percent. He's another one. Hi, Jamie Winston is
full of bs. The Indian FTA is fantastic. If we
haven't got a country's business, we can't add value to it,
(14:49):
says Tony and Jones says, can't trust Peter's one bit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was kingmaker and went
with Labor. I don't know about that one. Worried about
the Opportunity Party being kingmaker at Anyhow, we're away, way
off the election. Shane mcmanaway joins us from kai Kura.
He's a well known wire rapper, farmer, a philanthropist, very
(15:11):
well known in New Zealand. Agg circles wire a rapper
got smacked by the rain events, in fact two of them.
But Shane, you've gone down to kai Kura to help
your son, Adam out who we had on the country
last week, because he or that region is even worse
affected than yours. Good afternoon, Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
Here in beautiful kai Kurra today, not a only a
breath of wind. The son's out lovely and mild, and
thank goodness for that because in a pretty disastrous situation.
So that led a part of last week. Adam, my
son's dairy farming here just on the outskirts of kai Kura,
and there's three rivers that sort of run up in
the back underneath the hills that broke their banks. Almost
(15:52):
at the same time, and they just couldn't contain the
stop banks couldn't contain the water, and a fair chunk
of it came down and went across the dairy platform.
So some of the beautiful dairy pastures now are riverbed.
So pretty disheartening. But for the last three or four
days we've been on diggers, ramming in posts, and I've
sort of come out of retirement.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Jamie on fencing, Well, I know you love diggers, but
I think you would sooner play with them in a
different time and space. What is the recovery period for
Adam and his farm and some of those badly flood
affected farms in the Kaikura region.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, look, I.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Think they're getting fences back up and getting stock water
going as probably the number has been the number one priority,
and we're pretty much on Adam. Adam, unfortunately his farm
was the worst effect in the region.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There's lots of.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Areas that are really bad, but Adam unfortunately wore the
brunt of it down here on the on the on
the flats. We got the four hundred dairy cows back
onto the platform yesterday. They came back from the runoff.
A little fortunate to runoff. The cows were within walking distance.
We got them back onto here, so it's really just
sort of business as usual. But Jamie without fences and
(17:04):
without water troughs and some paddocks at the moment. But
one of the things that there has been an unbelievable
God send is that Adam's got Halter collars on his
cows and he's now able to start feeding. Has heard
of dairy cows on the fodder beat without a fence
in sight. It's unbelievable. I never thought i'd see the day,
but I'm bloody pleased that they came up with that idea.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yes, Halter does were wearable collars because there's more than
just Halter do provide some insurance against events like this
when and we were talking about it earlier in the
week on the show, like when fences get washed out,
especially on high country.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Yeah, absolutely, it's worth its weight in gold. In this
particular instance. Jamie and Holt have been great. They've been
on the phone to Adam to see what more they
can do to help. Has been one of the things
I'd just like to point out here. Since I've been
here in Kaikoura the last four days, is that the
community spirit here is unbelievable. There's people coming up the
I've sort of at least every hour to help with something.
(18:02):
If it's not dropping off food, is to see if
they can come and help take stuff out of fences.
Like it's just unbelievable. And the Kaikura District Council, I
think there's a few district councils around New Zealand should
come down and take a leaf out of their book.
They I don't think they've got knowing their vocabulary. They
just do whatever they can to help. It's so impressive.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
How's the water up there getting on, Jamie, We're.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
On almost almost a cut and paste to be quite honest.
From down here. We've got rivers that broke their banks
and busily trying to fix those up. A lot of
affected farmers. But you know, one of the issues that
we have up and down the country is we're not
we've been unable to get the gravel out of the
rivers because of rules and regulations, and we've now got
river beds that you could bridges that you could drive
(18:47):
under with a digger, you know, thirty years ago, and
today you wouldn't get under them with a gokut and
you know it's just it's just a it's a there's
no wonder we've got these disasters continually happening, happening. We've
got to get to get hold of whoever wrote the
rule book and says we can't take it out to
change it, to say we can, because I'm you know,
I'm no river engineer, but I'm pretty sure that if
(19:09):
there's less gravel in there, there's pair chances more water
can go down.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Okay, let's just finish on Winston. Peter's some Maori. Your
feedback coming in Indian FTA is undoubtedly and need a
deal for New Zealand. But I'm worried Winston may actually
been right. He's been awfully consistent with his messaging and
is aligned with the messaging from the Indians. Time will
tell you heard Winston. He was pretty fired up. What
do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yeah, well, it's hard to not believe that the arrangement
with India is the free trade arrangement with India is
not a good thing, Jamie. I mean, one point four
billion people, and if they're wanting to buy our stuff
and we want to form relationships with them, there's bloody
hard to argue, I would have thought, but he's a
warrior of Fox and he's been around a long time,
(19:55):
so I wouldn't like that get up and argue against
to me either. So yeah, you're right, he's been incredibly consistent.
But I guess time will tell whether it's a good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thing or not.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Okay, here's another one. Winston was correct about Fonterra miles
gone and a major restructure, jobs being cut all the
way through selling brands. There you go, So Winston's got
quite a bit of support out there. Shane mcmanuay to
you and your farming family and Cocura. All the best
in the recovery.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Great thanks Jennie, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Good on yet there we go, great block, Shane mcmanaway. Right,
we are trying to get to the bottom of some
of your our issues really around broadcasting the show around
the country today. We are working on it as quickly
as we can. Up next, Rural News and sports News.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
By the Queen of Hearts.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Every time have you had about the Lords?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Welcome back to the country, twenty one away from one.
Here's Michelle with the latest and a Rural News, The.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Country's world news with Cob cadets leading right on lawn
bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot co dot nz for
your local Stoggist.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And Acting Prime Minister David Seymour says bird flu will
not be a rerun of COVID. New Zealand's first case
of the H five N one strain of bird flu
has been identified in a brown suker picked up at
Wellington's at the Tony Beach six days ago on July tenth.
It's a low house risk because it really affects humans
and eggs and poultry are safe to eat. Seymour sears
(21:26):
that the government's been planning for a possible outbreak and
he says will be okay, and it's imported. To remember
this is bird flu, not human flu. If you want
to keep up with that, hit to the MPI website.
There's all the information on there as well as a
way to report any sick birds as well.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, and if you do see three or more sick birds,
report or call eight hundred and eighty ninety nine sixty
six and don't handle or move them. There's Rural News
Chris Russell shortly on the bird flu, but here's sport.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Sport on the country with AFCO one hundred percent Q
we owned. That's rare.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Ireland and Andy Farrell has restored his front liners to
the starting side for Saturday's Nations Championship test against the
All Blacks of Eden Park at Park, including Dunedin Bourne
Sewn Jansen. We didn't want him here. He's gone over
and got a game for Ireland and the tactics of
England manager Thomas Tukil are under the microscope following the
(22:21):
two one Football World Cup semi final loss to Argentina
in Atlanta. The Three Lions conceded too late goals after
leading one nill, but Tukele says their structure didn't change
after he made substitutions, but matched it. Now up next
either Chris Russell and Australia or Peter Newbold one or t'other.
We're just trying to sort out our show. Monthly here
(22:50):
on the Country, we tell you how much your farm
is worth? Peter Newbold GM of PGG Rights and joins
us Peter, is your farm worth more than it was
a month ago when we last.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Chaed Yeah, I think it is in all sectors. Really.
Is it massive?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
But definitely there's renewed interest in all the sectors. I
think there's good momentum. The real community is in a
good space, and I guess what's happening overseas, you could
argue is a little bit more stable. So I think
we're going to see continued momentum in values to some
point and volumes.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Well, let's start with the biggest act in town of
a dairy industry or dairy farms. There's been a lot
of interest in dairy farms. But as we know, and
we've been discussing this this week on the country, the
margins are getting squeezed awe. But because of those events
happening offshore, the cost side of the ledger has gone up.
The milk forecast prices come down. As it stands at
(23:48):
the moment, you won't be making a fortune, but as
we know, it's very fickle and can go up and
down very quickly.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Yeah, look, it's an interesting space. I still think we'll
see continuity there and in sales. And then the other
thing that I remember, there's a lot of conversions taking place,
so probably on the other side of it is finding
enough stock to fill those spaces. So I still think
we'll see reasonable sales there. I think there'll be a
(24:16):
shortage of listings, so I think it'll continue on there.
How would I put it steadily? I think we were
going to see the biggest upside this spring is in
the sheep and beef and it's been a bit of
surprise for me the activity that's taking place already, especially
in the what I call you know south, you know
south of sort of north Otago Otago and south and
(24:39):
for example, a lot of activity taking place there. And
then when you look at what's coming up in the spring,
and I think it'll all happen early spring. I think
sheep and beef are going to be the game in
town the spring.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, I'm loving the renaissance and profitability for especially the
sheep farmers. It's long overdue, so there's increased interests there
and the returns are there to be taken at the moment.
And then we look at beef. See, beef just has
a really good medium term outlook and.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
When you look at it, there's nothing to say that
it's not going to continue on. And that's in cheap
ann and beef. So you know, if we look as
a business, we look forward, unless something happens offshore, then
I think it'll just continue on and I think because
there are good returns there, it puts people in a
space where they can think about those other things which
we've talked about previously, about bringing family into the farm
(25:34):
or selling or whatever, those whole things in and around succession.
So it's looking good now.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I know that some people in the horticulture industry, especially
in viticulture, are facing tough times, but it would be
fair to say Kiwi fruits on a real high at
the moment. Are we getting back to those silly prices
or key we fruit orchards.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
I don't know if we'll get back to the silly prices,
but if you go back to October last year, that's
probably when it's sort of kicked back into gear and
we've I've seen an uplifting value since October up towards
twenty percent. I think the big thing we're going to
see this coming season is not so many new listings,
but I think we're going to see a push in
(26:12):
and around demand for them and that could influence price
moving up again. And when you look at it, you
know you're getting good returns in the Kiwi fruit sector
where you've got a lot of third party work taking place,
so excuse me, it does take the pressure off. So
I think we're going to see not so many listing opportunities,
(26:35):
but I think we're going to see an upside and value.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
PGG writs and certainly get their pound of flesh out
of you. Not only do you run the real estate division,
you run the livestock division. Now there's a lot of
noise around at the moment about the al ninos. Some
are calling it a super al Nino. What are your
guys on the ground telling you, and what are the
farmers doing? Do you think to prepare for this?
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Yeah, Look, there's a lot of noise, both internally and externally,
and I think what's taken place at the moment is
a lot of people are probably looking ahead and thinking
how do we manage our farm as we come into
that sort of I guess summer period. So I think
a lot of them have been cautious. None of us
really know what will happen. But if there is a
(27:18):
doubt a drought, that will affect certain parts of our
livestock business. And I think just at the moment, people
are just being cautious in and around how they're going
to operate next well coming into the summer months. But look,
until it happens, I think we've still got to remain positive.
But you know the other thing you've got to think
is the East Coast have had some challenges in recent
(27:39):
times and it'd be sad to think that they get
clovered with you know, super dry conditions.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Also, well, there's plenty of moisture in the sub soil
at the moment. It would be fair to say too
much of it's slushing about in many cases. But yep,
I guess fore warned is forearmed, and those guys on
the east coast of both islands are very used to
farming through. That's what you get when you live on
the East coast. Peter Newbold, thank you very much for
your time. We'll catch you again next month.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
He thanks, Jomie, have a good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, thank you, Peter. It is eleven or way from one.
More of your feedback on Onston. You're loving him, Jamie.
Do you realize over fifty percent of the people in
India can't afford to buy our products? Let me throw
that round at you the other way, Texter. That means
that fifty percent of their population i e. Seven hundred
million can afford to buy our products? You think on
(28:31):
that one up Next, we're going to talk to our
Elsie correspondent Chris Russell. What he doesn't know about bird
flu isn't worth knowing? Okay, wrapping the country rather disjointed
(28:56):
show today, not of our making. I reiterate that with
or else he Correspondent Chris Russell. Chris, you listened to
Winston Peters when we eventually got them to hear what
did you make of them? Good afternoon? By the way, wait, gooday, how.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Are you Jamie? Look? I was interested to hear that.
You know, it almost.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Sounded like a repeat of much of what we've been
hearing from Pauline Hanson and the One Nation Party here
as regards your immigration, in particular this idea of a
single culture. She got into a favorit of trouble talking
about mono culture because I think a lot of people
had to reach for their dictionary. But that's what she
meant was we have one culture here in Australian culture.
(29:38):
And I heard Winston saying we have a New Zealand culture.
Of course we are all multi racial, but you know, anyway,
it was interesting to hear that when I was in Napier.
I also met up with a former Labor member there
who is now tied up with the first one New
Zealand First Party, Stuart Nash.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Amongst the whole party, I must say a I went to.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
A party there and I'd say ninety percent of them
seem to be avid rustled on country listeners.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So it was like a reunion which was quite good fun.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
Wow, but it was very.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Sting hearing Stuart and of the least hearing Winston and
also talking to Stuart when I was in Apia.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, and you've almost made a fraudy and slip. I
think you've referenced New Zealand First as one New Zealand First.
I don't know if Winston will appreciate the comparison to
Pauline Hanson. Hey, I want to talk to you about
bird flu It's our big story here today. It was
a matter of when, not if we've found one single
bird at the stage, I think in the you and
I was going to say in the US, getting confused myself.
(30:39):
In Australia, you've got three states.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
We've got South Australia seems to be collecting the most,
which is not surprising. We had a false alarm in
Queensland up at NUSA where they found a sick giant
petrol sitting on the beach, but it's now to be
confirmed that was not age five inn one. But there's
alltother been thirteen cases in Australia, but all of them
(31:03):
in migratory birds that have been found on beaches or
near the coast. We haven't yet seen it in where
it's been jumped into local wildlife in Australia and certainly
haven't seen any evidence of it having crossed in a mammal.
So everyone's on high alert here.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
There are a lot of volunteers being called up.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
One of the unfortunate things is this is a very
well known bird observatory called the Air Bird observed she
just above the Great Australian Bite and it's been destaffed
because they couldn't provide emergency evacuation for a volunteer there
when she got six.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Until they can sort that out, they've de staffed it.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
And yet that was one of the critical sentinel points
really for migrating birds that might be coming in with
bird flu. So it's a real worry I must say
what potentially could happen. But the authorities say, look, they've
been preparing for it for a long time, and let's
not panic by all the eggs up and all the
other things we tend to do, and let's just see
as it progresses. I think it's almost inevitable Jamie, that
(32:05):
we will see it here shortly.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, ditto here. Look, let's talk about lamb Australian. In fact,
Australian and New Zealand producers are still gaining market share
in the US that announced this global trade investigation focusing
on lamb. How do you reckon it's going to affect
both of our countries.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Well, I think that it's a reaction to last October's
called by the US lamb producers for tariffs that be
put there. They've said that they are not making money,
that there's been sold from countries where it's a lot
cheaper than it is in America and therefore ats cheaper
prices which will displace US production and also erode their profitability.
(32:46):
Most of the sheep meat going into the US actually
comes from Australia, around about one hundred thousand tons, which
is a billion dollars worth last year, and currently we're
having a ten percent tariff applied under the latest tariffs
that the President has imposed on us. But look, everyone
here is confident the demand will remain the same. It'll
(33:08):
be very interested to see what this investigation actually produces,
and I'm sure saw the sheet produces. Australia Chief Bonnie
Skinner said the farmers would be working very hard to
put their case forward that we have a long standing
relationship and we've really developed the market.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And there's nothing that's under hand or in any.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Way it can be orientated towards export dumping that could
be applied to Australian ram lamb getting into the US.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Jamie Okay, Chris Russell, I've got to go, thank you
very much for your time. I was looking at all
these little River band, great Aussie band songs I've got
applicable to the English football team and probably the Wallabies
as well. Home on a Monday lunsome loser hang on
help us on its way a reminiscing the other guy
that's a lion or MESSI So I guess I won't
(33:57):
rub it on, but good luck in the Nation's Championship.
You might it with you Wallabies.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Chris, Oh my goodness, may absolutely let's move on.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Hey, thanks for your comments on the bird flu. Appreciate it.
That's Chris Russell, our Australian correspondent, wrapping the show today.
We'll be back and better tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
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