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Jamie Mackay talks to Jen Corkran, Jo Luxton, Campbell Parker, Chris Russell, and Callum McDonald.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the Land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay Thanks to Farmland's advice you can
trust products, you can count on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Need a favor.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And I holy pray when money gaprayer? So who the
hell them out? Who the hell their my to respect
the Savior? Oh if I hol it's out the gavernan
need a favor.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I only
pray to God when I need a favor. Breaking news
on my smart watch. He's back. Richie Mwanga called into
the all black squad for South Africa series Shock Horror.
Never saw that one coming. So Dave Rennie has been
(00:57):
praying to God for a favor and maybe he's got
it at the expense of poor old Billy Proctor invalid
at home. So Richie muwang is off to South Africa.
That is breaking news for you today. It's Meat Matters
week here on the Country. We had a couple to go.
Tomorrow's show, by the way, I'm living the life of
a traveling salesman, will be coming from our Auckland studios
(01:19):
tomorrow night. We've got a big knees up celebrating one
hundred years of news talks, the'd be and we've all
been old. We've got to go. So there you go.
You got to do sometimes what you got to do.
Meat matters. We're going to kick it off with Jen
Corchran from Rabobanks. She's their red meat expert, their proteins expert.
(01:39):
Mince a long hold staple is now out of reach
for many kiwis as consumers look at chicken and pork
is an alternative source of protein and no wonder beef
mints twenty four dollars a kre low Gee, the old
mints on toast is out the back window. Hawk's actually
the best value routine now at the moment. If only
(02:01):
we would support New Zealand pork growers. But anyhow, that
is the issue we're going to discuss with Joe Luxton,
who was also with Gen Corkran. I'm getting confused. Joe
Luxton is also on the show Parl. Joe's been a
bit crook recently. She keeps putting me off and off
and off. She's promised to come on today and I'm god,
I hope she comes up with some ag policy. We're
(02:23):
less than three months out from the election. Campbell Parker
missed him yesterday, the chief executive of dry and zed
some really interesting trials around plantain. If it's in your pasture, sward,
it can do miracles almost when it comes to nitrogen
or nitrates or nitrogen emissions from ruminants or methane emissions
(02:45):
to be more correct, from ruminants. Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent.
They've got the bird flu bad in Australia. We're still
at two touchwood on that one. And why is Pauline
Hanson ruling the bush? Callum MacDonald will join us talking
a wee bit of ball as well. It is all
on the country.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Meat Matters Week on the Country with PGG Rights and
Livestock delivering trusted advice and nationwide livestock expertise.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Welcome back to the country. We're not mincing our words
on the show today. It's Meat Matters Week and here's
an expert in the field. She is Rabobanks red meat
expert and from my poor pun on mincing words, Jen Corchran,
let's talk about mince. It used to be the domain
of the price conscious no longer.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, mintz is more expensive right than
it's ever been. And I think we might have touched
on this sometime last year when we had a check
here too, and you know, things are still still moving
in that space, and it is really driven by that
demand for trim, which is mince scally out of the East,
which is well sung story. But you know, we've gone
(04:04):
up another dollar a kilo for instance about October last year,
sitting it just over twenty four dollars a kilo on average,
so not cheap at the supermarket Jamien as you say
it was, you know, or historically it's been a real
good go to red meat option because it is very
versatile in terms of what you can do with it.
But now it's not really that cheap option. And if
(04:25):
we look back to you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
we were sitting you know, between fourteen and sixteen dollars
a kilo. So that's more than just food inflation. It's
driven by those export prices and the competition that that
creates for US as an exporting nation.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So how are consumers changing their buying habits because let's
face it, or lambs not cheap, far from it, but
we do have those two cheaper options chicken or pork.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, that's right. So chicken and pork are kind of
steady as she goes, Jamie. You know, they've increased slowly
over over many years, but they are the cheaper protein.
And I think what happens, you know, when we start
to see the red meat prices rise, is that, you know,
consumers will often start to switch down to some of
these cheaper white proteins like pork and chicken breasts, which
(05:12):
are sort of sitting close to that fifteen to seventeen
dollars the kilo range in the supermarket, for example. But
the other thing that happens is it's also expensive. If
we think about it in food service, with your quick
service restaurants such as McDonald's KFC, they end up kind
of offering up more chicken options, more budget options for consumers,
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and so without realizing that, we'll see you know, more
and more of that being consumed because it's expensive for
everyone in the supply chain and then the value chain
when it comes to that consumer side.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
So it's just an.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Interesting time with our wonderful red meat price for our farmers.
But those flow on effects that we might start to
see from those high prices on the consumption side.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So Jen Corkram with US Rabobanks red meat experts. Yeah, look,
this is great news on the export front, not so
flash at all on the home front. And I think
you refer to it as sticker shock when you go
along to the supermarket and you see mints at twenty
four bucks a quilo, When, though, Jen, are we going
to see like price resistance and consumer or the consumer
(06:20):
changing his or her behavior at what price point? Does
this happen? Particularly in the US?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, And this is the question, isn't it globally right now?
Because we'd met prices are really high across the globe
because of this whole lack of supply situation. But interestingly,
in the United States, Jamie, the demand has actually been
holding up for beef, especially a lot firmer and stronger
than what you know, we might have expected. So, you know,
(06:47):
my colleagues in the US have talked about the fact
that the U s beef demand has been a lot
more resilient than what you know, we may have expected
so far, at least even with these record prices, And
that kind of tells us that consumers aren't quite kind
of walking away from beef at this point, but they're
kind of changing within the category what that purchasing, so
looking to more of that burger kind of thing, which
(07:08):
is great for his own because it's that important trim
that goes in with the fetty meat that they need
for burgers, but also choosing different categories within the value
of those other cuts as well. So that's happending in
the US. But you know, one thing we often talk
about is that high prices can be the cure for
high prices. So at some stage, you know, we think
(07:28):
that there will be a point where the consumer says,
you know, this is getting enough for me, and that
might just naturally start to let things level out. Remembering
that we are at farmgate price level sitting, you know,
anywhere between fifty and sort of sixty or seventy percent
above the five year average across all cohorts of kettle
right now, so we've got a you know, we're at
a high point, and even if things come back in a
(07:50):
little bit, Jamie, I think it's still pretty positive of
the next you know, a couple of years at least
in terms of that global demand for beef.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Jen Cochran out of Ravobank out Hamilton, thanks for your
time today in the country. Always appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Thanks Ami.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Fourteen after twelve, Jen, thank you beef. We're talking about
beef mints there. Mind you Lambs even less affordable or
it will be. I see Murray Roland Rowland's Murray thank
you for sending me a story online about the Colgate,
Saleyards and Canterbury record breaking day lambs market toppings four
(08:33):
hundred and sixty dollars. That'd be big thumpers obviously, but
my goodness, that is a lot of money, isn't it?
Four hundred and sixty dollars for a lamb? As was it?
Jane Smith said on yesterday's show. It's not that long ago.
And I remember the Federated Farmer's campaign from about two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. They called it
(08:55):
T one fifty. They wanted lamb to get to one fifty.
We thought that was pie in the sky. I should
actually ring my old Mark Warren up in Hawk's Bay.
Some people say Mark's as nutty as a fruitcake. He's
just a visionary, That's what I'd describe him. As he's
talking about the fifteen hundred dollars lamb. Mark. If you're
(09:15):
listening tech, give me a text and we might even
have time for a yarn for you. Today four hundred
and sixty dollars lambs sold and Canterbury huge, huge money.
Now the breaking news is Richie Mwanga has been recalled
to the All Blacks as a replacement for Billy Proctor
on the South African tour. So that makes how many
(09:37):
first five's we got over there? Ruben loved Gee was
good yesterday, wasn't he? Ruben Love Damien, Damien Mackenzie. Although
he's probably going to be the fullback. Oden Barrett, Josh
Jacob and Richie makes five. I hope it doesn't strangle
the opportunities that Josh Jacob's going to get. He he
(09:58):
came on and looked pretty good in his replacement an
All Black debut yesterday, didn't he? Right up next, Joe Luxton,
she's been crooked literally and I know a lot of
people I've heard either Duplessy Allen talking about this being
crook for four to six weeks. That's a terrible flu illness, virus,
whatever you want to call it going around. Well, Joe
(10:19):
Luxton's had that. Haven't been out of chat to her
for ages I wonder, and I'm not holding my breath,
whether she's got any AGG policy. Does Labor actually need
to come up with any policy? Should they just try
and sleep walk to victory with the Opportunity Party? We
might ask Joe that next on the country.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I'm right out of fa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, you trying to ginin down?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Try me underground mo Enjolment.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She is Labour's agriculture spokesperson. Her name is Joe Luxton
and I've been waiting for months and months and months
for Joe's AGG policy. She's been a bit crop recently. Joe,
I think you've been avoiding me, But I think perhaps
on second thoughts, your tactic you're and Chippy's tactic of
doing nothing might pay off. Just let the opposition self destruct.
(11:34):
Maybe that's a master plan. Was that the master plan
all along?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Oh? Can you tell me? It's always nice to talk
to you and I'd never ever avoid talking to you,
you know that, great mate. Here's been no master plan here,
but yeah, things have been pretty interesting in the political
world at this the last couple of days, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Indeed they have. Do you buy into my theory? And
I've been thinking about this for the us month six
weeks that if the Opportunity Party gets past five percent,
and you have to say now that every chance of
doing that, it is game over. It will be a
change of government and will have the four headed monster?
Or will we or is Chippy just going to kick
to party Mari to touch.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Hey, it's an interesting idea that you've got there. But
we're campaigning on two ticks labor. If people want to
change the government and we're asking for the two ticks
for labor. We're not too sure what will happen with
other parties. You never know until election and then those
of coalition type agreements and conversations will happen then.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So I hate to ask Joe Luxton, but when are
you actually coming out with your ag policy because I
think your manifesto is going to be released very shortly
before the election because we're in the countdown mode now,
so I'm really interested to you know, what you're going
to do about emission's targets, what you're going to do
about agriculture and the ets. So those are questions that
(12:57):
I want answered.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Will they will be answered in due course? Damy, I
promise you you know the manifesto, you know will be
coming out soon, but it's not different to any other
election cycle. Often policies aren't released until that. We're a
campaign that proper period, so you know, it's not too
to similar to other campaigns where we haven't released policy yet,
(13:21):
and we haven't released all policy yet either. I mean
there's there's been several policies that have announced. You know,
small business policy is a really great policy. Lots of others.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Wow, hang on, Joe, it's a really great policy unless
you want to buy some new plants or equipment.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, but not every farmer and every business buys new
plant and your equipment every year. So this is a
good policy. That as a good policy because it increases
you know, right, we increase it from one ten thousand
straight away, so rather than waiting to have it for
it to appreciate over time. And that's got to be
a good thing for small business.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
As well as.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Where you know, if you have turnover of ten million
dollars or less and the companies are going to have
to pay you with fifteen working days if they owe
you twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Or less, and it's got to be a yeah, no,
I agree with you that in a utopian sort of world.
That would be wonderful. Get the big companies who do
use often smaller businesses as their own banks. But it's
going to be almost impossible to police. I would have
thought it's pie in the sky sort of policy, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No? I disagree.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Why how are you going to make I don't know,
let's just throw out of Fonterra. How are you going
to make Fonterra pay people within fifteen days their suppliers.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Because these sorts of things are going to be legislated for.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I still don't buy it.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Well, I mean you're just going to have to wait
and see, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Jamie Hey, Joe Luxton always good to catch up, and
you know, just give me a ring, text me as
soon as you've got some egg policy and I'm going
to take you straight to air.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Sounds good?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
All right, thank you, Joe. I'm not sure whether we're
more or less enlightened after that Opportunity Party. Here's someone
texting in and keep your text coming in on five
double oh nine? Are you going to get the Opportunity
Party to talk about its agg policy? In fact, texter
that's a good text. I will I might even be
(15:19):
able to do it tomorrow when I'm in Auckland, because
the deputy of this Hla Wong is of course the leader,
but the deputy leader is Daniel Ebb. He's a guy
I've had a wee bit to do with over the
years because he does pr for the primary sector for
a lot of big agg companies, so I sort of
know him reasonably well through dealings over the past few years.
(15:41):
I might see if I can get Daniel while I'm
in Auckland tomorrow. Joe, you were out of touch. As
a farming business, we do buy new assets every year. Yeah,
I know. I mean I didn't want to pick Joe
up on this, but I should have. But she was
talking about how important cash flowers, and this invests allowance
which labor are proposing to get rid of. It is
(16:03):
a great incentive and it's a good way for farmers
and small businesses to update plant and equipment and able
to write off not only their first year depreciation but
also I think, what was it a twenty percent investment
allowance as well, So the depreciation can often be quite high.
For instance, on vehicles, you might be claiming, I don't know,
(16:24):
forty to fifty sixty percent of the cost of an
asset in year one. It makes a huge difference to
cash flow. Jamie Muwanga selection sends a poor message to
those on the side South African tour.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I e.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He chose to leave New Zealand now gets referential treatment
from Sharon. Kind of agree with you, Sharon. I'm keen
to see Reuben Love stay in the driver's seat for
this series. You'd have to say he started his All
Black career off very well. He was great against who
do we play the other night half strength Sharks team.
(17:01):
He was really good in that match, only missed one
kick off the kicking tea. He's the new face of rugby.
His delivery is so snappy to his outside backs. So
we'll see what they do with Richie Mwanga. As I said,
I hope Josh Jocom, a young guy learning his trade
coming down to play for US Irelanders next years, doesn't
get shoved to the back of the queue. I can't
(17:27):
read that one out. I'll go to a break and
I'll pre read some of these texts. It's the trouble
with trying to read them live. It's a bit of
a disaster waiting to happen. Look up up next. We
missed him yesterday because of the lux and thing and
what a dog's breakfast that was In the end, Campbell Parker,
chief executive of derry en Z. Breakthrough research from Lincoln
(17:51):
University on plantain reducing emissions that's up next.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Where you can go. You don't know their lives.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We've seen.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Fire and energygi my have have heaven oil.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Welcome back to the country. Let's dodge politics for a while.
Shall we on the country or I don't know if
we can totally. Because Campbell Parker joins us. He's the
chief executive of darien Z and they want to talk
about their election priorities. But to get away from politics
for a while, Campbell, let's talk about this latest Lincoln
University trial on plantain and pastures.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Is this a breakthrough well, because it's part of the
border plantain program that's been running for the last since
twenty twenty one, and the specific research that was announced
last week is the four year trial at Lincoln University
which is part of that program. And look that the
results are really encouraging. Showed up to thirty three percent
reduction in nitrogen leeching with plantain at various rates within
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the sward and it is it was very encouraging because it's,
you know, one of the tools that's in the toolbox
that farmers can consider. It's also recognized by the majority
of the councils.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now, now, let me go back to my days as
a farmer. That's a lot that's the nineteen eighties, and
let me go back even further to my days at
Lincoln College and plant science one oh one. How do
you get on maintaining plantain and your pasture sword? How
long does it last? And do you need to be
using short rotation grasses with plantain to keep enough of
(19:42):
it in the sword to make these numbers work? Is
that a sensible question?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah, and it's a very good question. Back to agronomy.
You know, first and foremost it's about management practices. So
not only is the research, but it's about thirty partner
farms across the country Jamie. So there's a range of
manager practices around that. What people are finding also that
that to keep it to your direct question, sometimes putting
extra seed in with fertilizer application is how farmers and
(20:09):
those sensitive catchments are keeping the percentage levels up. Because
the persistency over time, it will come out of the
sport as well. The really encouraging piece in research is
even with lower levels, you're still getting you know, a
good correlation in terms of the reduction and nogygen. So
you know, that's been a question about how do you
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how do you fit that in with your management practices.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Direct denominations for darien Z when do they close or
when do they open?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yes, so they're open now. We've only got one farm
relected director position up this year, so Cam Henderson's up
by rotation, so they're out now and run through. I've
got the twenty first of August is when they close,
so that's what's that end of next week. And then
there are a couple of positions on our director remuneration
committee as well. We're extending that from three people to
(20:58):
four people. Are also nominations out for that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And I noticed, as I said at the beginning, Dairy
and Z has its election priorities. All industry good bodies do.
You just don't know who you're going to be dealing with.
That's part of the problem, Campbell. But I guess these
election priorities aren't going to change regardless of who is
Prime Minister.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Absolutely Jamie in the way we've shaped them up and
our headline around that is keeping dairy strong, keeps his
own strong with such an important industry, so regardless of
whoever's in power, the six priorities we've called out we
think are really important for the sector. I'm not going
to go through the mall. They're all on our website,
but the things you'd expect a couple.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Of them that I will mention.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
One around getting the RMA and the water settings right
given the topic we're talking about with plantain as well
and nitrates, so that's really important. One of the other
ones that's in there is around making sure we've still
got strong biosecurity systems given it's also bio security awareness
we're coming up as well.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, you bang on, Campbell Parker, Chief executive of darien Z.
Our borders being a maritime nation at the bottom of
the world are our absolute treasures, our wonderful geographic advantage
over many other agricultural nations around the world. Thanks for
your time, I promise, Thanks shamming good stalk. Thank you Campbell.
(22:17):
It is twenty seven away from one Yes talking about
our wonderful geographic boundaries because of our isolation the bird flu.
We're still only at two in Australia. It's going from
bad to worse and there are some unintended consequences from
the bird flu. We'll talk to Chris Russell about that
(22:38):
shortly before the end of the hour. We've just finished
like the two year old bull sales. Now we're about
to get into the yealing ones balls everywhere. And as
I said, the record price for lamb at the Colgate
sale Yards, I'm assuming that was yesterday. We'll do some
homework on that one four hundred and sixty dollars. So
(23:01):
no wonder your lamb chops, your lamb wrecks are so
expensive in the supermarket, are at your local butcher. I
did get a text back by the way from Mark Warren, sorry,
saying you nutty is a fruitcake. Mark, you're you're a visionary.
Were you looking for me, Mark Wrights and lost my number? No?
I haven't lost your number, Mark, but I will try
(23:22):
and track you down because he's dreaming and a lot
of people would say he is dreaming of a fifteen
hundred dollars lamb. But we're a third of the way
there with four hundred and sixty bucks. He's another one, Jamie,
great info replantain. One question, however, does it affect the
composition of meat and milk versus grass fed products? Well
(23:45):
as fate would have it, Texter wandering into the studio
right on queue for Rural News after the break is
Michelle Watt, who does the highest rating podcast in the
history of podcasts with darien Z. Michelle, You've just done
a podcast on plantation I have with.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Kate Francin, who's one of the head research team for
that project, and it's really interesting results and text to.
One of the questions I asked is how it affects
milk production, because of course that is a big question
of what you're going to feed your cows. How it's
going to affect things. It's worth going and having a
listen to that because we delve straight into it. And
I studied science, so be that in mind. I'll I
dive deep into number.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So you're saying, you're saying because I had agriculture and geography,
I'm thick. Is that was that the undertone of that comment? No, No,
not at all, not at all.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Remember I did a psychology degree, James. That also comes
in handy with her a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Of the time shots fire. I honestly I left science
behind because I was nearly an accountant. Nearly an accountant,
but when I was like fourteen or fifteen, I wanted
to be a for zed teacher because I thought that's
a really cool way to make living. I married one
in the end, but I couldn't be a for zed
(24:55):
teacher because I was too thick at science. I left
it behind in the fifth form.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Well, I can't do math, so you've got that, ahea.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
To me, And obviously you can't. You can't write.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You said, no one can read my writing. I can't
even read my own writing exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So up next, Michelle with Rural News. How do you
find your podcast?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Oh, head to the country on my Heart and you
can find all those podcasts on there, or just google
it and ll come up on it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Haven't you got a really good podcast coming up with
Hamish Mackay and Sam Whitelocke as well.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
So we've got a new series from farm Strong, being
farm Strong, with three great episodes in the series, but
Sam white Lot is the first one and that's out
in a week or so.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, they tell me, I think it's recorded, isn't it
It is? Yeah, it's very good. He's doing a great job.
Farm strong, Big Sam White Locke Rightio, I'll tell you
who's actually really good. I'm killing him at a time.
Here's Sam darry Gee. He's playing well for the All Blacks.
That guy got to be a starter for the Test
series against South Africa. Anyhow, Up next Michelle with Rural News,
(25:48):
we'll have a look at sports news for you. Richie
mcwang has been called over to South Africa. Chris Russell's
are Assie correspondent and we're going to talk ball with
Kellum McDonald. I'm always been.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Out to Gavernan need a favor and I only pray
when I garprayer.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm nineteen away from one new with the country very shortly.
Rural News and Sports News. Richie Muwanga has been called
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your local Isuzu utes dealer today and I'll be driving
the Isuzu m Ux seven seater out to the airport
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the afnoon. Michelle, I'm gone for a week. Auckland tomorrow,
Tarrong on Monday, Hamilton Tuesday, fonger A Wednesday, Auckland Thursday home.
I'm going to be a tired boy in a week's time.
His sport, I'm doing sport. You're doing Rural News.
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Speaker 8 (28:24):
Thanks Jarmy Jamie. Oh my gosh, we're catching It's catching
me anyway. Rural News. Perro wins big at the Cannabis
Industry Awards. Marlborough medicinal cannabis company Puro has claimed two
major honors at the twenty twenty six Cannabis Awards. The
company was named Cultivator of the Year, while co founder
and CEO Sank McFarland took out Business Leader of the Year.
(28:46):
Pero is New Zealand's largest medicinal cannabis exporter, responsible for
around ninety two percent of the country's medicinal cannabis exports.
The company reacent recently launched products into the UK under
a supply deal worth more than sixteen million dollars, and
it's targeting Germany later in this year. Now its goal
is to become the zesprie of medicinal medicinal cannabis Jamie.
(29:07):
So that's a big meaty.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Goal for them. I think you might need some medicinal cannabis.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
I think I might after that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, well where you go away and have a hut.
Don't in hail, No, don't inhale. Be like Bill Clinton
done inhale. See if I can do any better with sport.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sports on the country with Alfco invested in your farming success.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All Black's coach Dave Rennie has caught up Canniby first
five Richie Mowanga to place injured replace mid injured. It's
catching I need a puff as well to replace injured
midfielder Billy Proctor on the South African Greatest Rivalry Tour.
The thirty two year old returnee from Club Rugby and
Japan has become available through playing in the NPC, and
(29:47):
we'll travel to Johannesburg today packing fifty six tests of
experience and swimmer Erica Fairweather other good to need in
product has qualified second fastest for the two hundred is
freestyle final at the Pan Pacific Championships in California. Up
next to our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell and some of
(30:07):
the unintended consequences of the bird flow.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Me.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know those people people, Carlner.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It is all quite on the western front here in
New Zealand. Fortunately at the moment touchwood around the bird
flew just the two cases as we speak. Not so
in Australia. Let's head over there, our Ossie correspondent as
Chris Russell, Chris. Unintended consequences from the bird flu in Australia.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Yeah, now, I'll bet you I've got a bit of
information Janie, you that you and your listeners didn't didn't know.
But did you know that a badminton shuttlecock is made
from sixteen feathers, and there are only three feathers in
the left wing of a goose or a chalk, which
will actually provide those feathers. Now, something I bet you
(31:01):
didn't know. Next time it comes out in trivia, you're
going to get that answer and to be the only
one in the ruin.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Jamie Well, are badminton players under threat from the bird slough?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Well?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
The cost of the shuttlecocks that they make out of
these sixteen figures has absolutely skyro rocketed now and they're
now even thinking of going to plastic shuttlecocks, which is
anathema to these players. I'm talking about the champion players
all over the world. But you know, this mass coming
that's occurred, particularly in China, means that most of the
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poultry farms have lost all these and a dozen as thirties,
which is the sort of standard match grade shuttle cocks
used to cost about thirty to thirty five dollars. It's
now about seventy dollars. And the Great Southern Badminton Association
said that organization spends about three thousand dollars on shuttles
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every four months. So you know, so there there's an
unintended consequence of bird flu. I've learned something definitely today
I had no idea about. But as far as the
general story here, we're up to about two hundred and
fifteen cases here now, the latest cases of somewhat disturbing
because they've found Australian native birds infected. Six of them
(32:20):
I think at Wentworth, which is where the Darling River
meets the Murray, right up in the top of Victorias.
That's well inland. And the latest thing we're doing now
there's so far has been no site of any sort
of problem with any of the poultry farms. All of
the Victorian poultry farms have been order to keep all
their trucks locked up from now on, regardless of whether
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they're supposedly free range or not. That's a joke anyway,
because only five percent of the birds everyone out of
the sheds when they were free range, but now none
of them can go out of their sheds, and they're
trying desperately to solve that problem. The other thing they're doing,
Jamie and good luck with this is to vaccinate Australian
species against bird flu so that they won't catch it. Now,
(33:06):
some of those like the fairy penguins on Phillip Island,
down on Port Phillip Bay and Victoria not so difficult
because they're wandering around on the ground. Have you ever
but the thing with these vaccinations is they have to
all these animals have to be vaccinated twice. Now have
you ever tried to catch a galar in full flight, vaccinated,
let it go, and then find the same galar two
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weeks later to vaccinated again. How are they doing that?
I have no idea, but that sounds like a process
and sounds like something that's unlikely to have a massive impact.
I would have thought, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Let's just finish on a new survey which has suggested
the National Party, which is sort of your rural Aussie Party,
may lose every seat to one nation. This is Pauline
Hanson's outfit. Is the Bush as you call it, universally
embraces Pauline. I can't quite get my head around embracing Pauline.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
Yes, well, I mean they have total the National Party
has lost the color of its card really in terms
of in terms of what's going to happen in the
Victorian elections in particular, and the Nationals in fact would
be left between zero and two seats in the Federal
House of Representatives if an election was held now, if
you believe the polls, one nation is leading in almost
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every regional and rural electric in the country. And this
demos AU modeling, based on responses from ten thousand voters,
projects that one Nation is ahead in thirty nine of
the forty one seats classified as rural or regional and
on course for a hung parliament with Labor if an
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election was held now. So down to Victoria, they're saying
that definitely, down in Victoria they can take all the
rural seats, which is eight of the main regional seats
down there, five held by the Coalition and one held
by Nation. And you know Queensland again, of course they've
always been stuck in Queensland. But the primary vote in
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Queensland is now at thirty four percent and leads in
twenty of the state thirty seats. There are only thirty
seats in the Queensland Parliament. Twenty of them one nation
is ahead. So this is a phenomenon. Now, I think
people this is a certain amount of this is knee jeck.
They're so disappointed with our current government. They're so disappointed
(35:26):
with the response they getting out of the opposition. Whether
that translate actually when the chips are down and you're
walking into the polling booth, that's another question, but it held.
There's absolutely no doubt at all for what Pauline Hanson
is doing is resonating with voters, and she's on a
flyer and she's flat out in her new GENA Reinhardt
supplied little plane, flying around, making the most of it
(35:48):
while she can.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Jamie, Chris Russell, thanks for your time. We live in
a weird and wonderful world. Catch you next week, No worries,
nine away from on. Thanks Chris.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Up.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Next, we're going to wrap the country talking ball with
hellm mcdonaghook.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
And there was there a REFI from me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Favor. Let's head to God's own farming province, Southland. There
we find Callum McDonald. He is PGG wrights In's national
genetics manager. Now callum, the two year old bull season
selling season. I've got too many seasons in there, but
this is live radio. Let's continue on has finished. I
(36:28):
didn't realize that you went from the two year olds
to the one year olds this spring. Now here's my
question for you. Why would you sell a bull as
a yearling like the spring rather than keep it a
bit longer and get the big bucks for the two
year olds? That is that a sensible question? Good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Oh yeah, here, young Jamie, Yeah, nowhere. Obviously you're coming
off the back of a pretty successful two year old
selling season, which you know, obviously on the back of
you know, b prices and that they were pretty cool
to see. And yeah, but no, straight back into the
yealing sales, which you know start at the end of
this month sort of up north and follow their way
down the country sort of ending in mid October. But yeah,
(37:10):
there's a way sell balls. The stummy years sort of
a lot of them go into the beef industry with
hiper mating options and stuff like that. And then obviously
beef on dairy is a big, big part of what
we do now too, And yeah, there's a lot of
balls going to that side of the industry, which is,
you know, a big part of what we.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Do that is going to become more and more predominant,
isn't it to the what did you call it? The
beef on dairy? Because the barbiecarf issue was one that
won't go away, so the more beef animals we can
get out of our dairy cows, the better, right.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, and we're seeing a lot of those
animals obviously the deer farmers are into it at the moment. Yeah,
you know, we can get some beef animals through the
dairy industry. It's it's yeah, it's good for the whole
beef industry.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So we've seen record prices for the two year old
bulls on the selling season, that's what late autumn early
winter are we likely to see records broken for the yealings.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
I mean, we do have record yealing prices and stuff
like that, so, I mean it would be nice to see.
And I think it's like everything. If the balls there,
then you know the punters will follow them and pay
pay for what they think is they're worth. But yeah, certainly,
just that buoyancy and the beef industry is propping things
up at the moment. And yeah, we're going through a
bit of a purple patch which is nice to see.
(38:23):
And you know, long mate continue, will the anger spalls
again be the star of the stable.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
There's a bit of beaver thing really.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
I mean, obviously the anger cell pretty well. When we've
got Herefords, and you know, you've got all breeds that
go into the air industry. There's a few exotics nowadays,
and yeah, it's there, you know, with all the data
and stuff that's there, then there's a ball for everyone.
And yeah, you can certainly there's com many choices out there.
So that's keeping us busy in the in the next
couple of months.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Anyway, we've spoken to Gen Corkran had a Rabobank already
on the show, and the prospects for beef, despite tariffs
and all the other interference that certain people around the
world are running, that market is pretty hot and it
looks like it's going to stay that way. So that's
got to be really good for the beef industry, especially
the breeding industry.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Yeah, no, we're pretty pumped about it at the moment.
It's that short to medium looks really positive. And you know,
as I say, it's it's nice to be in the
industry at the moment. And you know, as I say,
it's just controlling what you can control, and you know,
finding those genetics that come sure certainly pleading them out there.
So it's just a matter of you're run doing their
homework and buying a ball that's going to add value
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on farm.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, we'll look forward to these spring ball yielding sales
and we'll see if we can break some more records.
Callum McDonald's national genetics manager for PGG Rights and thanks
for your time today on the Country.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
No thanks, Jamie got on your.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Callum wrapping with some one of your texts from muzz
regular text. You're too good to visit Hawks Bay Jamie.
We have Kate Kidnappers golf course. I know it's magnificent.
No look, it's not on the agenda this time round.
We are doing Tarong Hamilton Fong Array. Come along and
join us on our road show, have a beer or whatever.
Just contact gen nearest en z in my office and
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we'll see if we can get your pass or through
the draft and go. It'll be good to see you.
I'll catch you from Auckland tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Need a favor.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And I holy pray when money gaprayer? So who the
hell them out? Who the hell their my to respect
the Savior? Oh if I hol it's out the gavernan
need a favor.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I only
pray to God when I need a favor. Breaking news
on my smart watch. He's back. Richie Mwanga called into
the all black squad for South Africa series Shock Horror.
Never saw that one coming. So Dave Rennie has been
(00:57):
praying to God for a favor and maybe he's got
it at the expense of poor old Billy Proctor invalid
at home. So Richie muwang is off to South Africa.
That is breaking news for you today. It's Meat Matters
week here on the Country. We had a couple to go.
Tomorrow's show, by the way, I'm living the life of
a traveling salesman, will be coming from our Auckland studios
(01:19):
tomorrow night. We've got a big knees up celebrating one
hundred years of news talks, the'd be and we've all
been old. We've got to go. So there you go.
You got to do sometimes what you got to do.
Meat matters. We're going to kick it off with Jen
Corchran from Rabobanks. She's their red meat expert, their proteins expert.
(01:39):
Mince a long hold staple is now out of reach
for many kiwis as consumers look at chicken and pork
is an alternative source of protein and no wonder beef
mints twenty four dollars a kre low Gee, the old
mints on toast is out the back window. Hawk's actually
the best value routine now at the moment. If only
(02:01):
we would support New Zealand pork growers. But anyhow, that
is the issue we're going to discuss with Joe Luxton,
who was also with Gen Corkran. I'm getting confused. Joe
Luxton is also on the show Parl. Joe's been a
bit crook recently. She keeps putting me off and off
and off. She's promised to come on today and I'm god,
I hope she comes up with some ag policy. We're
(02:23):
less than three months out from the election. Campbell Parker
missed him yesterday, the chief executive of dry and zed
some really interesting trials around plantain. If it's in your pasture, sward,
it can do miracles almost when it comes to nitrogen
or nitrates or nitrogen emissions from ruminants or methane emissions
(02:45):
to be more correct, from ruminants. Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent.
They've got the bird flu bad in Australia. We're still
at two touchwood on that one. And why is Pauline
Hanson ruling the bush? Callum MacDonald will join us talking
a wee bit of ball as well. It is all
on the country.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Meat Matters Week on the Country with PGG Rights and
Livestock delivering trusted advice and nationwide livestock expertise.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Welcome back to the country. We're not mincing our words
on the show today. It's Meat Matters Week and here's
an expert in the field. She is Rabobanks red meat
expert and from my poor pun on mincing words, Jen Corchran,
let's talk about mince. It used to be the domain
of the price conscious no longer.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, mintz is more expensive right than
it's ever been. And I think we might have touched
on this sometime last year when we had a check
here too, and you know, things are still still moving
in that space, and it is really driven by that
demand for trim, which is mince scally out of the East,
which is well sung story. But you know, we've gone
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up another dollar a kilo for instance about October last year,
sitting it just over twenty four dollars a kilo on average,
so not cheap at the supermarket Jamien as you say
it was, you know, or historically it's been a real
good go to red meat option because it is very
versatile in terms of what you can do with it.
But now it's not really that cheap option. And if
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we look back to you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
we were sitting you know, between fourteen and sixteen dollars
a kilo. So that's more than just food inflation. It's
driven by those export prices and the competition that that
creates for US as an exporting nation.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So how are consumers changing their buying habits because let's
face it, or lambs not cheap, far from it, but
we do have those two cheaper options chicken or pork.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, that's right. So chicken and pork are kind of
steady as she goes, Jamie. You know, they've increased slowly
over over many years, but they are the cheaper protein.
And I think what happens, you know, when we start
to see the red meat prices rise, is that, you know,
consumers will often start to switch down to some of
these cheaper white proteins like pork and chicken breasts, which
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are sort of sitting close to that fifteen to seventeen
dollars the kilo range in the supermarket, for example. But
the other thing that happens is it's also expensive. If
we think about it in food service, with your quick
service restaurants such as McDonald's KFC, they end up kind
of offering up more chicken options, more budget options for consumers,
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and so without realizing that, we'll see you know, more
and more of that being consumed because it's expensive for
everyone in the supply chain and then the value chain
when it comes to that consumer side.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
So it's just an.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Interesting time with our wonderful red meat price for our farmers.
But those flow on effects that we might start to
see from those high prices on the consumption side.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So Jen Corkram with US Rabobanks red meat experts. Yeah, look,
this is great news on the export front, not so
flash at all on the home front. And I think
you refer to it as sticker shock when you go
along to the supermarket and you see mints at twenty
four bucks a quilo, When, though, Jen, are we going
to see like price resistance and consumer or the consumer
(06:20):
changing his or her behavior at what price point? Does
this happen? Particularly in the US?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, And this is the question, isn't it globally right now?
Because we'd met prices are really high across the globe
because of this whole lack of supply situation. But interestingly,
in the United States, Jamie, the demand has actually been
holding up for beef, especially a lot firmer and stronger
than what you know, we might have expected. So, you know,
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my colleagues in the US have talked about the fact
that the U s beef demand has been a lot
more resilient than what you know, we may have expected
so far, at least even with these record prices, And
that kind of tells us that consumers aren't quite kind
of walking away from beef at this point, but they're
kind of changing within the category what that purchasing, so
looking to more of that burger kind of thing, which
(07:08):
is great for his own because it's that important trim
that goes in with the fetty meat that they need
for burgers, but also choosing different categories within the value
of those other cuts as well. So that's happending in
the US. But you know, one thing we often talk
about is that high prices can be the cure for
high prices. So at some stage, you know, we think
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that there will be a point where the consumer says,
you know, this is getting enough for me, and that
might just naturally start to let things level out. Remembering
that we are at farmgate price level sitting, you know,
anywhere between fifty and sort of sixty or seventy percent
above the five year average across all cohorts of kettle
right now, so we've got a you know, we're at
a high point, and even if things come back in a
(07:50):
little bit, Jamie, I think it's still pretty positive of
the next you know, a couple of years at least
in terms of that global demand for beef.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Jen Cochran out of Ravobank out Hamilton, thanks for your
time today in the country. Always appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Thanks Ami.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Fourteen after twelve, Jen, thank you beef. We're talking about
beef mints there. Mind you Lambs even less affordable or
it will be. I see Murray Roland Rowland's Murray thank
you for sending me a story online about the Colgate,
Saleyards and Canterbury record breaking day lambs market toppings four
(08:33):
hundred and sixty dollars. That'd be big thumpers obviously, but
my goodness, that is a lot of money, isn't it?
Four hundred and sixty dollars for a lamb? As was it?
Jane Smith said on yesterday's show. It's not that long ago.
And I remember the Federated Farmer's campaign from about two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. They called it
(08:55):
T one fifty. They wanted lamb to get to one fifty.
We thought that was pie in the sky. I should
actually ring my old Mark Warren up in Hawk's Bay.
Some people say Mark's as nutty as a fruitcake. He's
just a visionary, That's what I'd describe him. As he's
talking about the fifteen hundred dollars lamb. Mark. If you're
(09:15):
listening tech, give me a text and we might even
have time for a yarn for you. Today four hundred
and sixty dollars lambs sold and Canterbury huge, huge money.
Now the breaking news is Richie Mwanga has been recalled
to the All Blacks as a replacement for Billy Proctor
on the South African tour. So that makes how many
(09:37):
first five's we got over there? Ruben loved Gee was
good yesterday, wasn't he? Ruben Love Damien, Damien Mackenzie. Although
he's probably going to be the fullback. Oden Barrett, Josh
Jacob and Richie makes five. I hope it doesn't strangle
the opportunities that Josh Jacob's going to get. He he
(09:58):
came on and looked pretty good in his replacement an
All Black debut yesterday, didn't he? Right up next, Joe Luxton,
she's been crooked literally and I know a lot of
people I've heard either Duplessy Allen talking about this being
crook for four to six weeks. That's a terrible flu illness, virus,
whatever you want to call it going around. Well, Joe
(10:19):
Luxton's had that. Haven't been out of chat to her
for ages I wonder, and I'm not holding my breath,
whether she's got any AGG policy. Does Labor actually need
to come up with any policy? Should they just try
and sleep walk to victory with the Opportunity Party? We
might ask Joe that next on the country.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I'm right out of fa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, you trying to ginin down?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Try me underground mo Enjolment.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She is Labour's agriculture spokesperson. Her name is Joe Luxton
and I've been waiting for months and months and months
for Joe's AGG policy. She's been a bit crop recently. Joe,
I think you've been avoiding me, But I think perhaps
on second thoughts, your tactic you're and Chippy's tactic of
doing nothing might pay off. Just let the opposition self destruct.
(11:34):
Maybe that's a master plan. Was that the master plan
all along?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Oh? Can you tell me? It's always nice to talk
to you and I'd never ever avoid talking to you,
you know that, great mate. Here's been no master plan here,
but yeah, things have been pretty interesting in the political
world at this the last couple of days, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Indeed they have. Do you buy into my theory? And
I've been thinking about this for the us month six
weeks that if the Opportunity Party gets past five percent,
and you have to say now that every chance of
doing that, it is game over. It will be a
change of government and will have the four headed monster?
Or will we or is Chippy just going to kick
to party Mari to touch.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Hey, it's an interesting idea that you've got there. But
we're campaigning on two ticks labor. If people want to
change the government and we're asking for the two ticks
for labor. We're not too sure what will happen with
other parties. You never know until election and then those
of coalition type agreements and conversations will happen then.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So I hate to ask Joe Luxton, but when are
you actually coming out with your ag policy because I
think your manifesto is going to be released very shortly
before the election because we're in the countdown mode now,
so I'm really interested to you know, what you're going
to do about emission's targets, what you're going to do
about agriculture and the ets. So those are questions that
(12:57):
I want answered.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Will they will be answered in due course? Damy, I
promise you you know the manifesto, you know will be
coming out soon, but it's not different to any other
election cycle. Often policies aren't released until that. We're a
campaign that proper period, so you know, it's not too
to similar to other campaigns where we haven't released policy yet,
(13:21):
and we haven't released all policy yet either. I mean
there's there's been several policies that have announced. You know,
small business policy is a really great policy. Lots of others.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Wow, hang on, Joe, it's a really great policy unless
you want to buy some new plants or equipment.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, but not every farmer and every business buys new
plant and your equipment every year. So this is a
good policy. That as a good policy because it increases
you know, right, we increase it from one ten thousand
straight away, so rather than waiting to have it for
it to appreciate over time. And that's got to be
a good thing for small business.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
As well as.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Where you know, if you have turnover of ten million
dollars or less and the companies are going to have
to pay you with fifteen working days if they owe
you twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Or less, and it's got to be a yeah, no,
I agree with you that in a utopian sort of world.
That would be wonderful. Get the big companies who do
use often smaller businesses as their own banks. But it's
going to be almost impossible to police. I would have
thought it's pie in the sky sort of policy, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No? I disagree.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Why how are you going to make I don't know,
let's just throw out of Fonterra. How are you going
to make Fonterra pay people within fifteen days their suppliers.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Because these sorts of things are going to be legislated for.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I still don't buy it.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Well, I mean you're just going to have to wait
and see, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Jamie Hey, Joe Luxton always good to catch up, and
you know, just give me a ring, text me as
soon as you've got some egg policy and I'm going
to take you straight to air.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Sounds good?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
All right, thank you, Joe. I'm not sure whether we're
more or less enlightened after that Opportunity Party. Here's someone
texting in and keep your text coming in on five
double oh nine? Are you going to get the Opportunity
Party to talk about its agg policy? In fact, texter
that's a good text. I will I might even be
(15:19):
able to do it tomorrow when I'm in Auckland, because
the deputy of this Hla Wong is of course the leader,
but the deputy leader is Daniel Ebb. He's a guy
I've had a wee bit to do with over the
years because he does pr for the primary sector for
a lot of big agg companies, so I sort of
know him reasonably well through dealings over the past few years.
(15:41):
I might see if I can get Daniel while I'm
in Auckland tomorrow. Joe, you were out of touch. As
a farming business, we do buy new assets every year. Yeah,
I know. I mean I didn't want to pick Joe
up on this, but I should have. But she was
talking about how important cash flowers, and this invests allowance
which labor are proposing to get rid of. It is
(16:03):
a great incentive and it's a good way for farmers
and small businesses to update plant and equipment and able
to write off not only their first year depreciation but
also I think, what was it a twenty percent investment
allowance as well, So the depreciation can often be quite high.
For instance, on vehicles, you might be claiming, I don't know,
(16:24):
forty to fifty sixty percent of the cost of an
asset in year one. It makes a huge difference to
cash flow. Jamie Muwanga selection sends a poor message to
those on the side South African tour.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I e.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He chose to leave New Zealand now gets referential treatment
from Sharon. Kind of agree with you, Sharon. I'm keen
to see Reuben Love stay in the driver's seat for
this series. You'd have to say he started his All
Black career off very well. He was great against who
do we play the other night half strength Sharks team.
(17:01):
He was really good in that match, only missed one
kick off the kicking tea. He's the new face of rugby.
His delivery is so snappy to his outside backs. So
we'll see what they do with Richie Mwanga. As I said,
I hope Josh Jocom, a young guy learning his trade
coming down to play for US Irelanders next years, doesn't
get shoved to the back of the queue. I can't
(17:27):
read that one out. I'll go to a break and
I'll pre read some of these texts. It's the trouble
with trying to read them live. It's a bit of
a disaster waiting to happen. Look up up next. We
missed him yesterday because of the lux and thing and
what a dog's breakfast that was In the end, Campbell Parker,
chief executive of derry en Z. Breakthrough research from Lincoln
(17:51):
University on plantain reducing emissions that's up next.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Where you can go. You don't know their lives.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We've seen.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Fire and energygi my have have heaven oil.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Welcome back to the country. Let's dodge politics for a while.
Shall we on the country or I don't know if
we can totally. Because Campbell Parker joins us. He's the
chief executive of darien Z and they want to talk
about their election priorities. But to get away from politics
for a while, Campbell, let's talk about this latest Lincoln
University trial on plantain and pastures.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Is this a breakthrough well, because it's part of the
border plantain program that's been running for the last since
twenty twenty one, and the specific research that was announced
last week is the four year trial at Lincoln University
which is part of that program. And look that the
results are really encouraging. Showed up to thirty three percent
reduction in nitrogen leeching with plantain at various rates within
(19:11):
the sward and it is it was very encouraging because it's,
you know, one of the tools that's in the toolbox
that farmers can consider. It's also recognized by the majority
of the councils.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now, now, let me go back to my days as
a farmer. That's a lot that's the nineteen eighties, and
let me go back even further to my days at
Lincoln College and plant science one oh one. How do
you get on maintaining plantain and your pasture sword? How
long does it last? And do you need to be
using short rotation grasses with plantain to keep enough of
(19:42):
it in the sword to make these numbers work? Is
that a sensible question?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah, and it's a very good question. Back to agronomy.
You know, first and foremost it's about management practices. So
not only is the research, but it's about thirty partner
farms across the country Jamie. So there's a range of
manager practices around that. What people are finding also that
that to keep it to your direct question, sometimes putting
extra seed in with fertilizer application is how farmers and
(20:09):
those sensitive catchments are keeping the percentage levels up. Because
the persistency over time, it will come out of the
sport as well. The really encouraging piece in research is
even with lower levels, you're still getting you know, a
good correlation in terms of the reduction and nogygen. So
you know, that's been a question about how do you
(20:29):
how do you fit that in with your management practices.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Direct denominations for darien Z when do they close or
when do they open?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yes, so they're open now. We've only got one farm
relected director position up this year, so Cam Henderson's up
by rotation, so they're out now and run through. I've
got the twenty first of August is when they close,
so that's what's that end of next week. And then
there are a couple of positions on our director remuneration
committee as well. We're extending that from three people to
(20:58):
four people. Are also nominations out for that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And I noticed, as I said at the beginning, Dairy
and Z has its election priorities. All industry good bodies do.
You just don't know who you're going to be dealing with.
That's part of the problem, Campbell. But I guess these
election priorities aren't going to change regardless of who is
Prime Minister.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Absolutely Jamie in the way we've shaped them up and
our headline around that is keeping dairy strong, keeps his
own strong with such an important industry, so regardless of
whoever's in power, the six priorities we've called out we
think are really important for the sector. I'm not going
to go through the mall. They're all on our website,
but the things you'd expect a couple.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Of them that I will mention.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
One around getting the RMA and the water settings right
given the topic we're talking about with plantain as well
and nitrates, so that's really important. One of the other
ones that's in there is around making sure we've still
got strong biosecurity systems given it's also bio security awareness
we're coming up as well.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, you bang on, Campbell Parker, Chief executive of darien Z.
Our borders being a maritime nation at the bottom of
the world are our absolute treasures, our wonderful geographic advantage
over many other agricultural nations around the world. Thanks for
your time, I promise, Thanks shamming good stalk. Thank you Campbell.
(22:17):
It is twenty seven away from one Yes talking about
our wonderful geographic boundaries because of our isolation the bird flu.
We're still only at two in Australia. It's going from
bad to worse and there are some unintended consequences from
the bird flu. We'll talk to Chris Russell about that
(22:38):
shortly before the end of the hour. We've just finished
like the two year old bull sales. Now we're about
to get into the yealing ones balls everywhere. And as
I said, the record price for lamb at the Colgate
sale Yards, I'm assuming that was yesterday. We'll do some
homework on that one four hundred and sixty dollars. So
(23:01):
no wonder your lamb chops, your lamb wrecks are so
expensive in the supermarket, are at your local butcher. I
did get a text back by the way from Mark Warren, sorry,
saying you nutty is a fruitcake. Mark, you're you're a visionary.
Were you looking for me, Mark Wrights and lost my number? No?
I haven't lost your number, Mark, but I will try
(23:22):
and track you down because he's dreaming and a lot
of people would say he is dreaming of a fifteen
hundred dollars lamb. But we're a third of the way
there with four hundred and sixty bucks. He's another one, Jamie,
great info replantain. One question, however, does it affect the
composition of meat and milk versus grass fed products? Well
(23:45):
as fate would have it, Texter wandering into the studio
right on queue for Rural News after the break is
Michelle Watt, who does the highest rating podcast in the
history of podcasts with darien Z. Michelle, You've just done
a podcast on plantation I have with.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Kate Francin, who's one of the head research team for
that project, and it's really interesting results and text to.
One of the questions I asked is how it affects
milk production, because of course that is a big question
of what you're going to feed your cows. How it's
going to affect things. It's worth going and having a
listen to that because we delve straight into it. And
I studied science, so be that in mind. I'll I
dive deep into number.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So you're saying, you're saying because I had agriculture and geography,
I'm thick. Is that was that the undertone of that comment? No, No,
not at all, not at all.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Remember I did a psychology degree, James. That also comes
in handy with her a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Of the time shots fire. I honestly I left science
behind because I was nearly an accountant. Nearly an accountant,
but when I was like fourteen or fifteen, I wanted
to be a for zed teacher because I thought that's
a really cool way to make living. I married one
in the end, but I couldn't be a for zed
(24:55):
teacher because I was too thick at science. I left
it behind in the fifth form.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Well, I can't do math, so you've got that, ahea.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
To me, And obviously you can't. You can't write.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You said, no one can read my writing. I can't
even read my own writing exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So up next, Michelle with Rural News. How do you
find your podcast?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Oh, head to the country on my Heart and you
can find all those podcasts on there, or just google
it and ll come up on it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Haven't you got a really good podcast coming up with
Hamish Mackay and Sam Whitelocke as well.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
So we've got a new series from farm Strong, being
farm Strong, with three great episodes in the series, but
Sam white Lot is the first one and that's out
in a week or so.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, they tell me, I think it's recorded, isn't it
It is? Yeah, it's very good. He's doing a great job.
Farm strong, Big Sam White Locke Rightio, I'll tell you
who's actually really good. I'm killing him at a time.
Here's Sam darry Gee. He's playing well for the All Blacks.
That guy got to be a starter for the Test
series against South Africa. Anyhow, Up next Michelle with Rural News,
(25:48):
we'll have a look at sports news for you. Richie
mcwang has been called over to South Africa. Chris Russell's
are Assie correspondent and we're going to talk ball with
Kellum McDonald. I'm always been.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Out to Gavernan need a favor and I only pray
when I garprayer.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm nineteen away from one new with the country very shortly.
Rural News and Sports News. Richie Muwanga has been called
over to South Africa's surprise surprise. Now you only pray
to God when I need a favor. I'm going to
do you a favor. I'm going to give you a
heads up about driving the new Isuzu Mux, the seventh seater.
I've been doing it for a while now and it
(26:32):
is a great ride. It's seven seats as I said,
so the family sorted. If you've winned the family like
I haven't kicked them to touch in terms of growing. Oh,
I don't mean kicking them to touch. They're always after something, Michelle.
You can obviously fit seven of them in there, or
you can fold down the seats like I do and
(26:52):
fit in heaps and heaps of golf clubs. Three liter
turbo diesel under the bonnet. Genuine grunt when you need it,
DNA the truck tuck truck, truck tough. I knew i'd
struggle with that three and a half ton towing capacity.
Mux handles everything without breaking a sweat. But what I
like about it is it doesn't feel like a compromise.
(27:14):
You get the space and comfort of a proper, proper
family suv, but it's built, as I said, truck tough
enough to handle Kiwi conditions on the road, off the road, towing,
weekend trips, the daily grind. It just gets on with it.
Right now, the good folk at Isuzu have got a
fantastic deal on every new m Ux comes with a
six year warranty, six years, three years service plan included
(27:35):
plus right at the moment, you'll get three months to
third payments too. If you haven't driven one yet, get
into your local Isuzu Utes dealer and have a go.
Come in and see Calvin here in Dunedin with bloke.
I know you'll be pleasantly surprised Isuzu Mux. Talk to
your local Isuzu utes dealer today and I'll be driving
the Isuzu m Ux seven seater out to the airport
(27:59):
the afnoon. Michelle, I'm gone for a week. Auckland tomorrow,
Tarrong on Monday, Hamilton Tuesday, fonger A Wednesday, Auckland Thursday home.
I'm going to be a tired boy in a week's time.
His sport, I'm doing sport. You're doing Rural News.
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Speaker 8 (28:24):
Thanks Jarmy Jamie. Oh my gosh, we're catching It's catching
me anyway. Rural News. Perro wins big at the Cannabis
Industry Awards. Marlborough medicinal cannabis company Puro has claimed two
major honors at the twenty twenty six Cannabis Awards. The
company was named Cultivator of the Year, while co founder
and CEO Sank McFarland took out Business Leader of the Year.
(28:46):
Pero is New Zealand's largest medicinal cannabis exporter, responsible for
around ninety two percent of the country's medicinal cannabis exports.
The company reacent recently launched products into the UK under
a supply deal worth more than sixteen million dollars, and
it's targeting Germany later in this year. Now its goal
is to become the zesprie of medicinal medicinal cannabis Jamie.
(29:07):
So that's a big meaty.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Goal for them. I think you might need some medicinal cannabis.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
I think I might after that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, well where you go away and have a hut.
Don't in hail, No, don't inhale. Be like Bill Clinton
done inhale. See if I can do any better with sport.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sports on the country with Alfco invested in your farming success.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All Black's coach Dave Rennie has caught up Canniby first
five Richie Mowanga to place injured replace mid injured. It's
catching I need a puff as well to replace injured
midfielder Billy Proctor on the South African Greatest Rivalry Tour.
The thirty two year old returnee from Club Rugby and
Japan has become available through playing in the NPC, and
(29:47):
we'll travel to Johannesburg today packing fifty six tests of
experience and swimmer Erica Fairweather other good to need in
product has qualified second fastest for the two hundred is
freestyle final at the Pan Pacific Championships in California. Up
next to our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell and some of
(30:07):
the unintended consequences of the bird flow.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Me.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know those people people, Carlner.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It is all quite on the western front here in
New Zealand. Fortunately at the moment touchwood around the bird
flew just the two cases as we speak. Not so
in Australia. Let's head over there, our Ossie correspondent as
Chris Russell, Chris. Unintended consequences from the bird flu in Australia.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Yeah, now, I'll bet you I've got a bit of
information Janie, you that you and your listeners didn't didn't know.
But did you know that a badminton shuttlecock is made
from sixteen feathers, and there are only three feathers in
the left wing of a goose or a chalk, which
will actually provide those feathers. Now, something I bet you
(31:01):
didn't know. Next time it comes out in trivia, you're
going to get that answer and to be the only
one in the ruin.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Jamie Well, are badminton players under threat from the bird slough?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Well?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
The cost of the shuttlecocks that they make out of
these sixteen figures has absolutely skyro rocketed now and they're
now even thinking of going to plastic shuttlecocks, which is
anathema to these players. I'm talking about the champion players
all over the world. But you know, this mass coming
that's occurred, particularly in China, means that most of the
(31:33):
poultry farms have lost all these and a dozen as thirties,
which is the sort of standard match grade shuttle cocks
used to cost about thirty to thirty five dollars. It's
now about seventy dollars. And the Great Southern Badminton Association
said that organization spends about three thousand dollars on shuttles
(31:57):
every four months. So you know, so there there's an
unintended consequence of bird flu. I've learned something definitely today
I had no idea about. But as far as the
general story here, we're up to about two hundred and
fifteen cases here now, the latest cases of somewhat disturbing
because they've found Australian native birds infected. Six of them
(32:20):
I think at Wentworth, which is where the Darling River
meets the Murray, right up in the top of Victorias.
That's well inland. And the latest thing we're doing now
there's so far has been no site of any sort
of problem with any of the poultry farms. All of
the Victorian poultry farms have been order to keep all
their trucks locked up from now on, regardless of whether
(32:43):
they're supposedly free range or not. That's a joke anyway,
because only five percent of the birds everyone out of
the sheds when they were free range, but now none
of them can go out of their sheds, and they're
trying desperately to solve that problem. The other thing they're doing,
Jamie and good luck with this is to vaccinate Australian
species against bird flu so that they won't catch it. Now,
(33:06):
some of those like the fairy penguins on Phillip Island,
down on Port Phillip Bay and Victoria not so difficult
because they're wandering around on the ground. Have you ever
but the thing with these vaccinations is they have to
all these animals have to be vaccinated twice. Now have
you ever tried to catch a galar in full flight, vaccinated,
let it go, and then find the same galar two
(33:27):
weeks later to vaccinated again. How are they doing that?
I have no idea, but that sounds like a process
and sounds like something that's unlikely to have a massive impact.
I would have thought, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Let's just finish on a new survey which has suggested
the National Party, which is sort of your rural Aussie Party,
may lose every seat to one nation. This is Pauline
Hanson's outfit. Is the Bush as you call it, universally
embraces Pauline. I can't quite get my head around embracing Pauline.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
Yes, well, I mean they have total the National Party
has lost the color of its card really in terms
of in terms of what's going to happen in the
Victorian elections in particular, and the Nationals in fact would
be left between zero and two seats in the Federal
House of Representatives if an election was held now, if
you believe the polls, one nation is leading in almost
(34:21):
every regional and rural electric in the country. And this
demos AU modeling, based on responses from ten thousand voters,
projects that one Nation is ahead in thirty nine of
the forty one seats classified as rural or regional and
on course for a hung parliament with Labor if an
(34:43):
election was held now. So down to Victoria, they're saying
that definitely, down in Victoria they can take all the
rural seats, which is eight of the main regional seats
down there, five held by the Coalition and one held
by Nation. And you know Queensland again, of course they've
always been stuck in Queensland. But the primary vote in
(35:06):
Queensland is now at thirty four percent and leads in
twenty of the state thirty seats. There are only thirty
seats in the Queensland Parliament. Twenty of them one nation
is ahead. So this is a phenomenon. Now, I think
people this is a certain amount of this is knee jeck.
They're so disappointed with our current government. They're so disappointed
(35:26):
with the response they getting out of the opposition. Whether
that translate actually when the chips are down and you're
walking into the polling booth, that's another question, but it held.
There's absolutely no doubt at all for what Pauline Hanson
is doing is resonating with voters, and she's on a
flyer and she's flat out in her new GENA Reinhardt
supplied little plane, flying around, making the most of it
(35:48):
while she can.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Jamie, Chris Russell, thanks for your time. We live in
a weird and wonderful world. Catch you next week, No worries,
nine away from on. Thanks Chris.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Up.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Next, we're going to wrap the country talking ball with
hellm mcdonaghook.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
And there was there a REFI from me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Favor. Let's head to God's own farming province, Southland. There
we find Callum McDonald. He is PGG wrights In's national
genetics manager. Now callum, the two year old bull season
selling season. I've got too many seasons in there, but
this is live radio. Let's continue on has finished. I
(36:28):
didn't realize that you went from the two year olds
to the one year olds this spring. Now here's my
question for you. Why would you sell a bull as
a yearling like the spring rather than keep it a
bit longer and get the big bucks for the two
year olds? That is that a sensible question? Good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Oh yeah, here, young Jamie, Yeah, nowhere. Obviously you're coming
off the back of a pretty successful two year old
selling season, which you know, obviously on the back of
you know, b prices and that they were pretty cool
to see. And yeah, but no, straight back into the
yealing sales, which you know start at the end of
this month sort of up north and follow their way
down the country sort of ending in mid October. But yeah,
(37:10):
there's a way sell balls. The stummy years sort of
a lot of them go into the beef industry with
hiper mating options and stuff like that. And then obviously
beef on dairy is a big, big part of what
we do now too, And yeah, there's a lot of
balls going to that side of the industry, which is,
you know, a big part of what we.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Do that is going to become more and more predominant,
isn't it to the what did you call it? The
beef on dairy? Because the barbiecarf issue was one that
won't go away, so the more beef animals we can
get out of our dairy cows, the better, right.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, and we're seeing a lot of those
animals obviously the deer farmers are into it at the moment. Yeah,
you know, we can get some beef animals through the
dairy industry. It's it's yeah, it's good for the whole
beef industry.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So we've seen record prices for the two year old
bulls on the selling season, that's what late autumn early
winter are we likely to see records broken for the yealings.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
I mean, we do have record yealing prices and stuff
like that, so, I mean it would be nice to see.
And I think it's like everything. If the balls there,
then you know the punters will follow them and pay
pay for what they think is they're worth. But yeah, certainly,
just that buoyancy and the beef industry is propping things
up at the moment. And yeah, we're going through a
bit of a purple patch which is nice to see.
(38:23):
And you know, long mate continue, will the anger spalls
again be the star of the stable.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
There's a bit of beaver thing really.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
I mean, obviously the anger cell pretty well. When we've
got Herefords, and you know, you've got all breeds that
go into the air industry. There's a few exotics nowadays,
and yeah, it's there, you know, with all the data
and stuff that's there, then there's a ball for everyone.
And yeah, you can certainly there's com many choices out there.
So that's keeping us busy in the in the next
couple of months.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Anyway, we've spoken to Gen Corkran had a Rabobank already
on the show, and the prospects for beef, despite tariffs
and all the other interference that certain people around the
world are running, that market is pretty hot and it
looks like it's going to stay that way. So that's
got to be really good for the beef industry, especially
the breeding industry.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Yeah, no, we're pretty pumped about it at the moment.
It's that short to medium looks really positive. And you know,
as I say, it's it's nice to be in the
industry at the moment. And you know, as I say,
it's just controlling what you can control, and you know,
finding those genetics that come sure certainly pleading them out there.
So it's just a matter of you're run doing their
homework and buying a ball that's going to add value
(39:31):
on farm.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, we'll look forward to these spring ball yielding sales
and we'll see if we can break some more records.
Callum McDonald's national genetics manager for PGG Rights and thanks
for your time today on the Country.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
No thanks, Jamie got on your.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Callum wrapping with some one of your texts from muzz
regular text. You're too good to visit Hawks Bay Jamie.
We have Kate Kidnappers golf course. I know it's magnificent.
No look, it's not on the agenda this time round.
We are doing Tarong Hamilton Fong Array. Come along and
join us on our road show, have a beer or whatever.
Just contact gen nearest en z in my office and
(40:05):
we'll see if we can get your pass or through
the draft and go. It'll be good to see you.
I'll catch you from Auckland tomorrow.
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