June 10, 2026 • 40 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Hipkins, Ray Smith, Shane Jones, Rowland Smith, Ingrid Smith, Mike Casey, Kate Acland and Kate Scott.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you're the latest from the Land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to a Suzu get demo
deals on the tough Dmax. Today it's been that.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I've got.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good afternoon news. Ellen, Welcome to the Country. We're coming
to you live from Farmland Site site see one. I
come and say hello to us Cast one thousands today
it's I'm Jamie mckaye. By the way, it's been a
huge day at Field Days because we've had the situation
and outlook for the Primary Industry's report released this morning. Raysmith,
(00:44):
director General of MPI, is patiently waiting in the wings
to tell us about this. It was going to be
our lead story, but no, Chris Hipkins was late. Everyone
was late. So Chris Chipper, you're kicking off the show.
You booted the director General of MPI. But I am
keen to get your take on the great numbers that
Raysmith released this morning. Good afternoon, by the way, great
(01:05):
to be here, Jamen.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Look at as a testament to our agricultural sector that
our numbers are looking so good.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, sixty nearly sixty.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Five billion dollars to the New Zealand economy, hundreds of
thousands of jobs across the agricultural and associated sectors and
a lot of hard work over a lot of a
long period of time to grow our exports, to really
grow the industry. All of New Zealand's benefiting from that,
and it is a testament to our farming community that
we're seeing such impressive numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now you've openly admitted that you guys got it wrong
in the last term twenty twenty to twenty twenty three.
You had to undo a lot of damage done by
that labor led government. You have appreciated that if you
get the treasury benches come November the seventh, how farmer
friendly you're going to be. I think continuity is really important.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But I I think the number one message that I've
heard from our farming community, which I think is really
really important for any government to hear, quite frankly, is
tell us what you want us to achieve. Don't always
tell us how to do it. We'll figure out the
best way of doing it. You tell us what the
goal is, You tell us what it is that we've
got to work towards, and we'll figure out the best
way of achieving that. And I think that's really good
and fair feedback.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
What do you make of the news this morning that
the Prime Minister says the government will give twenty thirty
climate change targets a good goal, but he's ruling out
paying billions for carbon credits, and apparently the number is
it's here somewhere. We could be up for a five
billion dollar bill to honor the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think there's some real questions around that because not
honoring our Paris Agreements obligations potentially actually as an impact
on trade. So if you look at the European Union
Free Trade Agreement, our export industries, our farmers have really
benefited from that. Not hitting our Paris Agreement obligations potentially
compromises that. So we've got to hear a bit more
from the government about Okay, if they're not going to
hit those targets and they're not going to buy international credits,
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how exactly are they going to meet the commitments that
we've made internationally so that our industries don't suffer because
of our failure to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Now, talking about failures, the Labor Party didn't turn up yesterday,
but you're here today, and I know we were here yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I wasn't here yesterday, but the labor ship have a No,
we've not had an empty site.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Look, there's be because Chris Bishop that was in trouble.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There was David Seymour down the back complaining that no
one was coming to talk to him because the reality
and I can't. I can understand that. But we don't
actually have a stall because I don't think people should
have to come to us. I think we should go
to them. So at field Days, we've got a big
labor contingent here and we go out and we talk
to people and we go to you. We don't wait
for you to come to us.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You had a good labor contingent at the Rural Support
Trust de Bait last night show Lux than your egg
person was there, Damien was there. I didn't catch up
with them. You were there and you were rocking your
best rural look. You had the Swan drive shirt on.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I was, you know, it's nice to be a little
bit more, a bit more informal out here in the country.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, And one more was I've been waiting and I've
been picking on poor old Joe saying when you're going
to come out with some egg policy, I might well,
I'm already an old man, but I'll be an older
man by the time you get some But you did
come out with some policy yesterday around public transport. It
was a wee bit underwhelming, if you don't mind me
saying so.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, and it's actually been very widely received.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And the big public transport.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Issue in rural communities as school buses, and so we've
got more coming on school buses that what the current
government are doing around school buses is making a hell
of a mess of it, and I think a lot
of rural communities are really upset about that because getting
their kids to and from school safely using school buses
is incredibly important to our rural communities and the current
government are messing around with that. So my reassurance to
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our rural communities will we see you and we hear
you on that, as we've got to fix the school buses.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What isn't the guts of your bus policy, if I
can call it that just subsidizing travel for urban ightes.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, I mean will primarily benefit those living in towns
and cities rather than rurally.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
What about these people out here? What's in it for
the school buses?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, there will be other policies that benefit They'm not
every policy we announce is going to benefit every community,
but in terms of buses, school buses is the big
thing that I get from our rural communities and we
are going to do some more about that.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
All right, Chris Hipkins, I'll let you go. I know
you've got to go and have lunch with the European ambassador.
He's a great bloke to Lawrence Mary for Thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Mary.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Good to see you, Jamie. And he's got a big
hand from the punters here as well, some of the
Labor Party faithful over there. So this guy was going
to kick off the show, but he I sorry, I
had to drop you to number two there. This is
Ray Smith, the Director General of MPI. You come out
with some outstanding numbers, Ray Smith, with the situation and
(05:31):
outlook for primary industries. For people out there or who
are listening live on the radio, summarize those numbers for me.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
You look, look, this is the happiest day of the
year for the primary sector because we just have this
outstanding result sixty four billion dollars six percent growth. You see,
dairy up five percent, horticulture up seven and of course
our red meat sector that was struggling a couple of
years ago, up fourteen percent, and if you look at
the overall result, we've grown twenty We've grown twenty percent
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in the last two years. That's an extra ten billion
dollars nextport earnings that we brought into the country and
that makes a massive difference to all the things that
New Zealanders want to be able to do well.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We know there's some great numbers out of dairy, we
know there's now some great numbers out of largely red meat,
but wall is starting to pick up its act. But
in some ways, the standout number for me, and we're
going to be talking to Kate Scott from Horticulture in
New Zealand, is the rise and continued rise of horticulture.
Only a few years ago, two or three years ago,
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horticulture and forestry were neck and neck. Forestry is unfortunately
going nowhere. Horticulture is up seven and a half percent
to nine billion KIW fruit leading the charge up sixteen
percent to nearly five billion.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's phenomenal result, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
And it just shows two things The world wants our
fresh products and global prices are good.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And is quite tight.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Supplying out of a range of countries for New Zealand's products.
But you're right to contrast with forestry. I mean, what's
going to happen is the kiwi fruit industry itself will
end up being bigger than the forestry sector.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's almost gone past it.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And if you look at global kiwi fruit, it's probably
about six billion, four point eight billion out of New Zealand.
And even in wine, you know, wine's been a really
tough story for the last for the last year or two,
but we continue to increase our market share worldwide to
sevenyon blanc. It's a unique product. People want to drink it,
but prices have been tough. But think about the apple
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industry too. You know, they had those massive cyclones down
through the East Coast wiped out a lot of orchards,
but it's now one point three billion and great growth
in the last year.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You made special mention this morning in your address you've
mentioned viticulture. Tough times for wine. We've got a bit
of a grape glutt out there arable also under the
pump at the moment, along with our vegetable grows.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You've got to feel for them. The arable sector.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You know, they've had a shocking run of oversupply then
bad weather, and we need those terrible farmers to be
doing anythings. So look, we think that'll come right in
the mid term. Vegetable sector. You know, vegetable sector is
large year domestic sector, and so fuel prices, fertilizer prices,
all those input costs being so high really hurt getting
those products to market for us.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
One of the other standout figures because you had some
wonderful graphs. Unfortunately graphs don't translate that well to live radio,
but you showed a growth of our primary export, and
that was the ups and downs. But this, you know,
it was interesting just looking at some of the historical blips,
the global financial crisis, COVID cyclone, Gabrielle obviously the latest one.
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We've had to well, tariffs last year, and of course
this year of the Middle.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
East crisis, and you can go all the way back
to the fifties with the Korean War, the seventies that
you know a lot of us went through with the
Royal crisis from seventy three through to seventy nine. Well
you're old enough to remember, Carlos star I do remember
Thursday was our Cali Carlos Day at home. And you know,
the thing that's really impressive about the primary sector is
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that through fifty odd years of crisis, we've continued to grow.
We've grown phenomenally actually, and we continue to accelerate our
growth rate.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And I think the reason for that, Jamie, is this
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Has a comparative advantage and growing primary products compared to
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We've got great soils.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
A moderate climate, plenty of water. Our animals eat outside,
they live outside. We don't have to grow grain to
feed animals, so we've got a relatively much more efficient
system and we are always going to be able to
outcompete and many other countries and producing protein for the world.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We've had outstanding and growth in the primary sector in
the past two years or seasons. But twenty six twenty seven,
the farming season we're just heading into is likely to
be mutant, if that's the quiet right word. By the
pure crisis the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
War, I think two things that the Middle East crisis,
you know, the uncertainty around what's going to happen next there.
We just don't need to see a bomb drop in
the wrong place and actually affect those who all supply.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We're good for the moment, but that crisis is not over.
And I think the second thing is, you know, we're
heading into this al Nino weather pattern. Whereas last year
we had massive pasture growth, this year it will flatten
out a bit through the through the warmer months and
we'll see production come off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So we're still going to do really well.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Deer is going to be great, red meat's going to
be outstanding. Look, there's a shortage. The United States is
at a seventy year low in supply of red meat,
and New Zealand's filling that spot, and it's filling China
and Europe as well.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
How good are fat Americans for us? I shouldn't say that,
should I? But I mean they like to eat. They
love their hamburgers, which is why they're wanting our lean
grinding beef, by the way. But the irony is they
are really chasing protein now because of the GLP one
weight loss strokes.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, that's right, that's right, And so you know, with
the growth and people trying to get a bit of
weight off, particularly those of us with a few years
under our belt and taking these weight loss strokes. They
want they want proteins and New Zealand produces very high
value proteins.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So they don't want to eat a lot, but they
want to.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Eat a high value protein product and that's what we
produce here in his yally.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I want a cherry pick. I think one more stat
that you're through out this morning, which was really interesting,
great address, by the way, they should film that and
put it on Netflix. It was that good ray the
middle class in the world. Seventy percent of the middle
class people in the world just down there. Does this
bloke realize that we're on live?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
He just give me his credit card? We're away, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Is that the NPI credit card right In't want drinks
are on us? Let me cherry pick. The last figure,
seventy percent of the world's middle class and the next
I don't know how many years will be in the
Indo Pacific region that's our back door.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Hey, listen, the world's population is going to grow by
another two billion people between now in twenty fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And a lot of those are going to be in India.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And so if you think about the rising, you know
these countries that were seen as developing countries.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're growing in the numbers of people that are just
like you and meat.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
You know, they want to do and holiday, they want
the kids to do well, and they want to eat
the foods that you and I eat. And so New
Zealand is so well placed and even with climate related effects,
New Zealand will be in a better place than most
countries in the world. So to everyone that's listening to
this in the primary sector, you're in the right place,
and just keep doing more of what you're doing and
know that the world loves your product.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Ray Smith, Director General of MPI, thanks for your time.
Thanks on behalf of the rest of us for what
the primary sector is doing for this country. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Thanks, Jimmy. Don't spend up too much on that card.
You know we're in a bit of pressure in the
public service. Don't you go spending too much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I've had some interesting broadcasting moments over thirty two years,
but I think that's the first time a stranger has
come up and interrupted a radio broadcast to give me, well,
give you. I thought he was like one of your starffs.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just because we're friendly mate in the primary sector.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So Colin Quigley. If you're out there, I've got your
credit card, mate. Geez. Oh, well, you live and learn.
There's always a new experience. We're going to take a
break here. It is eighteen after twelve. Up as the
Prince of the Provinces here yet well oh there he
goes right, there's the man who was on the receiving
end of the biggest burn at the Rural Support Trust
(13:08):
debate last night. Up next, bucklin, folks, that is Shane Jones.
Twenty one after twelve. You're with the country. I need
to get away from that microphone that is called feedback.
We are broadcasting live from Farmland site e one o eight.
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Come down and say hello one man if I can
get him off his smobile phone. Who said helo to
me is Shane Jones. The Prince of the province is
the self titled Martua. Now, Shane, you were on the
back of the biggest burn last night at the Rural
Support Trust debate. And i'll paraphrase what Karen mcinnulty said.
He described you as the self titled Prince of the
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Provinces and he said the only thing Shane Jones has
in common with the Prince is they're both waiting for
the king to die, and I thought that was an
excellent burn. But we all know Winston is ageless.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
It is life threatening for the matua to talk about
the long activity of Winston Peters. Sadly, the longer he lives,
the shorter Chippy's life will be.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well. I was talking to Chippy earlier on. He's barged
in ahead of you today. But anyhow, Chippy was here
and we were talking about this potential bill for the
Paris Agreement in twenty thirty. If we don't meet our commitments,
if Chippy's in charge, we might have to pay five
billion dollars. We can't afford to do that.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
You heard it here, Winston and I will never ever
send one razu to buy the Congo credits to satisfy
the appetite, I'll puff the magic dragon can get buggered.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You weren't speaking all Also, when were you speaking? I
heard you somewhere you were going on about the mining.
Was that this morning? No, it was it Federated Farmers.
I apologize. I've been to Rabobank breakfast the situation or
the Soapi report, and then I saw you pontificating at
Federated Farmers and you were you were just doubling down
on mining.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Lock.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
How come it's acceptable to bring Indonesian coal into the
ports of Toaduger, put it on a truck or a
train and then send it to Huntley when all over
the white huttle, underneath the footprints, underneath the cow pads
is whyehader coal. Why can't we dig our own minerals up,
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exploit our own resources to keep the lights on when
it's necessary, rather than rely upon Indonesian coal? And then
sing all these kumbay our songs stroking Papa Tunuku earth
mother and pretending that somehow Chloe's got the right wayater
We're going to save ourselves from the planet burning a
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load of bloody rubbish.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, that's been well received by the punters here. Well,
Chloe was an interested spectator at your speech at Federated
Farmers this morning. She wasn't exactly doing cartwells when you
were talking about mining. No, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
If I was to introduce Chloe as to how to
twirl and swing a poise, I would probably have gone
and disemboweled or taken a denacharized a sheep, a ram
and made a pair of poise for her to twirl.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
How does that sound for southern gentleman, Jamie, Well, let's
talk about a couple of Northland gentlemen, yourself and of
course the King Winston Peters. He'll be here tomorrow. If
you come back this time tomorrow, Winston will be on
the show. Are you a New Zealand an act? Are
you going to cannibalize or try to cannibalize the national vote?
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Because you're all after the vote of these people out here,
the farmers. So here's a chance to pitch to mystery creek.
Shane Jones.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Well, I've got to tell you, cockies, there is a
mystery here in this creek that's yet to be solved.
Where is the tent that the Labor Party never put
up next to New Zealand first sight, there's empty space
reflective of the policy manifesto of the Labor Party.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Where is that tent?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I'm told that Chippy has hired Karen McNulty to undertake
an investigation who is responsible for the disappearance of the tent?
He needs he needs assistance and they've got an underemployed
policeman to help them. I can tell you what the
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result will be because it's the Labor Party.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Too many chiefs.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
And not enough.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You mean Indians, do you mean? I say here? I say,
but best that I say but a chicken rather than you,
because you'll just get in trouble. Chippy with the Labor
Party came out yesterday with some policy because it's been
a long time coming, and it was basically as I
read it. He disagreed. He talked about rural school buses
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here earlier. But I see this as a sub subside
for urban New Zealand when it comes to public transport,
because most of these people out here don't have access
to public transport.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, well, all my kids, most of them, they live
up in Mangunui and then around Awnui north of Kaitaire.
Other than a spare horse or borrowing antie's vehicle, there's
no public transport in that part of Northland.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
So all of.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
The shampain swilling people, swiggers who live in Auckland you're
going to get a subsidy.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But most of the cockies and their children you're not.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Going to get it. Did you just say swingers in Auckland?
So I said swillen swimmers. I wasn't sure what he
was up to. Hey, I've got my beautiful wife in
the audience.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
She's already giving me the evils, so stop encouraging me.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't need to. Shane Jones, thank you so much.
I always appreciate it. The Prince of the province is
Shane Jones, right. Could have could have filled out the
rest of the hour with him, but we've got other
people to talk to. What's that, Oh, the credit card,
the credit card that disrupted. I don't know, it's just
it's disrupted our live broadcast. But don't worry about it.
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But she's got it there. There we go. Well, we'll
get the credit card to the owner. Okay, we're under control.
We are going to take a break and or here
he goes this bloke here, this can be on after
the break with his lovely wife Ingrid. This is Roland Smith.
This is the world's best sharer. He's up next on
the Country. At is twelve thirty on the Country. We're
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at Farmlands. Thank you Farmlands for hosting us very shortly
the latest and rural news and sports news. But as promised,
the world's best sharer and I can call him that
because he won the World Sharing Champs and he bowed
out on top at the World Sharing Champs and Golden
Shears and Masterton in early March. Rolland Smith, great to
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see you and your lovely wife Ingrid here. I'm going
to start with you. Are you kind of on the
celebrity speaking circuit now that you've hung up your hand piece?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Definitely not, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
I'm hiding on the farm where it's much much more
my cup of tea.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You still look pretty lean and trim. Are you still
on the end of the hand piece?
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Yes, Unfortunately, I've actually been sharing a few sheet yeah,
sort of.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Everybody thinks, oh, he's still sharing it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Yeah, I just retired from competing, so unfortunately I'm sharing
far too many sheep still.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
But that's the way it goes. I suppose.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Well, you probably make pretty good money doing them yourself,
don't you.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
We share our own sheep, so don't get paid anything?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well no, no, Well, if you have to pay someone
else to do it, I mean, that's all opportunity cost,
doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So what a roll in an Ingrid Smith doing their
farming lives now that you've stepped aside from competitive sharing.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah, I suppose it's just a bit more time on
the farm. Actually just fitted competitive sharing in with everything
else to do, so there was actually really little time
to do it. So now it's just a bit more relaxed.
And you know, at the end of a day, if
I've been working all day, I don't have to go
for a run or anything like that, so having a
beer instead.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So talk to me about or talk to these people
about your farming operation.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Yeah, so we farm and haste things just and Maracaco
there and we run around around two thousand acres and
shedding beef and predominantly fat and lambs and yeah so
which tends to be a few sheeps. So there's a
bit of sharing involved.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I know you've made a lot of money sharing over
theirs and you've earnted every seat it. But I'm assuming
some of the two thousand acres is lease or do
you own the whole lot? Have you made that much
money sharing?
Speaker 8 (22:07):
I'd like to say yes, but no, no, we only
own a small block and we leave three farms, so yeah,
we're working towards it.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
So but how good is it to see the wall
price coming up at the moment?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Absolutely well, I think the wool industry was under a
wee bit of threat. A year or two ago we
had a lot of farmers moving into self shedding sheep.
Maybe they're thinking twice about that move. Just a final
one for you hawks, Bay, I understand, and you just
confirmed it before. Is still quite dry? Is this like
a winter drought?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Our whole country is definitely crying out for a bit
of rain. But like I said before, we don't wish
too hard for these things because generally it'll all come
at once. So yeah, a little bit of rain here
and there, and a bit it's unshine to be all good.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, Roland Smith, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, here's
the world's best sharer. Let's get his other half on.
Some would say the better half, Ingrid Smith. She's famous
in her own right, believe it or not. This woman
here is a former world record holder as a sharer
as well. With your mom. It's such a great story
tell us about We'll tell these guys about that.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Ah yeah. So quite a few years ago now, Mum
and I had been to Emily Welch's record and afterwards,
on the drive home, Mum said, well, why don't we
try and do something like that? So we ended up
doing that. In two thousand and nine, we did the
two stand eight hour Woman's Lamb sharing record and we
set it at nine oh three and at the time
was fifty four and I was twenty three, So she's
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a big old day.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The Smith children have no chance. With your genetics, there's
going to be some sharers amongst you, a lot, isn't
that Because you've come from a family your mom and
dad were both sharers, and you basically didn't get a choice,
did you. You had to get on the end of
the handfiece, no shirkers. I think your father said, yes, I'm.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
One of five children and we can all share a sheep.
And we were just up there on the weekend and
four of the five siblings were there. Dad, who's seventy five,
was up there sharing away arthritis and all.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So yep, all just got in and got it done.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But you're much more than a sharer and a farmer.
Talk to me about your other life, your social media life.
You have a very high profile as the made up farmer.
Talk to us about that.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Okay, So yeah, I have a little online makeup business
and I've just sort of in the last couple of
years started incorporating a bit more farming content, but of
farming humor, horses, general chaotic parent life, and that seems
to go quite well with people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So yeah, it's good fun.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And you've got a bit of a rep if you
don't mind me saying so. I've not taken any shit,
for want of a better word, because there's always not
there's always where those on social media who will have
a go, Isn't that absolutely matter how positive you're being.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
And that's kind of become my em If I get
a shitty comment, I'll make a reply video and basically
shut them down nicely sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So shameless plug on national radio. The social channel is
or are more than one.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
It's all the same at the made up farmer.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay, Ingrid Smith, Roland Smith, thank you so much for
your time. We're going to take a break yet, well
it is twenty five away from one. We'll do Mike
Cases here. Yes, he is the chief executive of Rewire
of Rewiring at Row. We've also got the two Kates
to round it out, Kate Eckland Beef and Lamb or
(25:24):
Chair of Chief Chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand
and the chief executive of Horticulture, New Zealand get it right,
and that is Kate Scott. We'll do rural news and
sports news next Mike Casey and the two Kates to
round out the country on a beautiful day here in Hamilton.
My goodness, it was cold this morning, but it's a
stunning day. It's going to be a stunning week, and
(25:45):
it may even be a stunning Friday night if the
Chiefs can beat the Crusaders tomorrow night. We'll be back
after the break.
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Speaker 3 (26:06):
It is twenty two away from One the Country Day
two of four here at the National Agricultural Field Days.
Is that still what we call it at Mystery Creek anyhow,
it's just a magnet. They're so busy they don't, unfortunately
release crowd numbers anymore like they used to in the
good old days. I think yesterday would have been a
(26:26):
record attendance. The place was packed. Here's Michelle Watt, whose
eyes were popping out of her head because she's from
Balcluther and she's never been to the tron before for
field days. Michelle, could you get over how many people
were here yesterday?
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Oh it was mind blowing. Even today is absolutely mind blowing.
And I say, I really like the tron. I was
saying to my husband last night, say night, she quite
like it up there. It's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, it's great. It's the city of the future, and
it's the dairy and capital of the country. And Hamilton
is probably the farming capital provincial city of the country.
Palmerston North and in Viicargo might argue otherwise, but I'm
going to award it to Hamilton. What do you got
on rural news?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Okay and rural news. But first of all, I just
want to give a huge thanks shout out to Farmlands.
They've taken really good care of us for the last
two days. It's been fantastic. So on Roal Neo's future
of Yatto Medical School students, we've funneled into regional and
rural areas with clinical placements the House Minister's announced students
will be able to choose from Wykettle Bay are Plenty, Tartanaki,
Hawk's Bay or now someon Marlborough for their three years
(27:26):
of clinical training. Simeon Brown says that the systems design
so students from the regents can train at home. He
says placements often influenced where doctor's pactors, so it creates
a pathway for more work and rural areas. And the
schools are set to open in twenty twenty eight, which
is fantastic news for rural areas. And I think Mark
Scott's Sports News on the other side, Sports on.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The Country with FCO we owned. That's real.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
Yeah, thank you. Michelle England's second row Morgan Gannon, is
leaving the Warriors two seasons early. Gannon's plaid four men
in the NRL and has been granted a compassionate release
due to personal circumstances. Back to the field days.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, short and sharp, that's Mark Kelly paneling the show
out of our Auckland studios today, doing a great job.
We are going to take a break. Mike Casey has
been waiting patiently. He has got a groundbreaking he assures
me press release has he yes, it's very exciting. It's
going to be earth shattering. Then we've got the Two Kates,
a double act to round out the show. Kate Ackland
(28:28):
from beef and lamb New Zealand and Kate Scott from
horticulture in z And we'll have a look at their
numbers for their respective industries. Both of them are really good.
We'll be back after the break with Mike Casey seventeen
away from one. You're listening to the Country Day two
of four at Mystery Creek here at National Field Days.
(28:50):
Just a bit of a shout out. I called Hamilton
the farming capital, the provincial farming capital of the country.
And a guy by the name of Brett came up
and said, I love your show and every listener is
a prisoner. So I said, what do you do, Brett?
He said, I'm a mobile dog groomer from Hamilton. And
I said, Brett, I'm going to give your business a
(29:10):
shout out on National Radio. It's called Cleaner Dog. And
talking about cleaning, I see the managing director of super
Clean out there for all your cleaning needs in Taranga
and the Bay of Plenty. Trust me use super Clean.
There's a shameless plug for a family business. I shouldn't
be doing that, should I? Okay, here's a man who's
got brown groundbreaking news. Here is the chief executive of
(29:33):
rewiring artlro. His name is Mike Casey. He's the electric
cherry guy from Cromwell. What do you got, Mike? Hit
me between the eyes.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
You've been hearing me banging on about the electrification of
New Zealand for quite sometime. I just heard that your
old mate Rowena has just gone and bought a god
and bought an electric car. Oh field days right here
from the BD was.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
This another impulse from you? This is a girl by
This is a girl by the way who bought I
used when she worked with me. I called her two
houses because she bought a second house. It's on an
impulse buy and made a poor parents bridge the loan.
Speaker 12 (30:13):
Well, this is an impulse electric buy and I absolutely
love it. And you know the great thing, the whole
world is electrifying around you, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, Well talk Farmland's Flex which is Farmland's solar or
electric or battery powered oh operation. What connection do you
have for that great product?
Speaker 12 (30:30):
I used it how to develop it on my farm,
hosted the Farmland's Board meeting at my farm to launch
that product. So it's an amazing product for farmers that
allowed them to look at their energy and I ultimately
make the right decisions to just drive down farm and pookcofs.
And we're at the stage now where farmers across the country.
I think they've got over one hundred farms now that
they have installed solar on. It's like her own private
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oil well and refinery. Right energy on your farm for
your machine.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And we talked about this one yesterday when the big
wins hit down south and in Canterbury Are the power
was off for up to six or seven days for
a lot of those dairy farmers. And we know that
cows need milk twice a day and there was a
real rush on generators. There wasn't enough of them. Should
this is a dumb question to ask you, because you're
going to say yes, But should every dairy shed or
(31:15):
milking shed or wool shed for that matter, have solar
panels on the roof, especially you know the dairy sheds
that are used twice a day.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
It is the cheapest energy that a farmer is ever
going to get now. And so the answer for that
reason is one hundred percent Yes. Makes good money in
the good times, and you know in the bad times
you've got batteries with it, Well, you'll keep the dairy
shed running when the lights go out.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
So it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Have we had the big announcement yet? I don't think
that was that was Rowena. Oh that was Rowena's car.
Speaker 12 (31:42):
Yeah, yeah, that was the big announcement all right.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I thought I was expecting something, but I thought that
was huge news.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Mate.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
I've been bagging on about this stuff for so long
and finally, you know, starting to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Well, I hope she bought a night Suzu because that's
a shameless plug time they're the sponsors of the country.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (31:57):
No, no, she bought a by d a Sea Lion,
I believe, which is, you know, when Azizu brings out
their electric Dmax or whatever it might be, we'll we'll
be right in there supporting that.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I don't know what are other cars, but someone's going
to get a cheap car on trade me, I would suspect. Okay,
what's happening in the world of electrification.
Speaker 12 (32:14):
So I've just been at field days the last couple
of days. Been absolutely amazing. Just the number of farmers
now that are installing solar, thinking about installing solar, taking
their energy destinies into their own hands. I think that's utterly,
you know, just absolutely fantastic. The shift in the narrative,
even in one year from last Farmlands has been phenomenal.
Good businesses like Farmland Flex are supporting farmers. There's now
a huge amount of solar installers here at Farmlands, so
(32:36):
at our field days, and just a huge number of
electric machines on offer now. So it's happening and I'm
really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, this is not only about farmers the field days.
It is town and country bringing them both together. There's
a lot of urban folk come, especially from the Taranga,
Hamilton and anywhere else around here. If you're a towny
and you're in the middle of Hamilton, do the numbers
stack up to put solar panel on your roof.
Speaker 12 (33:00):
One hundred percent? You'll probably get it about quarter of
the price of the grid and probably about one twentieth
of the price of diesel at the moment.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
So when you look at it like that, it's phenomenal.
What is the payback period for solar panels on.
Speaker 12 (33:11):
A rooftop and Hamilton, Oh, probably somewhere between five to
seven years, depending on how many people on your home,
but lower if you've got an electric.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Vehicle, when you're selling your home, or if you're selling
your home, do you get do you do you get
payback for the capital you put in there? Really? Will
people pay another one? I mean, what does it cost
to put solar panels on it? On just a twenty grand?
Do you get an extra twenty grand?
Speaker 12 (33:35):
The Australians now definitely do. We don't have to data
support that in New Zealand. But I mean, if if
it's lowering your costs, it should make the home more valuable.
So I think it does, but we're yet to see
it officially ratified in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
And the other thing you do is I alluded to
you are the electric cheery guy. Cherries had a can
I say, a challenging season.
Speaker 12 (33:54):
I'm kind of happy that I went through that in
all honestly, Jamie, because I was starting to get a
bit arrogant as a farmer. I think I got ontoes
in twenty nineteen and they were just falling off the trees,
and you know you've had.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Them before, you know what they're like. They're absolutely amazing,
best cherries in New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
A bad blizzard.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
MacLean might not have great I reckon.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
He does down maybe quietly, but you know, at the
end of it, we had a bad season. Ultimately that
brought me down to earth a little bit and I realized,
you know just how tough farming can be, and we'll
be back to fight another day.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, good job, you're the most wanted man in New
Zealand on the celebrity speaking circuit. That's a good off
farm in come for you.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Mike Casey is champion bloke. And the cherries are called
electric cherries, Electric cherries, and I can take it from me,
they're absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 12 (34:38):
And you've got the two cats coming up next.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That's going to be amazing. Yes, I amim I'm finishing.
Not the two runnies. They've got the two cats. These
are two women who are at their top of their
respective industries. One is the chair of Beef and Lamb
New Zealand. The other is the chief executive of Horticulture
New Zealand. Both of those industries had outstanding numbers this
morning with the soapy report. Well talk about that and
(35:00):
wrap the country with that after the break.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
A second time.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Bay that is ight away from one, Rapping the country
on day two from the field days We're at Farmland's
the two Kates Ackland and Scott, and sorry for the
wee bit of dead air with Mike Casey at the start.
I'm going to throw him under the bus because other
than that he's been excellent over the past two days.
My tech Liam Simpson from Auckland, I think he had
(35:29):
I think he had too many emersons hazed and confused
on Tuesday night. Big night out on the tron for him. Okay,
we'll start with you, Kate Ackland, Beef and Lamb New Zealand,
outstanding numbers. Let me look at yours meat and wall
and Wolves coming to the party now up fourteen percent
to fourteen point one billion. You're starting to chase down Derry.
Speaker 13 (35:49):
Well, that is absolutely our goal. But look how fantastic
is it and you can feel it here at Field
Days at the moment. You know the energy is amazing
and you know we've had an amazing result fourteen point
one percent up book followed by Horticulture.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well, let's look at those Hoart numbers with Kate Scott,
Chief Executive of Horticulture New Zealand. Where are your numbers?
Up seven point five percent to nine But then you've
left forestry in your wake, because it's not that long
ago that forestry and horticulture were neck and neck. K
We Fruit, no surprise, leading the charge up sixteen percent
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to four point eight billion.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (36:26):
Look, kei We fruit has had an absolutely outstanding year,
and it's fair to say that they are the cornerstone
of the horticulture sector. But look, apples have also had
an amazing season. They're up close to one point two,
and then we have our Tier two crops that are
also starting to show signs of ongoing growth as well.
So look, we're incredibly excited about the future trajectory for horticulture.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Ray Smith made a special mention this morning of the
sectors that are doing it tough viticulture and you two
are both involved in that obviously arable farming. And the
other one you mentioned, which is under your portfolio, Kate Scott,
is veggie growers. That's a tough gig, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Yeah, look it is.
Speaker 14 (37:02):
Those veggie growers certainly go out and work incredibly hard
every day, and you know they are the ones that
are feeling the pressure from increase in input costs, particularly
increased fuel, increased fertilizer. When they're out there trying to
grow fresh vegetables for New Zealanders every day. So they
do have a hard gig, but look, they remain incredibly
resilient and you know, looking towards those opportunities to keep
(37:24):
you chasing down some profitability for them as well.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, and the other one he mentioned was viticulture, and
I alluded it to it. You two have both got
an interest in there. Kate, That's how you started out,
Kate Ackland here, that's how you started out your professional career,
isn't it I did.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I'm a winemaker by training who married a farmer, and yes,
I saw the lights and moved to the farm and
I haven't looked back, but do still have a vineyard
and winery and malverra and look, it is really really challenging,
incredibly challenging there. But I think you know, the green
shoots are starting to appear on some of our markets.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Has the world changed to the younger people of today
not want to get sozzled like the boom as she
used to my stereotyping here.
Speaker 13 (38:03):
I know the millennials, the millennials will save the wine industry.
Kate and I are millennials. We went to high school
together and we're doing our beast between us to save
the wine.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Or you two went to high school together? Yeah, what
the school was that?
Speaker 13 (38:13):
Andegate?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Oh my goodness, Well you live in Bannockburn now, Kate Scott,
you made the move I think from Wellington? Or are
you back in Wellington?
Speaker 14 (38:22):
No, we're living in Wellington, but we still have our
piece of bannic Burn paradise.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Now that is paradise. You've got a vineyard down there.
How are you going with that?
Speaker 14 (38:29):
Well, look, it's fair to say it wasn't a great year.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
This year.
Speaker 14 (38:31):
We didn't harvest any grapes. We chose to leave them
on the vine and that's the second year in a row.
So can attest to the challenges that the wine sector
is facing. But look, I'm no expert at making it
like Kate's. My expertise might lie in the drinking it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Well, let's just finish with the future for both of
your industries. You'll start with you, Kate Eckland. It would
appear to me that red meat in particular has a
wonderful future and this is off the back of the
protein boom.
Speaker 13 (38:55):
People want it, people absolutely want it, and you know,
The great thing is it's happening in all of our markets,
really really strong demand and strong prices in all markets,
and we're not sort of seeing that usual turn away
to chicken or pork for some of those turnative proteins.
The other thing that was mentioned this morning is wooll
really good to see a big uptick in wool prices finally,
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and I hear that the auction might have been up
seven percent again today.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh yes, I've got some Rachel shar has sent me
some big, big numbers for the strong waol industry. Just
find a word from you, Kate Scott. Horticulture especially kyw fruit,
it's a super food. Is the future limitless?
Speaker 14 (39:33):
Look, I think the future is looking pretty bright for
the horticulture sector. We have ten billion in sights and
we are going to try and keep on the coattails
of our friends in the sheep and beef sector. So
we are really excited about the future trajectory for horticulture.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
There we go, the two Kates wrapping the country on
day two from the Field Days, Kate Scott and Kate Ackland.
Tomorrow on the show, We've got a special treat for
you if you wander past here at about thirty. We
had the Prince of the Provinces on the show today.
Tomorrow we're pulling out all stops. We've got the King. Yes,
(40:08):
grumpy old Winston's on here tomorrow and I'm looking forward
to having an argument with him, but I love the
man all the same. Okay, we're gonna We'll be back
tomorrow and enjoy the rest of your Thursday.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
I've got.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good afternoon news. Ellen, Welcome to the Country. We're coming
to you live from Farmland Site site see one. I
come and say hello to us Cast one thousands today
it's I'm Jamie mckaye. By the way, it's been a
huge day at Field Days because we've had the situation
and outlook for the Primary Industry's report released this morning. Raysmith,
(00:44):
director General of MPI, is patiently waiting in the wings
to tell us about this. It was going to be
our lead story, but no, Chris Hipkins was late. Everyone
was late. So Chris Chipper, you're kicking off the show.
You booted the director General of MPI. But I am
keen to get your take on the great numbers that
Raysmith released this morning. Good afternoon, by the way, great
(01:05):
to be here, Jamen.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Look at as a testament to our agricultural sector that
our numbers are looking so good.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, sixty nearly sixty.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Five billion dollars to the New Zealand economy, hundreds of
thousands of jobs across the agricultural and associated sectors and
a lot of hard work over a lot of a
long period of time to grow our exports, to really
grow the industry. All of New Zealand's benefiting from that,
and it is a testament to our farming community that
we're seeing such impressive numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now you've openly admitted that you guys got it wrong
in the last term twenty twenty to twenty twenty three.
You had to undo a lot of damage done by
that labor led government. You have appreciated that if you
get the treasury benches come November the seventh, how farmer
friendly you're going to be. I think continuity is really important.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But I I think the number one message that I've
heard from our farming community, which I think is really
really important for any government to hear, quite frankly, is
tell us what you want us to achieve. Don't always
tell us how to do it. We'll figure out the
best way of doing it. You tell us what the
goal is, You tell us what it is that we've
got to work towards, and we'll figure out the best
way of achieving that. And I think that's really good
and fair feedback.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
What do you make of the news this morning that
the Prime Minister says the government will give twenty thirty
climate change targets a good goal, but he's ruling out
paying billions for carbon credits, and apparently the number is
it's here somewhere. We could be up for a five
billion dollar bill to honor the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think there's some real questions around that because not
honoring our Paris Agreements obligations potentially actually as an impact
on trade. So if you look at the European Union
Free Trade Agreement, our export industries, our farmers have really
benefited from that. Not hitting our Paris Agreement obligations potentially
compromises that. So we've got to hear a bit more
from the government about Okay, if they're not going to
hit those targets and they're not going to buy international credits,
(02:55):
how exactly are they going to meet the commitments that
we've made internationally so that our industries don't suffer because
of our failure to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Now, talking about failures, the Labor Party didn't turn up yesterday,
but you're here today, and I know we were here yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I wasn't here yesterday, but the labor ship have a No,
we've not had an empty site.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Look, there's be because Chris Bishop that was in trouble.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There was David Seymour down the back complaining that no
one was coming to talk to him because the reality
and I can't. I can understand that. But we don't
actually have a stall because I don't think people should
have to come to us. I think we should go
to them. So at field Days, we've got a big
labor contingent here and we go out and we talk
to people and we go to you. We don't wait
for you to come to us.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You had a good labor contingent at the Rural Support
Trust de Bait last night show Lux than your egg
person was there, Damien was there. I didn't catch up
with them. You were there and you were rocking your
best rural look. You had the Swan drive shirt on.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I was, you know, it's nice to be a little
bit more, a bit more informal out here in the country.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, And one more was I've been waiting and I've
been picking on poor old Joe saying when you're going
to come out with some egg policy, I might well,
I'm already an old man, but I'll be an older
man by the time you get some But you did
come out with some policy yesterday around public transport. It
was a wee bit underwhelming, if you don't mind me
saying so.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, and it's actually been very widely received.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And the big public transport.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Issue in rural communities as school buses, and so we've
got more coming on school buses that what the current
government are doing around school buses is making a hell
of a mess of it, and I think a lot
of rural communities are really upset about that because getting
their kids to and from school safely using school buses
is incredibly important to our rural communities and the current
government are messing around with that. So my reassurance to
(04:34):
our rural communities will we see you and we hear
you on that, as we've got to fix the school buses.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What isn't the guts of your bus policy, if I
can call it that just subsidizing travel for urban ightes.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, I mean will primarily benefit those living in towns
and cities rather than rurally.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
What about these people out here? What's in it for
the school buses?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, there will be other policies that benefit They'm not
every policy we announce is going to benefit every community,
but in terms of buses, school buses is the big
thing that I get from our rural communities and we
are going to do some more about that.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
All right, Chris Hipkins, I'll let you go. I know
you've got to go and have lunch with the European ambassador.
He's a great bloke to Lawrence Mary for Thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Mary.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Good to see you, Jamie. And he's got a big
hand from the punters here as well, some of the
Labor Party faithful over there. So this guy was going
to kick off the show, but he I sorry, I
had to drop you to number two there. This is
Ray Smith, the Director General of MPI. You come out
with some outstanding numbers, Ray Smith, with the situation and
(05:31):
outlook for primary industries. For people out there or who
are listening live on the radio, summarize those numbers for me.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
You look, look, this is the happiest day of the
year for the primary sector because we just have this
outstanding result sixty four billion dollars six percent growth. You see,
dairy up five percent, horticulture up seven and of course
our red meat sector that was struggling a couple of
years ago, up fourteen percent, and if you look at
the overall result, we've grown twenty We've grown twenty percent
(06:03):
in the last two years. That's an extra ten billion
dollars nextport earnings that we brought into the country and
that makes a massive difference to all the things that
New Zealanders want to be able to do well.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We know there's some great numbers out of dairy, we
know there's now some great numbers out of largely red meat,
but wall is starting to pick up its act. But
in some ways, the standout number for me, and we're
going to be talking to Kate Scott from Horticulture in
New Zealand, is the rise and continued rise of horticulture.
Only a few years ago, two or three years ago,
(06:32):
horticulture and forestry were neck and neck. Forestry is unfortunately
going nowhere. Horticulture is up seven and a half percent
to nine billion KIW fruit leading the charge up sixteen
percent to nearly five billion.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's phenomenal result, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
And it just shows two things The world wants our
fresh products and global prices are good.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And is quite tight.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Supplying out of a range of countries for New Zealand's products.
But you're right to contrast with forestry. I mean, what's
going to happen is the kiwi fruit industry itself will
end up being bigger than the forestry sector.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's almost gone past it.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And if you look at global kiwi fruit, it's probably
about six billion, four point eight billion out of New Zealand.
And even in wine, you know, wine's been a really
tough story for the last for the last year or two,
but we continue to increase our market share worldwide to
sevenyon blanc. It's a unique product. People want to drink it,
but prices have been tough. But think about the apple
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industry too. You know, they had those massive cyclones down
through the East Coast wiped out a lot of orchards,
but it's now one point three billion and great growth
in the last year.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You made special mention this morning in your address you've
mentioned viticulture. Tough times for wine. We've got a bit
of a grape glutt out there arable also under the
pump at the moment, along with our vegetable grows.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You've got to feel for them. The arable sector.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You know, they've had a shocking run of oversupply then
bad weather, and we need those terrible farmers to be
doing anythings. So look, we think that'll come right in
the mid term. Vegetable sector. You know, vegetable sector is
large year domestic sector, and so fuel prices, fertilizer prices,
all those input costs being so high really hurt getting
those products to market for us.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
One of the other standout figures because you had some
wonderful graphs. Unfortunately graphs don't translate that well to live radio,
but you showed a growth of our primary export, and
that was the ups and downs. But this, you know,
it was interesting just looking at some of the historical blips,
the global financial crisis, COVID cyclone, Gabrielle obviously the latest one.
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We've had to well, tariffs last year, and of course
this year of the Middle.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
East crisis, and you can go all the way back
to the fifties with the Korean War, the seventies that
you know a lot of us went through with the
Royal crisis from seventy three through to seventy nine. Well
you're old enough to remember, Carlos star I do remember
Thursday was our Cali Carlos Day at home. And you know,
the thing that's really impressive about the primary sector is
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that through fifty odd years of crisis, we've continued to grow.
We've grown phenomenally actually, and we continue to accelerate our
growth rate.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And I think the reason for that, Jamie, is this
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Has a comparative advantage and growing primary products compared to
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We've got great soils.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
A moderate climate, plenty of water. Our animals eat outside,
they live outside. We don't have to grow grain to
feed animals, so we've got a relatively much more efficient
system and we are always going to be able to
outcompete and many other countries and producing protein for the world.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We've had outstanding and growth in the primary sector in
the past two years or seasons. But twenty six twenty seven,
the farming season we're just heading into is likely to
be mutant, if that's the quiet right word. By the
pure crisis the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
War, I think two things that the Middle East crisis,
you know, the uncertainty around what's going to happen next there.
We just don't need to see a bomb drop in
the wrong place and actually affect those who all supply.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We're good for the moment, but that crisis is not over.
And I think the second thing is, you know, we're
heading into this al Nino weather pattern. Whereas last year
we had massive pasture growth, this year it will flatten
out a bit through the through the warmer months and
we'll see production come off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So we're still going to do really well.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Deer is going to be great, red meat's going to
be outstanding. Look, there's a shortage. The United States is
at a seventy year low in supply of red meat,
and New Zealand's filling that spot, and it's filling China
and Europe as well.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
How good are fat Americans for us? I shouldn't say that,
should I? But I mean they like to eat. They
love their hamburgers, which is why they're wanting our lean
grinding beef, by the way. But the irony is they
are really chasing protein now because of the GLP one
weight loss strokes.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, that's right, that's right, And so you know, with
the growth and people trying to get a bit of
weight off, particularly those of us with a few years
under our belt and taking these weight loss strokes. They
want they want proteins and New Zealand produces very high
value proteins.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So they don't want to eat a lot, but they
want to.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Eat a high value protein product and that's what we
produce here in his yally.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I want a cherry pick. I think one more stat
that you're through out this morning, which was really interesting,
great address, by the way, they should film that and
put it on Netflix. It was that good ray the
middle class in the world. Seventy percent of the middle
class people in the world just down there. Does this
bloke realize that we're on live?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
He just give me his credit card? We're away, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Is that the NPI credit card right In't want drinks
are on us? Let me cherry pick. The last figure,
seventy percent of the world's middle class and the next
I don't know how many years will be in the
Indo Pacific region that's our back door.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Hey, listen, the world's population is going to grow by
another two billion people between now in twenty fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And a lot of those are going to be in India.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And so if you think about the rising, you know
these countries that were seen as developing countries.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're growing in the numbers of people that are just
like you and meat.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
You know, they want to do and holiday, they want
the kids to do well, and they want to eat
the foods that you and I eat. And so New
Zealand is so well placed and even with climate related effects,
New Zealand will be in a better place than most
countries in the world. So to everyone that's listening to
this in the primary sector, you're in the right place,
and just keep doing more of what you're doing and
know that the world loves your product.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Ray Smith, Director General of MPI, thanks for your time.
Thanks on behalf of the rest of us for what
the primary sector is doing for this country. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Thanks, Jimmy. Don't spend up too much on that card.
You know we're in a bit of pressure in the
public service. Don't you go spending too much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I've had some interesting broadcasting moments over thirty two years,
but I think that's the first time a stranger has
come up and interrupted a radio broadcast to give me, well,
give you. I thought he was like one of your starffs.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just because we're friendly mate in the primary sector.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So Colin Quigley. If you're out there, I've got your
credit card, mate. Geez. Oh, well, you live and learn.
There's always a new experience. We're going to take a
break here. It is eighteen after twelve. Up as the
Prince of the Provinces here yet well oh there he
goes right, there's the man who was on the receiving
end of the biggest burn at the Rural Support Trust
(13:08):
debate last night. Up next, bucklin, folks, that is Shane Jones.
Twenty one after twelve. You're with the country. I need
to get away from that microphone that is called feedback.
We are broadcasting live from Farmland site e one o eight.
(13:31):
Come down and say hello one man if I can
get him off his smobile phone. Who said helo to
me is Shane Jones. The Prince of the province is
the self titled Martua. Now, Shane, you were on the
back of the biggest burn last night at the Rural
Support Trust debate. And i'll paraphrase what Karen mcinnulty said.
He described you as the self titled Prince of the
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Provinces and he said the only thing Shane Jones has
in common with the Prince is they're both waiting for
the king to die, and I thought that was an
excellent burn. But we all know Winston is ageless.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
It is life threatening for the matua to talk about
the long activity of Winston Peters. Sadly, the longer he lives,
the shorter Chippy's life will be.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well. I was talking to Chippy earlier on. He's barged
in ahead of you today. But anyhow, Chippy was here
and we were talking about this potential bill for the
Paris Agreement in twenty thirty. If we don't meet our commitments,
if Chippy's in charge, we might have to pay five
billion dollars. We can't afford to do that.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
You heard it here, Winston and I will never ever
send one razu to buy the Congo credits to satisfy
the appetite, I'll puff the magic dragon can get buggered.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You weren't speaking all Also, when were you speaking? I
heard you somewhere you were going on about the mining.
Was that this morning? No, it was it Federated Farmers.
I apologize. I've been to Rabobank breakfast the situation or
the Soapi report, and then I saw you pontificating at
Federated Farmers and you were you were just doubling down
on mining.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Lock.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
How come it's acceptable to bring Indonesian coal into the
ports of Toaduger, put it on a truck or a
train and then send it to Huntley when all over
the white huttle, underneath the footprints, underneath the cow pads
is whyehader coal. Why can't we dig our own minerals up,
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exploit our own resources to keep the lights on when
it's necessary, rather than rely upon Indonesian coal? And then
sing all these kumbay our songs stroking Papa Tunuku earth
mother and pretending that somehow Chloe's got the right wayater
We're going to save ourselves from the planet burning a
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load of bloody rubbish.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, that's been well received by the punters here. Well,
Chloe was an interested spectator at your speech at Federated
Farmers this morning. She wasn't exactly doing cartwells when you
were talking about mining. No, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
If I was to introduce Chloe as to how to
twirl and swing a poise, I would probably have gone
and disemboweled or taken a denacharized a sheep, a ram
and made a pair of poise for her to twirl.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
How does that sound for southern gentleman, Jamie, Well, let's
talk about a couple of Northland gentlemen, yourself and of
course the King Winston Peters. He'll be here tomorrow. If
you come back this time tomorrow, Winston will be on
the show. Are you a New Zealand an act? Are
you going to cannibalize or try to cannibalize the national vote?
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Because you're all after the vote of these people out here,
the farmers. So here's a chance to pitch to mystery creek.
Shane Jones.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Well, I've got to tell you, cockies, there is a
mystery here in this creek that's yet to be solved.
Where is the tent that the Labor Party never put
up next to New Zealand first sight, there's empty space
reflective of the policy manifesto of the Labor Party.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Where is that tent?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I'm told that Chippy has hired Karen McNulty to undertake
an investigation who is responsible for the disappearance of the tent?
He needs he needs assistance and they've got an underemployed
policeman to help them. I can tell you what the
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result will be because it's the Labor Party.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Too many chiefs.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
And not enough.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You mean Indians, do you mean? I say here? I say,
but best that I say but a chicken rather than you,
because you'll just get in trouble. Chippy with the Labor
Party came out yesterday with some policy because it's been
a long time coming, and it was basically as I
read it. He disagreed. He talked about rural school buses
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here earlier. But I see this as a sub subside
for urban New Zealand when it comes to public transport,
because most of these people out here don't have access
to public transport.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, well, all my kids, most of them, they live
up in Mangunui and then around Awnui north of Kaitaire.
Other than a spare horse or borrowing antie's vehicle, there's
no public transport in that part of Northland.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
So all of.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
The shampain swilling people, swiggers who live in Auckland you're
going to get a subsidy.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But most of the cockies and their children you're not.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Going to get it. Did you just say swingers in Auckland?
So I said swillen swimmers. I wasn't sure what he
was up to. Hey, I've got my beautiful wife in
the audience.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
She's already giving me the evils, so stop encouraging me.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't need to. Shane Jones, thank you so much.
I always appreciate it. The Prince of the province is
Shane Jones, right. Could have could have filled out the
rest of the hour with him, but we've got other
people to talk to. What's that, Oh, the credit card,
the credit card that disrupted. I don't know, it's just
it's disrupted our live broadcast. But don't worry about it.
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But she's got it there. There we go. Well, we'll
get the credit card to the owner. Okay, we're under control.
We are going to take a break and or here
he goes this bloke here, this can be on after
the break with his lovely wife Ingrid. This is Roland Smith.
This is the world's best sharer. He's up next on
the Country. At is twelve thirty on the Country. We're
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at Farmlands. Thank you Farmlands for hosting us very shortly
the latest and rural news and sports news. But as promised,
the world's best sharer and I can call him that
because he won the World Sharing Champs and he bowed
out on top at the World Sharing Champs and Golden
Shears and Masterton in early March. Rolland Smith, great to
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see you and your lovely wife Ingrid here. I'm going
to start with you. Are you kind of on the
celebrity speaking circuit now that you've hung up your hand piece?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Definitely not, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
I'm hiding on the farm where it's much much more
my cup of tea.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You still look pretty lean and trim. Are you still
on the end of the hand piece?
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Yes, Unfortunately, I've actually been sharing a few sheet yeah,
sort of.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Everybody thinks, oh, he's still sharing it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Yeah, I just retired from competing, so unfortunately I'm sharing
far too many sheep still.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
But that's the way it goes. I suppose.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Well, you probably make pretty good money doing them yourself,
don't you.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
We share our own sheep, so don't get paid anything?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well no, no, Well, if you have to pay someone
else to do it, I mean, that's all opportunity cost,
doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So what a roll in an Ingrid Smith doing their
farming lives now that you've stepped aside from competitive sharing.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah, I suppose it's just a bit more time on
the farm. Actually just fitted competitive sharing in with everything
else to do, so there was actually really little time
to do it. So now it's just a bit more relaxed.
And you know, at the end of a day, if
I've been working all day, I don't have to go
for a run or anything like that, so having a
beer instead.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So talk to me about or talk to these people
about your farming operation.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Yeah, so we farm and haste things just and Maracaco
there and we run around around two thousand acres and
shedding beef and predominantly fat and lambs and yeah so
which tends to be a few sheeps. So there's a
bit of sharing involved.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I know you've made a lot of money sharing over
theirs and you've earnted every seat it. But I'm assuming
some of the two thousand acres is lease or do
you own the whole lot? Have you made that much
money sharing?
Speaker 8 (22:07):
I'd like to say yes, but no, no, we only
own a small block and we leave three farms, so yeah,
we're working towards it.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
So but how good is it to see the wall
price coming up at the moment?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Absolutely well, I think the wool industry was under a
wee bit of threat. A year or two ago we
had a lot of farmers moving into self shedding sheep.
Maybe they're thinking twice about that move. Just a final
one for you hawks, Bay, I understand, and you just
confirmed it before. Is still quite dry? Is this like
a winter drought?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Our whole country is definitely crying out for a bit
of rain. But like I said before, we don't wish
too hard for these things because generally it'll all come
at once. So yeah, a little bit of rain here
and there, and a bit it's unshine to be all good.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, Roland Smith, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, here's
the world's best sharer. Let's get his other half on.
Some would say the better half, Ingrid Smith. She's famous
in her own right, believe it or not. This woman
here is a former world record holder as a sharer
as well. With your mom. It's such a great story
tell us about We'll tell these guys about that.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Ah yeah. So quite a few years ago now, Mum
and I had been to Emily Welch's record and afterwards,
on the drive home, Mum said, well, why don't we
try and do something like that? So we ended up
doing that. In two thousand and nine, we did the
two stand eight hour Woman's Lamb sharing record and we
set it at nine oh three and at the time
was fifty four and I was twenty three, So she's
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a big old day.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The Smith children have no chance. With your genetics, there's
going to be some sharers amongst you, a lot, isn't
that Because you've come from a family your mom and
dad were both sharers, and you basically didn't get a choice,
did you. You had to get on the end of
the handfiece, no shirkers. I think your father said, yes, I'm.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
One of five children and we can all share a sheep.
And we were just up there on the weekend and
four of the five siblings were there. Dad, who's seventy five,
was up there sharing away arthritis and all.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So yep, all just got in and got it done.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But you're much more than a sharer and a farmer.
Talk to me about your other life, your social media life.
You have a very high profile as the made up farmer.
Talk to us about that.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Okay, So yeah, I have a little online makeup business
and I've just sort of in the last couple of
years started incorporating a bit more farming content, but of
farming humor, horses, general chaotic parent life, and that seems
to go quite well with people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So yeah, it's good fun.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And you've got a bit of a rep if you
don't mind me saying so. I've not taken any shit,
for want of a better word, because there's always not
there's always where those on social media who will have
a go, Isn't that absolutely matter how positive you're being.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
And that's kind of become my em If I get
a shitty comment, I'll make a reply video and basically
shut them down nicely sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So shameless plug on national radio. The social channel is
or are more than one.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
It's all the same at the made up farmer.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay, Ingrid Smith, Roland Smith, thank you so much for
your time. We're going to take a break yet, well
it is twenty five away from one. We'll do Mike
Cases here. Yes, he is the chief executive of Rewire
of Rewiring at Row. We've also got the two Kates
to round it out, Kate Eckland Beef and Lamb or
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Chair of Chief Chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand
and the chief executive of Horticulture, New Zealand get it right,
and that is Kate Scott. We'll do rural news and
sports news next Mike Casey and the two Kates to
round out the country on a beautiful day here in Hamilton.
My goodness, it was cold this morning, but it's a
stunning day. It's going to be a stunning week, and
(25:45):
it may even be a stunning Friday night if the
Chiefs can beat the Crusaders tomorrow night. We'll be back
after the break.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
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Speaker 3 (26:06):
It is twenty two away from One the Country Day
two of four here at the National Agricultural Field Days.
Is that still what we call it at Mystery Creek anyhow,
it's just a magnet. They're so busy they don't, unfortunately
release crowd numbers anymore like they used to in the
good old days. I think yesterday would have been a
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record attendance. The place was packed. Here's Michelle Watt, whose
eyes were popping out of her head because she's from
Balcluther and she's never been to the tron before for
field days. Michelle, could you get over how many people
were here yesterday?
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Oh it was mind blowing. Even today is absolutely mind blowing.
And I say, I really like the tron. I was
saying to my husband last night, say night, she quite
like it up there. It's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, it's great. It's the city of the future, and
it's the dairy and capital of the country. And Hamilton
is probably the farming capital provincial city of the country.
Palmerston North and in Viicargo might argue otherwise, but I'm
going to award it to Hamilton. What do you got
on rural news?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Okay and rural news. But first of all, I just
want to give a huge thanks shout out to Farmlands.
They've taken really good care of us for the last
two days. It's been fantastic. So on Roal Neo's future
of Yatto Medical School students, we've funneled into regional and
rural areas with clinical placements the House Minister's announced students
will be able to choose from Wykettle Bay are Plenty, Tartanaki,
Hawk's Bay or now someon Marlborough for their three years
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of clinical training. Simeon Brown says that the systems design
so students from the regents can train at home. He
says placements often influenced where doctor's pactors, so it creates
a pathway for more work and rural areas. And the
schools are set to open in twenty twenty eight, which
is fantastic news for rural areas. And I think Mark
Scott's Sports News on the other side, Sports on.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The Country with FCO we owned. That's real.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
Yeah, thank you. Michelle England's second row Morgan Gannon, is
leaving the Warriors two seasons early. Gannon's plaid four men
in the NRL and has been granted a compassionate release
due to personal circumstances. Back to the field days.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, short and sharp, that's Mark Kelly paneling the show
out of our Auckland studios today, doing a great job.
We are going to take a break. Mike Casey has
been waiting patiently. He has got a groundbreaking he assures
me press release has he yes, it's very exciting. It's
going to be earth shattering. Then we've got the Two Kates,
a double act to round out the show. Kate Ackland
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from beef and lamb New Zealand and Kate Scott from
horticulture in z And we'll have a look at their
numbers for their respective industries. Both of them are really good.
We'll be back after the break with Mike Casey seventeen
away from one. You're listening to the Country Day two
of four at Mystery Creek here at National Field Days.
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Just a bit of a shout out. I called Hamilton
the farming capital, the provincial farming capital of the country.
And a guy by the name of Brett came up
and said, I love your show and every listener is
a prisoner. So I said, what do you do, Brett?
He said, I'm a mobile dog groomer from Hamilton. And
I said, Brett, I'm going to give your business a
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shout out on National Radio. It's called Cleaner Dog. And
talking about cleaning, I see the managing director of super
Clean out there for all your cleaning needs in Taranga
and the Bay of Plenty. Trust me use super Clean.
There's a shameless plug for a family business. I shouldn't
be doing that, should I? Okay, here's a man who's
got brown groundbreaking news. Here is the chief executive of
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rewiring artlro. His name is Mike Casey. He's the electric
cherry guy from Cromwell. What do you got, Mike? Hit
me between the eyes.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
You've been hearing me banging on about the electrification of
New Zealand for quite sometime. I just heard that your
old mate Rowena has just gone and bought a god
and bought an electric car. Oh field days right here
from the BD was.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
This another impulse from you? This is a girl by
This is a girl by the way who bought I
used when she worked with me. I called her two
houses because she bought a second house. It's on an
impulse buy and made a poor parents bridge the loan.
Speaker 12 (30:13):
Well, this is an impulse electric buy and I absolutely
love it. And you know the great thing, the whole
world is electrifying around you, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, Well talk Farmland's Flex which is Farmland's solar or
electric or battery powered oh operation. What connection do you
have for that great product?
Speaker 12 (30:30):
I used it how to develop it on my farm,
hosted the Farmland's Board meeting at my farm to launch
that product. So it's an amazing product for farmers that
allowed them to look at their energy and I ultimately
make the right decisions to just drive down farm and pookcofs.
And we're at the stage now where farmers across the country.
I think they've got over one hundred farms now that
they have installed solar on. It's like her own private
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oil well and refinery. Right energy on your farm for
your machine.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And we talked about this one yesterday when the big
wins hit down south and in Canterbury Are the power
was off for up to six or seven days for
a lot of those dairy farmers. And we know that
cows need milk twice a day and there was a
real rush on generators. There wasn't enough of them. Should
this is a dumb question to ask you, because you're
going to say yes, But should every dairy shed or
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milking shed or wool shed for that matter, have solar
panels on the roof, especially you know the dairy sheds
that are used twice a day.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
It is the cheapest energy that a farmer is ever
going to get now. And so the answer for that
reason is one hundred percent Yes. Makes good money in
the good times, and you know in the bad times
you've got batteries with it, Well, you'll keep the dairy
shed running when the lights go out.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
So it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Have we had the big announcement yet? I don't think
that was that was Rowena. Oh that was Rowena's car.
Speaker 12 (31:42):
Yeah, yeah, that was the big announcement all right.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I thought I was expecting something, but I thought that
was huge news.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Mate.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
I've been bagging on about this stuff for so long
and finally, you know, starting to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Well, I hope she bought a night Suzu because that's
a shameless plug time they're the sponsors of the country.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (31:57):
No, no, she bought a by d a Sea Lion,
I believe, which is, you know, when Azizu brings out
their electric Dmax or whatever it might be, we'll we'll
be right in there supporting that.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I don't know what are other cars, but someone's going
to get a cheap car on trade me, I would suspect. Okay,
what's happening in the world of electrification.
Speaker 12 (32:14):
So I've just been at field days the last couple
of days. Been absolutely amazing. Just the number of farmers
now that are installing solar, thinking about installing solar, taking
their energy destinies into their own hands. I think that's utterly,
you know, just absolutely fantastic. The shift in the narrative,
even in one year from last Farmlands has been phenomenal.
Good businesses like Farmland Flex are supporting farmers. There's now
a huge amount of solar installers here at Farmlands, so
(32:36):
at our field days, and just a huge number of
electric machines on offer now. So it's happening and I'm
really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, this is not only about farmers the field days.
It is town and country bringing them both together. There's
a lot of urban folk come, especially from the Taranga,
Hamilton and anywhere else around here. If you're a towny
and you're in the middle of Hamilton, do the numbers
stack up to put solar panel on your roof.
Speaker 12 (33:00):
One hundred percent? You'll probably get it about quarter of
the price of the grid and probably about one twentieth
of the price of diesel at the moment.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
So when you look at it like that, it's phenomenal.
What is the payback period for solar panels on.
Speaker 12 (33:11):
A rooftop and Hamilton, Oh, probably somewhere between five to
seven years, depending on how many people on your home,
but lower if you've got an electric.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Vehicle, when you're selling your home, or if you're selling
your home, do you get do you do you get
payback for the capital you put in there? Really? Will
people pay another one? I mean, what does it cost
to put solar panels on it? On just a twenty grand?
Do you get an extra twenty grand?
Speaker 12 (33:35):
The Australians now definitely do. We don't have to data
support that in New Zealand. But I mean, if if
it's lowering your costs, it should make the home more valuable.
So I think it does, but we're yet to see
it officially ratified in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
And the other thing you do is I alluded to
you are the electric cheery guy. Cherries had a can
I say, a challenging season.
Speaker 12 (33:54):
I'm kind of happy that I went through that in
all honestly, Jamie, because I was starting to get a
bit arrogant as a farmer. I think I got ontoes
in twenty nineteen and they were just falling off the trees,
and you know you've had.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Them before, you know what they're like. They're absolutely amazing,
best cherries in New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
A bad blizzard.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
MacLean might not have great I reckon.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
He does down maybe quietly, but you know, at the
end of it, we had a bad season. Ultimately that
brought me down to earth a little bit and I realized,
you know just how tough farming can be, and we'll
be back to fight another day.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, good job, you're the most wanted man in New
Zealand on the celebrity speaking circuit. That's a good off
farm in come for you.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Mike Casey is champion bloke. And the cherries are called
electric cherries, Electric cherries, and I can take it from me,
they're absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 12 (34:38):
And you've got the two cats coming up next.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That's going to be amazing. Yes, I amim I'm finishing.
Not the two runnies. They've got the two cats. These
are two women who are at their top of their
respective industries. One is the chair of Beef and Lamb
New Zealand. The other is the chief executive of Horticulture
New Zealand. Both of those industries had outstanding numbers this
morning with the soapy report. Well talk about that and
(35:00):
wrap the country with that after the break.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
A second time.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Bay that is ight away from one, Rapping the country
on day two from the field days We're at Farmland's
the two Kates Ackland and Scott, and sorry for the
wee bit of dead air with Mike Casey at the start.
I'm going to throw him under the bus because other
than that he's been excellent over the past two days.
My tech Liam Simpson from Auckland, I think he had
(35:29):
I think he had too many emersons hazed and confused
on Tuesday night. Big night out on the tron for him. Okay,
we'll start with you, Kate Ackland, Beef and Lamb New Zealand,
outstanding numbers. Let me look at yours meat and wall
and Wolves coming to the party now up fourteen percent
to fourteen point one billion. You're starting to chase down Derry.
Speaker 13 (35:49):
Well, that is absolutely our goal. But look how fantastic
is it and you can feel it here at Field
Days at the moment. You know the energy is amazing
and you know we've had an amazing result fourteen point
one percent up book followed by Horticulture.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well, let's look at those Hoart numbers with Kate Scott,
Chief Executive of Horticulture New Zealand. Where are your numbers?
Up seven point five percent to nine But then you've
left forestry in your wake, because it's not that long
ago that forestry and horticulture were neck and neck. K
We Fruit, no surprise, leading the charge up sixteen percent
(36:24):
to four point eight billion.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (36:26):
Look, kei We fruit has had an absolutely outstanding year,
and it's fair to say that they are the cornerstone
of the horticulture sector. But look, apples have also had
an amazing season. They're up close to one point two,
and then we have our Tier two crops that are
also starting to show signs of ongoing growth as well.
So look, we're incredibly excited about the future trajectory for horticulture.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Ray Smith made a special mention this morning of the
sectors that are doing it tough viticulture and you two
are both involved in that obviously arable farming. And the
other one you mentioned, which is under your portfolio, Kate Scott,
is veggie growers. That's a tough gig, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Yeah, look it is.
Speaker 14 (37:02):
Those veggie growers certainly go out and work incredibly hard
every day, and you know they are the ones that
are feeling the pressure from increase in input costs, particularly
increased fuel, increased fertilizer. When they're out there trying to
grow fresh vegetables for New Zealanders every day. So they
do have a hard gig, but look, they remain incredibly
resilient and you know, looking towards those opportunities to keep
(37:24):
you chasing down some profitability for them as well.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, and the other one he mentioned was viticulture, and
I alluded it to it. You two have both got
an interest in there. Kate, That's how you started out,
Kate Ackland here, that's how you started out your professional career,
isn't it I did.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I'm a winemaker by training who married a farmer, and yes,
I saw the lights and moved to the farm and
I haven't looked back, but do still have a vineyard
and winery and malverra and look, it is really really challenging,
incredibly challenging there. But I think you know, the green
shoots are starting to appear on some of our markets.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Has the world changed to the younger people of today
not want to get sozzled like the boom as she
used to my stereotyping here.
Speaker 13 (38:03):
I know the millennials, the millennials will save the wine industry.
Kate and I are millennials. We went to high school
together and we're doing our beast between us to save
the wine.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Or you two went to high school together? Yeah, what
the school was that?
Speaker 13 (38:13):
Andegate?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Oh my goodness, Well you live in Bannockburn now, Kate Scott,
you made the move I think from Wellington? Or are
you back in Wellington?
Speaker 14 (38:22):
No, we're living in Wellington, but we still have our
piece of bannic Burn paradise.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Now that is paradise. You've got a vineyard down there.
How are you going with that?
Speaker 14 (38:29):
Well, look, it's fair to say it wasn't a great year.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
This year.
Speaker 14 (38:31):
We didn't harvest any grapes. We chose to leave them
on the vine and that's the second year in a row.
So can attest to the challenges that the wine sector
is facing. But look, I'm no expert at making it
like Kate's. My expertise might lie in the drinking it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Well, let's just finish with the future for both of
your industries. You'll start with you, Kate Eckland. It would
appear to me that red meat in particular has a
wonderful future and this is off the back of the
protein boom.
Speaker 13 (38:55):
People want it, people absolutely want it, and you know,
The great thing is it's happening in all of our markets,
really really strong demand and strong prices in all markets,
and we're not sort of seeing that usual turn away
to chicken or pork for some of those turnative proteins.
The other thing that was mentioned this morning is wooll
really good to see a big uptick in wool prices finally,
(39:16):
and I hear that the auction might have been up
seven percent again today.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh yes, I've got some Rachel shar has sent me
some big, big numbers for the strong waol industry. Just
find a word from you, Kate Scott. Horticulture especially kyw fruit,
it's a super food. Is the future limitless?
Speaker 14 (39:33):
Look, I think the future is looking pretty bright for
the horticulture sector. We have ten billion in sights and
we are going to try and keep on the coattails
of our friends in the sheep and beef sector. So
we are really excited about the future trajectory for horticulture.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
There we go, the two Kates wrapping the country on
day two from the Field Days, Kate Scott and Kate Ackland.
Tomorrow on the show, We've got a special treat for
you if you wander past here at about thirty. We
had the Prince of the Provinces on the show today.
Tomorrow we're pulling out all stops. We've got the King. Yes,
(40:08):
grumpy old Winston's on here tomorrow and I'm looking forward
to having an argument with him, but I love the
man all the same. Okay, we're gonna We'll be back
tomorrow and enjoy the rest of your Thursday.
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