March 4, 2026 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Shane Jones, Phil Holden, Alex Tait, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Isuzu, get Demo deals
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Today Squeaking.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Gay New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, brought to you
by SUSU and Farmlands. It's Golden Shares time, It's Sharing
Playlist time, and top of the list is always akadeca
ac DC. We're heading to the Golden Shares tomorrow or
I am anyhow really looking forward to its Saturday night,
the roof will be lifted off the Memorial Hall in
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Marsterton not only for the Golden Shares Finals but also
the World Sharing Champs. We're going to go there shortly.
The chief executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association
is there on day two of the Golden Shares and
the World Champs. They've just launched the Live Well, Sharewell
campaign featuring legends Roland Smith, he's trying to win the
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second world title this weekend and Sam Whitelock. Of course
he is the farm Strong ambassador. Talking about sport, I'm
looking forward to this one. Alex Tait, I've run across
him a few times at golf tournaments. This is a
guy who played a wee bit of cricket for the
Black Caps in the late nineties, had to go at
a professional golf career. He was an A grade squash player.
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These days he's a professional caddie at Tara Eatie and
a very keen hunter. So we're going to have a
talk to him about hunting during the roar, because apparently
acc are a wee bit worried about this because it
costs the nation of fortune. The injury rate doubles during
the roar getting underway right around the country. Chris Russell's
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our assie correspondent. Gee, it's getting messy in the Middle East,
isn't it. They've got Australia has some meat marooned quite
literally in the Middle East. They got nowhere for it
to go. Will it happen to us? We're going to
have a look at that one as well. We'll do
rural news and sports news for you. But we have
got a treat to kick off the show. Our two
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are Shane Jones, the Prince of the Provinces. Next, here's
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the Prince of the Provinces, self titled Martua Shane Jones. Shane,
you're a very worldly man. How worried should we be
about the world at the moment. Put this into some
historic perspective for me.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Please, well, whenever there are missiles flying, ships being sunk,
apparently in the Indian Ocean, even us distant kiwis nestled
in the South Pacific are going to be effected and impacted.
But I want everyone to remember we're already past a
bunch of regulations last year requiring the fuel companies to
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increase their holdings here in New Zealand. I'm told that
there is nine on fifty days. I'm worth of holdings here.
But although we derive our fuel and whatnot from South
Korea and Singapore, the challenges where's the raw material going
to come from? So no, no, it's definitely hawkhay like
our focus from Treasury and our Finance minister on the issue.
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But I'm really happy that we passed the regulations in
anticipation that New Zealand would need to stall more fuel
in the event there was geopolitical excesses.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
How big a cock cup was it? Mothballing Marsden point.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Look, there are two major snaffoos in the energy sector.
The first one was de cinder canceling. The oil and
gas industry. And the second one was Megan Woods canceling
and selling now closing down the refinery, an extraordinarily stupid
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thing to have done in a vain attempt to burnish
New Zealand's credentials that we were single handedly going to
save the planet, where much the poorer for it, and
not a single listener to your show should ever doubt
the Labor Party had every chance to maintain that asset
in ownership. They stood by and actually allowed the sale
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of the and we're much the poorer for it, as
we are learning right now.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We currently have the PM misspeaking and Winston sharpest attack
from South America on foreign policy? Have we got the
wrong guy running the country? Could Shane Jones the Kingmaker
become king? Does the Kingmaker want to be king? And
does that make you prince?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, let's not get too aspirational about monarchy. There's a
certain prince in another part of the world who is
in a great deal of drama. But look, coming back
to Winston, I mean care we should be not only
respectful but reassured that we have such a wily navigator.
We have someone who is speaking in a vein that
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gives reassurance to Kiwis that we're not going to be
bullied by the extreme hypocrisy of the Green Party or
other self appointed political experts. And at the same time
we support each other in our coalition arrangements. But Winston
is exclusively the Foreign Affairs minister. When he's back from
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Latin America over the weekend, you'll hear a lot more
from him.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Could we have a scenario where the king maker has
the balance of power and gets a larger proportion of
the vote maybe ten twelve, who knows fifteen percent and
demands to be prime minister.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well, Winston got over thirteen percent of the vote in
nineteen ninety six. It's not our style, it's not his
style to make demands of any nature, because Kiwi's can
turn on the head of a dime. Really, Kiwi's absolutely
Kiwi's know that the elections on November the scene.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
He said, it's not in Winston's nature to make demands.
Did I missare that? Did you misspeak?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The reality is the demand comes from the public. The
public reflect through their voting power, how much authority or
influence each party is going to enjoy. Talk that somehow
we're demanding to form a particular character formation of the government.
That's up to the public and my job and Winston's
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job and the both of us. And we're going to
go around New Zealand ery nook and cranny asking for
the public to back us, and I believe they will.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I'll take that as a yes. Winston wants to
be Prime Minister back to the Middle East? Could this
easily stall or derail the economic recovery? Inflations the number
one threat to the economy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, number one on people's minds, Jamie. You know as
well as I do. Even the money floating around the
farming sector is up at dargeable recently is the cost
of living. But you know, you always do have other issues,
not the least of which is the environment. But then
there's a lot of businesses under pressure as well, Jamie,
U South Island is Why is your largest city, christ
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Church threatening to pour all the sewage over my beloved
marine farming industry on the upskirts of chrish Church. Why?
Why is the Bromley Why am I hearing it? The
Bromley coupon is about to be deluged over all sorts
of oyster growing and salmon growing and fish growing enterprises
down there. The hecker you South Island is up to.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, I don't know a North Islander wants to pollute
some of the South Island water systems with this gold mining.
This will get a bite in Central Otargi.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
The Matua is coming not to give a sermon from
the mount, but to bring overdue economic opportunity to the
South Island. And I know I got criticized for being
unkind to Sir sam Neil, and I was told by
a member of the public, don't boot a Labrador. But
the reality is if you get involved in these debates,
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even if at Sea and Taylor, I am not going
to pull my punches because I'm standing up for the
garden variety Kiwi whose kids are going all over to
Australia to dig up somewhere around Calgoley. And we've got
these self appointed guardians who have only succeeded in pulling
up the ladder and denying other quser charts.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Have you found a venue, in a time, a date
for your debate with Saren Taylor?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Well number one, I have no idea why see, and
I bothered to take up my invite, but I'm very
happy that he has and look, debating politically is a
pugilistic sport now. The last time I heard that he
wanted to have a debate but no audience, and he
wanted to get Paddy Gower involved. Of course I promoted
you until Sean Plunkett got jealous and said it should
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be him. But I'll back you, mate, if I want
an audience there he can pick fifty, I can pick fifty,
he can pick seventy five. I'll pick twenty five and
have an old fair dinkm and yard, not scrap but debate.
But you know, I like going soft on the personality,
hard on the issue. But these Tarrasf people, they've tried
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to demand my personality. They're leaving me alone now because
they know I've got new Zealanders on my site.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
A final question for your Golden Share is World Sharing Championships.
At the moment you grew up on a Northland beef
farm that you had a few sheep running around, are
you any good on the end of a hand piece?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
No, I'm sorry. We had a guy Sampson to Futa
in the Playcares from in and around. My neighbor Steve
McNally he's very handy. I had a cousin, MiG l Lloyd.
I think he shared single handedly millions of sheep himself
in his lifetime. He's a good ten or fifteen years
older than me. No, no, I was on a farm
where we were milking the odder, and that's not being
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on the public purse.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Shane, I reckon and the sharing shed. You'd be quite
good in the press tramping the wall.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
There's too many tough women in front of me to
do that job.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Bro Oh, you've got the god Gavin pH Zeke for
that job. Shane Jones, Prince of the Province, is always
good to have your time on the country.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, thanks Shane, always entertaining an informative on the country.
I'm showing my age a weave. It about tramping the wall.
Of course, for those of you who haven't spent much
time in the wall shed in the old days used
to chuck the wall into the press and the presser
would have to jump up and tramp it down the
four corners. Get as much wall as you could into
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the bale, but not the heavy than one hundred and
eighty kilos by memory. Of course, it's all automated. Now
it's hydraulic, but Shane back in the day would have
been a good wall Tramper. I can tell you that
we're going to the Golden Shar's next. Pill Holden, Chief
Executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association. I've just
launched Live Well, Share Well. We'll tell you all about that.
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But before I forget, we want a week I'd love
to give away one hundred thousand dollars and I sort
of am an association with a Rabobank. It's the tenth
edition of the Rabobank Good Deeds Competition and to celebrate
are they're giving away a whopping one hundred thousand dollars
ten prices of ten thousand dollars a each to upgrade
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ten rural community hubs across New Zealand ten grand each
make a real difference, and one lucky prize. We'll also
receive a day of free labor from the teams at
Rabobank in the country. They bring plenty. We don't offer much,
but the Rabobanks staff love getting out of the office
and doing a day on the tools. So if you
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want to enter the easiest way for your rural community hub,
it might be your rugby club, it could be your
local church, could be anything, your local school. The easiest
way is to text good the word good to five
double O nine and then we'll send you back the
link to enter. Entriests close at the end of the month,
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so make sure you enter before then. Up next, we're
off to Masterton where I'm going to tomorrow day two
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of the Golden Shares and World Sharing An All Handling
Championships in Marsterton. Really looking forward to broadcasting the show
live there tomorrow. But before we do that, let's set
the scene with Phil Holden. He's the Chief executive of
the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association and today, Phil, at Masterton,
you have launched the Live Well, Share Well program. Now
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you've got a couple of stars fronting this for you,
none other than a guy who could be the World
Sharing Champion, Roland Smith. He's representing the sharing industry, and
of course the association is with farm Strong. Who better
than farm Strong Ambassador Sam Whitelocke. Good afternoon, Hey, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yep, we've got a couple of icons representing us, no question, all, tell.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Me a wee bit about your background, Chief executive of
the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association. I take it Phil
that you're a gnarly old former sharing contractor. What's your
CV on the hand piece?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I have no hand piece at CV at all. In fact,
the last time I was probably in a wool shed
was from a cousin's twenty first at, writes Blosh Himselfland.
So I'm just the guy. I'm the guy in a
suit that tries to kick the wheels gun.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Haven't we crossed paths before? Weren't you involved with TALMA
the Tractor Machinery Association.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, we have. We've had a chat about that and
I still am involved in that. So again, it's very
similar to the sharing contractors, a very small part time
gag in the primary sector, and I really love it.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You're a guy in a suit a gun for hire.
Tell me about Live Well, Sharewell, Roland Smith, Sam Whitelock.
What's happening well?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I mean the.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Driver, the genesis behind it. We've been working with Farmstrong
for a number of years to try and find a
program or project that we could really hold hands on
together and launch, and that's been the genesis behind Livewell Sharewell.
There's been a lot of focus lately on animal welfare,
particularly given some of the issues that we were dealing
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with early in twenty five. And the focus of this
is on the people, because at the end of the day,
behind every handpiece, every rowsy on the floor, the person
in the pen, that there is a human aspect. And
so we've decided and we've went able to focus our
energy on this program, to put our focus in on
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the people to make sure they've got they're looking after
themselves in the right way, they're thinking about the right
sort of things, and they've got some little tools and
skills and techniques to help their own well being, particularly
when they're under a pressured situation.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I must say I've got a bit of a background
on a hand piece as a farmer. Sharer did enough
if it failed to know, I wasn't keen to do
it full time for a job. It was too hard,
it was too hard to work. But I'd have to
say the sharing industries changed a lot over the years
that I've been involved. It's much more professional now. Sharers
and wool handlers for that matter, look after themselves physically
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a lot better than they used to. Ditto with animal
welfare in the shed.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, a hulderd percent.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And so this is just about providing a bit of
a toolbox and a reference point for those our people
to access and just you know, take them to the
next step and support them in a way that they
may not have had access to in the in the past.
So and you're a hundred percent right. I mean the
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professionalism in the set there is first class. There's no
doubt about that. In New Zealand is still highly regarded international.
I guess we'll find out a little bit more about
that over the next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, exactly. And we're launching a podcast. Hamish mackay, my
off side of fill in here on the Country, has
just launched the first in their podcast series about being
farm Strong, with none other than Roland Smith.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Yep, well there's the man, right, So, a former world champion,
eight time Golden Share winner. The irony is that he
was Sam Whitelocke sharing contractor when Roley had his run
in the Hawks Bay. So when we shot the material
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for all the resources that are available on the farm
Strong site, I mean they knew each other. So there's
one there where Roland is teaching Sam how to share
a sheep that's quite quite quite quite quite cool. No,
you know, he is an icon, there's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And he's in the New Zealand team.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And he's every chance, he's every chance to win that
World Sharing title again. I hope he does or he
doesn't tell her Henderson.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, well that's right, yep. Let's hope someone from New
Zealand does.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Phill Holden, chief Executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association.
Good to catch up. You've launched it today, Live Well,
Share Well at the Golden Shares. I'll see you there tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Look forward to it, Jamie, take care.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I well, thank you. Phil as a man who wears
many hats. I think he's also the chair of Wellington
and the Hurricanes rugby as well, and a Southlander to boot.
Southlanders are running the show. We'll tell you more about
that new podcast with Hamish mackay and Roland Smith. Shortly,
Michelle's going to wander in. We're going to do rural
news and sports news. How good was the Black Cat's
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victory overnight into the T twenty World Cup Final. I'm
going to ask Alex Tatus coming up what he made
of Finn Allen's innings one hundred off, thirty three balls
before the end of the hour. Chris Russell, our Australian correspondent,
meet marooned in the Middle East and banning and this
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is such a good thing. Banning the word milk the
plant juice. It's not oat milk, it is oat juice.
Chris is pretty hot under the collar about that one,
as am I milk needs to come from a mammoth up.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Next, Rural news and sports news.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nothing screens sharing more than ac DC and Thunderstruck. Go
to any speed share and I guarantee you put the
house on it. You'll hear this song. Hey, just before
we go to Michelle with the latest and rural news.
We talked about it a week bit with Phil Holden.
The sharing industry been under the pump lately, with fewer
people in the sheds, longer days, tougher conditions all around,
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and when the pressure ramps up, it can really take
a toll on your mental fitness. That's why we've launched
the first episode of Being Farm Strong, the podcast. It's
a really good listen. It's called, as we said to
Phil Holden, Live Well, Share Well. It dives right into
what light's really like in the sheds right now. In
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our first episode, Hamish mackay chats with Sharing Legend, a
bloke who wants to win the World Sharing Championship title
and the Golden Shares title over the weekend. Are Roland
Smith about the reality Cruise are facing now, Michelle, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Did you ever work in the sharing shed?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
No, but I have been in sharing sheds as a youngster.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right well, that's half a box tip. It was interesting
because this is a message obviously from farm Strong and
I'm thinking cruise about the reality cruise are facing because
in my day they were always sharing gangs.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Actually yeah it was gangs. It was gangs and I was.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Here, Yes, but gangs may not be politically correct anymore.
Did you think of that?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So anyhow, I will continue on. So it's all about
the realities Cruise splash, gangs are facing, and more importantly,
how to look after your well being when the work
gets intense. Rolling teamed up with farm Strongly Ambassador, as
we heard Sam Whitelock, to create practical mental fitness tools
for sharers and wall handlers. So if you're in the sheds,
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check out Being farm Strong Episode one live well, Share well,
powered by us the country Here on iHeart and find
out how you can power up your mental fitness. Here's
the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
News, the country's world news with cop Cadet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn bow of brand. Visit steel for
dot co dot Nz for your locals doggist.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Thanks Jamie. Federated Farmers has released the results of its
latest farm confidence survey. Was nearly six hundred and fifty
farmers responding in late January and early February. Seventy percent
say their farm is currently profitable, the highest level recorded
since the survey began in two thousand and nine. The
mid season survey also shows farmer confidence and current economic
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conditions is at its strongest.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Since seventy percent are profitable. Is that what you're saying?
Look at that, you're reading it right? Record prices would
never been better? What's going wrong with the thirty percent?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
To ask?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Might have to ask? Federated far farm was about that.
That's going to say, how to make a buck? Now
you'll never make a buck in I'm sorry, Carol.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Finished the news.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yes, why not?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Arable farmers remain least profitable group at fort not surprising.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, okay, so some of those guys are battling and
the poor old grape growers.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
And despite the positive conditions right now, many farmers say
they are still uncertain about the future, pointing to rising
costs and the volatile markets is a key con certain
of course, quite volatile out there at the moment with
everything going on.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, I take that back, Federated Farmers didn't think out
my response very well, did I Let's see if I
can do better with sport.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Sports on the country with AFCO one hunder sent ke.
We owned and trusted it.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That's sorry. And you might have heard New Zealand Rugby
board chair Dave David Kirk talking to the Husk this
morning on z B. Kirk says or denies, there's an
underlying problem behind a flurry of high level staff moving
on from New Zealand Rugby that includes the exit of
the chief executive and the All Blacks coach. Not that
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the All Blacks coach had a choice in his exit,
Kirk says, is nothing sinister behind the exodus at all.
I'm not totally sure I believe that, David. Anyhow, Manchester
United have retained third and Football's Premier League. Despite a
two to one lost in Newcastle, Arsenal extended their lead
from five to seven points with a one nil win
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over Brighton. Manchester City dropped further points via a tool
draw with Nottingham Forest, Chelsea beat Aston Villa for one
and west Ham overcame Fulham one NILA And that's sports news.
Up next, we're going to continue the sporting theme because
this bloke used to be a black cap. He used
to be a professional golfer. He's now a professional caddy.
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He was an a grade squash player. But for the
purposes of our chat, Alex Tate is a really keen
hunter and the stats around injuries during the roar that's
when you go out and shoot deer, and we encourage
you to do that because feral dere are a real pest,
some real injury issues. We're going to look at that
with Alex Tate. Next, who's taking a break from caddying
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at Tara Eaty. For all you keen hunters out there,
the raw is about to get underway now. Acc Datus
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shows severe hunting injuries doubled compared to the average month,
with forty percent affecting knee and shoulders. Now we're going
to discuss this with a very keen hunter, a very
keen golfer, and a very good cricket player, Alex Tait,
former Black Cap of course, professional golfer, was a professional
golfer these days, almost a professional caddy and a keen hunter, Alex.
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I just want to start with the story of the day,
and you're probably too busy to have a look at it.
But those black Caps for Allen one hundred off thirty
three balls? Did that happen in your day when you
were playing for ND and the black Caps.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
It's a different game now, Jamie. I'm quite glad I'm
not playing it these days. It really is. I mean,
it is just a twenty twenty version either it's whether
you're talking about Test match or fifty over cricket is
just a completely different, completely different game to what we
played back in the nineties. Two hundred and forty was
a pretty decent score back in nineteen ninety six. So
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pretty glad I'm not playing it these days.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, you're real all around that You're a very good golfer,
a very good cricket player, you were a very good
squash play any good on the end of a rifle.
Can you shoot straight?
Speaker 9 (25:34):
I'm not too bad. I guess you'd have to ask
a few of my hunting buddies whether I'm any good
or not. But yeah, I've been a keen hunter for
probably twenty five twenty six years now. It was always
a neat little getaway from me when I had a
week or two off from sports. So still enjoy it,
Still enjoy it. Still get out the one I can now.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
In the commercial break when we were teeing up this interview,
I didn't realize that, I said to you, because you're
a Northland through and through, and I said, as the
has the raw started yet in Northland? Then you told
me there's no deer north of Auckland. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
No, it depends. Woodhall Forest is probably the most northern
deer heerd in New Zealand, so places like Helensville and
cal Copp, places like that. You'll get a few private
farms that have had a few strays come out of
Woodhall Forests. So and if you're talking in that's fellow deer.
If if you're talking about red there, I would guess
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Port Whitecadow or the Kaimi is something like that is
probably as far north as red deers ventured in New
Zealand at the stage. So as far as I know,
DOC are not particularly keen on any any deer in
Northland at this stage. But yeah, that's about as far
north as they come.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
The stats aren't good, and as I said at the beginning,
severe injuries double compared to your average month. This is
when the raws on these injuries result on an average
of seventy six days away from work.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
I must have I've touched wood. I've been pretty lucky
as far as that's concerned. Probably since I've been working
here at tarah Eddie, I've I've been going hunting with
three or four three or four friends or sort of
southwest North Island. So but previous to that, I was,
you know, I didn't have the luxury of having any
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hunting hunting companions, so I spent a lot of time
in the Chimis. I lived in Meta Meta for five years,
spent a lot of time in the Cimise, which is
pretty fix stuff. So I guess I had to be
a little more more careful than a lot of guys
that have got hunting buddies. But as I say, the
last seven or eight years. I've been lucky enough to
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have three or four guys that I go in with
all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Now, So tell me about Alex Tate, the golfer, the cricketer,
the professional caddy. What you're up to. Are you living
the dream at Tara Eatie caddying for the rich and famous?
Speaker 9 (28:00):
It's I do enjoy it. I do enjoy it, especially
like I'm nearing the mid fifties now. So I basically
walk ten to twelve kilometers every day, which keeps me
reasonably fit. And because we're not actually employed by TARI,
we're outside contractors. So if I want to go fishing tomorrow,
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I just put across in the notebook and I go fishing.
If I don't work, I ain't get paid. So it's
but basically up to me what days I work, how
much I work, when I go fishing, when I go hunting.
So I'm not sort of strapped into a nine to
five job as it is.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So, yeah, last last weekend you were at Millbrook. You
were caddying for I think Paul Blackwell, one of the
leading business people in this country. He's been a sponsor
of Dan Hellier. You were in that same group must
have been a thrill. How good does that young man
flush the ball?
Speaker 9 (28:56):
He's one of the best off scene And I said
that to Paul the first time we played with him
back in twenty twenty. Just especially his eyes. Someone that
hits the ball so far's he's accurate, distance, distance controls
just incredible. But literally every time he hits a goal
(29:18):
for you can just tell that it's just it's it's
just been hammered. It really is good fun to watch him.
And like I said to you, we had Stevie Williams
in our group again and he made a prediction after
about nine holes. We're sort of talking about his ball
striking and Stevie just looked at me and said, mate,
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there's something different about him this year. He just looks
more composed. He looks a little bit more mature now
he's had a bit of time in Europe. He just
said he shoots twenty five this week and wins it.
And he was three shots out. He shot twenty two
under and won it. That was after nine holes. So
here's an idea of how good he is. If someone
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like Stevie Williams can make a comment like that.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, and Ash Party was in your group as well.
You are mixing with the rich and famous. Final question
for you, Alex Tate, because I know you've got to
go away and do some caddying at in New Zealand's
most prestigious golf course, Tara eighty. Who's the most famous
person you've cadded for?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
He carried too many famous ones, a lot of war blacks,
a lot of cricketers, but I have had I didn't
cared they for him. But I have been in the
same group as Alice Cooper. He was here a few
years ago and he's a good golfer. Here's a good golfer.
He actually played this is going back I'm guessing four
or five years now. He actually played it on his
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seventy second birthday. I think it was February the fourth
from memory, and it was his seventy second birthday and
he was saying the previous year he had played one
hundred and ninety one concerts in a calendar year at
the age of seventy one. So pretty such sort of
a guy. But yeah, now he's a good golfer. An
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interesting story. So it's good to even in the group.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Hey, Alex Tait, I could chat all day. Former black cap,
former professional golfer these days professional caddie at Tara Etie,
you're living the dream and if you're out there hunters,
be careful during the roar. Thanks for your time, Alex Pleasure,
thank you, Jamie shut On you Alex, thanks for some
of your time and your lunch break. It is fourteen
away from one up.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Next.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Ossie correspondent Chris Russell, he's there, Ossie correspondent, long standing
Chris Russell, based out of Sydney. He's on the road
at the moment. We find him in a place called
Bundon noon. Now, Chris, is that anywhere near one of
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my favorite Australian holiday destinations, Bonnie Doone, My god, The
Castle is a great movie.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Now it's now in there and sadly it's Bonnie durn
or any proposed airport, happily, and it's more English than
the English here. You drive around here. We lived in
England for some years, as you know, and I could
square I was driving around East Anglia. It's a beautiful
part of the world. So we're just at the end
of this particular caravan trip. We'll be back in Sydney today. Now.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Talking about Sydney, our former Prime Minister, Jasinda r Dern
is moving and she could be your next door neighbor, cross.
I see that she wants to settle somewhere on the
northern beaches of Sydney where all you rich people live.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Yeah, that's it. I saw the heave on the paper.
J Sinda chefs to Sydney. Play on words, but yeah,
she apparently has taken a liking to moving over here,
and that's the pretty richy part of Sydney. She's moving
to the northern Beaches, Palm Beach where A Home and
Away is filmed. Mano vailed the while all of those
beautiful areas up there. That's where she's shifting. So she'll
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need to bring probably around four to five million dollars
with it, buy a nice little house there, three bedroom house,
and we look forward to her seeing a light of
moving to God's Country.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Meat stranded mid Ocean in the Middle East. This is
an Australian shipment. It's messy over there. It's going to
get MESSI this is just the beginning of stalled trade.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I put it to you, Chris, Yes it is, and
I think we're going to see lots of changes from this.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
There's about fifteen billion dollars, they say, potentially effect on
Australian trade. And we've currently got about a billion dollars
worth of products sitting on the water with nowhere to go.
A lot of the meat that has been sent over
to the Middle East, and they're huge importers of meat
from US. Of course, is all labeled in Persian and
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Arabic writing. Can't be re shifted and sent off to
anybody anywhere else because they wouldn't be able to read
any of the labeling. So I'm quite sure what they're
going to do with that when the time runs out
in terms of its use by date be expensive. Obviously,
no one was expecting this to be this quick and
to happen that quickly, and that's the key to a
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successful war campaign. But yes, I think we haven't yet
seen the full implications. I noticed Jamie in the paper
the day that diesel in the northern Terra Trusius, of course,
a very remote part of Australia, is selling already for
four dollars a liter.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, the price gougs have started already.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, exactly. And I guess that was inevitable because there
aren't too much competition.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Up there gross value of agricultural production breaks your twenty
thirty target of one hundred billion early. You like us,
you've done it early. But from one hundred billion or
an excess of one hundred billion, you're talking about agricultural
production being only worth seventy seven billion in the next
farming season. That's a big fall from grace.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah. Well, you know they're saying this is definitely a spike,
and you know we're celebrating. Of course, one hundred billion
is is a great target. We've reached it four years early,
which is wonderful, but it's spected to dip due to
the partly the trade conditions and also the seasonal conditions
that we're forecasting for next year. When they set one
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hundred billion dollars, they actually thought that was a pretty
bold target. And you know, twenty eighteen nineteen when they
set that targ the value was about sixty billion, so
they thought we've got a long way to go, but
they worked hard. We've certainly seen a perfect storm of
events of climate, of production, of pricing and so on
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this year. But certainly as far as ABARS is concerned,
and the ABARS Outlook Conference is on at the moment
down in Canberra, they're seeing crop prices expected to decline
mark many global markets will decline, and they're seeing next year,
that is the twenty five twenty six year, be about
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ninety five billion, and potentially the following year it could
be down to seventy seven billion, So that's quite a
big drop.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Here's one that I fully support. Dairy farmers call for
a ban on the word milk for plant juice. It's
like oat milk, it's not oat milk, oat juice. Obviously
following a UK victory in their High Court, so you'd
be right behind this one as well.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Oh, this has been a fat hovey horse of mine
for a long time. In fact, I have been known
to go into the supermarkets for the text to color
crossing out the word milk on all of their oat
milk products and writing the word juice underneath. A great
risk to my future accommodation. But you know, they had
a big victory in the UK. The High Court has
ruled over there that a company that was talking about
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post milk products they were calling their oat juices and
almond juices. That's been ruled as illegal in England. And
now they're calling here in Australia, the dairy industry is
calling to do the same thing over here. I see
in Canada it's also been banned. Can only call things
that come out of an animal milk, and they're looking
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at the same problem with yogurts and cheeses. So let's
hope that finally a little hard victory that we've been
working on for years over here comes to fruition, and
things will be called juice when they're juice, and milk
when their milk.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jamie, your bang on, Chris Russell, thanks for your time
from OZ. Catch next week.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
No worry again, unless, of course, the.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
World blows up between now and then. Here's hoping fingers
crossed up. Next we wrap the country with some of
your feedback on the text machine. Okay, wrapping the country
with some of your feedback on the text machine. Mister
Luxon needs media lessons from the old master Winnie. Comrade
(37:40):
Jacinda had no qualms and trying to control the media
with bribes and funding, etc. Another text says a foolish
idea you have, Jamie about Peter's he will fail before
the election. Geez, text, I don't know about that. I
think he's going to have a good election result. I
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reckon this will be the last election he fights. There
you go mark it down on this day quoting me.
Last election he fights, and he's going to make it
a good one. This is his legacy election and don't
rule out a run for Prime minister. We'll catch you
tomorrow from the Golden Shears and World Champs and Masterden.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
Gay New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, brought to you
by SUSU and Farmlands. It's Golden Shares time, It's Sharing
Playlist time, and top of the list is always akadeca
ac DC. We're heading to the Golden Shares tomorrow or
I am anyhow really looking forward to its Saturday night,
the roof will be lifted off the Memorial Hall in
(01:08):
Marsterton not only for the Golden Shares Finals but also
the World Sharing Champs. We're going to go there shortly.
The chief executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association
is there on day two of the Golden Shares and
the World Champs. They've just launched the Live Well, Sharewell
campaign featuring legends Roland Smith, he's trying to win the
(01:29):
second world title this weekend and Sam Whitelock. Of course
he is the farm Strong ambassador. Talking about sport, I'm
looking forward to this one. Alex Tait, I've run across
him a few times at golf tournaments. This is a
guy who played a wee bit of cricket for the
Black Caps in the late nineties, had to go at
a professional golf career. He was an A grade squash player.
(01:53):
These days he's a professional caddie at Tara Eatie and
a very keen hunter. So we're going to have a
talk to him about hunting during the roar, because apparently
acc are a wee bit worried about this because it
costs the nation of fortune. The injury rate doubles during
the roar getting underway right around the country. Chris Russell's
(02:13):
our assie correspondent. Gee, it's getting messy in the Middle East,
isn't it. They've got Australia has some meat marooned quite
literally in the Middle East. They got nowhere for it
to go. Will it happen to us? We're going to
have a look at that one as well. We'll do
rural news and sports news for you. But we have
got a treat to kick off the show. Our two
(02:35):
are Shane Jones, the Prince of the Provinces. Next, here's
(03:01):
the Prince of the Provinces, self titled Martua Shane Jones. Shane,
you're a very worldly man. How worried should we be
about the world at the moment. Put this into some
historic perspective for me.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Please, well, whenever there are missiles flying, ships being sunk,
apparently in the Indian Ocean, even us distant kiwis nestled
in the South Pacific are going to be effected and impacted.
But I want everyone to remember we're already past a
bunch of regulations last year requiring the fuel companies to
(03:37):
increase their holdings here in New Zealand. I'm told that
there is nine on fifty days. I'm worth of holdings here.
But although we derive our fuel and whatnot from South
Korea and Singapore, the challenges where's the raw material going
to come from? So no, no, it's definitely hawkhay like
our focus from Treasury and our Finance minister on the issue.
(04:00):
But I'm really happy that we passed the regulations in
anticipation that New Zealand would need to stall more fuel
in the event there was geopolitical excesses.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
How big a cock cup was it? Mothballing Marsden point.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Look, there are two major snaffoos in the energy sector.
The first one was de cinder canceling. The oil and
gas industry. And the second one was Megan Woods canceling
and selling now closing down the refinery, an extraordinarily stupid
(04:36):
thing to have done in a vain attempt to burnish
New Zealand's credentials that we were single handedly going to
save the planet, where much the poorer for it, and
not a single listener to your show should ever doubt
the Labor Party had every chance to maintain that asset
in ownership. They stood by and actually allowed the sale
(04:59):
of the and we're much the poorer for it, as
we are learning right now.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We currently have the PM misspeaking and Winston sharpest attack
from South America on foreign policy? Have we got the
wrong guy running the country? Could Shane Jones the Kingmaker
become king? Does the Kingmaker want to be king? And
does that make you prince?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, let's not get too aspirational about monarchy. There's a
certain prince in another part of the world who is
in a great deal of drama. But look, coming back
to Winston, I mean care we should be not only
respectful but reassured that we have such a wily navigator.
We have someone who is speaking in a vein that
(05:44):
gives reassurance to Kiwis that we're not going to be
bullied by the extreme hypocrisy of the Green Party or
other self appointed political experts. And at the same time
we support each other in our coalition arrangements. But Winston
is exclusively the Foreign Affairs minister. When he's back from
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Latin America over the weekend, you'll hear a lot more
from him.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Could we have a scenario where the king maker has
the balance of power and gets a larger proportion of
the vote maybe ten twelve, who knows fifteen percent and
demands to be prime minister.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well, Winston got over thirteen percent of the vote in
nineteen ninety six. It's not our style, it's not his
style to make demands of any nature, because Kiwi's can
turn on the head of a dime. Really, Kiwi's absolutely
Kiwi's know that the elections on November the scene.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
He said, it's not in Winston's nature to make demands.
Did I missare that? Did you misspeak?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The reality is the demand comes from the public. The
public reflect through their voting power, how much authority or
influence each party is going to enjoy. Talk that somehow
we're demanding to form a particular character formation of the government.
That's up to the public and my job and Winston's
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job and the both of us. And we're going to
go around New Zealand ery nook and cranny asking for
the public to back us, and I believe they will.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I'll take that as a yes. Winston wants to
be Prime Minister back to the Middle East? Could this
easily stall or derail the economic recovery? Inflations the number
one threat to the economy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, number one on people's minds, Jamie. You know as
well as I do. Even the money floating around the
farming sector is up at dargeable recently is the cost
of living. But you know, you always do have other issues,
not the least of which is the environment. But then
there's a lot of businesses under pressure as well, Jamie,
U South Island is Why is your largest city, christ
(07:52):
Church threatening to pour all the sewage over my beloved
marine farming industry on the upskirts of chrish Church. Why?
Why is the Bromley Why am I hearing it? The
Bromley coupon is about to be deluged over all sorts
of oyster growing and salmon growing and fish growing enterprises
down there. The hecker you South Island is up to.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, I don't know a North Islander wants to pollute
some of the South Island water systems with this gold mining.
This will get a bite in Central Otargi.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
The Matua is coming not to give a sermon from
the mount, but to bring overdue economic opportunity to the
South Island. And I know I got criticized for being
unkind to Sir sam Neil, and I was told by
a member of the public, don't boot a Labrador. But
the reality is if you get involved in these debates,
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even if at Sea and Taylor, I am not going
to pull my punches because I'm standing up for the
garden variety Kiwi whose kids are going all over to
Australia to dig up somewhere around Calgoley. And we've got
these self appointed guardians who have only succeeded in pulling
up the ladder and denying other quser charts.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Have you found a venue, in a time, a date
for your debate with Saren Taylor?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Well number one, I have no idea why see, and
I bothered to take up my invite, but I'm very
happy that he has and look, debating politically is a
pugilistic sport now. The last time I heard that he
wanted to have a debate but no audience, and he
wanted to get Paddy Gower involved. Of course I promoted
you until Sean Plunkett got jealous and said it should
(09:29):
be him. But I'll back you, mate, if I want
an audience there he can pick fifty, I can pick fifty,
he can pick seventy five. I'll pick twenty five and
have an old fair dinkm and yard, not scrap but debate.
But you know, I like going soft on the personality,
hard on the issue. But these Tarrasf people, they've tried
(09:51):
to demand my personality. They're leaving me alone now because
they know I've got new Zealanders on my site.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
A final question for your Golden Share is World Sharing Championships.
At the moment you grew up on a Northland beef
farm that you had a few sheep running around, are
you any good on the end of a hand piece?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
No, I'm sorry. We had a guy Sampson to Futa
in the Playcares from in and around. My neighbor Steve
McNally he's very handy. I had a cousin, MiG l Lloyd.
I think he shared single handedly millions of sheep himself
in his lifetime. He's a good ten or fifteen years
older than me. No, no, I was on a farm
where we were milking the odder, and that's not being
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on the public purse.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Shane, I reckon and the sharing shed. You'd be quite
good in the press tramping the wall.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
There's too many tough women in front of me to
do that job.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Bro Oh, you've got the god Gavin pH Zeke for
that job. Shane Jones, Prince of the Province, is always
good to have your time on the country.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, thanks Shane, always entertaining an informative on the country.
I'm showing my age a weave. It about tramping the wall.
Of course, for those of you who haven't spent much
time in the wall shed in the old days used
to chuck the wall into the press and the presser
would have to jump up and tramp it down the
four corners. Get as much wall as you could into
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the bale, but not the heavy than one hundred and
eighty kilos by memory. Of course, it's all automated. Now
it's hydraulic, but Shane back in the day would have
been a good wall Tramper. I can tell you that
we're going to the Golden Shar's next. Pill Holden, Chief
Executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association. I've just
launched Live Well, Share Well. We'll tell you all about that.
(11:32):
But before I forget, we want a week I'd love
to give away one hundred thousand dollars and I sort
of am an association with a Rabobank. It's the tenth
edition of the Rabobank Good Deeds Competition and to celebrate
are they're giving away a whopping one hundred thousand dollars
ten prices of ten thousand dollars a each to upgrade
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ten rural community hubs across New Zealand ten grand each
make a real difference, and one lucky prize. We'll also
receive a day of free labor from the teams at
Rabobank in the country. They bring plenty. We don't offer much,
but the Rabobanks staff love getting out of the office
and doing a day on the tools. So if you
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want to enter the easiest way for your rural community hub,
it might be your rugby club, it could be your
local church, could be anything, your local school. The easiest
way is to text good the word good to five
double O nine and then we'll send you back the
link to enter. Entriests close at the end of the month,
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so make sure you enter before then. Up next, we're
off to Masterton where I'm going to tomorrow day two
(12:57):
of the Golden Shares and World Sharing An All Handling
Championships in Marsterton. Really looking forward to broadcasting the show
live there tomorrow. But before we do that, let's set
the scene with Phil Holden. He's the Chief executive of
the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association and today, Phil, at Masterton,
you have launched the Live Well, Share Well program. Now
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you've got a couple of stars fronting this for you,
none other than a guy who could be the World
Sharing Champion, Roland Smith. He's representing the sharing industry, and
of course the association is with farm Strong. Who better
than farm Strong Ambassador Sam Whitelocke. Good afternoon, Hey, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yep, we've got a couple of icons representing us, no question, all, tell.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Me a wee bit about your background, Chief executive of
the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association. I take it Phil
that you're a gnarly old former sharing contractor. What's your
CV on the hand piece?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I have no hand piece at CV at all. In fact,
the last time I was probably in a wool shed
was from a cousin's twenty first at, writes Blosh Himselfland.
So I'm just the guy. I'm the guy in a
suit that tries to kick the wheels gun.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Haven't we crossed paths before? Weren't you involved with TALMA
the Tractor Machinery Association.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, we have. We've had a chat about that and
I still am involved in that. So again, it's very
similar to the sharing contractors, a very small part time
gag in the primary sector, and I really love it.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You're a guy in a suit a gun for hire.
Tell me about Live Well, Sharewell, Roland Smith, Sam Whitelock.
What's happening well?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I mean the.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Driver, the genesis behind it. We've been working with Farmstrong
for a number of years to try and find a
program or project that we could really hold hands on
together and launch, and that's been the genesis behind Livewell Sharewell.
There's been a lot of focus lately on animal welfare,
particularly given some of the issues that we were dealing
(15:03):
with early in twenty five. And the focus of this
is on the people, because at the end of the day,
behind every handpiece, every rowsy on the floor, the person
in the pen, that there is a human aspect. And
so we've decided and we've went able to focus our
energy on this program, to put our focus in on
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the people to make sure they've got they're looking after
themselves in the right way, they're thinking about the right
sort of things, and they've got some little tools and
skills and techniques to help their own well being, particularly
when they're under a pressured situation.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I must say I've got a bit of a background
on a hand piece as a farmer. Sharer did enough
if it failed to know, I wasn't keen to do
it full time for a job. It was too hard,
it was too hard to work. But I'd have to
say the sharing industries changed a lot over the years
that I've been involved. It's much more professional now. Sharers
and wool handlers for that matter, look after themselves physically
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a lot better than they used to. Ditto with animal
welfare in the shed.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, a hulderd percent.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And so this is just about providing a bit of
a toolbox and a reference point for those our people
to access and just you know, take them to the
next step and support them in a way that they
may not have had access to in the in the past.
So and you're a hundred percent right. I mean the
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professionalism in the set there is first class. There's no
doubt about that. In New Zealand is still highly regarded international.
I guess we'll find out a little bit more about
that over the next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, exactly. And we're launching a podcast. Hamish mackay, my
off side of fill in here on the Country, has
just launched the first in their podcast series about being
farm Strong, with none other than Roland Smith.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Yep, well there's the man, right, So, a former world champion,
eight time Golden Share winner. The irony is that he
was Sam Whitelocke sharing contractor when Roley had his run
in the Hawks Bay. So when we shot the material
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for all the resources that are available on the farm
Strong site, I mean they knew each other. So there's
one there where Roland is teaching Sam how to share
a sheep that's quite quite quite quite quite cool. No,
you know, he is an icon, there's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And he's in the New Zealand team.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And he's every chance, he's every chance to win that
World Sharing title again. I hope he does or he
doesn't tell her Henderson.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, well that's right, yep. Let's hope someone from New
Zealand does.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Phill Holden, chief Executive of the New Zealand Sharing Contractors Association.
Good to catch up. You've launched it today, Live Well,
Share Well at the Golden Shares. I'll see you there tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Look forward to it, Jamie, take care.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I well, thank you. Phil as a man who wears
many hats. I think he's also the chair of Wellington
and the Hurricanes rugby as well, and a Southlander to boot.
Southlanders are running the show. We'll tell you more about
that new podcast with Hamish mackay and Roland Smith. Shortly,
Michelle's going to wander in. We're going to do rural
news and sports news. How good was the Black Cat's
(18:17):
victory overnight into the T twenty World Cup Final. I'm
going to ask Alex Tatus coming up what he made
of Finn Allen's innings one hundred off, thirty three balls
before the end of the hour. Chris Russell, our Australian correspondent,
meet marooned in the Middle East and banning and this
(18:40):
is such a good thing. Banning the word milk the
plant juice. It's not oat milk, it is oat juice.
Chris is pretty hot under the collar about that one,
as am I milk needs to come from a mammoth up.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Next, Rural news and sports news.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nothing screens sharing more than ac DC and Thunderstruck. Go
to any speed share and I guarantee you put the
house on it. You'll hear this song. Hey, just before
we go to Michelle with the latest and rural news.
We talked about it a week bit with Phil Holden.
The sharing industry been under the pump lately, with fewer
people in the sheds, longer days, tougher conditions all around,
(19:32):
and when the pressure ramps up, it can really take
a toll on your mental fitness. That's why we've launched
the first episode of Being Farm Strong, the podcast. It's
a really good listen. It's called, as we said to
Phil Holden, Live Well, Share Well. It dives right into
what light's really like in the sheds right now. In
(19:52):
our first episode, Hamish mackay chats with Sharing Legend, a
bloke who wants to win the World Sharing Championship title
and the Golden Shares title over the weekend. Are Roland
Smith about the reality Cruise are facing now, Michelle, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Did you ever work in the sharing shed?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
No, but I have been in sharing sheds as a youngster.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right well, that's half a box tip. It was interesting
because this is a message obviously from farm Strong and
I'm thinking cruise about the reality cruise are facing because
in my day they were always sharing gangs.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Actually yeah it was gangs. It was gangs and I was.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Here, Yes, but gangs may not be politically correct anymore.
Did you think of that?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So anyhow, I will continue on. So it's all about
the realities Cruise splash, gangs are facing, and more importantly,
how to look after your well being when the work
gets intense. Rolling teamed up with farm Strongly Ambassador, as
we heard Sam Whitelock, to create practical mental fitness tools
for sharers and wall handlers. So if you're in the sheds,
(20:56):
check out Being farm Strong Episode one live well, Share well,
powered by us the country Here on iHeart and find
out how you can power up your mental fitness. Here's
the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
News, the country's world news with cop Cadet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn bow of brand. Visit steel for
dot co dot Nz for your locals doggist.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Thanks Jamie. Federated Farmers has released the results of its
latest farm confidence survey. Was nearly six hundred and fifty
farmers responding in late January and early February. Seventy percent
say their farm is currently profitable, the highest level recorded
since the survey began in two thousand and nine. The
mid season survey also shows farmer confidence and current economic
(21:39):
conditions is at its strongest.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Since seventy percent are profitable. Is that what you're saying?
Look at that, you're reading it right? Record prices would
never been better? What's going wrong with the thirty percent?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
To ask?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Might have to ask? Federated far farm was about that.
That's going to say, how to make a buck? Now
you'll never make a buck in I'm sorry, Carol.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Finished the news.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yes, why not?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Arable farmers remain least profitable group at fort not surprising.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, okay, so some of those guys are battling and
the poor old grape growers.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
And despite the positive conditions right now, many farmers say
they are still uncertain about the future, pointing to rising
costs and the volatile markets is a key con certain
of course, quite volatile out there at the moment with
everything going on.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, I take that back, Federated Farmers didn't think out
my response very well, did I Let's see if I
can do better with sport.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Sports on the country with AFCO one hunder sent ke.
We owned and trusted it.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That's sorry. And you might have heard New Zealand Rugby
board chair Dave David Kirk talking to the Husk this
morning on z B. Kirk says or denies, there's an
underlying problem behind a flurry of high level staff moving
on from New Zealand Rugby that includes the exit of
the chief executive and the All Blacks coach. Not that
(22:54):
the All Blacks coach had a choice in his exit,
Kirk says, is nothing sinister behind the exodus at all.
I'm not totally sure I believe that, David. Anyhow, Manchester
United have retained third and Football's Premier League. Despite a
two to one lost in Newcastle, Arsenal extended their lead
from five to seven points with a one nil win
(23:15):
over Brighton. Manchester City dropped further points via a tool
draw with Nottingham Forest, Chelsea beat Aston Villa for one
and west Ham overcame Fulham one NILA And that's sports news.
Up next, we're going to continue the sporting theme because
this bloke used to be a black cap. He used
to be a professional golfer. He's now a professional caddy.
(23:36):
He was an a grade squash player. But for the
purposes of our chat, Alex Tate is a really keen
hunter and the stats around injuries during the roar that's
when you go out and shoot deer, and we encourage
you to do that because feral dere are a real pest,
some real injury issues. We're going to look at that
with Alex Tate. Next, who's taking a break from caddying
(23:58):
at Tara Eaty. For all you keen hunters out there,
the raw is about to get underway now. Acc Datus
(24:20):
shows severe hunting injuries doubled compared to the average month,
with forty percent affecting knee and shoulders. Now we're going
to discuss this with a very keen hunter, a very
keen golfer, and a very good cricket player, Alex Tait,
former Black Cap of course, professional golfer, was a professional
golfer these days, almost a professional caddy and a keen hunter, Alex.
(24:45):
I just want to start with the story of the day,
and you're probably too busy to have a look at it.
But those black Caps for Allen one hundred off thirty
three balls? Did that happen in your day when you
were playing for ND and the black Caps.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
It's a different game now, Jamie. I'm quite glad I'm
not playing it these days. It really is. I mean,
it is just a twenty twenty version either it's whether
you're talking about Test match or fifty over cricket is
just a completely different, completely different game to what we
played back in the nineties. Two hundred and forty was
a pretty decent score back in nineteen ninety six. So
(25:21):
pretty glad I'm not playing it these days.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, you're real all around that You're a very good golfer,
a very good cricket player, you were a very good
squash play any good on the end of a rifle.
Can you shoot straight?
Speaker 9 (25:34):
I'm not too bad. I guess you'd have to ask
a few of my hunting buddies whether I'm any good
or not. But yeah, I've been a keen hunter for
probably twenty five twenty six years now. It was always
a neat little getaway from me when I had a
week or two off from sports. So still enjoy it,
Still enjoy it. Still get out the one I can now.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
In the commercial break when we were teeing up this interview,
I didn't realize that, I said to you, because you're
a Northland through and through, and I said, as the
has the raw started yet in Northland? Then you told
me there's no deer north of Auckland. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
No, it depends. Woodhall Forest is probably the most northern
deer heerd in New Zealand, so places like Helensville and
cal Copp, places like that. You'll get a few private
farms that have had a few strays come out of
Woodhall Forests. So and if you're talking in that's fellow deer.
If if you're talking about red there, I would guess
(26:32):
Port Whitecadow or the Kaimi is something like that is
probably as far north as red deers ventured in New
Zealand at the stage. So as far as I know,
DOC are not particularly keen on any any deer in
Northland at this stage. But yeah, that's about as far
north as they come.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
The stats aren't good, and as I said at the beginning,
severe injuries double compared to your average month. This is
when the raws on these injuries result on an average
of seventy six days away from work.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
I must have I've touched wood. I've been pretty lucky
as far as that's concerned. Probably since I've been working
here at tarah Eddie, I've I've been going hunting with
three or four three or four friends or sort of
southwest North Island. So but previous to that, I was,
you know, I didn't have the luxury of having any
(27:25):
hunting hunting companions, so I spent a lot of time
in the Chimis. I lived in Meta Meta for five years,
spent a lot of time in the Cimise, which is
pretty fix stuff. So I guess I had to be
a little more more careful than a lot of guys
that have got hunting buddies. But as I say, the
last seven or eight years. I've been lucky enough to
(27:46):
have three or four guys that I go in with
all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Now, So tell me about Alex Tate, the golfer, the cricketer,
the professional caddy. What you're up to. Are you living
the dream at Tara Eatie caddying for the rich and famous?
Speaker 9 (28:00):
It's I do enjoy it. I do enjoy it, especially
like I'm nearing the mid fifties now. So I basically
walk ten to twelve kilometers every day, which keeps me
reasonably fit. And because we're not actually employed by TARI,
we're outside contractors. So if I want to go fishing tomorrow,
(28:21):
I just put across in the notebook and I go fishing.
If I don't work, I ain't get paid. So it's
but basically up to me what days I work, how
much I work, when I go fishing, when I go hunting.
So I'm not sort of strapped into a nine to
five job as it is.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So, yeah, last last weekend you were at Millbrook. You
were caddying for I think Paul Blackwell, one of the
leading business people in this country. He's been a sponsor
of Dan Hellier. You were in that same group must
have been a thrill. How good does that young man
flush the ball?
Speaker 9 (28:56):
He's one of the best off scene And I said
that to Paul the first time we played with him
back in twenty twenty. Just especially his eyes. Someone that
hits the ball so far's he's accurate, distance, distance controls
just incredible. But literally every time he hits a goal
(29:18):
for you can just tell that it's just it's it's
just been hammered. It really is good fun to watch him.
And like I said to you, we had Stevie Williams
in our group again and he made a prediction after
about nine holes. We're sort of talking about his ball
striking and Stevie just looked at me and said, mate,
(29:39):
there's something different about him this year. He just looks
more composed. He looks a little bit more mature now
he's had a bit of time in Europe. He just
said he shoots twenty five this week and wins it.
And he was three shots out. He shot twenty two
under and won it. That was after nine holes. So
here's an idea of how good he is. If someone
(30:02):
like Stevie Williams can make a comment like that.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, and Ash Party was in your group as well.
You are mixing with the rich and famous. Final question
for you, Alex Tate, because I know you've got to
go away and do some caddying at in New Zealand's
most prestigious golf course, Tara eighty. Who's the most famous
person you've cadded for?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
He carried too many famous ones, a lot of war blacks,
a lot of cricketers, but I have had I didn't
cared they for him. But I have been in the
same group as Alice Cooper. He was here a few
years ago and he's a good golfer. Here's a good golfer.
He actually played this is going back I'm guessing four
or five years now. He actually played it on his
(30:44):
seventy second birthday. I think it was February the fourth
from memory, and it was his seventy second birthday and
he was saying the previous year he had played one
hundred and ninety one concerts in a calendar year at
the age of seventy one. So pretty such sort of
a guy. But yeah, now he's a good golfer. An
(31:07):
interesting story. So it's good to even in the group.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Hey, Alex Tait, I could chat all day. Former black cap,
former professional golfer these days professional caddie at Tara Etie,
you're living the dream and if you're out there hunters,
be careful during the roar. Thanks for your time, Alex Pleasure,
thank you, Jamie shut On you Alex, thanks for some
of your time and your lunch break. It is fourteen
away from one up.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Next.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Ossie correspondent Chris Russell, he's there, Ossie correspondent, long standing
Chris Russell, based out of Sydney. He's on the road
at the moment. We find him in a place called
Bundon noon. Now, Chris, is that anywhere near one of
(31:51):
my favorite Australian holiday destinations, Bonnie Doone, My god, The
Castle is a great movie.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Now it's now in there and sadly it's Bonnie durn
or any proposed airport, happily, and it's more English than
the English here. You drive around here. We lived in
England for some years, as you know, and I could
square I was driving around East Anglia. It's a beautiful
part of the world. So we're just at the end
of this particular caravan trip. We'll be back in Sydney today. Now.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Talking about Sydney, our former Prime Minister, Jasinda r Dern
is moving and she could be your next door neighbor, cross.
I see that she wants to settle somewhere on the
northern beaches of Sydney where all you rich people live.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Yeah, that's it. I saw the heave on the paper.
J Sinda chefs to Sydney. Play on words, but yeah,
she apparently has taken a liking to moving over here,
and that's the pretty richy part of Sydney. She's moving
to the northern Beaches, Palm Beach where A Home and
Away is filmed. Mano vailed the while all of those
beautiful areas up there. That's where she's shifting. So she'll
(32:55):
need to bring probably around four to five million dollars
with it, buy a nice little house there, three bedroom house,
and we look forward to her seeing a light of
moving to God's Country.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Meat stranded mid Ocean in the Middle East. This is
an Australian shipment. It's messy over there. It's going to
get MESSI this is just the beginning of stalled trade.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I put it to you, Chris, Yes it is, and
I think we're going to see lots of changes from this.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
There's about fifteen billion dollars, they say, potentially effect on
Australian trade. And we've currently got about a billion dollars
worth of products sitting on the water with nowhere to go.
A lot of the meat that has been sent over
to the Middle East, and they're huge importers of meat
from US. Of course, is all labeled in Persian and
(33:46):
Arabic writing. Can't be re shifted and sent off to
anybody anywhere else because they wouldn't be able to read
any of the labeling. So I'm quite sure what they're
going to do with that when the time runs out
in terms of its use by date be expensive. Obviously,
no one was expecting this to be this quick and
to happen that quickly, and that's the key to a
(34:06):
successful war campaign. But yes, I think we haven't yet
seen the full implications. I noticed Jamie in the paper
the day that diesel in the northern Terra Trusius, of course,
a very remote part of Australia, is selling already for
four dollars a liter.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, the price gougs have started already.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, exactly. And I guess that was inevitable because there
aren't too much competition.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Up there gross value of agricultural production breaks your twenty
thirty target of one hundred billion early. You like us,
you've done it early. But from one hundred billion or
an excess of one hundred billion, you're talking about agricultural
production being only worth seventy seven billion in the next
farming season. That's a big fall from grace.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah. Well, you know they're saying this is definitely a spike,
and you know we're celebrating. Of course, one hundred billion
is is a great target. We've reached it four years early,
which is wonderful, but it's spected to dip due to
the partly the trade conditions and also the seasonal conditions
that we're forecasting for next year. When they set one
(35:13):
hundred billion dollars, they actually thought that was a pretty
bold target. And you know, twenty eighteen nineteen when they
set that targ the value was about sixty billion, so
they thought we've got a long way to go, but
they worked hard. We've certainly seen a perfect storm of
events of climate, of production, of pricing and so on
(35:33):
this year. But certainly as far as ABARS is concerned,
and the ABARS Outlook Conference is on at the moment
down in Canberra, they're seeing crop prices expected to decline
mark many global markets will decline, and they're seeing next year,
that is the twenty five twenty six year, be about
(35:55):
ninety five billion, and potentially the following year it could
be down to seventy seven billion, So that's quite a
big drop.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Here's one that I fully support. Dairy farmers call for
a ban on the word milk for plant juice. It's
like oat milk, it's not oat milk, oat juice. Obviously
following a UK victory in their High Court, so you'd
be right behind this one as well.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Oh, this has been a fat hovey horse of mine
for a long time. In fact, I have been known
to go into the supermarkets for the text to color
crossing out the word milk on all of their oat
milk products and writing the word juice underneath. A great
risk to my future accommodation. But you know, they had
a big victory in the UK. The High Court has
ruled over there that a company that was talking about
(36:39):
post milk products they were calling their oat juices and
almond juices. That's been ruled as illegal in England. And
now they're calling here in Australia, the dairy industry is
calling to do the same thing over here. I see
in Canada it's also been banned. Can only call things
that come out of an animal milk, and they're looking
(37:00):
at the same problem with yogurts and cheeses. So let's
hope that finally a little hard victory that we've been
working on for years over here comes to fruition, and
things will be called juice when they're juice, and milk
when their milk.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jamie, your bang on, Chris Russell, thanks for your time
from OZ. Catch next week.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
No worry again, unless, of course, the.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
World blows up between now and then. Here's hoping fingers
crossed up. Next we wrap the country with some of
your feedback on the text machine. Okay, wrapping the country
with some of your feedback on the text machine. Mister
Luxon needs media lessons from the old master Winnie. Comrade
(37:40):
Jacinda had no qualms and trying to control the media
with bribes and funding, etc. Another text says a foolish
idea you have, Jamie about Peter's he will fail before
the election. Geez, text, I don't know about that. I
think he's going to have a good election result. I
(38:01):
reckon this will be the last election he fights. There
you go mark it down on this day quoting me.
Last election he fights, and he's going to make it
a good one. This is his legacy election and don't
rule out a run for Prime minister. We'll catch you
tomorrow from the Golden Shears and World Champs and Masterden.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Catch are the legist from the land. It's the Country
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