May 13, 2026 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Wayne Langford, Jane Smith, Callum McDonald, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Farmlands helping to keep
animals fed and thriving.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Where lovest.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
When love.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Would the moon HiT's your like a bigger bean suppy.
That's the morn.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Get a New Zealand Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
Show is brought to you by Farmlands and I suezo
an Italian theme today because I can't call them the
Italian Stallion. But Wayne Langford, the President of Federated Farmers,
is back on the tools today. He's in Graymouth after
(00:59):
his Italian sojourn with missus Yolo. Very romantic. I've been
following him on social media. Interestingly, it is AGM season
for the FED, several women stepping up to the presidential
plate and the provinces. We'll talk about that and also
the PINS conference and awards coming up in late June.
(01:23):
Winston Peters talking about Italians. He's got that mafio so
look about him, hasn't he. He's going to kick off
the show. I've got a bit of a bone to
pick with Winston. Jane Smith, North Otago Farmer Award winning
environmentalist her and husband Blair won the Balance Farm Environment Awards.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
They've had a busload of.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
South American farmers on their farm and they're incredulous about
carbon farming and how it came to pass in our country.
They're also exporting their Perindale sheep to Japan. Callum MacDonald
from PGG Rights and it's the ball selling season. I
think it gets under way today. Money going to be
(02:01):
paid for bulls this season. One hundred and sixty one
thousand was the record price set last year for a
anguspaw and Chris Russell's our Assie correspondent, they had their
budget this week. Well I wonder where that Well, I
know they couldn't balance their books. Looks like we can't
balance ours either. As coming up on May the twenty eighth,
(02:23):
O get but we're going to kick it off with Winston.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's up next.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
God make it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just like plaster pass that some more.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
When you dance down the street, you declarded your figure.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
When you war.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
In your dream, but you.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Know on a dream.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Peters joins us on the Country now has loyal henchman
Shane Jones actually texted me earlier in the week and
asked to be on the show. Today, but his boss
has palled Rank Winston just before we talk about Shane
and all the other exciting and wonderful things that are
happening in the world of politics and commerce. What's the
story of me appearing in some New Zealand first propaganda
(03:22):
clips on social media?
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Look, I don't know, but I'm going to make an
inquiry to that because i don't want losing more votes.
I think it's been a bit of a it's been
a bit of a stoppage in our rise in the polls,
and I thought it might be down to that. And
by the way, I didn't call Rank. I mean, I'm
this is organized by media specialists, this interview, so I
don't know how organized this way today, but I'm happy
to be on your show, and too brings in common
(03:47):
sense and logic to your discussion.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, a couple of things Shane did want to talk
about in his text earlier this week was local government
reform and Maori Party reform. Now, the clip the social
media propaganda featuring me in a very minor role and
mainly you was actually about Ta Party Murray and I'm
working on the theory that unless they won a number
(04:10):
of Maori seats. There's no way for Chippy to get
the treasury benches. You've been about a long time. You
can do the numbers. You concur with me, there, wouldn't you?
I know?
Speaker 7 (04:20):
The realty is that the polls are far too close
for comfort. And therefore, you know, this next few months
it is critical that the alternative to the left wing
and do I say the communists and racists in the
Murray Party has got to put in a hard campaign.
I won't take anything for granted. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Where do you sit on local government reform? That's the
other one that Shane wanted to talk about, because I
think it's desperately needed.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Well, of course it's decinately needed. It need serious rationalization.
But be careful here, be careful. Look, it's not one
case of one size fits all. You'll be very very
careful going to make sure that the communities of interests
have shared concerns and shared policy interests meld together. Like
(05:12):
we head up in Auckland where you had the super
city and you wound in Franklin all the way up
to Wilsford Way and it just was so done wrong,
and they did it as though that they belonged to
the super city and it's wrong and long then it's wrong. Now,
so let's be careful here. Don't most of them make
a mistake. But I do believe it's massively overdue.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, but it's ridiculous that we have local body authorities
with populations of seven and twelve thousand. They just haven't
got the critical mass.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Look that the core.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I agree, Yeah, okay, we agree. Let's disagree on something.
And I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole
with you because I'm wasting my time arguing with you.
But at what point do you roll over and say, yes,
I was wrong about the age of national of eligibility
for National super We're going to get to the stage
under your scenario where we could have two workers for
(06:02):
every one person getting national superannuation. Totally unsustainable. Got to
raise the age of eligibility. Do we need to means test?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
You know, it's amazing to hear this sort of drivel
from you. Now here's the point. The superinnuation is costing
five point two percent of GDP. That's half what some
countries have got. And then on top of that, we've
been saving four decades for the Column Fund to smooth
out the bos and costs. That money in its burns
is all there, and you cannot make out the case
(06:33):
that we can't afford it. No, what I'm afraid I'm
going to tell you, Jamee is this. You've got certain
people in government who can't run the economy, and they're
both in labor and national and we're sending them. If
you can't run the economy, propert, if you can't get
a growth made wave on above three percent, then get
out of the way and let somebody can on the economy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Property two workers for everyone, super annuitant is not sustainable.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
No, no, no, no, excuse me. See there's the first
fiction that's not true. They ever got AI coming. The
whole world's changing gramatically. The real point is how much
is it against your DDP costs? And even it's only
five point two percent, it's dramatically less than other countries.
You've got a problem. We have not. And the very
idea of people are going to go on living longer.
That's all changing now with recent forecasts because all this
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modern food and more sorts of bad part has meant
that this population that's coming is not like you live
as long as the population that you and I longed
to right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Hey, just a couple to finish on Judith Collins twenty
four years of service. I've always liked Judith. I thought
she might have been a better leader of the National
Party or a more popular one than she ended up being.
You clashed swords with her over the years, but got
along with her.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I don't recall clashing swords with it very much. In
fact that she will tell you that mkanto a defense
portfol you know what, it was the biggest support or
getting over the fund and the budget that she desperately needed.
And I understand moved here to tell you that. But
the reality is she got caught in the worst possible
circumstances in the middle of the co of a election.
She didn't have a hope in hades. And that's the
(08:02):
way it is sometimes. You know, things were just so
bad for the for the opposition back then that the
Layer Party was, you know, regarded as the podium of truth.
They left wing media was pushing them, and the Layer
Party won the whole election, won the election. But boy,
what a mistake that one. Within three years they've gone on.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Us, Yes, sir, who put them in there just to finish.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
On where you put them in there. You put them
in there, people like John Key and you who ruled
me out for years when I'm out there campaigning.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Hey, come on, I've known you. I've known you for
a long time. What radio show has always talked to
you through thick and thin?
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, no, that's that's true. But you know that John
Key ruled me. I do you know all that, don't you?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Bell English didn't rule you out.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Oh, for goodness sake, he was part of the guy.
He was a deputy Prime minister at the time they
were ruling me out. Haven't you guys got a memory?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I sometimes wonder if you have. But anyhow, I've just
a couple to finish on.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Damn good memory. That's why I'm win in this argument.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Just a couple to finish on. Where's Street versus Sirkia
Starmer Trump versus President She? There are a couple of
big things happening in the world of politics at the
moment which will have an effect on.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Us well, most definitely. That's the point I know of
This is more acutely of concerning is you're nothing that
has happened like this before in our whole lifetime. To
the Second World War. So we're living in a very
difficult age. But I have to tell you in this
difficult age, Jami, experience matters in politics.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes it does, even if experience comes with memory loss
on occasion.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Winston, No, no, no, sorry, sorry mate. The reason why
I'm standing up is I've got a damn good memory.
Most of you guys have got a convenient memory, RIGHTO.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'll forget all about twenty seventeen. It wasn't your fault,
Winston Peters, thanks for your time on the Country.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yes, well, thank you, Winston.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
There's a case of selective memory if I ever saw one.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
It's an Italian theme today because the president of Federated
Farmers is just back from Italy. We're going to talk
to Wayne Langford next on the Country. Jane Smith in
North Otargo rate rise in the Waitaki district worst case scenario.
That's a bit of a shocker. Callum McDonald on the
ball sales coming up. And Chris Russell, our assie correspondent.
(10:15):
They had their budget this week just like us. They're
having trouble balancing the box. So what did the Aussies
do about it? We'll ask Chris before the end of
the hour.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Down the street driving glooded your figure, love well, lovest.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Dairy week on the country thanks to Meridian and Farmland's
making moving day easier for farmers.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Wold the moon.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's your like a bigger bed supply.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's the water.
Speaker 9 (11:01):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
The sounds of Italy music to the ears of our
next guest, President of Federated Farmers, Wayne Langford, has just
come back from Italy. A bit of a family holiday.
You've got a boy over there, young healthy on student exchange.
What a great trip you and missus Yolo.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Had, Yeah, Jamie had good to be here. It was
was a fantastic trip. Slightly warmer than what it is
back home at the moment, but but yeah, what a
beautiful country. What's some There's a heck of a lot
of history over there, isn't there. So it was good
to get around and have a look.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Did you queue up to go to what's the fountain?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Called? Help me out here?
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Oh they are Trivi fountains. We've got to stop front.
We actually took the lime scooters one morning to go
to the Colosseum, which we thought was kind of the
irony of two thousand years later rolling up to the
Colosseum on a couple of lives because we thought it
was quite funny as well. So Rome is a beautiful city. Yeah,
we had a lot of fun there for a couple
of days, and and and the rest of Italy as well.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
From the beauty of Rome to the med just of Graymouth.
And Greymouth is quite an attractive little town, more attractive
than it used to be.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I reckon.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I was there for Old Andy Thompson's egg Fest a
couple of years ago, and I thought, what a nice
little waterfront area that they've got in that town.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah, it's a good little flight. We stopped on Reefton,
which is again a town on the rise, and stopped
there the bakery to get a pie on the way.
And now we're just rolling in the Greymouth as we
speak to here to attend the AGM. The first time
I'm going to get to see Kenny Milner as a
West Coast Tasman candidate. So well, let's see what she's
got to say today as well.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Hey, she took your job because you were all lined
up to stand for West Coast Tasman for someone or other.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
Well, speaking of standing, I hear you were just speaking
to Winston. Is he your new bosses? That is what's
going on. You were talking about superannuation. I see you
just you just wanted to stand when you're dealing first
to get out of your super romish.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Oh shots fired. No, Winston was illegally using my image
for his propaganda videos. I'm going to have to have
a word with them. Well I did have a word
with them. He said he's going to get rid of them.
But that's that is fair enough. Katie Milne and all
seriousness will be and I think she'll get elected once
she she's certainly well on the West coast. What about
up in your neck of the woods, Nelson, Golden Bay.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Yeah, it should be. It should be a good race
news in trust your party there without putting someone up
as well on the case here, I think Gamy Klein,
so former mayor on the on the coast. So that'll
that'll track a few votes or spread the votes out
on the right hand side of the ledger. So but
you know, Katie's Katie's done a heck of a job.
And as I've mentioned before on the show, I think
(13:37):
you know of a job not only you know in
rural leadership, but also in conservation and that sort of
thing as well. So uh, you know that should be
seen well amongst the constituents of this AREACS, because we've
got a lot of that in this space for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Talking about women politicians, a lot of women are stepping
up to the presidential plate for Federated Farmers this year
because you're in the AGM season.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
Yeah, that's right, there is there is a you's stepping up,
which is great to see Kerry Harmer there and mid
Canterbury and Rosemary Costa out there in the Auckland province
as well, So all around the country are joining joining in.
It'll be great to have them involved with our National Council,
the National Councilors who make all of our policy decisions,
and so good to have some new thinking around the table.
(14:19):
That'll be be fantastic. Good to see them stepping.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Up and talking about New Zealand first. Of course, I'm
not a member of New Zealand first. Don't think I
ever will be like Winston. I don't know if i'd
ever vote for him. But anyhow, Jason Herrick, your Southland president,
has stood down to stand for New Zealand first, and
that's going to be an interesting elector at that one,
because you've got Jason Herrick for New Zealand. First, you've
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got the sitting MP, Joseph Mooney, and then you've got
Peter McDonald, who's a Dipton farmer bill English country. He's
standing for Labor.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yes, it's going to make some things interesting, isn't it. Yeah.
I think you on first have had a bit of
a look through the feeds ranks to see who they
can grab. And I understand they grabbed a fuse from
across the country so they know where we're to go
looking for some quality talent. And yeah, when they were
typing Confederate and farmers, they must have typed in the
country at the same time, and I found someone there
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the way.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I normally cracked the jokes on the show at Yolo,
So hey, you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Talk to me.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I'm just getting some revenge bag for the Labor Party
candidacy jokes as well a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
But I wasn't joking. I was deadly serious. That was
the oil I got at the National Lamb Day barbecue. Obviously,
when Katie put her hand up for National you thought, nah,
I don't want to go against her.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
I shouldn't believe everything here over a barbecue. That's what
this adn't.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Exactly Pin's Summit, and obviously the Primary Industry Awards as
well coming up in what twenty third and twenty fourth
of June. It's great and you've secured doctor Vaughan Holder
as a speaker this year. This is the guy behind
Well Without Cows the movie Well does it a movie
or docco? It's a doco?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Well, a bit of the one on Netflix thinks they're
all across in between, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So?
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Yeah? Good, try a good, great lineup a speakers. There's
some challenging ones last year that keep the crowd entertained
and made the tickets well worth their money. So anyone
that is wanting a bit of a winter break away
and a very good conference to go to up and
have an Auckland twenty third and twenty fourth. It is
a good, solid conference will pull together now. So I'd
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encourage you to jump on to the Primary Industry Summit
website and check out the agenda and certainly get tickets
and get involved if if you can.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I must say you've got a great array of speakers,
and it is election year, so naturally there's plenty of politicians.
There's all the that's Shane. I don't know if, for
instance there, Shane's definitely there, Chris Hipkins is there. I'm
sure Joe Luxon Luxton will be there, and Damien will
probably turn up. But there's no sign that I can
see of a speaker from the Greens or to party. Mari,
(17:01):
uh no, shall we finish that conversation as that?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
No, I don't. I don't have an answer for that,
so so I'll just I'll just say no. Then that's
what they teach your media training is you don't have
an answer, just say no.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, well you can just be like once that I'm
just happy to be the MP for Towanna.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
That's right, that's right, but it should be good. And
in between that, of course, we've got the Pins Awards
that night, which is which is a standout event now
and really starting to build. Great to see we've got
the the no Ural Royal Woman of the Year Award,
which would be great. I see that they're bringing in
the media the media awards as well. There Agricultural Communicator
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of the Year award and I think you've got your
name and for that one as well well.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I didn't put my own name and someone else did.
Andy Thompson was the only one who put his own
name on, but he missed the cut.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
Yeah, well, you'll have to brush off your brush off
your sick because you may get lucky and just just
get an award there.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
Well.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I think it's really good because those Agricultural Communicator of
the Year awards have been going for an age and
they used to be a formal dinner. It was really
good and it's kind of dissipated over the years and
it's become a sausage roll affair and just named the
Communicator of the Year. So I'm really glad they're doing
it at a really high profile event like that. And ditto,
(18:18):
there's a really strong field out there Wayne, for the
journalism award. I looked at all the finalists, including our
own Riley Kennedy from Business Desk, and they're all great
egg journals.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, you're right. The team that were organized in the
order to have kind of fantastic job, and we're certainly
trying to make them kind of the premium agricultural awards
that they are, you know, the non specific to certain
sectors that kind of broadbrush what I also love about
them and what's been the history of them as well
as includes some of our scientists and others involved in
those in those spaces that we don't often get to
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hear about it, don't often get to see but have
you know a massive impact on the pastoral sector, on
what we do with our animals and everything, and so
to highlight them every now and then, every now and
then as well as a fantastic and.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
We honored doctor Robin Dines last year, didn't we.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see who gets the big
award this year, you know, the outstanding contribution to their
crop sector and it's always the highlight for the end
of the night. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see who
that is.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, you get your victory speech ready then yo, eas
Oh you've got a political career to come yet. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Now I'll go and enjoy Graymouth as the wife.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well you've enjoyed Rome with a lovely tyler anyhow that
Swain Langford, president of Federated Farmers, back on the tools
and Graymouth after a stint and.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Rome.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Michelle, Good afternoon. I'm in Lawrence this weekend, really looking
forward to it for the century farm and Station Awards
recognizing farms and stations that have been in family ownership
for one hundred years or more. I think of the
thirty six farms being recognized, twelve of them are Sesqui Centennial,
which means one hundred and fifty years of ownership, which
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is absolutely fantastic. Now in your home patch of Bealcluther,
the Kluther rugby club and gee, there's some great players
come out of that rugby club as celebrating its one
hundred and fiftieth and they've got the new New Zealand
or the vice president, the new vice President of New
Zealand Rugby, David Crazy Latter. He's just an absolute legend
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in Otago rugby guest speaker Mark Alice.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
So what could be interesting? What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But your days in Bealcluther was was did you have
any connections with the Kluther rugby club?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
I played for Kitungata, so no, not really I did see.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Kit Tungata is crescent, isn't it?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
It is Cresent. My dad was the manager of the
Colts for a number of years.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So I understand for the one hundred and fiftieth it's
the coal miners versus which is City Boys.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Was explained to you how big that game is. The
whole two towns will turn up to that game.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And Richie Hurring a bit of a legend in that
area as well. The wall guy in that neck of
the woods was telling me about how some of the
clubs in South Otago are struggling, and they're struggling simply
because of carbon farming. Especially in South Otago. It's taken
so many farms off the map and there's just not
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enough young guys out there playing rugby for all these
teams to have rugby clubs.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's rather sad.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
We're going to talk carbon farming after the break with
Jane Smith. She's a North Otago farmer, former winner of
the Balanced Farm Environment Awards. You never die wondering what
she's thinking. Jane Smith, I'm going to talk about your
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rates rise in the Waitaki district up to forty five percent, unbelievable,
and also exporting sheep your parandales to Japan. But if
I can, I'd like to start with the busload of
South American farmers that called into your place recently. They
couldn't believe at carbon farming disaster in this country.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Good afternon Jamie, Yes, that's right. So they were from
mainly from Brazil, but also from Uruguay, and they were
farmers and academics and university students in terms of during
genetics et cetera. And they had been traveling to the
ten days or so before they got here to look
at our genetics etca. And they were just go smacked
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in regards to how we have let the Paris Agreement
overtake so many things that we do. And they're obviously
in the Paris Agreement, but of course they're still getting
aill in gas and do business as usual basically for them.
But they could not believe carbon farming. And one of
the main questions that they asked was how have sheep
farmers survived to date with that type of pressure and
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the low poor returns, And you know, carried on doing
what we do what we do, but the loss of
land just those couldn't believe it. And you know, we'll
all win this feeling the same way a million stock
in it's a year, we're losing three hundred thousand heats.
And again, Jamie, this is this went on for far
too long and it hasn't actually been properly fixed and
you know again, I laugh. Actually when people say Paris
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is our friend, and I've heard some of your commentators
say that, but in the same sentence say, you know,
they castigate the fact that carbon farming has happened. I mean,
you look at our energy costs, fuel costs, carbon farming,
land lost. It all feeds back to the Paris called Jamie,
and it's just a joke and it needs to stop.
And even if we have to take a short term
trade hit, it's better than losing that land out of
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productivity for ever Jamie.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yes, And we've already spoken about carbon farming and its
effects on even you know, local communities, local rugby clubs,
lack of young blogs and women playing rugby because the
farms are growing trees rather than sheep and beef. And
there's a rich irony that sheep farmings come right, wolves better,
A lamb is very very good at the moment, that
land should be growing food, not trees. Hey, talk to
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me about exporting sheep to Japan.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Yeah, so that's that's just something that we've done in
the last couple of weeks. And there's a few sheep
going from other parts of New Zealand as well, and
so it's interesting. Over in Japan, I think they've only
got about twenty to twenty five thousand sheep genetic pool
isn't isn't great, So they're wanting to export a number
of different breeds, of which our par and eales are
one of them. They actually have quite a worm burden
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issue over there in terms of drench resistance, which is interesting,
and it'd be interesting to see how the sheep go.
I think they're indoors for about three months of the year,
so hopefully the Parandeals go all right at that, but
it's going to be fascinating Jamie, and to see how
they go. And New Zealand was their pick of places
to come to for genetics because again we've had to
be innovative with genetics and a fish with our sheep
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just to survive the last I guess forty or fifty years.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Jamie.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, I'm glad you're making a few bucks out of
sheep farm and Jane, you will need to to pay
your rates in the Waitaki district.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, it's interesting, Jamie. I can write a book on us.
We now find ourselves in a kaleidoscope of bureaucratic Billimia
I would call it because they've thrown up a three
unpalatable waptions of the nineteen percent or twenty seven percent
or a forty five percent rise, with only the latter
having the outcome of balancing the books. So actually, well
(25:33):
done to the count's current councilors for settling up and
fronting up and understanding that. You know, they've been honest
with it. They've gone to the cupboard, and the cupboard
is beer, and so I don't know, you know, we
obviously need a forward it or an autopsy on what
has gone on, but looking forward, we actually need to
need to shape up. I mean, we've been bothering around
(25:54):
the last three years talking about a district plan and
hitting private property rates like you know, in terms of rights,
in terms of what they're doing down and gore, and
we've missed the big picture. We have Victorian water system
under our feet in the town like most towns, and
the red tape has been overwhelming that has been thrown
at these councils from the Crown and you know, like
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it's interesting, you know, just to put the cat monks
of pigeons called Shane Jones Captain underpants and is and
his band is not so Mary men Have has also
said at the same time, of course we've got the
RMA changes, but also that we need to either amalgamate
or look at ways of changing.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Things in terms of working together.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
And I would suggest an amalgamation is the only way
to go, and I'm not against that. I really like
the idea of unitary authorities, even though Biggot isn't necessarily better.
But what Shane Jones and Winston has conveniently forgotten is
when they anointed to Cinderella and the Greens back in
twenty seventeen. In twenty eighteen, they put four well beings
into the regulation, so we actually put more focus on social,
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environment and culture, and they seem to have forgotten the
fourth pillar, which is economic Jamie. And of course at
the same time we had David Parker punishing farmers with
a not for purpose environmental regime, so that all of
those costs and distractions and that's what they were, was
thrown on councils and they actually forgot the basic job.
So the three hours reticulation, roading rubbish and all of
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those things have fallen by the wayside, and we find
ourselves in an untenuable position. Jamie.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well, I know you didn't hear the Winston Peters interview,
but he conveniently forgets about twenty seventeen and anointing. Hey Jane,
thanks for your time today. Good luck for your angus
bullsar which is coming up. I think next month we'll
catch you ahead of you selling some black gold. Thanks
for your time today, Thanks Jamie, Good on you, Jane,
and we're going to talk angus bulls with Callum McDonald
(27:51):
Chris Russell to come, but up next it's rural news
and sports news. Well, welcome back to the country. Nineteen
away from one. Here's Rural News with Michelle.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
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to talk innovation, another to back it up drive it.
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for your local star guest.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Sinley Milk Chief executive Richard Wyfe has resigned after just
over twelve months in the job. Bright Dairy appointed director
Leon Fung, who will take over his acting CEOs of
May the fourteenth. The announcement was made to the n
z X this morning. Richard will remain with the company
until June thirtieth to support and orderly transition handover. No
reason has been given for his departure and that's rural news.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, it's tough gig running sin Lay. He's done a
very good job at the dairy companies he's been with
before that.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Richard Wyth go well his sport.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sport on the country with Alfco business well done.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
New Zealand work at keeper Tom Blundell isn't worried about
his four heading into the upcoming tour of Ireland and England.
The thirty five year old's gone past fifty just twice
in his last thirty two testings, but a still upbeat
saying isn't concerned about anyone nipping at his heels. He's
totally focused on playing to his strengths and Warriors playmaker
Luke metcalf for Pairs poised to sort his future at
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another n our NRL club by the end of the week.
He's reportedly met with the Dragons and Bulldogs in the
last few days. That sport up next balls with Callum McDonald.
Monthly here on the Country we catch up with the
team from PGG Rights and Livestock. Have a look at
what's happening on farm. I'll tell you what's happening on
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farm at the moment. The autumn bullsals have kicked off.
In fact, I think they kick off today. Obviously for
beef there's a hell of a lot of interest at
the moment. Let's chat to the National Genetics manager, Callum McDonald,
a good Southlander, new blood on the country today. Callum,
you've just landed the top job. Are we going to
break last year's record price of one hundred and sixty
(30:03):
one thousand dollars for an angus ball?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Wow? You think, Tommy, Yeah, I think there's some million
dollar question to be fear. But yeah, with the beef
industry where it is at the moment, you know, thing's possible.
And I think, you know, so as the right ball
comes along and the right it's all the right boxes,
I think, yeah, it would be nice to see that.
But yeah, well, as you said, we start with bull
(30:27):
sales this week and they sort of run to the
next six weeks. So yeah, hopefully we do. And yeah,
well we certainly you know, out there looking and expecting balls,
making sure that if that ball is out there, we'll
find them.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
So yeah, now it was I think it was tangy.
How wasn't it up in Gisbane. That's where the record
ball came from last year. As we saide hundred and
sixty one thousand dollars, what have you seen so far
to make you think you might break that record?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We've definitely seen, you know, with three conditions where it
has been in the castile prices and you know, they
said we're in uncharted here you here with you schedules
and and you know with the beef prices at the moment,
so you know, everything is lining up. But then with genetics,
it's you've got to they've got to be the right
ones and they've got to be fit for purpose, and
you know there's a lot goes into it, and yeah,
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a lot of wherek It's been put on behind the
scenes in the last you know, six seven weeks to
make sure that that happens and build into these sales.
And you know, as you said, we're starting this week
and the next next six weeks is going to be
a pretty hectic time. But it's pretty exciting too. And
I think it's good to see the sheep and beef
farmers having their day in the sun. And you know,
I think it's it's all positive, which is which is
(31:35):
really nice to see.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
To any of the other beef breeds get near the
angus price wise.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, they do, like we he's you know, and it's
here's saying genetics. We're always looking for that top ball,
and you know, regardless of what breed it is, and
you know, those top top balls of any breed are
always sought after, you know, to take that individual breed forward.
So all those breeders are always looking for that next
ball and regardless of where the marketers that, they're always
(32:02):
looking for the top balls. But it certainly helps them.
There's a bit more money being thrown around the industry.
But yeah, stud balls and those ary topping balls of course,
is what we're talking about. Is you know, they don't
come around that often, but when they do, it's pretty
cool and they add a bit of vie to the
beef industry and you know, for years to come.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So I think a couple of our regular correspondents have
got angus ball studs Jane Smith, Stu Duncan. So they'll
be on the calendar. Get a shameless plug in for
their sales.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yes, yeah, no, there, yes, to do sales on Friday
and the Fossil Creek ones further later on during the
during the season, so you know they're both both big
out of the farm at the moment, you're hoping that
their sales go well.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Callum McDonald, a newly minted national genetics manager for PGG
Rights and first time to the Batter's box on the country.
You did well, well done. Great to catch up with
another South London.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, always good thanks Jamie ranging.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bitsify.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's more.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Our Australian correspondent, Chris Russell, as based out of Sydney. Chris,
we've got our budget coming up on the twenty eighth
of May. Goodness knows how we're going to balance the books.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
We can't.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
You certainly couldn't this week in Australia.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
Well, I mean Jim Chalmers, the Treasurer, he's really broken
a holt. That's all the publicity is about, all these
broken promises. You know. I think that the quote that
came from Andrew of Albanesi last year when he was
going to the electorate was for the fiftieth time there
will be no changes to capital gain tax or negative
(33:38):
gearing or other investments. And what has he done changed
all of those things? So you don't have capital gain
sex in New Zelle and I think, do you do
you Jomi, No.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But the Labor Party has it on the table as
an election policy, so who knows.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
We might have it had it on they had it
here for a long time. But it's been heavily discounted
so that in fact to cut it back well back.
But as for next year, there's going to be no
discounts at all. So you're going to pay thirty percent
of the capital gains tax on your whatever you sell
in terms of property. And there's also going to be
big changes to being able to negatively gear an investment property.
(34:18):
So in other words, if you have a property and
you spend money on it, you can write off the
cost of that against income your earning elsewhere. Well that's
all going to end as well. Now, this is all
supposed to be in line with their request for generational
equity as they're calling it, where older Australians are getting
more benefit from tax and those things and what the
(34:38):
younger Australians are. But I fear that what's going to
happen is it's just going to take out where the
money is, all the baby boomers where the money is.
They start putting their money into property and seeing that
is a good investment. There's not going to as much
property around for rental law for use in a market
that's already so short of housing. So he's getting a
lot of flak about all that. I think that's going
(35:00):
to carry on the opposition of indicator that they're going
to completely dump it if they get into power, But
that's not going to happen anytime soon. So you know,
we're going to see quite some seismic changes. There has
been some little benefits from primary production. They're going to
get a fifteen fourteen point eight billion dollar fuel resilience package,
(35:23):
which includes seven and a half billion for near term
fuel and fertilizer purchases and three point two billion to
create a fuel security reserves. You know, that's that's probably
all good stuff. And the other thing is we'll be
able to write off continue to write off twenty thousand
dollars worth of purchases in the year in which they're purchased.
(35:44):
This is capital purchases, rather than depreciating them over a
period of time. Again, that's been going on year by year.
Now that's become permanent. But really I just think that
this is the flat from this broken promises argument is
what's ruling the air at the moment.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Jomie, Yeah, and One Nation had a win on that
Farah by election. I want to move on from politics
to talk about farming. Record cattle slaughter rates and record
record prices for Australian and New Zealand beef for that matter,
heading to the US.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Yes, well, we've seen our slaughter in twenty twenty five
go up twelve percent in slaughter rates to nine point
two eight million head. Now we've only got twenty two
million head in Australia or thereabouts, so you know that's
a massive slaughter rate. It's just behind the twenty fifteen
record of nine point five million. Now the twenty twenty
(36:41):
six outlook Rabobank has predicted that center climb another two
percent to nine point four seven million, and an additional
two percent in twenty twenty seven. So we're seeing a
lot of cattle being slaughtered. Of course, this all comes
about from the big demand from the US, particularly for
ham burger type meat, but that's changing as well because
(37:03):
people are requiring more and more high quality you meet
America as the Ezambic effect bites, so the whole market's
changing for beef, and the Chinese have just issued more
licenses for even though their quotas are still in place,
They've issued more licenses, so they're expecting that to be
a prelude to an increase in our quota as well.
(37:24):
And of course in America they've still got tremendously low
beef for numbers and beef for cattle price in the
United States are at record highs at the moment, with
imports increasing. So during the beef market, one hundred and
forty six thousand tons of beef cent is sent to
the United States this year, which is up thirteen months
(37:46):
on the first four months of last year.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Jamie, good money if you can get at Chris russell
amount of time. Thanks for yours today on the country.
We'll catch you next week. No worries, thanks, Chris says,
wrapping the country with some of your feedback, Jamie. The
mere thought of and Shane being in charge of the
purse strings causes nightmares. Keep poking borax that Winnie the
Pooh is full of it and can't be blamed. Another
(38:09):
text is saying stop cuddling up to Winston. Didn't realize
I did. And here's an interesting one. On the back
of council disasters across the country, every district and regional
council needs to be audited and installed immediately with commissioners.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
We'll catch you with doctor John Roach from MPI on
tomorrow's show.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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That's the morn.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Get a New Zealand Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
Show is brought to you by Farmlands and I suezo
an Italian theme today because I can't call them the
Italian Stallion. But Wayne Langford, the President of Federated Farmers,
is back on the tools today. He's in Graymouth after
(00:59):
his Italian sojourn with missus Yolo. Very romantic. I've been
following him on social media. Interestingly, it is AGM season
for the FED, several women stepping up to the presidential
plate and the provinces. We'll talk about that and also
the PINS conference and awards coming up in late June.
(01:23):
Winston Peters talking about Italians. He's got that mafio so
look about him, hasn't he. He's going to kick off
the show. I've got a bit of a bone to
pick with Winston. Jane Smith, North Otago Farmer Award winning
environmentalist her and husband Blair won the Balance Farm Environment Awards.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
They've had a busload of.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
South American farmers on their farm and they're incredulous about
carbon farming and how it came to pass in our country.
They're also exporting their Perindale sheep to Japan. Callum MacDonald
from PGG Rights and it's the ball selling season. I
think it gets under way today. Money going to be
(02:01):
paid for bulls this season. One hundred and sixty one
thousand was the record price set last year for a
anguspaw and Chris Russell's our Assie correspondent, they had their
budget this week. Well I wonder where that Well, I
know they couldn't balance their books. Looks like we can't
balance ours either. As coming up on May the twenty eighth,
(02:23):
O get but we're going to kick it off with Winston.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's up next.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
God make it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just like plaster pass that some more.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
When you dance down the street, you declarded your figure.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
When you war.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
In your dream, but you.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Know on a dream.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Peters joins us on the Country now has loyal henchman
Shane Jones actually texted me earlier in the week and
asked to be on the show. Today, but his boss
has palled Rank Winston just before we talk about Shane
and all the other exciting and wonderful things that are
happening in the world of politics and commerce. What's the
story of me appearing in some New Zealand first propaganda
(03:22):
clips on social media?
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Look, I don't know, but I'm going to make an
inquiry to that because i don't want losing more votes.
I think it's been a bit of a it's been
a bit of a stoppage in our rise in the polls,
and I thought it might be down to that. And
by the way, I didn't call Rank. I mean, I'm
this is organized by media specialists, this interview, so I
don't know how organized this way today, but I'm happy
to be on your show, and too brings in common
(03:47):
sense and logic to your discussion.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, a couple of things Shane did want to talk
about in his text earlier this week was local government
reform and Maori Party reform. Now, the clip the social
media propaganda featuring me in a very minor role and
mainly you was actually about Ta Party Murray and I'm
working on the theory that unless they won a number
(04:10):
of Maori seats. There's no way for Chippy to get
the treasury benches. You've been about a long time. You
can do the numbers. You concur with me, there, wouldn't you?
I know?
Speaker 7 (04:20):
The realty is that the polls are far too close
for comfort. And therefore, you know, this next few months
it is critical that the alternative to the left wing
and do I say the communists and racists in the
Murray Party has got to put in a hard campaign.
I won't take anything for granted. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Where do you sit on local government reform? That's the
other one that Shane wanted to talk about, because I
think it's desperately needed.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Well, of course it's decinately needed. It need serious rationalization.
But be careful here, be careful. Look, it's not one
case of one size fits all. You'll be very very
careful going to make sure that the communities of interests
have shared concerns and shared policy interests meld together. Like
(05:12):
we head up in Auckland where you had the super
city and you wound in Franklin all the way up
to Wilsford Way and it just was so done wrong,
and they did it as though that they belonged to
the super city and it's wrong and long then it's wrong. Now,
so let's be careful here. Don't most of them make
a mistake. But I do believe it's massively overdue.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, but it's ridiculous that we have local body authorities
with populations of seven and twelve thousand. They just haven't
got the critical mass.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Look that the core.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I agree, Yeah, okay, we agree. Let's disagree on something.
And I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole
with you because I'm wasting my time arguing with you.
But at what point do you roll over and say, yes,
I was wrong about the age of national of eligibility
for National super We're going to get to the stage
under your scenario where we could have two workers for
(06:02):
every one person getting national superannuation. Totally unsustainable. Got to
raise the age of eligibility. Do we need to means test?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
You know, it's amazing to hear this sort of drivel
from you. Now here's the point. The superinnuation is costing
five point two percent of GDP. That's half what some
countries have got. And then on top of that, we've
been saving four decades for the Column Fund to smooth
out the bos and costs. That money in its burns
is all there, and you cannot make out the case
(06:33):
that we can't afford it. No, what I'm afraid I'm
going to tell you, Jamee is this. You've got certain
people in government who can't run the economy, and they're
both in labor and national and we're sending them. If
you can't run the economy, propert, if you can't get
a growth made wave on above three percent, then get
out of the way and let somebody can on the economy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Property two workers for everyone, super annuitant is not sustainable.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
No, no, no, no, excuse me. See there's the first
fiction that's not true. They ever got AI coming. The
whole world's changing gramatically. The real point is how much
is it against your DDP costs? And even it's only
five point two percent, it's dramatically less than other countries.
You've got a problem. We have not. And the very
idea of people are going to go on living longer.
That's all changing now with recent forecasts because all this
(07:16):
modern food and more sorts of bad part has meant
that this population that's coming is not like you live
as long as the population that you and I longed
to right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Hey, just a couple to finish on Judith Collins twenty
four years of service. I've always liked Judith. I thought
she might have been a better leader of the National
Party or a more popular one than she ended up being.
You clashed swords with her over the years, but got
along with her.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I don't recall clashing swords with it very much. In
fact that she will tell you that mkanto a defense
portfol you know what, it was the biggest support or
getting over the fund and the budget that she desperately needed.
And I understand moved here to tell you that. But
the reality is she got caught in the worst possible
circumstances in the middle of the co of a election.
She didn't have a hope in hades. And that's the
(08:02):
way it is sometimes. You know, things were just so
bad for the for the opposition back then that the
Layer Party was, you know, regarded as the podium of truth.
They left wing media was pushing them, and the Layer
Party won the whole election, won the election. But boy,
what a mistake that one. Within three years they've gone on.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Us, Yes, sir, who put them in there just to finish.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
On where you put them in there. You put them
in there, people like John Key and you who ruled
me out for years when I'm out there campaigning.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Hey, come on, I've known you. I've known you for
a long time. What radio show has always talked to
you through thick and thin?
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, no, that's that's true. But you know that John
Key ruled me. I do you know all that, don't you?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Bell English didn't rule you out.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Oh, for goodness sake, he was part of the guy.
He was a deputy Prime minister at the time they
were ruling me out. Haven't you guys got a memory?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I sometimes wonder if you have. But anyhow, I've just
a couple to finish on.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Damn good memory. That's why I'm win in this argument.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Just a couple to finish on. Where's Street versus Sirkia
Starmer Trump versus President She? There are a couple of
big things happening in the world of politics at the
moment which will have an effect on.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Us well, most definitely. That's the point I know of
This is more acutely of concerning is you're nothing that
has happened like this before in our whole lifetime. To
the Second World War. So we're living in a very
difficult age. But I have to tell you in this
difficult age, Jami, experience matters in politics.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes it does, even if experience comes with memory loss
on occasion.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Winston, No, no, no, sorry, sorry mate. The reason why
I'm standing up is I've got a damn good memory.
Most of you guys have got a convenient memory, RIGHTO.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'll forget all about twenty seventeen. It wasn't your fault,
Winston Peters, thanks for your time on the Country.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yes, well, thank you, Winston.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
There's a case of selective memory if I ever saw one.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
It's an Italian theme today because the president of Federated
Farmers is just back from Italy. We're going to talk
to Wayne Langford next on the Country. Jane Smith in
North Otargo rate rise in the Waitaki district worst case scenario.
That's a bit of a shocker. Callum McDonald on the
ball sales coming up. And Chris Russell, our assie correspondent.
(10:15):
They had their budget this week just like us. They're
having trouble balancing the box. So what did the Aussies
do about it? We'll ask Chris before the end of
the hour.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Down the street driving glooded your figure, love well, lovest.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Dairy week on the country thanks to Meridian and Farmland's
making moving day easier for farmers.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Wold the moon.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's your like a bigger bed supply.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's the water.
Speaker 9 (11:01):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
The sounds of Italy music to the ears of our
next guest, President of Federated Farmers, Wayne Langford, has just
come back from Italy. A bit of a family holiday.
You've got a boy over there, young healthy on student exchange.
What a great trip you and missus Yolo.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Had, Yeah, Jamie had good to be here. It was
was a fantastic trip. Slightly warmer than what it is
back home at the moment, but but yeah, what a
beautiful country. What's some There's a heck of a lot
of history over there, isn't there. So it was good
to get around and have a look.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Did you queue up to go to what's the fountain?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Called? Help me out here?
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Oh they are Trivi fountains. We've got to stop front.
We actually took the lime scooters one morning to go
to the Colosseum, which we thought was kind of the
irony of two thousand years later rolling up to the
Colosseum on a couple of lives because we thought it
was quite funny as well. So Rome is a beautiful city. Yeah,
we had a lot of fun there for a couple
of days, and and and the rest of Italy as well.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
From the beauty of Rome to the med just of Graymouth.
And Greymouth is quite an attractive little town, more attractive
than it used to be.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I reckon.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I was there for Old Andy Thompson's egg Fest a
couple of years ago, and I thought, what a nice
little waterfront area that they've got in that town.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah, it's a good little flight. We stopped on Reefton,
which is again a town on the rise, and stopped
there the bakery to get a pie on the way.
And now we're just rolling in the Greymouth as we
speak to here to attend the AGM. The first time
I'm going to get to see Kenny Milner as a
West Coast Tasman candidate. So well, let's see what she's
got to say today as well.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Hey, she took your job because you were all lined
up to stand for West Coast Tasman for someone or other.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
Well, speaking of standing, I hear you were just speaking
to Winston. Is he your new bosses? That is what's
going on. You were talking about superannuation. I see you
just you just wanted to stand when you're dealing first
to get out of your super romish.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Oh shots fired. No, Winston was illegally using my image
for his propaganda videos. I'm going to have to have
a word with them. Well I did have a word
with them. He said he's going to get rid of them.
But that's that is fair enough. Katie Milne and all
seriousness will be and I think she'll get elected once
she she's certainly well on the West coast. What about
up in your neck of the woods, Nelson, Golden Bay.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Yeah, it should be. It should be a good race
news in trust your party there without putting someone up
as well on the case here, I think Gamy Klein,
so former mayor on the on the coast. So that'll
that'll track a few votes or spread the votes out
on the right hand side of the ledger. So but
you know, Katie's Katie's done a heck of a job.
And as I've mentioned before on the show, I think
(13:37):
you know of a job not only you know in
rural leadership, but also in conservation and that sort of
thing as well. So uh, you know that should be
seen well amongst the constituents of this AREACS, because we've
got a lot of that in this space for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Talking about women politicians, a lot of women are stepping
up to the presidential plate for Federated Farmers this year
because you're in the AGM season.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
Yeah, that's right, there is there is a you's stepping up,
which is great to see Kerry Harmer there and mid
Canterbury and Rosemary Costa out there in the Auckland province
as well, So all around the country are joining joining in.
It'll be great to have them involved with our National Council,
the National Councilors who make all of our policy decisions,
and so good to have some new thinking around the table.
(14:19):
That'll be be fantastic. Good to see them stepping.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Up and talking about New Zealand first. Of course, I'm
not a member of New Zealand first. Don't think I
ever will be like Winston. I don't know if i'd
ever vote for him. But anyhow, Jason Herrick, your Southland president,
has stood down to stand for New Zealand first, and
that's going to be an interesting elector at that one,
because you've got Jason Herrick for New Zealand. First, you've
(14:44):
got the sitting MP, Joseph Mooney, and then you've got
Peter McDonald, who's a Dipton farmer bill English country. He's
standing for Labor.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yes, it's going to make some things interesting, isn't it. Yeah.
I think you on first have had a bit of
a look through the feeds ranks to see who they
can grab. And I understand they grabbed a fuse from
across the country so they know where we're to go
looking for some quality talent. And yeah, when they were
typing Confederate and farmers, they must have typed in the
country at the same time, and I found someone there
(15:14):
the way.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I normally cracked the jokes on the show at Yolo,
So hey, you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Talk to me.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I'm just getting some revenge bag for the Labor Party
candidacy jokes as well a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
But I wasn't joking. I was deadly serious. That was
the oil I got at the National Lamb Day barbecue. Obviously,
when Katie put her hand up for National you thought, nah,
I don't want to go against her.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
I shouldn't believe everything here over a barbecue. That's what
this adn't.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Exactly Pin's Summit, and obviously the Primary Industry Awards as
well coming up in what twenty third and twenty fourth
of June. It's great and you've secured doctor Vaughan Holder
as a speaker this year. This is the guy behind
Well Without Cows the movie Well does it a movie
or docco? It's a doco?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Well, a bit of the one on Netflix thinks they're
all across in between, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So?
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Yeah? Good, try a good, great lineup a speakers. There's
some challenging ones last year that keep the crowd entertained
and made the tickets well worth their money. So anyone
that is wanting a bit of a winter break away
and a very good conference to go to up and
have an Auckland twenty third and twenty fourth. It is
a good, solid conference will pull together now. So I'd
(16:28):
encourage you to jump on to the Primary Industry Summit
website and check out the agenda and certainly get tickets
and get involved if if you can.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I must say you've got a great array of speakers,
and it is election year, so naturally there's plenty of politicians.
There's all the that's Shane. I don't know if, for
instance there, Shane's definitely there, Chris Hipkins is there. I'm
sure Joe Luxon Luxton will be there, and Damien will
probably turn up. But there's no sign that I can
see of a speaker from the Greens or to party. Mari,
(17:01):
uh no, shall we finish that conversation as that?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
No, I don't. I don't have an answer for that,
so so I'll just I'll just say no. Then that's
what they teach your media training is you don't have
an answer, just say no.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, well you can just be like once that I'm
just happy to be the MP for Towanna.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
That's right, that's right, but it should be good. And
in between that, of course, we've got the Pins Awards
that night, which is which is a standout event now
and really starting to build. Great to see we've got
the the no Ural Royal Woman of the Year Award,
which would be great. I see that they're bringing in
the media the media awards as well. There Agricultural Communicator
(17:41):
of the Year award and I think you've got your
name and for that one as well well.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I didn't put my own name and someone else did.
Andy Thompson was the only one who put his own
name on, but he missed the cut.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
Yeah, well, you'll have to brush off your brush off
your sick because you may get lucky and just just
get an award there.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
Well.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I think it's really good because those Agricultural Communicator of
the Year awards have been going for an age and
they used to be a formal dinner. It was really
good and it's kind of dissipated over the years and
it's become a sausage roll affair and just named the
Communicator of the Year. So I'm really glad they're doing
it at a really high profile event like that. And ditto,
(18:18):
there's a really strong field out there Wayne, for the
journalism award. I looked at all the finalists, including our
own Riley Kennedy from Business Desk, and they're all great
egg journals.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, you're right. The team that were organized in the
order to have kind of fantastic job, and we're certainly
trying to make them kind of the premium agricultural awards
that they are, you know, the non specific to certain
sectors that kind of broadbrush what I also love about
them and what's been the history of them as well
as includes some of our scientists and others involved in
those in those spaces that we don't often get to
(18:53):
hear about it, don't often get to see but have
you know a massive impact on the pastoral sector, on
what we do with our animals and everything, and so
to highlight them every now and then, every now and
then as well as a fantastic and.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
We honored doctor Robin Dines last year, didn't we.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see who gets the big
award this year, you know, the outstanding contribution to their
crop sector and it's always the highlight for the end
of the night. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see who
that is.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, you get your victory speech ready then yo, eas
Oh you've got a political career to come yet. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Now I'll go and enjoy Graymouth as the wife.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well you've enjoyed Rome with a lovely tyler anyhow that
Swain Langford, president of Federated Farmers, back on the tools
and Graymouth after a stint and.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Rome.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Michelle, Good afternoon. I'm in Lawrence this weekend, really looking
forward to it for the century farm and Station Awards
recognizing farms and stations that have been in family ownership
for one hundred years or more. I think of the
thirty six farms being recognized, twelve of them are Sesqui Centennial,
which means one hundred and fifty years of ownership, which
(20:10):
is absolutely fantastic. Now in your home patch of Bealcluther,
the Kluther rugby club and gee, there's some great players
come out of that rugby club as celebrating its one
hundred and fiftieth and they've got the new New Zealand
or the vice president, the new vice President of New
Zealand Rugby, David Crazy Latter. He's just an absolute legend
(20:33):
in Otago rugby guest speaker Mark Alice.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
So what could be interesting? What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But your days in Bealcluther was was did you have
any connections with the Kluther rugby club?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
I played for Kitungata, so no, not really I did see.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Kit Tungata is crescent, isn't it?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
It is Cresent. My dad was the manager of the
Colts for a number of years.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So I understand for the one hundred and fiftieth it's
the coal miners versus which is City Boys.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Was explained to you how big that game is. The
whole two towns will turn up to that game.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And Richie Hurring a bit of a legend in that
area as well. The wall guy in that neck of
the woods was telling me about how some of the
clubs in South Otago are struggling, and they're struggling simply
because of carbon farming. Especially in South Otago. It's taken
so many farms off the map and there's just not
(21:31):
enough young guys out there playing rugby for all these
teams to have rugby clubs.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's rather sad.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
We're going to talk carbon farming after the break with
Jane Smith. She's a North Otago farmer, former winner of
the Balanced Farm Environment Awards. You never die wondering what
she's thinking. Jane Smith, I'm going to talk about your
(22:00):
rates rise in the Waitaki district up to forty five percent, unbelievable,
and also exporting sheep your parandales to Japan. But if
I can, I'd like to start with the busload of
South American farmers that called into your place recently. They
couldn't believe at carbon farming disaster in this country.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Good afternon Jamie, Yes, that's right. So they were from
mainly from Brazil, but also from Uruguay, and they were
farmers and academics and university students in terms of during
genetics et cetera. And they had been traveling to the
ten days or so before they got here to look
at our genetics etca. And they were just go smacked
(22:42):
in regards to how we have let the Paris Agreement
overtake so many things that we do. And they're obviously
in the Paris Agreement, but of course they're still getting
aill in gas and do business as usual basically for them.
But they could not believe carbon farming. And one of
the main questions that they asked was how have sheep
farmers survived to date with that type of pressure and
(23:05):
the low poor returns, And you know, carried on doing
what we do what we do, but the loss of
land just those couldn't believe it. And you know, we'll
all win this feeling the same way a million stock
in it's a year, we're losing three hundred thousand heats.
And again, Jamie, this is this went on for far
too long and it hasn't actually been properly fixed and
you know again, I laugh. Actually when people say Paris
(23:27):
is our friend, and I've heard some of your commentators
say that, but in the same sentence say, you know,
they castigate the fact that carbon farming has happened. I mean,
you look at our energy costs, fuel costs, carbon farming,
land lost. It all feeds back to the Paris called Jamie,
and it's just a joke and it needs to stop.
And even if we have to take a short term
trade hit, it's better than losing that land out of
(23:49):
productivity for ever Jamie.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yes, And we've already spoken about carbon farming and its
effects on even you know, local communities, local rugby clubs,
lack of young blogs and women playing rugby because the
farms are growing trees rather than sheep and beef. And
there's a rich irony that sheep farmings come right, wolves better,
A lamb is very very good at the moment, that
land should be growing food, not trees. Hey, talk to
(24:14):
me about exporting sheep to Japan.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Yeah, so that's that's just something that we've done in
the last couple of weeks. And there's a few sheep
going from other parts of New Zealand as well, and
so it's interesting. Over in Japan, I think they've only
got about twenty to twenty five thousand sheep genetic pool
isn't isn't great, So they're wanting to export a number
of different breeds, of which our par and eales are
one of them. They actually have quite a worm burden
(24:40):
issue over there in terms of drench resistance, which is interesting,
and it'd be interesting to see how the sheep go.
I think they're indoors for about three months of the year,
so hopefully the Parandeals go all right at that, but
it's going to be fascinating Jamie, and to see how
they go. And New Zealand was their pick of places
to come to for genetics because again we've had to
be innovative with genetics and a fish with our sheep
(25:01):
just to survive the last I guess forty or fifty years.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Jamie.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, I'm glad you're making a few bucks out of
sheep farm and Jane, you will need to to pay
your rates in the Waitaki district.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, it's interesting, Jamie. I can write a book on us.
We now find ourselves in a kaleidoscope of bureaucratic Billimia
I would call it because they've thrown up a three
unpalatable waptions of the nineteen percent or twenty seven percent
or a forty five percent rise, with only the latter
having the outcome of balancing the books. So actually, well
(25:33):
done to the count's current councilors for settling up and
fronting up and understanding that. You know, they've been honest
with it. They've gone to the cupboard, and the cupboard
is beer, and so I don't know, you know, we
obviously need a forward it or an autopsy on what
has gone on, but looking forward, we actually need to
need to shape up. I mean, we've been bothering around
(25:54):
the last three years talking about a district plan and
hitting private property rates like you know, in terms of rights,
in terms of what they're doing down and gore, and
we've missed the big picture. We have Victorian water system
under our feet in the town like most towns, and
the red tape has been overwhelming that has been thrown
at these councils from the Crown and you know, like
(26:17):
it's interesting, you know, just to put the cat monks
of pigeons called Shane Jones Captain underpants and is and
his band is not so Mary men Have has also
said at the same time, of course we've got the
RMA changes, but also that we need to either amalgamate
or look at ways of changing.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Things in terms of working together.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
And I would suggest an amalgamation is the only way
to go, and I'm not against that. I really like
the idea of unitary authorities, even though Biggot isn't necessarily better.
But what Shane Jones and Winston has conveniently forgotten is
when they anointed to Cinderella and the Greens back in
twenty seventeen. In twenty eighteen, they put four well beings
into the regulation, so we actually put more focus on social,
(27:00):
environment and culture, and they seem to have forgotten the
fourth pillar, which is economic Jamie. And of course at
the same time we had David Parker punishing farmers with
a not for purpose environmental regime, so that all of
those costs and distractions and that's what they were, was
thrown on councils and they actually forgot the basic job.
So the three hours reticulation, roading rubbish and all of
(27:24):
those things have fallen by the wayside, and we find
ourselves in an untenuable position. Jamie.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well, I know you didn't hear the Winston Peters interview,
but he conveniently forgets about twenty seventeen and anointing. Hey Jane,
thanks for your time today. Good luck for your angus
bullsar which is coming up. I think next month we'll
catch you ahead of you selling some black gold. Thanks
for your time today, Thanks Jamie, Good on you, Jane,
and we're going to talk angus bulls with Callum McDonald
(27:51):
Chris Russell to come, but up next it's rural news
and sports news. Well, welcome back to the country. Nineteen
away from one. Here's Rural News with Michelle.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The Country's rural news with cub Cadet. It's one thing
to talk innovation, another to back it up drive it.
We dare you visit steel Ford dot cot On NZ
for your local star guest.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Sinley Milk Chief executive Richard Wyfe has resigned after just
over twelve months in the job. Bright Dairy appointed director
Leon Fung, who will take over his acting CEOs of
May the fourteenth. The announcement was made to the n
z X this morning. Richard will remain with the company
until June thirtieth to support and orderly transition handover. No
reason has been given for his departure and that's rural news.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, it's tough gig running sin Lay. He's done a
very good job at the dairy companies he's been with
before that.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Richard Wyth go well his sport.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sport on the country with Alfco business well done.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
New Zealand work at keeper Tom Blundell isn't worried about
his four heading into the upcoming tour of Ireland and England.
The thirty five year old's gone past fifty just twice
in his last thirty two testings, but a still upbeat
saying isn't concerned about anyone nipping at his heels. He's
totally focused on playing to his strengths and Warriors playmaker
Luke metcalf for Pairs poised to sort his future at
(29:20):
another n our NRL club by the end of the week.
He's reportedly met with the Dragons and Bulldogs in the
last few days. That sport up next balls with Callum McDonald.
Monthly here on the Country we catch up with the
team from PGG Rights and Livestock. Have a look at
what's happening on farm. I'll tell you what's happening on
(29:42):
farm at the moment. The autumn bullsals have kicked off.
In fact, I think they kick off today. Obviously for
beef there's a hell of a lot of interest at
the moment. Let's chat to the National Genetics manager, Callum McDonald,
a good Southlander, new blood on the country today. Callum,
you've just landed the top job. Are we going to
break last year's record price of one hundred and sixty
(30:03):
one thousand dollars for an angus ball?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Wow? You think, Tommy, Yeah, I think there's some million
dollar question to be fear. But yeah, with the beef
industry where it is at the moment, you know, thing's possible.
And I think, you know, so as the right ball
comes along and the right it's all the right boxes,
I think, yeah, it would be nice to see that.
But yeah, well, as you said, we start with bull
(30:27):
sales this week and they sort of run to the
next six weeks. So yeah, hopefully we do. And yeah,
well we certainly you know, out there looking and expecting balls,
making sure that if that ball is out there, we'll
find them.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
So yeah, now it was I think it was tangy.
How wasn't it up in Gisbane. That's where the record
ball came from last year. As we saide hundred and
sixty one thousand dollars, what have you seen so far
to make you think you might break that record?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We've definitely seen, you know, with three conditions where it
has been in the castile prices and you know, they
said we're in uncharted here you here with you schedules
and and you know with the beef prices at the moment,
so you know, everything is lining up. But then with genetics,
it's you've got to they've got to be the right
ones and they've got to be fit for purpose, and
you know there's a lot goes into it, and yeah,
(31:14):
a lot of wherek It's been put on behind the
scenes in the last you know, six seven weeks to
make sure that that happens and build into these sales.
And you know, as you said, we're starting this week
and the next next six weeks is going to be
a pretty hectic time. But it's pretty exciting too. And
I think it's good to see the sheep and beef
farmers having their day in the sun. And you know,
I think it's it's all positive, which is which is
(31:35):
really nice to see.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
To any of the other beef breeds get near the
angus price wise.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, they do, like we he's you know, and it's
here's saying genetics. We're always looking for that top ball,
and you know, regardless of what breed it is, and
you know, those top top balls of any breed are
always sought after, you know, to take that individual breed forward.
So all those breeders are always looking for that next
ball and regardless of where the marketers that, they're always
(32:02):
looking for the top balls. But it certainly helps them.
There's a bit more money being thrown around the industry.
But yeah, stud balls and those ary topping balls of course,
is what we're talking about. Is you know, they don't
come around that often, but when they do, it's pretty
cool and they add a bit of vie to the
beef industry and you know, for years to come.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So I think a couple of our regular correspondents have
got angus ball studs Jane Smith, Stu Duncan. So they'll
be on the calendar. Get a shameless plug in for
their sales.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yes, yeah, no, there, yes, to do sales on Friday
and the Fossil Creek ones further later on during the
during the season, so you know they're both both big
out of the farm at the moment, you're hoping that
their sales go well.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Callum McDonald, a newly minted national genetics manager for PGG
Rights and first time to the Batter's box on the country.
You did well, well done. Great to catch up with
another South London.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, always good thanks Jamie ranging.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bitsify.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's more.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Our Australian correspondent, Chris Russell, as based out of Sydney. Chris,
we've got our budget coming up on the twenty eighth
of May. Goodness knows how we're going to balance the books.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
We can't.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
You certainly couldn't this week in Australia.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
Well, I mean Jim Chalmers, the Treasurer, he's really broken
a holt. That's all the publicity is about, all these
broken promises. You know. I think that the quote that
came from Andrew of Albanesi last year when he was
going to the electorate was for the fiftieth time there
will be no changes to capital gain tax or negative
(33:38):
gearing or other investments. And what has he done changed
all of those things? So you don't have capital gain
sex in New Zelle and I think, do you do
you Jomi, No.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But the Labor Party has it on the table as
an election policy, so who knows.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
We might have it had it on they had it
here for a long time. But it's been heavily discounted
so that in fact to cut it back well back.
But as for next year, there's going to be no
discounts at all. So you're going to pay thirty percent
of the capital gains tax on your whatever you sell
in terms of property. And there's also going to be
big changes to being able to negatively gear an investment property.
(34:18):
So in other words, if you have a property and
you spend money on it, you can write off the
cost of that against income your earning elsewhere. Well that's
all going to end as well. Now, this is all
supposed to be in line with their request for generational
equity as they're calling it, where older Australians are getting
more benefit from tax and those things and what the
(34:38):
younger Australians are. But I fear that what's going to
happen is it's just going to take out where the
money is, all the baby boomers where the money is.
They start putting their money into property and seeing that
is a good investment. There's not going to as much
property around for rental law for use in a market
that's already so short of housing. So he's getting a
lot of flak about all that. I think that's going
(35:00):
to carry on the opposition of indicator that they're going
to completely dump it if they get into power, But
that's not going to happen anytime soon. So you know,
we're going to see quite some seismic changes. There has
been some little benefits from primary production. They're going to
get a fifteen fourteen point eight billion dollar fuel resilience package,
(35:23):
which includes seven and a half billion for near term
fuel and fertilizer purchases and three point two billion to
create a fuel security reserves. You know, that's that's probably
all good stuff. And the other thing is we'll be
able to write off continue to write off twenty thousand
dollars worth of purchases in the year in which they're purchased.
(35:44):
This is capital purchases, rather than depreciating them over a
period of time. Again, that's been going on year by year.
Now that's become permanent. But really I just think that
this is the flat from this broken promises argument is
what's ruling the air at the moment.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Jomie, Yeah, and One Nation had a win on that
Farah by election. I want to move on from politics
to talk about farming. Record cattle slaughter rates and record
record prices for Australian and New Zealand beef for that matter,
heading to the US.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Yes, well, we've seen our slaughter in twenty twenty five
go up twelve percent in slaughter rates to nine point
two eight million head. Now we've only got twenty two
million head in Australia or thereabouts, so you know that's
a massive slaughter rate. It's just behind the twenty fifteen
record of nine point five million. Now the twenty twenty
(36:41):
six outlook Rabobank has predicted that center climb another two
percent to nine point four seven million, and an additional
two percent in twenty twenty seven. So we're seeing a
lot of cattle being slaughtered. Of course, this all comes
about from the big demand from the US, particularly for
ham burger type meat, but that's changing as well because
(37:03):
people are requiring more and more high quality you meet
America as the Ezambic effect bites, so the whole market's
changing for beef, and the Chinese have just issued more
licenses for even though their quotas are still in place,
They've issued more licenses, so they're expecting that to be
a prelude to an increase in our quota as well.
(37:24):
And of course in America they've still got tremendously low
beef for numbers and beef for cattle price in the
United States are at record highs at the moment, with
imports increasing. So during the beef market, one hundred and
forty six thousand tons of beef cent is sent to
the United States this year, which is up thirteen months
(37:46):
on the first four months of last year.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Jamie, good money if you can get at Chris russell
amount of time. Thanks for yours today on the country.
We'll catch you next week. No worries, thanks, Chris says,
wrapping the country with some of your feedback, Jamie. The
mere thought of and Shane being in charge of the
purse strings causes nightmares. Keep poking borax that Winnie the
Pooh is full of it and can't be blamed. Another
(38:09):
text is saying stop cuddling up to Winston. Didn't realize
I did. And here's an interesting one. On the back
of council disasters across the country, every district and regional
council needs to be audited and installed immediately with commissioners.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
We'll catch you with doctor John Roach from MPI on
tomorrow's show.
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