February 16, 2026 • 37 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Sir David Carter, Andy Borland, Jane Smith, Tom Young, and Dave Martin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Aisuzu Get Demo deals
on the tough Dmax today.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ring up fall in on my head And just like
the guy's feed are too big for his bed, London
seems to fit those ring up the fall in on
my head.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Think you fall in. Good afternoon, New Zealand, And it's
not a good afternoon in a lot of places. This
is the country. I'm Jamie McKay. Yet lots of rain
drops falling on lots of heads right around the country.
The storm has moved south from the North Island. It
is now pummeling Canterbury and heading down south to where
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I'm domiciled, Dunedin Banks Peninsula particularly hardly or particularly hard
that I thought, what farmers do I know on Bank's Peninsula?
I knows. David Carter, former Minister of Agriculture, former Speaker
of the House these days, farming on Bank's Peninsula has
been for a long long time. David put this rainfall
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event in some sort of historic perspective for me. Good afternoon,
Good acton, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, we've been here for just over forty years and
we've never seen anotherent like this in excess or. We've
measured two hundred and fifty mills, but at one stage
their own cage overflowd overnight, so neighbors are reporting up
to three hundred. The interesting thing is it didn't start
to sort of help us. Four called to five last night.
So it's been an absolute weather bomb.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, huge rainfall numbers and you basically cut off banks, peninsula.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Parts of a lot of the road to cut off.
We personally were cut off. We've got a huge tree
that's come down over our drive. We can't get out.
Got a diger organized to come and tomorrow and we'll
try and clear that mess. My daughter lives further down
the drive. She's been able to get out to the
other farmland we own and check stock. So we're flooded,
but we haven't lost anything of lost water supply and
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that sort of thing to the house because we're Pipelines
across the creek have just gone. We've never seen creeks
as raging as they are this done.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And what about landslips on your hells. You won't have
had a chance to get out and have a look.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I've had a bit of a look, yes, definitely got
some of those.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, okay, I've just got to push notification through. A
state of emergency has been declared and banks peninsula. So yeah,
it is pretty bad, David Carter.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's bad. But I've got to say in the last
hour or so the rains EA staff, the flooding that
we're experiencing. We're at Teddington, which is between Governor's Ban
Diamond Harbor. The water levels are going down, but that
might be different open places like Little River for example.
So but declared a state of emergency, it doesn't supply me.
As I said at the start of this, this is
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the worst or the biggest rainfall I've ever seen in
forty years plus on the peninsula.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And your sheep and beef farming on the peninsula. But
what about the poor buggers and I use that word respectfully,
who are arable farmers on the Canterbury Plains. They just
can't catch a break.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They're having the worst they're having a horror years. The
only way you could describe it to these guys. So
if you're in red meat, your sheep and beef on
benks man. So frankly, I've been skouting to everybody until
today that this is the best season we've seen. We're
still green, we're normally brown and worrying about drought at
the stumpy year, but mid Canterbury JASKI it is getting hammered.
I feel for those copping guys. The prices there aren't
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is buoyant as we find in the in the dairy
sector or the red meat sector. Not only have they've
got the prices against them, and now I've got weather
where in many cases harvest will be written off completely.
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, absolutely, it's tough. Have you known sheep and beef
farming to be better? Even wool, even strong's bouncing back up?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, I don't think I have. I could say it's
I've ever had as much confidence I've got. Now. What
I like is the outlook still looks pretty promising for
a few years. I'm not saying it's going to be
good forever, but it's an international supply and demand story.
In my mind and right around the world, sheep farming
hasn't been profitable. People respond with rational economic decisions and
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move into other enterprises. That means the world's supply is
greatly diminished, and we're seeing a resurgence of interest in
our red meat. Long may it last?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, it's a last man's standing scenario. If you hang
in there for long enough, you'll be rewarded.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And deservedly so. And now what we've got to do
is make sure the government get the numbers to get
the free trade agreement through with India, and that's another
boost to the sheep.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well I've got I was going to ask you about that,
because it'd be fair to say you and Winston have
clashed swords on numerous occasions in the past. What do
you make of as posturing around the retrade agreement?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's all around votes at the next dilection. What he's
doing is found a point of difference. It's got no
logic whatsoever. And of any shit farm or anywhere in
New Zealand thinks they all out in New Zealand flers
that have to have rocks in their head. But frankly,
he's all about positioning himself for the next election and
as soon as the numbers are finally counted, if he's
in a strong position, he'll use that strength to his advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He would never go with labor again, though, would he.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I wouldn't trust that at all. It'll be a matter
of what's the best deal for Winston Peters personally.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh hard, harsh words. Maybe what we know him? Well, yes,
I know you do? I know you well. He's very litigious.
Is that the word?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, indeed you as you've found out. Anyhow, well we'll
watch Winston with a keen eye. And the other one
that I do catch up with you and you've done
a great job, you and your team around the christ
Church or the Canterbury A and P Show, which was
under threat of collapsing completely. You've renovated that. It's had
a renaissance. This last year was second year back. It
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was much better than the year before, and this year
promises to be even better.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
We're working on that already. The board's working very very
constructively with the large General Committee, which is effectively the
volunteers that make the show work. We're going to make
a few changes. We probably won't go with a raw
show status this year because that eliminates the opportunity for
us to actually get a naming right sponsor, which is
something we're working on now. What I'm determined to do
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is make sure that that Canterbury AMP gets back to
a financially sound position, so it's there for the future.
And while last year we made a reasonable profit, if
you get bad weather on any of those show days,
you're at risk. It's a risky business that we're in.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're going to be chatting very shortly to Andy Borland.
I'm sure you know Andy, Andy Well yep, the chief
executive of Scales. Of course we're running. Did you go
to Lincoln?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Indeed, okay, well you should. You should be going down
to the Wanaker show because we're having a Lincoln fundraising
dinner there. We're going to talk to Andy about that.
I'll keep the power to dry on that one. But
is Wanaka now has it now surpassed christ Church is
the biggest AMP show now?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I don't think it has. I think we put that
to bed last year with a very successful show. Wannacker
is a great show. No criticis or Wanaka and it's
been well organized by a man called Keith Kepper who's
done a fantastic job. He's also giving us advice at Canterbury.
We've got to make sure that Canterbury AMP becomes the
premiere show not only in New Zealand but in Australasia.
And that's the intention, and I won't be able to
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make the Wannaker Show this year because I'll be too
busy mandering fences and floodgates because of the rain.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Jamie Well, our thoughts are with you and all the
other Banks Peninsula farmers and all the arable farmers on
the Canterbury Plains. They are tough times. Indeed, Mother Nature
she's a cruel mistress. David Carter, Sir David Carter.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It's the challenges of farming. We enjoy it and that's
why we do it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. There
we go, David Carter. It is fifteen after twelve. You
may know that also as quart of aass twelve up
next to you, Andy Borland, We're going to stick with
christ Church. She's the chief executive of Scales. One of
the co organizers of that Lincoln University sports dinner. Andy Dalton,
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Gary Stead Cast one thousand's going to be there for that.
Jane Smith as an Auckland I think she's in Auckland today.
She apparently is taking time out to chat to us
at lunchtime on her self reflection break. She's on a
director's course. I wonder how that goes down with her.
Tom Young, National Livestock Manager for AFC AS David Carter said,
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farmers are enjoying record returns for red meat, but the
red meat companies or the meat companies aren't making money.
And Tom reckins the current prices are not sustainable and
has a good news farming story. Hopefully to finish the
show if I can track them down on Wairoa. That
is Dave Martin East Coast Farming Expo gets underway tomorrow.
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Plus we're going to tell you how you can win
some tickets to the Golden Shares and World Sharing Champs
coming up in Masterton in early March.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It won't be alone to have been step.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
To get me.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Andy Borland is the chief executive of Scales Corporation. Of
course huge in horticulture, logistics and Andy. These days, pet
food makes up the majority of your commodity basket. I
always thought you were sort of more horticulture than pet food.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Oh yeah, thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah no yet.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
We've diversified Dane and our own pet food ingredients business
over the last few years and it's gone very well
with the growth and pet food globally, and we've followed
that trend and doing really well in that sector as
well as our hot logistics activities.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So who would have known all those years ago when
we went to Lincoln College, as it was on those
days together, that you would make your living out of
dog Tucker.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh, well, it's pets are popular. We've got more and
more popular, you know, around the world, and it's been
a really good ride. Actually, it's a good industry to
be in.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Talk to me about horticulture, particularly apples, that's what you're
involved on. How big a deal is this Indian free
trade agreement going to be?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Oh, it's going to be very important to us. It
halves the tariff from fifty to twenty five percent, gives
us a window to access that opportunity. It's a massive market.
We already sell to it, so it's into that India market,
but it's going to be a very important, you know,
market for us going forward.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Are you a bit worried about the politicians cocking it up?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
No, No, I think they'll sort it out. They know
how important it is, so it's you know, it's not
just suiting one of the parties. I think it's going
to be a positive for the entire country. So they
should be backing it, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And scales, how my scales shar is going. Have you
cracked six bucks yet?
Speaker 6 (11:29):
They're going pretty good. Yeah, we've been in around the
six dollars lately and that's just you know, a bit
of momentum going with us, you know, on track for
a record result for the twenty twenty five year.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Now, the other reason I've got you on the show
today is for a shameless plug. As I said, we
went to Lincoln College together in the early eighties. These
days it's Lincoln University, you guys, you and are one
of your old mates from those days. Donald Howie Morrison
of course, former Alliance Group director, are kind of the
co orger organizers of this backing Lincoln University Sports supporters
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dinner in Wanaka on the eve of the Wanaka Show,
which is one of the biggest a MP shows in
the country maybe if not the biggest.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Now, yeah, no, it's a big event and look there's
a lot go to it. So we the Lincoln lads
if you like, from the south and in the target
there's Alistair Woods involved and a few others down there.
They sort of said, well, why don't we get an
event going to keep the momentum going because we had
a reunion in May last year and it went really
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well up here in christ Church, and so that the
plan is to just keep a bit of momentum going,
tap into that huge loyalty and remembering of their times
at Lincoln to get these get along to a great reunion.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
We'll have good speakers.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
We're actually lucky, very lucky to have Alan Dippy's Tractor
Museum as a venue. But Andy Dalton's coming down to speak,
a former All Black and a Lincoln alumni, and Gary
and Rachel Stead are obviously very connected in sport through
cricket and netboss that speaking, and we'll have a couple
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of surprise characters that you'll interview off the bench.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Jamie looking forward to that. You've called me as an MC.
I'm not sure I want to reflect on all my
Lincoln days. They were a bit rough around the edges,
to be perfectly honest, Andy Borland. But Andy Dalton when
he was at Lincoln, I don't think he even made
the first fifteen and he went on to rugby greatness.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, well it just shows you, you know a bit
of a maybe a late bloomer, but that is I
think true. Just he must must have been a good
guy in there keeping him out. But that rugby Lincoln's
been you know, there's been some great players, but you
know the beauty of the institution that's it's available for
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all comers, and we really want to promote all of
sport Jamie. You know, the kids go to university these
days and we just want them to have the greatest
the education but also the opportunity to do whatever sport
they want. And that's certainly a know what we're trying
to target here by the fundraising.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, it's happening on Thursday the twelfth, the March, six
pm for pre dinner drinks followed by dinner and speakers.
Andy Dalton, Gary Stead of course former Black Caps coach's
wife Rachel, who is huge in a netball at Lincoln University.
And as you said, being held in the vintage tractor
garage of Alan Dippy, who's qualified with the bad com
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He was just after us in nineteen eighty five. Those
Dippies are interesting characters, very entrepreneurial and successful people.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, very good and it's a great privilege for
us to access that venue. And yeah, look there's Lincoln.
You know, alumni all over the country doing really well
and it's a credit to the institution and I just think, yeah,
we're trying to get as many of them long to
this event to put a bit of money back into
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the university by way of supporting the sports activities there.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, the website is or the address, the link is
Alumni link all one word dot Lincoln, dot AC dot
nz Ford slash Wonica Dinner. Just google Lincoln Wonica Dinner.
It will get you there and every cent being raised
will go to supporting Lincoln University sport. Hey, Andy, I
was going to call you Andy Dalton. I'll call you
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Andy balland you were a great rugby player as well.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Absolutely, I keep up the.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Good work at Scales and get those shares up to
seven bucks.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, well that's the plan. We're on track.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well you stay on track, Andy, There you go. So
if you're in that neck of the woods, you're in
town for the Wanica a MP show. David Carter did
tell us that christ Church is or Canterbury still the
biggest AMP show. It is being held on Thursday, the
twelfth of March at Alan Dippey's Vintage tractor Garrett, which
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they tell me is amazing in itself. Andy Dalton, Gary Stead,
Rachel's Dead, and a couple of surprises off the bench.
It's going to be a great night. Raise some money
for your old college slash university. Up next. Jane's she's
former Lincoln College as well. I think Jane Smith, or
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was she Massy I don't know, but she's neither in
christ Church or PALMEI today. I think she's in Auckland
and she's having a self reflection break on a director's course,
one of life's great cynics. I wonder how she goes
on that one. Rural News and Sports News Tom Young
from AFCO, Dave Martin on the East Coast Farming Expo
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getting underway and when Michelle wanders in here, we're going
to tell you how you can win a double pass.
Let me see what I've got. I've got a double
pass for the Saturday daytime event. Okay, like Hen's Teeth
later in the week. We've got a double pass to
the Saturday evening championship event. And you literally cannot get
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a ticket for that anymore. So it's going to be fantastic.
We'll tell you about that before the end of the
hour as well on my head. She is a North
Otago farmer, a former winner of the Balanced Farm Environment Awards.
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In these days a professional director, but to be qualified
for the latter she needs to go on a director's course.
Her name is Jane Smith. Jane, we catch you this
lunch break on a self reflection break. What have you
self reflected on?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Good a Jamie, Well, I've got a lot of self
reflection to do, apparently, because one, I'm not a fan
of course courses, especially those that get you in touch
with your faults, of which I have many and varied.
I think I'd rather be crutched lands today. But I
guess one point that has been glary obvious to me
today is you know, I could have been gluten intolerant
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or let's host intolerant, but I'm actually relatively people intolerant,
particularly those that you meet that they tell you what
their job description or what their job title is, and
you think, actually, what do you do all day? And
so I've got a little bit a little bit more
reflective around that, and a bit more apparently respective to
people that aren't necessarily in the productive parts of our
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sector or our economy.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Jamie and you're talking about activists and diversity experts. It's
all about the vibe. Jane.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
It's really interesting, Jamie. I I'm in closely following the
Public Service Amendment Bill of twenty five and twenty six.
So this is of course touted to repair or replace
the Public Service Act of twenty twenty and essentially, as
your listeners will no doubt, no, it's talking about actually
hiring people on their merits, Jamie. Imagine that on a
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merit rather than their diversity, so that twenty twenty at
ask them to have a diversity higher content in terms
of that reflected society. And so potentially there's going to
be changing changing the public sector of what she has
been some changes made already. And you know, in a
country like New Zealand, it has woeful productivity stats. I think,
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what was it, ninety three to twenty thirteen, we were
one point four percent, which isn't great, but the last
ten years we've been point two percent productivity. And you know,
again the unionist activists and the socialists of the country
seem to think we can tax our way into prosperity,
which we can't, and we need to increase our productivity
Jamie and I guess descend the board in those values
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based productivity measures. And that is why Jamie she's still
flying around New Zealand or the world on her broomstick
and can't actually land back in New Zealand because our
economy is in dire straits.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Because well, I'm thinking of petitioning in z me who
I contract myself to, and thinking that they should kind
of do like a diversity because let's face at, pale, stale,
middle aged male boomers like myself and now very much
a minority, and I'm thinking I perhaps deserve some special
extra and you'll leave them. And if I rung A
Tamareki can do it, why can't then send me.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
I'm sure you're up in some sort of long service
leave or something, joey, But yes, you're right. You are
quickly becoming a minority and you will be in demand.
And I think the other interesting thing about this is
they're going to require public service executives to reapply for
their job on a certain term, be at three years,
five years, et cetera. So I thought I'd take that
bet to the farm later in the week and asked
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Blair to apply for his job. But I actually I've
just been rolling them over on a ninety day trial
period for the last few years, which has worked quite well.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Let's just quickly finish because I'm running out of time.
You're also up in arms. You're up in arms about
everything you need to learn to relax during your self
reflection break, Chane. But you're quite rightly up in arms
about two hundred and fifty rural school bus runs being
cut or they're being examined. That's the last thing rural
in New Zealand I would have thought needed an Jamie.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
And I think that the term has been reviewed, which
we always know. O review is generally a cut in
the public sector.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So we're so.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
I guess a lot of these bus contracts have been
with local bus companies, and a lot of them have
been amalgamated into bigger companies, and then obviously all of
the margins are being pressed. And so there's fifty I
think about fifty five thousands rural kids on bus routes
at the moment, and this has huge implications in terms
of you know, a lot of these families are driving
a long way just to get to the school bus
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on the existing route, and if these are changing and
all being cut. Massive implications in terms of being able
to encourage young families to come and work on farms
and live in communities if there is no bus system
and or there is a long way distance to get
to those buses. Massive line effects for numbers at schools
and encouraging teachers and young families into those is Jamie. So,
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I mean the nets say they want eighty to nine
percent score attendance, that these type of things are really
pushing against that. And again quite often the minority. Here
we go, rural people get forgotten about, Jamie, and you
know again we've got to keep that economy running and
those community service Jamie.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Jane Smith, I know your self. Reflection break is coming
to an end. Just remember be a bit more tolerant
of people, including activists and diversity experts.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Okay, thanks Shemy.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
That's my work on for the day.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
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give you an opportunity to want a double pass. We've
got a few of these this week. Double Pass to
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the seventh of March sides with the World Championships. We've
got Tyler Henderson and Roland Smith representing us and I
reckon their odds on to win the team's event and
one of those two will win the World Championship. That's
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my call. Up Next Rural News and Sports News with
Michelle and the Golden Shares giveaway for me cards. Welcome
back to the country. Just before we get Michelle with
the latest and Rural News. Okay, we've got some Golden
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Shares double passes to give away today. All you need
to do is text us on five double oh nine
to win. Just text the word golden. You need golden,
that's the key word, and your name to five double
oh nine and we'll give away a pass. Tomorrow we
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might give a couple away actually to the Saturday daytime event.
I think you can still buy tickets for the Saturday
daytime session because there's going to be five hundred competitors
from twenty eight countries competing to be crowned the Supreme
Champion of Golden Shares in conjunction with the World Championships.
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I'll find out if there's any tickets left for the
Saturday evening Championship event the War Memorial Hall and master
them will they'll lift the roof, believe you me. So
we'll find out if there's any tickets left for that,
and we've got a couple of double passes to give
away to that as well before the end of the
week here. So what you need to do is text
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Golden and your name to five double oh nine if
you want to go along to the Golden Shares on
the final day, that is Saturday, the seventh of March.
Here's Michelle with the latest and rural news.
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And once again it's all about the weather. This time.
Canterbury is being hit quite hard here in Dunedin actually
it's pretty wet as well, and I heard last night
they were like getting sand bags and things like that
together as well. So just prepare yourselves. Streets in christ
Stretch of flooded this morning and the region is bracing
itself more heavy rain throughout the day and orange heavy
Rain warning is in place for Banks Peninsula till six
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pm today with sixty million meters to eighty million meters
of rain on top of what already has fallen that
is going to be expected and as a moderate chance
of this being upgraded to a red warning. The Dunedin
City Council is offering sand bags as I mentioned before,
as we are being hit by heavy rain as well,
and Met Service has a heavy rain watch in place
for Dunedin until seven pm two nights. So just keep
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an eye on those warnings and all that forecast stuff
because you know, stay safe up there, guys.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
We don't want anyone had to higher ground if in doubt.
And they have declared a state of emergency on Banks Peninsula,
has sport.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Spores on the country with a fco business. Well done.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Interesting story this one, because I thought this guy would
have been in the hunt this year under a new coach.
All Blacks Loose forward Dalton Pope Lee is outlining his
reasons for what he's calling one of the hardest decisions
of his life. The twenty eight year old will leave
the Blues at the end of the Super Rugby season
to take up a three year contract with French Top
fourteen team Carstra Olympique Populi. He says he's made some
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amazing memories in his decade with the Blues, but it
was time to re evaluate after he and his partner
recently welcomed a baby daughter. And in sadder news, former
kiwis wing A NRL premiership winner Matt Utai is said
to be fighting for his life after a shooting in Sydney.
Police say an suv drove past the home and fired
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shots from the vehicle. Not good at all. Up next,
Tom Young at a Hawk's Bay where the storm has
passed through and farmers are enjoying record returns for red meat.
But apparently, according to Tom anyhow, the meat companies aren't
making any money. So are the current prices sustainable? We'll
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ask them and we're going to go up the road
to finish the show to Waira and Dave Martin, one
of the guys behind the East Coast Farming Expo getting
underway in that fine town tomorrow. He is f co's
National Livestock Manager. His name is Tom Yang. We're going
to talk about red meat. It's very expensive at the moment,
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very good returns for farmers, but can it last before
we do? Though time you're based out of Hawk's Bay.
How's the weather. I understand you guys have fared a
bit better than other places in the North Island and
other places in the South Island as the storm moves south.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Yeah, well, hi Jamie, Yeah no, we actually probably came
through the weather event in a pretty good state. So
hit my place in what I had thirty or forty
miles of rain and a little bit of win. But
we haven't had anywhere near the problems are the regions
have had anything to complain about it all.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Really, all this rain in the North Island means a
hell of a lot of grass and that has seen
the store stock market go nuts, for want of a better.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Word, it sure has, yep, and I think well, speaking
from perspective over here, I mean we've got more grass
and I've probably seen in three years. But we're seeing
a lot of speculation around the value of I guess
the future venues of our fat stock, and so people
are chasing store stock pretty hard and paying a lot
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of money for it. I can say it is likely
that there are schedule drops coming. So we were sitting now,
we're not making any money, and we've had the New
Zealand dollar against us for quite some weeks. Markets overseas
are starting to soften and we need to have suddenly
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going into the bank now to maintain the factories and
also spend money on CAPIC. So this is a bit
of an industry wide thing, not just an f CO thing,
So it's likely schedules will start to decline.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
At the moment, lamb is nearly what eleven dollars a kilo.
It's never been there before. Record prices. Beef is over
nine dollars a kilogram. We look at those numbers from
the Meat and Industry Association for twenty twenty five, a
red meat worth eleven point seven billion, a sheep meat
four point seven billion, up thirty one percent in value,
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beef worth five billion to our economy up fifteen percent
in value despite decreases in volume. Are these levels sustainable.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Well, based on what I'm seeing today, probably not not
in the short term. I think we've probably got a
bit of a perfect storm, and we've been through a
perfect storm where we've had Obviously, the schedules have chased
themselves up. The markets have gone pretty well. But now
where we're sort of sitting, we were sitting mainly because
of the shortage of stock. Everyone's with grass. But I think,
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you know, in the next probably a month or two months,
we've certainly got to see some sort of decline on venues.
But hey, look if you had if you took a
dollar out of a lamb, a dollar aquila and you
came back to ten, I don't think too many people
would be complaining about that in March April, would they?
And if you took a dollar achillo out of beef
and you came back to eight dollars early eight, So
it's it's still spectacular money.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You're not trying to talk down the market, are you?
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Well, I sort of am, because I think it needs
to get a bit more real and I think it's
a little bit overcocked at the moment, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So Tom Young Hod of hawks By, you're busy talking
down the market, you obviously haven't got in the ear
of Mark Warren, who's talking about a fifteen hundred dollars lamb.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yeah, that's that's a good price for lambers. But I mean,
I thought I thought we'd done pretty well when we're
paying a farm around there tend on a ninety mark.
But obviously Mark Warren's got the rest speeder to sell
it for a little bit more. So we won't talk
about it anymore, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What about the age old problem for the meat and
street as you fight for stock a procurement war, there'll
be one of those coming up at the end of
the season, as surely as night follow's day.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Well, there's already one now. I don't think there's any
such thing as any week that goes by that where
there isn't procurement tension. So the days of having spear
of stock in the summer, and you know, and people
could probably lean on the schedule a bit and take
money out of it pretty much over. So when we
start taking money out of schedules now we're doing it
for the reasons that there is I guess little margin
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left to work on. And so the old days we
had thousands of spare lambs or thousands of spare countle
we just don't see it anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Did you celebrate National Lamb Day on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Actually, sure, well you should have.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You've probably got access to a lamb rack reasonably cheaply,
I would imagine, Tom, come on.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I think I did have a piece of rebel ei
of that count I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's not on National Lamb Day. Look, I must say
I went to my local countdown because I've been mouthing
off about National Lamb Day all last week. I thought
I better walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
And I was able to buy a lovely lamb leg
roast for nineteen dollars ninety nine akilo, and the farmers
getting eleven bucks Akilo. That's great, that's great buying.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, it is good buying. It is good buying.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
It was only a year, it was only a month
or two back. They were probably selling those leagues for
eighties ninety dollars from what I recall.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think they still are in some places. But good
on countdown a shameless plug. The supermarkets get plenty of
grief for specialing lamb on National Lamb Day. Okay, Tom,
We'll await with baited breath to see whether you can
talk the market down and make some money.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yes, thanks Jamie.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Some talk.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Read fun wrapping the country. We're heading up the road
a bit from Hawk's Bay to Oiroa. There we find
Dave Martin, one of the guys behind the East Coast
Farming Expo. And just remember if you want to go
to the Golden Shears Saturday after noon the daytime event
texts Golden and your name and your address to five
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double O nine. We'll give away a couple of double
passes tomorrow. Dave Martin, when you get tidied up with
the East Coast Farming Expo, which is for sheep and
beef farmers on the East Coast, will you be heading
down to the Golden Shares.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I think it'll be done in dusted by the time
we finished tidying up. Jamie, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, there's some It's going to be a great event
with the World Champs on a bit of a swan song.
I think for the likes of certainly for Roland Smith,
you would think anyhow, okay, your show gets under way tomorrow.
I think we're catching up with Craig Wiggy Wiggins. Lean
on a gate, talk to a mate who's going to
be there tomorrow. What have you got to entice the
punters along? And has the weather played ball for.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
You in terms of the weather, Jamie, we've been very lucky.
We we only had all one hundred and twenty five meals,
which is just a share for us, and so no
damage and no flooding. So we're bloody lucky compared to
the last couple of years ago. And really thinking of
all our brother and farming brethren down in the manor
or two in Benks Peninsula and the like. Its know
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how that goes. It's pretty tough time.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, well you guys got completely whacked, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It was three years ago, a cyclone cabral It doesn't
seem like that long ago, but it put paid to
the East Coast farming event. So who's coming along? As
I said, what's there to entice the punters?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Oh? Great seminar series as per usual Jamie Glocks of
Doctor Jack and Rowers, and we got Chloe Butcher Harries,
who's quite prominent on the social media. She's also as
a Young Farmer of the Year. She's coming along to speak.
Plus we had a few panel discussions with catchment groups
and whatnot, which is pretty exciting. And Peter Alexander all
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the way from the South Island.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Oh, he's great. Jacqueline's great, and Chloe is she's really entertaining.
I've chatted to her a couple of times. She's very impressive.
And the new generation of farmers coming through.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
She's brilliant. And then in the trade site and the
trade side of things, you know, we've got just under
fifty exhibitors again and it's all all quality. You can
if you want animal health, if you want fencing, doesn't
matter whether you want posting, bat and fencing or you
don't want fences at all, you want to do it
off your phone. It's all here, along with a heap
of other stuff, with a bit of a push on
the health thing this year with all the groups such
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as Melano, New Zealand and hearing people and all sorts
of stuff like that. So here a really is something
for everyone here at this event.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
So David Carter, who we kicked off the show with
on Banks Peninsula, the worst flooding he can remember in
his farming lifetime on the peninsula, which is over forty years,
so he said he's never known. Also better times for
sheep and beef farmers. What about you?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, gosh, Shamie, what a time to be farming. You know,
we've on the back of the four pretty average years
we've had to come into this season with a ton
of grass, plenty of stock, and outstanding prices. It's a
very pleasurable time to be farming at the moment. It
gives us, you know, should give you a little bit
of confidence to get out of the market and either
of Tyson died Ors start to do some SMR and
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more expansion.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, well, a lot a lot of catch up spending
to happen around the country. Dave Martin, good luck for
your East Coast Farming Expo tomorrow. Will catch Wiggy Craig
Wiggins there tomorrow. That almost wraps the show for today. Yeah, okay,
So the Golden Shares tickets. We've got a couple of
double passes to give away for the Saturday daytime event
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and we'll announce the winners on tomorrow's show. So text
Golden and your name and address so we can post
them off to you to five double nine. And later
in the week we've got evening passes to give away.
They are like EN's teeth. Catch you tomorrow, me.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ring up fall in on my head And just like
the guy's feed are too big for his bed, London
seems to fit those ring up the fall in on
my head.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Think you fall in. Good afternoon, New Zealand, And it's
not a good afternoon in a lot of places. This
is the country. I'm Jamie McKay. Yet lots of rain
drops falling on lots of heads right around the country.
The storm has moved south from the North Island. It
is now pummeling Canterbury and heading down south to where
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I'm domiciled, Dunedin Banks Peninsula particularly hardly or particularly hard
that I thought, what farmers do I know on Bank's Peninsula?
I knows. David Carter, former Minister of Agriculture, former Speaker
of the House these days, farming on Bank's Peninsula has
been for a long long time. David put this rainfall
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event in some sort of historic perspective for me. Good afternoon,
Good acton, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, we've been here for just over forty years and
we've never seen anotherent like this in excess or. We've
measured two hundred and fifty mills, but at one stage
their own cage overflowd overnight, so neighbors are reporting up
to three hundred. The interesting thing is it didn't start
to sort of help us. Four called to five last night.
So it's been an absolute weather bomb.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, huge rainfall numbers and you basically cut off banks, peninsula.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Parts of a lot of the road to cut off.
We personally were cut off. We've got a huge tree
that's come down over our drive. We can't get out.
Got a diger organized to come and tomorrow and we'll
try and clear that mess. My daughter lives further down
the drive. She's been able to get out to the
other farmland we own and check stock. So we're flooded,
but we haven't lost anything of lost water supply and
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that sort of thing to the house because we're Pipelines
across the creek have just gone. We've never seen creeks
as raging as they are this done.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And what about landslips on your hells. You won't have
had a chance to get out and have a look.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I've had a bit of a look, yes, definitely got
some of those.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, okay, I've just got to push notification through. A
state of emergency has been declared and banks peninsula. So yeah,
it is pretty bad, David Carter.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's bad. But I've got to say in the last
hour or so the rains EA staff, the flooding that
we're experiencing. We're at Teddington, which is between Governor's Ban
Diamond Harbor. The water levels are going down, but that
might be different open places like Little River for example.
So but declared a state of emergency, it doesn't supply me.
As I said at the start of this, this is
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the worst or the biggest rainfall I've ever seen in
forty years plus on the peninsula.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And your sheep and beef farming on the peninsula. But
what about the poor buggers and I use that word respectfully,
who are arable farmers on the Canterbury Plains. They just
can't catch a break.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They're having the worst they're having a horror years. The
only way you could describe it to these guys. So
if you're in red meat, your sheep and beef on
benks man. So frankly, I've been skouting to everybody until
today that this is the best season we've seen. We're
still green, we're normally brown and worrying about drought at
the stumpy year, but mid Canterbury JASKI it is getting hammered.
I feel for those copping guys. The prices there aren't
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is buoyant as we find in the in the dairy
sector or the red meat sector. Not only have they've
got the prices against them, and now I've got weather
where in many cases harvest will be written off completely.
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, absolutely, it's tough. Have you known sheep and beef
farming to be better? Even wool, even strong's bouncing back up?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, I don't think I have. I could say it's
I've ever had as much confidence I've got. Now. What
I like is the outlook still looks pretty promising for
a few years. I'm not saying it's going to be
good forever, but it's an international supply and demand story.
In my mind and right around the world, sheep farming
hasn't been profitable. People respond with rational economic decisions and
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move into other enterprises. That means the world's supply is
greatly diminished, and we're seeing a resurgence of interest in
our red meat. Long may it last?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, it's a last man's standing scenario. If you hang
in there for long enough, you'll be rewarded.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And deservedly so. And now what we've got to do
is make sure the government get the numbers to get
the free trade agreement through with India, and that's another
boost to the sheep.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well I've got I was going to ask you about that,
because it'd be fair to say you and Winston have
clashed swords on numerous occasions in the past. What do
you make of as posturing around the retrade agreement?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's all around votes at the next dilection. What he's
doing is found a point of difference. It's got no
logic whatsoever. And of any shit farm or anywhere in
New Zealand thinks they all out in New Zealand flers
that have to have rocks in their head. But frankly,
he's all about positioning himself for the next election and
as soon as the numbers are finally counted, if he's
in a strong position, he'll use that strength to his advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He would never go with labor again, though, would he.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I wouldn't trust that at all. It'll be a matter
of what's the best deal for Winston Peters personally.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh hard, harsh words. Maybe what we know him? Well, yes,
I know you do? I know you well. He's very litigious.
Is that the word?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, indeed you as you've found out. Anyhow, well we'll
watch Winston with a keen eye. And the other one
that I do catch up with you and you've done
a great job, you and your team around the christ
Church or the Canterbury A and P Show, which was
under threat of collapsing completely. You've renovated that. It's had
a renaissance. This last year was second year back. It
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was much better than the year before, and this year
promises to be even better.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
We're working on that already. The board's working very very
constructively with the large General Committee, which is effectively the
volunteers that make the show work. We're going to make
a few changes. We probably won't go with a raw
show status this year because that eliminates the opportunity for
us to actually get a naming right sponsor, which is
something we're working on now. What I'm determined to do
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is make sure that that Canterbury AMP gets back to
a financially sound position, so it's there for the future.
And while last year we made a reasonable profit, if
you get bad weather on any of those show days,
you're at risk. It's a risky business that we're in.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're going to be chatting very shortly to Andy Borland.
I'm sure you know Andy, Andy Well yep, the chief
executive of Scales. Of course we're running. Did you go
to Lincoln?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Indeed, okay, well you should. You should be going down
to the Wanaker show because we're having a Lincoln fundraising
dinner there. We're going to talk to Andy about that.
I'll keep the power to dry on that one. But
is Wanaka now has it now surpassed christ Church is
the biggest AMP show now?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I don't think it has. I think we put that
to bed last year with a very successful show. Wannacker
is a great show. No criticis or Wanaka and it's
been well organized by a man called Keith Kepper who's
done a fantastic job. He's also giving us advice at Canterbury.
We've got to make sure that Canterbury AMP becomes the
premiere show not only in New Zealand but in Australasia.
And that's the intention, and I won't be able to
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make the Wannaker Show this year because I'll be too
busy mandering fences and floodgates because of the rain.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Jamie Well, our thoughts are with you and all the
other Banks Peninsula farmers and all the arable farmers on
the Canterbury Plains. They are tough times. Indeed, Mother Nature
she's a cruel mistress. David Carter, Sir David Carter.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It's the challenges of farming. We enjoy it and that's
why we do it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. There
we go, David Carter. It is fifteen after twelve. You
may know that also as quart of aass twelve up
next to you, Andy Borland, We're going to stick with
christ Church. She's the chief executive of Scales. One of
the co organizers of that Lincoln University sports dinner. Andy Dalton,
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Gary Stead Cast one thousand's going to be there for that.
Jane Smith as an Auckland I think she's in Auckland today.
She apparently is taking time out to chat to us
at lunchtime on her self reflection break. She's on a
director's course. I wonder how that goes down with her.
Tom Young, National Livestock Manager for AFC AS David Carter said,
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farmers are enjoying record returns for red meat, but the
red meat companies or the meat companies aren't making money.
And Tom reckins the current prices are not sustainable and
has a good news farming story. Hopefully to finish the
show if I can track them down on Wairoa. That
is Dave Martin East Coast Farming Expo gets underway tomorrow.
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Plus we're going to tell you how you can win
some tickets to the Golden Shares and World Sharing Champs
coming up in Masterton in early March.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It won't be alone to have been step.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
To get me.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Andy Borland is the chief executive of Scales Corporation. Of
course huge in horticulture, logistics and Andy. These days, pet
food makes up the majority of your commodity basket. I
always thought you were sort of more horticulture than pet food.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Oh yeah, thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah no yet.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
We've diversified Dane and our own pet food ingredients business
over the last few years and it's gone very well
with the growth and pet food globally, and we've followed
that trend and doing really well in that sector as
well as our hot logistics activities.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So who would have known all those years ago when
we went to Lincoln College, as it was on those
days together, that you would make your living out of
dog Tucker.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh, well, it's pets are popular. We've got more and
more popular, you know, around the world, and it's been
a really good ride. Actually, it's a good industry to
be in.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Talk to me about horticulture, particularly apples, that's what you're
involved on. How big a deal is this Indian free
trade agreement going to be?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Oh, it's going to be very important to us. It
halves the tariff from fifty to twenty five percent, gives
us a window to access that opportunity. It's a massive market.
We already sell to it, so it's into that India market,
but it's going to be a very important, you know,
market for us going forward.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Are you a bit worried about the politicians cocking it up?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
No, No, I think they'll sort it out. They know
how important it is, so it's you know, it's not
just suiting one of the parties. I think it's going
to be a positive for the entire country. So they
should be backing it, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And scales, how my scales shar is going. Have you
cracked six bucks yet?
Speaker 6 (11:29):
They're going pretty good. Yeah, we've been in around the
six dollars lately and that's just you know, a bit
of momentum going with us, you know, on track for
a record result for the twenty twenty five year.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Now, the other reason I've got you on the show
today is for a shameless plug. As I said, we
went to Lincoln College together in the early eighties. These
days it's Lincoln University, you guys, you and are one
of your old mates from those days. Donald Howie Morrison
of course, former Alliance Group director, are kind of the
co orger organizers of this backing Lincoln University Sports supporters
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dinner in Wanaka on the eve of the Wanaka Show,
which is one of the biggest a MP shows in
the country maybe if not the biggest.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Now, yeah, no, it's a big event and look there's
a lot go to it. So we the Lincoln lads
if you like, from the south and in the target
there's Alistair Woods involved and a few others down there.
They sort of said, well, why don't we get an
event going to keep the momentum going because we had
a reunion in May last year and it went really
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well up here in christ Church, and so that the
plan is to just keep a bit of momentum going,
tap into that huge loyalty and remembering of their times
at Lincoln to get these get along to a great reunion.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
We'll have good speakers.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
We're actually lucky, very lucky to have Alan Dippy's Tractor
Museum as a venue. But Andy Dalton's coming down to speak,
a former All Black and a Lincoln alumni, and Gary
and Rachel Stead are obviously very connected in sport through
cricket and netboss that speaking, and we'll have a couple
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of surprise characters that you'll interview off the bench.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Jamie looking forward to that. You've called me as an MC.
I'm not sure I want to reflect on all my
Lincoln days. They were a bit rough around the edges,
to be perfectly honest, Andy Borland. But Andy Dalton when
he was at Lincoln, I don't think he even made
the first fifteen and he went on to rugby greatness.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, well it just shows you, you know a bit
of a maybe a late bloomer, but that is I
think true. Just he must must have been a good
guy in there keeping him out. But that rugby Lincoln's
been you know, there's been some great players, but you
know the beauty of the institution that's it's available for
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all comers, and we really want to promote all of
sport Jamie. You know, the kids go to university these
days and we just want them to have the greatest
the education but also the opportunity to do whatever sport
they want. And that's certainly a know what we're trying
to target here by the fundraising.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, it's happening on Thursday the twelfth, the March, six
pm for pre dinner drinks followed by dinner and speakers.
Andy Dalton, Gary Stead of course former Black Caps coach's
wife Rachel, who is huge in a netball at Lincoln University.
And as you said, being held in the vintage tractor
garage of Alan Dippy, who's qualified with the bad com
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He was just after us in nineteen eighty five. Those
Dippies are interesting characters, very entrepreneurial and successful people.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, very good and it's a great privilege for
us to access that venue. And yeah, look there's Lincoln.
You know, alumni all over the country doing really well
and it's a credit to the institution and I just think, yeah,
we're trying to get as many of them long to
this event to put a bit of money back into
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the university by way of supporting the sports activities there.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, the website is or the address, the link is
Alumni link all one word dot Lincoln, dot AC dot
nz Ford slash Wonica Dinner. Just google Lincoln Wonica Dinner.
It will get you there and every cent being raised
will go to supporting Lincoln University sport. Hey, Andy, I
was going to call you Andy Dalton. I'll call you
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Andy balland you were a great rugby player as well.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Absolutely, I keep up the.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Good work at Scales and get those shares up to
seven bucks.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, well that's the plan. We're on track.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well you stay on track, Andy, There you go. So
if you're in that neck of the woods, you're in
town for the Wanica a MP show. David Carter did
tell us that christ Church is or Canterbury still the
biggest AMP show. It is being held on Thursday, the
twelfth of March at Alan Dippey's Vintage tractor Garrett, which
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they tell me is amazing in itself. Andy Dalton, Gary Stead,
Rachel's Dead, and a couple of surprises off the bench.
It's going to be a great night. Raise some money
for your old college slash university. Up next. Jane's she's
former Lincoln College as well. I think Jane Smith, or
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was she Massy I don't know, but she's neither in
christ Church or PALMEI today. I think she's in Auckland
and she's having a self reflection break on a director's course,
one of life's great cynics. I wonder how she goes
on that one. Rural News and Sports News Tom Young
from AFCO, Dave Martin on the East Coast Farming Expo
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getting underway and when Michelle wanders in here, we're going
to tell you how you can win a double pass.
Let me see what I've got. I've got a double
pass for the Saturday daytime event. Okay, like Hen's Teeth
later in the week. We've got a double pass to
the Saturday evening championship event. And you literally cannot get
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a ticket for that anymore. So it's going to be fantastic.
We'll tell you about that before the end of the
hour as well on my head. She is a North
Otago farmer, a former winner of the Balanced Farm Environment Awards.
(17:32):
In these days a professional director, but to be qualified
for the latter she needs to go on a director's course.
Her name is Jane Smith. Jane, we catch you this
lunch break on a self reflection break. What have you
self reflected on?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Good a Jamie, Well, I've got a lot of self
reflection to do, apparently, because one, I'm not a fan
of course courses, especially those that get you in touch
with your faults, of which I have many and varied.
I think I'd rather be crutched lands today. But I
guess one point that has been glary obvious to me
today is you know, I could have been gluten intolerant
(18:07):
or let's host intolerant, but I'm actually relatively people intolerant,
particularly those that you meet that they tell you what
their job description or what their job title is, and
you think, actually, what do you do all day? And
so I've got a little bit a little bit more
reflective around that, and a bit more apparently respective to
people that aren't necessarily in the productive parts of our
(18:30):
sector or our economy.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Jamie and you're talking about activists and diversity experts. It's
all about the vibe. Jane.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
It's really interesting, Jamie. I I'm in closely following the
Public Service Amendment Bill of twenty five and twenty six.
So this is of course touted to repair or replace
the Public Service Act of twenty twenty and essentially, as
your listeners will no doubt, no, it's talking about actually
hiring people on their merits, Jamie. Imagine that on a
(19:01):
merit rather than their diversity, so that twenty twenty at
ask them to have a diversity higher content in terms
of that reflected society. And so potentially there's going to
be changing changing the public sector of what she has
been some changes made already. And you know, in a
country like New Zealand, it has woeful productivity stats. I think,
(19:24):
what was it, ninety three to twenty thirteen, we were
one point four percent, which isn't great, but the last
ten years we've been point two percent productivity. And you know,
again the unionist activists and the socialists of the country
seem to think we can tax our way into prosperity,
which we can't, and we need to increase our productivity
Jamie and I guess descend the board in those values
(19:45):
based productivity measures. And that is why Jamie she's still
flying around New Zealand or the world on her broomstick
and can't actually land back in New Zealand because our
economy is in dire straits.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Because well, I'm thinking of petitioning in z me who
I contract myself to, and thinking that they should kind
of do like a diversity because let's face at, pale, stale,
middle aged male boomers like myself and now very much
a minority, and I'm thinking I perhaps deserve some special
extra and you'll leave them. And if I rung A
Tamareki can do it, why can't then send me.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
I'm sure you're up in some sort of long service
leave or something, joey, But yes, you're right. You are
quickly becoming a minority and you will be in demand.
And I think the other interesting thing about this is
they're going to require public service executives to reapply for
their job on a certain term, be at three years,
five years, et cetera. So I thought I'd take that
bet to the farm later in the week and asked
(20:38):
Blair to apply for his job. But I actually I've
just been rolling them over on a ninety day trial
period for the last few years, which has worked quite well.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Let's just quickly finish because I'm running out of time.
You're also up in arms. You're up in arms about
everything you need to learn to relax during your self
reflection break, Chane. But you're quite rightly up in arms
about two hundred and fifty rural school bus runs being
cut or they're being examined. That's the last thing rural
in New Zealand I would have thought needed an Jamie.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
And I think that the term has been reviewed, which
we always know. O review is generally a cut in
the public sector.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So we're so.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
I guess a lot of these bus contracts have been
with local bus companies, and a lot of them have
been amalgamated into bigger companies, and then obviously all of
the margins are being pressed. And so there's fifty I
think about fifty five thousands rural kids on bus routes
at the moment, and this has huge implications in terms
of you know, a lot of these families are driving
a long way just to get to the school bus
(21:38):
on the existing route, and if these are changing and
all being cut. Massive implications in terms of being able
to encourage young families to come and work on farms
and live in communities if there is no bus system
and or there is a long way distance to get
to those buses. Massive line effects for numbers at schools
and encouraging teachers and young families into those is Jamie. So,
(22:01):
I mean the nets say they want eighty to nine
percent score attendance, that these type of things are really
pushing against that. And again quite often the minority. Here
we go, rural people get forgotten about, Jamie, and you
know again we've got to keep that economy running and
those community service Jamie.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Jane Smith, I know your self. Reflection break is coming
to an end. Just remember be a bit more tolerant
of people, including activists and diversity experts.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Okay, thanks Shemy.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
That's my work on for the day.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
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(23:12):
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back to the country. Just before we get Michelle with
the latest and Rural News. Okay, we've got some Golden
(23:34):
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to do is text us on five double oh nine
to win. Just text the word golden. You need golden,
that's the key word, and your name to five double
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might give a couple away actually to the Saturday daytime event.
I think you can still buy tickets for the Saturday
daytime session because there's going to be five hundred competitors
from twenty eight countries competing to be crowned the Supreme
Champion of Golden Shares in conjunction with the World Championships.
(24:16):
I'll find out if there's any tickets left for the
Saturday evening Championship event the War Memorial Hall and master
them will they'll lift the roof, believe you me. So
we'll find out if there's any tickets left for that,
and we've got a couple of double passes to give
away to that as well before the end of the
week here. So what you need to do is text
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you want to go along to the Golden Shares on
the final day, that is Saturday, the seventh of March.
Here's Michelle with the latest and rural news.
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Speaker 9 (25:00):
And once again it's all about the weather. This time.
Canterbury is being hit quite hard here in Dunedin actually
it's pretty wet as well, and I heard last night
they were like getting sand bags and things like that
together as well. So just prepare yourselves. Streets in christ
Stretch of flooded this morning and the region is bracing
itself more heavy rain throughout the day and orange heavy
Rain warning is in place for Banks Peninsula till six
(25:21):
pm today with sixty million meters to eighty million meters
of rain on top of what already has fallen that
is going to be expected and as a moderate chance
of this being upgraded to a red warning. The Dunedin
City Council is offering sand bags as I mentioned before,
as we are being hit by heavy rain as well,
and Met Service has a heavy rain watch in place
for Dunedin until seven pm two nights. So just keep
(25:42):
an eye on those warnings and all that forecast stuff
because you know, stay safe up there, guys.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
We don't want anyone had to higher ground if in doubt.
And they have declared a state of emergency on Banks Peninsula,
has sport.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Spores on the country with a fco business. Well done.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Interesting story this one, because I thought this guy would
have been in the hunt this year under a new coach.
All Blacks Loose forward Dalton Pope Lee is outlining his
reasons for what he's calling one of the hardest decisions
of his life. The twenty eight year old will leave
the Blues at the end of the Super Rugby season
to take up a three year contract with French Top
fourteen team Carstra Olympique Populi. He says he's made some
(26:25):
amazing memories in his decade with the Blues, but it
was time to re evaluate after he and his partner
recently welcomed a baby daughter. And in sadder news, former
kiwis wing A NRL premiership winner Matt Utai is said
to be fighting for his life after a shooting in Sydney.
Police say an suv drove past the home and fired
(26:47):
shots from the vehicle. Not good at all. Up next,
Tom Young at a Hawk's Bay where the storm has
passed through and farmers are enjoying record returns for red meat.
But apparently, according to Tom anyhow, the meat companies aren't
making any money. So are the current prices sustainable? We'll
(27:08):
ask them and we're going to go up the road
to finish the show to Waira and Dave Martin, one
of the guys behind the East Coast Farming Expo getting
underway in that fine town tomorrow. He is f co's
National Livestock Manager. His name is Tom Yang. We're going
to talk about red meat. It's very expensive at the moment,
(27:29):
very good returns for farmers, but can it last before
we do? Though time you're based out of Hawk's Bay.
How's the weather. I understand you guys have fared a
bit better than other places in the North Island and
other places in the South Island as the storm moves south.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Yeah, well, hi Jamie, Yeah no, we actually probably came
through the weather event in a pretty good state. So
hit my place in what I had thirty or forty
miles of rain and a little bit of win. But
we haven't had anywhere near the problems are the regions
have had anything to complain about it all.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Really, all this rain in the North Island means a
hell of a lot of grass and that has seen
the store stock market go nuts, for want of a better.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Word, it sure has, yep, and I think well, speaking
from perspective over here, I mean we've got more grass
and I've probably seen in three years. But we're seeing
a lot of speculation around the value of I guess
the future venues of our fat stock, and so people
are chasing store stock pretty hard and paying a lot
(28:32):
of money for it. I can say it is likely
that there are schedule drops coming. So we were sitting now,
we're not making any money, and we've had the New
Zealand dollar against us for quite some weeks. Markets overseas
are starting to soften and we need to have suddenly
(28:52):
going into the bank now to maintain the factories and
also spend money on CAPIC. So this is a bit
of an industry wide thing, not just an f CO thing,
So it's likely schedules will start to decline.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
At the moment, lamb is nearly what eleven dollars a kilo.
It's never been there before. Record prices. Beef is over
nine dollars a kilogram. We look at those numbers from
the Meat and Industry Association for twenty twenty five, a
red meat worth eleven point seven billion, a sheep meat
four point seven billion, up thirty one percent in value,
(29:26):
beef worth five billion to our economy up fifteen percent
in value despite decreases in volume. Are these levels sustainable.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Well, based on what I'm seeing today, probably not not
in the short term. I think we've probably got a
bit of a perfect storm, and we've been through a
perfect storm where we've had Obviously, the schedules have chased
themselves up. The markets have gone pretty well. But now
where we're sort of sitting, we were sitting mainly because
of the shortage of stock. Everyone's with grass. But I think,
(30:00):
you know, in the next probably a month or two months,
we've certainly got to see some sort of decline on venues.
But hey, look if you had if you took a
dollar out of a lamb, a dollar aquila and you
came back to ten, I don't think too many people
would be complaining about that in March April, would they?
And if you took a dollar achillo out of beef
and you came back to eight dollars early eight, So
it's it's still spectacular money.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You're not trying to talk down the market, are you?
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Well, I sort of am, because I think it needs
to get a bit more real and I think it's
a little bit overcocked at the moment, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So Tom Young Hod of hawks By, you're busy talking
down the market, you obviously haven't got in the ear
of Mark Warren, who's talking about a fifteen hundred dollars lamb.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yeah, that's that's a good price for lambers. But I mean,
I thought I thought we'd done pretty well when we're
paying a farm around there tend on a ninety mark.
But obviously Mark Warren's got the rest speeder to sell
it for a little bit more. So we won't talk
about it anymore, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What about the age old problem for the meat and
street as you fight for stock a procurement war, there'll
be one of those coming up at the end of
the season, as surely as night follow's day.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Well, there's already one now. I don't think there's any
such thing as any week that goes by that where
there isn't procurement tension. So the days of having spear
of stock in the summer, and you know, and people
could probably lean on the schedule a bit and take
money out of it pretty much over. So when we
start taking money out of schedules now we're doing it
for the reasons that there is I guess little margin
(31:30):
left to work on. And so the old days we
had thousands of spare lambs or thousands of spare countle
we just don't see it anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Did you celebrate National Lamb Day on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Actually, sure, well you should have.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You've probably got access to a lamb rack reasonably cheaply,
I would imagine, Tom, come on.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I think I did have a piece of rebel ei
of that count I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's not on National Lamb Day. Look, I must say
I went to my local countdown because I've been mouthing
off about National Lamb Day all last week. I thought
I better walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
And I was able to buy a lovely lamb leg
roast for nineteen dollars ninety nine akilo, and the farmers
getting eleven bucks Akilo. That's great, that's great buying.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, it is good buying. It is good buying.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
It was only a year, it was only a month
or two back. They were probably selling those leagues for
eighties ninety dollars from what I recall.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think they still are in some places. But good
on countdown a shameless plug. The supermarkets get plenty of
grief for specialing lamb on National Lamb Day. Okay, Tom,
We'll await with baited breath to see whether you can
talk the market down and make some money.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yes, thanks Jamie.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Some talk.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Read fun wrapping the country. We're heading up the road
a bit from Hawk's Bay to Oiroa. There we find
Dave Martin, one of the guys behind the East Coast
Farming Expo. And just remember if you want to go
to the Golden Shears Saturday after noon the daytime event
texts Golden and your name and your address to five
(33:06):
double O nine. We'll give away a couple of double
passes tomorrow. Dave Martin, when you get tidied up with
the East Coast Farming Expo, which is for sheep and
beef farmers on the East Coast, will you be heading
down to the Golden Shares.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I think it'll be done in dusted by the time
we finished tidying up. Jamie, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, there's some It's going to be a great event
with the World Champs on a bit of a swan song.
I think for the likes of certainly for Roland Smith,
you would think anyhow, okay, your show gets under way tomorrow.
I think we're catching up with Craig Wiggy Wiggins. Lean
on a gate, talk to a mate who's going to
be there tomorrow. What have you got to entice the
punters along? And has the weather played ball for.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
You in terms of the weather, Jamie, we've been very lucky.
We we only had all one hundred and twenty five meals,
which is just a share for us, and so no
damage and no flooding. So we're bloody lucky compared to
the last couple of years ago. And really thinking of
all our brother and farming brethren down in the manor
or two in Benks Peninsula and the like. Its know
(34:05):
how that goes. It's pretty tough time.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, well you guys got completely whacked, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It was three years ago, a cyclone cabral It doesn't
seem like that long ago, but it put paid to
the East Coast farming event. So who's coming along? As
I said, what's there to entice the punters?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Oh? Great seminar series as per usual Jamie Glocks of
Doctor Jack and Rowers, and we got Chloe Butcher Harries,
who's quite prominent on the social media. She's also as
a Young Farmer of the Year. She's coming along to speak.
Plus we had a few panel discussions with catchment groups
and whatnot, which is pretty exciting. And Peter Alexander all
(34:43):
the way from the South Island.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Oh, he's great. Jacqueline's great, and Chloe is she's really entertaining.
I've chatted to her a couple of times. She's very impressive.
And the new generation of farmers coming through.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
She's brilliant. And then in the trade site and the
trade side of things, you know, we've got just under
fifty exhibitors again and it's all all quality. You can
if you want animal health, if you want fencing, doesn't
matter whether you want posting, bat and fencing or you
don't want fences at all, you want to do it
off your phone. It's all here, along with a heap
of other stuff, with a bit of a push on
the health thing this year with all the groups such
(35:17):
as Melano, New Zealand and hearing people and all sorts
of stuff like that. So here a really is something
for everyone here at this event.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
So David Carter, who we kicked off the show with
on Banks Peninsula, the worst flooding he can remember in
his farming lifetime on the peninsula, which is over forty years,
so he said he's never known. Also better times for
sheep and beef farmers. What about you?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, gosh, Shamie, what a time to be farming. You know,
we've on the back of the four pretty average years
we've had to come into this season with a ton
of grass, plenty of stock, and outstanding prices. It's a
very pleasurable time to be farming at the moment. It
gives us, you know, should give you a little bit
of confidence to get out of the market and either
of Tyson died Ors start to do some SMR and
(36:03):
more expansion.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, well, a lot a lot of catch up spending
to happen around the country. Dave Martin, good luck for
your East Coast Farming Expo tomorrow. Will catch Wiggy Craig
Wiggins there tomorrow. That almost wraps the show for today. Yeah, okay,
So the Golden Shares tickets. We've got a couple of
double passes to give away for the Saturday daytime event
(36:26):
and we'll announce the winners on tomorrow's show. So text
Golden and your name and address so we can post
them off to you to five double nine. And later
in the week we've got evening passes to give away.
They are like EN's teeth. Catch you tomorrow, me.
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