July 6, 2026 • 40 mins
Hamish McKay talks to Bex Green, Scott Spooner, Nathan Guy, Shane McManaway, Chris Russell, and Pete Barnes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Two days gonna be the day that they're gonna throw
it back to you. This is the Country Hamers Mackay
in for Jamie mackay.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Great to have your company.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hope you're going all right in some of these weather
hit parts of the country.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
All our kind.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thoughts are with you those having to deal with down
on the Deep South, snow, all sorts of all sorts
of weather, just hard yards.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But keep the chin up show brought to you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
By Farmlands and Izuzu Loving I was gonna say, smashing
it in the DMX Hicks terrain of the moment, that's
just crunching around, you.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Could say in the eastern suburbs of Auckland.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Standing by to kick off the show is big screen
of course. Nil Catergory, Federated Farmers President, first generation dairy farmer,
There Clvid and there Coast to Coast athlete and great
advocate for mental health and most other things. But I
actually want to talk a little bit of fertilizer to
start with Becks and one of the greens and what
is their view of the synthetic fertilizer world.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's also Innovation Week with heard Eye, and we look
at some.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, some progressive activity in the world of drones coming
out of South Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Nathan Guy. I wonder if he's back in the neure
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The well traveled Nathan Guy joins us to look at
our ever extending trade tentacles. You might have accidentally called
trade testicles, he saiday, for which I do unreservedly apologize,
But I'm not as much in as much trouble for
saying that as as Elbow is with his whole sort
of rat and ray with Kylie mcnogue across the Tasman.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Our Ossie, corresponded Chris Russell on that and other things,
all things Australian, they're booming over there too at the moment,
and all things.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Marlborough with pgg Wrights and Pete Barnes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
A bit of land use change there is some of
the grapes sort of come to the end of their
natural life and there are other options.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And also the bull sales that have been going gang buses.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Is it just.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Demand or is it also a quality of animal. We'll
find that out from Pete Barnes coming up. But first
up Beckscreen we head to Culverdin and welcome Becks onto
the show. Now the Federated Farmers North Canterbury President, National
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Dairy Vice Chair Becks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How are things in your part.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Of the world, Juda Hamish, Yeah, I know it's pretty
west up here in North Canterbury. State of emergency's just
been declared this morning in Cocoda, so we're just going
through what that means for our farmers in the area
and just helping them with that process.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Look, you know that said old thing.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We've got this what is a nice time at the
whole farm gate in terms of returns, but old mother
Nature is always going to be there to challenge this
right and these will be difficult times for a lot
of people across the country.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Oh yeah, I think surely test us resilience like a
good old weather event and I've had not hit my
shortage of those over the last year with the windstorm
at Colvid and last year.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So no.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Obviously it's been a large amount of rainfall and we've
had some rivers burs the banks, which is similar to
the nineteen ninety three flood event, to be honest, And
so we're just helping them navigate the weather and what
they can do for the animals and people on farm.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, okay, let's get into this.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I want to get into the synthetic fertilizer band that
the Greens are proposing the Green Party. What do you
reckon if this word happen? Would be the consequences for
our production?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look, if you take away synthetic night roden, that changes
how we grow feed. You know, potentially we grow less grass,
carry fewer cows, produce less milk, or have to buy
them or supplement and every one of those options have
the cost. You'll drive up the price of food like
fresh fruit, vegetables and meat. And because when there's this
is something, the price goes up. And so that won't
(04:18):
help the cost of living crisis. You know, that will
make every New Zealand and much poorer.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, I mean, is it a sort of a kind
of a doomsday kind of thing coming from the Greens
here or is it something that could be navigated should
the worst case scenario happen.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
It feels like policy rating from an ideological starting point
rather than from an understanding of how modern farming systems
actually work. You know, the policy is completely lacking important
detail like over what time period will it be phased out?
Is it three years, thirty years, one hundred years? You
know that sort of detail matters. So yeah, I believe
(05:01):
you know, is it really a phase out use of
nier and fertilized in New Zealand or is it really
a band?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, right, we've dealt with that.
Speaker 9 (05:09):
Okay, Yeah, I'm just want to ask you your Advocate
of the Year at the Federated Farmer's Internal Awards, how does.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That work in the in the advocacy space going? And
you obviously enjoy that and what are the goals?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Look, I've certainly blown away to win that award and
I certainly didn't expect it. I feel incredibly proud of
the advocacy work that you know, not just me, but
my team has done over the past year in terms
of the policing restructure and the wind event that we
had in Colbernin. But no, I really love being an
advocate for rural people on the ground. You know, good
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advocacy starts with listening and genuinely understanding the people that
I'm representing, and so yeah, I'm really part of that.
I didn't know I wanted to become an EV but
I think I just keep seeing issues where people were
most affected, and yeah, I just want to keep going from.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
There organic advocate.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then it's just something that's sort of well, it plays
to your strengths, right, Yeah, I'm probably.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Not very good at sitting back when I think something
could be done better. You know, if farmers are frustrated
by a policy, or if a royal community has been overlooked,
or if decisions are being made without understanding the practical
reality on the ground, my instinct is to get involved.
And over time I realized their advocacy isn't just about
being the loudest voice in the room. It's about listening
and understanding the issue properly, and building relationships with the
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people who can influence change, and then being persistent enough
to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and you must you're what first generation dairy farmer there.
I mean, that's obviously an incredible learning journey and plenty
of challenges face, which all leads into to seeing what
needs to be addressed.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I guess, oh, absolutely, you know, we didn't have you know,
we're first generation husband and I we didn't have you know,
family backing us. But we've been really fortunate that our
farm owners have been willing to invest in us and
not just employ us, giving us the opportunity to buy
shares in the farm, and which has created a pathway
that we probably wouldn't have otherwise existed. But because we've
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been to that process, you know, starting from the bottom
and moving out up, I think there's you know, we've
learned a lot along the way, and our story also
highlights how difficult that jump in from our ownership has become.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, and great work in the in the Federated Farmers
in the in the membership growth as well. I understand
you've had some real movement in your part.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Of the world. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Look, obviously with the police restructure and the windstorm last year,
you know, people saw what Federated Farmers North Canterbury can do,
not just at a high level but on the ground.
And I'm just so proud to be able to bring
home the Chris Allen Memorial Trophy to Canterbury, where Chris
was such a strong advocate in the Canterbury and yes,
(08:02):
just love that that that award has come back to
a Cannabury province and especially North Canterbury.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yep, yeah a great a great name associated with that
trophy and yeah top marks to you for all the
work that is happening in your area and great to
chat begs, thank you very much for joining us. That's
Beckscreen Federated Farmers, North Canterbury President, National Dairy Vice Chair.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
They're so much happening with the weather and a lot
happening in.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Her world of advocacy and also you know day to
day running the farm and keeping everything ticking over.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This is the country Hartwich mackay.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
In for j M McKay on your Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I'm sure you've had.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It farmer, but then I know it's grew and Innovation
Week on the country where her a pro Bardner, a
Fonterra's on farm Solutions program the.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Country of course Innovation Week brought to you by heard
I Hamish mckuye in for Jamie mciche for the rest
of the week through of course Friday being Matriki but
of a holiday for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Across the country.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Why not now some of its I mean it's just
become you know, it is cool, you know You've got
a lot of drones, don't you, and in all sort
of shapes and form, but the way they're coming into
the ag space is quite remarkable and leading the way
in this is a South Canterbury drone maker, SPS Automation,
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and we're joined by their CEO, Scott Spooner.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Now can i Scott? How are you?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I'm doing great? How are you doing? Ham mush?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, very good, Thank you Scott.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
These are exciting times and you know, tell us a
bit about how this technology works, because it's going to
push into a space that's going to make a lot
of difference across the ag sector.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So drones have been use for agricultural uses but quite
some time now, but it's predominantly been focused on broad
acre spraying spran crops and providing furtain chemicals and set
aside into the sort of traditional fields plantations. But at
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SPS Automation we saw a real lack of machines that
were capable to go and solve some of our pesty,
pesty invasive plant issues like wild and pines, gorse mascella,
anything that we're really having trouble with in the countryside.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So what are you doing differently then from what we
sort of see, you know, because I was always I've
sort of been amazed by that sort of spot spraying.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And the different things that we've seen for a little while.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But what are you doing differently at SPS automation to
get in there and attack you know, the gorse and
the pampas and the likes.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
So one of the big challenges with a drones is
flight time. If you've got chemical on board, that's just wait,
You've got to fly this into a location. And most
agricultural drones are battery powered, so you're really limited by
the amount of time you can fly. Traditionally it's between
sort of five minutes and ten minutes on a single battery.
(11:20):
So Esper sort ofmation we looked at how we could
sort of solve this problem, and we came up with
the idea of creating a hybrid based multi rotor. So
instead of having a battery that provides all the power
for the aircraft, we have a small engine on board
that runs on fuel. So we use that engine as
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a generator and we generate electricity that powers a traditional
electric drone system. This allows us to extend our flight
time to an hour to two hours at a time,
making the drone capable of flying into the high country
to the hills and having the time to apply chemical
(12:05):
to individual plants and not just hard to get to places,
but over large areas and all sorts of different locations.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, because that targeting, that that sort of spot targeting
is critical, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, you don't want to put chemical everywhere. You
want to apply the chemical to the exact plant with
the amount that is needed to control that plant. We
really focus on precision chemical applications, so just the right
amount of chemical and we use a whole variety of
different systems to work out how much needs to go
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on and how we want it, you know, to be
applied to the plant. It can be very very effective
for control of things like wilding with not actually using
as much chemical as you think, as long as you
get it on in the right way.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, okay, And so what you know, I mean, obviously
it's a big project now, and there's plenty of all
of those scooge of the country that we need to
deal to. But what about sort of future adaptations. What's
the thinking futuristically was?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So currently we have our ac sixteen aircraft on the market.
That's a spot spraying machine. It's perfect for wilding pines.
It's very efficient at spraying individual trees. Where we're heading
is not just a single aircraft with an operator, but
swarm technology with multiple aircraft operating over a large area
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able to control fairly big infestations. Combined with this, we're
actually looking at removing the pilot from the field. So
future technology will be around teleoperation where the machines are
in the field with a docking station and they're actually
controlled from a command center where the pilots are not.
(13:54):
Really it's not top gun these days. It's more monitoring
that the operation is consistent with what you're expecting and
then having a pilot intervene if something is not right.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
These are exciting times and great to hear the developments
that are going on there.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Scott, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, not a problem, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That is CEO Scott Spour of SPS Automation down there
in South Canaday making some incredible progress and inroads in
the in the world of the of the drone, the
hybrid road of motor motor Roda, the small engine fires up,
the fires up, the electricity.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Fantastic stuff. This is the Country and it is Innovation Week,
brought to you by herd Eye. Yes, it is innovation Week.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We're going to head to the Mighty Newer next well
if he is in the Newer, because you know, if
you follow social media, Nathan Guy has been to some
exceptional places in the last few months. And not not
that the Newer, not the Mighty HoTT Fin isn't an
exceptional place.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a great part of the world.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But we're going to talk to Nathan obviously about the
situation as we spread our trade tentacles.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That'll be good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I'll probably talk a bit of footy as well, Dave
Rennie because he does like his rugby, does Nathan.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
That's come up next here on the Country.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Twelve to twenty six of the Country, Hams McKay and for.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Jamie McKay, I think we're going to the Newer right now,
of course.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well, yeah, we've got him, we have got him. We
are going to our man, Nathan Guy. Nathan, how are
you get a very well Hamish?
Speaker 11 (15:49):
How are you getting on right?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, felling the big boots right. You've been you've been
have you had much time? Do you recognize much of
the mighty Newer given? You know, any time I go,
I see you at some like it's almost you're at
some place in Europe that that then leads to a great.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Meal like Michelin meal that night. You know you've been
you've been traveling the fair But yeah I have.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
I did a big trip eu UK. Back on the
farm now loving it. A couple of early calves on
the ground. So exciting times ahead, busy time for all
ustairy farmers. And at the moment we've got a good
grass cover, reasonable weather. We're missing this southerly storm seems
to be hammering up east coast, not up through the
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Newer so we're lucky for once.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, we're probably going to head the Shane rick Manoay
shortly who's got a property down in that kai Kura
region as well, and catch up because apparently things are
getting pretty dire there. But okay, so let's talk about
this the the trade plan going forward. I mean countries
like Bangladesh and Nigeria. It's kind of like it feels
like a whole new Land, which doesn't it, But you know,
(17:02):
Todd McClay very pumped up about this in the recent
announcement that we've got an opportunity and we need to
take it.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
It welcome news for exporters, farmers and processes and the
like exciting times. I think it's great that they've come
out with a plan because what it will do is
it will crystallize the minds of senior officials in Wellington,
whether that's Foreign affairs, primary industries or Trade and enterprise.
They'll all need to come together and work on this
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constructive look at opportunities going forward. Because seven new economies,
they are massive. You talk about Bangladesh and Nigeria, well,
Bangladesh is a very big dairy market, mainly powders. I
think it's about four hundred and fifty million of export
returns in the last twelve months or so, so that's exciting.
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Nigeria similar not as big, but big dairy opportunity. And
then if we look across to South America where it
was a few months ago with Winston Peters, Brazil, Argentina
and Uruguay.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
We're not going to outcompete them with red meat or
in fact with dairy, but what we have got an
opportunity to do is agri tech and services, education, people
to people, movements.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
New air lights going in from Auckland now Buenas are
so exciting times ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, okay, it's good.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What is the potential though, say, you know, you talk
about four hundred and fifty million into Bangladesh, the Nigerias
of this world.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What's the scope where could we land? Well?
Speaker 11 (18:40):
The scope is massive. I guess if we step back
for a moment, Hamish and think about it, just removing
some of the paperless sort of truck barriers, that's going
to be important, moving into digital customs, those sort of things.
Working hard with industry and government on non tariff barriers opportunities.
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There costs the red meat sector about one point five
billion dollars a year. There is about threefold on that.
Horticulture also significant, So there's just a couple of areas
that can help. And then if you think about export opportunities,
they are significant. So size and scope seven hundred million people,
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five trillion US in terms of all the combined GDP,
these numbers are eye watering. Our exports at the moment
that these seven economies is only one point eight billion.
When I say only, it's still sizable but significant upside.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, fantastic who takes the most credit for this?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So I know there's been a sort of not that
does it really matter at the end of the day.
I mean, I would have thought the current Trade Minister
can put his hand out and say a job well done.
Speaker 11 (19:57):
I'll be meeting Modi with other leaders over the weekend
in Auckland. That's a significant event, having Prime Minister of
India down first time we've had a visit of this
scale for forty years and that's because of Todd McClay
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and the Prime Minister have done some serious heavy lifting
to get this FDA across the line in three years,
which is record timing. And I was involved in negotiations
when I was a minister and there be a lot
of pleasantries but just discussions would stall. So I give
a lot of credit and kudos to the coalition government
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and indeed National for getting off their chaffs, getting Minister
McLay and a plane trade McLay, as is commonly known,
doing a good work for the government. And ultimately these
trade winds flow through into local economies, they flow right
through into households, so they are this is not just
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about the primary sector. This money actually flows right into
every household in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic before you go.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's still one of the great regrets every time I
talk to Richard Low that we never got to name
your dairy ship.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I just want to let you know that that still
hurts all these years later. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
You can come and put an apron and you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, well back in Awkland, but these days but yeah,
but that's right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You're right. Yeah, you're right. I do I do. You
know I will take up that offer. Don't worry about that.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Thank you, Nathan, Nathan guy, meet industry and horror. I
know a dairy farm in New Zealand, Special Trade Envoy.
Good to have Nathan on the show. Roddy, We're going
to catch up with this with a situation. You are
listening to the country, the country, of.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Course, we were standing by. We're going to get news
and sport. Well we're going to go.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We need to check out what's happening. But the weather situation,
as we heard from beck'screen earlier, from down the Covert
and region, and we're hearing around the country down to
the Money at Toto and up the East coast.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Of the South Island and into the southern wider Rappa.
Great friend of.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The show, Shane mcmanaway joins us now and Shane is
a and a Sunday of a property in the Kaikura region. Shane,
thanks for joining us. Things getting pretty dire by all
accounts there.
Speaker 13 (22:34):
Good afternoon, Hamish, they certainly are. We've just sort of
on edge here in the South Warrerappera actually with the
rain event that we had last week and then you
know it was it was a complete another mess and
we're worried about what's happening here now. Good steady rain
falling here since about sort of early morning and not
leading up at all. But down on the dairy farm
in Kaikura, it's unfolding there. It's horrendous what's happening there.
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Adam my son sends some photos and they see the
dairy farms turned itself into a river. So a very
serious situation unfolding there.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And that's that would appear to be quite widespread right well.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Where the dairy farmers and kai Kurra. Adam's place is
just on the northern side of Kaikura township, in fact,
right on the main road there and quite a lot
of the rivers sort of make their way down down
to the beat down to the sea from there. But
I think it's reasonably widespread round in the lower Lyne
Kaikura Town area. But I'm only really picking that up
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secondhand from Adam. He was busy evacuating the kids out
of the house because I think the water was about
to go through, and I haven't been able to get
back in contact with him.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, well that says something, doesn't it, Shane, And you know,
look and ow old mate Lowie.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I even tried.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He was due to come on the radio, which he loves,
but he's been sort of sort of bogged down by
weather as well. So it's pretty widespread there if you
had a chance to have a look at some of
the damage across the South Wider Rappera. I mean it
wasn't until midweek when we started seeing the shots on
the tally that we realized how bad that was.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
No, I've been heavily immersed in that topic down there.
I was asked if I would share a meeting of
about thirty odd farmers and some of the officials down
here from the Wellington Regional Council and South Rapa District Council.
So last Friday we did it. We've did an inspection
and we also held meetings here and it's taken up
quite a lot of time to look for how we're
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going to sort of advance from where we are there.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
At the moment.
Speaker 13 (24:27):
It needs some short term fixes, but it also needs
some long term thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
They're Hamish, Yep, thank you very much for giving us
your time. Shane mcmanaway out of the wider rapper Son
Adam Farming and kai Kura there and he hasn't been
able to get a hold of Adam which just you
know farm has turned into a river. So yeah, there's
a lot a lot happening around the country in terms.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Of the weather, so we'll keep a closer eye on that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
We'll stand by now though. Coming up news and sport
here on the country.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
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Speaker 14 (25:07):
Yeah, thanks Hamish. Weather conditions looking to ramp up around
the country. He might try and catch up with Shane's
sun in CoA Coda tomorrow if we can get reception
through that area. But stay safe out there if you're
in any of those areas getting hard hit today and
keep an eye on those weather warnings. But tomorrow Federated
Farmers will be hosting a public meeting for Ykatto Farmers
(25:28):
with AG Minister Todd McLay and ram Rama Reform Minister
Chris Bishop. They're discussing the wy Cattle Plan change once
a PC one. It's a big deal, could have huge
costs in compliance requirements for farming family. So if you're
around the area, head down and support the event. You'll
be running from eleven thirty am into one at Mystery
Creek Events Center. And now his sport.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Sport on the Country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes, sir, the country sport.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Belgium went up early against United States of a miracle
team Trump give fee for another call, Donald, I don't
know it's helping at the moment. Belgium went up after
nine minutes. US equalized the thirty.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
One minute mark and then another goal.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So it's two to one to Belgium over the United
States of America at the FIFA World Cup road place
in the top eight and that is our sport on
the country. Willis is the country and always an enjoyable
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time of the week, and just I think a day
earlier this week because he's off on the well Australia's
version of the I think it's the Indian Pacific or
the Orange Express before a pot of a holiday. So
we're getting him today at Ossie. Correspondent Chris Russell gaddo, Chris,
how are you.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Good day, amis share I'm right and early and looking
forward to heading over across the desert in the train. Admira.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, that'll be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Ronnie's taking on those Korean beef sales have doubled and
taking up the slack from China.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Yes, well, we talked about the fact that this fifty
five percent tariff's now been imposed on us, and everyone
was getting nervous, especially when the you know, the South
American quotas start getting used up and all that meat
starts getting dumped on the American market. But we shipped
one hundred and forty six thousand tons across in June,
(27:29):
which is an amazing amount of beef to still be
shipping slightly below what we send in May, but of
course that was everyone trying to finish off the quota.
But it's still right up there amongst the strongest months
we've ever shipped, about nine percent above June last year
and about fifty percent above the five year average. Now,
the interesting thing is a lot of this slack has
(27:51):
been taken up in Korea. The United States is still
our biggest customer. They took about fifty thousand tons from
US in June. We're about thirty percent of our total exports.
But if you look at Korea, Korea went from seventeen
thousand tons this time last year to thirty two thousand
tons this year, so that's about eighteen percent of the total,
(28:15):
So that's really climbing. Japan is still very strong their
number three. So we don't seem to be having any
difficulty in getting rid of our rid of our beef Hamish.
And I see that Martin price is up again, nine
dollars a kilo for Martin. My goodness, unbelievable. Really, what's
happening with red meat?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, knock me over with a feather eye. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
In places like Korea, nearly doubling in a year, unbelievable.
The Aussie hort stickers are going pretty good too.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Yeah, so horticulture is really grow and it's up to
about nineteen billion dollars now, which is you know, that's
a favit of money and it's a heck of a
big growth when you compare it to probably around about
four billion dollars you know, ten years ago in fact,
and I think if you look at local value of
(29:04):
vegetables alone up to six billion dollars and the nut
industry has really grown, that's one point three billion dollars.
So yeah, horticulture is really coming into its own. It's
a great pity that the Inland Railway is not being
preceded with by the government. You know, there's just no
votes west of the Rangers for them in New South Wales,
(29:26):
so they've kind of stopped at halfway to Brisbane. Because
if that had actually finished the job off and got
that railway going, they could have had stuff produced in
western New South Wales and in Singapore within forty eight hours.
Then that would have made a massive difference to our
exports as well. But anyway, nonetheless, it's really flying horticulture
and contributing to our one hundred billion dollar total production
(29:49):
and agriculture yep.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Crime Shane. They didn't let that go all the way through. Absolutely,
Hey what about China. Just a couple of hours after
the old treaty was assigned Fiji Australia treaty.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But it was a coincidence apparently.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yeah, well of course they would say that, wouldn't they,
you know, and which you know, there's no way. Two
hours after we signed the treaty with the Fijian Prime Minister,
which is a sort of joint treat here it's about policing,
but it's also about military alliances. And then there's also
a billion dollars worth of support going into their economy
from Australia. And two hours later they fire a missile
(30:26):
off from a submarine just off the Philippines which falls
into the pacification round about Naru. They said, oh, look
it's long planned and it's coincidental and got nothing to
do with it. But nonetheless they're saying, you know, you
shouldn't be running around, you know, signing all these treaties
in the Pacific if you want us to help you,
and look how big and strong we are. I think
(30:46):
certainly the Australian government is concerned about that sort of
flexing of muscles, and it also of course brings us
or makes us all aware of the fact of just
how unprepared we are in terms of defense. You know,
you look at places where there are wars going on, Ukraine,
Israel and some on. They have these iron domes and
addie missile defenses. I mean, really hamish. We've got bugger
(31:09):
all in terms of all that. We have some capability,
but if they if we actually did suddenly get into
a war with China, let's say, over Taiwan, you know,
in partnership with the US. Yeah, I mean we've we've
got nothing. We've got some ships, we've got some planes,
but I know New Zealand makes us look like the
Russian army, you know, are compared to New Zealand, But
(31:31):
compared to what we need to be, we're not even close, Amies.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Not even close now speaking of being very wide of
the market and not any not even close to any
kind of sort of well, you know, gentlemanly behavior. Prime
Minister Elbow, I can't even I don't even know, I
think the time I'm allowed to say it. You know,
the whole Kylie Minogue he would share Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, what was this all about?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, he was in this interview that he was doing
with a with a well known comedian over here in Australia,
and he was playing this shag marry date game. So
she offered three alternatives of three female personalities here in
Australia and he said, oh, without any doubt, you know,
(32:22):
and using his words of his new marriage to Jodie,
went tits up. You know, he would definitely shag kyli mnowe. Well,
I mean, really, this spokes the Prime Minister of the
country and really the country, no matter how opera or
how bogan you know you think you are in Australia.
I don't think anyone expects that Prime Minister to be
talking like that, especially when he's newly married. I wouldn't
(32:43):
talk like that, not in a million years. I mean,
it's disrespectful to his new wife, but it's also disrespectful
to his position. And he said, I know he's trying
to be cool and hip and all that sort of stuff,
and then he went on to admit the fact that
he and his wife from you know, after a win
by by South Sydney, they normally have a good bonking session.
(33:04):
To use his words, you know, I mean really, I mean,
it's it's just ungentlemanly behavior. Remember that movie The Ministry
of ungentleman Behavior. Weal, I think this was unprime minister,
unprime ministerial behavior in the extreme.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Maybe yeah, because you think it's comedical or the seating
is like suddenly there's no tone of silence that's dropped
over you, mister prime minister.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think he.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Was trying to be over cool. But I'll tell you what,
it's really backfiring on this morning all the press, and
he of course apologized unreservedly, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
but you know the damage has been done, and you know,
he's just not being seen as someone who is fit
to really be in the position if he if he's
going to talk about using the language as well, you know,
(33:52):
it's just just completely inappropriate. The other two that he
was asked to think about was Nicole Kidman and Ronda
birchmore very very it's very distinguished actresses and we shouldn't
be talking about them like that either. It's just inappropriate,
wrong all round.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Chris, You're going to have a great week on the
train and you'll and I'll be listening to Jamie next
week to hear about your travel. Sex very much for
joining us. That's our Ossie corresponded there, Chris Russell, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Sir, No worries, homishad about.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It was of the country.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hams mackay in for Jamie McKay for the rest of
the week. We're heading to Marlbourne ow PGG Livestock Pete
Barnes can I Pete, how's the weather and conditions in
your part of the world?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Good?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Thanks for having me, Homish. Look here, things are very
very wet up here in Marlborough. I've just spoken to
our livestock rip and Kai Korra too. Just getting update there,
he said, one hundred and seventy meals since four point
thirty yesterday afternoon. So no, it's pretty stormy all right
for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of the country sort of on
standby and certainly copying it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You know the funny is, Peter, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We've got this lovely sort of optimism with a bit
of longevity in the sector now. But the old weather, yeah,
you know, that is one thing we cannot bank on,
so to speak. Can and one or two will be
doing it a bit tough, I imagine, No it's.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Certainly the nemesis, isn't it. And you know, on that
note too famous just our thoughts and wishes to those
guys that have got a few more obstacles than we
have too in the white taking McKenzie of course, many
Toto and those guys that are getting a bit of snow.
So yeah, it's where there's always a.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Great leveler, certainly, is right. Let's talk about this land
change in your region. What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Oh, look here, this whole viticultural scene up here in
Marlboro particularly is seems to be just going through a
bit of a correction. There are some greats, probably some
of them were due to come out to end of
productive life twenty twenty five years they stand, but some
of those decisions now whether they replace them or pull
(36:06):
them out completely. And there's certainly a bit of that
going on that comes at a cost to six seven
thousand dollars a hit there to remove those but it
certainly opens up opportunities for us in the livestock scene
to deal with those properties and find alternatives of course
for them lamb finishing, grazing, et cetera. Potentially, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Sort of what sort of what sort of amount of
land are we talking potentially here?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Look, I don't have that detail. I really don't. It's
not my sector outright, but yeah, it's I think it's
relatively significant. It won't it won't topple over. The grape
industry is here, I think to stay for sure. But
you're certainly going to be a correction anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Well, you know, the correction and prices and the returns
are now getting farm go across the other sector. Is
it at least gives options, which is a good thing. Okay,
ball sales, this will be something you'll be all over, Pete.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You know, how have they been going, the ones you've
been involved with?
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Oh look, yeah, it's been an incredible season. And you know,
on that note from from PGG Writs and there, you know,
we're genuinely thrilled for our vendors and our clients that
were selling balls this year. We had six six vendors
six ballsals year and Moldrover a three day period we
sold the vendors sold three hundred and twenty six balls
(37:37):
under the hammer, so it's significant Italian. Then there's another
forty in Nelson too, a client we handle from there,
so very very strong and the real boom for the
area and everyone involved. Quite an occasion.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
One of the things I enjoyed PET has been a
town who's you know, a country boy at heart.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Though, is social media and the.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Amount of video footage you get to see if some
of these great animals, is it not.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Just a you know, a reflection, is it a reflection.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Of the good times, the better times? But also the
quality of the bulls we're seeing. Seems that some of
these things, that some of these animals are fantastic.
Speaker 9 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (38:15):
Look, certainly the breeders, we've got the recipe pretty right.
They've got consistency throughout, you know, their operations now and
what they're producing, you know, on the back of some
positive and the beef and sheep of course industry too.
So No, there just seemed to be a positive vibe
(38:36):
across the board to these ball sales. Everyone seemed to
be in a good space.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
And no, it's really good, it's really good going forward.
It looks looks positive.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, people, Let you get back to your day job.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Much appreciated, very shamous appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Thank you, Thank you PGG writers and livestock.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Pete Barnes there here on the Country was.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Listen, Okay, we're going to wrap things up here.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
State of emergency now has been declared in the kai
Kura region. As we heard earlier Shane mcmanaway and son
Adam has a farm down there and to turn.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Into a river. So no surprise that that is happening.
So all the.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Best, our best wishes with everybody who and there's plenty
of people right across the South Island and into the
wider rapper east coast side of things really facing a
tough old go at the moment.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I'm Hamish mccaith. This has been The Country.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Will be back tomorrow between twelve and one.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Great to have your company.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hope you're going all right in some of these weather
hit parts of the country.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
All our kind.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thoughts are with you those having to deal with down
on the Deep South, snow, all sorts of all sorts
of weather, just hard yards.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
Could say in the eastern suburbs of Auckland.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Standing by to kick off the show is big screen
of course. Nil Catergory, Federated Farmers President, first generation dairy farmer,
There Clvid and there Coast to Coast athlete and great
advocate for mental health and most other things. But I
actually want to talk a little bit of fertilizer to
start with Becks and one of the greens and what
is their view of the synthetic fertilizer world.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's also Innovation Week with heard Eye, and we look
at some.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, some progressive activity in the world of drones coming
out of South Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Nathan Guy. I wonder if he's back in the neure
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The well traveled Nathan Guy joins us to look at
our ever extending trade tentacles. You might have accidentally called
trade testicles, he saiday, for which I do unreservedly apologize,
But I'm not as much in as much trouble for
saying that as as Elbow is with his whole sort
of rat and ray with Kylie mcnogue across the Tasman.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Our Ossie, corresponded Chris Russell on that and other things,
all things Australian, they're booming over there too at the moment,
and all things.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Marlborough with pgg Wrights and Pete Barnes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
A bit of land use change there is some of
the grapes sort of come to the end of their
natural life and there are other options.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And also the bull sales that have been going gang buses.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Is it just.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Demand or is it also a quality of animal. We'll
find that out from Pete Barnes coming up. But first
up Beckscreen we head to Culverdin and welcome Becks onto
the show. Now the Federated Farmers North Canterbury President, National
(02:38):
Dairy Vice Chair Becks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How are things in your part.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Of the world, Juda Hamish, Yeah, I know it's pretty
west up here in North Canterbury. State of emergency's just
been declared this morning in Cocoda, so we're just going
through what that means for our farmers in the area
and just helping them with that process.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Look, you know that said old thing.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We've got this what is a nice time at the
whole farm gate in terms of returns, but old mother
Nature is always going to be there to challenge this
right and these will be difficult times for a lot
of people across the country.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Oh yeah, I think surely test us resilience like a
good old weather event and I've had not hit my
shortage of those over the last year with the windstorm
at Colvid and last year.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So no.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Obviously it's been a large amount of rainfall and we've
had some rivers burs the banks, which is similar to
the nineteen ninety three flood event, to be honest, And
so we're just helping them navigate the weather and what
they can do for the animals and people on farm.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, okay, let's get into this.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I want to get into the synthetic fertilizer band that
the Greens are proposing the Green Party. What do you
reckon if this word happen? Would be the consequences for
our production?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look, if you take away synthetic night roden, that changes
how we grow feed. You know, potentially we grow less grass,
carry fewer cows, produce less milk, or have to buy
them or supplement and every one of those options have
the cost. You'll drive up the price of food like
fresh fruit, vegetables and meat. And because when there's this
is something, the price goes up. And so that won't
(04:18):
help the cost of living crisis. You know, that will
make every New Zealand and much poorer.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, I mean, is it a sort of a kind
of a doomsday kind of thing coming from the Greens
here or is it something that could be navigated should
the worst case scenario happen.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
It feels like policy rating from an ideological starting point
rather than from an understanding of how modern farming systems
actually work. You know, the policy is completely lacking important
detail like over what time period will it be phased out?
Is it three years, thirty years, one hundred years? You
know that sort of detail matters. So yeah, I believe
(05:01):
you know, is it really a phase out use of
nier and fertilized in New Zealand or is it really
a band?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, right, we've dealt with that.
Speaker 9 (05:09):
Okay, Yeah, I'm just want to ask you your Advocate
of the Year at the Federated Farmer's Internal Awards, how does.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That work in the in the advocacy space going? And
you obviously enjoy that and what are the goals?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Look, I've certainly blown away to win that award and
I certainly didn't expect it. I feel incredibly proud of
the advocacy work that you know, not just me, but
my team has done over the past year in terms
of the policing restructure and the wind event that we
had in Colbernin. But no, I really love being an
advocate for rural people on the ground. You know, good
(05:49):
advocacy starts with listening and genuinely understanding the people that
I'm representing, and so yeah, I'm really part of that.
I didn't know I wanted to become an EV but
I think I just keep seeing issues where people were
most affected, and yeah, I just want to keep going from.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
There organic advocate.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then it's just something that's sort of well, it plays
to your strengths, right, Yeah, I'm probably.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Not very good at sitting back when I think something
could be done better. You know, if farmers are frustrated
by a policy, or if a royal community has been overlooked,
or if decisions are being made without understanding the practical
reality on the ground, my instinct is to get involved.
And over time I realized their advocacy isn't just about
being the loudest voice in the room. It's about listening
and understanding the issue properly, and building relationships with the
(06:35):
people who can influence change, and then being persistent enough
to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and you must you're what first generation dairy farmer there.
I mean, that's obviously an incredible learning journey and plenty
of challenges face, which all leads into to seeing what
needs to be addressed.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I guess, oh, absolutely, you know, we didn't have you know,
we're first generation husband and I we didn't have you know,
family backing us. But we've been really fortunate that our
farm owners have been willing to invest in us and
not just employ us, giving us the opportunity to buy
shares in the farm, and which has created a pathway
that we probably wouldn't have otherwise existed. But because we've
(07:17):
been to that process, you know, starting from the bottom
and moving out up, I think there's you know, we've
learned a lot along the way, and our story also
highlights how difficult that jump in from our ownership has become.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, and great work in the in the Federated Farmers
in the in the membership growth as well. I understand
you've had some real movement in your part.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Of the world. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Look, obviously with the police restructure and the windstorm last year,
you know, people saw what Federated Farmers North Canterbury can do,
not just at a high level but on the ground.
And I'm just so proud to be able to bring
home the Chris Allen Memorial Trophy to Canterbury, where Chris
was such a strong advocate in the Canterbury and yes,
(08:02):
just love that that that award has come back to
a Cannabury province and especially North Canterbury.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yep, yeah a great a great name associated with that
trophy and yeah top marks to you for all the
work that is happening in your area and great to
chat begs, thank you very much for joining us. That's
Beckscreen Federated Farmers, North Canterbury President, National Dairy Vice Chair.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
They're so much happening with the weather and a lot
happening in.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Her world of advocacy and also you know day to
day running the farm and keeping everything ticking over.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This is the country Hartwich mackay.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
In for j M McKay on your Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I'm sure you've had.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It farmer, but then I know it's grew and Innovation
Week on the country where her a pro Bardner, a
Fonterra's on farm Solutions program the.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Country of course Innovation Week brought to you by heard
I Hamish mckuye in for Jamie mciche for the rest
of the week through of course Friday being Matriki but
of a holiday for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Across the country.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Why not now some of its I mean it's just
become you know, it is cool, you know You've got
a lot of drones, don't you, and in all sort
of shapes and form, but the way they're coming into
the ag space is quite remarkable and leading the way
in this is a South Canterbury drone maker, SPS Automation,
(09:36):
and we're joined by their CEO, Scott Spooner.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Now can i Scott? How are you?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I'm doing great? How are you doing? Ham mush?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, very good, Thank you Scott.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
These are exciting times and you know, tell us a
bit about how this technology works, because it's going to
push into a space that's going to make a lot
of difference across the ag sector.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So drones have been use for agricultural uses but quite
some time now, but it's predominantly been focused on broad
acre spraying spran crops and providing furtain chemicals and set
aside into the sort of traditional fields plantations. But at
(10:19):
SPS Automation we saw a real lack of machines that
were capable to go and solve some of our pesty,
pesty invasive plant issues like wild and pines, gorse mascella,
anything that we're really having trouble with in the countryside.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So what are you doing differently then from what we
sort of see, you know, because I was always I've
sort of been amazed by that sort of spot spraying.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And the different things that we've seen for a little while.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But what are you doing differently at SPS automation to
get in there and attack you know, the gorse and
the pampas and the likes.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
So one of the big challenges with a drones is
flight time. If you've got chemical on board, that's just wait,
You've got to fly this into a location. And most
agricultural drones are battery powered, so you're really limited by
the amount of time you can fly. Traditionally it's between
sort of five minutes and ten minutes on a single battery.
(11:20):
So Esper sort ofmation we looked at how we could
sort of solve this problem, and we came up with
the idea of creating a hybrid based multi rotor. So
instead of having a battery that provides all the power
for the aircraft, we have a small engine on board
that runs on fuel. So we use that engine as
(11:44):
a generator and we generate electricity that powers a traditional
electric drone system. This allows us to extend our flight
time to an hour to two hours at a time,
making the drone capable of flying into the high country
to the hills and having the time to apply chemical
(12:05):
to individual plants and not just hard to get to places,
but over large areas and all sorts of different locations.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, because that targeting, that that sort of spot targeting
is critical, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, you don't want to put chemical everywhere. You
want to apply the chemical to the exact plant with
the amount that is needed to control that plant. We
really focus on precision chemical applications, so just the right
amount of chemical and we use a whole variety of
different systems to work out how much needs to go
(12:39):
on and how we want it, you know, to be
applied to the plant. It can be very very effective
for control of things like wilding with not actually using
as much chemical as you think, as long as you
get it on in the right way.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, okay, And so what you know, I mean, obviously
it's a big project now, and there's plenty of all
of those scooge of the country that we need to
deal to. But what about sort of future adaptations. What's
the thinking futuristically was?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So currently we have our ac sixteen aircraft on the market.
That's a spot spraying machine. It's perfect for wilding pines.
It's very efficient at spraying individual trees. Where we're heading
is not just a single aircraft with an operator, but
swarm technology with multiple aircraft operating over a large area
(13:33):
able to control fairly big infestations. Combined with this, we're
actually looking at removing the pilot from the field. So
future technology will be around teleoperation where the machines are
in the field with a docking station and they're actually
controlled from a command center where the pilots are not.
(13:54):
Really it's not top gun these days. It's more monitoring
that the operation is consistent with what you're expecting and
then having a pilot intervene if something is not right.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
These are exciting times and great to hear the developments
that are going on there.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Scott, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, not a problem, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That is CEO Scott Spour of SPS Automation down there
in South Canaday making some incredible progress and inroads in
the in the world of the of the drone, the
hybrid road of motor motor Roda, the small engine fires up,
the fires up, the electricity.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Fantastic stuff. This is the Country and it is Innovation Week,
brought to you by herd Eye. Yes, it is innovation Week.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We're going to head to the Mighty Newer next well
if he is in the Newer, because you know, if
you follow social media, Nathan Guy has been to some
exceptional places in the last few months. And not not
that the Newer, not the Mighty HoTT Fin isn't an
exceptional place.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a great part of the world.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But we're going to talk to Nathan obviously about the
situation as we spread our trade tentacles.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That'll be good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I'll probably talk a bit of footy as well, Dave
Rennie because he does like his rugby, does Nathan.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
That's come up next here on the Country.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Twelve to twenty six of the Country, Hams McKay and for.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Jamie McKay, I think we're going to the Newer right now,
of course.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well, yeah, we've got him, we have got him. We
are going to our man, Nathan Guy. Nathan, how are
you get a very well Hamish?
Speaker 11 (15:49):
How are you getting on right?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, felling the big boots right. You've been you've been
have you had much time? Do you recognize much of
the mighty Newer given? You know, any time I go,
I see you at some like it's almost you're at
some place in Europe that that then leads to a great.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Meal like Michelin meal that night. You know you've been
you've been traveling the fair But yeah I have.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
I did a big trip eu UK. Back on the
farm now loving it. A couple of early calves on
the ground. So exciting times ahead, busy time for all
ustairy farmers. And at the moment we've got a good
grass cover, reasonable weather. We're missing this southerly storm seems
to be hammering up east coast, not up through the
(16:38):
Newer so we're lucky for once.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, we're probably going to head the Shane rick Manoay
shortly who's got a property down in that kai Kura
region as well, and catch up because apparently things are
getting pretty dire there. But okay, so let's talk about
this the the trade plan going forward. I mean countries
like Bangladesh and Nigeria. It's kind of like it feels
like a whole new Land, which doesn't it, But you know,
(17:02):
Todd McClay very pumped up about this in the recent
announcement that we've got an opportunity and we need to
take it.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
It welcome news for exporters, farmers and processes and the
like exciting times. I think it's great that they've come
out with a plan because what it will do is
it will crystallize the minds of senior officials in Wellington,
whether that's Foreign affairs, primary industries or Trade and enterprise.
They'll all need to come together and work on this
(17:33):
constructive look at opportunities going forward. Because seven new economies,
they are massive. You talk about Bangladesh and Nigeria, well,
Bangladesh is a very big dairy market, mainly powders. I
think it's about four hundred and fifty million of export
returns in the last twelve months or so, so that's exciting.
(17:54):
Nigeria similar not as big, but big dairy opportunity. And
then if we look across to South America where it
was a few months ago with Winston Peters, Brazil, Argentina
and Uruguay.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
We're not going to outcompete them with red meat or
in fact with dairy, but what we have got an
opportunity to do is agri tech and services, education, people
to people, movements.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
New air lights going in from Auckland now Buenas are
so exciting times ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, okay, it's good.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What is the potential though, say, you know, you talk
about four hundred and fifty million into Bangladesh, the Nigerias
of this world.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What's the scope where could we land? Well?
Speaker 11 (18:40):
The scope is massive. I guess if we step back
for a moment, Hamish and think about it, just removing
some of the paperless sort of truck barriers, that's going
to be important, moving into digital customs, those sort of things.
Working hard with industry and government on non tariff barriers opportunities.
(19:01):
There costs the red meat sector about one point five
billion dollars a year. There is about threefold on that.
Horticulture also significant, So there's just a couple of areas
that can help. And then if you think about export opportunities,
they are significant. So size and scope seven hundred million people,
(19:26):
five trillion US in terms of all the combined GDP,
these numbers are eye watering. Our exports at the moment
that these seven economies is only one point eight billion.
When I say only, it's still sizable but significant upside.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, fantastic who takes the most credit for this?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So I know there's been a sort of not that
does it really matter at the end of the day.
I mean, I would have thought the current Trade Minister
can put his hand out and say a job well done.
Speaker 11 (19:57):
I'll be meeting Modi with other leaders over the weekend
in Auckland. That's a significant event, having Prime Minister of
India down first time we've had a visit of this
scale for forty years and that's because of Todd McClay
(20:17):
and the Prime Minister have done some serious heavy lifting
to get this FDA across the line in three years,
which is record timing. And I was involved in negotiations
when I was a minister and there be a lot
of pleasantries but just discussions would stall. So I give
a lot of credit and kudos to the coalition government
(20:39):
and indeed National for getting off their chaffs, getting Minister
McLay and a plane trade McLay, as is commonly known,
doing a good work for the government. And ultimately these
trade winds flow through into local economies, they flow right
through into households, so they are this is not just
(21:01):
about the primary sector. This money actually flows right into
every household in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic before you go.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's still one of the great regrets every time I
talk to Richard Low that we never got to name
your dairy ship.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I just want to let you know that that still
hurts all these years later. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
You can come and put an apron and you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, well back in Awkland, but these days but yeah,
but that's right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You're right. Yeah, you're right. I do I do. You
know I will take up that offer. Don't worry about that.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Thank you, Nathan, Nathan guy, meet industry and horror. I
know a dairy farm in New Zealand, Special Trade Envoy.
Good to have Nathan on the show. Roddy, We're going
to catch up with this with a situation. You are
listening to the country, the country, of.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Course, we were standing by. We're going to get news
and sport. Well we're going to go.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We need to check out what's happening. But the weather situation,
as we heard from beck'screen earlier, from down the Covert
and region, and we're hearing around the country down to
the Money at Toto and up the East coast.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Of the South Island and into the southern wider Rappa.
Great friend of.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The show, Shane mcmanaway joins us now and Shane is
a and a Sunday of a property in the Kaikura region. Shane,
thanks for joining us. Things getting pretty dire by all
accounts there.
Speaker 13 (22:34):
Good afternoon, Hamish, they certainly are. We've just sort of
on edge here in the South Warrerappera actually with the
rain event that we had last week and then you
know it was it was a complete another mess and
we're worried about what's happening here now. Good steady rain
falling here since about sort of early morning and not
leading up at all. But down on the dairy farm
in Kaikura, it's unfolding there. It's horrendous what's happening there.
(22:57):
Adam my son sends some photos and they see the
dairy farms turned itself into a river. So a very
serious situation unfolding there.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And that's that would appear to be quite widespread right well.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Where the dairy farmers and kai Kurra. Adam's place is
just on the northern side of Kaikura township, in fact,
right on the main road there and quite a lot
of the rivers sort of make their way down down
to the beat down to the sea from there. But
I think it's reasonably widespread round in the lower Lyne
Kaikura Town area. But I'm only really picking that up
(23:30):
secondhand from Adam. He was busy evacuating the kids out
of the house because I think the water was about
to go through, and I haven't been able to get
back in contact with him.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, well that says something, doesn't it, Shane, And you know,
look and ow old mate Lowie.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I even tried.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He was due to come on the radio, which he loves,
but he's been sort of sort of bogged down by
weather as well. So it's pretty widespread there if you
had a chance to have a look at some of
the damage across the South Wider Rappera. I mean it
wasn't until midweek when we started seeing the shots on
the tally that we realized how bad that was.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
No, I've been heavily immersed in that topic down there.
I was asked if I would share a meeting of
about thirty odd farmers and some of the officials down
here from the Wellington Regional Council and South Rapa District Council.
So last Friday we did it. We've did an inspection
and we also held meetings here and it's taken up
quite a lot of time to look for how we're
(24:24):
going to sort of advance from where we are there.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
At the moment.
Speaker 13 (24:27):
It needs some short term fixes, but it also needs
some long term thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
They're Hamish, Yep, thank you very much for giving us
your time. Shane mcmanaway out of the wider rapper Son
Adam Farming and kai Kura there and he hasn't been
able to get a hold of Adam which just you
know farm has turned into a river. So yeah, there's
a lot a lot happening around the country in terms.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Of the weather, so we'll keep a closer eye on that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
We'll stand by now though. Coming up news and sport
here on the country.
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Speaker 14 (25:07):
Yeah, thanks Hamish. Weather conditions looking to ramp up around
the country. He might try and catch up with Shane's
sun in CoA Coda tomorrow if we can get reception
through that area. But stay safe out there if you're
in any of those areas getting hard hit today and
keep an eye on those weather warnings. But tomorrow Federated
Farmers will be hosting a public meeting for Ykatto Farmers
(25:28):
with AG Minister Todd McLay and ram Rama Reform Minister
Chris Bishop. They're discussing the wy Cattle Plan change once
a PC one. It's a big deal, could have huge
costs in compliance requirements for farming family. So if you're
around the area, head down and support the event. You'll
be running from eleven thirty am into one at Mystery
Creek Events Center. And now his sport.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Sport on the Country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes, sir, the country sport.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Belgium went up early against United States of a miracle
team Trump give fee for another call, Donald, I don't
know it's helping at the moment. Belgium went up after
nine minutes. US equalized the thirty.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
One minute mark and then another goal.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So it's two to one to Belgium over the United
States of America at the FIFA World Cup road place
in the top eight and that is our sport on
the country. Willis is the country and always an enjoyable
(26:38):
time of the week, and just I think a day
earlier this week because he's off on the well Australia's
version of the I think it's the Indian Pacific or
the Orange Express before a pot of a holiday. So
we're getting him today at Ossie. Correspondent Chris Russell gaddo, Chris,
how are you.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Good day, amis share I'm right and early and looking
forward to heading over across the desert in the train. Admira.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, that'll be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Ronnie's taking on those Korean beef sales have doubled and
taking up the slack from China.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Yes, well, we talked about the fact that this fifty
five percent tariff's now been imposed on us, and everyone
was getting nervous, especially when the you know, the South
American quotas start getting used up and all that meat
starts getting dumped on the American market. But we shipped
one hundred and forty six thousand tons across in June,
(27:29):
which is an amazing amount of beef to still be
shipping slightly below what we send in May, but of
course that was everyone trying to finish off the quota.
But it's still right up there amongst the strongest months
we've ever shipped, about nine percent above June last year
and about fifty percent above the five year average. Now,
the interesting thing is a lot of this slack has
(27:51):
been taken up in Korea. The United States is still
our biggest customer. They took about fifty thousand tons from
US in June. We're about thirty percent of our total exports.
But if you look at Korea, Korea went from seventeen
thousand tons this time last year to thirty two thousand
tons this year, so that's about eighteen percent of the total,
(28:15):
So that's really climbing. Japan is still very strong their
number three. So we don't seem to be having any
difficulty in getting rid of our rid of our beef Hamish.
And I see that Martin price is up again, nine
dollars a kilo for Martin. My goodness, unbelievable. Really, what's
happening with red meat?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, knock me over with a feather eye. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
In places like Korea, nearly doubling in a year, unbelievable.
The Aussie hort stickers are going pretty good too.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Yeah, so horticulture is really grow and it's up to
about nineteen billion dollars now, which is you know, that's
a favit of money and it's a heck of a
big growth when you compare it to probably around about
four billion dollars you know, ten years ago in fact,
and I think if you look at local value of
(29:04):
vegetables alone up to six billion dollars and the nut
industry has really grown, that's one point three billion dollars.
So yeah, horticulture is really coming into its own. It's
a great pity that the Inland Railway is not being
preceded with by the government. You know, there's just no
votes west of the Rangers for them in New South Wales,
(29:26):
so they've kind of stopped at halfway to Brisbane. Because
if that had actually finished the job off and got
that railway going, they could have had stuff produced in
western New South Wales and in Singapore within forty eight hours.
Then that would have made a massive difference to our
exports as well. But anyway, nonetheless, it's really flying horticulture
and contributing to our one hundred billion dollar total production
(29:49):
and agriculture yep.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Crime Shane. They didn't let that go all the way through. Absolutely,
Hey what about China. Just a couple of hours after
the old treaty was assigned Fiji Australia treaty.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But it was a coincidence apparently.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yeah, well of course they would say that, wouldn't they,
you know, and which you know, there's no way. Two
hours after we signed the treaty with the Fijian Prime Minister,
which is a sort of joint treat here it's about policing,
but it's also about military alliances. And then there's also
a billion dollars worth of support going into their economy
from Australia. And two hours later they fire a missile
(30:26):
off from a submarine just off the Philippines which falls
into the pacification round about Naru. They said, oh, look
it's long planned and it's coincidental and got nothing to
do with it. But nonetheless they're saying, you know, you
shouldn't be running around, you know, signing all these treaties
in the Pacific if you want us to help you,
and look how big and strong we are. I think
(30:46):
certainly the Australian government is concerned about that sort of
flexing of muscles, and it also of course brings us
or makes us all aware of the fact of just
how unprepared we are in terms of defense. You know,
you look at places where there are wars going on, Ukraine,
Israel and some on. They have these iron domes and
addie missile defenses. I mean, really hamish. We've got bugger
(31:09):
all in terms of all that. We have some capability,
but if they if we actually did suddenly get into
a war with China, let's say, over Taiwan, you know,
in partnership with the US. Yeah, I mean we've we've
got nothing. We've got some ships, we've got some planes,
but I know New Zealand makes us look like the
Russian army, you know, are compared to New Zealand, But
(31:31):
compared to what we need to be, we're not even close, Amies.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Not even close now speaking of being very wide of
the market and not any not even close to any
kind of sort of well, you know, gentlemanly behavior. Prime
Minister Elbow, I can't even I don't even know, I
think the time I'm allowed to say it. You know,
the whole Kylie Minogue he would share Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, what was this all about?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, he was in this interview that he was doing
with a with a well known comedian over here in Australia,
and he was playing this shag marry date game. So
she offered three alternatives of three female personalities here in
Australia and he said, oh, without any doubt, you know,
(32:22):
and using his words of his new marriage to Jodie,
went tits up. You know, he would definitely shag kyli mnowe. Well,
I mean, really, this spokes the Prime Minister of the
country and really the country, no matter how opera or
how bogan you know you think you are in Australia.
I don't think anyone expects that Prime Minister to be
talking like that, especially when he's newly married. I wouldn't
(32:43):
talk like that, not in a million years. I mean,
it's disrespectful to his new wife, but it's also disrespectful
to his position. And he said, I know he's trying
to be cool and hip and all that sort of stuff,
and then he went on to admit the fact that
he and his wife from you know, after a win
by by South Sydney, they normally have a good bonking session.
(33:04):
To use his words, you know, I mean really, I mean,
it's it's just ungentlemanly behavior. Remember that movie The Ministry
of ungentleman Behavior. Weal, I think this was unprime minister,
unprime ministerial behavior in the extreme.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Maybe yeah, because you think it's comedical or the seating
is like suddenly there's no tone of silence that's dropped
over you, mister prime minister.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think he.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Was trying to be over cool. But I'll tell you what,
it's really backfiring on this morning all the press, and
he of course apologized unreservedly, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
but you know the damage has been done, and you know,
he's just not being seen as someone who is fit
to really be in the position if he if he's
going to talk about using the language as well, you know,
(33:52):
it's just just completely inappropriate. The other two that he
was asked to think about was Nicole Kidman and Ronda
birchmore very very it's very distinguished actresses and we shouldn't
be talking about them like that either. It's just inappropriate,
wrong all round.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Chris, You're going to have a great week on the
train and you'll and I'll be listening to Jamie next
week to hear about your travel. Sex very much for
joining us. That's our Ossie corresponded there, Chris Russell, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Sir, No worries, homishad about.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It was of the country.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hams mackay in for Jamie McKay for the rest of
the week. We're heading to Marlbourne ow PGG Livestock Pete
Barnes can I Pete, how's the weather and conditions in
your part of the world?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Good?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Thanks for having me, Homish. Look here, things are very
very wet up here in Marlborough. I've just spoken to
our livestock rip and Kai Korra too. Just getting update there,
he said, one hundred and seventy meals since four point
thirty yesterday afternoon. So no, it's pretty stormy all right
for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of the country sort of on
standby and certainly copying it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You know the funny is, Peter, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We've got this lovely sort of optimism with a bit
of longevity in the sector now. But the old weather, yeah,
you know, that is one thing we cannot bank on,
so to speak. Can and one or two will be
doing it a bit tough, I imagine, No it's.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Certainly the nemesis, isn't it. And you know, on that
note too famous just our thoughts and wishes to those
guys that have got a few more obstacles than we
have too in the white taking McKenzie of course, many
Toto and those guys that are getting a bit of snow.
So yeah, it's where there's always a.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Great leveler, certainly, is right. Let's talk about this land
change in your region. What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Oh, look here, this whole viticultural scene up here in
Marlboro particularly is seems to be just going through a
bit of a correction. There are some greats, probably some
of them were due to come out to end of
productive life twenty twenty five years they stand, but some
of those decisions now whether they replace them or pull
(36:06):
them out completely. And there's certainly a bit of that
going on that comes at a cost to six seven
thousand dollars a hit there to remove those but it
certainly opens up opportunities for us in the livestock scene
to deal with those properties and find alternatives of course
for them lamb finishing, grazing, et cetera. Potentially, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Sort of what sort of what sort of amount of
land are we talking potentially here?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Look, I don't have that detail. I really don't. It's
not my sector outright, but yeah, it's I think it's
relatively significant. It won't it won't topple over. The grape
industry is here, I think to stay for sure. But
you're certainly going to be a correction anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Well, you know, the correction and prices and the returns
are now getting farm go across the other sector. Is
it at least gives options, which is a good thing. Okay,
ball sales, this will be something you'll be all over, Pete.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You know, how have they been going, the ones you've
been involved with?
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Oh look, yeah, it's been an incredible season. And you know,
on that note from from PGG Writs and there, you know,
we're genuinely thrilled for our vendors and our clients that
were selling balls this year. We had six six vendors
six ballsals year and Moldrover a three day period we
sold the vendors sold three hundred and twenty six balls
(37:37):
under the hammer, so it's significant Italian. Then there's another
forty in Nelson too, a client we handle from there,
so very very strong and the real boom for the
area and everyone involved. Quite an occasion.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
One of the things I enjoyed PET has been a
town who's you know, a country boy at heart.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Though, is social media and the.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Amount of video footage you get to see if some
of these great animals, is it not.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Just a you know, a reflection, is it a reflection.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Of the good times, the better times? But also the
quality of the bulls we're seeing. Seems that some of
these things, that some of these animals are fantastic.
Speaker 9 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (38:15):
Look, certainly the breeders, we've got the recipe pretty right.
They've got consistency throughout, you know, their operations now and
what they're producing, you know, on the back of some
positive and the beef and sheep of course industry too.
So No, there just seemed to be a positive vibe
(38:36):
across the board to these ball sales. Everyone seemed to
be in a good space.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
And no, it's really good, it's really good going forward.
It looks looks positive.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, people, Let you get back to your day job.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Much appreciated, very shamous appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Thank you, Thank you PGG writers and livestock.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Pete Barnes there here on the Country was.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Listen, Okay, we're going to wrap things up here.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
State of emergency now has been declared in the kai
Kura region. As we heard earlier Shane mcmanaway and son
Adam has a farm down there and to turn.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Into a river. So no surprise that that is happening.
So all the.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Best, our best wishes with everybody who and there's plenty
of people right across the South Island and into the
wider rapper east coast side of things really facing a
tough old go at the moment.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I'm Hamish mccaith. This has been The Country.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Will be back tomorrow between twelve and one.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.