February 10, 2026 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Nathan Guy, Chris Hipkins, Winston Peters, Christopher Luxon, Kate Acland, Todd McClay, David Seymour, Jono Pemberton, Steve Abel, and Todd Charteris.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good A, New Zealand and welcome to the Country Special
ob Today we are broadcasting from Parliament Lawns. You can't
beat Wellington on a good day. It's the National Lamb
Day barbecue and we've got all sorts of political celebrities,
plus Grant McCullum hanging around in case some of them
don't turn up. Christopher Luxon's running awee bit late. Chris
Hipkins will be here shortly. I will also be talking
(00:50):
to David Seymour and Winston. I don't think we'll be
doing that at the same time. I don't know if
they play that well together. And Steve Abel's going to
make an appearance from mcgreen's. But kicking off the show
in the absence of the Prime Minister is a former
National Party minister, former Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy,
who was wearing his Meat Industry Association hat today because
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the Meat Industry Association, along with Beef and Lamb New
Zealand are putting on this National Lamb Day barbecue. Good afternoon, Nathan,
and good to catch you for a bear and Wellington
last night it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Was great, Jamie. It's surprising how you bump into oh
late at night in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well it is. And I did a bit at fair
bit of celebrity spotting on the way here. I was
sitting behind Dane Cole's on the plane and engaged and
bought him a wee bit about rugby. Of course he
was down looking at Jamie. Joseph yes, and I think
he's off to Japan to have a look at Dave Rennie.
And then I get out to the uber rank at
Wellington Airport and they've changed it since last time I
(01:47):
was here, so I sort of yelled out to anyone
who would listen, where's the uber rank? And this bloke
gets out of a car and says it's over there,
and I say, oh, hello you and Chatfield lovely to Mootshoe.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So there you go, such a name dropper.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I am a name dropper and I saw you. Stuart
Todd McLay of the Federated Farmers Boys were all in
back benches last night with a rumor running rife and
We're going to have to deal with this one today.
Wayne Langford, potential Labor Party candidate for Tasman West Coast. Wow,
off the press, Off the press, but let's get onto
your job.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Wow. Shit.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I wonder if Wayne will be in a blue car
or a red car on the West Coast'd be interesting
to see.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We will watch that space. Indeed, look this. We were
celebrating a National Lamb Day on Sunday, one hundred and
forty four years since the good Ship Dunedin left for
Port Charmers. They had over five thousand carcasses and they
actually had some two hundred and forty six kegs a butter.
So not only was it the birth of our frozen
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meat industry, it was almost the birth of our export
dairy industry as well. And that ninety eight days at
sea when they got their only one carcass was unfit for.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Sale, isn't that amazing? That was the of what we're
celebrating today. That first shipment really got us into gear
in the UK and as a result of that, we're
celebrating one hundred and forty four years of a magnificent product,
the best in the world, and that is our Lamb
I'm so excited about today. I'm really looking forward to
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tasting a beautiful lamb shop. Celebrate our farmers, celebrate our processes.
When you think about the processes that I represent, we
have to deal with such a lot geopolitical issues, exchange
rate fluctuations, there's numerous issues, domestic policies. I see Chris
Hopkins is here, so that's going to be an interesting
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take to hear from him and what the opposition parties
are thinking coming into the election. We're working on our
own election manifesto on bred behalf of the red meat
sector to make sure that when politicians are thinking about
their policies that they're cognizant of the fact that we
are the biggest manufacturing industry in New Zealand, thousand jobs
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when you think about direct and indirect and twelve billion
dollars of exports.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I want to give a bit of a pat
on the back to the meat industry suppliers who are
putting on the lamb shops, lam wrecks hopefully today. The
Alliance Group ansco Ovation and Greenley, so they're all supporting
this day.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yes they are, and others are supporting other initiatives up
and down the country. Why mumou you alluded to happening
down south. There's other localized events happening. This is really
a day of celebrating success.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Absolutely, Hey, just before I let get Chris Hipkins on.
Very good of them to turn up for the prime
Minister's not here yet, so maybe it could be the
next prime minister. But bipartisan politics is important and I'll
be really interested to hear what Chris Hipkins has to
say about this India Free Trade deal because there seems
to be a lot of controversy about it at the moment.
(04:55):
I'm hoping, and I don't know whether I'll nod his
head or not, that Labor will support this. I'm sure
they will.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My view is that labor will support it. It will
pass with a majority. Yes, there'll be one or two
political parties that might kick up, but let's be clear.
We're five million people here. We export around the world.
India is a massive market, one point five billion potential population.
We've been battling against the thirty percent tariff for lamb
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into India and it's a market that could be really big.
This could be like China was to us when we
started off small steps, but massive to the New Zealand
economy and to our farmers and processes. So my plea
to all politicians is get behind the FDA, bang it
through the Parliament so that we can try and get
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ahead of the European settling there is because they've got
a better wine deal than we have, so we need
to move fast.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, there we go, Nathan Guide, chair of the Meat
Industry Association. Let's get would be prime minister if to
believe the polls will be will be. He's saying, Chrisip Can,
Chris Chippy, thank you very much for coming along. I'm
going to start with that India free trade agreement. You've
got a history or we have got a history of
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bipartisan politics when it comes to our free trade agreements.
Is it a done deal that you guys will support this?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Well, First of all, Jamie, I have a complaint for
you. You made us walk past the barbecue where they're cooking
very very nice smelling lamb in order to in.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Order to come and speak to you.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
But I'll do my best. Look on the free trade
agreement with India. The government actually haven't formally asked us
for our support at this point, but we're taking it
from their public comments that they would quite like that.
I think there's been an absolutely botched process by the
government where they've just failed to deliver good government. The
fact that they can't get their own side to support it,
(06:48):
I think is an indictment on them. I'm trying to
be the adult in the room here though. Free trade
is good for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We rely on it.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
You know, we're here today on Lamb Day where we
celebrate the contribution that refrigeration has made to us as
a trading nation. You know, it is so important to
us as a country. I think the government have done
some things in this trade agreement which do need scrutiny.
Some of the immigration provisions, add some of the investment
provisions and it do need to be properly scrutinized. Increased
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quota access that's great, removal of tariffs that's great. The
labor parties fully in support of those things. So you
know we're working through that with the government now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
The Prime Minister and Todd mclays singing from the same
hymn sheet on this one.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
I just think they're being too tricky. They should just
be upfront with people. No there isn't an ability in
the agreement to cap the number of international students coming
from India, but to do so would be discriminatory in
a way that we've never done before as a country anyway,
So they, rather than just being cute with the truth,
just be upfront with New Zealander is about it. Tell
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them what's in the agreement and tell them why you've
agreed to that. I think the problem is they've been
trying to put a positive spin on it rather than
just being upfront about what's in it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Okay, I've got a text in here from a good
West Coaster Katie Milon, former president of Federated Farmers. Don't
forget and most of India cows are sacred and are
only milked for protein. A lamb has huge opportunities. So
we all agree on that one. Not talking about the
West Coast backbenches last night, Chris, because you've let the
Southland boy loosen the big town. It's a bit of
a knees up for us, a bit quite exciting to
(08:22):
come to the big smoke. Rumors were rife that Wayne Langford,
current president of Federated Farmers, is going to be standing
for labor and Damien's old seat West Coast Tasman. Can
you confirm or deny.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
If you want to, you know, cast those potential aspersions
on Wayne. I don't view them as suspersions, but he might.
Then maybe you should raise those with him, But we
don't comment on the nominating process for electorate seats until
candidates of him.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He would I'm unaware of his political allegiance, but someone
like him with genuine agg cred would be good for you,
Because you don't mind me saying so you lack it.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Oh well, We've got a very broad range of people
putting their names for it to be labor candidates at
the forthcoming election. I'm really excited about that, and it
is people. I think. I've got many people coming from
backgrounds that you wouldn't normally associate, you know, as potential
labor candidates. There's people from rural communities and farming backgrounds.
We've got people from business backgrounds. We've got people from
sort of law and ordinary type for backgrounds. Those aren't
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necessarily people you'd expect to see putting their names for
for labor traditionally. I think that's a really healthy sign
that we're getting those that interest.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Chris Hipkins, thank you so much for coming along and
gracing us with your presence. You can go and have
a lamb rack now. I don't know where the Prime
Minister is, but we've got a cast of thousands to
chat to before the end of the hour, including David
Seymour and Winston Peters. Can I put those two on
air together? Probably not, eh.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I think they struggled to sit around the cabinet table
together from what I've seen.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But I'll get a bit of separation.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Maybe maybe you can, you know, sort of ask them,
you know, ask them why they can't work more constructively together,
you know, take something like the free trade agreement with India. Really,
the situation that I'm in now, I shouldn't be, you know,
I shouldn't be the government coming Kevin hand to the opposition.
The government should have sorted this all out a long
time ago and they haven't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, Hey, got to go, Thanks for your time. You
enjoy a lamb wreck. It is the National Lamb Day
Barbecue on Parliament launch. You just cannot beat Wellington on
a good day, and we've got a great day to
day in Wellington. John O. Pembden's from ag proud there
right behind National Lamb Day. We've got Kate Ackland from
Beef and Lamb New Zealand. Todd charter Is from Rabobank.
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David Seymour, Winston Peters and Steve Abel were looking forward
to meeting him, the Greens Egg spokesperson all coming up
before the end of the hour. It is seventeen after twelve.
We'll be back after the break.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
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then on me.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
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Speaker 2 (10:50):
There's a party downtown.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You fishly welcome back to the country. Brought to you
by Farmlands and I Susu, our new partners for twenty
twenty six. Here's a man who's going to have an
interesting twenty twenty six. New Zealand first Leader, former Deputy
Prime Minister Winston Peters, thank you very much for coming along.
Now we've already spoken to Chris Hipkins. He said he
is going to have to be the grown up in
(11:13):
the room over the Indian FTA. You're taking a bit
of heat for.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
This, No, I'm not quite the converse.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
As each day goes by, people begin to understand that
if you have a contact, maybe it pays to have
a legal mind to be able to understand what it means.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That's where I've got the edge on some of these people.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Now, are we getting mixed messaging from the Prime Minister?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
V told McLay, Oh, look, you have to ask them
about that.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I'm just saying what I know and what I've learned,
and everything that I've said is confirmed by a goal
the equivalent Trade Minister in India and the Prime Minister
of India Modi. They're confirming exactly every think I've said.
Time will co come by. I can tell you one
numbercent certain you'll find out who's right and who's wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
This is all about immigration as far as you're concerned.
It's got nothing to do with the free trade agreement,
right Holid.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
When you say that we got nine three percent access
to their markets on things we don't sell, what does
that mean? And I look at the Australian market when
the suspect of some things they're saying, and I look
at that lack of progress that the Indian's free cred
deal with Australia has bred when it comes to some
things we're promising people about now. So I'm saying to
the Farming Committee, maybe for the first time for a
long time. Start listening and paying attention because your future
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depends upon this.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, the National are saying that they can effectively cap
student Jesus under disagreement. You obviously disagree.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
No, I don't disagree the document does the document mentions uncapped? Now?
How clear can you be? Who said that? As well?
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Mody said that the Goal has said that, well, they
published India says that, So why are you hearing one
thing when the facts and documentation are something else. I'm
not an argument here. I just wanted to say to people.
I was alerted when I first saw it, and I
became concerned as to where this was going. And I
expressed rightly my concerns because I still believe that we
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can make mess progress with India on things like farming
and milk.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Because they need our help.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Definitely, but they don't need a they don't need a
dairy deal.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Or no, no, you say, do they look?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
I said to them, and I wasn't getting I didn't
have enough time to spend with some of them, but
I said, you will need thirty five percent more food
in the next thirty years, and you can't no chance
of getting there without you got a dramatic lift in
your own production.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
We can help you.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Seriously, But those sorts of debates and approaches take time
to bed in.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So what do you say to the people who say
that if we didn't sign up when we signed it,
that we would have to wait years to get another
crack at it?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
But what do you Well, my question is sign what?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well? The free trade Agreement?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yes, so what does it mean? What does it mean?
What are you signing up to take on nine hard
Look at that? Do you know that twenty thousand plus
will be coming right? And they bring their parents, bring
their children and stay here for three years after they've graduated.
All this is in in that documentation that surrounds it.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Did you know that? Well, if you didn't, why did
you make a decision that was a good idea?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Then? Okay, just quickly, because I need to let you
go and have a lamb shop. I want to ask
you about and I know you don't comment on polls,
but I do want to ask you about the scenario.
Look at that smile. The scenario of to party Murray
maybe only winning one or two seats instead of all
the Maori seats. Surely that would spell the end for
a for a left leaning coalition.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
In my first speech in twenty twenty three after the
twenty three three election, I said the Murray Party were finished.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Did you remember that?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I can't remember what I had.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
From twenty two for a look and see who you was?
They finished? Finished and take him us for that.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, there's no way past the winning finishing post for
Chippey without to party.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Maury, Well, that's his problem.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Remember if you want to go with the racist, he
wants to go with a bunch of communists in the
Green Party.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That's his problem.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
But this is election about real politic and the change
is having you in polics few months will be dramatic.
Stand back and watch. The good news is I'll still
come on your program. Just both the fact there's some
of your farmas either wake up right here, right now.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Al right here, I'll let you go and have a
lamb shop Winston Peters or we got the boss here
as well. I might get see what his view is
on the Indian Free Trade Agreement, Christopher Luxen, And I'm
pleased to see he hasn't. Just as he comes in
there you friendly shake of the hands with his former
deputy Prime Minister. All right, so he softened me up.
(15:30):
He's told me the real truth Prime Minister about the
Indian Free Trade Agreement. And well done for not putting
your National Lamb Day T shirt over your suit.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
I have just jumped off a plane. I have raced
through this building to get to you today. I chucked
the T shirt on.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
While I was walking. I managed to knock this.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
You have put it over the top of the suit coat,
which is a major achievement because it was a fashion
faux part. But I put a lot of attention on
National Lambday. I thought last year there were two things
that I think drove National Lambday last year. One was
me wearing a T shirt over the top of my
suit because I had to go straight back to Parliament.
And the second thing was you came here and very
respectfully pete and the bushes and oh no, I know, yeah,
I don't think you've done that this year.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, no, no, I haven't. I obviously haven't had enough
coffee this morning. I had a bit of a night
on the town last night in Wellington. Did you got
to oh well, interestingly at backbench, yeah, Federated Farmers turned
up and drove so they were all there and the
rumor running rife. He's around here somewhere. I've got to
ask him, is that Wayne Langford the president is going
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to stand for labor in West Coast Tasman. Have you
heard that rumor?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I haven't heard that at all.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, that was the one doing the rounds last night.
So we won't let the truth get in the way
of a good story. So Winston has kind of said,
you're telling porkies on student visas and we're going to
get twenty thousand Indians in here. This is all about immigration.
It's not about free trade as far as he's concerned.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
Oh look, I mean what it is about free trade.
It's actually about New Zealand getting in on the ground
floor with a growing economy that's going to be moving
increasingly into the middle class. That's got huge demand for
New Zealand's products and services, including lamb and read meat
and other things. So, you know, once it's had a
long standing policy of opposing for evad agreements. You know,
we saw that with the China FTA. We've seen it
now at the Indian FTA. Frankly, he's wrong. I respect him,
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but he's just wrong and he's entitled to his point
of view. He's got a different point of view. But
I can tell you from our end. You know, we've
done an outstanding deal. And as you've seen even the
European deal come through, you've seen others in recent periods.
The fact that we're in there early with the Indians
is fantastic. And let's just fast forward five, ten, fifteen,
twenty years from now. You can't tell me, with the
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biggest population in the world, the third biggest economy, one
of the fast the fastest growing G twenty economy in
the world, that us being well positioned with the Indians
is a good thing for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What do you make Because I've got lots of people
to chat to. Final question for you, and I threw
this one at Winston, who had a sort of grumpy
face on that. How do you get on arguing with
him when he's got his grumpy face on?
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Oh, look, we have some robust conversations, but that's what
you'd expect. Actually, it's part of the good sport. But
as but no, look, I mean, as you've seen. You know,
we have differences, you know, and that's okay in an
MMP environment where you put three parties together. That's the
electoral system New Zealand's voted for time and time again.
You go to election night, you then chance to form
a government and to try and make it work. And
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doesn't mean we agree on everything, but actually we agree
on the important stuff and we agree with there's common
ground on you know, the core agenda of this government.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Okay, Well my question to him was, and I'll throw
it at you for to believe the polls. Maybe if
to party Marie only win one or two seats, does
that spell the end of a labor led coalition?
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Well, I think what's going to spell the end of
any labor prospects of government as a capital gains tax.
And then you heard him constanding there beside Chloe Swarbrick
not ruling out eighty billion dollars worth a new taxes
on wealth taxes and trust taxes and death taxes and
every other sort of tax. So you know that's not
what New Zealand needs right now. We've we've worked damn
hard over the last two years to get this recovery
in place, and you're going to snuff it out in
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a heartbeat by doing that. I'm telling it immediately, so
you know, frankly, their policies are wrong. They're going to
they're going to spend more like they did last time,
wasteful spending. They're going to tax more, and they're going
to borrow a hell.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Of a lot more.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, Prime, honestly, thanks so much for your time on it.
You have a lamb shop and we'll see you and
Gore or why moo on.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
We start looking forward to that, mate.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's great, that's stay out of the bushes, please down here, Jamie. Well, well,
if they would open Parliament up and let us have
a pee in the building, it's probably a bit like
on occasions. There we go. That was last year, that
was so twenty twenty five. We're going to take a
break on the other side of it. I see Kate
Ackland is here from Beef and Lamb. Todd mcclay's here
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as well. We've got so many people to chat to
before the end of the hour and I just want
to get in a bit of a plug. Yes you're
back again. Oh you're taking a photo.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Your people have told my people have to have a photo.
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And i'm On Parliament lawn for The National Lamb Day
barbecue which is being supported by The Meat Industry. Association
we've heard from the Chair Nathan, guy Former minister For
Primary industries and of course beef and Lamb New. Zealand
And i'll start with, You. Katekland this is a wonderful.
(22:47):
Initiative everyone's lining up for a lamb. Chop.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
Oh, look this is absolutely the best day of the.
Year and you know we've got politicians from across the
house here because one thing everyone has in common is
everybody loves a good lamb.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Chop yeah they. Do it's. Interest well here's one who's
just wandered in, uninvited but he's very much the man
of the. MOMENT i think we were in the same
restaurant last, night BUT i wasn't in THE vip. Area tod,
McClay minister Of agriculture And. Trade BUT i did spy
walking out of the said same Restaurant Stuart. Nash what
(23:21):
was he up?
Speaker 13 (23:22):
TO i didn't have a chance to talk to. Him
but that's a great Restaurant portland is you get some
of the best beef anywhere In New. Zealand there a
lot of providers the meat. INDUSTRY i asked him who
beef it. Was there was a fight going. On it
was so good for good they all wanted to claim.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It. WELL i want to get a plug in for
The Alliance, group Ansco ovation And greenley who are providing
all the lamb here today For National Lamb. Day now
what do you make of this rumor That i've, started in,
fact that started in back benches last night with THE,
feds That Wayne langford he's around here. SOMEWHERE i might
get him on here to answer this. One it's going
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to stand For labor And West coast testment.
Speaker 13 (23:59):
That that would be the best thing that could happen
to labour because he is so sensible and would make them.
Sensible But wayne is a sensible, Man SO i reckon
there's no truth to that.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Rumor, Ok Kate Acklund or you've got your feet under
the table now as chair Of beef And Lamb New,
zealand are you being wooed by political?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
PARTIES i still ought quite a bit to do, Here,
jamie so not going anywhere Near wellington for a while
other than As beef And lamb.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Cheer you've chosen a good time to be chair Of
beef And Lamb New zealand because we have record red meat.
Prices he doesn't get any better Well Wi todd gets
HIS fda across the line With.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
India, look, absolutely it's a great time to be a
farmer and we've got really strong prices at the. Moment
but two years ago things were very, different and you,
know we've got to celebrate the resilience of our, farmers
especially on a day Like National Lamb, day that farmers
have continued to produce world class protein through the tough
times and continue to innovate and try and do it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Better so you're from a sheep and beef farm and
you've got a dairy operation as. Well when it comes to,
lamb it'll all be homekill at your, place is.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It we don't need a lot of.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Homekill it all goes to the.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well you can't afford to eat the home cill what's
your favorite? Cut mine's the lamb wreck, ARM a, shoulder a,
shoulder front, Shoulder.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
Yeah absolutely love a shoulder actually.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Front, shoulder bones and. Stuffed how about that on the?
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Barbecue?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah todd, McLay what's your favorite cut of?
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Lamb it'll be a lamb chop and if you don't
mind where it comes, From. Jamie this is a third
year we've hosted In. Parliament the first year was a bit.
Rainy last year people came along, positively but we got
it wrong that first. Year there are only. Sausages now
if you come To parliament you're like everyone. Else in
Rural New. Zealand you got to pick up a bit
of lamb with your fingers and enjoy.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
It.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Absolutely just on Your indian getting annoyed by texts coming.
THROUGH i need to concentrate on one. Thing. Focus you're
In INDIAN. Fta winston had his grumpy face on when
he was talking to me about. That, yeah, look there
was always going to be a bit of.
Speaker 13 (25:58):
Politics it didn't surprise me because it's a very very big, Deal.
Jamie one point four billion, people we're five. Million we
did very well out of. This you, know early indicasions
Are we've done as, well probably better than The European.
Union they are bigger and wealthier than we. Are who
knows What india has just done with THE, us BUT
i back ound. Negotiators it is better than The australia
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deal and it is as simple as. This every party
and partner will have to decide for themselves where they
want to back Rural New zealand and all exporters and
support this, deal and if, not they should make the
case for the reason. Not BUT i want to be
really really clear to sheep farmers. Today on day, one
your tariff rate goes from thirty three percent to. Zero
you will sell as much lamb there as you can
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and there are there are five hundred million people that
will eat. It this is a very good trade. Deal
it has nothing at all to do with.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Migration, yea what do you, Say, KATE i, Say Bogo
winston on. THIS i think he's just, posturing he's.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Grandstanding, look WHAT i think we need to remember is
the success of this three is built on. Trade and
actually that's What National lambday is all. About its celebrating
that entrepreneurial, spirit that candor attitude of those guys who
got that first shipment of lamb together and that was
there lay the groundwork for a multi billion dollar industry
that Every New zealander is better off. For and so you,
know trade is at the very core of what we.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Do, hey did you, realize just by way of useless
information on repeating WHAT i said at the top of the,
hour there was over five thousand carcasses that went on
The Dunedin one one got, spored but there was also
two hundred and forty six kegs of. Butter so that's
sort of the birth of our export dairy industry as.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Well oh, well don't tell the dairy industry that we
might be having to have butter and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Lambda hey, guys thanks very much for your. Time todd,
McLay minister Of agriculture And, Trade Kate Ackland share Of
beef And Lambney. Zealand we need to take a. Break
David seymour's turned. UP i don't have to worry about
him playing nicely With winston Because winston's gone. Chat we'll
chat to the Act leader And Deputy Prime minister after the.
Break you, yeah The County star eighteen away from. One
(28:05):
you're with The country live From Parliament lawns For National Lambday.
Barbecue i'm glad that you turned up at twelve forty
rather than twelve, twenty because OTHERWISE i would have had
to have put you on With winston and he had
his grumpy face on. Today are you two playing nicely
in the sand? Pit David?
Speaker 14 (28:22):
SEYMOUR i think THAT i was looking up the definition
of a fetish and it said such as the fixation
That jamie has On winston And david's. Relationship you're the
only person that asked, me but pretty good does the?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Answer? Okay did he play you awebit by taking The
Deputy prime ministership in the first eighteen. Months was it
flipp a corn or was it seniority?
Speaker 14 (28:46):
Rules, WELL i Mean actor as the larger, party but
the WAY i look at it hasn't made a big
difference either. Way there'll be people that will make both,
arguments but to be, honest it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Boring we've got we're not flying out till about six
point thirty, tonight and last year after The Lamb day,
barbecue the speeches have just. Started That's todd McLay in the.
Background if you can hear. IT i went into the
debating chamber for question time two. O'CLOCK i think it.
Is what was it worth us going in this afternoon
and having a?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Listen, well if you're trying to get rid of any
remaining belief in democracy that you, have this could.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Help.
Speaker 14 (29:27):
Well do you hear some of the questions from The
Labor party you, Think, GEE i don't know if democracy
is such a good.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Idea these people will get.
Speaker 14 (29:34):
To represent Some New, zealanders BUT i guess that's their
right and it's good that we do it for the
simple reason that it exposes really bad. Stuff you, know
If Vladimir pudin had to answer to question time every
day in an open parliament with a free, media it'd
be gone in a.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Heartbeat what do you make of THIS, fta The INDIAN,
FTA a lot of controversy around. It we've heard from
The Prime, Minister we've heard From, winston we heard From todd.
Maclay you're obviously supporting. It is it you're feeling That
labor will back. This surely they haven't really got a,
choice have.
Speaker 14 (30:10):
They, well The Labor, party for its many, foults has
a long tradition of supporting free trade In New, zealand
AND i certainly hope that they will continue. This there's
clearly people out there who are worried about, immigration and
there's people are specifically worried About indian. Immigration if that's your, view,
Fine but to attack the free trade agreement that opens
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up so much possibility For New zealand workers and businesses
and horticulture and, agriculture to attack that is crazy because
while there's been some pretty wild exaggerations out, there to
put it in, context compared with the number of visas
issued every, year this will change that by a couple of.
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Percent and, actually you know a lot of the people
that apply for visas that are mentioned in this trade.
Agreement are would have come on some other visa. Anyway
so it may it may make no difference why you
would decide to kill opportunities and possibility For New zealand
exporters because you're worried about one thing and this doesn't actually.
(31:14):
Connect it is beyond. Me but, hey look IT'S i
guess it's a good populous political. PLAY i don't think
it's going to solve a lot of.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Problems will you be eating lamb On Sunday National Lamb?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Day?
Speaker 14 (31:23):
Oh, mate lamb every day IF i. Could but we'll
have to see it's not always under my, control.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Okay David, Seamour, look thank you very much for your time.
Today i'll let you go and enjoy the speech AS
i know you love. Hanging are you making a speech
by the?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Way?
Speaker 14 (31:36):
Oh, look only if they need to clear the clear
that clear the. Deck there's a lot more people here
than WHEN i first started. Coming as often we'll start
a trend and there'd be a few bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Jumpers it's good to see. You wouldn't you come along
for a free? Lamb to see you here, Too, Jay
good to See David. Siema we're going to take a,
break par. Ol JOHN O pemberthin FROM Ag proud has
been my he's my Swinging interviewee SHOULD i MAYBE i
should rephrase that he's my, floater put it that, way
and we're going to have a chat to him after the.
Break who else HAVE i got to catch up? With
todd charterists From Rabobank Rowena duncan's running around here with
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THE fmg hat, on so hopefully she can Get todd for. Me,
yes here he. COMES i can see he's. Coming And Steve,
Abel Steve abel from The. Greens so we've got lots
to do between now and the end of the. Hour
we'll be back after the. Break here we fazzy lay
up on a.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Day, nay that's a bares.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Welcome back to the, country ten away from one wrapping
it On National lambday. Barbecue the speeches are just on
at the. Moment JOHN O pemberton's come all the way From.
Southland he's a dairy farmer down, there got out of
bed at three o'clock in the. Morning probably no hardship
for a dairy. Farmer But John, o you're WITH Ag,
proud you're the chair of Ag. Proud you guys are
instrumental in Getting National Lamb day up and. Running but
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what's the connection between A southland dairy farmer And Lamb?
Speaker 15 (32:53):
Day look, here, LOOK i guess He proud was sort
of in a position where we're just looking for reconnection
really and, LOOK i must give credit To ken McDonald
And pete. McDonald we're sit around having a one night
to how do we reconnect the town and country And
Lamb day sort of throwing out, there and then that
float on with Kadd ark right From beef And Lamb
(33:14):
ink and he's down duck shooting with sort of chewing
the fat one afternoon AND i sort of angled something
that might might help a bit more engagement with The
New zealand And beef And lamb and ask for a
date change From may To, february you, know bring back
to when the ship, left lines up with barbecues and
let's undershamably try and Copy australians leave.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It and this is just the beginning of the activity
For National Lamb, day which is On. Sunday you are A,
southlander you will be at the Y Mumu Field, days
The Southern Field days On friday as WELL i and
we might catch up again because you've got activity down
there as.
Speaker 16 (33:47):
Well, yeah, correct we've Got we've got barbecues in the
morning and Some argentinian style cockdol lamb getting out in the.
Afternoon so the engagement with the general, Public.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I'm going to catch you On. Friday looks very kind
of them to turn up here. Today i've been trying
to track them down for a. While Greens egg Spokesperson Steve, Abel,
NOW i don't normally Associate greens and being farmer. Friendly
tell Me i'm, Wrong, Steve, oh, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 17 (34:13):
Wrong.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
YEAH i, mean we need, Farming we need. Farmers in,
fact we probably need more farmers than we currently, do
and we need to do it in a way that's
viable for livelihoods of people in rural communities and viable
for the. Environment AND i believe as many farmers approving
that we can produce food and fiber in a way
that is sustainable and also look after our rivers and
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our precious native.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
SPECIES i hope to have you as a regular leading
into the. Election just to be fair about this one very,
quickly what is your agg what are your agg?
Speaker 7 (34:43):
CREDENTIALS i, MEAN i would say my primary credential AND
i sit on The Primary Production Select. Committee IS i
have an overarching view of the relationship between food production
and animal, farming particularly and the.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Environment my background Is i'm an.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Environmentalist like Most New, ZEALANDERS i have family donkey deep
in the agricultural, sector and you, know we have generations of.
It my mum was brought up on a, farm my
dad was worked for Dow ghetti's And halibi's and the.
Like So i'm acutely aware of the importance of the
cultural tradition of farming in our country and the importance
of it as a basis for livelihoods in our rural.
(35:22):
Sector one final point about today is THAT i think
it's notable that we mark this extraordinary day when we
exported the first refrigerated lamb in the eighteen. Nineties that
is the sort of innovation we need to be thinking
about going into the next. Century this is how we
make sure we have many for librands that are good
for the planet and good for.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
People there we, Go Steve. Abe we'll hear more from
him as we count down to The november five or
is it seven? Election, Anyhow we're going to take a
Break november. Seven we're going to wrap it with one
of the great supporters Of National Lamb, Day rabobank And
todd charteris welcome back to the, country wrapping it from
The National Lamb day barbecue On Parliament. Lawns got a great.
(36:03):
Day Todd charter is the chief executive Of. Rabobank will
be catching up with you. TOO i See bruce wear
to My murmu On fridays show lots Of National Lamb
day activity. There but You're, todd you must be. Wrapped
there's so many people here. Today this thing's growing. Yearly,
OH i.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Know, look it's.
Speaker 17 (36:20):
Great we're super proud to be involved in This jamie
and being there from the, start and it's great to
see the numbers. Swelling AND i think if we can
get it a bit broader through the wider, consumers just
get the awareness out, THERE i think it can go even.
Better so but it's great to be here and it's.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Awesome you're a farm boy at, heart absolutely love the.
Homekill any good on the, Knife, oh not too.
Speaker 17 (36:44):
Bad it's not too bad if it means if it's
a difference between me getting a feed of lamb Not
i'm very good at.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's my favorite, cut is THE i love the lamb.
Speaker 17 (36:51):
Rack it's just The, yeah, WELL i must have met
as a child going, up we didn't eat the lamb
rack because we had all the other bits. First but
of course we consume lamb wreckers, chops you, know for.
Chops but now it's, outstanding and now it's still a
treat And i'll be having another big meal of it
over the weekend to celebrate it proper on the.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Fifteenth, WELL i grew up on a farm as, well
and we used to do home call quite a bit,
actually and we used to chop the shanks off and
give them to the. Dogs can you believe? That it's?
Speaker 17 (37:19):
Unbelievable and the other, bits the flap you want to
try and roll, that that's quite.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Nice, yeah, yeah that's. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Hey, anyhow, hey, Listen i've got to go because we're
out of. Time AS i, say we'll be catching up
with More National Lamb day activity at Y. Mumu we'll
be broadcasting from the rabobank. Site we'll catch up with
Bruce ware lots of activity happening down. There that wraps
it for. Today the speeches are still going here On Parliament,
lawn And i'm HOPING i can get a lamb shop
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myself BEFORE i go To. Parliament we'll catch you back.
Tomorrow go.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good A, New Zealand and welcome to the Country Special
ob Today we are broadcasting from Parliament Lawns. You can't
beat Wellington on a good day. It's the National Lamb
Day barbecue and we've got all sorts of political celebrities,
plus Grant McCullum hanging around in case some of them
don't turn up. Christopher Luxon's running awee bit late. Chris
Hipkins will be here shortly. I will also be talking
(00:50):
to David Seymour and Winston. I don't think we'll be
doing that at the same time. I don't know if
they play that well together. And Steve Abel's going to
make an appearance from mcgreen's. But kicking off the show
in the absence of the Prime Minister is a former
National Party minister, former Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy,
who was wearing his Meat Industry Association hat today because
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the Meat Industry Association, along with Beef and Lamb New
Zealand are putting on this National Lamb Day barbecue. Good afternoon, Nathan,
and good to catch you for a bear and Wellington
last night it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Was great, Jamie. It's surprising how you bump into oh
late at night in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well it is. And I did a bit at fair
bit of celebrity spotting on the way here. I was
sitting behind Dane Cole's on the plane and engaged and
bought him a wee bit about rugby. Of course he
was down looking at Jamie. Joseph yes, and I think
he's off to Japan to have a look at Dave Rennie.
And then I get out to the uber rank at
Wellington Airport and they've changed it since last time I
(01:47):
was here, so I sort of yelled out to anyone
who would listen, where's the uber rank? And this bloke
gets out of a car and says it's over there,
and I say, oh, hello you and Chatfield lovely to Mootshoe.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So there you go, such a name dropper.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I am a name dropper and I saw you. Stuart
Todd McLay of the Federated Farmers Boys were all in
back benches last night with a rumor running rife and
We're going to have to deal with this one today.
Wayne Langford, potential Labor Party candidate for Tasman West Coast. Wow,
off the press, Off the press, but let's get onto
your job.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Wow. Shit.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I wonder if Wayne will be in a blue car
or a red car on the West Coast'd be interesting
to see.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We will watch that space. Indeed, look this. We were
celebrating a National Lamb Day on Sunday, one hundred and
forty four years since the good Ship Dunedin left for
Port Charmers. They had over five thousand carcasses and they
actually had some two hundred and forty six kegs a butter.
So not only was it the birth of our frozen
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meat industry, it was almost the birth of our export
dairy industry as well. And that ninety eight days at
sea when they got their only one carcass was unfit for.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Sale, isn't that amazing? That was the of what we're
celebrating today. That first shipment really got us into gear
in the UK and as a result of that, we're
celebrating one hundred and forty four years of a magnificent product,
the best in the world, and that is our Lamb
I'm so excited about today. I'm really looking forward to
(03:17):
tasting a beautiful lamb shop. Celebrate our farmers, celebrate our processes.
When you think about the processes that I represent, we
have to deal with such a lot geopolitical issues, exchange
rate fluctuations, there's numerous issues, domestic policies. I see Chris
Hopkins is here, so that's going to be an interesting
(03:39):
take to hear from him and what the opposition parties
are thinking coming into the election. We're working on our
own election manifesto on bred behalf of the red meat
sector to make sure that when politicians are thinking about
their policies that they're cognizant of the fact that we
are the biggest manufacturing industry in New Zealand, thousand jobs
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when you think about direct and indirect and twelve billion
dollars of exports.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I want to give a bit of a pat
on the back to the meat industry suppliers who are
putting on the lamb shops, lam wrecks hopefully today. The
Alliance Group ansco Ovation and Greenley, so they're all supporting
this day.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yes they are, and others are supporting other initiatives up
and down the country. Why mumou you alluded to happening
down south. There's other localized events happening. This is really
a day of celebrating success.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Absolutely, Hey, just before I let get Chris Hipkins on.
Very good of them to turn up for the prime
Minister's not here yet, so maybe it could be the
next prime minister. But bipartisan politics is important and I'll
be really interested to hear what Chris Hipkins has to
say about this India Free Trade deal because there seems
to be a lot of controversy about it at the moment.
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I'm hoping, and I don't know whether I'll nod his
head or not, that Labor will support this. I'm sure
they will.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My view is that labor will support it. It will
pass with a majority. Yes, there'll be one or two
political parties that might kick up, but let's be clear.
We're five million people here. We export around the world.
India is a massive market, one point five billion potential population.
We've been battling against the thirty percent tariff for lamb
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into India and it's a market that could be really big.
This could be like China was to us when we
started off small steps, but massive to the New Zealand
economy and to our farmers and processes. So my plea
to all politicians is get behind the FDA, bang it
through the Parliament so that we can try and get
(05:44):
ahead of the European settling there is because they've got
a better wine deal than we have, so we need
to move fast.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, there we go, Nathan Guide, chair of the Meat
Industry Association. Let's get would be prime minister if to
believe the polls will be will be. He's saying, Chrisip Can,
Chris Chippy, thank you very much for coming along. I'm
going to start with that India free trade agreement. You've
got a history or we have got a history of
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bipartisan politics when it comes to our free trade agreements.
Is it a done deal that you guys will support this?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Well, First of all, Jamie, I have a complaint for
you. You made us walk past the barbecue where they're cooking
very very nice smelling lamb in order to in.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Order to come and speak to you.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
But I'll do my best. Look on the free trade
agreement with India. The government actually haven't formally asked us
for our support at this point, but we're taking it
from their public comments that they would quite like that.
I think there's been an absolutely botched process by the
government where they've just failed to deliver good government. The
fact that they can't get their own side to support it,
(06:48):
I think is an indictment on them. I'm trying to
be the adult in the room here though. Free trade
is good for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We rely on it.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
You know, we're here today on Lamb Day where we
celebrate the contribution that refrigeration has made to us as
a trading nation. You know, it is so important to
us as a country. I think the government have done
some things in this trade agreement which do need scrutiny.
Some of the immigration provisions, add some of the investment
provisions and it do need to be properly scrutinized. Increased
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quota access that's great, removal of tariffs that's great. The
labor parties fully in support of those things. So you
know we're working through that with the government now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
The Prime Minister and Todd mclays singing from the same
hymn sheet on this one.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
I just think they're being too tricky. They should just
be upfront with people. No there isn't an ability in
the agreement to cap the number of international students coming
from India, but to do so would be discriminatory in
a way that we've never done before as a country anyway,
So they, rather than just being cute with the truth,
just be upfront with New Zealander is about it. Tell
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them what's in the agreement and tell them why you've
agreed to that. I think the problem is they've been
trying to put a positive spin on it rather than
just being upfront about what's in it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Okay, I've got a text in here from a good
West Coaster Katie Milon, former president of Federated Farmers. Don't
forget and most of India cows are sacred and are
only milked for protein. A lamb has huge opportunities. So
we all agree on that one. Not talking about the
West Coast backbenches last night, Chris, because you've let the
Southland boy loosen the big town. It's a bit of
a knees up for us, a bit quite exciting to
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come to the big smoke. Rumors were rife that Wayne Langford,
current president of Federated Farmers, is going to be standing
for labor and Damien's old seat West Coast Tasman. Can
you confirm or deny.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
If you want to, you know, cast those potential aspersions
on Wayne. I don't view them as suspersions, but he might.
Then maybe you should raise those with him, But we
don't comment on the nominating process for electorate seats until
candidates of him.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He would I'm unaware of his political allegiance, but someone
like him with genuine agg cred would be good for you,
Because you don't mind me saying so you lack it.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Oh well, We've got a very broad range of people
putting their names for it to be labor candidates at
the forthcoming election. I'm really excited about that, and it
is people. I think. I've got many people coming from
backgrounds that you wouldn't normally associate, you know, as potential
labor candidates. There's people from rural communities and farming backgrounds.
We've got people from business backgrounds. We've got people from
sort of law and ordinary type for backgrounds. Those aren't
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necessarily people you'd expect to see putting their names for
for labor traditionally. I think that's a really healthy sign
that we're getting those that interest.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Chris Hipkins, thank you so much for coming along and
gracing us with your presence. You can go and have
a lamb rack now. I don't know where the Prime
Minister is, but we've got a cast of thousands to
chat to before the end of the hour, including David
Seymour and Winston Peters. Can I put those two on
air together? Probably not, eh.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I think they struggled to sit around the cabinet table
together from what I've seen.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But I'll get a bit of separation.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Maybe maybe you can, you know, sort of ask them,
you know, ask them why they can't work more constructively together,
you know, take something like the free trade agreement with India. Really,
the situation that I'm in now, I shouldn't be, you know,
I shouldn't be the government coming Kevin hand to the opposition.
The government should have sorted this all out a long
time ago and they haven't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, Hey, got to go, Thanks for your time. You
enjoy a lamb wreck. It is the National Lamb Day
Barbecue on Parliament launch. You just cannot beat Wellington on
a good day, and we've got a great day to
day in Wellington. John O. Pembden's from ag proud there
right behind National Lamb Day. We've got Kate Ackland from
Beef and Lamb New Zealand. Todd charter Is from Rabobank.
(10:32):
David Seymour, Winston Peters and Steve Abel were looking forward
to meeting him, the Greens Egg spokesperson all coming up
before the end of the hour. It is seventeen after twelve.
We'll be back after the break.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Good Lord m for me, I'm a double shadow Weston
then on me.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Ja downscay Estu.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
There's a party downtown.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You fishly welcome back to the country. Brought to you
by Farmlands and I Susu, our new partners for twenty
twenty six. Here's a man who's going to have an
interesting twenty twenty six. New Zealand first Leader, former Deputy
Prime Minister Winston Peters, thank you very much for coming along.
Now we've already spoken to Chris Hipkins. He said he
is going to have to be the grown up in
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the room over the Indian FTA. You're taking a bit
of heat for.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
This, No, I'm not quite the converse.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
As each day goes by, people begin to understand that
if you have a contact, maybe it pays to have
a legal mind to be able to understand what it means.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That's where I've got the edge on some of these people.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Now, are we getting mixed messaging from the Prime Minister?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
V told McLay, Oh, look, you have to ask them
about that.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I'm just saying what I know and what I've learned,
and everything that I've said is confirmed by a goal
the equivalent Trade Minister in India and the Prime Minister
of India Modi. They're confirming exactly every think I've said.
Time will co come by. I can tell you one
numbercent certain you'll find out who's right and who's wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
This is all about immigration as far as you're concerned.
It's got nothing to do with the free trade agreement,
right Holid.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
When you say that we got nine three percent access
to their markets on things we don't sell, what does
that mean? And I look at the Australian market when
the suspect of some things they're saying, and I look
at that lack of progress that the Indian's free cred
deal with Australia has bred when it comes to some
things we're promising people about now. So I'm saying to
the Farming Committee, maybe for the first time for a
long time. Start listening and paying attention because your future
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depends upon this.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, the National are saying that they can effectively cap
student Jesus under disagreement. You obviously disagree.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
No, I don't disagree the document does the document mentions uncapped? Now?
How clear can you be? Who said that? As well?
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Mody said that the Goal has said that, well, they
published India says that, So why are you hearing one
thing when the facts and documentation are something else. I'm
not an argument here. I just wanted to say to people.
I was alerted when I first saw it, and I
became concerned as to where this was going. And I
expressed rightly my concerns because I still believe that we
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can make mess progress with India on things like farming
and milk.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Because they need our help.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Definitely, but they don't need a they don't need a
dairy deal.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Or no, no, you say, do they look?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
I said to them, and I wasn't getting I didn't
have enough time to spend with some of them, but
I said, you will need thirty five percent more food
in the next thirty years, and you can't no chance
of getting there without you got a dramatic lift in
your own production.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
We can help you.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Seriously, But those sorts of debates and approaches take time
to bed in.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So what do you say to the people who say
that if we didn't sign up when we signed it,
that we would have to wait years to get another
crack at it?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
But what do you Well, my question is sign what?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well? The free trade Agreement?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yes, so what does it mean? What does it mean?
What are you signing up to take on nine hard
Look at that? Do you know that twenty thousand plus
will be coming right? And they bring their parents, bring
their children and stay here for three years after they've graduated.
All this is in in that documentation that surrounds it.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Did you know that? Well, if you didn't, why did
you make a decision that was a good idea?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Then? Okay, just quickly, because I need to let you
go and have a lamb shop. I want to ask
you about and I know you don't comment on polls,
but I do want to ask you about the scenario.
Look at that smile. The scenario of to party Murray
maybe only winning one or two seats instead of all
the Maori seats. Surely that would spell the end for
a for a left leaning coalition.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
In my first speech in twenty twenty three after the
twenty three three election, I said the Murray Party were finished.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Did you remember that?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I can't remember what I had.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
From twenty two for a look and see who you was?
They finished? Finished and take him us for that.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, there's no way past the winning finishing post for
Chippey without to party.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Maury, Well, that's his problem.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Remember if you want to go with the racist, he
wants to go with a bunch of communists in the
Green Party.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That's his problem.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
But this is election about real politic and the change
is having you in polics few months will be dramatic.
Stand back and watch. The good news is I'll still
come on your program. Just both the fact there's some
of your farmas either wake up right here, right now.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Al right here, I'll let you go and have a
lamb shop Winston Peters or we got the boss here
as well. I might get see what his view is
on the Indian Free Trade Agreement, Christopher Luxen, And I'm
pleased to see he hasn't. Just as he comes in
there you friendly shake of the hands with his former
deputy Prime Minister. All right, so he softened me up.
(15:30):
He's told me the real truth Prime Minister about the
Indian Free Trade Agreement. And well done for not putting
your National Lamb Day T shirt over your suit.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
I have just jumped off a plane. I have raced
through this building to get to you today. I chucked
the T shirt on.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
While I was walking. I managed to knock this.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
You have put it over the top of the suit coat,
which is a major achievement because it was a fashion
faux part. But I put a lot of attention on
National Lambday. I thought last year there were two things
that I think drove National Lambday last year. One was
me wearing a T shirt over the top of my
suit because I had to go straight back to Parliament.
And the second thing was you came here and very
respectfully pete and the bushes and oh no, I know, yeah,
I don't think you've done that this year.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, no, no, I haven't. I obviously haven't had enough
coffee this morning. I had a bit of a night
on the town last night in Wellington. Did you got
to oh well, interestingly at backbench, yeah, Federated Farmers turned
up and drove so they were all there and the
rumor running rife. He's around here somewhere. I've got to
ask him, is that Wayne Langford the president is going
(16:27):
to stand for labor in West Coast Tasman. Have you
heard that rumor?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I haven't heard that at all.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, that was the one doing the rounds last night.
So we won't let the truth get in the way
of a good story. So Winston has kind of said,
you're telling porkies on student visas and we're going to
get twenty thousand Indians in here. This is all about immigration.
It's not about free trade as far as he's concerned.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
Oh look, I mean what it is about free trade.
It's actually about New Zealand getting in on the ground
floor with a growing economy that's going to be moving
increasingly into the middle class. That's got huge demand for
New Zealand's products and services, including lamb and read meat
and other things. So, you know, once it's had a
long standing policy of opposing for evad agreements. You know,
we saw that with the China FTA. We've seen it
now at the Indian FTA. Frankly, he's wrong. I respect him,
(17:14):
but he's just wrong and he's entitled to his point
of view. He's got a different point of view. But
I can tell you from our end. You know, we've
done an outstanding deal. And as you've seen even the
European deal come through, you've seen others in recent periods.
The fact that we're in there early with the Indians
is fantastic. And let's just fast forward five, ten, fifteen,
twenty years from now. You can't tell me, with the
(17:35):
biggest population in the world, the third biggest economy, one
of the fast the fastest growing G twenty economy in
the world, that us being well positioned with the Indians
is a good thing for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What do you make Because I've got lots of people
to chat to. Final question for you, and I threw
this one at Winston, who had a sort of grumpy
face on that. How do you get on arguing with
him when he's got his grumpy face on?
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Oh, look, we have some robust conversations, but that's what
you'd expect. Actually, it's part of the good sport. But
as but no, look, I mean, as you've seen. You know,
we have differences, you know, and that's okay in an
MMP environment where you put three parties together. That's the
electoral system New Zealand's voted for time and time again.
You go to election night, you then chance to form
a government and to try and make it work. And
(18:17):
doesn't mean we agree on everything, but actually we agree
on the important stuff and we agree with there's common
ground on you know, the core agenda of this government.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Okay, Well my question to him was, and I'll throw
it at you for to believe the polls. Maybe if
to party Marie only win one or two seats, does
that spell the end of a labor led coalition?
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Well, I think what's going to spell the end of
any labor prospects of government as a capital gains tax.
And then you heard him constanding there beside Chloe Swarbrick
not ruling out eighty billion dollars worth a new taxes
on wealth taxes and trust taxes and death taxes and
every other sort of tax. So you know that's not
what New Zealand needs right now. We've we've worked damn
hard over the last two years to get this recovery
in place, and you're going to snuff it out in
(18:55):
a heartbeat by doing that. I'm telling it immediately, so
you know, frankly, their policies are wrong. They're going to
they're going to spend more like they did last time,
wasteful spending. They're going to tax more, and they're going
to borrow a hell.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Of a lot more.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, Prime, honestly, thanks so much for your time on it.
You have a lamb shop and we'll see you and
Gore or why moo on.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
We start looking forward to that, mate.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's great, that's stay out of the bushes, please down here, Jamie. Well, well,
if they would open Parliament up and let us have
a pee in the building, it's probably a bit like
on occasions. There we go. That was last year, that
was so twenty twenty five. We're going to take a
break on the other side of it. I see Kate
Ackland is here from Beef and Lamb. Todd mcclay's here
(19:33):
as well. We've got so many people to chat to
before the end of the hour and I just want
to get in a bit of a plug. Yes you're
back again. Oh you're taking a photo.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Your people have told my people have to have a photo.
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Sunday back to, You Jamie, Wellington.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah thank, You Mark kelly producing the show out of
Our auckland, Studios Michelle Watter course and Our dunedin. Studios
And i'm On Parliament lawn for The National Lamb Day
barbecue which is being supported by The Meat Industry. Association
we've heard from the Chair Nathan, guy Former minister For
Primary industries and of course beef and Lamb New. Zealand
And i'll start with, You. Katekland this is a wonderful.
(22:47):
Initiative everyone's lining up for a lamb. Chop.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
Oh, look this is absolutely the best day of the.
Year and you know we've got politicians from across the
house here because one thing everyone has in common is
everybody loves a good lamb.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Chop yeah they. Do it's. Interest well here's one who's
just wandered in, uninvited but he's very much the man
of the. MOMENT i think we were in the same
restaurant last, night BUT i wasn't in THE vip. Area tod,
McClay minister Of agriculture And. Trade BUT i did spy
walking out of the said same Restaurant Stuart. Nash what
(23:21):
was he up?
Speaker 13 (23:22):
TO i didn't have a chance to talk to. Him
but that's a great Restaurant portland is you get some
of the best beef anywhere In New. Zealand there a
lot of providers the meat. INDUSTRY i asked him who
beef it. Was there was a fight going. On it
was so good for good they all wanted to claim.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It. WELL i want to get a plug in for
The Alliance, group Ansco ovation And greenley who are providing
all the lamb here today For National Lamb. Day now
what do you make of this rumor That i've, started in,
fact that started in back benches last night with THE,
feds That Wayne langford he's around here. SOMEWHERE i might
get him on here to answer this. One it's going
(23:56):
to stand For labor And West coast testment.
Speaker 13 (23:59):
That that would be the best thing that could happen
to labour because he is so sensible and would make them.
Sensible But wayne is a sensible, Man SO i reckon
there's no truth to that.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Rumor, Ok Kate Acklund or you've got your feet under
the table now as chair Of beef And Lamb New,
zealand are you being wooed by political?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
PARTIES i still ought quite a bit to do, Here,
jamie so not going anywhere Near wellington for a while
other than As beef And lamb.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Cheer you've chosen a good time to be chair Of
beef And Lamb New zealand because we have record red meat.
Prices he doesn't get any better Well Wi todd gets
HIS fda across the line With.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
India, look, absolutely it's a great time to be a
farmer and we've got really strong prices at the. Moment
but two years ago things were very, different and you,
know we've got to celebrate the resilience of our, farmers
especially on a day Like National Lamb, day that farmers
have continued to produce world class protein through the tough
times and continue to innovate and try and do it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Better so you're from a sheep and beef farm and
you've got a dairy operation as. Well when it comes to,
lamb it'll all be homekill at your, place is.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It we don't need a lot of.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Homekill it all goes to the.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well you can't afford to eat the home cill what's
your favorite? Cut mine's the lamb wreck, ARM a, shoulder a,
shoulder front, Shoulder.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
Yeah absolutely love a shoulder actually.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Front, shoulder bones and. Stuffed how about that on the?
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Barbecue?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah todd, McLay what's your favorite cut of?
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Lamb it'll be a lamb chop and if you don't
mind where it comes, From. Jamie this is a third
year we've hosted In. Parliament the first year was a bit.
Rainy last year people came along, positively but we got
it wrong that first. Year there are only. Sausages now
if you come To parliament you're like everyone. Else in
Rural New. Zealand you got to pick up a bit
of lamb with your fingers and enjoy.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
It.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Absolutely just on Your indian getting annoyed by texts coming.
THROUGH i need to concentrate on one. Thing. Focus you're
In INDIAN. Fta winston had his grumpy face on when
he was talking to me about. That, yeah, look there
was always going to be a bit of.
Speaker 13 (25:58):
Politics it didn't surprise me because it's a very very big, Deal.
Jamie one point four billion, people we're five. Million we
did very well out of. This you, know early indicasions
Are we've done as, well probably better than The European.
Union they are bigger and wealthier than we. Are who
knows What india has just done with THE, us BUT
i back ound. Negotiators it is better than The australia
(26:21):
deal and it is as simple as. This every party
and partner will have to decide for themselves where they
want to back Rural New zealand and all exporters and
support this, deal and if, not they should make the
case for the reason. Not BUT i want to be
really really clear to sheep farmers. Today on day, one
your tariff rate goes from thirty three percent to. Zero
you will sell as much lamb there as you can
(26:43):
and there are there are five hundred million people that
will eat. It this is a very good trade. Deal
it has nothing at all to do with.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Migration, yea what do you, Say, KATE i, Say Bogo
winston on. THIS i think he's just, posturing he's.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Grandstanding, look WHAT i think we need to remember is
the success of this three is built on. Trade and
actually that's What National lambday is all. About its celebrating
that entrepreneurial, spirit that candor attitude of those guys who
got that first shipment of lamb together and that was
there lay the groundwork for a multi billion dollar industry
that Every New zealander is better off. For and so you,
know trade is at the very core of what we.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Do, hey did you, realize just by way of useless
information on repeating WHAT i said at the top of the,
hour there was over five thousand carcasses that went on
The Dunedin one one got, spored but there was also
two hundred and forty six kegs of. Butter so that's
sort of the birth of our export dairy industry as.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Well oh, well don't tell the dairy industry that we
might be having to have butter and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Lambda hey, guys thanks very much for your. Time todd,
McLay minister Of agriculture And, Trade Kate Ackland share Of
beef And Lambney. Zealand we need to take a. Break
David seymour's turned. UP i don't have to worry about
him playing nicely With winston Because winston's gone. Chat we'll
chat to the Act leader And Deputy Prime minister after the.
Break you, yeah The County star eighteen away from. One
(28:05):
you're with The country live From Parliament lawns For National Lambday.
Barbecue i'm glad that you turned up at twelve forty
rather than twelve, twenty because OTHERWISE i would have had
to have put you on With winston and he had
his grumpy face on. Today are you two playing nicely
in the sand? Pit David?
Speaker 14 (28:22):
SEYMOUR i think THAT i was looking up the definition
of a fetish and it said such as the fixation
That jamie has On winston And david's. Relationship you're the
only person that asked, me but pretty good does the?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Answer? Okay did he play you awebit by taking The
Deputy prime ministership in the first eighteen. Months was it
flipp a corn or was it seniority?
Speaker 14 (28:46):
Rules, WELL i Mean actor as the larger, party but
the WAY i look at it hasn't made a big
difference either. Way there'll be people that will make both,
arguments but to be, honest it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Boring we've got we're not flying out till about six
point thirty, tonight and last year after The Lamb day,
barbecue the speeches have just. Started That's todd McLay in the.
Background if you can hear. IT i went into the
debating chamber for question time two. O'CLOCK i think it.
Is what was it worth us going in this afternoon
and having a?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Listen, well if you're trying to get rid of any
remaining belief in democracy that you, have this could.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Help.
Speaker 14 (29:27):
Well do you hear some of the questions from The
Labor party you, Think, GEE i don't know if democracy
is such a good.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Idea these people will get.
Speaker 14 (29:34):
To represent Some New, zealanders BUT i guess that's their
right and it's good that we do it for the
simple reason that it exposes really bad. Stuff you, know
If Vladimir pudin had to answer to question time every
day in an open parliament with a free, media it'd
be gone in a.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Heartbeat what do you make of THIS, fta The INDIAN,
FTA a lot of controversy around. It we've heard from
The Prime, Minister we've heard From, winston we heard From todd.
Maclay you're obviously supporting. It is it you're feeling That
labor will back. This surely they haven't really got a,
choice have.
Speaker 14 (30:10):
They, well The Labor, party for its many, foults has
a long tradition of supporting free trade In New, zealand
AND i certainly hope that they will continue. This there's
clearly people out there who are worried about, immigration and
there's people are specifically worried About indian. Immigration if that's your, view,
Fine but to attack the free trade agreement that opens
(30:32):
up so much possibility For New zealand workers and businesses
and horticulture and, agriculture to attack that is crazy because
while there's been some pretty wild exaggerations out, there to
put it in, context compared with the number of visas
issued every, year this will change that by a couple of.
(30:53):
Percent and, actually you know a lot of the people
that apply for visas that are mentioned in this trade.
Agreement are would have come on some other visa. Anyway
so it may it may make no difference why you
would decide to kill opportunities and possibility For New zealand
exporters because you're worried about one thing and this doesn't actually.
(31:14):
Connect it is beyond. Me but, hey look IT'S i
guess it's a good populous political. PLAY i don't think
it's going to solve a lot of.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Problems will you be eating lamb On Sunday National Lamb?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Day?
Speaker 14 (31:23):
Oh, mate lamb every day IF i. Could but we'll
have to see it's not always under my, control.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Okay David, Seamour, look thank you very much for your time.
Today i'll let you go and enjoy the speech AS
i know you love. Hanging are you making a speech
by the?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Way?
Speaker 14 (31:36):
Oh, look only if they need to clear the clear
that clear the. Deck there's a lot more people here
than WHEN i first started. Coming as often we'll start
a trend and there'd be a few bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Jumpers it's good to see. You wouldn't you come along
for a free? Lamb to see you here, Too, Jay
good to See David. Siema we're going to take a,
break par. Ol JOHN O pemberthin FROM Ag proud has
been my he's my Swinging interviewee SHOULD i MAYBE i
should rephrase that he's my, floater put it that, way
and we're going to have a chat to him after the.
Break who else HAVE i got to catch up? With
todd charterists From Rabobank Rowena duncan's running around here with
(32:09):
THE fmg hat, on so hopefully she can Get todd for. Me,
yes here he. COMES i can see he's. Coming And Steve,
Abel Steve abel from The. Greens so we've got lots
to do between now and the end of the. Hour
we'll be back after the. Break here we fazzy lay
up on a.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Day, nay that's a bares.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Welcome back to the, country ten away from one wrapping
it On National lambday. Barbecue the speeches are just on
at the. Moment JOHN O pemberton's come all the way From.
Southland he's a dairy farmer down, there got out of
bed at three o'clock in the. Morning probably no hardship
for a dairy. Farmer But John, o you're WITH Ag,
proud you're the chair of Ag. Proud you guys are
instrumental in Getting National Lamb day up and. Running but
(32:49):
what's the connection between A southland dairy farmer And Lamb?
Speaker 15 (32:53):
Day look, here, LOOK i guess He proud was sort
of in a position where we're just looking for reconnection
really and, LOOK i must give credit To ken McDonald
And pete. McDonald we're sit around having a one night
to how do we reconnect the town and country And
Lamb day sort of throwing out, there and then that
float on with Kadd ark right From beef And Lamb
(33:14):
ink and he's down duck shooting with sort of chewing
the fat one afternoon AND i sort of angled something
that might might help a bit more engagement with The
New zealand And beef And lamb and ask for a
date change From may To, february you, know bring back
to when the ship, left lines up with barbecues and
let's undershamably try and Copy australians leave.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It and this is just the beginning of the activity
For National Lamb, day which is On. Sunday you are A,
southlander you will be at the Y Mumu Field, days
The Southern Field days On friday as WELL i and
we might catch up again because you've got activity down
there as.
Speaker 16 (33:47):
Well, yeah, correct we've Got we've got barbecues in the
morning and Some argentinian style cockdol lamb getting out in the.
Afternoon so the engagement with the general, Public.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I'm going to catch you On. Friday looks very kind
of them to turn up here. Today i've been trying
to track them down for a. While Greens egg Spokesperson Steve, Abel,
NOW i don't normally Associate greens and being farmer. Friendly
tell Me i'm, Wrong, Steve, oh, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 17 (34:13):
Wrong.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
YEAH i, mean we need, Farming we need. Farmers in,
fact we probably need more farmers than we currently, do
and we need to do it in a way that's
viable for livelihoods of people in rural communities and viable
for the. Environment AND i believe as many farmers approving
that we can produce food and fiber in a way
that is sustainable and also look after our rivers and
(34:35):
our precious native.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
SPECIES i hope to have you as a regular leading
into the. Election just to be fair about this one very,
quickly what is your agg what are your agg?
Speaker 7 (34:43):
CREDENTIALS i, MEAN i would say my primary credential AND
i sit on The Primary Production Select. Committee IS i
have an overarching view of the relationship between food production
and animal, farming particularly and the.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Environment my background Is i'm an.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Environmentalist like Most New, ZEALANDERS i have family donkey deep
in the agricultural, sector and you, know we have generations of.
It my mum was brought up on a, farm my
dad was worked for Dow ghetti's And halibi's and the.
Like So i'm acutely aware of the importance of the
cultural tradition of farming in our country and the importance
of it as a basis for livelihoods in our rural.
(35:22):
Sector one final point about today is THAT i think
it's notable that we mark this extraordinary day when we
exported the first refrigerated lamb in the eighteen. Nineties that
is the sort of innovation we need to be thinking
about going into the next. Century this is how we
make sure we have many for librands that are good
for the planet and good for.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
People there we, Go Steve. Abe we'll hear more from
him as we count down to The november five or
is it seven? Election, Anyhow we're going to take a
Break november. Seven we're going to wrap it with one
of the great supporters Of National Lamb, Day rabobank And
todd charteris welcome back to the, country wrapping it from
The National Lamb day barbecue On Parliament. Lawns got a great.
(36:03):
Day Todd charter is the chief executive Of. Rabobank will
be catching up with you. TOO i See bruce wear
to My murmu On fridays show lots Of National Lamb
day activity. There but You're, todd you must be. Wrapped
there's so many people here. Today this thing's growing. Yearly,
OH i.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Know, look it's.
Speaker 17 (36:20):
Great we're super proud to be involved in This jamie
and being there from the, start and it's great to
see the numbers. Swelling AND i think if we can
get it a bit broader through the wider, consumers just
get the awareness out, THERE i think it can go even.
Better so but it's great to be here and it's.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Awesome you're a farm boy at, heart absolutely love the.
Homekill any good on the, Knife, oh not too.
Speaker 17 (36:44):
Bad it's not too bad if it means if it's
a difference between me getting a feed of lamb Not
i'm very good at.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's my favorite, cut is THE i love the lamb.
Speaker 17 (36:51):
Rack it's just The, yeah, WELL i must have met
as a child going, up we didn't eat the lamb
rack because we had all the other bits. First but
of course we consume lamb wreckers, chops you, know for.
Chops but now it's, outstanding and now it's still a
treat And i'll be having another big meal of it
over the weekend to celebrate it proper on the.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Fifteenth, WELL i grew up on a farm as, well
and we used to do home call quite a bit,
actually and we used to chop the shanks off and
give them to the. Dogs can you believe? That it's?
Speaker 17 (37:19):
Unbelievable and the other, bits the flap you want to
try and roll, that that's quite.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Nice, yeah, yeah that's. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Hey, anyhow, hey, Listen i've got to go because we're
out of. Time AS i, say we'll be catching up
with More National Lamb day activity at Y. Mumu we'll
be broadcasting from the rabobank. Site we'll catch up with
Bruce ware lots of activity happening down. There that wraps
it for. Today the speeches are still going here On Parliament,
lawn And i'm HOPING i can get a lamb shop
(37:45):
myself BEFORE i go To. Parliament we'll catch you back.
Tomorrow go.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
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