January 13, 2026 • 38 mins
Hamish McKay talks to Hamish Marr, Stefan Vogel, Tracy Brown, and Eden Carson.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The country with Hamish mguy and Farmland's advice you can
trust products you can count.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On coming out to eight minutes after midday on the country.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Bit of purple rain from Prince, Wasn't the man just
an absolute genius? And of course with the well with
the heck TV show or online show Stranger Things, Prince
Prince songs are going nuts, downloading quicker than a full wall.
You out the Simon gosp porthole. There you go. Ye,
(00:51):
fantastic to see the country. Welcome in Hamish mcguy and
for Jamie mguy, how's your wingsday going spectacular? I hope you.
I mean you might be still lucky enough to be
swinging on your fishing rod, or maybe you're swinging on
a hand piece, or you know, you might be on
the end of a paintbrush getting your tarting. Your property
up ready for sale, mister Billinghurst of Millson Line. Eh,
(01:14):
I hope you're all ready to go. You've got the
top agent on the job. Hey, good to see tractor sales.
We're up in twenty twenty five. Heard that on the news.
That's good spending a bit of money. Farmers have been
pretty sensible over the last couple of years, haven't we
paying down a bit of debt? But now it's not
you know, probably not a bad time to have a
little bit of a splash out. Coming up on the show.
(01:35):
First up, we'll talk to Hamish Mark Catergory, horrible farmer,
one of three Hamishes in the world, apparently me and him,
the two out of three special trade endal. Of course,
his role with that came to end on January, the
first Nathan guy taking over there. But what were Hamous's
highlights of his time in that role. Ravo Research GM
(01:58):
Stefan Vogel out Sydney looks at the impact of the
weight loss injections on buyer trends at supermarkets and it's huge.
You've got thirty million Americans jabbing themselves in the tummy
to drop a few kilos. This is fascinating stuff. Tracy
Brown derrigain Z Chair, the Levy vote is coming up
(02:19):
between February and March, Farmers, you have your opportunity to
have you say. If you don't, you can't complain. Looking
forward to catching up with Tracy, and we catch up
with the cricketer and one of money to those finest
Eagen Cast and also on the show. But first up
a man as busy as ever the country on your Wednesday,
(02:46):
Hamish Mackay, And for Jamie Mackay, great to have your
company wherever you are, whatever you might be doing right
across this wonderful land of ours. Well, of course Hamish
mar finished up as our special trade and voyeurs of
the start this year, handing over the rains too hot
a fen I was fine. It's mister Nathan guy. And
of course Hamers Canterbory arable farmer joins us. Now hamersh
(03:09):
happy new year, house things started for you in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, happy new year to you, Hamish. Things have started
out pretty well. We've done we've done a little bit
of harvest. We've got plenty more to do. Big rain
coming at the weekend. We're not very excited about that,
but anyway we'll deal with it when it comes.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But heavier than the myths that would be okay, I understand.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Well this is the thing, right, You can't please a
farmer and everyone knows that this time of year the
arable farmers like me want hot and dry. But the
other half their operation, which is dairy, doesn't mind the rain.
So we've got foot in each camp and that's just
where farming's at too.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, absolutely it is. So how are you fining? You've
got a bit of extra time on your plate now,
and I guess that's gonna be not that you've got
a busy enough operation. I mean, I'm not saying the
year you're not plad out, but I guess now that
you're not involved as the special trade end Boy, how's
that going to change your life in twenty six?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Oh well, it'll probably just changed my focus a little
bit back to what we were doing before. Who knows
what the future holes and terms of roles and some pieces.
But just at the moment, Hamish, it's get our harvest
out of the way and then we'll see what happens
after that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, what are your best memories of the last few years?
What sort of what do you look back on most proudly?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Ah Hamoush For out doubt, it's when I ask what
people's images of New Zealand are, and they every country
I visited, in every meeting I went to the feedback
that New Zealand is the prettiest place on earth. That
the people that we deal with from New Zealand or
New Zealanders are particularly good people. We're very trusted withth
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we're very honest, and the product that we send offshore
as a reflection of all of those things. And when
you hear the time and time again, you know, you
get that goosebump feeling every time. Very very proud to
be in New Zealand and a New Zealand farmer.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, yep, Oh that's great, isn't it? Prettiest place? New
Zealand is good people, great product and are fantastic. Where
did you enjoy going the most? Who are the who
are the best sort of contacts you made? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Look, I made great contacts everywhere Hamish and I don't
know that I could name one place. I found every
place interesting. I think if I well, China and India,
probably because I hadn't been there. And I think everyone
from New Zealand at some stage in their lives should
go on holiday to both of them, because some of
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the things we think about aren't necessarily true once you've
been through there. And if I told you that farming
is different everywhere, but it's the same, then that mindset
opens a lot of doors for you because the problems
that we think we have here arethers that a lot
of other people have. And so what I what I
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found and what I had success with was trying to
work out where you know, New Zealand product fitted into
the problems or the differences that we see and some
of those those things and those realizations are probably the
biggest memories for me, alongside working with some tremendous people.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, fantasm. I always used to say to myself
when I was lucky enough to sort of tour the
world with with with Rugby and the all Blacks and
various things, to always take the time to lickornize cream
and feel the grass between your toes. Is there is
there any places you were or company you were keeping
that is sort of a pinch me moment, Oh.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, look I am. I got to meet MP's and
prime ministers and and the head of head of farming's people.
I think when I was in India some of the
places that we got to visit at high level was
was pretty impressive. Every but everywhere again, just what you
said about the Rugby, everywhere there's a story and everywhere
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and everywhere is good.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah fantastic. Hey, the arable sector in general, what's the
sort of the outlook for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Well, we're in a bit of a holding pattern in
terms of the small seed sector. I think we'll see
quiet market increase in plantings on the back of MD
warehouses the northern hemisphere, which is a good story. The
grain side of things, I can't see too much upside
in terms of price, but I can see demand probably
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holding and maybe increasing a little bit, so a positive story,
but not quite as positive as in there as it
needs to be just yet.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, Okate, Well, fingers crossed for that. Hamish, thank you
for joining us, and yeah, I hope it's missed on
the crops and rain on the dairy farm for you
this weekend. Much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here we go, thanks famous love.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The Cataby arable farmer there, former Special Trade en Voy
Hamish mah with you on the country. Well knock me
over with a feather. Well, thanks to bariatric surgery you
can pretty much damn near do that these days. But
on the issue of weight loss, those jabs you can
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get now gee, they are having a huge impact on
food trends and the old supermarket aisle. So we'll look
at that next with RABO researchers Stefan and Vogel. Here
on the country. This is the country, right across the country.
(09:03):
Hamers Mackay in for Jamie Mackay. Very topical in New
Zealand at the market, of course, is these the weight
weight loss injections that you see, you know, you see
those pictures of people, you know lifting up their shirt
and boom into the old tummy and what doesn't look
that comfortable? And well is it working and what sort
of impact is it having across all sorts of sectors
(09:25):
To look at this, We're joined by RABO researchers GM
Australia and New Zealand, Stephan Vogel and Stephan welcome. And
apparently if I'm on the old weight loss injection the
GLP ones of this world, I'm contributing to a global
change in eating habits. This is big research.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Absolutely, Hamish, thanks for having me and happy New Year.
And what is a better time to talk about weight
loss than early January. So we all have in mind
that we're gonna go for that run and we're gonna
eat healthy and it might go overboard in a week
or two. That good intentions, So that GLP one is
actually the easy route that we see quite a bit
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of people in many parts of the world taking these days.
And obviously it is a US driven phenomenon there. It's
already out in the market for quite a while, and
we see consumers to a level of ten twelve percent
of the population consuming it. And if you think about
a US population well over three hundred million people, that's
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thirty million people using it. You're not using it NonStop,
so we see a bit of waves. People use it
for a few weeks and months, lose some weight, take
it off, and then after a few months when these
kilos come back, well we're going to go back on
the drugs. So you see a little bit of not
consistent views all the time, but it is one of
the big ones also for the farmer industry that they're
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looking for to develop further, because one of the hurdles
right now is obviously people need to give themselves a shot,
which isn't appealing to as many people, but a lots
of them are already doing it. So the idea might
be that we might have a pill down the road
that makes it even more appealing to more people. But
in the food industry it is big trends. That is
changing North American market, it's changing European market, it's changing
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Asian markets. In Australia, we're a bit of ahead of
a New Zealand even we have also here about two
percent of the population using it. And in New Zealand
some of the drugs were approved already for weight loss
for a while, and then in March twenty twenty five
also drugs were approved for the consumers who don't get
the prescription for weight loss but actually or sorry for diabetes,
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is what I wanted to say. Now, actually, since March
twenty five ols in New Zealand, you have it for
weight loss approved and people have to pay themselves. It
costs somewhere four hundred and fifty to probably six hundred
dollars a month. But we see a rising amount of
people also in New Zealand using it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
This is a phenomenal number. This here where those were
just at least one person on what I call the
JAB the injection per household. In the US, the gryser
spending reduced by approximately six percent within six months of
the adoption of this practice. I means huge.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's huge, and that's what the food industry is preparing
for because it's not only people are spending less, and
why are you spending less? Because you are graving less,
So you're eating less of those salty chips, those sweet
little treats that you pop in on the route. But
you also see that the overall hunger is reduced. But
as you said, it's a household phenomenon, because imagine a
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dinner and one of us has the jab and all
others need to play somehow, par we're not eating burgers,
three of us and the first one eats a healthy salad,
So it's kind of as soon as one is on,
usually the diet for the whole household changes a little bit,
and that's what we see in the grocery basket changing.
So with that, if you look at the grocery basket,
you see some winners and you see some losers. The
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calorie dense products are the losers. The high fat content products,
sugar rich products are the loser. So talking salty chips
and all these kind of unhealthy snacks, talking sodas and
sweet bakery things, they're all on the heavy decline. The
winners are on the protein side. And why is that
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Because in not only losing fat when you take these
these weight loss drugs, but you're also losing muscle, and
to counter the muscle loss, people need to consume more proteins.
So high dairy protein products are a bit on the
winning side. Healthy fresh produce are on the winning side.
But overall it is a trend that changes the food
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industry around the world.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I suppose if we're looking at very positively, I mean,
at least the winners are the good things.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, that's how well, And that's kind of what actually
when we did the analysis here with our global team,
we said, it's not bringing completely new trends. It's actually
reinforcing and strengthening some of the trends that we all know.
But on the other side, look into North America. We've
just seen that the food pyramid was turned upside down
by the Health administration over there, saying now that fat
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and meat needs to be on top and the whole
drain needs to be on the bottom, which was very
different up until recently. So with that, the changes are
not only coming from the weight loss drugs, but in
some parts of the world also now the administration is
trying to tell people what to eat and what not
to eat. In a way that is different from the past.
But for this I think the winners are on the
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protein side, which is good. What I would have hoped
for is also that we see some of the meat
really winning, because you could say, well, chicken, beef, pork,
all of that has protein. We see it declining somewhere
in that six percent range in the studies as well.
That is the average of consumers reducing their growcery spend.
So it's not a real winner, it's not a real
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loser in the mix. But obviously with people consuming less,
there may be also consuming a little less of that beef.
So with that, I think for us in New Zealand
it's early stages locally, but that the destination markets and
the food industry and the destination markets are changing already rapidly,
and that's kind of where we also need to keep
a close eye on. And the dairy industry might actually
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win from that if we serve the right products.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, with these injections, are people changing their buying habits,
their shopping supermarket habits because it's in keeping with what
they're told to do, or is it the effect of it?
Is it, you know, the suppression of the appetite or
taste changes. What's actually driving.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That well, and we think it is really the taste
changes and also how they crave for some of the foods.
So with that, that's when you early said, well there
is a change, actually six months later still noticeable when
people have taken the medication for the first time. Six
months later, you see it still. If I tell you
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you need to do this, very often people forget about
it after a week and two. So with that, I
think it's really that the taste is changing, the appetite
is changing of those who are using the drugs, and
that's also what changes in the in the basket. However,
obviously also people then feel the need for more protein,
so they're deliberately moving over into that basket, and the
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fresh produce is something obviously a healthy diet somehow fits
into that lifestyle. So that might actually be a bit
of a not only the taste where it wins, but
also the common sense when you take a jab and
you think, well maybe I should eat a little bit
more of food and veggies in my diet.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Okay, winners a loser, some negatives and positives right across
the board, Thank you very much. That as Rubber Research
as GM Australia insieds Stiff and Vogel with us here
on the country. They great insight there from Stephen into
this world or the old tummy jab for the white
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life and the effect it's happening or having on the
old supermarket LL thirty million Americans. Well, it's a pretty
good pool of research, isn't it. A talking of research,
a bit of music research. Prince is huge again thanks
to the Netflix Netflix show Stranger Things, But not only Prince,
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the others that are huge, having eighties, massive in the eighties,
making a big comeback in the mid twenty twenties. You're
listening to the Country coming up next to Tracy Barrett Brown,
Dairy en Z chair and that Levy vote, that all
important Levy vote coming up for farmers to have your say.
(17:52):
Welcome back into the country. Harvis McKay in for j
V mackay for the first week of the year, right
time now to be joined by the chair of deary
en Z Tracy Brown. Tracy, how are you great?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Famous?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Happy New Years?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, happy New Years? Has the year started well for you?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, I know we.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Got rain on the farm over New Year's Eve. About
all those a few days over New Year's Eve, so
for about forty five mils. So that's always a welcome
sing at this time of the year.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You were about to year in the country, Tracy, were you.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
If I've been on holiday up north of the bab Islands.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're snug away. That's good, right, our
big year ahead. Well, I suppose nice. We hiked to
the GDT to start the year. That's that was a
good thing too, as well as that rain you got
on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, well so that was I think it was after
about a five months streak of the GDT dropping, so
that was a really welcome start to twenty twenty six. Famish,
that would have was a big release to farmers.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, and it seems to be. Most of the commentary
is that it wasn't just a blip on the radar,
that it might be a slight good correction.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Right, Yeah, I'm not sure, but I know, you know,
the global supply has been increasing and so that's sort
of what's put pressure, you know, later last year, that's
put pressure on the dirty te So hopefully this is
a turn in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, absolutely right. The dairy en z world, what's you know,
what's the focus for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah, So our big priority is we've got our levy
vote coming up Hamish at the start of this year,
so I just really want to flag that for farmers
that only happens every six years, and we're really encouraging
everybody to get out and have their say on whether
they want darien Z to continue or not. You know,
we've got a really important role, you know, the way
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we invest in on farm practical tools, research extension, pharmacy,
for advocacy, all of that kind of stuff, and so
this is that one and six year opportunity for farmers
to say if they want us to continue, so that
the voting so that will be open from the sixteenth
defect till with their length of March, so the voting
packs will go out next month. So that's sort of
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our big focus. We'll be continuing on delivering our strategy.
There's a lot of work still to do in that space.
We've also got an exciting opportunity coming up for someone
that would like to become an associate director that's thinking
about governance opportunity, so applications for that are open shortly.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, there have plenty going on now coming back to
the levy vote of course, So that's a decent amount
of time, no excuse for not having your say, so
to speak.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
And we've got a lot of events coming up around
the country. We've got discussion groups, you know, we've got
Dairy Expo, We've got all those sorts of things the area,
sort of specialist topic groups and all that, and so
there'll be plenty of opportunities to engage with our on
the ground, but they'll also be directors and members of
the leadership team out and about. So farmers have got
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every opportunity to come and talk to us about what
they like, what they don't like, what else they think
we need to do, or just come and tell us,
you know that they want us to continue and give
us their support.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So historically, traditionally, what sort of farmer input has there
been and are you expecting that to what are you
expecting this time around.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, we're looking for a strong mandate from farmers to continue.
We have to go to the Minister Minister Tom McClay
with a strong mandate from farmers that they want us
to continue to support because it has to go through
parliamentary processes as all everybodies do to continue, we would
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like to see a really good farmer turn out. We've
got to get a mandate by milk solids and by
number of farmers, so you know, we're really hoping that
we get a good turn out. We've had good turnouts
in the past for these boats, so we're really hoping
that that'll happen again. We were pretty active earlier in
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twenty twenty five going out and getting feedback from farmers,
so we've made quite a lot of changes to things
and we've got you know, we've got really good people
in the farmer facing teams and we're really sort of
hoping that pharmacy that we're making some good, good changes
and we're really listening to what they want from us.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What would you say, the the best things, the strongest
things that Dairy and z brings into twenty twenty six
and beyond for New Zealand dairy farmers.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
So we're really focused on tackling the problems that farmers
have got immediately in front of them, Hamish, but also
things that might be coming at us down the track.
So we've got a lot of investment going on, all
a lot, but we've got investment going on in reducing
greenhouse gas emissions. We've got some work going on around
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extended lactation, looking if that's viable or not.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
We've got all our sort of business as usual.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Information, you know, transfer around efficiency, around past utilization, feed
efficiency breeding. You know, we've been quite active last year
around workshops with LC and Fonterra around getting best genetic
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results out of farmer's heaths because it's been identified that
there's quite a big opportunity and that there's a lot
of replacements coming from the lower part of people's heads
and so that's sort of low hanging fruits. So we've
been doing quite a bit of work collectively around then
and just trying to support farmers to make those good decisions,
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improve their genetic gain and improve their productive performance of
their herds. So I mean that's just a very light
touch around what we do. We're also quite involved, of
course with policy and you know when it relates to
things inside the farm gate. So our teams are reviewing
the RMA reform at the moment that came out right
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before Christmas, so you know, the indications are there's quite
a bit of positive stuff in there for farmers in
terms of it's looking like things will be. There'll be
a more permissive approach to production in rural areas, will
be greater emphasis on farm environment plans, There'll be more
sort of consistency across the regions, and there'll be more
recognition of the work the catchment groups do. But there
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will also be some things you know around sort of
tougher penalty for noncompliance, which is fair in US. And
you know, I guess the thing we're most concerned about
at the moment of seeing where the MPs, which is
the fresh Water Regulations land when that comes out for consultation,
you know, just in terms of what that might look like.
So we're working on our teams looking on a submission
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at the moment on behalf of farmer stuff. Farmers want
to have a say around the RMA. Get in touch
with serians because we really want to reflect farmer's views
and what we put forward and our feedback around that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Great stuff, great body of work happening there. But if
you don't, if you don't think so, you've got an
opportunity having your farmers you can get in there and
have your say. Between the sixteenth of February and the
thirteenth of March and all the other events happening around
the country. Tracy Brown cheer, Dearien's it. Thank you very
much for joining us, Thanks for having.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Me on the show, and I really just want to
wash everybody a great rest of the season and a
good twenty twenty six. I really hope people have had
a bit of downtime or at least in time to
relax over the fist of seasonless family and friends and
you know, just enjoy things.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But too right, Thanks very much. Tracy cheers. Yes, there
is the count a bit of Kate bush Keeping in
the theme. Michelle, Hello, Hello alone, Dunedin down, They're in
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Chili Land from Stranger Things. Have you actually watched the program?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I have to say, true to form, I am the
biggest nerd, and I have actually watched, apart from the
final season, the rest.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Twice right, Okay, said pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Just putting it out there. I mean, I don't care
if I'm a giant nerd. To be honest, nerds around
the world we do all this background button pushing stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Make things happen, Make it all happen. Yeah, Stranger Things.
Of course, of the rewirth of Prince we heard earlier
on of course Kate Bush running up the hill forty
years on, just going get Oh, dear me, I just
caught a stranger things, you know something, just I am
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alive in the Awk condo. You did look concerned that
you You sort of looked up the line and went
is he okay? Yea, and I am okay. So let's
stand by and get into a bit of the old
news and sport.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
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Speaker 7 (27:13):
Thanks Hamish. I was concerned slightly for listeners out there
wondering what we're talking about. At the moment, I can
see him on zoom. We're in two different ends of
the country, which makes things rather interesting. But when things
go silent like that, it's always a bit of what's happening?
But no, we're all good.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We're all good.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Just letting everyone know out there and what else is
good here and news Today. Entries are opened for Frontier
at ASB First Farm Award and the ASB Alumni of
the Year Award for the Dairy Industry Awards. They've opened
for these two significant awards and aimed at helping young
farmers progress to farm ownership. The ASB Alumni of the
Year Award, together with the Fonteri and ASB for and
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Fast Toward Farm First Award, give winners a financial advantage
in their farm ownership journey. And the award is open
to all d Z Dairy Industry at Ward alumni who
have been entrants in the past seven years and are
no longer eligible to enter Dairy manager of the ear
sheer farmer of the categories and he not ready yet
to purchase their first farm or already own one. So
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you can find out more about that at Dairy Industry
Awards dot co dot m Z. If you'd like to
get that entry in but exciting times this year, that
would be a great price. Coming up next we have
got sport with Hamish Here we go.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Sports on the country with afco Ke we owned. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes. Golfer Cameron Smith one of the best and the
business has confirmed he won't be following Brooks Kepka and
returning to the PGA, preferring to stay with the Libgulf Circus,
which I think is a bit of a shame to
be honest. Michael Carrick has been named indim boss of
Manchester United. Now that's a challenge, a chalice, only more
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slightly less poison, I guess than the one you might
get if you were trying to save west Ham United
from relegation in this season. Michael Carrick in charge of
Manchester United. Her having a bit of a shocker. I
wonder if all those people that sort of got on
Manchester United in the nineties bandwagon is a sort of
jumping off at a raid of knots nowadays. Michelle, there
you go. That's our sport. This is the country brought
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to you by Farmlands Hamish mguy with you on your Wednesday. Well,
we're going to talk a bit of cricket, a bit
of farming some weather now, because apparently where our next
guest is today it is very very chilly. That is Dunedin,
white ferns and Oarigo cricketer out injured at the moment.
(29:44):
Eden cass And joins us. Now, Eden, Hello, how are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Hello?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (29:50):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah? Good good? Good? Now you're bearing up because one
Michelle Watt has been telling me how cold it is
in Dneda. Does she actually on the money?
Speaker 9 (29:59):
Yeah, have been so summary down here. I must say,
we're kind of hunting for some donner stubbs at the moment.
But you know where used to it down here.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You hail from the money at Toto. Imagine it'd be
a bit different over there at the moment. Beautiful time
of the year.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit warmer than here,
which is nice. But I'm looking forward to going home
on Friday and seeing my family and you know, getting
back to my roots, which will be nice.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Now, injury wise, were you you're not
playing at the moment, how's things going on that front?
Elbow injury?
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I think, ah, yes, no, I'm still injured and I'll
be injured for a while. But month post surgery and
I'm already out of my brace, which is good. So
tracking along nicely with my rehabit things and slowly getting
into things. But yeah, I'm still very grateful to be
involved around the girls and cricket things and stuff. Just
trying to keep myself busy.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
So elbow injury, like gnally, I guess, tricky, tricky to
kind of fix.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Yeah, it's a niglie weee joints. They had to actually
take a graft out of my hamstring tender and then
put it into my elbow, so some high tech stuff.
But I had a great surgeon and he's done.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
He's done a.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Beautiful job and we scar which you know, better wounds
and things like that. But no, it's it's been great, which, yeah,
annoying to be out for the season, but you know,
I've always got next season and come back better and stronger,
which will be nice.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You play butt a golf too, don't you as well,
so you would have had to sideline that as well too,
I suppose. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
I haven't plaid around the golf for nearly a year now,
so i'd also just bought a driver just befo I
got injured and somehow Dad has scammed it off me.
At the moment, I would definitely be asking for that
back because he's a bit of a club thrower when
he gets a little bit anger on the golf course,
so he'd be not a bit throwing the surrounds.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, okay, so yeah the driver is a boomerang Dad.
That's okay, good call, good cool with your recovery. How
long do you expect to be out and did it.
Will you stick to spend a bit of time over
on the farm. I know you've done a bit of
milking and all those sorts of things.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah, I've said I'm mostly going to be out for
six months, but I like to try to prove everyone wrong.
But not pushing it obviously, but yeah, I'd like to
get back on the farm during this period. I know
it will still be quite busy day to day with
my rehabbing things, as I'm just trying to throw everything
into that at the moment and see what my progress
(32:28):
is like throughout that. But yeah, a bit of dairy
farming back in the day. I haven't done it in
a while. I haven't needed to, but I don't know
if i'd bowed to put cups on at the moment
with a middlely three armed so probably gets me out
of it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We'reabouts is home exactly, she'dn't be farm pretty close to
rain fairly.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, Mom and dad have a little block and gimme
a burn, so I'm up there. And then my grandparents
used to also own a farm and give me a
burn naspas so yeah, but we no longer have all
of that. So dad just works on the farm for
a local filth mass which he really enjoys as well,
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which is good.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Dimmer Burn, what's that? Dimmer Burn? I love that name
and I've never heard of it, and I kind of
like to think I'm a bit of a geography buff
as well. You know.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Yeah, gimmer Burn, there is a hall and that's about us. So, oh,
there's actually a cricket purch Actually, I take that back.
So they've got that going for them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
A hall.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But they's sort of the way with a lot of
New Zealand these days, isn't it. But I'm going to
have to get there one day. Gimm Aburn, So tell
me what when you when you live in And I
have to be careful how I frame this relative isolation,
although I have been to Ranfuri in the money, I
alto you have to, I guess, have a certain resilience
and can do attitude to be able to crack into
(33:54):
high level sport. Can you sort of talk us through
what makes you tick on that front?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Definitely, I think that also probably come's worth the amount
of work that my my parents did for me at
a young age. You know, like you said, we're a
little bit isolated than the Minnetoto, so they did a
lot of driving for me to you know, the likes
of Cromwell, Queenstown, Juanedan all over the place just for
trainings and sports as well, because you know that age,
(34:25):
my brother and I we played a lot of sports
such as rugby hockey and also cricket, so there was
a lot of running rounds that they had to do
after us.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Wish.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Now I look back, I'm very appreciative of that because
there's a big reason for where I have got to today.
And then also you know, sending me off the boarding
schools also helps my dream of you know, trying to
crack top sports.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Of factors that have gone into where I've got it
got today. But I definitely put it down to my
mother and my father doing.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That for me.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Great here and say, and you think of about it
too when you don't not only their time, but you know,
you don't as a kid think about seventy cents a
kilometer when you know, you know, all those things, when
you add up all that sort of it's incredible what
appearance to now.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
I've been paying for my picture, So I fully understand that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, we get we work it out eventually, right sees
the sixty year old still feeling like he's in his twenties.
I guess with a community like the money at Alto,
how do people show how proud they are of you,
and you know, you're obviously integral to their day to
day life to it feels like an area of people
want are proud of their people.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Put it that way, Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm very
grateful for the community that I've grown up and you know,
I get a lot of messages every time I go home,
you know, talking to someone in the street, and you
know that goes a long way just for me as
a person and for my career as well. To see
the difference that I've made within my community community, especially
(35:56):
with you know, the young ones as well. I try
to go on to some trainings whenever I'm home and
things like that, which I'll be able to do a
bit more this year with being out and probably home
more so I am looking forward to getting more involved
in that space. But yeah, no, I do love the
way that my community has kind of supported me through
all of it. And then my dad was actually saying
(36:20):
a lot of them actually comes to games just to watch,
you know, they like to me. And then also you
know Kate and Bakeley who's also from the Mini Tato.
So yeah, very appreciative.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Hi, great stuff, Eden, what'sh you all the best with
your recovery and you know, I look forward to the
day when the people of the money are Toto doing
what the people of Curra are doing. You know, a
statue with Richie of course, statue of eating cars and
and ran fairly fantastic. Great to chat and what'sh you
all the best?
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Time old Heath cliff A nineteen seventy eight fields like
five minutes ago, and certainly we've seen the old. The
return of the likes of Kate, Bush and Prince been
our music today thanks to the show A Stranger Things. Hey,
(37:25):
thanks to our guest today, Hamish mar Tracy Brown, Stephan Vogel,
Eden Carson. I'm gonna shoot home now and no doubt
my lovely wife. As a day of work today, we'll
want to watch another episode of Funny Enough Farmer Wants
a Wife, so we'll churn into that. Hey, I've got
in front of me. Here's something spectacular from my good
friend Mel Bartlett down there in the Mighty Bulls, an
(37:47):
invitation to the Bulls Rugby Club the Big one hundred
and fiftieth Jubilee Celebration Garala Dinner invitation. I'm stoked about that.
Find out more if you're a Bulls rugby person. One
hundred and fifty of coming up at Easter. All I
need now is an invitation to the New Zealandsuring Championship
with the Golden Shears to take on Jamie McKay and
a repeat of when he dusted me absolutely cleaned me
(38:11):
up with a handpiece at the goal at the New
Zealand Insuring champs. There you go. That's been another edition
of the Country
Speaker 1 (38:23):
The Country with Hamus mackuay and Farmland's advice you can trust, products,
you can count on.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
On coming out to eight minutes after midday on the country.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Bit of purple rain from Prince, Wasn't the man just
an absolute genius? And of course with the well with
the heck TV show or online show Stranger Things, Prince
Prince songs are going nuts, downloading quicker than a full wall.
You out the Simon gosp porthole. There you go. Ye,
(00:51):
fantastic to see the country. Welcome in Hamish mcguy and
for Jamie mguy, how's your wingsday going spectacular? I hope you.
I mean you might be still lucky enough to be
swinging on your fishing rod, or maybe you're swinging on
a hand piece, or you know, you might be on
the end of a paintbrush getting your tarting. Your property
up ready for sale, mister Billinghurst of Millson Line. Eh,
(01:14):
I hope you're all ready to go. You've got the
top agent on the job. Hey, good to see tractor sales.
We're up in twenty twenty five. Heard that on the news.
That's good spending a bit of money. Farmers have been
pretty sensible over the last couple of years, haven't we
paying down a bit of debt? But now it's not
you know, probably not a bad time to have a
little bit of a splash out. Coming up on the show.
(01:35):
First up, we'll talk to Hamish Mark Catergory, horrible farmer,
one of three Hamishes in the world, apparently me and him,
the two out of three special trade endal. Of course,
his role with that came to end on January, the
first Nathan guy taking over there. But what were Hamous's
highlights of his time in that role. Ravo Research GM
(01:58):
Stefan Vogel out Sydney looks at the impact of the
weight loss injections on buyer trends at supermarkets and it's huge.
You've got thirty million Americans jabbing themselves in the tummy
to drop a few kilos. This is fascinating stuff. Tracy
Brown derrigain Z Chair, the Levy vote is coming up
(02:19):
between February and March, Farmers, you have your opportunity to
have you say. If you don't, you can't complain. Looking
forward to catching up with Tracy, and we catch up
with the cricketer and one of money to those finest
Eagen Cast and also on the show. But first up
a man as busy as ever the country on your Wednesday,
(02:46):
Hamish Mackay, And for Jamie Mackay, great to have your
company wherever you are, whatever you might be doing right
across this wonderful land of ours. Well, of course Hamish
mar finished up as our special trade and voyeurs of
the start this year, handing over the rains too hot
a fen I was fine. It's mister Nathan guy. And
of course Hamers Canterbory arable farmer joins us. Now hamersh
(03:09):
happy new year, house things started for you in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, happy new year to you, Hamish. Things have started
out pretty well. We've done we've done a little bit
of harvest. We've got plenty more to do. Big rain
coming at the weekend. We're not very excited about that,
but anyway we'll deal with it when it comes.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But heavier than the myths that would be okay, I understand.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Well this is the thing, right, You can't please a
farmer and everyone knows that this time of year the
arable farmers like me want hot and dry. But the
other half their operation, which is dairy, doesn't mind the rain.
So we've got foot in each camp and that's just
where farming's at too.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, absolutely it is. So how are you fining? You've
got a bit of extra time on your plate now,
and I guess that's gonna be not that you've got
a busy enough operation. I mean, I'm not saying the
year you're not plad out, but I guess now that
you're not involved as the special trade end Boy, how's
that going to change your life in twenty six?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Oh well, it'll probably just changed my focus a little
bit back to what we were doing before. Who knows
what the future holes and terms of roles and some pieces.
But just at the moment, Hamish, it's get our harvest
out of the way and then we'll see what happens
after that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, what are your best memories of the last few years?
What sort of what do you look back on most proudly?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Ah Hamoush For out doubt, it's when I ask what
people's images of New Zealand are, and they every country
I visited, in every meeting I went to the feedback
that New Zealand is the prettiest place on earth. That
the people that we deal with from New Zealand or
New Zealanders are particularly good people. We're very trusted withth
(04:53):
we're very honest, and the product that we send offshore
as a reflection of all of those things. And when
you hear the time and time again, you know, you
get that goosebump feeling every time. Very very proud to
be in New Zealand and a New Zealand farmer.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, yep, Oh that's great, isn't it? Prettiest place? New
Zealand is good people, great product and are fantastic. Where
did you enjoy going the most? Who are the who
are the best sort of contacts you made? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Look, I made great contacts everywhere Hamish and I don't
know that I could name one place. I found every
place interesting. I think if I well, China and India,
probably because I hadn't been there. And I think everyone
from New Zealand at some stage in their lives should
go on holiday to both of them, because some of
(05:41):
the things we think about aren't necessarily true once you've
been through there. And if I told you that farming
is different everywhere, but it's the same, then that mindset
opens a lot of doors for you because the problems
that we think we have here arethers that a lot
of other people have. And so what I what I
(06:04):
found and what I had success with was trying to
work out where you know, New Zealand product fitted into
the problems or the differences that we see and some
of those those things and those realizations are probably the
biggest memories for me, alongside working with some tremendous people.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, fantasm. I always used to say to myself
when I was lucky enough to sort of tour the
world with with with Rugby and the all Blacks and
various things, to always take the time to lickornize cream
and feel the grass between your toes. Is there is
there any places you were or company you were keeping
that is sort of a pinch me moment, Oh.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, look I am. I got to meet MP's and
prime ministers and and the head of head of farming's people.
I think when I was in India some of the
places that we got to visit at high level was
was pretty impressive. Every but everywhere again, just what you
said about the Rugby, everywhere there's a story and everywhere
(07:03):
and everywhere is good.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah fantastic. Hey, the arable sector in general, what's the
sort of the outlook for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Well, we're in a bit of a holding pattern in
terms of the small seed sector. I think we'll see
quiet market increase in plantings on the back of MD
warehouses the northern hemisphere, which is a good story. The
grain side of things, I can't see too much upside
in terms of price, but I can see demand probably
(07:36):
holding and maybe increasing a little bit, so a positive story,
but not quite as positive as in there as it
needs to be just yet.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, Okate, Well, fingers crossed for that. Hamish, thank you
for joining us, and yeah, I hope it's missed on
the crops and rain on the dairy farm for you
this weekend. Much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here we go, thanks famous love.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The Cataby arable farmer there, former Special Trade en Voy
Hamish mah with you on the country. Well knock me
over with a feather. Well, thanks to bariatric surgery you
can pretty much damn near do that these days. But
on the issue of weight loss, those jabs you can
(08:22):
get now gee, they are having a huge impact on
food trends and the old supermarket aisle. So we'll look
at that next with RABO researchers Stefan and Vogel. Here
on the country. This is the country, right across the country.
(09:03):
Hamers Mackay in for Jamie Mackay. Very topical in New
Zealand at the market, of course, is these the weight
weight loss injections that you see, you know, you see
those pictures of people, you know lifting up their shirt
and boom into the old tummy and what doesn't look
that comfortable? And well is it working and what sort
of impact is it having across all sorts of sectors
(09:25):
To look at this, We're joined by RABO researchers GM
Australia and New Zealand, Stephan Vogel and Stephan welcome. And
apparently if I'm on the old weight loss injection the
GLP ones of this world, I'm contributing to a global
change in eating habits. This is big research.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Absolutely, Hamish, thanks for having me and happy New Year.
And what is a better time to talk about weight
loss than early January. So we all have in mind
that we're gonna go for that run and we're gonna
eat healthy and it might go overboard in a week
or two. That good intentions, So that GLP one is
actually the easy route that we see quite a bit
(10:05):
of people in many parts of the world taking these days.
And obviously it is a US driven phenomenon there. It's
already out in the market for quite a while, and
we see consumers to a level of ten twelve percent
of the population consuming it. And if you think about
a US population well over three hundred million people, that's
(10:26):
thirty million people using it. You're not using it NonStop,
so we see a bit of waves. People use it
for a few weeks and months, lose some weight, take
it off, and then after a few months when these
kilos come back, well we're going to go back on
the drugs. So you see a little bit of not
consistent views all the time, but it is one of
the big ones also for the farmer industry that they're
(10:46):
looking for to develop further, because one of the hurdles
right now is obviously people need to give themselves a shot,
which isn't appealing to as many people, but a lots
of them are already doing it. So the idea might
be that we might have a pill down the road
that makes it even more appealing to more people. But
in the food industry it is big trends. That is
changing North American market, it's changing European market, it's changing
(11:09):
Asian markets. In Australia, we're a bit of ahead of
a New Zealand even we have also here about two
percent of the population using it. And in New Zealand
some of the drugs were approved already for weight loss
for a while, and then in March twenty twenty five
also drugs were approved for the consumers who don't get
the prescription for weight loss but actually or sorry for diabetes,
(11:32):
is what I wanted to say. Now, actually, since March
twenty five ols in New Zealand, you have it for
weight loss approved and people have to pay themselves. It
costs somewhere four hundred and fifty to probably six hundred
dollars a month. But we see a rising amount of
people also in New Zealand using it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
This is a phenomenal number. This here where those were
just at least one person on what I call the
JAB the injection per household. In the US, the gryser
spending reduced by approximately six percent within six months of
the adoption of this practice. I means huge.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's huge, and that's what the food industry is preparing
for because it's not only people are spending less, and
why are you spending less? Because you are graving less,
So you're eating less of those salty chips, those sweet
little treats that you pop in on the route. But
you also see that the overall hunger is reduced. But
as you said, it's a household phenomenon, because imagine a
(12:33):
dinner and one of us has the jab and all
others need to play somehow, par we're not eating burgers,
three of us and the first one eats a healthy salad,
So it's kind of as soon as one is on,
usually the diet for the whole household changes a little bit,
and that's what we see in the grocery basket changing.
So with that, if you look at the grocery basket,
you see some winners and you see some losers. The
(12:54):
calorie dense products are the losers. The high fat content products,
sugar rich products are the loser. So talking salty chips
and all these kind of unhealthy snacks, talking sodas and
sweet bakery things, they're all on the heavy decline. The
winners are on the protein side. And why is that
(13:15):
Because in not only losing fat when you take these
these weight loss drugs, but you're also losing muscle, and
to counter the muscle loss, people need to consume more proteins.
So high dairy protein products are a bit on the
winning side. Healthy fresh produce are on the winning side.
But overall it is a trend that changes the food
(13:36):
industry around the world.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I suppose if we're looking at very positively, I mean,
at least the winners are the good things.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, that's how well, And that's kind of what actually
when we did the analysis here with our global team,
we said, it's not bringing completely new trends. It's actually
reinforcing and strengthening some of the trends that we all know.
But on the other side, look into North America. We've
just seen that the food pyramid was turned upside down
by the Health administration over there, saying now that fat
(14:08):
and meat needs to be on top and the whole
drain needs to be on the bottom, which was very
different up until recently. So with that, the changes are
not only coming from the weight loss drugs, but in
some parts of the world also now the administration is
trying to tell people what to eat and what not
to eat. In a way that is different from the past.
But for this I think the winners are on the
(14:29):
protein side, which is good. What I would have hoped
for is also that we see some of the meat
really winning, because you could say, well, chicken, beef, pork,
all of that has protein. We see it declining somewhere
in that six percent range in the studies as well.
That is the average of consumers reducing their growcery spend.
So it's not a real winner, it's not a real
(14:50):
loser in the mix. But obviously with people consuming less,
there may be also consuming a little less of that beef.
So with that, I think for us in New Zealand
it's early stages locally, but that the destination markets and
the food industry and the destination markets are changing already rapidly,
and that's kind of where we also need to keep
a close eye on. And the dairy industry might actually
(15:12):
win from that if we serve the right products.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, with these injections, are people changing their buying habits,
their shopping supermarket habits because it's in keeping with what
they're told to do, or is it the effect of it?
Is it, you know, the suppression of the appetite or
taste changes. What's actually driving.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That well, and we think it is really the taste
changes and also how they crave for some of the foods.
So with that, that's when you early said, well there
is a change, actually six months later still noticeable when
people have taken the medication for the first time. Six
months later, you see it still. If I tell you
(15:55):
you need to do this, very often people forget about
it after a week and two. So with that, I
think it's really that the taste is changing, the appetite
is changing of those who are using the drugs, and
that's also what changes in the in the basket. However,
obviously also people then feel the need for more protein,
so they're deliberately moving over into that basket, and the
(16:18):
fresh produce is something obviously a healthy diet somehow fits
into that lifestyle. So that might actually be a bit
of a not only the taste where it wins, but
also the common sense when you take a jab and
you think, well maybe I should eat a little bit
more of food and veggies in my diet.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Okay, winners a loser, some negatives and positives right across
the board, Thank you very much. That as Rubber Research
as GM Australia insieds Stiff and Vogel with us here
on the country. They great insight there from Stephen into
this world or the old tummy jab for the white
(16:59):
life and the effect it's happening or having on the
old supermarket LL thirty million Americans. Well, it's a pretty
good pool of research, isn't it. A talking of research,
a bit of music research. Prince is huge again thanks
to the Netflix Netflix show Stranger Things, But not only Prince,
(17:22):
the others that are huge, having eighties, massive in the eighties,
making a big comeback in the mid twenty twenties. You're
listening to the Country coming up next to Tracy Barrett Brown,
Dairy en Z chair and that Levy vote, that all
important Levy vote coming up for farmers to have your say.
(17:52):
Welcome back into the country. Harvis McKay in for j
V mackay for the first week of the year, right
time now to be joined by the chair of deary
en Z Tracy Brown. Tracy, how are you great?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Famous?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Happy New Years?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, happy New Years? Has the year started well for you?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, I know we.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Got rain on the farm over New Year's Eve. About
all those a few days over New Year's Eve, so
for about forty five mils. So that's always a welcome
sing at this time of the year.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You were about to year in the country, Tracy, were you.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
If I've been on holiday up north of the bab Islands.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're snug away. That's good, right, our
big year ahead. Well, I suppose nice. We hiked to
the GDT to start the year. That's that was a
good thing too, as well as that rain you got
on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, well so that was I think it was after
about a five months streak of the GDT dropping, so
that was a really welcome start to twenty twenty six. Famish,
that would have was a big release to farmers.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, and it seems to be. Most of the commentary
is that it wasn't just a blip on the radar,
that it might be a slight good correction.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Right, Yeah, I'm not sure, but I know, you know,
the global supply has been increasing and so that's sort
of what's put pressure, you know, later last year, that's
put pressure on the dirty te So hopefully this is
a turn in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, absolutely right. The dairy en z world, what's you know,
what's the focus for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah, So our big priority is we've got our levy
vote coming up Hamish at the start of this year,
so I just really want to flag that for farmers
that only happens every six years, and we're really encouraging
everybody to get out and have their say on whether
they want darien Z to continue or not. You know,
we've got a really important role, you know, the way
(19:54):
we invest in on farm practical tools, research extension, pharmacy,
for advocacy, all of that kind of stuff, and so
this is that one and six year opportunity for farmers
to say if they want us to continue, so that
the voting so that will be open from the sixteenth
defect till with their length of March, so the voting
packs will go out next month. So that's sort of
(20:15):
our big focus. We'll be continuing on delivering our strategy.
There's a lot of work still to do in that space.
We've also got an exciting opportunity coming up for someone
that would like to become an associate director that's thinking
about governance opportunity, so applications for that are open shortly.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, there have plenty going on now coming back to
the levy vote of course, So that's a decent amount
of time, no excuse for not having your say, so
to speak.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
And we've got a lot of events coming up around
the country. We've got discussion groups, you know, we've got
Dairy Expo, We've got all those sorts of things the area,
sort of specialist topic groups and all that, and so
there'll be plenty of opportunities to engage with our on
the ground, but they'll also be directors and members of
the leadership team out and about. So farmers have got
(21:06):
every opportunity to come and talk to us about what
they like, what they don't like, what else they think
we need to do, or just come and tell us,
you know that they want us to continue and give
us their support.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So historically, traditionally, what sort of farmer input has there
been and are you expecting that to what are you
expecting this time around.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, we're looking for a strong mandate from farmers to continue.
We have to go to the Minister Minister Tom McClay
with a strong mandate from farmers that they want us
to continue to support because it has to go through
parliamentary processes as all everybodies do to continue, we would
(21:51):
like to see a really good farmer turn out. We've
got to get a mandate by milk solids and by
number of farmers, so you know, we're really hoping that
we get a good turn out. We've had good turnouts
in the past for these boats, so we're really hoping
that that'll happen again. We were pretty active earlier in
(22:12):
twenty twenty five going out and getting feedback from farmers,
so we've made quite a lot of changes to things
and we've got you know, we've got really good people
in the farmer facing teams and we're really sort of
hoping that pharmacy that we're making some good, good changes
and we're really listening to what they want from us.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What would you say, the the best things, the strongest
things that Dairy and z brings into twenty twenty six
and beyond for New Zealand dairy farmers.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
So we're really focused on tackling the problems that farmers
have got immediately in front of them, Hamish, but also
things that might be coming at us down the track.
So we've got a lot of investment going on, all
a lot, but we've got investment going on in reducing
greenhouse gas emissions. We've got some work going on around
(23:01):
extended lactation, looking if that's viable or not.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
We've got all our sort of business as usual.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Information, you know, transfer around efficiency, around past utilization, feed
efficiency breeding. You know, we've been quite active last year
around workshops with LC and Fonterra around getting best genetic
(23:30):
results out of farmer's heaths because it's been identified that
there's quite a big opportunity and that there's a lot
of replacements coming from the lower part of people's heads
and so that's sort of low hanging fruits. So we've
been doing quite a bit of work collectively around then
and just trying to support farmers to make those good decisions,
(23:50):
improve their genetic gain and improve their productive performance of
their herds. So I mean that's just a very light
touch around what we do. We're also quite involved, of
course with policy and you know when it relates to
things inside the farm gate. So our teams are reviewing
the RMA reform at the moment that came out right
(24:12):
before Christmas, so you know, the indications are there's quite
a bit of positive stuff in there for farmers in
terms of it's looking like things will be. There'll be
a more permissive approach to production in rural areas, will
be greater emphasis on farm environment plans, There'll be more
sort of consistency across the regions, and there'll be more
recognition of the work the catchment groups do. But there
(24:35):
will also be some things you know around sort of
tougher penalty for noncompliance, which is fair in US. And
you know, I guess the thing we're most concerned about
at the moment of seeing where the MPs, which is
the fresh Water Regulations land when that comes out for consultation,
you know, just in terms of what that might look like.
So we're working on our teams looking on a submission
(24:58):
at the moment on behalf of farmer stuff. Farmers want
to have a say around the RMA. Get in touch
with serians because we really want to reflect farmer's views
and what we put forward and our feedback around that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Great stuff, great body of work happening there. But if
you don't, if you don't think so, you've got an
opportunity having your farmers you can get in there and
have your say. Between the sixteenth of February and the
thirteenth of March and all the other events happening around
the country. Tracy Brown cheer, Dearien's it. Thank you very
much for joining us, Thanks for having.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Me on the show, and I really just want to
wash everybody a great rest of the season and a
good twenty twenty six. I really hope people have had
a bit of downtime or at least in time to
relax over the fist of seasonless family and friends and
you know, just enjoy things.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But too right, Thanks very much. Tracy cheers. Yes, there
is the count a bit of Kate bush Keeping in
the theme. Michelle, Hello, Hello alone, Dunedin down, They're in
(26:07):
Chili Land from Stranger Things. Have you actually watched the program?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I have to say, true to form, I am the
biggest nerd, and I have actually watched, apart from the
final season, the rest.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Twice right, Okay, said pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Just putting it out there. I mean, I don't care
if I'm a giant nerd. To be honest, nerds around
the world we do all this background button pushing stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Make things happen, Make it all happen. Yeah, Stranger Things.
Of course, of the rewirth of Prince we heard earlier
on of course Kate Bush running up the hill forty
years on, just going get Oh, dear me, I just
caught a stranger things, you know something, just I am
(26:49):
alive in the Awk condo. You did look concerned that
you You sort of looked up the line and went
is he okay? Yea, and I am okay. So let's
stand by and get into a bit of the old
news and sport.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
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Speaker 7 (27:13):
Thanks Hamish. I was concerned slightly for listeners out there
wondering what we're talking about. At the moment, I can
see him on zoom. We're in two different ends of
the country, which makes things rather interesting. But when things
go silent like that, it's always a bit of what's happening?
But no, we're all good.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We're all good.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Just letting everyone know out there and what else is
good here and news Today. Entries are opened for Frontier
at ASB First Farm Award and the ASB Alumni of
the Year Award for the Dairy Industry Awards. They've opened
for these two significant awards and aimed at helping young
farmers progress to farm ownership. The ASB Alumni of the
Year Award, together with the Fonteri and ASB for and
(27:51):
Fast Toward Farm First Award, give winners a financial advantage
in their farm ownership journey. And the award is open
to all d Z Dairy Industry at Ward alumni who
have been entrants in the past seven years and are
no longer eligible to enter Dairy manager of the ear
sheer farmer of the categories and he not ready yet
to purchase their first farm or already own one. So
(28:13):
you can find out more about that at Dairy Industry
Awards dot co dot m Z. If you'd like to
get that entry in but exciting times this year, that
would be a great price. Coming up next we have
got sport with Hamish Here we go.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Sports on the country with afco Ke we owned. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes. Golfer Cameron Smith one of the best and the
business has confirmed he won't be following Brooks Kepka and
returning to the PGA, preferring to stay with the Libgulf Circus,
which I think is a bit of a shame to
be honest. Michael Carrick has been named indim boss of
Manchester United. Now that's a challenge, a chalice, only more
(28:54):
slightly less poison, I guess than the one you might
get if you were trying to save west Ham United
from relegation in this season. Michael Carrick in charge of
Manchester United. Her having a bit of a shocker. I
wonder if all those people that sort of got on
Manchester United in the nineties bandwagon is a sort of
jumping off at a raid of knots nowadays. Michelle, there
you go. That's our sport. This is the country brought
(29:23):
to you by Farmlands Hamish mguy with you on your Wednesday. Well,
we're going to talk a bit of cricket, a bit
of farming some weather now, because apparently where our next
guest is today it is very very chilly. That is Dunedin,
white ferns and Oarigo cricketer out injured at the moment.
(29:44):
Eden cass And joins us. Now, Eden, Hello, how are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Hello?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (29:50):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah? Good good? Good? Now you're bearing up because one
Michelle Watt has been telling me how cold it is
in Dneda. Does she actually on the money?
Speaker 9 (29:59):
Yeah, have been so summary down here. I must say,
we're kind of hunting for some donner stubbs at the moment.
But you know where used to it down here.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You hail from the money at Toto. Imagine it'd be
a bit different over there at the moment. Beautiful time
of the year.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit warmer than here,
which is nice. But I'm looking forward to going home
on Friday and seeing my family and you know, getting
back to my roots, which will be nice.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Now, injury wise, were you you're not
playing at the moment, how's things going on that front?
Elbow injury?
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I think, ah, yes, no, I'm still injured and I'll
be injured for a while. But month post surgery and
I'm already out of my brace, which is good. So
tracking along nicely with my rehabit things and slowly getting
into things. But yeah, I'm still very grateful to be
involved around the girls and cricket things and stuff. Just
trying to keep myself busy.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
So elbow injury, like gnally, I guess, tricky, tricky to
kind of fix.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Yeah, it's a niglie weee joints. They had to actually
take a graft out of my hamstring tender and then
put it into my elbow, so some high tech stuff.
But I had a great surgeon and he's done.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
He's done a.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Beautiful job and we scar which you know, better wounds
and things like that. But no, it's it's been great, which, yeah,
annoying to be out for the season, but you know,
I've always got next season and come back better and stronger,
which will be nice.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You play butt a golf too, don't you as well,
so you would have had to sideline that as well too,
I suppose. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
I haven't plaid around the golf for nearly a year now,
so i'd also just bought a driver just befo I
got injured and somehow Dad has scammed it off me.
At the moment, I would definitely be asking for that
back because he's a bit of a club thrower when
he gets a little bit anger on the golf course,
so he'd be not a bit throwing the surrounds.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, okay, so yeah the driver is a boomerang Dad.
That's okay, good call, good cool with your recovery. How
long do you expect to be out and did it.
Will you stick to spend a bit of time over
on the farm. I know you've done a bit of
milking and all those sorts of things.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah, I've said I'm mostly going to be out for
six months, but I like to try to prove everyone wrong.
But not pushing it obviously, but yeah, I'd like to
get back on the farm during this period. I know
it will still be quite busy day to day with
my rehabbing things, as I'm just trying to throw everything
into that at the moment and see what my progress
(32:28):
is like throughout that. But yeah, a bit of dairy
farming back in the day. I haven't done it in
a while. I haven't needed to, but I don't know
if i'd bowed to put cups on at the moment
with a middlely three armed so probably gets me out
of it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We'reabouts is home exactly, she'dn't be farm pretty close to
rain fairly.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, Mom and dad have a little block and gimme
a burn, so I'm up there. And then my grandparents
used to also own a farm and give me a
burn naspas so yeah, but we no longer have all
of that. So dad just works on the farm for
a local filth mass which he really enjoys as well,
(33:08):
which is good.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Dimmer Burn, what's that? Dimmer Burn? I love that name
and I've never heard of it, and I kind of
like to think I'm a bit of a geography buff
as well. You know.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Yeah, gimmer Burn, there is a hall and that's about us. So, oh,
there's actually a cricket purch Actually, I take that back.
So they've got that going for them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
A hall.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But they's sort of the way with a lot of
New Zealand these days, isn't it. But I'm going to
have to get there one day. Gimm Aburn, So tell
me what when you when you live in And I
have to be careful how I frame this relative isolation,
although I have been to Ranfuri in the money, I
alto you have to, I guess, have a certain resilience
and can do attitude to be able to crack into
(33:54):
high level sport. Can you sort of talk us through
what makes you tick on that front?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Definitely, I think that also probably come's worth the amount
of work that my my parents did for me at
a young age. You know, like you said, we're a
little bit isolated than the Minnetoto, so they did a
lot of driving for me to you know, the likes
of Cromwell, Queenstown, Juanedan all over the place just for
trainings and sports as well, because you know that age,
(34:25):
my brother and I we played a lot of sports
such as rugby hockey and also cricket, so there was
a lot of running rounds that they had to do
after us.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Wish.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Now I look back, I'm very appreciative of that because
there's a big reason for where I have got to today.
And then also you know, sending me off the boarding
schools also helps my dream of you know, trying to
crack top sports.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Of factors that have gone into where I've got it
got today. But I definitely put it down to my
mother and my father doing.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That for me.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Great here and say, and you think of about it
too when you don't not only their time, but you know,
you don't as a kid think about seventy cents a
kilometer when you know, you know, all those things, when
you add up all that sort of it's incredible what
appearance to now.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
I've been paying for my picture, So I fully understand that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, we get we work it out eventually, right sees
the sixty year old still feeling like he's in his twenties.
I guess with a community like the money at Alto,
how do people show how proud they are of you,
and you know, you're obviously integral to their day to
day life to it feels like an area of people
want are proud of their people.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Put it that way, Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm very
grateful for the community that I've grown up and you know,
I get a lot of messages every time I go home,
you know, talking to someone in the street, and you
know that goes a long way just for me as
a person and for my career as well. To see
the difference that I've made within my community community, especially
(35:56):
with you know, the young ones as well. I try
to go on to some trainings whenever I'm home and
things like that, which I'll be able to do a
bit more this year with being out and probably home
more so I am looking forward to getting more involved
in that space. But yeah, no, I do love the
way that my community has kind of supported me through
all of it. And then my dad was actually saying
(36:20):
a lot of them actually comes to games just to watch,
you know, they like to me. And then also you
know Kate and Bakeley who's also from the Mini Tato.
So yeah, very appreciative.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Hi, great stuff, Eden, what'sh you all the best with
your recovery and you know, I look forward to the
day when the people of the money are Toto doing
what the people of Curra are doing. You know, a
statue with Richie of course, statue of eating cars and
and ran fairly fantastic. Great to chat and what'sh you
all the best?
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Time old Heath cliff A nineteen seventy eight fields like
five minutes ago, and certainly we've seen the old. The
return of the likes of Kate, Bush and Prince been
our music today thanks to the show A Stranger Things. Hey,
(37:25):
thanks to our guest today, Hamish mar Tracy Brown, Stephan Vogel,
Eden Carson. I'm gonna shoot home now and no doubt
my lovely wife. As a day of work today, we'll
want to watch another episode of Funny Enough Farmer Wants
a Wife, so we'll churn into that. Hey, I've got
in front of me. Here's something spectacular from my good
friend Mel Bartlett down there in the Mighty Bulls, an
(37:47):
invitation to the Bulls Rugby Club the Big one hundred
and fiftieth Jubilee Celebration Garala Dinner invitation. I'm stoked about that.
Find out more if you're a Bulls rugby person. One
hundred and fifty of coming up at Easter. All I
need now is an invitation to the New Zealandsuring Championship
with the Golden Shears to take on Jamie McKay and
a repeat of when he dusted me absolutely cleaned me
(38:11):
up with a handpiece at the goal at the New
Zealand Insuring champs. There you go. That's been another edition
of the Country
Speaker 1 (38:23):
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