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Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Jane Smith, Tom Slee, Bruce Weir, and Mike McIntyre.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Turn round every now and then I get a little
bit normally and you never coming round.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Turn around every now and then I.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Get a little bit time listening to this down my dear,
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie McKay.
Apparently Bonnie Tyler is just awoken from a coma. More
about that later, but we're going to kick off the
show with the Prime Minister, as we do every Wednesday
here on the Country. Field Day's friendly fire from Winston

(00:47):
and whether wilding pines should attract carbon credits. Jane Smith,
North Otago Farmer Award winning environmentalist and champion Angus bullbreeder.
We saw a record this week one hundred and sixty
eight thousand dollars for an Angus ball black gold Tom Slee.
We're going to continue our series profiling the seven FMG

(01:11):
Young Farmer of the Year Grand finalists. He's the Otago
Southland Region winner, a young man with a fantastic farming pedigree.
His father's a former champion and who was quite literally
born to win the title. But can he win the title?
Maybe you be the judge on that one. Bruce Ware
from a rabobank. They've come out with their latest farmer

(01:32):
confidence survey. Farmer confidence has been dnted or dented? Are
we bit by the Middle East conflict? Maybe the worst
of that's behind us? Who knows? But also farmers are
reasonably upbeat despite all this geopolitical uncertainty around the world.
And Mike McIntyre will join us to have a look at,

(01:54):
excuse me, last night's global dairy trade auction down two
point eight percent, two in a row. Should we be worried?
We'll ask him all that's on the country between now
and one o'clock the PM to kick off proceedings. One

(02:23):
time I was gone. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon on a
Wednesday kicks off the country right field Day's debrief time.
A great turnout of NAT's Prime Minister. But is Mystery
Creek still your turf? By rights?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Well it's not, I mean in the political sense. Well,
I haven't really been hung up on that. I've been
really focused on making sure how we fire up their
culture sector. And you know they previously had a government
that went to war with I ran into a number
of farmers who said they couldn't go to the pub
and actually say, we're confidence that they were farmers in
the old days and they know they feel great pride
to do so. So I want them to know the

(02:58):
deeply loved respected. More importantly, they've got a government working with them,
trying to get Wellington out of farming, backing them and
getting the conditions for growth so they can get out
and do well. And they certainly are doing well.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Okay, could friendly fire, I wint LB and grenades be
your biggest threat in the election because he was larbing
a few grenades at Field days, Prime Minister.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Well I wasn't there to hear them. But you know again,
you know it was him and just Cindra are doing
the end of the oil and gas exploration which puts
massive pressure in our country. It was him and Shane
Jones running to plant a billion trees and do farm
to forestry conversions. It's it's Frankly Winston that doesn't support
a China FTA, let alone in Indian FTA. So I'm
not too worried about that. I'm more focused on I

(03:40):
just believe Let's do the right things. Let's focus on
what our farmers need us to be focused on as government,
which is get out of farming, well, get wellingson out
of farming, Simplify the regulations, open up opportunities overseas, get
our products, produce, increase and produce more, and get the
job done.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I got an email late last night from a guy
by the name of John in South camp I won't
say his second name, but he said, and this is
a fair question. I suspect I know your answer, But
he said, Jamie, a question for the Prime minister. Why
do they persist with a mindless Ets and Paris climate
agreement when good agricultural land is being planted with pine

(04:16):
trees for carbon credits, but seventy nine million has to
be allocated for the eradication of wilding pines to recover
good agricultural land. I'm sure we can all see the
irony in that. He goes on to say wilding pines
also sequest a carbon, but credits are not allocated as
is the case with millions of hectares of Fiordland forest

(04:37):
and National Park forestry throughout New Zealand due to the
political hypocrisy. How do you expect voters to pay carbon
tax on fuel due to the ETS and vote for
this stupidity. Now I know what your answer will be,
but give it to me.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Well, I just think you know, first of almost there
two separate issues. We can talk about Paris and we
can talk about etes. We can talk about wilding pines.
Wilding pines are an environmental disaster. I met with a
gentleman from South Marlborough who'd been working on.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
This issue for forty three year. The first raised it
will Rob.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Muldoon back in the early eighties.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
They are an environmental disaster.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
They threatened productive farmland, the sensitive water supplies, the impact
the biodiversity, got a massive risk of wildfires. There's more
than two million hectas across the country affected by them.
Left untreated, they sort of expand about five percent a year,
and that's about almost four billion dollars of economic threat
over fifty years. So you know, they're a real economic
and environmental reason for why we need to do something

(05:31):
about that, and that's why we've increased funding two and
a half times and then working with in partnership with councils,
farmers and owners and.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
To work our way through that. With respect to Paris.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
I mean, and what we're trying to do there, I mean,
as I said to you before, you know, it's in
our interests, our economic interests, our national interests to remain
in Paris at this time. We compete with other countries
that want to take us down. Large multinationals want would
love nothing if we came out of Paris to throw
our products off shelf, just punish our farmers and make
all Kiwis poorer.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
So and we want.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Agriculture increasing production and our economy growing.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
So it's not you know, and it's not Paris ranking
that hurt farmers.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
It was labor that hurt farmers, and we toore farmers
back in the past. So from but equally, we are
working in our Paris commitments. We're committed to the net
zero twenty fifty goals, which are the domestic goals we've
committed to. We're going to give the twenty thirty year
go But I've seen some reports. I want to reassure
everyone we're not sending billions of dollars in.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
Jobs offshore like the last lot had proposed. That's just
not going to happen.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
We're not going to make New Zealand's poorer by taking
money out of this country and sending it out to
someone overseas for something else.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
So we're not doing that stuff. So different approach.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay, Look, and I know the other issue was these
wilding pines are a massive seed source. But John does
raise a good point. Why aren't we getting carbon credits
for said wilding pines and all the native bush and
forestry and the likes of the Fieldland National Parks.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
But the way, yeah, I mean, I hear the point
that just that the way the way the climate baselines
have been constructed from pre nineteen ninety or whatever it.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Was, is that how that's calculated.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
But the wilding pines in themselves are a problem, and
farmers want us to do something about that. We've listened
to farmers. It was one of the arts I think
from the Federated Farmers as well as they thought about
what a government could do to help with the sector.
And that's what we're doing as a government.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
All right. Christopher Luxem good to catch up with you
at field Day's wonderful fundraiser for the Rural Support Trust.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah, thanks thanks for what.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
You have you eaten?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
The have you eaten the marmite sandwich in the apple.
I went to a lot of difficulty to make that
mar might sandwich.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
I might say, yeah, for your view, for your listeners.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I get up on stage and I was very nice
to Jamie. Actually I just I did say how Rowena
had been a very big help to him over the years.
And he presented me with that marmt sandwich and an
apple and said just at the beginning of the events.
So now I had it in the car maate on
the way home, which was lovely. So it was very
nice of Well, well.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I'm glad it didn't go to waste twice not what not?
Prime Minister, thanks for your time, so you take care
of Bybee. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon fourteen after twelve. Yes, apparently,
poor old Bonnie Tyler. Can I call a poor old
Bonnie Tyler seventy five years old? That makes her old,
doesn't It has woken from an induced coma following emergency

(08:27):
intestinal surgery. I know some of our politicians who could
do with some emergency intestinal surgery to implant some there
you go. Anyhow, up next Jane Smith. You never die
wondering what she's thinking. She was at the ballsal earlier

(08:48):
this week and ward as ward. Someone texts me on
five double nine as Warden Southern Marlborough or North Canterbury.
It's probably right on the board of it. That's where
the all was sold earlier in the week for one
hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars, breaking the record set
last year by seven thousand dollars. Tom Slee is our

(09:11):
Young Farmer finalist this year. This guy has a great
farming pedigree. We'll tell you about his family history. In fact,
his father and his uncle have both been former Young
Farmers of the Year. Bruce Ware from Rabobank the latest
Rural Confidence surveys out. And Mike McIntyre from Jardine. He's
the head of Derivatives. That's a fancy name for the
bloke who analyzes the global dairy trade auctions. Wasn't a

(09:35):
great auction last night? Could have been worse, apparently, according
to the commentators. Jane Smith next on the Country.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
All the time I.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Was falling in love. Now I'm only falling apart. There's
nothing I can do. A Jordarly eclipse of the hum
Nothing but a hard.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Gets you when it.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Gets you, when you're dud.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
She is a north Otago farmer, former winner of the
Balanced Farm Environment Awards and along with Harvey Blair, a
breeder of black Angus bulls. So that is like black gold,
Jane Smith, you must be rolling in it on your
north Otago farm.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Good afternoon, Jamie, Not at all, but I think you know,
it just shows the positivity and the buoyancy of the
sheaf and beef sector, well the entire primary production sector, Jamie.
And I think this is a new norm. I mean,
I think particularly sheef and beef farmers always sort of
look over their shoulder.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
And say, oh, I hope this last. I hope this lasts.
But actually the world wants.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Our free range, clean green protein, and so this is
the new norm. And I think we need to absolutely
make hey, why the sunshines, and also celebrate it. I mean,
the success in the livestock system has been is completely
based around efficient productivity and genetics are a key role,
have a key role in that, Jamie. So you're onwards

(11:07):
and upwards.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well you probably won't have caught up with us. But
in the latest Rabobank Rural Confidence Survey, the sheep and
beef farmers are the most confident of the lot. Talk
to me, because you were at the sale Tai Matti
Angus selling a ball for one hundred and sixty eight
thousand dollars, beating last year's record of one hundred and
sixty one thousand to tunguy how Hang tonguey how Angus

(11:29):
get it right? Who set the record last year?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Exactly, Jamie, And we were lucky to be at tangy
how last year because of course that high, highly priced
ball was sided by one of our fossil crete balls.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
And it's just again, I mean, I know that that's
the sort of the.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Peak of the bull sALS, but gosh, all of the
ball sales have been strong, and that is clearly a
factor of the positivity and the buoyancy and the fact
that people understand that genetics are the way forward.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
And you know, since nineteen.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Eighty four, Jamie, we've had to forge your own way
in the sector, and that is exactly what we've done,
intensive efficient productivity. And you know, again as a food
producing sector, this is happening despite all of our our
sector enter and our government trying to nail is on
things and waste time and money on things like emissions
and you know what actually Sainsbury and Tesco and Nessle

(12:19):
don't understand is you know, the natural carbon cycle and
that we actually are doing our very best past rays
free range, nutritionally dense, and we're not using our natural
competitive advantage as soon as we.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Go into those type of practices.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
And it was disappointing to see the Crown give another
fifty one million of taxpayer money to Eguy zero last
last week at the Field Days, Jamie, I mean again,
that's a call it what you like, but it's a
subsidy and it's playing out like an episode of a
bad episode of Clarks's Farm. I mean, it's something we
don't need and we don't want, and we, you know,
would be foolish to go down that sort of vaccine

(12:55):
bowls feed at a pathway when actually the world just
wants our free range meats.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Jamie.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm going to come back to Sainsbury's when you get
to the Pearly Gates, the drafting gates, Jane Smith, at
the Pearly Gates, it'll be a lot a wee way
away for you. I'm a lot closer than you, but
I think you might get these straight through Drafting Gate
because in the past couple of weeks, you and Blair
have donated ten thousand dollars from the proceeds of one

(13:20):
of your Angus balls to the Otago Rescue helicopter. And
then you offered a bottle of your plum gin and
it sold for two three hundred dollars at the Manetoto
Winter Feed competition. Who bought that big stew Duncan? I
know he's got plenty of money.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, you know, you think it would be stew but
now it was a guy called in a shout at him,
Darryl Richards from Bell clother and thank you to him
because he also donated a very good contracting package that
sold for thousands of dollars later on as well. So
I haven't had much feedback on my gin. And it's
probably highly illegal to sell homemade bootleg gin in the
public arena, Jamie. But you know again, it's Hargo South

(13:59):
and any helicopter Rescue Trusters is amazing that Graham Gale
and his team do an amazing job down there. They've
got the area that they cover, including the maritime area,
is more than a quarter of the entire country and
just what they do is fascinating. And I was fortunate
enough to sit beside Graham that evening and just see
even the messages coming through on his phone, because after ours,

(14:21):
he is still the man that gets all of those
emergency alerts. And I just found that fascinating. The technology
that they are investing.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
In is amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
So now we're really delighted to put that ball up
at our ballsale and can't wait to hand over that money.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Jamie or which it just honored to be part of that.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Talk to me about Sainsbury's and the woke eggs.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Oh, yes, so they've announced that they're only stocking white eggs,
the white hen's eggs on their shelves now because at
some point he has done a calculation around them being
and again this maybe justifiable, but I.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Mean in terms of what it's going to do for
climate change, it will not be justifiable.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
But apparently white eggs are a more efficient producing eggs,
and so they are getting rid of brown eggs, which
you know, a weave.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
It like the day that everyone got rid.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Of plastic straws and the store what is there a
million plastic bottles sold a minute around the world, So
you know, again it's just green washing. But I know,
apparently only white eggs, and you know, like when you
talk to local producers here and we obviously are very
I don't know a lot about the sector itself, but
we're very based around brown brown eggs and utilizing our
own homegrown feed. If you want to look at environmental

(15:28):
footprints and the most cost effective weigh it's probably it
maybe white hens and cages, But is that what the
consumer wants? And that's the thing, like, it's a very
very I guess, narrow focus if you're just talking about
emissions with exactly what they're doing. And again we've almost
fallen into that trap with our pasture raised systems too, Jamie.
So if everyone could just take even a minute, and

(15:49):
all I would need was the back of an envelope
and I could actually explain the biogenet methane carbon cycle,
particularly with pasture raised animals, and none of this would
have occurred. But anyway, SAME's each to their own. But again,
it's just another example of greenwashing, Jamie, and humans need
to sort of step up with it. I mean, it's
just another pointless exercise, Jamie.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Jane, I've got thirty seconds left. Are you prepping on
your north Otago Farm for the super al Nino.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Look, we're always everyone's a lot more resilient now Jamie,
for those dry conditions, and I mean we don't need
for dry, dry conditions because that can make you quite
conservative and your farming operation. But you know, again, if
you look at genetics both and animals and pastures, we're
pretty high altitude here, so it's probably the cold rather
than the dry that really limits us on our hell block.

(16:37):
And also there's also a lot of alarmism that goes
on in the in the sector isn't as from from
our supposed academic experts, and they could sort of change
change that any day as well. So look, we just
we just built a resilient system, and I guess we
look at ourselves as dry land specialists Jamie, and this
type of country does. So again, we've we've had much

(16:57):
worse and we've also had a really good run of
the last two three years. So I dare say there's
something around the corner Jamie, that we'll be ready for it.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Jane Smith, thanks for your time. Congratulations on selling a
ball for ten grand and giving every cent to the
Otago Rescue Helicopter. Go Well, thank you Jamie, Thank you,
Jane on behalf of everyone well at the bottom end
of the South Island. And Graham Gale, who runs the
Otago Rescue helicopter, does a fantastic job. He's the bloke
who took John Perriam and Shrek out to the iceberg.

(17:28):
I'm sure he is anyhow, support the rescue helicopters in
your region. I think Westpac does an excellent job of
funding those as well well. Up next, this is the
best farmer story of the day. A young man who's
trying to be the FMG Young Farmer of the Year.
His name is Tom Slee. His father has won the title,

(17:48):
his uncle has won the title, and his grandfather is
a dead set legend. Up next, Tom.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Slee, FMG Young Farmer of the Year twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
FMG proud principal sponsor since twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
We're continuing our series profiling the seven grand finalists for
the FMG Young Farmer of the Year title, which will
be decided in New Plymouth, Taranaki July two to four.
Here is a young man who was born or is
bred to win the title. He certainly got good breeding.
His father, Richard Sley, won the title in nineteen ninety nine.

(18:47):
His uncle Simon Hopcroft won at in two thousand and four.
And if that's not enough, his other uncle, Bevan Hopcroft,
is the best farmer in Southland, probably Southland and Otail.
Let's welcome on to the country, Tom Slee. Tom, you
certainly come from a really good farming pedigree. Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, here are you going, Jammy?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Well, I'm not going bad. More importantly, how are you going?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Not too lad yet? Someone's shining down here, so yep,
all's well.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Well.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I I want to go back a step. I've talked
about your father, Richard winning in nineteen ninety nine. I
want to go back to your grandfather if I can,
because he's a legend not only in south but in
New Zealand farming circles. Along with the guy by the
name of Owen Buckingham. Your grandfather Sid Slee was responsible
for the farmer protest when they ran the old fifteen

(19:40):
hundred skinny old Us down the main street of Imbicargo
ninth of June nineteen seventy eight, that's forty eight years ago,
and then they slaughtered them in a back section as
a protest against the freezing worker strikes. I've had a
lot to do with your grandfather Sid. He is a
champion bloke.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, it's pretty concertain. Yeah, he's always there for a
bit of a helpful advice. So yeah, pretty lucky to
have up the cool grandfather's release.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
It started. I guess from Sid down the Sleeve family
has been very successful in building a bit of a
farming empire. What part do you belong in?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, sorry, I'm yeah, I'm down the road on Eurie Farm,
near to a teprey. Yeah, contract marking thousand girls down
there for mum and dad.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Like most good young blocks, you went off to Lincoln University,
you got your ag colm degree. You spent a week
bit of time in the corporate world. I think as
a banker with the ben Z Was it not your
cup of tea or Tom Slee? Were you always going
to go farming?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I think always in the beck of my mind, I
was going to go farming. Yeah, But now that being
was it was real good. It could be jaw Yeah,
it's good to be beck sort of back on the
tools now.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
So I've been asking all the grand finalists that I've
spoken to so far, and that includes David Risby on
Wedesday Monday, and of course Ed Lavor yesterday, What are
your strengths and weaknesses? Start with your strengths. Come on, Tom,
don't be modest.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't know my strength. Yeah, we probably have done
a bit of everything. Really, we're not really strong in anything,
but yeah during time in a couple of years now
and growing up on the shep beef farm, and yeah,
don't leave of banking. So I suppose that would be
where my strengths.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Why what do you need to scrub up on? What
are you swatting hard for heading into this grand final?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh I'm not very good with machinery, Jamie, so that's
always a bit of a challenge for me. Yeah, and
a bit of public speaking, and yeah, probably probably thinking
outside the box. I'm a pretty simple sort of guy,
So yeah, I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Try And Tom, Tom, I think you're under selling yourself
a week bit there. Interestingly, Ed Lavor, who was on
the show yesterday, you're an endurance athlete. You've competed in
God's Own and other endurance events. How do you fit
all this into a busy life, a busy farming life.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Oh, you sort of seemed to make it where I
probably was doing the endurance race is a bit more
than the bank to be fair, I did one this
year and it just broke me for a month.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I actually did the god Zones with Ed the first
who the work is so yeah, could be competing against
him again, against him rather than with him.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well, he's obviously a good mate. You're the same age
both of you, twenty nine. This is your first appearance
at a grand final. I know you've been at regional
finals in the past. Am I right in saying that?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, yep, you're right, yep. Yeah, I competed in three.
I think this is my third regional this year, so
first time at the grand final. So good to make
it through.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well, Tom Slee, you've certainly got the breeding to get there.
To catch up, say hello to your grandfather Sidsley, he's
a champion bloken. Also say hello to your uncle Bevan Hopcroft.
As I said, he is the best farmer in south
and without a shadow of it out just ask him
and if you pick his brain you won't be a
mile away. Jamie good, Good to catch up.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Thanks, Tom Cool, keep slight up.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Tom Ce third of seven Young Farmer Grand finalists will
be profiling and the lead up to the July second
to fourth. I'm just trying to see who's tomorrow. Cam Clayton,
wycat Obay have Plenty tomorrow, right, Michelle's wandered into the
studio okay along with the Young Farmer final Michelle, they

(23:42):
have the region off. What's this okay?

Speaker 9 (23:45):
So FMG are a big part of this also they're
a big part of the Young Farmer as well. But
this is all about regions battling it out. You get
to vote for this, but as part of it they
have to go do a whole lot of challenges in
this year. It's all related to Farmstrong's a great cause.
It's a little things like take notice and connect, give
and give and connect to All their challenges relate to
that that all the agri I think it's the Agri

(24:05):
kids as well as the young farmers and everything have
to get involved in this. But at the moment why
kato Ablay of Plenty is in the lead with ony
one hundred and ninety six points and a Targo Southland
is sitting in second place. But last year Otargo Southland
took it out, but it was very close towards end.
These votes tend to go a bit crazy right beforehand,
but you've got to the fourth of July to get

(24:26):
your vote in.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
It's independent state.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Of course Otago Southland I'm a bit biased, of course,
being a good Southland who now lives in Otago. If
you go back through time over history, I think you'll
find more young farmer champions or Grand Final winners have
come from Otago Southland than anywhere. And we had a
real purple patch back in the late nineties early two thousands,
and of course one of those winners was Richard Slee

(24:50):
in nineteen ninety nine, Tom's dad and just going to
the grandfather Sid. I know he's a humble man. He
would hope me saying this, but he was a legend.
So ninth of June nineteen seventy eight, a group of
Southland farmers shocked the nation when they slaughtered fifteen hundred
sheep in the center of town and inver Cargo. The
two hundred and fifty farmers were protesting at continuing stoppages

(25:14):
and strikes at freezing works, which meant their animals weren't
being killed. One farmer said, as us, this is the
old news, the cast they've had their time use had
been booked and at the works since November, remembering this
was June. The following June. They were worth seven dollars
fifty head at Christmas, but six months later he couldn't
get them in and they were effectively worthless and there

(25:37):
was no grass left for them to eat. So since
Lee Owen Buckingham decided to take things into their own hands.
Imagine doing a protest like that. Now, what would Chloe say?
But they were desperate times, and they were desperate farmers,
and they made their point. I'll stick up for them
for what they did forty eight years ago on June
nineteen seventy eight. Up next Michelle was rural news. We'll

(26:01):
have a look at sports news for you as well.
Welcome back to the country. Very shortly, Michelle with the
latest and rural news. We'll have a look at sports

(26:21):
news for you. I'm excited, Michelle, state of origin number
two at the g tonight. I'll be tired on a
school night when I come in tomorrow. Okay, out here,
and I'm talking about on the farms of New Zealand.
There's no off switch. The day starts well before the
sun rises and the work carries on long after it
goes down. But we love it and we wouldn't have

(26:43):
it any other way because progress doesn't wait, ideas don't
stay still, and tomorrow doesn't come with an instruction manual
who wrote this this is very good. Farmlands are one
hundred percent owned by farmers and growers always have been,
so no matter what's keeping you up, what's sending you
down to the paddock, whatever plan you have for your business,

(27:06):
farmlands will be right there with you. Farmlands Rural never rests.
What a great positioning statement that is. They launched that
one at Field Days. Rural never rests well on farmlands
and thanks for keeping me off the dole queue or
well becoming a full time pensioner. Here's Michelle wat with

(27:27):
the latest and rural news, the.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
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Speaker 4 (27:39):
I could always go farming again, Michelle and shift Swede
breaks in Southland, but I must say as you get older,
you get you get soft. I've never been so cold
as I was on the Thursday morning of Field Days.
You were in there. We were having breakfast in the
Rabobank tent. It was fantastic. They had the heaters on,
but it was freezing.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
It was so cold. I think even frost down here
at overshadowed what we've had down in South lond and
Otago in the last where we were, and I still
live in central Otago where with minus six I'm pretty
sure it was colder than that.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, anyhow, it was half a frost. You have a
great day following it. What do you got on rural news.

Speaker 9 (28:14):
And reural news. Miniature apple marketer Rocket Global is claiming
a legal victory in China in a plant variety rights
case which it says reinforces its brand. The company says
Shenyang Intermediate People's Court ruled in Rocket's favor, finding that
an unauthorized nursery and grow operation had been producing, propagating,
and selling the prem A nine six apple variety without

(28:35):
a license. The court ordered the infringing prem A ninety
six plant material to be cut back and rented non viable,
removing unlicensed supply from the market and eliminating a source
of infringing Prema nine six seedling supply in China. And
that's rural news. You can find more at the Country
dot co dot nz or check out iHeart with the
Country podcast.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Sports on the Country with a FCO invested in your
farming success.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Our Football World Cup. Two first half goals from Manchester
City star striker Erling Harland has helped Norway to a
four to one win over a raq at Football's World Cup. Earlier,
a braced by Killian Mbapi helped France to an opening
three to one win over Senegal. So the big guns

(29:21):
Harland and Embarbie are coming out to play and Queensland
this is going to be so good at the G tonight.
Queensland and New South Wales are defending the reappointment of
referee Ashley Klein for tonight's second State of Origin match
at the MCG. Klein has been in the news for
losing more than four hundred thousand dollars gambling on horse

(29:43):
racing several years ago, but the Maroons coach Billy Slater
says it's unfair the matter is being aired publicly. Do
you question the decision making of a bloke who loses
four hundred grand gambling? Can you trust him to referee
the match? I will perhaps discuss that one tomorrow. Up next,

(30:05):
they released this morning. I think it's hot off the press.
You can find it on the website. It is the
latest Rabobank Rural Confidence survey. Bruce Ware up next on
the country to talk about that. It's hard, nothing but
a hard.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yet you went to.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Bruce Ware is the GM of Country Banking for Rabobank.
Great catch up with him at Field Days and we'll
talk about what a good vibe. There was a wee
bit later, but Bruce, I want to talk about your
latest June court a Farmer Confidence survey, Rural Confidence survey.
I don't know how much it costs Rabobank to get
a corporate to write this survey or commission this survey

(30:50):
for you. I could have written it myself. Bruce.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
Good afternoon, Your good afternoon, Jamie. Certainly not a surprise
or unexpected this survey. Yes, confidence was down a weebit
thirty one percent from last quarters of fourteen percent now,
but look that's largely to do on the back of
rising costs in the unseen and tea. What's happening in

(31:14):
the Middle East largely.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, well that's your headline, Middle East conflict, temps, farmer confidence,
but producers remain upbeat on agrisector outlook. We certainly saw
that at Field Days when we're looking at farmers, those
were holding a negative outlook on the agri economy. It
was pretty obvious that the main cause of concern was
rising input costs seventy four percent of than Bruce. But

(31:38):
those who were taking a more optimistic outlook rising commodity
prices fifty five they're doing some heavy lifting there and
increasing demand thirty three percent with the reasons for optimism,
and that kind of sums up where we are at
the moment. Good prices, cautiousness around what's happening geopolitically around

(31:58):
the world, and also cautiousness around the cost of farming.

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamien. I think it sums it up well.
You know, there's plenty for farmers to be confident, confident about,
you know, returns aside of largely sectors in great shape,
but at the same time is also plenty to be
cautious about too, And I think that's exactly what this
survey represents this time around. Certainly the positive idiot's coming

(32:24):
out of the Middle East will help confidence, like you say,
but as we all know, there's plenty of water to
go under that bridge yet before we can say the
situation is fully resolved.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Good to see sheep and beef farmers continue continuing, should
I say to be the most optimistic.

Speaker 10 (32:40):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamien. That actually just reflects the state of
the industry at the moment. You know, big, big demand
for our red meat protein. Good to see you all
on the up, a lot more positivity there, so you
certainly see you know, she can be certainly on the
front foot, which is actually outstanding to see.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Farmers are and have been guilty in the past. I'm
not so sure whether it's the case these days of
capitalizing confidence. If I can use that into land prices now,
land price expectations continue to be positive, with a third
of farmers expecting prices to increase over the coming twelve
months and less than one in ten expecting land prices

(33:21):
to fall. And I think one thing we've come to
see and farming perhaps in the last decade especially is
the fact that farmers are buying farms or land on
yield rather than the prospect of capital gain, and that's
how it should be.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (33:38):
Look, there's certainly a good demand for quality, Jamie, and
it's certainly one thing we have seen farmers are fairly
happy to pay for good quality. Those properties that are
probably not the quality are probably still struggling for their
increase in value.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
But look, it probably just reflects to.

Speaker 10 (33:56):
That farmers wal they're confidently staying ury, pragmatic, very cautiously optimistic.
But again, you know, the property property market is usually
determine what happens over a spring, what the situation will outlook.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Will look like then yes, and we'll all be holding
our breath to see what does come to pass the spring,
especially with the likes of fuel which is creeping down
nicely and fertilizer prices. I read a report on fertilizer
prices Bruce a bit like fuel is a price story
rather than a supply story. But a lot of that
fertilizer that's going to go on New Zealand farms this

(34:32):
spring has probably already been chucked on a boat and
is making its way here, so it won't be cheap
regardless of what happens in the Middle East.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
No, I think that's been really well flagged. You know,
fair costs are built into budgets. Right now we know
what we're going to have to pay largely, but on
the flip side, It's good to see there's still some
strength and commodity prices that are offset.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Hey, finally, Bruce Ware GM Country Banking for Rabobank, give
the fair days of mark out of teen.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
Oh look, Jamie, I have to give it ten out
of ten. I've been going for a sea a while now.
The way Kido certainly put on the weather, the vibe
was fantastic. People are really excited talking about the future.
I'm seeing Paul a lot of young people coming coming
through the tent and seeing them excited about the future.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Certainly, it was quite inspiring.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
So you have to be a ten out of ten.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I want to share your sentiment there because I thought
a lot of young farming couples were there and that
actually really vodes well for the future. Bruce Ware, thanks
for your time.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Thanks Jamie, good to check.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Good on your Bruce. You can read all about that
latest rural confidence survey on the Rubbobank website rubbobank dot
co dot nz. Some of your text traffic coming in
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ball sold for? Says Mike. I can tell you, Mike,
one hundred and sixty eight grand for an anger spall
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And it beat the old record set last year from
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(36:24):
here's someone else scolding me for my geography incident ignorance.
I did ask where the ward where the Taimatti starter
as based, whether it was in South Marlboro or North Canterbury.
It's in Marlborough. Ward is very much in Marlborough. You
should come and visit us. I'd like to. It's a

(36:46):
great piece of country up there. I might. I might.
When I'm going to Molesworth now tomorrow on the show,
we're going to have Chris Kelly, former chief executive of
Land Corp before they became parmu and married to Fran Wild,
former Mayor of Wellington, and we're going to have a
look at the idea floated by Jim Ward, the former

(37:06):
manager of Making Molesworth the nation's station. I reckon it's
a great idea. But up next it's Mike McIntyre as
we talk milk, and then I get welcome back to

(37:31):
the country and welcome back Bonnie Tyler from your induced
comer after your intestinal surgery. Mike McIntyre joins us from Jardin.
He's the head of Derivetive. He's got a fancy name
like that. We're going to have a look at last
night's Global Dairy Trade auction. Mike down two point eight percent,
home powder down three point one, skim three point six,

(37:53):
butter down two point four, cheese three point four. Should
we be worried about this as the second auction of
the new season? Afternoon?

Speaker 11 (38:01):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
I don't think we should be worried.

Speaker 11 (38:04):
I mean, obviously it's disappointing that it's headed off in
this fashion, but probably no surprise, and we've seen international
markets start to peel off, and then also the pulse
of the end of last week was probably even a
little bit more more disastrous than the result we got
last night. So you know, on balance, it's probably better
than what it could have been.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
People are talking about the correlation between milk prices and
the price of oil. Now that we might get peace
in the Middle East, is that a bad thing for
New Zealand airy Farmer's a bit of a facetious question there,
But what do you buy into the correlation argument?

Speaker 11 (38:38):
Well, I mean, obviously oil is the keen commodity, so
everything does follow or does have some sort of correlation
to that number. I think from a New Zealand perspective,
Obviously the freeing up of the streets is one thing,
and obviously there'll be some disruption around that, but just
being able to get out things like fertilizer where a
lot of New Zealand product comes from.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
That part of the world.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
So you know, obviously things were going to be tied
through to Christmas as it was, and so this may
give us a a bit of air to breathe as
we go through what could well be a tricky spring
in some a period at the back.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
End of the season.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Basically the world is a wash with milk, Like we're
up four and a half percent and annual production. I
think the rest of the world's chugging along quite nicely
as well.

Speaker 11 (39:19):
Yeah, and obviously our home market being China, hasn't really
turned up in either of the two previous events as well,
so that's again, they're probably another concern something that we
need to watch closely for Typically they wouldn't be there
in great numbers at this time of the year, but
it would certainly give us greater confidence if they were
to set up, because, as you say, there's a lot
of milk that we need to get rid of, both
from the back end last season and with all likelihood

(39:42):
we're going to start prety well again next season. Is
well this season as well.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
We will get a bit of a helping hand perhaps
from Donald Trump. In the US Federal Reserve. The exchange
rate looks like it's anchored below sixty US sins.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Yeah, I think obviously half the currency is already locked
in for the season, and so that's probably a good
thing given we've been but you know, as I said,
it would be really good to see some good activity
on the market, and last night's result was just that
touched as the morning.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Got on you.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Mike McIntyre from Jardin there my go to guy when
it comes to GDT Auctions. One more text in here.
Where's mister Russell or Assie correspondent rights Doug Well, Doug,
He's on tomorrow. He's been on the Country the Artist
formerly known as The Farming Show for thirty two years
on a Thursday. Tomorrow is no exception. We'll catch you then.

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