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Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Michael Harvey, Maegen Blom, Jack O'Connor, and Matt Bolger.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch are the latest from the land. It's the Country
podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Farmland's for fencing solutions
to keep animals secure.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good Afternoon News, Ellen, Welcome to the Country, Back and
Black by Akadaka. Look. I was going to kick off
the show with Christopher lux and Prime Minister Christoph Luxe
and caught up with them earlier this morning, but I
can't do that due to the breaking news here came
out just before midday that Dave Rennie is the new
All Blacks coach. I'm not sure how I feel about that,
being a Highlanders man down here in indeedan let's get
(00:53):
news talk, said be's magnificent leading rugby commentator Elliott Smith
and his take on it. Elliott, were you surprised, Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Afternoon, Jamie. No, Ultimately I probably wasn't surprised. It felt
like in recent days, you know, reading the tea leave,
he was listening to sources, talking to people. It felt
like Rennie, while being no means confirmed in the role,
probably had the inside running just on the basis of
a few things that I know, the All Blacks coaching
panel we're looking for, and you know, Jamie Joseph at
(01:23):
the outset when Scott Robertson was acted in January was
probably the front runner, but it felt like in the
last couple of weeks that Dave Rennie's stock affirmed. I
know that Steve Lancaster Dane Coles had gone up to Japan,
observed Kobe and Dave Rennie's working environment up there, spoken
to players, and observed what it was like up there
as well. It was ultimately fifty to fifty race, though
(01:46):
I think Jamie and Dave Rennies edged it out, and
I think it was two good candidates, and Dave Rennie's
perhaps record around culture and setting culture in quickly is
probably what got him over the line in the end.
You think back to his Chiefs tenure where he won
two Super Rugby titles twenty twelve and twenty thirteen after
taking charge of the year. You know, in circumstances where
(02:08):
he got a lot of young blood into the team,
a lot of faces that you know, you weren't necessarily
connecting with the Chiefs previously, he managed to bring them
in there. And I think that's certainly what the All
Blacks want, because they've said a big target Jamie on
On winning the World Cup next year.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Was Jamie Joseph too old school and hard assed, not
woke enough. And I'm not saying that Dave Rennies woke,
but you know what I mean, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, Look, I think that is a tag that's been
applied to Jamie Joseph, that he's old school, he trains
the players hard. And look, we all know that the
modern players different to the players of you know, the past,
and what they expect and what they want out of
training and what their conditioned to. But there was certainly
a tag that had been applied to Jamie Joseph that
he was probably you know, old school and maybe trained
(02:53):
the players. You know, we've heard stories about the Highlanders
and how much they trained lead out to the twenty
fifteen title that they won, and what he was able
to do there. You know, old school's not necessarily a
bad thing, but I think it had been a tag
probably applied to Jamie Joseph that might have been hard
to shake off. The All Blacks are such a big
beast now around, you know, their travel around the world
(03:15):
and player welfare and everything like that, that you know,
maybe those concerns were something that played into the panels
thinking when they came to rubber stamping. Rennie.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I got a text from one of my gossipy friends
who happened to be on the same flight back as
Dave Rennie from Tokyo on Monday evening. He says he
knew he was going to be the coach. Then interestingly
writes my text, we'll start the room of mill running here.
Interestingly he had Andrew Strawbridge with him. What did we
read into this? And I know it's early early days,
but who do you reckon he might pick us as
(03:45):
running mates.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think that name there, Andrew Strawbridge will be right
in the reckoning. Highly respected work with him at the
Chiefs then was a left out of the All Blacks
coaching staff when Scott Robertson took over. Has had a
stint at England as well. A lot of respect for
any Strawbridge and the skills work that he has done
with multiple teams through the years. I think that's something
that the All Blacks have been missing, is there's skills
(04:08):
you know, catch passes, deserted them at times over the
last few years. So if they can get someone like
Andrew Strawbridge on board that I think that would be
a good thing, and I think ultimately it's going to
be people that Dave Rennie's comfortable working with. It's a
head and run mission really through until next year's World Cup.
He's got seventeen matches on the cards this year, thirteen
of them test matches, and then another Rugby Championship next
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year and maybe another warm up test ahead of the
World Cup. It's not long. He's going to pick staff
members that he's comfortable working with. Suspect that Neil Barnes
might be one that gets to tap on the shoulder
as well. Other members are this coaching staff that he's
worked with. Both of the chiefs, maybe in Kobe as well,
would be likely to form the staff. So you know,
if you're an all blacks and cumbent assistant, because remember
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they left those roles untouched when Scott Robertson was dumped.
I think it's going to be a nervous time because
I suspect Renny's going to lean towards the people he
knows rather than the people he does.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Neil Neil Barnes is old school, hard ass.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Maybe they need that good cop bad cop thing going on.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Jamie Hey, he is going to honor his commitments with
the Kobe Steelers until the conclusion of the Japan Rugby
League One competition.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
When is that that is in May, I believe, so
it's not going to leave him much run time getting
through to the end of the season. So in fact
they are in positions to be in the playoffs too,
so it might even be late May early June. You
think that first test of his tenure is going to
be July the fourth against France in christ Church, not
a lot of lead time to come back to New
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Zealand and start thinking about various things. You'd have to
think that the next few months he's going to be
juggling two jobs. As much as he might say that
he's fully focused on Cobang closing out, then he's going
to have to be pouring over super rugby tape. You
would have to think talking to people on the ground here,
getting a sense of what this team needs to get
up to speed, because he's going to have to select
(05:57):
a squad very very quickly, so it doesn't leave him,
as I say, a lot of lead time over the
next few months. That would have been maybe one thing
with Jamie Joseph is that he would have been, in
theory able to leave the Highlanders pretty quickly. It wouldn't
have been ideal for the Highlanders to have their coach
depart mid season, but it would have been perhaps a
bit cleaner from an All Blacks perspective. But they've decided
(06:18):
that ultimately that risk of not having a great runway
through to that first Test is something they can live with.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Wow, Dave Rennie, then you All Blacks coach a l
at Just a final shot from me. I'm playing golf
this afternoon. He's been drawn in my four as fate
would have it with Warren Elcock, and I think he's
done a week bit of work with Jamie Joseph could
be an interesting afternoon, would be.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Very after a very interesting afternoon on the t's for you, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'll give you a ring later on. I'll be on
good on you. There we go. Elliott's Smith from News
Talks and lead rugby commentator. So if you've just joined
us breaking news, Dave Rennie is the All Blacks coach
ahead of Jamie Joseph. Of course, the other bloke plays
on our Wednesday afternoon golf group is none other than
(07:03):
Tony Brown and I just wonder what sort of effect
that had on the end Zaid Rugby's decision. If they
could have got Brown and Joseph together, would that have
swung it the Jamie Joseph way. All right, that's Elliot
Smith not upsetting the apple cart at all. It's good
to get it from the horse's mouth at the top
of the show. But I had planned to kick off
(07:23):
the show with a pre recorded interview I did at
eight o'clock this morning with the Prime Minister. You'll hear
that next on the Country when I Wednesdays on the Country,
(07:46):
the bloke running the Country kicks off the Country. That's
a lot of countries, isn't it. Well, there are a
lot of countries, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen that are in
trouble around this downright frightening world we live in now.
But thank the Lord, Praise the Lord for dairy farmers
GDT auction this morning up five point seven percent. They're
going to save you, They're going to save the economy.
(08:08):
The primary sector.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah, well, look them.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
The primary sector has been on fire actually the last year,
if we're honest about it. I mean, we've had really
good demand for dairy We've had outstanding demand for red
meat around the world, and there's actually more demand than
there is supply given the herds of shrunken other parts
of the world. And then you've actually got Will actually
had a ten year high as well, So it's a
great opportunity for WILL to innovate and need more value
while they're making a little bit of money. So look,
(08:31):
I mean, it's been fantastic performance from our dairy industry.
But they've also got a government. Frankly there from day
one and even before the election, we said that we
would back them, and we have, and we want to
get well into out of farming. We're getting rid of
the regulation it's been slowing them down, and we've been
out there in the world hustling creating new opportunities for them.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Trump, Trump, Trump and Trump. Where do you want to start?
Which one do you want to start with? Which Donald Trump?
Because there are several of them.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, Look, I mean, obviously the big news of this
week is the strikes in Iran. You know, these are
sort of independent actions of the US and as well,
we're not parties to them. We don't get prior warning,
we haven't had any subsequent briefing about it, and it's
up to them too, you know, that's clearly their actions.
But clearly this is not a new Zealand over many
governments has had long supported action or long supported actions
(09:15):
to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon that's really
bad for the world. We've tried a series of diplomacies
and they've failed to deliver and flo out international law.
As a consequence, they've been funding a lot of the
global terrorism organizations and importantly they've been you know, they've
been killing their own people in huge quantities, and so
you know, it's not a great regime. But obviously, yes,
(09:35):
it's concerning. And what we want to see now is actually,
you know, this to be resolved very very quickly. We
need to not have escalation happen across the region. We
want Cavilian life protecting, want international law uphealth.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, you're walking a bit of a political tightrope. Let's
be honest. You've got to try and please both sides.
Here are we But in terms of us as a
trading notion, because if we upset big brother, we're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
No, no, we honestly, you know, we have our own
independent foreign policy and we have our own view on
these things which I've tacked loaded over the last few days,
which is essentially.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well you did, you did a bit of misspeaking their
prime minister. Why don't you be more like Winston? Why
don't you just speak grumpy with the media.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, I'm not with important that the Prime Minister of New Zealand,
and I explained the situation to New Zealanders. And you know,
we've had long standing support for action that actually moves
the threat of a neuclear weapon, getting to Iran, removes
the sponsoring of terrorism, and ultimately, you know, Stott gets
a government in place that ends up ultimately ensuring it's
representative of the people. And so you know, those have
(10:39):
been our actions. We you know, look, with respect to
the strikes, that's the US and Israeli action, and or
we can hopeful now at a rapid resolution of it
and make sure that we're keeping Kiwis in the region safe.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You've talked about Trump's strikes on Iran. What about TV
one and TV three six pm news bulletin strikes on you.
They look like they're after you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, look, I'm I mean, I don't expect our media
to give us a free ride. They've got a job
to do, which is to hold a government to account
in a good democracy. But I think the public do
expect media to be fair and balanced, you know, And
we had some very positive news. As you know, crime
was a major source of anxiety for New Zealander's going
into the last selection. Quite rightly so, violent crime had
gone through the roof gang membership, retail crime. Remember we
(11:22):
had ram rays every single day, and we set ourselves
two goals on day one, which was to have fewer
victims of violent crime and also to lower serious youth offending.
It was two of our nine big targets that we've
been working hard on. We had some fantastic news. We
had forty nine thousand fewer victims of serious violent crime
and we've had a twenty two percent reduction in serious
youth offending. That is fantastic because that is New Zealanders
(11:44):
and victims that are are not getting bashed and hurts
and having trauma to deal with. And they were three
straightforward facts. Obviously, you know, we don't normally complain about
the news, but we felt we had this time because frankly,
we didn't think it was fair and balanced reporting at all.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So you owned TV one more part thereof.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, but you want you want your media always to
be independent of a government. I think that's been some
of the challenges is that you actually want your media
to play their role in a democracy, which is to
challenge a government. And we expect that, you know, we
understand their job and their role. But in this case,
you know, we felt we had to talk about it
and complain about it because you know, the public expects
(12:22):
media to be fair and balanced, and in this case
it clearly wasn't, and so we caught it up.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Do you see there are any in the two media
companies that you guys own the government TV in Zen
and are in Zered probably your biggest critics.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, that's not something that we can control. That is,
you know, we may well own them. But the point
is we don't want governments ever directing media outlets to
push a government line. They have a job to do.
We've got states broadcasters and state radio network as you know,
and their job is to like any media channel, is
the whole government took out. All we expect is that's
(12:55):
fair imbalance. In this case it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Maybe you need to start up your own social media
out like someone else in the world who seems to
push out most of his information via that. Are you
going to the Golden Shares and the World Sharing Champs
and Masterden.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, looking forward to but actually going there tomorrow and
given how well I sort of no. I was with
David Fagan at One Moomoo the other day and it
was quite cool being able to see him close up
action that means a legend day just handling sheep and
dealing with it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And Prime Minister, with all due respect, you went better
in the press conference with the TV giur I was
the other day than you did on the end of
the handpiece with Sir David Fagan.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, let's be clear.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't know I knew that, that's been clear.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yeah, but it was a privilege to be up close
with the legend, you know I like and to see
how he does it and it's just incredible how he
man and the animal. But as to all our sharees
and it's just incredible work, hard work, and now so
I want to go there tomorrow. There'll be this month
would be great, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You'll catch up with your doppel ganger, David Fagan, Christopher
Luxe and Prime Minister thanks for your time on the Country.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Good to be with you, Jamie, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes something we prepared a wee bit earlier this morning
in anticipation kicking off the show with it, but he
got gazumpt by Elliott Smith. The announcement if you just
if you've just joined us, is that Dave Rennie is
the new All Blacks coach. He has beaten Jamie Joseph
to the post or past the finishing post. He's going
(14:17):
to complete his commitments with the Kobe Steelers. Elliot said
that he's committed till April May there so he hasn't
got much of a run in before the midwinter series
kicking off I think in late journe early July. Interesting,
very interesting times. Indeed, more on that at the bottom
of the hour with Sports News. But up next on
(14:39):
the Country, it is Michael Harvey. We've got a couple
of trips across the Tasman today. He's the first of them.
He's from Rabobank and we're going to talk about that,
amongst other things. That magnificent global dairy trade auction overnight
up five point seven percent. Skim milk going crazy. But
like the world at the moment, I often say in
(15:12):
jest that no one at Rabobank has a short title. Well,
this man has no exception. His name is Michael Harvey,
based out of the Western Ireland, Australia. He's a senior
dairy and consumer foods analyst. Michael, Good, afternoon, New Zealand time.
The last time we chatted, you were just to play
an old senior dairy analyst, Jamie thinks have me.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
It's great to be back.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I think you could have added a senior vice president
in there somewhere, I think with my title, but we'll
go with dairy consumer foods analyst.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, Well we might talk about presidents a wee
bit later. I've got Matt Bolger coming up from Fonterra,
he's the MD of co Op Affairs to talk about
this global dairy trade auction overnight. So I'll keep the
powder a wee bit dry there, but gee five point
seven percent the index skim milk powder nine point one
percent as an outstanding result when you look at all
(16:03):
the turmoil around the world at the moment.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
That's right. Another strong brounds, which is great news for
the exports sector in New Zealand. And then just for
the broader price signal. It sends around the world around
the value of milk, and our clear observation is it's
clearly being led by the protein complex. You've got real
tightness in the supply of skiven mill powder and that's
what's really driving the recovery. We're seeing commodity prices and
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I think the GDT skim offerings are on the GDT
are quite low at the moment, so it's part of
that protein story is getting a bit of a boost
and that's providing upside for the broader dairy commodity complex.
But I think in the context of what's going on globally,
because there is a lot of milk supply still out
there in the world, but I think what it's showing
you is that there's some real bi sentiment is quite
high in terms of pricing in risk premium because of
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the global noise, and that's what you see coming through
in the results. You know a lot of buyers in
the Middle East, Southeast Asia, those sorts of regions pulling
forward some of their cover for New Zealand origin which
are declining seasonally and lower on the GDT auction. So
it's that risk premium being priced in for New Zealand
product at the moment in the short term, which is
a good result.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So effectively Australation and our clue Australia and here Australasian
dairy farmers are benefiting and the short term from the
war in the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
In the short term in terms of the dairy commodity complex,
absolutely here in Australia has been a little bit different.
We haven't actually seen the downside in farm gate pricing
that you have previously because we've got a different pricing
structure here. But certainly higher commodity prices in ust all
the terms has already provided them upside back into the
milk price in New Zealand, and we still think that there
might be a little bit more upside in the current
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season and it certainly provides a bit of momentum around
what the payout forecast might look like for the new season.
So yeah, it's beneficial from that perspective, But you can't
ignore the risk on the other side, Jamie, that you
know in amongst all this, there is some margin outlook
risks because of what might happen in the Middle East
if things continue to escalate, and it's in a drawn
(18:00):
out conflict, and that really sits around energy and the
supply and supply risks that come from things like fertilizers.
So that's the angle we're looking at you. I mean,
energy prices are already up, there's more upside risk if
it's a conflict is prolonged, and the higher they stay
for longer, the more problematic that becomes for the global
economy and everything else. So we're watching that end. But
(18:21):
of course we know that there's a lot of fertilizer
that comes out of the Middle East region into our
markets in this part of the world. So it's the
price risk, but it's also supply risk if you can't
actually get the product into market. So there's a bit
of a watch on that perspective, and that's the key
thing we'd be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And obviously there's going to be a bit of a
watch on infistrates. More importantly, inflation the number one enemy
of the economy.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
That's right, I mean, and that's the risk for most
economies around the world now is if you do get
higher oil prices for longer, that that is problematic for
global economies and global growth, and then that does change
potentially the outlook around central banks and their policy and
money try policy mod it might do for interest rates,
but also then how that feeds into the currencies and
(19:05):
things like that. And the other thing to think about
in all this, particularly with a dairy hat on, is
clearly high oil prices generally dragged the grain and oil
seed complex higher, so that can mean clearly a spike
in feed costs, which have been quite affordable for a
lot of dairy farmers around the world at the moment.
If you get upside risk in terms of feed prices,
that does change the margin outlook for producers outside of
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New Zealand, and it might actually change the outlook around
milk production growth as well. So there's a few layers
to it all, but clearly, yeah, absolutely, the whole discussion
around energy prices being up, what that means for global
economies and how central banks will respond to that will
be a clear clear watching them coming months.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How long you've been a vice president for that's a
very americanized title, Michael.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Harpy, No, not a vice president. Just to see your analysis, Rabobank.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's just a plain old senior dairy and consumer foods analysts.
Great to have your analytical mind on the country today.
Thanks for your time, Thank for having me. Thanks Michael.
It's twenty eight away from one year with the country.
Brought to you by Farmlands and I Susie Dave Rennie
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Here's the new All Blacks coach speaking, Jamie Joseph to
the job up. After the break we'll update the latest
and rural news and sports news and see what the
news wires are saying about the appointment of Dave Rennie.
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(20:36):
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Locals, Doggist no Good, Afternoon Michelle Watt fun And Game.
JAMIE i was going to, Say Jamie joseph is not
the New All blacks, Coach Dave annie Is sport and.
Attack what's happening in rural news okay And royal.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
News of, course the conflict in The Middle. East lots
of things on watch there at the, moment and fertilizer
price is a tip to jump because of that conflict
threatening global. Supply But Ravenstown have says it has enough
fertilizer in the country on the way to cover, autumns
so any price impacts due to the war in The
Middle east won't be felt. Immediately AND i don't actually, Notice,
jamie but The Middle east is a significant player in
(22:29):
the fertilizer, trade with about forty percent of nitrogen fertilizers
coming from the.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Region did you know, That, well do you realize what
nitrogen fertilizers are made out?
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Of?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, oil, oh, yes as you, no good, point, well fossil.
Fuel so, yeah it stands to reason that that's one
of the big. Issues Cameron bagby talked about that. One
we're sending stuff up the or through The strait Of,
hormuz but we've got to bring stuff down the other,
way and fertilizer is one of. Them there you. Go
that's rural news has or sport on.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The country WITH afco invested in your farming, success.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So we have an updated our news. Wise BUT i
can tell you That Dave rennie is the New All blacks. Coach,
well wat's his? Background i'm, Sorry i'm just getting Textsan,
ah thank you for.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
That.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Texter what is his? Background he led The New zealand
under twenty team to three Consecutive Junior World championships between
two thousand and eight and twenty. Ten he had a
great team in there as, Well chiefs back to Back
Super rugby titles twenty twelve and twenty, thirteen and took
The Glasgow warriors to A pro fourteen final and twenty
(23:40):
nineteen as he, was AS i, said the head coach
of The wallabies between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three
till they decided to go With eddie and he currently
has The Kobe steelers as title contenders in The Japan
Rugby League one. Competition he will he will honor his
commitments there, apparently according To Alliott. Smith and here he'll
(24:02):
be back In. May it's not much of a lead
in to The july home series Against, France italy And.
Ireland and that is your. Sport up, next we are
going to chat to the twenty twenty Five zanda McDonald award,
winners one each side of The. Tasman am meganblom here
In New, Zealand jack O'Connor across the, ditch, sucker, please old.
(24:31):
Black it's life on the road for me at the.
Moment Tomorrow i'm off to The Golden, shares get back.
Home Then i'm off to The Impact summit and The
zander McDonald. Awards Then i'm home again and Then i'm
off to The Wanaka show and The Lincoln university. Fundraiser
so it's going to be a fun week ahead of.
Me here's a couple of people who are going to
have an interesting. Week they are the twenty twenty Five
(24:53):
xander McDonald award, winners one From, Australia jack, O'Connor one
From New, Zealand megan. Blom looking forward to catching up
with you two in person next week in Christ. Church.
Jack we will start with you From harden In New South.
Wales when are you jumping on the plane to come.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Over, yeah that's, Right. Jamie thanks and good to touch base.
Again so, yeah we're our our family farming business is
located in Between hard And, young so about four hours
sort of southwest Of. Sydney But i'll be heading To
canberra the very early hours Of, sunday, Sorry monday, morning
(25:33):
the game Via sydney and then coming out of Christ. Church,
yeah coming in in hot to the conference and the
summer mate looking very, much very much looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
IT i had to look up hard In New South
wales on the, Map, jack AND i see you're kind
of north Of canberra And Wogga woggers sort of in that. Area,
yeah well west Of. Sydney as you, say how's your
season been, going because you're the manager of your farm's
eight thousand hectare mixed farming.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Operation, yeah that's, right Nice, Jamie IT'S i was quite
a quite a fortunate end of our. Harvest our main
harvest period is sort of through the end Of november And,
december and, desplite the, desplite the dry conditions we our
subsort moisture sort of hell of us in Good stead
towards the end of our season and really and really
(26:21):
enabled us to finish those crops off. Well so we
were very we're very happy with the result, there and
to obviously get it in Before christmas is a big
game for. Us uh, yeah since that, Time, JAMIE i,
Mean i'm Always i'm always hesitant to, say you, know
how dry things get and tight things, get because that's obviously,
relative and a lot of other places doing it a
lot tighter and tougher than. Us but you, Know january
(26:42):
In february where you, know we're on the dry side for,
us which being a mixed a, mixed a mixed timing,
business we've finished a lot of, finish a lot of
marino and crossbred lambs so and obviously through that main
joining period for us, too so that's always always tricky to.
Balance but, yeah in recent, Week, jamie very fortunately we've
been under some really good showers of rain a couple
(27:05):
of inches now and, counting so you, KNOW i certainly
putting us in a good, position getting some grating crops
in as we, speak and then heading through to our
main sort of selling window for this upcoming. Season also
in the midst of all that bit of, sharing and
obviously is twenty of your listeners will know wet sheet
at this point is never, good so you know. That
(27:28):
at the same time, too where we're welcoming a bit of,
Rain so just, yeah a, juggle a juggle as.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Always check o'connory at the twenty twenty Five santa McDonald
award winner Representing, australia let's welcome back onto the. Show
the twenty twenty Five New zealand Winner Megan, blom dairy
farmer's daughter From belfer And Northern, southland just up the
road from the capital Of Northern, Southland, Riversdale. Megan but
these days you're into. Aquaculture you are the operations manager
(27:58):
at The Mills Spay Muscles farm In.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
MARLBOROUGH i am, yeah and thanks for never letting me
forget my, Roots. Jamie i'm definitely still a Proud, southlander
but based In marlborough these.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Days.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Yeah So i'm managing Mills Day, muscles which is part
of our muscle farming business up in the top of The.
South so we're growing muscles in The Marlborough sounds and
In Golden bay and then selling them Through Millsday muscles
into the domestic. Market so the muscle tanks around The
South island and some of The North island will Be
(28:32):
Mellsboy muscles if you're looking for. Them but, yeah it's.
AWESOME i love. It, yeah And i'm really looking forward
to the summit next. Week it'll be good to see you.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
There which one's going, better The Marlborough Muscle farm or
The Belfer Southland Dairy.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Farm, well you, know it's definitely a mixed, business so
each have their own challenges and their own highs and.
Lows but in, general it's a good season across, board
which is pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Cool you're a founding member Of Young fish AND zed
And i'm thinking what the hell is? That but it's
a group that connects young professionals in the seafood. Industry,
yeah so Young.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Fish you, know we shamelessly stole the idea From Young,
farmers but basically it's a network of people who work
in the seafood industry In New. Zealand so that's anywhere
from like marine farming and actual onboard, fishing like through
the sciences and then into sales and, marketing, processing. Production
(29:33):
we've even got a maritime lawyer in the, group so
it's really anyone who's got a finger in the. Pie but,
yeah it's just about bringing us together so we know each,
other we can bounce off each other and just build
that sense of community amongst young people in. Seafood but,
yeah it's pretty cool. Group next week it's The Mighty
Muscle festival In, havelock so we've Got Young fish. There,
(29:57):
yeah living up a. Storm we've got a whole bit
young for games where the muscle farmers will compete against
each other with a whole lot of. Competitions But, yeah
it's a really rewarding group to be part of cool
bunch of.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
People just to finish on you. Two excuse my, IGNORANCE
i don't know the answer to this. One that's Why
i'm asking the. Question no such thing as a dumb.
Question have you done your trip? Yet your studied trip
as part of your winning prize from last year where
you get in the private jet and zoom all Over
australia And New.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Zealand we sure.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Did last year we went In september To, australia and
then this year we scheduled to go In august Around New,
zealand which will be. Epic but The australia trip was.
UNBELIEVABLE i just couldn't believe the things we saw and
the people we. Met they put on a real cool
itinery for. US i wanted to see examples of people
(30:51):
who are doing really good, marketing and ALSO i wanted
to see the scale that can be found In australia
that we might not quite see here In New, zealand
just the large like land messes and just the scale
of the. Businesses so they really delivered on that for.
Me and, yeah we above and.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Beyond, Okay JACK i TAKE i take it that you're
looking forward to doing The New ZEALAND.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Trup, yeah very much, So, jamie AND i couldn't agree With.
Megan's With megan's that were there before about the. Trip
it was fantastic Around australia to just connect with some,
people really really special people and captains of, industry you
know on The australian And New zealand side that have
just really grown and expanded and diversified businesses at, scale
(31:39):
Like meghan, said and to really get deep a deeper
understanding of you, know of their journeys and their businesses
and their, mantras and it's real insight into into some
pretty pretty special. Operations and then, yeah moving forward into
what's looking like a fantastic trip In august That matt
(32:00):
wife And shane And jane and a couple others are
putting currently putting together for us and some of the
some of the people that you know that are sort
of being flowed around as potentials at the. MINOR i
think it's some pretty pinchy self, moments that's for.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Sure, okay, Guys jack, O'Connor Megan blom the twenty twenty
Five xander McDonald award. Winners we'll see you in Christ
church next. Week thanks for your time.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Today, awesome thanks great looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It thanks. Guys it is ten away from. One we
have a New All blacks. Coach his name Is Dave.
Rennie the press conference with there'll be a press conference
With New Zealand rugby Chair David kirk and the New
All blacks Coach Dave. Rennie it'll be live on News
talk said be at two. Pm Up Next Matt boulger From.
Fonterira Matt bolger's his. Name he Is fontira's managing director
(32:55):
of co Op affairs and the son of the former
Late Great Prime Minister Tim, bulger WHO i mistakenly Called Sir,
jim but he didn't want a. Knighthood. MATT i want
to get back onto the serious issues of the. Day
i've touched on this one With Michael harvey From. Rabobank
but this five point seven percent jump surge almost in
THE gdt with skim milk powder nine point one. PERCENT
(33:17):
i know that's a great, result but was it?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Unexpected you, look the markets doing some interesting things at the,
moment but we it is a great. Result that's five
in a. Row, now since the start of the year
of upward, results the futures were looking positive AND i
guess you, all there's a lot of milk growth out
there around the. World buyers are comfortable at these, prices
(33:41):
and so, yeah it's great to have another good result.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
OVERNIGHT i hate to use the ten number on, you but,
geez we've got to be looking at.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It, matte come on wondering how long it it take
you to?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
WELL I i just wanted it was my second, question
not my first, one but it's got a sniff of
ten dollars about.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
It look, well we'll be out at the end Of
march with our first half, results and of course we'd
always look at milk, prices but, no obviously we'd just
recently put the price back up to the midpoint of
nine point fifty and as their. Outlook BUT i guess
if there's any any headline thing, here it is just
it's a world of, volatility both what's happening In iran
(34:20):
in the last few, days but also around supply and.
Demand so while it's looking pretty, positive there's still a
pretty volatile world out.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There there's a lot of supply out, there there's almost
a milk Blutt it seems to be all finding a
home at the. Moment but where where's The New zealand season?
Tracking because we know for a lot of The North,
island which was getting dry Before, christmas they've had plentiful,
rain too much in some. Cases so nearly all Of
New zealand's in a really good grass growing situation at the.
(34:48):
Moment so You're i'm assuming That fonterra and the dairy
industry will finish the season with a bit of a wet.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Sale, yeah where has? Been has been an interesting summer
in lots of, ways and of course first thing to
note as well it's good for grass, growth has the
actually been a lot of pretty challenging weather events, around
whether that's wind or rain and the whole. Lot but
certainly Where i'm based in The, waikato you, know it's
(35:14):
looking very green for Early. March so, yeah across the
board In New zealand we're probably about three percent up
on last year with really good grass growth and obviously
positive milk prices meaning that farmers are keeping. Going so despite,
that in despite all the milk coming out of THE
us And, europe the demand's still, there SO i guess
(35:37):
the key thing there is that demand for dairy is,
strong and it's not just one region in one, country
it's Across, China Southeast, Asia Middle, east across the. Board
it's been very.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Positive We're James robertson very dynamic young, man chief of
staff at twenty nine years of age For. Fonterra on yesterday's,
show he was wearing His Young farmer or Former Young
farmer of The year. Hat but WHEN i asked him
About fonterra and The Middle, east naturally is chief of.
Staff he was very concerned about all the people you've
(36:07):
got in The Middle. East they're all safe and.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
SOUND i take, it, yeah they are In thanks for.
ASKING i think that's the first thing we think of,
is of course the human. Side so it's a pretty
unstable environment there, is ville know from watching the. News
so we've got staff based in an office to buy,
there and you have got a manufacturing facility In saudi as.
Well all of our people are safe and accounted for
(36:33):
in sheltering and of course we're watching that. Side we're
also watching the logistics side because obviously this is pretty
disruptive on shipping and the team are working very closely
with the shipping companies to see how that's going to play.
Out but of course it's very early days AND i
think it's probably unclear exactly how that's going to develop
over the next couple of.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Weeks Matt, Bolger Managing director co Op affairs For, Fonterra
Happy days For New zealand dairy. Farmers today was a great.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Result, yeah, great Thanks, Tommy, well Thanks.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good Afternoon News, Ellen, Welcome to the Country, Back and
Black by Akadaka. Look. I was going to kick off
the show with Christopher lux and Prime Minister Christoph Luxe
and caught up with them earlier this morning, but I
can't do that due to the breaking news here came
out just before midday that Dave Rennie is the new
All Blacks coach. I'm not sure how I feel about that,
being a Highlanders man down here in indeedan let's get
(00:53):
news talk, said be's magnificent leading rugby commentator Elliott Smith
and his take on it. Elliott, were you surprised, Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Afternoon, Jamie. No, Ultimately I probably wasn't surprised. It felt
like in recent days, you know, reading the tea leave,
he was listening to sources, talking to people. It felt
like Rennie, while being no means confirmed in the role,
probably had the inside running just on the basis of
a few things that I know, the All Blacks coaching
panel we're looking for, and you know, Jamie Joseph at
(01:23):
the outset when Scott Robertson was acted in January was
probably the front runner, but it felt like in the
last couple of weeks that Dave Rennie's stock affirmed. I
know that Steve Lancaster Dane Coles had gone up to Japan,
observed Kobe and Dave Rennie's working environment up there, spoken
to players, and observed what it was like up there
as well. It was ultimately fifty to fifty race, though
(01:46):
I think Jamie and Dave Rennies edged it out, and
I think it was two good candidates, and Dave Rennie's
perhaps record around culture and setting culture in quickly is
probably what got him over the line in the end.
You think back to his Chiefs tenure where he won
two Super Rugby titles twenty twelve and twenty thirteen after
taking charge of the year. You know, in circumstances where
(02:08):
he got a lot of young blood into the team,
a lot of faces that you know, you weren't necessarily
connecting with the Chiefs previously, he managed to bring them
in there. And I think that's certainly what the All
Blacks want, because they've said a big target Jamie on
On winning the World Cup next year.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Was Jamie Joseph too old school and hard assed, not
woke enough. And I'm not saying that Dave Rennies woke,
but you know what I mean, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, Look, I think that is a tag that's been
applied to Jamie Joseph, that he's old school, he trains
the players hard. And look, we all know that the
modern players different to the players of you know, the past,
and what they expect and what they want out of
training and what their conditioned to. But there was certainly
a tag that had been applied to Jamie Joseph that
he was probably you know, old school and maybe trained
(02:53):
the players. You know, we've heard stories about the Highlanders
and how much they trained lead out to the twenty
fifteen title that they won, and what he was able
to do there. You know, old school's not necessarily a
bad thing, but I think it had been a tag
probably applied to Jamie Joseph that might have been hard
to shake off. The All Blacks are such a big
beast now around, you know, their travel around the world
(03:15):
and player welfare and everything like that, that you know,
maybe those concerns were something that played into the panels
thinking when they came to rubber stamping. Rennie.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I got a text from one of my gossipy friends
who happened to be on the same flight back as
Dave Rennie from Tokyo on Monday evening. He says he
knew he was going to be the coach. Then interestingly
writes my text, we'll start the room of mill running here.
Interestingly he had Andrew Strawbridge with him. What did we
read into this? And I know it's early early days,
but who do you reckon he might pick us as
(03:45):
running mates.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think that name there, Andrew Strawbridge will be right
in the reckoning. Highly respected work with him at the
Chiefs then was a left out of the All Blacks
coaching staff when Scott Robertson took over. Has had a
stint at England as well. A lot of respect for
any Strawbridge and the skills work that he has done
with multiple teams through the years. I think that's something
that the All Blacks have been missing, is there's skills
(04:08):
you know, catch passes, deserted them at times over the
last few years. So if they can get someone like
Andrew Strawbridge on board that I think that would be
a good thing, and I think ultimately it's going to
be people that Dave Rennie's comfortable working with. It's a
head and run mission really through until next year's World Cup.
He's got seventeen matches on the cards this year, thirteen
of them test matches, and then another Rugby Championship next
(04:29):
year and maybe another warm up test ahead of the
World Cup. It's not long. He's going to pick staff
members that he's comfortable working with. Suspect that Neil Barnes
might be one that gets to tap on the shoulder
as well. Other members are this coaching staff that he's
worked with. Both of the chiefs, maybe in Kobe as well,
would be likely to form the staff. So you know,
if you're an all blacks and cumbent assistant, because remember
(04:52):
they left those roles untouched when Scott Robertson was dumped.
I think it's going to be a nervous time because
I suspect Renny's going to lean towards the people he
knows rather than the people he does.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Neil Neil Barnes is old school, hard ass.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Maybe they need that good cop bad cop thing going on.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Jamie Hey, he is going to honor his commitments with
the Kobe Steelers until the conclusion of the Japan Rugby
League One competition.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
When is that that is in May, I believe, so
it's not going to leave him much run time getting
through to the end of the season. So in fact
they are in positions to be in the playoffs too,
so it might even be late May early June. You
think that first test of his tenure is going to
be July the fourth against France in christ Church, not
a lot of lead time to come back to New
(05:36):
Zealand and start thinking about various things. You'd have to
think that the next few months he's going to be
juggling two jobs. As much as he might say that
he's fully focused on Cobang closing out, then he's going
to have to be pouring over super rugby tape. You
would have to think talking to people on the ground here,
getting a sense of what this team needs to get
up to speed, because he's going to have to select
(05:57):
a squad very very quickly, so it doesn't leave him,
as I say, a lot of lead time over the
next few months. That would have been maybe one thing
with Jamie Joseph is that he would have been, in
theory able to leave the Highlanders pretty quickly. It wouldn't
have been ideal for the Highlanders to have their coach
depart mid season, but it would have been perhaps a
bit cleaner from an All Blacks perspective. But they've decided
(06:18):
that ultimately that risk of not having a great runway
through to that first Test is something they can live with.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Wow, Dave Rennie, then you All Blacks coach a l
at Just a final shot from me. I'm playing golf
this afternoon. He's been drawn in my four as fate
would have it with Warren Elcock, and I think he's
done a week bit of work with Jamie Joseph could
be an interesting afternoon, would be.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Very after a very interesting afternoon on the t's for you, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'll give you a ring later on. I'll be on
good on you. There we go. Elliott's Smith from News
Talks and lead rugby commentator. So if you've just joined
us breaking news, Dave Rennie is the All Blacks coach
ahead of Jamie Joseph. Of course, the other bloke plays
on our Wednesday afternoon golf group is none other than
(07:03):
Tony Brown and I just wonder what sort of effect
that had on the end Zaid Rugby's decision. If they
could have got Brown and Joseph together, would that have
swung it the Jamie Joseph way. All right, that's Elliot
Smith not upsetting the apple cart at all. It's good
to get it from the horse's mouth at the top
of the show. But I had planned to kick off
(07:23):
the show with a pre recorded interview I did at
eight o'clock this morning with the Prime Minister. You'll hear
that next on the Country when I Wednesdays on the Country,
(07:46):
the bloke running the Country kicks off the Country. That's
a lot of countries, isn't it. Well, there are a
lot of countries, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen that are in
trouble around this downright frightening world we live in now.
But thank the Lord, Praise the Lord for dairy farmers
GDT auction this morning up five point seven percent. They're
going to save you, They're going to save the economy.
(08:08):
The primary sector.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah, well, look them.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
The primary sector has been on fire actually the last year,
if we're honest about it. I mean, we've had really
good demand for dairy We've had outstanding demand for red
meat around the world, and there's actually more demand than
there is supply given the herds of shrunken other parts
of the world. And then you've actually got Will actually
had a ten year high as well, So it's a
great opportunity for WILL to innovate and need more value
while they're making a little bit of money. So look,
(08:31):
I mean, it's been fantastic performance from our dairy industry.
But they've also got a government. Frankly there from day
one and even before the election, we said that we
would back them, and we have, and we want to
get well into out of farming. We're getting rid of
the regulation it's been slowing them down, and we've been
out there in the world hustling creating new opportunities for them.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Trump, Trump, Trump and Trump. Where do you want to start?
Which one do you want to start with? Which Donald Trump?
Because there are several of them.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, Look, I mean, obviously the big news of this
week is the strikes in Iran. You know, these are
sort of independent actions of the US and as well,
we're not parties to them. We don't get prior warning,
we haven't had any subsequent briefing about it, and it's
up to them too, you know, that's clearly their actions.
But clearly this is not a new Zealand over many
governments has had long supported action or long supported actions
(09:15):
to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon that's really
bad for the world. We've tried a series of diplomacies
and they've failed to deliver and flo out international law.
As a consequence, they've been funding a lot of the
global terrorism organizations and importantly they've been you know, they've
been killing their own people in huge quantities, and so
you know, it's not a great regime. But obviously, yes,
(09:35):
it's concerning. And what we want to see now is actually,
you know, this to be resolved very very quickly. We
need to not have escalation happen across the region. We
want Cavilian life protecting, want international law uphealth.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, you're walking a bit of a political tightrope. Let's
be honest. You've got to try and please both sides.
Here are we But in terms of us as a
trading notion, because if we upset big brother, we're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
No, no, we honestly, you know, we have our own
independent foreign policy and we have our own view on
these things which I've tacked loaded over the last few days,
which is essentially.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well you did, you did a bit of misspeaking their
prime minister. Why don't you be more like Winston? Why
don't you just speak grumpy with the media.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, I'm not with important that the Prime Minister of New Zealand,
and I explained the situation to New Zealanders. And you know,
we've had long standing support for action that actually moves
the threat of a neuclear weapon, getting to Iran, removes
the sponsoring of terrorism, and ultimately, you know, Stott gets
a government in place that ends up ultimately ensuring it's
representative of the people. And so you know, those have
(10:39):
been our actions. We you know, look, with respect to
the strikes, that's the US and Israeli action, and or
we can hopeful now at a rapid resolution of it
and make sure that we're keeping Kiwis in the region safe.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You've talked about Trump's strikes on Iran. What about TV
one and TV three six pm news bulletin strikes on you.
They look like they're after you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, look, I'm I mean, I don't expect our media
to give us a free ride. They've got a job
to do, which is to hold a government to account
in a good democracy. But I think the public do
expect media to be fair and balanced, you know, And
we had some very positive news. As you know, crime
was a major source of anxiety for New Zealander's going
into the last selection. Quite rightly so, violent crime had
gone through the roof gang membership, retail crime. Remember we
(11:22):
had ram rays every single day, and we set ourselves
two goals on day one, which was to have fewer
victims of violent crime and also to lower serious youth offending.
It was two of our nine big targets that we've
been working hard on. We had some fantastic news. We
had forty nine thousand fewer victims of serious violent crime
and we've had a twenty two percent reduction in serious
youth offending. That is fantastic because that is New Zealanders
(11:44):
and victims that are are not getting bashed and hurts
and having trauma to deal with. And they were three
straightforward facts. Obviously, you know, we don't normally complain about
the news, but we felt we had this time because frankly,
we didn't think it was fair and balanced reporting at all.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So you owned TV one more part thereof.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, but you want you want your media always to
be independent of a government. I think that's been some
of the challenges is that you actually want your media
to play their role in a democracy, which is to
challenge a government. And we expect that, you know, we
understand their job and their role. But in this case,
you know, we felt we had to talk about it
and complain about it because you know, the public expects
(12:22):
media to be fair and balanced, and in this case
it clearly wasn't, and so we caught it up.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Do you see there are any in the two media
companies that you guys own the government TV in Zen
and are in Zered probably your biggest critics.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, that's not something that we can control. That is,
you know, we may well own them. But the point
is we don't want governments ever directing media outlets to
push a government line. They have a job to do.
We've got states broadcasters and state radio network as you know,
and their job is to like any media channel, is
the whole government took out. All we expect is that's
(12:55):
fair imbalance. In this case it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Maybe you need to start up your own social media
out like someone else in the world who seems to
push out most of his information via that. Are you
going to the Golden Shares and the World Sharing Champs
and Masterden.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, looking forward to but actually going there tomorrow and
given how well I sort of no. I was with
David Fagan at One Moomoo the other day and it
was quite cool being able to see him close up
action that means a legend day just handling sheep and
dealing with it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And Prime Minister, with all due respect, you went better
in the press conference with the TV giur I was
the other day than you did on the end of
the handpiece with Sir David Fagan.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, let's be clear.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't know I knew that, that's been clear.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yeah, but it was a privilege to be up close
with the legend, you know I like and to see
how he does it and it's just incredible how he
man and the animal. But as to all our sharees
and it's just incredible work, hard work, and now so
I want to go there tomorrow. There'll be this month
would be great, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You'll catch up with your doppel ganger, David Fagan, Christopher
Luxe and Prime Minister thanks for your time on the Country.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Good to be with you, Jamie, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes something we prepared a wee bit earlier this morning
in anticipation kicking off the show with it, but he
got gazumpt by Elliott Smith. The announcement if you just
if you've just joined us, is that Dave Rennie is
the new All Blacks coach. He has beaten Jamie Joseph
to the post or past the finishing post. He's going
(14:17):
to complete his commitments with the Kobe Steelers. Elliot said
that he's committed till April May there so he hasn't
got much of a run in before the midwinter series
kicking off I think in late journe early July. Interesting,
very interesting times. Indeed, more on that at the bottom
of the hour with Sports News. But up next on
(14:39):
the Country, it is Michael Harvey. We've got a couple
of trips across the Tasman today. He's the first of them.
He's from Rabobank and we're going to talk about that,
amongst other things. That magnificent global dairy trade auction overnight
up five point seven percent. Skim milk going crazy. But
like the world at the moment, I often say in
(15:12):
jest that no one at Rabobank has a short title. Well,
this man has no exception. His name is Michael Harvey,
based out of the Western Ireland, Australia. He's a senior
dairy and consumer foods analyst. Michael, Good, afternoon, New Zealand time.
The last time we chatted, you were just to play
an old senior dairy analyst, Jamie thinks have me.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
It's great to be back.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I think you could have added a senior vice president
in there somewhere, I think with my title, but we'll
go with dairy consumer foods analyst.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, Well we might talk about presidents a wee
bit later. I've got Matt Bolger coming up from Fonterra,
he's the MD of co Op Affairs to talk about
this global dairy trade auction overnight. So I'll keep the
powder a wee bit dry there, but gee five point
seven percent the index skim milk powder nine point one
percent as an outstanding result when you look at all
(16:03):
the turmoil around the world at the moment.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
That's right. Another strong brounds, which is great news for
the exports sector in New Zealand. And then just for
the broader price signal. It sends around the world around
the value of milk, and our clear observation is it's
clearly being led by the protein complex. You've got real
tightness in the supply of skiven mill powder and that's
what's really driving the recovery. We're seeing commodity prices and
(16:28):
I think the GDT skim offerings are on the GDT
are quite low at the moment, so it's part of
that protein story is getting a bit of a boost
and that's providing upside for the broader dairy commodity complex.
But I think in the context of what's going on globally,
because there is a lot of milk supply still out
there in the world, but I think what it's showing
you is that there's some real bi sentiment is quite
high in terms of pricing in risk premium because of
(16:50):
the global noise, and that's what you see coming through
in the results. You know a lot of buyers in
the Middle East, Southeast Asia, those sorts of regions pulling
forward some of their cover for New Zealand origin which
are declining seasonally and lower on the GDT auction. So
it's that risk premium being priced in for New Zealand
product at the moment in the short term, which is
a good result.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So effectively Australation and our clue Australia and here Australasian
dairy farmers are benefiting and the short term from the
war in the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
In the short term in terms of the dairy commodity complex,
absolutely here in Australia has been a little bit different.
We haven't actually seen the downside in farm gate pricing
that you have previously because we've got a different pricing
structure here. But certainly higher commodity prices in ust all
the terms has already provided them upside back into the
milk price in New Zealand, and we still think that there
might be a little bit more upside in the current
(17:39):
season and it certainly provides a bit of momentum around
what the payout forecast might look like for the new season.
So yeah, it's beneficial from that perspective, But you can't
ignore the risk on the other side, Jamie, that you
know in amongst all this, there is some margin outlook
risks because of what might happen in the Middle East
if things continue to escalate, and it's in a drawn
(18:00):
out conflict, and that really sits around energy and the
supply and supply risks that come from things like fertilizers.
So that's the angle we're looking at you. I mean,
energy prices are already up, there's more upside risk if
it's a conflict is prolonged, and the higher they stay
for longer, the more problematic that becomes for the global
economy and everything else. So we're watching that end. But
(18:21):
of course we know that there's a lot of fertilizer
that comes out of the Middle East region into our
markets in this part of the world. So it's the
price risk, but it's also supply risk if you can't
actually get the product into market. So there's a bit
of a watch on that perspective, and that's the key
thing we'd be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And obviously there's going to be a bit of a
watch on infistrates. More importantly, inflation the number one enemy
of the economy.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
That's right, I mean, and that's the risk for most
economies around the world now is if you do get
higher oil prices for longer, that that is problematic for
global economies and global growth, and then that does change
potentially the outlook around central banks and their policy and
money try policy mod it might do for interest rates,
but also then how that feeds into the currencies and
(19:05):
things like that. And the other thing to think about
in all this, particularly with a dairy hat on, is
clearly high oil prices generally dragged the grain and oil
seed complex higher, so that can mean clearly a spike
in feed costs, which have been quite affordable for a
lot of dairy farmers around the world at the moment.
If you get upside risk in terms of feed prices,
that does change the margin outlook for producers outside of
(19:26):
New Zealand, and it might actually change the outlook around
milk production growth as well. So there's a few layers
to it all, but clearly, yeah, absolutely, the whole discussion
around energy prices being up, what that means for global
economies and how central banks will respond to that will
be a clear clear watching them coming months.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How long you've been a vice president for that's a
very americanized title, Michael.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Harpy, No, not a vice president. Just to see your analysis, Rabobank.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's just a plain old senior dairy and consumer foods analysts.
Great to have your analytical mind on the country today.
Thanks for your time, Thank for having me. Thanks Michael.
It's twenty eight away from one year with the country.
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JAMIE i was going to, Say Jamie joseph is not
the New All blacks, Coach Dave annie Is sport and.
Attack what's happening in rural news okay And royal.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
News of, course the conflict in The Middle. East lots
of things on watch there at the, moment and fertilizer
price is a tip to jump because of that conflict
threatening global. Supply But Ravenstown have says it has enough
fertilizer in the country on the way to cover, autumns
so any price impacts due to the war in The
Middle east won't be felt. Immediately AND i don't actually, Notice,
jamie but The Middle east is a significant player in
(22:29):
the fertilizer, trade with about forty percent of nitrogen fertilizers
coming from the.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Region did you know, That, well do you realize what
nitrogen fertilizers are made out?
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Of?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, oil, oh, yes as you, no good, point, well fossil.
Fuel so, yeah it stands to reason that that's one
of the big. Issues Cameron bagby talked about that. One
we're sending stuff up the or through The strait Of,
hormuz but we've got to bring stuff down the other,
way and fertilizer is one of. Them there you. Go
that's rural news has or sport on.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The country WITH afco invested in your farming, success.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So we have an updated our news. Wise BUT i
can tell you That Dave rennie is the New All blacks. Coach,
well wat's his? Background i'm, Sorry i'm just getting Textsan,
ah thank you for.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
That.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Texter what is his? Background he led The New zealand
under twenty team to three Consecutive Junior World championships between
two thousand and eight and twenty. Ten he had a
great team in there as, Well chiefs back to Back
Super rugby titles twenty twelve and twenty, thirteen and took
The Glasgow warriors to A pro fourteen final and twenty
(23:40):
nineteen as he, was AS i, said the head coach
of The wallabies between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three
till they decided to go With eddie and he currently
has The Kobe steelers as title contenders in The Japan
Rugby League one. Competition he will he will honor his
commitments there, apparently according To Alliott. Smith and here he'll
(24:02):
be back In. May it's not much of a lead
in to The july home series Against, France italy And.
Ireland and that is your. Sport up, next we are
going to chat to the twenty twenty Five zanda McDonald award,
winners one each side of The. Tasman am meganblom here
In New, Zealand jack O'Connor across the, ditch, sucker, please old.
(24:31):
Black it's life on the road for me at the.
Moment Tomorrow i'm off to The Golden, shares get back.
Home Then i'm off to The Impact summit and The
zander McDonald. Awards Then i'm home again and Then i'm
off to The Wanaka show and The Lincoln university. Fundraiser
so it's going to be a fun week ahead of.
Me here's a couple of people who are going to
have an interesting. Week they are the twenty twenty Five
(24:53):
xander McDonald award, winners one From, Australia jack, O'Connor one
From New, Zealand megan. Blom looking forward to catching up
with you two in person next week in Christ. Church.
Jack we will start with you From harden In New South.
Wales when are you jumping on the plane to come.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Over, yeah that's, Right. Jamie thanks and good to touch base.
Again so, yeah we're our our family farming business is
located in Between hard And, young so about four hours
sort of southwest Of. Sydney But i'll be heading To
canberra the very early hours Of, sunday, Sorry monday, morning
(25:33):
the game Via sydney and then coming out of Christ. Church,
yeah coming in in hot to the conference and the
summer mate looking very, much very much looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
IT i had to look up hard In New South
wales on the, Map, jack AND i see you're kind
of north Of canberra And Wogga woggers sort of in that. Area,
yeah well west Of. Sydney as you, say how's your
season been, going because you're the manager of your farm's
eight thousand hectare mixed farming.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Operation, yeah that's, right Nice, Jamie IT'S i was quite
a quite a fortunate end of our. Harvest our main
harvest period is sort of through the end Of november And,
december and, desplite the, desplite the dry conditions we our
subsort moisture sort of hell of us in Good stead
towards the end of our season and really and really
(26:21):
enabled us to finish those crops off. Well so we
were very we're very happy with the result, there and
to obviously get it in Before christmas is a big
game for. Us uh, yeah since that, Time, JAMIE i,
Mean i'm Always i'm always hesitant to, say you, know
how dry things get and tight things, get because that's obviously,
relative and a lot of other places doing it a
lot tighter and tougher than. Us but you, Know january
(26:42):
In february where you, know we're on the dry side for,
us which being a mixed a, mixed a mixed timing,
business we've finished a lot of, finish a lot of
marino and crossbred lambs so and obviously through that main
joining period for us, too so that's always always tricky to.
Balance but, yeah in recent, Week, jamie very fortunately we've
been under some really good showers of rain a couple
(27:05):
of inches now and, counting so you, KNOW i certainly
putting us in a good, position getting some grating crops
in as we, speak and then heading through to our
main sort of selling window for this upcoming. Season also
in the midst of all that bit of, sharing and
obviously is twenty of your listeners will know wet sheet
at this point is never, good so you know. That
(27:28):
at the same time, too where we're welcoming a bit of,
Rain so just, yeah a, juggle a juggle as.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Always check o'connory at the twenty twenty Five santa McDonald
award winner Representing, australia let's welcome back onto the. Show
the twenty twenty Five New zealand Winner Megan, blom dairy
farmer's daughter From belfer And Northern, southland just up the
road from the capital Of Northern, Southland, Riversdale. Megan but
these days you're into. Aquaculture you are the operations manager
(27:58):
at The Mills Spay Muscles farm In.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
MARLBOROUGH i am, yeah and thanks for never letting me
forget my, Roots. Jamie i'm definitely still a Proud, southlander
but based In marlborough these.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Days.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Yeah So i'm managing Mills Day, muscles which is part
of our muscle farming business up in the top of The.
South so we're growing muscles in The Marlborough sounds and
In Golden bay and then selling them Through Millsday muscles
into the domestic. Market so the muscle tanks around The
South island and some of The North island will Be
(28:32):
Mellsboy muscles if you're looking for. Them but, yeah it's.
AWESOME i love. It, yeah And i'm really looking forward
to the summit next. Week it'll be good to see you.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
There which one's going, better The Marlborough Muscle farm or
The Belfer Southland Dairy.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Farm, well you, know it's definitely a mixed, business so
each have their own challenges and their own highs and.
Lows but in, general it's a good season across, board
which is pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Cool you're a founding member Of Young fish AND zed
And i'm thinking what the hell is? That but it's
a group that connects young professionals in the seafood. Industry,
yeah so Young.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Fish you, know we shamelessly stole the idea From Young,
farmers but basically it's a network of people who work
in the seafood industry In New. Zealand so that's anywhere
from like marine farming and actual onboard, fishing like through
the sciences and then into sales and, marketing, processing. Production
(29:33):
we've even got a maritime lawyer in the, group so
it's really anyone who's got a finger in the. Pie but,
yeah it's just about bringing us together so we know each,
other we can bounce off each other and just build
that sense of community amongst young people in. Seafood but,
yeah it's pretty cool. Group next week it's The Mighty
Muscle festival In, havelock so we've Got Young fish. There,
(29:57):
yeah living up a. Storm we've got a whole bit
young for games where the muscle farmers will compete against
each other with a whole lot of. Competitions But, yeah
it's a really rewarding group to be part of cool
bunch of.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
People just to finish on you. Two excuse my, IGNORANCE
i don't know the answer to this. One that's Why
i'm asking the. Question no such thing as a dumb.
Question have you done your trip? Yet your studied trip
as part of your winning prize from last year where
you get in the private jet and zoom all Over
australia And New.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Zealand we sure.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Did last year we went In september To, australia and
then this year we scheduled to go In august Around New,
zealand which will be. Epic but The australia trip was.
UNBELIEVABLE i just couldn't believe the things we saw and
the people we. Met they put on a real cool
itinery for. US i wanted to see examples of people
(30:51):
who are doing really good, marketing and ALSO i wanted
to see the scale that can be found In australia
that we might not quite see here In New, zealand
just the large like land messes and just the scale
of the. Businesses so they really delivered on that for.
Me and, yeah we above and.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Beyond, Okay JACK i TAKE i take it that you're
looking forward to doing The New ZEALAND.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Trup, yeah very much, So, jamie AND i couldn't agree With.
Megan's With megan's that were there before about the. Trip
it was fantastic Around australia to just connect with some,
people really really special people and captains of, industry you
know on The australian And New zealand side that have
just really grown and expanded and diversified businesses at, scale
(31:39):
Like meghan, said and to really get deep a deeper
understanding of you, know of their journeys and their businesses
and their, mantras and it's real insight into into some
pretty pretty special. Operations and then, yeah moving forward into
what's looking like a fantastic trip In august That matt
(32:00):
wife And shane And jane and a couple others are
putting currently putting together for us and some of the
some of the people that you know that are sort
of being flowed around as potentials at the. MINOR i
think it's some pretty pinchy self, moments that's for.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Sure, okay, Guys jack, O'Connor Megan blom the twenty twenty
Five xander McDonald award. Winners we'll see you in Christ
church next. Week thanks for your time.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Today, awesome thanks great looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It thanks. Guys it is ten away from. One we
have a New All blacks. Coach his name Is Dave.
Rennie the press conference with there'll be a press conference
With New Zealand rugby Chair David kirk and the New
All blacks Coach Dave. Rennie it'll be live on News
talk said be at two. Pm Up Next Matt boulger From.
Fonterira Matt bolger's his. Name he Is fontira's managing director
(32:55):
of co Op affairs and the son of the former
Late Great Prime Minister Tim, bulger WHO i mistakenly Called Sir,
jim but he didn't want a. Knighthood. MATT i want
to get back onto the serious issues of the. Day
i've touched on this one With Michael harvey From. Rabobank
but this five point seven percent jump surge almost in
THE gdt with skim milk powder nine point one. PERCENT
(33:17):
i know that's a great, result but was it?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Unexpected you, look the markets doing some interesting things at the,
moment but we it is a great. Result that's five
in a. Row, now since the start of the year
of upward, results the futures were looking positive AND i
guess you, all there's a lot of milk growth out
there around the. World buyers are comfortable at these, prices
(33:41):
and so, yeah it's great to have another good result.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
OVERNIGHT i hate to use the ten number on, you but,
geez we've got to be looking at.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It, matte come on wondering how long it it take
you to?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
WELL I i just wanted it was my second, question
not my first, one but it's got a sniff of
ten dollars about.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
It look, well we'll be out at the end Of
march with our first half, results and of course we'd
always look at milk, prices but, no obviously we'd just
recently put the price back up to the midpoint of
nine point fifty and as their. Outlook BUT i guess
if there's any any headline thing, here it is just
it's a world of, volatility both what's happening In iran
(34:20):
in the last few, days but also around supply and.
Demand so while it's looking pretty, positive there's still a
pretty volatile world out.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There there's a lot of supply out, there there's almost
a milk Blutt it seems to be all finding a
home at the. Moment but where where's The New zealand season?
Tracking because we know for a lot of The North,
island which was getting dry Before, christmas they've had plentiful,
rain too much in some. Cases so nearly all Of
New zealand's in a really good grass growing situation at the.
(34:48):
Moment so You're i'm assuming That fonterra and the dairy
industry will finish the season with a bit of a wet.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Sale, yeah where has? Been has been an interesting summer
in lots of, ways and of course first thing to
note as well it's good for grass, growth has the
actually been a lot of pretty challenging weather events, around
whether that's wind or rain and the whole. Lot but
certainly Where i'm based in The, waikato you, know it's
(35:14):
looking very green for Early. March so, yeah across the
board In New zealand we're probably about three percent up
on last year with really good grass growth and obviously
positive milk prices meaning that farmers are keeping. Going so despite,
that in despite all the milk coming out of THE
us And, europe the demand's still, there SO i guess
(35:37):
the key thing there is that demand for dairy is,
strong and it's not just one region in one, country
it's Across, China Southeast, Asia Middle, east across the. Board
it's been very.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Positive We're James robertson very dynamic young, man chief of
staff at twenty nine years of age For. Fonterra on yesterday's,
show he was wearing His Young farmer or Former Young
farmer of The year. Hat but WHEN i asked him
About fonterra and The Middle, east naturally is chief of.
Staff he was very concerned about all the people you've
(36:07):
got in The Middle. East they're all safe and.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
SOUND i take, it, yeah they are In thanks for.
ASKING i think that's the first thing we think of,
is of course the human. Side so it's a pretty
unstable environment there, is ville know from watching the. News
so we've got staff based in an office to buy,
there and you have got a manufacturing facility In saudi as.
Well all of our people are safe and accounted for
(36:33):
in sheltering and of course we're watching that. Side we're
also watching the logistics side because obviously this is pretty
disruptive on shipping and the team are working very closely
with the shipping companies to see how that's going to play.
Out but of course it's very early days AND i
think it's probably unclear exactly how that's going to develop
over the next couple of.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Weeks Matt, Bolger Managing director co Op affairs For, Fonterra
Happy days For New zealand dairy. Farmers today was a great.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Result, yeah, great Thanks, Tommy, well Thanks.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Matt happy days Or Happy day for Daver, any the
New All blacks. Coach we'll be carrying a press conference
With David kirk And Dave any live at two pm
on News TALK. Zedb we're also celebrating the tenth, year
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