March 10, 2026 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Karn Dhaliwal, Emma Higgins, Vanessa Winning, and Phil Duncan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:50):
Goody, good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay. This is
the Country brought to you. Bye I, Suzu and Farmlands.
Appreciate your support. Guys, righto. Living on a prayer, Don Jovi?
What was this for our first guest, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen.
I thought over the weekend he might have been living
on a prayer. We'll ask him. He's kicking off the
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show yesterday. I was in christ Church for the Impact
Summit and the Xander McDonald Awards and we have got
the New Zealand winner on the show today. He beat
a top class field, trust me on that one. His
name is carn Dallywell. He's a dynamic young entrepreneur in
agri business. You're going to be very impressed by history.
(01:30):
Emma Higgins from Rabobank, I've come out with their latest
Q one Global Dairy Quarterly Report. But where's the number?
Where's the milk forecast price? Emma? That is what I'll
be asking her. Someone who wasn't at the conference yesterday
it was scheduled to be was Vanessa winning from MPI
years ago she won the Smartest Person in the Room
(01:53):
award at the old Triple P Farming conference. So who
won it last night at the Zander McDonald wards was
the women again. Ozzies too. That was a bit of
a worry. And Phil Duncan on the weather. We've got
lots to do, Michelle. I'll have rural news and we'll
update sport for you Wednesdays on the Country. The Prime
(02:26):
Minister kicks off the show. I please to note Christopher
Luxen that you still are the Prime Minister because you
were at Golden Shears last Thursday. I was there Friday
and all the talk on Friday afternoon at the Golden
Shares was that you were going away to contemplate your future.
You obviously decided not to throw the towel in.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Well, the only future I'm contemplating is out of New
Zealand and the actually for our kids and our greend
kids and how we set the joint up for them
to have a great future with us. So now that's
what I've been doing.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Never mind some of the spotlight and the tension, the
heat has been taken off you because of the COVID inquiry.
Chippy probably hasn't come out of it that well. In fact,
the previous labor administration hasn't come out of it that well.
They just spent too much money.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Look, I think that's the key takeaway from the report
from yesterday, which is that labor spent and borrowed too much,
just for too long, and it has had long lasting
consequences and it's heard a hell of a lot of
key weason as we've seen it. I mean, there's some
pretty startling and confronting stuff in there.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
JM.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I mean, sixty six billion dollars was spent and half
of it wasn't spent on COVID. It was just wasted away.
And what have we got to show for it? Are
there any better schools, roads, hospitals and zell And know
what we've got to show for it is a tripling
of the debt and we're now paying ten billion dollars
a year on interest payments on that debts. And so yeah,
when you think about that, that's for dened in hospitals.
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We can't build each year. That's the operating budget of
defense and police and corrections and customers and justice combined.
So you know that's in the legacy was high inflation,
high asset price inflation. House prices went up thirty percent
in a year, if you remember, and high interest rates,
and that obviously then caused the the tough recession of
times we've had.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So yeah, but playing devil's advocate, they will say only
three thousand people died. It could have been worse. We
could have lost fifty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Well, they're one of the takeaways of the initial response
wasn't too bad. But actually when you see that they
kept Auckland and lockdown for way too long the borders
with Waikato and Northland and they were in lockdown, essentially
massive damage to small businesses. Yet they were given advice
they could have opened that up. And you know, I
just think, you know, in the Iranian complex highly than
this to us, right, which is the work that we've
(04:30):
done in two years to strengthen the economy, the work
that we got even in the last three months, were
in better position than we would have been three months ago.
We've got some very positive forecasts that are better than
what everyone was expecting. You know, three percent growth in
the economy for the coming year, all that good stuff.
But that has meant that responsible economic men management really
does matter in these crises and that's what we didn't
get with COVID and as a result we're paying the
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price of that for way too long.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
What's the latest with live animal export? Is it like
Rachel hunters here. It won't happen over night, but it
will happen.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Well, we always said we'd only reinstate it if we
could be reassured of having the highest possible stands of
animal welfare. We've got lots of really good feedback from
both the public and frankly also from the sector. And
the short position is that from a National Party perspective,
we won't be you know, we're not going to be
reinstading living on exports and it won't be something well
campaign on the next selection. You know, what we're focused
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on with respect to growing the agriculture sector is obviously
getting cydy n FTA, making sure we're getting bit of
red tape across the system and you know, and making
sure we get farmers back to farming, get Wellington out
of it. So you know, that's where better to put
our energy rather than on this.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Have you talked to Winston and See more about this
a live animal exports thing.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yes, yes, and I think they'll be on board with
those positions. That's certainly our national party position. Obviously we're
formerly an out the government position on it. Shortly I imagined,
but but I think you've seen, you know, even you know,
other parties in the coalition are pretty you are not
against this decision anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What's the lad intel on the Middle East?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, Look, I mean from a conflict point of view,
you know, a really complex, dangerous situation. We're really concerned
about the rising death toll. It's important that the civilians
are protected. It's important international laws upheld. But what you're
saying with Iran's retaliatory attacks on its neighbors and into
civilian infrastructure is dangerous and unacceptable, and we just want
(06:23):
to encourage a quick resolution and get the Ranium leadership
to seek the negotiat a solution.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So that's the key on the conflict in terms of
its economic impact. You know, what we're seeing is that
you know, well, we're actually, as I said, in good
shape because of the work that's been going on, having
got inflation under control, interestrates under control, and growth and control.
But equally our real focus is on the fuel supply
in particular, as you've probably heard us say yesterday, we've
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got very good supplies in country and also on the
water outside of the Himu Strait. We've got arrangements through
something called the International Energy Agency and we've even got
our Essential Supply Agreement that I signed with our Prime
Minister of Singapore to make sure that we get fuel
supplies coming to New Zealand and moments of crisis as well.
So we're in good shape on that. But we've formed
a Ministerial Response GRIPT just to make sure that we're
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engaging with the fuel security making sure we're enserd industry positions.
Todd mcclay's on that group to make sure that trade
and supply chain challenges as people are moving freight and
product around is important, and just the general economic impacts
as well as the Commerce Commission monitoring our fuel companies
to make sure that they don't engage in their price gouging.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Okay, Prime Minister Christopher Luxe, and appreciate your time on
the country. I'm glad you're still in office and still
got the job. I don't want to housetrain another one.
I might have to do that in November.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Don't you worry. We'll be having with chats next year,
my friend.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, good on you see you laight up we go
take care Bye bye.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Thank you Prime Minister. But a confidence there will we
have to house train another prime minister come November. Interesting times.
Politics was the would be fair to say politics was
the talk of the conference yesterday, not only in New
Zealand but Australia as well. Albo not so popular with
the farmers from Australia who were at the Impact Summit
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and the Xander McDonald Award. We're going to speak next
to the New Zealand winner, a dynamic young man, great backstory.
His name is carn Dallywell he's got a really good story.
We're going to talk about that next before the end
of the hour. Emma Higgins from Ravo Bank that come
out with their latest global Dairy quarterly report. Also talk
(08:30):
of the conference yesterday was the boom and demand for protein,
high value protein. Seems like weight loss is all about
high protein, consuming high value protein. See you go. Vanessa
Winning from MPI, Fell Duncan from Weather watch before the
end of the.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hour zed a song for the Brookie.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So yesterday I spent the day in christ Chitch for
the Impact Summit, and last night had the good fortune
and great honor to end see the Xander MacDonald Award
for twenty twenty six. We had an Aussie winner. His
name was Bryce Nayland. And we had a Key We winner.
His name was Khan dally Well. Khan joins us on
the country today and I'll tell you what you beat off.
(09:24):
Chloe Butcher Harries and Lana Marshall, good Southland girl. They
were very impressive candidates. You must be wrapped to have
won this, Carn.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Yeah, I think a testament to the Chloe and Lana
they they had a lot of great initially as they
were pushing in their community. So I'm very fortunate and
quite taken back when my name was called out. So yeah,
wonderful opportunity to be a part of and and honor.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
The spirit of the award.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So when you guys got up, the sixth finalists got
up in the afternoon to present your cases. Three Aussie's,
three New Zealander. If you don't mind me saying so, Carn,
and I know You're of Indian descent, but you sounded
like an Aussi. You still sound like a Nassi to me.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. I'm not too sure where
that actually comes from. But I am based up in
northern why Ketto and we sit quite Barna District and
close to the hills, one of the last few dairy farms,
so I think those tills are having an influence on
the exit I've picked up over the years.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So Carn Dally, well, let's have a look at your backstory,
because it's a very good one and a very impressive one.
After gaining experience as a rural banker and a fertilizer rep,
you went back farming, but not dairy farming like your parents.
You went into market gardening. Why market gardening. That's a
tough gig.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, yeah, it is a tough gig.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
I think between my wife and I, Bry, we were
kind of I grew up the dairy farm. I came
from a small scale, so I kind of saw the
challenges of what what challenge, the challenges around reinvesting in
the business and the flexibility that gave you. So but
we always wanted to go farming. But what we found
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it was hard to go and invest in dereks is
really capital intensive industry we are part of, so to
get scar from the start was a real challenge. So
we looked at a whole lot of other things and
at the time we didn't really take into account the
risk profile of them because we were young. So we
decided to start a horticultural based business. We saw a
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lot of opportunity in that market, so we went into
cropping and we grove watermelton for the local market. We
developed the blue real orchid which are explorded into Australia
and we've just built ten hic y read kvy fruit orchard.
So it's been a real journey, but the opportunities that
has given us, as you know, it's given us what
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we've wanted to achieve and a great entry point was
at scale into the sector.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
How does the keiw go on wh at O region.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Very good?
Speaker 9 (12:07):
So in Towinga, as you may know, there is a
shortage of land, so Auckland and wipe It our the
fastest grown regions for kivy fruit plantings in New Zealand.
So they don't like the frost, so we do prosmetic
with water. But other than that, it is a very
ideal climate to grow kivy fruit.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Carticulture and market gardening in particular is a fraught way
to make a living. It can have rich rewards, it
can also spank you big time. You got hit by
cyclone Gabrielle.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
So one of our big years and our annual crop
in business, we increased our plantings and took on a
quite a substantial contract and we invested a lot and
unfortunately cyclone Gabrielle came in and wiped.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Out the whole lot.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
I remember gett a phone call from the lease landowner
not to come down. I think you can look at
that two ways. You can look at that as hey,
maybe this isn't for us, or what could have we
done to change it? And we never asked the question
what if a one fifty year event came through? And
I think we need to be asking that now. So
we went away from that, rebuilt our business in a
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different location and split up all our blocks across four
leeds farms, and since that day, we've mitigated a lot
of that risk and we had a lot more resilient
business out of it.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yes, spreading the risk. Finally, what does the next twelve
months hold for you as the twenty twenty six Sanda
McDonald Award winner.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
I think the biggest sit my hand up in this
for the award is to expand on really big I'm
really big on building expertise because expertise we knew, are
passionate about something and apply then they create grade outcomes.
And my grade outcomes that I want to achieve are
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in the primary sector. So I'm wanting to build on
those expertees, typically around the technical capability of production systems
that's partial and cropping around leadership styles how to lead
through difficult situations and bring your team along, because we
can't do this, sirs, and we've learned that's the hard
way in our business. So I'm really keen to draw
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on expertise and use it to do a better job.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And prim receector can dally well there. Twenty twenty six
Xander McDonald Award winner, you beat off a couple of
stunning entrants and Chloe Butcher Harries and Lana Marshall. Well
done and I'm sure you'll do a great job as
an ambassador over the next twelve months.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Thanks for your time, No beautiful appreciate that Jamie.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Good on your mate, Thanks Carnt. Very impressive young man,
mind you so Also we're Lana Marshall and Chloe Butcher Harries,
the other two New Zealand finalists. It was great also,
and I've spoken to them on the wireless but never
really met them in person. Tested chartress Nancy Crawshaw. Twenty
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twenty four winners Megan Blom. Megan Blom from Balfa, although
she's on a muscle farm up in Marlbourne now. Great
to meet her as well. Very impressive young people. If
that's the future of New Zealand agriculture in the primary sector,
I'll tell you what we are in good hands. Up next,
another dynamic young I suppose she's young. Everything's relative, isn't it.
(15:23):
Emma Higgins from Rabobanks. She's their senior agg analysts. They've
just released their global Dairy quarterly report. There's so much
milk around the world at the moment, how come the
milk prices going up? And more importantly, is there a
correlation between oil prices which is spiking at the moment
even though they've settled down or weebit and homework powder.
(15:46):
We'll ask Emma next on the country.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You're scared, it's.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She is Rabobanks senior agg analyst. Her name is Emma Higgins.
She's just come out with the Q one Global Dairy
Quarterly Report, and I must say, Emma, as much as
I appreciate your work, I was very disappointed in this
report that you didn't give me a number a milk price.
Why bother writing a report if you're not going to
give me a quarterly number update.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
It's a bit harsh, Jamie. I feel like every time
I to give you a number, you tend to challenge it.
So yeah, we've gone for another approach this time. But no,
look broadly, you know, Fonterra has listed the milk price
forecast from nine bucks up to nine fifty. Great result.
Obviously we started season at ten. I think the biggest
thing right now, Jamie, is that there is so much
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volatility out there. Markets are moving wildly at that commodity level,
at that energy level, and dairy is to a certain
extent getting caught up in this as well. So I
feel like at this point in time, it's less about
the number and more about what kind of risks and
management process you can pop into your business structure, right
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now with how volatile.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The world is becoming, well, let me try another angle.
I was hosting a panel yesterday at the Impact Summit
and christ Church and on that panel it was none
other than Fonterra chief executive Miles Hurrell, and I asked
him about the supposed correlation between the price of oil
and whole milk powder and he kind of said, well,
we live in a very volatile world. Economies are struggling,
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that's going to be greater inflation. But basically yes, it
was his answer to the fact that there is a correlation.
So ultimately, Couldney Zealand dairy farmers benefit from Donald Trump's
actions in the Middle East in the short term, at least.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
In the short term. Yeah, I don't disagree with any
of that. So historically used to has been a correlation
between oil prices and homewalk power prices. If we look
to the oil markets, holy molely, I mean financial markets
have been absolutely rattled by the situation this week. Exhibit
A was you know, Monday's wild whipsawing prices heading close
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to about one hundred and twenty bucks a barrel for cruit.
Today we're sitting back around that mid eighties mark well
down from Monday's highs, but still you much higher than
most of the twenty twenty six prices around that sixty
dollars a barrel mark. So in the short term I
think New Zealand could benefit from it. We just have
to look at Exhibit B, which was the GEDT which
was held last week. The Middle East were buyers in
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that auction and they bought more when it comes to
skim of powder in particular, and they are really important
secondary market for New Zealand. So I think the long
and the short of it is New Zealand might benefit
from this. In this instance. The challenge will be, you know,
the distribution, the route to market, because right now one
of the critical chock points is held up, so to speak,
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and that's what's causing all of this uncertainty.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Economics one oh one supply and demand. How come we're
getting a rising dairy commodity market when we've got a
rising supply Some would say almost to glut, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So the things that we can train and measure and
understand somewhat suggest that milk spplay still is really strong
and most of those exporting regions we've talked about this
at length and previous interviews. There's still a lot of
milk coming out of the United States. December milk for
the European regions was very very high as well compared
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to the year prayer and New Zealander is also contributing
to this. However, what we're seeing is New Zealand markets
out of step with some of the pressures elsewhere. If
we look to the GDT, the volumes that have been
offered on the GDT are now well below historic levels
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for some commodities, and so that's really helped powder prices.
And then we have another overlaying impact where the high
protein boom, which is very very strong in Western markets,
particularly in the United States, has had a drag upwards
in a positive way for protein prices, and skim of
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powder in particular has been a major beneficiary of that
as well. So there's things that we can measure at
a high level, and then there's regional nuances and dairy
commodity nuances that New Zealand is benefiting from.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Once again, just to finish on that was one of
the talking points at the conference the summit yesterday. This
boom and demand for protein, high value protein at bodes well,
doesn't it? For the New zealandairy industry.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
It really does bode well because if you think about it,
the way that we're consuming protein, it's great news story
for dairy. You know, you've only got to look through
the chilliisles here in New Zealand to see all these
high protein yogurts taking up a lot of retail space.
If we think about some of those broader macro trends
around aging demographics and also things like GLP one as
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well the weight loss drug, both of those two particular
macro trends lend themselves very nicely to deiry playing an
increasingly important role. And again, thinking about what we produce
here in New Zealand, we are lining up add ducks
very nicely to be the beneficiaries of this.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Emma Higgins, co author of Rabobanks Q one Global Dairy Quarterly,
Love your work, but next time give me a number.
See you later by Jamie. Thanks Emma. It is what
is it? Twenty six, twenty seven away from one? Yeah,
I was just having a look at that. Emma was
talking about that oil price. Brent Crew's currently sitting at
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eighty seven dollars and sixty three cents hot off the press.
What did it get up to on? Was it Monday? Sunday?
Monday one hundred and twenty bucks. Interestingly, the enz X
fifty or top fifty up two thirds of a percent today,
so maybe the markets are taking this in their stride now.
Interesting times up next Rural News, Sports News before the
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end of their Vanessa Winning from MPI. Phil Duncan from
weather Watch twenty three are away from One Bad Medicine
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My wife would probably suggest that I need them. But
the Hosk is also doing Resonate ad libs. I wonder
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do a hearing aid ad lib maybe.
Speaker 10 (23:56):
Although I've heard that story about the chainsaw and your
one bad yo so much time now, Well.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
A good story is worth repeating, Michelle. Yes, imagine spending
a winter on the chainsaw without Yeah, those were the
days when it was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
You're probably in chands as well, were you.
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hearing left. And I'm lucky. I've still got all with toes.
Never mind, Okay, let's have a look at what's happening
in Rural News, the.
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For your local stockist.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Now, before I get into today's news story, Jamie asked
you before I said, do you know why I picked
bond Jove today?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, I noticed that when I was leading into the
interview with the Prime Minastery you'd picked living on a prayer?
Is that this sort of a subtle message for him?
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Actually that's a good seguey, I liked that one. I
didn't think of that one actually picked bad. I thought
you were going to pick bad medicine because of the chat.
Was the Chippy obviously in the COVID Inquirer wasn't quite
sure which one you would pick between those.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Wow, we've got Chippie on the show tomorrow. It's election yere,
We've got to be fair and give everyone a crack.
And I did catch up with Chippy and full creditor
Sean Fitzpatrick would say it to Chippey because he did
front up at the Golden shars and I bought him
a sausage roll. I'm discovering the bases. That's all Michelle, right,
what do you got.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
In Rural news okay and Royal News. Congratulations to John
and Fiona Sherlock who are announced the regional Supreme winners
of the Wyre Kett or Balanced Farm Awards last night.
They now join other regional winners from across the country
for the Gordon Stevenson Trophy at the National Showcase in
christ Church in July. The next regional event is actually
tonight for the Greater Wellington region. And on my music topic,
(25:41):
it's because there's a biopic coming out about John bon Jovi.
You're be excited about that.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You love you, how I love those? I love those
biopics absolutely, that'll be a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Here's sport sports on the country with a fco business well.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Done and how about this for a good day at
the office. The Indian men's cricket team will dive up
twenty three million dollars from their local governing body for
lifting the T twenty World Cup for a third time.
Carteney Clark, Nick Kelly and Jaden Lennox are in line
for Black Cat's Tea twenty deboots against South Africa. The
(26:15):
series starts excuse me on Sunday. No rest for the Wicked,
although most of the World Cup squad are getting arrest.
That Carteney Clark, I've watched him a bit this summer.
I hope he gets to go. And the Crusaders have
lost playmaking understudy James White for the rest of the
Super Rugby season to shoulder injury. Right up next we
(26:38):
get we it's Vanessa winning from MPI and poor old
Phil Duncan. We've booted him to touch on Monday. We
booted them to touch on Tuesday, but we always get
our weather man here on the country. We're going to
wind it out with Phil Duncan and his autumn outlook. Well,
(27:05):
welcome back to the country. It's quarter her away from
one someone who was meant to be at the conference
yesterday but somehow didn't make it. A Vanessa Wanning from MPI.
Vanessa before we actually we're going to talk about let
me describ your text up here. I'm totally unprepared because
I've literally jumped off a plane and into a studio.
We're going to talk emergency preparedness events that are starting today.
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But I first met you, as I think I said
a month ago or so when we were chatting at
Field Days at the Triple PA Farming con conference. Are
the brainschild of Shane mcmanaway, and we did the smartest
person in the room and you actually won it. Now
last night you'll be pleased to know, Vanessa, that the
smartest two people in the room with my heads and
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tails eliminating everyone. It only took seven questions. Were Jane Field,
who's a key we originally I think from Motchawacre, but
arming in Tasmania with her husband. And the other one
was Liz Hegerton who was runner up. She's farming seventeen
thousand hectares in Western Australia and his fate would have it, Vanessa.
(28:12):
She was the next door neighbor to one of my
best mates who was a West Australian when I was
at Lincoln.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
What a small world we live in a huge That's amazing.
And do you guys still remember what you did back
in those days in terms of behavior in Lincoln.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, he turned up at my wedding. His name was
Joe Young, and I think because back in the Lincoln
days we used to do that too, fitar thing, and
I'm sure we'll reminisce on that tomorrow night in Wanaka.
But it did involve a wee bit of murder ty.
I obviously didn't partake on my wedding day, but the
Lincoln Boys did and I remember Joe leading it. So
(28:48):
hello Joe if you're listening and coaching up in Western Australia.
Now Liz and Jane got down. They were the last
one standing after six questions. The seventh question decided the winner.
So I'm going to throw it at you. How smart
are you Vanessa winning? What was the name of popstar
Adell's most recent album? Was it twenty fifteen or twenty
(29:13):
twenty one? What would you have gone for?
Speaker 8 (29:17):
I would have gone for twenty twenty one and you
would have won.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, you would have been tied with Jane Field. So
there you go. Four albums and they all kind of
had dates and names around them. Tell me about this
emergency preparedness stuff from MPI.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Yeah, sure, So, as you know, we're in ten regions
and so we're trying to help farmers and growers get
ready for weather activity. So we've had a massive first
few months of the year across the country in terms
of you know, whend rain, hail storm. So the idea
(29:51):
behind them is to try and build up as much
resilience as we can, and we're starting today because we've
got a very first one West coast. And essentially it's
about being ready for what's going to hit. We generally
know a couple of days out it's something BIG's coming
or expected to come, So what do you need to
do to get ready for it? So? Do you need
(30:13):
to milk cows earlier? Do we need to get the
processes in there to pick up the milk earlier? Do
you have access to a generator? Are you plugged in
for a generator? All of those sorts of things. So
we've prepared checklists. Is going to a function going on
in each of these events. I think there's about twenty
odd of them across the country, So go to our
website you can find out more information about them. But
(30:36):
essentially what we're trying to do is really help farmers
and growers get ready and to be honest, Omi, they
are getting better and better every time, and it's amazing
how resilient farmers have become.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Those well, mind you they need to be and We
spoke to carn Deli Well a wee bit earlier, the
New Zealand Wonder of the Zanda McDonald wards. He's a
market gardeners into horticulture in the White Caddow region there
and he is now saying he's effectively farmer for a
one and fifty year event. And I don't know whether
Gabrielle's a one on fifty year event, but we're certainly
going to get more of that sort of.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Stuff absolutely, So you know, take what you can do,
what you can, be as much in control as you can,
and you'll be able to get through it a lot better.
There doesn't mean there won't be extremes that are just
outside of your control, but reducing the impact as much
as possible that will also reduce the burden on insurance, etc.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Toe.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
So I take my head off to farmers and girls
across the country. They really are taking this on board
and they are getting a lot more resilient. So we
just here to help them and provide them with those
checklists and support where we can.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You've sent me a list of all the events that
are happening on the egg primary sect the calendar over
the next month or two amazing, such a busy time.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Oh my god, it's so huge and it's so positive.
I mean, you're just talking about Exandra McDonald wood garcid
to have missed it, but you just can't beat everything
at the moment. But you know, you think about last week.
We've also had the Golden Shares as well. This week
we've got Wanica. Next week, we've got Central Districts Field Days,
we've got the Air Games. You know, it is a
(32:10):
huge period of time for activity. So you know, I'm
so impressed at how much you know, mostly volunteer based
organizations are out there getting farmers and growers off farm,
celebrating wins and the positivity is massive, Like you know,
the description that you were giving in terms at Sander
McDonald's awards, that positivity is just raining through the country,
(32:33):
which is so good to see.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, one at a show Friday and Saturday, the Rural
Games and Palmerston North Friday, Saturday Sunday, and we haven't
even mentioned the likes of the ongoing ones, the Young
Farmer Regional Finals, the Balanced Farm Environment Awards, Industry Awards,
Dairy Industry Awards at a South Island dairy event. That's
a great event that's on at Lincoln again this year.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yes see Saints and fasteenth of April. You know, really
cold line up this year. So honestly, anyone in the
South Island is in dairy, you really should get along.
We've got Cam doing his camp, Baggery doing his breakfast
which is always a sellout. You know, getting an hour
and a half with home is huge. And we've also
got this extra program this year at side called the
(33:18):
Legends of Dairy, So we've got Colin Glass, Leanna Guiney
and Well Grayling giving their warts and all conversation around
you know, how to be successful, how to grow, how
to support others what they're doing for the industry. So
you know, Legends of Dairy with Inside is such a cool,
unique little spot that we're doing for the first time.
(33:38):
But you know we talk about just the vegie sector.
I've never seen so much positivity in the vegetable growing sector.
And you're so cool that the Zenda McDonald Award winner
was a market gardener. But last Tuesday the Veggie Center
of Excellence hosted five hundred grow from across New Zealand.
(34:02):
Across people came up from the South Island, people came
across from Australia looking at what new technologies they were
to reduce our application of pscides, herbicide, etc. So they
were taken through a series of trials. It was so
good to see in so much positivity. It did happen
to be a beautiful day and book a coe.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Okay, Vanessa got to go, thanks for your time. You
mentioned Will Growling. Of course, he's twenty eleven young farmer
of the air at the time, and this was a
compliment at the time. I said he was a Prince
Harry lookalike. I don't think he want to be one
of those these days. Anyhow, I got to go, Hey,
thanks for your time and good luck getting to some
of these events over the next month or two.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Yeah, thanks Jamie. Hopefully I'll see you there.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yep, good on Vanessa winning there from MPI. Up next,
we're going to wrap it with Phil Duncan.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Weather on the country with Fiji where happiness comes naturally.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yes, Fiji, where happiness comes naturally. Who well, I want
to go to Fiji. Everyone would at this time of
the year. Okay, Fell Duncan. We bumped you on Monday.
We didn't get time. We missed you yesterday, had a
boozy lunch or something like that. I've got you. I've
got you today. Mate. Let me just turn on your
fav O there. Hey, talk to me about your autumn outlock,
(35:29):
because I'm looking at the old sorry just getting off
Mike here, just looking at the old drought index maps me.
I want to do two things that once can't multitask.
So so the far North, the man Or two region
and kind of inland central Otago getting a bit dry.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, definitely good to be back with you. We are
seeing some dry conditions in the Far North in particular,
they will get some rain from the low pressure zone
that is that is moving into the Upper Northland at
the moment, although the low is going to fall apart,
but it is going to drive in some where. They're
mostly north of Auckland and Bay of Plinty and so yeah,
a little bit of a relief coming there. But yeah,
(36:06):
definitely some dry areas around the North Island, areas like
Corimandal Peninsula that were previously you know, flooded and landslides
and all that, and there's really been very little rain
over the last month or two.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
What's in your autumn outlook?
Speaker 6 (36:19):
So basically fairly orderly March at the moment, a lot
of high pressure, so we're kicking off March with more
high pressure, but the high pressure systems are moving around,
moving northwards to better. That encourages the windy westerlies to
be coming in, and so we'll get a we've got
windy easterlies today at the top of the country, but
by Friday, certainly by Saturday, we'll we'll have windy south
(36:41):
to southwesterlies right across all of New Zealm. So fairly
kind of benign start to autumn, and I think we're
likely to be seeing it go this way going into April.
Nothing too overly dramatic from the north or the south
at this stage, although there is a possible tropical cyclone
next week up near New Caledonia, definitely worth keeping.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And I reckon a lot of the horticulture industry, the
arable farmers, a lot of the crops are being harvested
or taken off at the moment. Phil, I think they'll
take that. Yeah, I mean not to mention the grapes,
of course.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, that's right. When I look at the maps is
there's sort of nothing jumping out other than the load
that we've got today. Nothing too big on the way
at this stage, although some some severe ware they're here
and there, but definitely a reduction on where we were
just a month or so ago.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well that's a very settled forecast from our resident Monday
weather expert on a Wednesday. Thanks for hanging in there, Phil,
really appreciate it, my pleasure. Good on you, Phil Duncan
there from weather watch dot co dot inz. He's got
an excellent rural offering. Go and have a look at
his website whether watch dot co dots in z. All right,
(37:49):
good to be back in Dunedin today. The life of
a traveling salesman continues tomorrow. As soon as I get
it off here, I'm off to Wanaka. Looking forward to that.
We'll catch you back in the studio tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 4 (00:50):
Goody, good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay. This is
the Country brought to you. Bye I, Suzu and Farmlands.
Appreciate your support. Guys, righto. Living on a prayer, Don Jovi?
What was this for our first guest, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen.
I thought over the weekend he might have been living
on a prayer. We'll ask him. He's kicking off the
(01:10):
show yesterday. I was in christ Church for the Impact
Summit and the Xander McDonald Awards and we have got
the New Zealand winner on the show today. He beat
a top class field, trust me on that one. His
name is carn Dallywell. He's a dynamic young entrepreneur in
agri business. You're going to be very impressed by history.
(01:30):
Emma Higgins from Rabobank, I've come out with their latest
Q one Global Dairy Quarterly Report. But where's the number?
Where's the milk forecast price? Emma? That is what I'll
be asking her. Someone who wasn't at the conference yesterday
it was scheduled to be was Vanessa winning from MPI
years ago she won the Smartest Person in the Room
(01:53):
award at the old Triple P Farming conference. So who
won it last night at the Zander McDonald wards was
the women again. Ozzies too. That was a bit of
a worry. And Phil Duncan on the weather. We've got
lots to do, Michelle. I'll have rural news and we'll
update sport for you Wednesdays on the Country. The Prime
(02:26):
Minister kicks off the show. I please to note Christopher
Luxen that you still are the Prime Minister because you
were at Golden Shears last Thursday. I was there Friday
and all the talk on Friday afternoon at the Golden
Shares was that you were going away to contemplate your future.
You obviously decided not to throw the towel in.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Well, the only future I'm contemplating is out of New
Zealand and the actually for our kids and our greend
kids and how we set the joint up for them
to have a great future with us. So now that's
what I've been doing.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Never mind some of the spotlight and the tension, the
heat has been taken off you because of the COVID inquiry.
Chippy probably hasn't come out of it that well. In fact,
the previous labor administration hasn't come out of it that well.
They just spent too much money.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Look, I think that's the key takeaway from the report
from yesterday, which is that labor spent and borrowed too much,
just for too long, and it has had long lasting
consequences and it's heard a hell of a lot of
key weason as we've seen it. I mean, there's some
pretty startling and confronting stuff in there.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
JM.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I mean, sixty six billion dollars was spent and half
of it wasn't spent on COVID. It was just wasted away.
And what have we got to show for it? Are
there any better schools, roads, hospitals and zell And know
what we've got to show for it is a tripling
of the debt and we're now paying ten billion dollars
a year on interest payments on that debts. And so yeah,
when you think about that, that's for dened in hospitals.
(03:42):
We can't build each year. That's the operating budget of
defense and police and corrections and customers and justice combined.
So you know that's in the legacy was high inflation,
high asset price inflation. House prices went up thirty percent
in a year, if you remember, and high interest rates,
and that obviously then caused the the tough recession of
times we've had.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So yeah, but playing devil's advocate, they will say only
three thousand people died. It could have been worse. We
could have lost fifty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Well, they're one of the takeaways of the initial response
wasn't too bad. But actually when you see that they
kept Auckland and lockdown for way too long the borders
with Waikato and Northland and they were in lockdown, essentially
massive damage to small businesses. Yet they were given advice
they could have opened that up. And you know, I
just think, you know, in the Iranian complex highly than
this to us, right, which is the work that we've
(04:30):
done in two years to strengthen the economy, the work
that we got even in the last three months, were
in better position than we would have been three months ago.
We've got some very positive forecasts that are better than
what everyone was expecting. You know, three percent growth in
the economy for the coming year, all that good stuff.
But that has meant that responsible economic men management really
does matter in these crises and that's what we didn't
get with COVID and as a result we're paying the
(04:52):
price of that for way too long.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
What's the latest with live animal export? Is it like
Rachel hunters here. It won't happen over night, but it
will happen.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Well, we always said we'd only reinstate it if we
could be reassured of having the highest possible stands of
animal welfare. We've got lots of really good feedback from
both the public and frankly also from the sector. And
the short position is that from a National Party perspective,
we won't be you know, we're not going to be
reinstading living on exports and it won't be something well
campaign on the next selection. You know, what we're focused
(05:23):
on with respect to growing the agriculture sector is obviously
getting cydy n FTA, making sure we're getting bit of
red tape across the system and you know, and making
sure we get farmers back to farming, get Wellington out
of it. So you know, that's where better to put
our energy rather than on this.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Have you talked to Winston and See more about this
a live animal exports thing.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yes, yes, and I think they'll be on board with
those positions. That's certainly our national party position. Obviously we're
formerly an out the government position on it. Shortly I imagined,
but but I think you've seen, you know, even you know,
other parties in the coalition are pretty you are not
against this decision anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What's the lad intel on the Middle East?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, Look, I mean from a conflict point of view,
you know, a really complex, dangerous situation. We're really concerned
about the rising death toll. It's important that the civilians
are protected. It's important international laws upheld. But what you're
saying with Iran's retaliatory attacks on its neighbors and into
civilian infrastructure is dangerous and unacceptable, and we just want
(06:23):
to encourage a quick resolution and get the Ranium leadership
to seek the negotiat a solution.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So that's the key on the conflict in terms of
its economic impact. You know, what we're seeing is that
you know, well, we're actually, as I said, in good
shape because of the work that's been going on, having
got inflation under control, interestrates under control, and growth and control.
But equally our real focus is on the fuel supply
in particular, as you've probably heard us say yesterday, we've
(06:51):
got very good supplies in country and also on the
water outside of the Himu Strait. We've got arrangements through
something called the International Energy Agency and we've even got
our Essential Supply Agreement that I signed with our Prime
Minister of Singapore to make sure that we get fuel
supplies coming to New Zealand and moments of crisis as well.
So we're in good shape on that. But we've formed
a Ministerial Response GRIPT just to make sure that we're
(07:11):
engaging with the fuel security making sure we're enserd industry positions.
Todd mcclay's on that group to make sure that trade
and supply chain challenges as people are moving freight and
product around is important, and just the general economic impacts
as well as the Commerce Commission monitoring our fuel companies
to make sure that they don't engage in their price gouging.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Okay, Prime Minister Christopher Luxe, and appreciate your time on
the country. I'm glad you're still in office and still
got the job. I don't want to housetrain another one.
I might have to do that in November.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Don't you worry. We'll be having with chats next year,
my friend.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, good on you see you laight up we go
take care Bye bye.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Thank you Prime Minister. But a confidence there will we
have to house train another prime minister come November. Interesting times.
Politics was the would be fair to say politics was
the talk of the conference yesterday, not only in New
Zealand but Australia as well. Albo not so popular with
the farmers from Australia who were at the Impact Summit
(08:07):
and the Xander McDonald Award. We're going to speak next
to the New Zealand winner, a dynamic young man, great backstory.
His name is carn Dallywell he's got a really good story.
We're going to talk about that next before the end
of the hour. Emma Higgins from Ravo Bank that come
out with their latest global Dairy quarterly report. Also talk
(08:30):
of the conference yesterday was the boom and demand for protein,
high value protein. Seems like weight loss is all about
high protein, consuming high value protein. See you go. Vanessa
Winning from MPI, Fell Duncan from Weather watch before the
end of the.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hour zed a song for the Brookie.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So yesterday I spent the day in christ Chitch for
the Impact Summit, and last night had the good fortune
and great honor to end see the Xander MacDonald Award
for twenty twenty six. We had an Aussie winner. His
name was Bryce Nayland. And we had a Key We winner.
His name was Khan dally Well. Khan joins us on
the country today and I'll tell you what you beat off.
(09:24):
Chloe Butcher Harries and Lana Marshall, good Southland girl. They
were very impressive candidates. You must be wrapped to have
won this, Carn.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Yeah, I think a testament to the Chloe and Lana
they they had a lot of great initially as they
were pushing in their community. So I'm very fortunate and
quite taken back when my name was called out. So yeah,
wonderful opportunity to be a part of and and honor.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
The spirit of the award.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So when you guys got up, the sixth finalists got
up in the afternoon to present your cases. Three Aussie's,
three New Zealander. If you don't mind me saying so, Carn,
and I know You're of Indian descent, but you sounded
like an Aussi. You still sound like a Nassi to me.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. I'm not too sure where
that actually comes from. But I am based up in
northern why Ketto and we sit quite Barna District and
close to the hills, one of the last few dairy farms,
so I think those tills are having an influence on
the exit I've picked up over the years.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So Carn Dally, well, let's have a look at your backstory,
because it's a very good one and a very impressive one.
After gaining experience as a rural banker and a fertilizer rep,
you went back farming, but not dairy farming like your parents.
You went into market gardening. Why market gardening. That's a
tough gig.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, yeah, it is a tough gig.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
I think between my wife and I, Bry, we were
kind of I grew up the dairy farm. I came
from a small scale, so I kind of saw the
challenges of what what challenge, the challenges around reinvesting in
the business and the flexibility that gave you. So but
we always wanted to go farming. But what we found
(11:10):
it was hard to go and invest in dereks is
really capital intensive industry we are part of, so to
get scar from the start was a real challenge. So
we looked at a whole lot of other things and
at the time we didn't really take into account the
risk profile of them because we were young. So we
decided to start a horticultural based business. We saw a
(11:33):
lot of opportunity in that market, so we went into
cropping and we grove watermelton for the local market. We
developed the blue real orchid which are explorded into Australia
and we've just built ten hic y read kvy fruit orchard.
So it's been a real journey, but the opportunities that
has given us, as you know, it's given us what
(11:55):
we've wanted to achieve and a great entry point was
at scale into the sector.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
How does the keiw go on wh at O region.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Very good?
Speaker 9 (12:07):
So in Towinga, as you may know, there is a
shortage of land, so Auckland and wipe It our the
fastest grown regions for kivy fruit plantings in New Zealand.
So they don't like the frost, so we do prosmetic
with water. But other than that, it is a very
ideal climate to grow kivy fruit.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Carticulture and market gardening in particular is a fraught way
to make a living. It can have rich rewards, it
can also spank you big time. You got hit by
cyclone Gabrielle.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
So one of our big years and our annual crop
in business, we increased our plantings and took on a
quite a substantial contract and we invested a lot and
unfortunately cyclone Gabrielle came in and wiped.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Out the whole lot.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
I remember gett a phone call from the lease landowner
not to come down. I think you can look at
that two ways. You can look at that as hey,
maybe this isn't for us, or what could have we
done to change it? And we never asked the question
what if a one fifty year event came through? And
I think we need to be asking that now. So
we went away from that, rebuilt our business in a
(13:16):
different location and split up all our blocks across four
leeds farms, and since that day, we've mitigated a lot
of that risk and we had a lot more resilient
business out of it.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yes, spreading the risk. Finally, what does the next twelve
months hold for you as the twenty twenty six Sanda
McDonald Award winner.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
I think the biggest sit my hand up in this
for the award is to expand on really big I'm
really big on building expertise because expertise we knew, are
passionate about something and apply then they create grade outcomes.
And my grade outcomes that I want to achieve are
(13:55):
in the primary sector. So I'm wanting to build on
those expertees, typically around the technical capability of production systems
that's partial and cropping around leadership styles how to lead
through difficult situations and bring your team along, because we
can't do this, sirs, and we've learned that's the hard
way in our business. So I'm really keen to draw
(14:19):
on expertise and use it to do a better job.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And prim receector can dally well there. Twenty twenty six
Xander McDonald Award winner, you beat off a couple of
stunning entrants and Chloe Butcher Harries and Lana Marshall. Well
done and I'm sure you'll do a great job as
an ambassador over the next twelve months.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Thanks for your time, No beautiful appreciate that Jamie.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Good on your mate, Thanks Carnt. Very impressive young man,
mind you so Also we're Lana Marshall and Chloe Butcher Harries,
the other two New Zealand finalists. It was great also,
and I've spoken to them on the wireless but never
really met them in person. Tested chartress Nancy Crawshaw. Twenty
(15:01):
twenty four winners Megan Blom. Megan Blom from Balfa, although
she's on a muscle farm up in Marlbourne now. Great
to meet her as well. Very impressive young people. If
that's the future of New Zealand agriculture in the primary sector,
I'll tell you what we are in good hands. Up next,
another dynamic young I suppose she's young. Everything's relative, isn't it.
(15:23):
Emma Higgins from Rabobanks. She's their senior agg analysts. They've
just released their global Dairy quarterly report. There's so much
milk around the world at the moment, how come the
milk prices going up? And more importantly, is there a
correlation between oil prices which is spiking at the moment
even though they've settled down or weebit and homework powder.
(15:46):
We'll ask Emma next on the country.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You're scared, it's.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She is Rabobanks senior agg analyst. Her name is Emma Higgins.
She's just come out with the Q one Global Dairy
Quarterly Report, and I must say, Emma, as much as
I appreciate your work, I was very disappointed in this
report that you didn't give me a number a milk price.
Why bother writing a report if you're not going to
give me a quarterly number update.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
It's a bit harsh, Jamie. I feel like every time
I to give you a number, you tend to challenge it.
So yeah, we've gone for another approach this time. But no,
look broadly, you know, Fonterra has listed the milk price
forecast from nine bucks up to nine fifty. Great result.
Obviously we started season at ten. I think the biggest
thing right now, Jamie, is that there is so much
(16:53):
volatility out there. Markets are moving wildly at that commodity level,
at that energy level, and dairy is to a certain
extent getting caught up in this as well. So I
feel like at this point in time, it's less about
the number and more about what kind of risks and
management process you can pop into your business structure, right
(17:14):
now with how volatile.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The world is becoming, well, let me try another angle.
I was hosting a panel yesterday at the Impact Summit
and christ Church and on that panel it was none
other than Fonterra chief executive Miles Hurrell, and I asked
him about the supposed correlation between the price of oil
and whole milk powder and he kind of said, well,
we live in a very volatile world. Economies are struggling,
(17:37):
that's going to be greater inflation. But basically yes, it
was his answer to the fact that there is a correlation.
So ultimately, Couldney Zealand dairy farmers benefit from Donald Trump's
actions in the Middle East in the short term, at least.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
In the short term. Yeah, I don't disagree with any
of that. So historically used to has been a correlation
between oil prices and homewalk power prices. If we look
to the oil markets, holy molely, I mean financial markets
have been absolutely rattled by the situation this week. Exhibit
A was you know, Monday's wild whipsawing prices heading close
(18:12):
to about one hundred and twenty bucks a barrel for cruit.
Today we're sitting back around that mid eighties mark well
down from Monday's highs, but still you much higher than
most of the twenty twenty six prices around that sixty
dollars a barrel mark. So in the short term I
think New Zealand could benefit from it. We just have
to look at Exhibit B, which was the GEDT which
was held last week. The Middle East were buyers in
(18:35):
that auction and they bought more when it comes to
skim of powder in particular, and they are really important
secondary market for New Zealand. So I think the long
and the short of it is New Zealand might benefit
from this. In this instance. The challenge will be, you know,
the distribution, the route to market, because right now one
of the critical chock points is held up, so to speak,
(18:58):
and that's what's causing all of this uncertainty.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Economics one oh one supply and demand. How come we're
getting a rising dairy commodity market when we've got a
rising supply Some would say almost to glut, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So the things that we can train and measure and
understand somewhat suggest that milk spplay still is really strong
and most of those exporting regions we've talked about this
at length and previous interviews. There's still a lot of
milk coming out of the United States. December milk for
the European regions was very very high as well compared
(19:34):
to the year prayer and New Zealander is also contributing
to this. However, what we're seeing is New Zealand markets
out of step with some of the pressures elsewhere. If
we look to the GDT, the volumes that have been
offered on the GDT are now well below historic levels
(19:56):
for some commodities, and so that's really helped powder prices.
And then we have another overlaying impact where the high
protein boom, which is very very strong in Western markets,
particularly in the United States, has had a drag upwards
in a positive way for protein prices, and skim of
(20:18):
powder in particular has been a major beneficiary of that
as well. So there's things that we can measure at
a high level, and then there's regional nuances and dairy
commodity nuances that New Zealand is benefiting from.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Once again, just to finish on that was one of
the talking points at the conference the summit yesterday. This
boom and demand for protein, high value protein at bodes well,
doesn't it? For the New zealandairy industry.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
It really does bode well because if you think about it,
the way that we're consuming protein, it's great news story
for dairy. You know, you've only got to look through
the chilliisles here in New Zealand to see all these
high protein yogurts taking up a lot of retail space.
If we think about some of those broader macro trends
around aging demographics and also things like GLP one as
(21:10):
well the weight loss drug, both of those two particular
macro trends lend themselves very nicely to deiry playing an
increasingly important role. And again, thinking about what we produce
here in New Zealand, we are lining up add ducks
very nicely to be the beneficiaries of this.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Emma Higgins, co author of Rabobanks Q one Global Dairy Quarterly,
Love your work, but next time give me a number.
See you later by Jamie. Thanks Emma. It is what
is it? Twenty six, twenty seven away from one? Yeah,
I was just having a look at that. Emma was
talking about that oil price. Brent Crew's currently sitting at
(21:49):
eighty seven dollars and sixty three cents hot off the press.
What did it get up to on? Was it Monday? Sunday?
Monday one hundred and twenty bucks. Interestingly, the enz X
fifty or top fifty up two thirds of a percent today,
so maybe the markets are taking this in their stride now.
Interesting times up next Rural News, Sports News before the
(22:12):
end of their Vanessa Winning from MPI. Phil Duncan from
weather Watch twenty three are away from One Bad Medicine
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My wife would probably suggest that I need them. But
the Hosk is also doing Resonate ad libs. I wonder
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do a hearing aid ad lib maybe.
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Although I've heard that story about the chainsaw and your
one bad yo so much time now, Well.
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A good story is worth repeating, Michelle. Yes, imagine spending
a winter on the chainsaw without Yeah, those were the
days when it was nineteen eighty.
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You're probably in chands as well, were you.
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I was in gum boots. It was in gum boots,
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hearing left. And I'm lucky. I've still got all with toes.
Never mind, Okay, let's have a look at what's happening
in Rural News, the.
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Now, before I get into today's news story, Jamie asked
you before I said, do you know why I picked
bond Jove today?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, I noticed that when I was leading into the
interview with the Prime Minastery you'd picked living on a prayer?
Is that this sort of a subtle message for him?
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Actually that's a good seguey, I liked that one. I
didn't think of that one actually picked bad. I thought
you were going to pick bad medicine because of the chat.
Was the Chippy obviously in the COVID Inquirer wasn't quite
sure which one you would pick between those.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Wow, we've got Chippie on the show tomorrow. It's election yere,
We've got to be fair and give everyone a crack.
And I did catch up with Chippy and full creditor
Sean Fitzpatrick would say it to Chippey because he did
front up at the Golden shars and I bought him
a sausage roll. I'm discovering the bases. That's all Michelle, right,
what do you got.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
In Rural news okay and Royal News. Congratulations to John
and Fiona Sherlock who are announced the regional Supreme winners
of the Wyre Kett or Balanced Farm Awards last night.
They now join other regional winners from across the country
for the Gordon Stevenson Trophy at the National Showcase in
christ Church in July. The next regional event is actually
tonight for the Greater Wellington region. And on my music topic,
(25:41):
it's because there's a biopic coming out about John bon Jovi.
You're be excited about that.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You love you, how I love those? I love those
biopics absolutely, that'll be a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Here's sport sports on the country with a fco business well.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Done and how about this for a good day at
the office. The Indian men's cricket team will dive up
twenty three million dollars from their local governing body for
lifting the T twenty World Cup for a third time.
Carteney Clark, Nick Kelly and Jaden Lennox are in line
for Black Cat's Tea twenty deboots against South Africa. The
(26:15):
series starts excuse me on Sunday. No rest for the Wicked,
although most of the World Cup squad are getting arrest.
That Carteney Clark, I've watched him a bit this summer.
I hope he gets to go. And the Crusaders have
lost playmaking understudy James White for the rest of the
Super Rugby season to shoulder injury. Right up next we
(26:38):
get we it's Vanessa winning from MPI and poor old
Phil Duncan. We've booted him to touch on Monday. We
booted them to touch on Tuesday, but we always get
our weather man here on the country. We're going to
wind it out with Phil Duncan and his autumn outlook. Well,
(27:05):
welcome back to the country. It's quarter her away from
one someone who was meant to be at the conference
yesterday but somehow didn't make it. A Vanessa Wanning from MPI.
Vanessa before we actually we're going to talk about let
me describ your text up here. I'm totally unprepared because
I've literally jumped off a plane and into a studio.
We're going to talk emergency preparedness events that are starting today.
(27:28):
But I first met you, as I think I said
a month ago or so when we were chatting at
Field Days at the Triple PA Farming con conference. Are
the brainschild of Shane mcmanaway, and we did the smartest
person in the room and you actually won it. Now
last night you'll be pleased to know, Vanessa, that the
smartest two people in the room with my heads and
(27:50):
tails eliminating everyone. It only took seven questions. Were Jane Field,
who's a key we originally I think from Motchawacre, but
arming in Tasmania with her husband. And the other one
was Liz Hegerton who was runner up. She's farming seventeen
thousand hectares in Western Australia and his fate would have it, Vanessa.
(28:12):
She was the next door neighbor to one of my
best mates who was a West Australian when I was
at Lincoln.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
What a small world we live in a huge That's amazing.
And do you guys still remember what you did back
in those days in terms of behavior in Lincoln.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, he turned up at my wedding. His name was
Joe Young, and I think because back in the Lincoln
days we used to do that too, fitar thing, and
I'm sure we'll reminisce on that tomorrow night in Wanaka.
But it did involve a wee bit of murder ty.
I obviously didn't partake on my wedding day, but the
Lincoln Boys did and I remember Joe leading it. So
(28:48):
hello Joe if you're listening and coaching up in Western Australia.
Now Liz and Jane got down. They were the last
one standing after six questions. The seventh question decided the winner.
So I'm going to throw it at you. How smart
are you Vanessa winning? What was the name of popstar
Adell's most recent album? Was it twenty fifteen or twenty
(29:13):
twenty one? What would you have gone for?
Speaker 8 (29:17):
I would have gone for twenty twenty one and you
would have won.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, you would have been tied with Jane Field. So
there you go. Four albums and they all kind of
had dates and names around them. Tell me about this
emergency preparedness stuff from MPI.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Yeah, sure, So, as you know, we're in ten regions
and so we're trying to help farmers and growers get
ready for weather activity. So we've had a massive first
few months of the year across the country in terms
of you know, whend rain, hail storm. So the idea
(29:51):
behind them is to try and build up as much
resilience as we can, and we're starting today because we've
got a very first one West coast. And essentially it's
about being ready for what's going to hit. We generally
know a couple of days out it's something BIG's coming
or expected to come, So what do you need to
do to get ready for it? So? Do you need
(30:13):
to milk cows earlier? Do we need to get the
processes in there to pick up the milk earlier? Do
you have access to a generator? Are you plugged in
for a generator? All of those sorts of things. So
we've prepared checklists. Is going to a function going on
in each of these events. I think there's about twenty
odd of them across the country, So go to our
website you can find out more information about them. But
(30:36):
essentially what we're trying to do is really help farmers
and growers get ready and to be honest, Omi, they
are getting better and better every time, and it's amazing
how resilient farmers have become.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Those well, mind you they need to be and We
spoke to carn Deli Well a wee bit earlier, the
New Zealand Wonder of the Zanda McDonald wards. He's a
market gardeners into horticulture in the White Caddow region there
and he is now saying he's effectively farmer for a
one and fifty year event. And I don't know whether
Gabrielle's a one on fifty year event, but we're certainly
going to get more of that sort of.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Stuff absolutely, So you know, take what you can do,
what you can, be as much in control as you can,
and you'll be able to get through it a lot better.
There doesn't mean there won't be extremes that are just
outside of your control, but reducing the impact as much
as possible that will also reduce the burden on insurance, etc.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Toe.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
So I take my head off to farmers and girls
across the country. They really are taking this on board
and they are getting a lot more resilient. So we
just here to help them and provide them with those
checklists and support where we can.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You've sent me a list of all the events that
are happening on the egg primary sect the calendar over
the next month or two amazing, such a busy time.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Oh my god, it's so huge and it's so positive.
I mean, you're just talking about Exandra McDonald wood garcid
to have missed it, but you just can't beat everything
at the moment. But you know, you think about last week.
We've also had the Golden Shares as well. This week
we've got Wanica. Next week, we've got Central Districts Field Days,
we've got the Air Games. You know, it is a
(32:10):
huge period of time for activity. So you know, I'm
so impressed at how much you know, mostly volunteer based
organizations are out there getting farmers and growers off farm,
celebrating wins and the positivity is massive, Like you know,
the description that you were giving in terms at Sander
McDonald's awards, that positivity is just raining through the country,
(32:33):
which is so good to see.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, one at a show Friday and Saturday, the Rural
Games and Palmerston North Friday, Saturday Sunday, and we haven't
even mentioned the likes of the ongoing ones, the Young
Farmer Regional Finals, the Balanced Farm Environment Awards, Industry Awards,
Dairy Industry Awards at a South Island dairy event. That's
a great event that's on at Lincoln again this year.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yes see Saints and fasteenth of April. You know, really
cold line up this year. So honestly, anyone in the
South Island is in dairy, you really should get along.
We've got Cam doing his camp, Baggery doing his breakfast
which is always a sellout. You know, getting an hour
and a half with home is huge. And we've also
got this extra program this year at side called the
(33:18):
Legends of Dairy, So we've got Colin Glass, Leanna Guiney
and Well Grayling giving their warts and all conversation around
you know, how to be successful, how to grow, how
to support others what they're doing for the industry. So
you know, Legends of Dairy with Inside is such a cool,
unique little spot that we're doing for the first time.
(33:38):
But you know we talk about just the vegie sector.
I've never seen so much positivity in the vegetable growing sector.
And you're so cool that the Zenda McDonald Award winner
was a market gardener. But last Tuesday the Veggie Center
of Excellence hosted five hundred grow from across New Zealand.
(34:02):
Across people came up from the South Island, people came
across from Australia looking at what new technologies they were
to reduce our application of pscides, herbicide, etc. So they
were taken through a series of trials. It was so
good to see in so much positivity. It did happen
to be a beautiful day and book a coe.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Okay, Vanessa got to go, thanks for your time. You
mentioned Will Growling. Of course, he's twenty eleven young farmer
of the air at the time, and this was a
compliment at the time. I said he was a Prince
Harry lookalike. I don't think he want to be one
of those these days. Anyhow, I got to go, Hey,
thanks for your time and good luck getting to some
of these events over the next month or two.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Yeah, thanks Jamie. Hopefully I'll see you there.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yep, good on Vanessa winning there from MPI. Up next,
we're going to wrap it with Phil Duncan.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Weather on the country with Fiji where happiness comes naturally.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yes, Fiji, where happiness comes naturally. Who well, I want
to go to Fiji. Everyone would at this time of
the year. Okay, Fell Duncan. We bumped you on Monday.
We didn't get time. We missed you yesterday, had a
boozy lunch or something like that. I've got you. I've
got you today. Mate. Let me just turn on your
fav O there. Hey, talk to me about your autumn outlock,
(35:29):
because I'm looking at the old sorry just getting off
Mike here, just looking at the old drought index maps me.
I want to do two things that once can't multitask.
So so the far North, the man Or two region
and kind of inland central Otago getting a bit dry.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, definitely good to be back with you. We are
seeing some dry conditions in the Far North in particular,
they will get some rain from the low pressure zone
that is that is moving into the Upper Northland at
the moment, although the low is going to fall apart,
but it is going to drive in some where. They're
mostly north of Auckland and Bay of Plinty and so yeah,
a little bit of a relief coming there. But yeah,
(36:06):
definitely some dry areas around the North Island, areas like
Corimandal Peninsula that were previously you know, flooded and landslides
and all that, and there's really been very little rain
over the last month or two.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
What's in your autumn outlook?
Speaker 6 (36:19):
So basically fairly orderly March at the moment, a lot
of high pressure, so we're kicking off March with more
high pressure, but the high pressure systems are moving around,
moving northwards to better. That encourages the windy westerlies to
be coming in, and so we'll get a we've got
windy easterlies today at the top of the country, but
by Friday, certainly by Saturday, we'll we'll have windy south
(36:41):
to southwesterlies right across all of New Zealm. So fairly
kind of benign start to autumn, and I think we're
likely to be seeing it go this way going into April.
Nothing too overly dramatic from the north or the south
at this stage, although there is a possible tropical cyclone
next week up near New Caledonia, definitely worth keeping.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And I reckon a lot of the horticulture industry, the
arable farmers, a lot of the crops are being harvested
or taken off at the moment. Phil, I think they'll
take that. Yeah, I mean not to mention the grapes,
of course.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, that's right. When I look at the maps is
there's sort of nothing jumping out other than the load
that we've got today. Nothing too big on the way
at this stage, although some some severe ware they're here
and there, but definitely a reduction on where we were
just a month or so ago.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well that's a very settled forecast from our resident Monday
weather expert on a Wednesday. Thanks for hanging in there, Phil,
really appreciate it, my pleasure. Good on you, Phil Duncan
there from weather watch dot co dot inz. He's got
an excellent rural offering. Go and have a look at
his website whether watch dot co dots in z. All right,
(37:49):
good to be back in Dunedin today. The life of
a traveling salesman continues tomorrow. As soon as I get
it off here, I'm off to Wanaka. Looking forward to that.
We'll catch you back in the studio tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
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