October 30, 2025 • 20 mins
Our Prime Minister has met and dined with one of the most powerful people in the world - Donald Trump.
Christopher Luxon and Trump spoke at an APEC dinner last night.
It's expected to be one of the most significant meetings Luxon will have at the economic conference, despite the two not having a formal bilateral.
The summit is straight off the back of one with the Association of South East Asian Nations, or ASEAN.
Newstalk ZB political reporter Azaria Howell has been travelling alongside Luxon, she joins us today on The Front Page.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Kilra.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a
daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. Our Prime
minister has met and dined with one of the most
powerful people in the world, Donald Trump. Christopher Luxen and
Trump spoke at an APEC dinner the other night and
(00:28):
it's expected to be one of the most significant meetings
Luxon will have at the economic conference. Despite the two
not having a formal bilateral the summit is straight off
the back of one with the Association of Southeast Asian
Nations or Arsian. Newstalk ZB political reporter Azaria Hawe has
(00:49):
been traveling alongside Luxon and she joins us now on
the Front Page. First off, Azaria apek Yan For people
who don't know what these acronyms are, what are they?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah? So APEC is a really massive economic convention. It's
sort of bringing together a number of world leaders from
really across the globe to speak about the economy, to
speak about trade, and also global security. So it's a
lot of talks in terms of international security and also
face to face meetings between some of the leaders of
(01:27):
these countries. New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Luxen at APEC
and also ASIAN which is the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
Chris Luxin has met with a number of world leaders
at this and had face to face what we call
bilateral meetings, So those are really significant. It's sort of
having these countries together, and New Zealand is a country
(01:50):
that relies on trade quite a lot, so it is
really important that we put face to name and keep
up those relationships in terms of trading. There's also a
number of deals that have taken place or some that
are getting closer to taking place as well. So the
Association of Southeast Asian Nations a huge sort of trading
block there in New Zealand, aiming to really finalize and
(02:14):
ratify a comprehensive strategic partnership that would make it one
of sort of just a few countries in the world
that has that basically an upgraded trading relationship, and that
would be really significant for New Zealand exporters, but also
for the global economy of Usian. We've been hearing that
ASIAN and APEC represent sort of about sixty to seventy
(02:38):
percent of the world's economy, which is massive. I mean
we're talking about some of the people that are at
APEC as well, China's Jijinpeing, the US's Donald Trump as well.
So some of the most important people in the world
are here and Chris Luxen is getting a chance to
see some of these people face to face talk about
(03:01):
It's also really significant as it comes with the tariff
rollout amidst all of that from the US President Donald Trump.
But basically the gist of these meetings APEC is in
South Korea this year, Asian which was just wrapped up recently.
That was in Kuala Lumpur. So the Prime Minister has
(03:23):
traveled across the world for these so have a lot
of world leaders as well, So really significant economic talks.
Also talks about security and trade and just giving an
opportunity for those countries to meet each other and speak
and maybe get some trade deals across the line, or
at least a bit closer to happening.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I saw that Malaysia is announcing investment into the New
Zealand economy across multiple sectors. What sectors are they?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, this is a really important one for New Zealand.
I mean, if we look the New Zealand government has
been trying to push for investment quite a lot. They've
had investment boosts in other policies such as that to
try to really push global capital to go into the
New Zealand economy. So if we look at this Malaysian investment,
and Malaysia was where Asian was being hosted the Association
(04:15):
of Southeast Asian Nation Summit. We look at what happened
with Malaysia, A big investment was announced. One of them
was on renewable energy, so that was supporting wind energy
into New Zealand. And also hotel, the hotel industry and tourism.
That's a massive industry for New Zealand as well. I mean,
(04:38):
it's a very significant one, and especially if we look
at how it works in Asia, it's relatively nearby in
terms of that, so hoping that that might boost travel.
So take me through Acion.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know that the government has been looking more into
trade talks with Southeast Asian countries. This is obviously the
place to do it. We've heard about Malaysia. But who
else did he meet up with there?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, the Prime Minison met with a number of world leaders.
He met with the leader of the Philippines, which was significant.
Also team or Leste, which doesn't really seem that significant,
but it is with the backdrop of they have just
joined Asian so the association, which means that that trading
block is getting even bigger. So I suppose the thoughts
(05:24):
behind that is if we do that quickly while they've
just joined USIAN, we'll start off with a really good
trading relationship there. The Prime ministers also match with the
leader of Cambodia as well and also Thailand, those as
well really significant globally. There's been a conflict taking place.
There's been a cease fire as well that has been
(05:46):
overseen by the American President, So it is good to
see how those nations are reacting. Chris Luxen speaking about
them both highly and also praising some of the efforts
to get where we are now in terms of that
cease fire as well. So there's been a number of
meetings and also as we've been talking about, a number
(06:07):
of business meetings as well that have been taking place.
A lot of people actually some people have recognized Chris
Luxin from a former life, people saying he was the
former chief executive of Air New Zealand as well while
introducing him, and I feel like Luxon has also been
using that to his advantage. He's sat in a press
(06:28):
conference recently that he's spoken about his business background as
well with a number of people. So that is a
really significant, I suppose skill that Chris Luxon has coming
into this having that business background and also being the
Prime Minister of New Zealand being able to mash those
together in terms of these big economic talks very significant here.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, what we really want to see is, you know,
with the two biggest economies of the world, to be
able to have you know, to be able to have
a calm and de escalated gives a lot of certainty
to everybody else. And as you've seen a lot of
what you know otherwise, he creates chaos, and it creates
a lack of certainty and a lack of clarity, and
as a result, businesses don't invest in, consumers don't spend,
(07:20):
and so you know, that's that's the second and third
order consequences of the US and China not being working
together for mutual benefit.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What do you reckon is the main headline of APEX
from Christopher Lackson's point of view.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you would have to
say that The big headline from this is that Chris
Luxen and Donald Trump have met, They've spoken, So this
is really really significant. I mean, we think about Donald Trump,
people say he's the leader of the free world. He's
probably one of the most influential people that exists currently,
(07:57):
So this is a massive massive Chris Luxon and Donald
Trump had the opportunity to have a meeting and to
speak before they both went into a formal dinner. That
dinner was hosted by the South Korean president and it
was put on for APEC leaders, a really intimate dinner
setting as well. It was a sort of small white
(08:20):
table in quite a big room as well. Just the
world leaders were there. So some of the other gala
dinners that we've seen had officials and media as well.
The media were there for a bit of it, but
there were no officials, no diplomats. It was just the
big names, and Chris Luxen was one of those names.
He went into this meeting with Donald Trump. World leaders
(08:43):
had already arrived at the dinner. People like Anthony Alberanizi,
Canada's Mark Karney as well were already sort of in
the room in this kind of waiting room. I suppose
with media before actually heading into the dinner, and then
two p all came through the door, Chris Luxon and
(09:03):
Donald Trump. So they came through the door and had
a few remarks to media and also had quite a
quite a funny interaction. Last one here, I thought, so
Chris Luckson obviously famously doesn't have any hair. It was
(09:24):
quite a chummy and funny interaction between those leaders as well.
But Chris Luckson had a press conference after that meeting
and after that formal dinner as well, and managed to
speak a bit about what happened. He said he wouldn't
give a blow by blow analysis, but said that it
was a good opportunity to be able to speak to
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to Donald Trump and to a number of other world leaders.
I believe there were about seven or eight leaders at
that dinner table, so very intimate setting. He said, you
would imagine the topic of tariffs to come up, but
didn't really go into too much detail about what those
conversations look like. Also, interestingly, the Prime Minister invited Donald
(10:12):
Trump to sort of have a look at New Zealand.
Donald Trump is a keen golfer, and Chris Luckson said
that New Zealand would maybe be a good place to
practice some of that golf and to have a try
on some of our golf courses as well. We'll see
if that invitation is accepted. I believe there's been similar
invitations in terms of Australia and things like that. Donald
(10:33):
Trump obviously a very busy man. But Chris Luckson did
say at his press conference, if that were to happen,
which is a big if, just to preface, if that
were to happen, he thinks that New Zealand would be
able to cope with this sort of security detail that
would be needed for something like that. But in terms
of the actual meeting, so so significant, so major. It's
(10:57):
the first time actually that Donald Trump and Ris Luckson
have met in person. They spoke on the phone while
when Trump was confirmed as the US president, as you'd expect,
but on that day you'd also expect Trump to be
getting calls from pretty much every world leader, so there
wouldn't really be a chance to actually go into much detail.
(11:17):
And also, finally, Donald Trump said Chris l Likesen was
a friend of his. And then after a sort of
a bit of questions were thrown at Donald Trump in
that press room before the dinner, he said, I like
your man from New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I would expect that that means good things about our
trade relationship in future. But I guess we're very, very
very far down the list of people to speak to
Donald Trump about tariffs. Did Chris Luckson say anything else
about But he's keeping pretty tight lipped, isn't he.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Previously in a CEO summit, Chris Luckson did a Q
and A just before, so it was on the same
day that he met Trump. He was saying, we're pushing
for sort of rules based trading, we're pushing for free trade,
but also said, well, all of these countries, they're acting
in their own best interest. He also name dropped the
US as one of those countries that was acting in
(12:12):
its best interest, but then said essentially free trade would
be in New Zealand's best interests. So he has been
pushing in the background speaking about his views on tariffs.
His views on tariffs are well known, but what we
aren't one hundred percent clear about is how much of
that actually got through to Donald Trump at that sort
of dinner. He's saying he's not going to go into
(12:34):
those details, but also said, well, it would be obvious
that something like that would come up. I mean, this
is a major economic convention. There's a lot of these
talks taking place, and tariffs is one of the biggest
things globally that has been taking place in terms of
the APEC region and just the world in terms of
(12:56):
global trade. So you would expect that to come up,
But in terms of what was actually spoken about, it's
not very clear. The world leaders keeping relatively tight lipped,
but you would assume that maybe they might even have
to to sort of keep a good relationship with Donald
Trump as well. I mean, just getting that meeting is
very significant, so you wouldn't want to be upsetting the
(13:19):
man just after meeting him, you think.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So, what's on the agenda for today is area.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, so today we're also going to see some more
investments on the cards. There's an event that's planned on
the green economy. Now we don't have too much details
about this yet, but it could be some sort of
sustainability announcement as well. New Zealand has previously been sort
of marketing itself, shall we say, in terms of being
(13:47):
a clean and green economy, so maybe that has a
part to play in that as well. And also yesterday
there was an event at the Skyline lou that's a
big company in New Zealand and sort of trying to
get that investment and tourism as well, trying to really
(14:08):
show New Zealand as a place to visit. And I mean,
how much better of a way to do it than
in a place where a bunch of world leaders from
Asia and across the globe are in the same room together.
There's media from all over the world here covering these
events and covering what is going on. So there's a
(14:29):
number of things still taking place also, bilateral meetings with
a number of people, Chris Luxen meeting with South Korea's
President Lee as well after that sort of formal dinner
that they had as well with Donald Trump and some
other world leaders. So still a lot of economic talks,
(14:50):
meetings and business events as well here.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Ventually. The people of South Korea have forged a miracle
of economic development like you rarely see, an industrial and
technological powerhouse, and above all, a free society and enduring
democracy and a thriving civilization. And I want to congratulate you.
Very few places like it the entire world should be
(15:21):
inspired by all that you have achieved, and they study
you and they do so much to understand what you've done,
but most of them don't get it, and that's probably
good for you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Keep it this way.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Most of them don't get it. They want to get it,
but it doesn't quite work out for them the same
way it works out for you. So that's a great
tribute to you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And tell me, Sariah, I know that you've been kind
of following around Luxon in the press pack. I assume
that there are a few journalists there from New Zealand
and is it kind of the same you see other
kind of press following their respective leaders as well? Like
do you interact with one another? Do you talk to
the other journalists from different countries? What's it like behind
(16:08):
the scenes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, it's really cool. I mean, we have the media
center which is absolutely massive. It is pat I mean
you would think that there's and I'm not too great
actually with counting crowds, which hasn't been good in my
journalism career, to be honest, but you'd have to think
there are hundreds and hundreds of people in these massive
press rooms as well. They sort of sit in these
(16:31):
blocks there was people from Australia as well that we
interacted with. They actually came to an event at Asian
as well, so we kind of were like, oh, I
saw you a couple of days ago in Kuala Lumpur
and now you're here in South Korea. But yeah, there's
a lot of press packs, a lot of people, lots
(16:52):
going on as well, and also just in the backgrounds
and in the behind the scenes. A lot of cultural
performances is food trucks as well with Korean food, so
that's as well interesting trying to show that off to
the media and the Korean food, the Korean culture. There's
been a performances drumming, We've had some fried chicken from
(17:15):
a Korean food track, and in fact I was actually
interviewed by Korean State TV on whether or not I
liked the fried chicken. They were doing sort of boxes
with some of the foreign media, and it was great.
It was really good. It's very good fried chicken. So
trying to see if I can find that interview clip somewhere,
but yeah, it's really cool to see all of the
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media here as well, a lot of American media as
you'd expect as well, traveling with the American President Donald Trump.
They're sort of also in the room as well. But yeah,
it's been a really really interesting and significant event and
one of the things that you would sort of expect,
but has been really eye opening to see just the
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amount of security everywhere. I mean, there's security guards, there's
police as far as the eye can see the station
sort of everywhere around the city as well. There's also
flags around the city that say APEC on them. It's
very obvious that APEC is taking place. There's also been
road closures for motorcades. And the other day actually we
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saw Trump's motorcade forty eight cars, forty eight vehicles that
were in that motorcade and also get this, a helicopter
above the motorcade as well, so massive, that was huge.
New Zealand has a motiicate as well, but forty eight
cars nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That probably doesn't have a chopper upperhead as well.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No, exactly. Well, that was the only chopper that we saw,
and everyone started filming it immediately once we heard this
sort of the chopper go up above. But yeah, so
Donald Trump has been the big one in terms of
the motorcades, of the security as well, and also media
who were covering that dinner with Trump, Luxen and some
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other world leaders. They had to go through a number
of rounds of security as well a few batches. They
actually brought in a dog as well, like a sniffer dog,
to sniff through people's media bags as well. I mean,
these are some of the biggest world leaders in the
entire world, and they were They had dogs sniffing through
people's bags. They had scanners and sort of things that
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you would see at an airport, so very high security
here trying to protect some of the biggest diplomats, the biggest,
most influential people.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well lucky you didn't save any of that Korean fried
chicken in your media bag or Zaria.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks so much,
it's been great.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
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Kilra.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a
daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. Our Prime
minister has met and dined with one of the most
powerful people in the world, Donald Trump. Christopher Luxen and
Trump spoke at an APEC dinner the other night and
(00:28):
it's expected to be one of the most significant meetings
Luxon will have at the economic conference. Despite the two
not having a formal bilateral the summit is straight off
the back of one with the Association of Southeast Asian
Nations or Arsian. Newstalk ZB political reporter Azaria Hawe has
(00:49):
been traveling alongside Luxon and she joins us now on
the Front Page. First off, Azaria apek Yan For people
who don't know what these acronyms are, what are they?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah? So APEC is a really massive economic convention. It's
sort of bringing together a number of world leaders from
really across the globe to speak about the economy, to
speak about trade, and also global security. So it's a
lot of talks in terms of international security and also
face to face meetings between some of the leaders of
(01:27):
these countries. New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Luxen at APEC
and also ASIAN which is the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
Chris Luxin has met with a number of world leaders
at this and had face to face what we call
bilateral meetings, So those are really significant. It's sort of
having these countries together, and New Zealand is a country
(01:50):
that relies on trade quite a lot, so it is
really important that we put face to name and keep
up those relationships in terms of trading. There's also a
number of deals that have taken place or some that
are getting closer to taking place as well. So the
Association of Southeast Asian Nations a huge sort of trading
block there in New Zealand, aiming to really finalize and
(02:14):
ratify a comprehensive strategic partnership that would make it one
of sort of just a few countries in the world
that has that basically an upgraded trading relationship, and that
would be really significant for New Zealand exporters, but also
for the global economy of Usian. We've been hearing that
ASIAN and APEC represent sort of about sixty to seventy
(02:38):
percent of the world's economy, which is massive. I mean
we're talking about some of the people that are at
APEC as well, China's Jijinpeing, the US's Donald Trump as well.
So some of the most important people in the world
are here and Chris Luxen is getting a chance to
see some of these people face to face talk about
(03:01):
It's also really significant as it comes with the tariff
rollout amidst all of that from the US President Donald Trump.
But basically the gist of these meetings APEC is in
South Korea this year, Asian which was just wrapped up recently.
That was in Kuala Lumpur. So the Prime Minister has
(03:23):
traveled across the world for these so have a lot
of world leaders as well, So really significant economic talks.
Also talks about security and trade and just giving an
opportunity for those countries to meet each other and speak
and maybe get some trade deals across the line, or
at least a bit closer to happening.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I saw that Malaysia is announcing investment into the New
Zealand economy across multiple sectors. What sectors are they?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, this is a really important one for New Zealand.
I mean, if we look the New Zealand government has
been trying to push for investment quite a lot. They've
had investment boosts in other policies such as that to
try to really push global capital to go into the
New Zealand economy. So if we look at this Malaysian investment,
and Malaysia was where Asian was being hosted the Association
(04:15):
of Southeast Asian Nation Summit. We look at what happened
with Malaysia, A big investment was announced. One of them
was on renewable energy, so that was supporting wind energy
into New Zealand. And also hotel, the hotel industry and tourism.
That's a massive industry for New Zealand as well. I mean,
(04:38):
it's a very significant one, and especially if we look
at how it works in Asia, it's relatively nearby in
terms of that, so hoping that that might boost travel.
So take me through Acion.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know that the government has been looking more into
trade talks with Southeast Asian countries. This is obviously the
place to do it. We've heard about Malaysia. But who
else did he meet up with there?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, the Prime Minison met with a number of world leaders.
He met with the leader of the Philippines, which was significant.
Also team or Leste, which doesn't really seem that significant,
but it is with the backdrop of they have just
joined Asian so the association, which means that that trading
block is getting even bigger. So I suppose the thoughts
(05:24):
behind that is if we do that quickly while they've
just joined USIAN, we'll start off with a really good
trading relationship there. The Prime ministers also match with the
leader of Cambodia as well and also Thailand, those as
well really significant globally. There's been a conflict taking place.
There's been a cease fire as well that has been
(05:46):
overseen by the American President, So it is good to
see how those nations are reacting. Chris Luxen speaking about
them both highly and also praising some of the efforts
to get where we are now in terms of that
cease fire as well. So there's been a number of
meetings and also as we've been talking about, a number
(06:07):
of business meetings as well that have been taking place.
A lot of people actually some people have recognized Chris
Luxin from a former life, people saying he was the
former chief executive of Air New Zealand as well while
introducing him, and I feel like Luxon has also been
using that to his advantage. He's sat in a press
(06:28):
conference recently that he's spoken about his business background as
well with a number of people. So that is a
really significant, I suppose skill that Chris Luxon has coming
into this having that business background and also being the
Prime Minister of New Zealand being able to mash those
together in terms of these big economic talks very significant here.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, what we really want to see is, you know,
with the two biggest economies of the world, to be
able to have you know, to be able to have
a calm and de escalated gives a lot of certainty
to everybody else. And as you've seen a lot of
what you know otherwise, he creates chaos, and it creates
a lack of certainty and a lack of clarity, and
as a result, businesses don't invest in, consumers don't spend,
(07:20):
and so you know, that's that's the second and third
order consequences of the US and China not being working
together for mutual benefit.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What do you reckon is the main headline of APEX
from Christopher Lackson's point of view.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you would have to
say that The big headline from this is that Chris
Luxen and Donald Trump have met, They've spoken, So this
is really really significant. I mean, we think about Donald Trump,
people say he's the leader of the free world. He's
probably one of the most influential people that exists currently,
(07:57):
So this is a massive massive Chris Luxon and Donald
Trump had the opportunity to have a meeting and to
speak before they both went into a formal dinner. That
dinner was hosted by the South Korean president and it
was put on for APEC leaders, a really intimate dinner
setting as well. It was a sort of small white
(08:20):
table in quite a big room as well. Just the
world leaders were there. So some of the other gala
dinners that we've seen had officials and media as well.
The media were there for a bit of it, but
there were no officials, no diplomats. It was just the
big names, and Chris Luxen was one of those names.
He went into this meeting with Donald Trump. World leaders
(08:43):
had already arrived at the dinner. People like Anthony Alberanizi,
Canada's Mark Karney as well were already sort of in
the room in this kind of waiting room. I suppose
with media before actually heading into the dinner, and then
two p all came through the door, Chris Luxon and
(09:03):
Donald Trump. So they came through the door and had
a few remarks to media and also had quite a
quite a funny interaction. Last one here, I thought, so
Chris Luckson obviously famously doesn't have any hair. It was
(09:24):
quite a chummy and funny interaction between those leaders as well.
But Chris Luckson had a press conference after that meeting
and after that formal dinner as well, and managed to
speak a bit about what happened. He said he wouldn't
give a blow by blow analysis, but said that it
was a good opportunity to be able to speak to
(09:46):
to Donald Trump and to a number of other world leaders.
I believe there were about seven or eight leaders at
that dinner table, so very intimate setting. He said, you
would imagine the topic of tariffs to come up, but
didn't really go into too much detail about what those
conversations look like. Also, interestingly, the Prime Minister invited Donald
(10:12):
Trump to sort of have a look at New Zealand.
Donald Trump is a keen golfer, and Chris Luckson said
that New Zealand would maybe be a good place to
practice some of that golf and to have a try
on some of our golf courses as well. We'll see
if that invitation is accepted. I believe there's been similar
invitations in terms of Australia and things like that. Donald
(10:33):
Trump obviously a very busy man. But Chris Luckson did
say at his press conference, if that were to happen,
which is a big if, just to preface, if that
were to happen, he thinks that New Zealand would be
able to cope with this sort of security detail that
would be needed for something like that. But in terms
of the actual meeting, so so significant, so major. It's
(10:57):
the first time actually that Donald Trump and Ris Luckson
have met in person. They spoke on the phone while
when Trump was confirmed as the US president, as you'd expect,
but on that day you'd also expect Trump to be
getting calls from pretty much every world leader, so there
wouldn't really be a chance to actually go into much detail.
(11:17):
And also, finally, Donald Trump said Chris l Likesen was
a friend of his. And then after a sort of
a bit of questions were thrown at Donald Trump in
that press room before the dinner, he said, I like
your man from New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I would expect that that means good things about our
trade relationship in future. But I guess we're very, very
very far down the list of people to speak to
Donald Trump about tariffs. Did Chris Luckson say anything else
about But he's keeping pretty tight lipped, isn't he.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Previously in a CEO summit, Chris Luckson did a Q
and A just before, so it was on the same
day that he met Trump. He was saying, we're pushing
for sort of rules based trading, we're pushing for free trade,
but also said, well, all of these countries, they're acting
in their own best interest. He also name dropped the
US as one of those countries that was acting in
(12:12):
its best interest, but then said essentially free trade would
be in New Zealand's best interests. So he has been
pushing in the background speaking about his views on tariffs.
His views on tariffs are well known, but what we
aren't one hundred percent clear about is how much of
that actually got through to Donald Trump at that sort
of dinner. He's saying he's not going to go into
(12:34):
those details, but also said, well, it would be obvious
that something like that would come up. I mean, this
is a major economic convention. There's a lot of these
talks taking place, and tariffs is one of the biggest
things globally that has been taking place in terms of
the APEC region and just the world in terms of
(12:56):
global trade. So you would expect that to come up,
But in terms of what was actually spoken about, it's
not very clear. The world leaders keeping relatively tight lipped,
but you would assume that maybe they might even have
to to sort of keep a good relationship with Donald
Trump as well. I mean, just getting that meeting is
very significant, so you wouldn't want to be upsetting the
(13:19):
man just after meeting him, you think.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So, what's on the agenda for today is area.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, so today we're also going to see some more
investments on the cards. There's an event that's planned on
the green economy. Now we don't have too much details
about this yet, but it could be some sort of
sustainability announcement as well. New Zealand has previously been sort
of marketing itself, shall we say, in terms of being
(13:47):
a clean and green economy, so maybe that has a
part to play in that as well. And also yesterday
there was an event at the Skyline lou that's a
big company in New Zealand and sort of trying to
get that investment and tourism as well, trying to really
(14:08):
show New Zealand as a place to visit. And I mean,
how much better of a way to do it than
in a place where a bunch of world leaders from
Asia and across the globe are in the same room together.
There's media from all over the world here covering these
events and covering what is going on. So there's a
(14:29):
number of things still taking place also, bilateral meetings with
a number of people, Chris Luxen meeting with South Korea's
President Lee as well after that sort of formal dinner
that they had as well with Donald Trump and some
other world leaders. So still a lot of economic talks,
(14:50):
meetings and business events as well here.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Ventually. The people of South Korea have forged a miracle
of economic development like you rarely see, an industrial and
technological powerhouse, and above all, a free society and enduring
democracy and a thriving civilization. And I want to congratulate you.
Very few places like it the entire world should be
(15:21):
inspired by all that you have achieved, and they study
you and they do so much to understand what you've done,
but most of them don't get it, and that's probably
good for you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Keep it this way.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Most of them don't get it. They want to get it,
but it doesn't quite work out for them the same
way it works out for you. So that's a great
tribute to you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And tell me, Sariah, I know that you've been kind
of following around Luxon in the press pack. I assume
that there are a few journalists there from New Zealand
and is it kind of the same you see other
kind of press following their respective leaders as well? Like
do you interact with one another? Do you talk to
the other journalists from different countries? What's it like behind
(16:08):
the scenes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, it's really cool. I mean, we have the media
center which is absolutely massive. It is pat I mean
you would think that there's and I'm not too great
actually with counting crowds, which hasn't been good in my
journalism career, to be honest, but you'd have to think
there are hundreds and hundreds of people in these massive
press rooms as well. They sort of sit in these
(16:31):
blocks there was people from Australia as well that we
interacted with. They actually came to an event at Asian
as well, so we kind of were like, oh, I
saw you a couple of days ago in Kuala Lumpur
and now you're here in South Korea. But yeah, there's
a lot of press packs, a lot of people, lots
(16:52):
going on as well, and also just in the backgrounds
and in the behind the scenes. A lot of cultural
performances is food trucks as well with Korean food, so
that's as well interesting trying to show that off to
the media and the Korean food, the Korean culture. There's
been a performances drumming, We've had some fried chicken from
(17:15):
a Korean food track, and in fact I was actually
interviewed by Korean State TV on whether or not I
liked the fried chicken. They were doing sort of boxes
with some of the foreign media, and it was great.
It was really good. It's very good fried chicken. So
trying to see if I can find that interview clip somewhere,
but yeah, it's really cool to see all of the
(17:37):
media here as well, a lot of American media as
you'd expect as well, traveling with the American President Donald Trump.
They're sort of also in the room as well. But yeah,
it's been a really really interesting and significant event and
one of the things that you would sort of expect,
but has been really eye opening to see just the
(17:58):
amount of security everywhere. I mean, there's security guards, there's
police as far as the eye can see the station
sort of everywhere around the city as well. There's also
flags around the city that say APEC on them. It's
very obvious that APEC is taking place. There's also been
road closures for motorcades. And the other day actually we
(18:21):
saw Trump's motorcade forty eight cars, forty eight vehicles that
were in that motorcade and also get this, a helicopter
above the motorcade as well, so massive, that was huge.
New Zealand has a motiicate as well, but forty eight
cars nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That probably doesn't have a chopper upperhead as well.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No, exactly. Well, that was the only chopper that we saw,
and everyone started filming it immediately once we heard this
sort of the chopper go up above. But yeah, so
Donald Trump has been the big one in terms of
the motorcades, of the security as well, and also media
who were covering that dinner with Trump, Luxen and some
(19:07):
other world leaders. They had to go through a number
of rounds of security as well a few batches. They
actually brought in a dog as well, like a sniffer dog,
to sniff through people's media bags as well. I mean,
these are some of the biggest world leaders in the
entire world, and they were They had dogs sniffing through
people's bags. They had scanners and sort of things that
(19:31):
you would see at an airport, so very high security
here trying to protect some of the biggest diplomats, the biggest,
most influential people.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well lucky you didn't save any of that Korean fried
chicken in your media bag or Zaria.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks so much,
it's been great.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's it for this episode of The Front Page. You
can read more about today's stories and extend sive news
coverage at enzidherld dot co dot mz. The Front Page
is produced by Jane Ye and Richard Martin, who is
also our editor. I'm Chelsea Daniels. Subscribe to The Front
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