August 6, 2026 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For all you med bastards loving the Big Show podcast
Get Up Even Closer on Instagram, YouTube, and tik tok
for dogging for.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To seven every weekday on Radioconda.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Get a feeler.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hell now you're talking mills ha ha.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I think that's the new opener right there.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, I think so that's how we do it. Yeah, yeah,
that's how we.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Do how we gain team good day.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Good daily good man, I'm gonna I was just yeah,
I'm bloody good. Actually that's good, good old good old
life there, indy stuff. Yes, I bet exercise and that
always makes you feel good, keysy, it does. Kids going good,
missus is going good. You know what they say, happy family,
(00:55):
happie mokey happy. Yeah, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you do what I do? And I'm not as
bad as I used to be. I used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I used to be really really bad.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
On everything's all cheep, the beds coming around the corner, Yeah,
where's hang on?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Where is the hang on?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
This is right annoying.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And I mean like chronically my brain would go searching
for a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So that's that is literally turning a went into a
loss isn't it like everything's great? Yes, and you're like, okay,
what the.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Fun You're like, yeah, that's yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
My sweet spot.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm back in familiar territory.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So it's like your brain doesn't like being happy, Yes, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's annoying.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Waiting for the other shoe to drop, Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The other boot, speaking of haven't seen those boots in
a while, just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I wore them this morning? Yeah, bullshit?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What when did that still happening? Does it still happen?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It happens occasionally, but nowhere near like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It because everything's always terrible to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yea, true, it's that thing of But no, I'll tell
you what it is, being more present in this moment now,
not worrying about the future and not worrying about the past,
just going, I.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm just now what a lovely day it is.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And also I think it's an aging thing, which I
don't really give a fuck. Yeah, And that's not as
negative as it sounds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's not like it.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But it's just like I don't worry about it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You also do worry about it occasionally, but nowhere near
to the extent that I used to.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I was shocking.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
That's true. That's true, even start from the side of
the show.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're worried at the start of
the show, Big Warrior.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I used to have massive anxiety doing radio in the
early days of Drive.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
But even even when we started, Yes, yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But that was for various reasons.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But it's because old Keesy wasn't, you know, pulling his weight.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Thank you. I was sitting there just pushing his buttons.
Wouldn't speak out.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah that's right. Old Keys would just sit there silently.
But I remember you remember you used to twist the
screen off the little mounting bracket there, Yes, that screen's gone.
I used to lean over and turn the computer screen around.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That was when I was in a full blind panic attack.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yes, fucking hell's amazing. I'm going to get better at
being prison because one thing I've noticed is things go
way too fucking quickly. Yeah you know what I mean.
It's like, oh, yeah, I'm excited for the piewards boom
two am steamed.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
K yeahs brothel, creeping.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Brothel, thank you, Mogi think this is on YouTube? Pugs, Yeah, sweet.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Man, absolutely deep. Yeah, and K Roads such a what's
a dark place.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's dark place, it can be, It's it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I love K I spent very little time.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's a delicious place.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So I am on a Wednesday morning.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
Then I would say seriously, when we were, me.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And Pugs are at their bar and it was the
two winners who were great, and then everyone had gone
home except for us four and there was just like
a middle aged businessman who would have been I reckon
it would have been fifty something, right, uh. And he
was just hammered singing back to back to back karaoke
songs really badly, how good I love it? And he
did free Bird. It was up there, hammered by himself,
(04:37):
just and I was just like, this is that what
affected it into me being like you know what I'm going?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, there's you because it's just us and that guy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, do you want to be.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
With that guy?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
The guy?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Yeah, yes, I wonder if he had a bag on him.
Wouldn't know, Maggie, No, I don't even know. I'm more
ask me that I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
More intrigued by how he felt when he woke up.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The business man, Yes, run of the mill. Yeah, just
another day in paradise.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Where's Where's where's the wallet? Where's the fun?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Where's the whole?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Archy Big Show? Week days from four on Radio Hurdarchy.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You know how good the Hadarky Big Show podcaster is.
You are more beg you get it. You're gonna get
around the live radio show to seven weight days on
Radio Hidarchy and I had Radio You're born nice?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Remember the ha Warchy Big Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh my god, that was the anxiety. I've never talked
to you about it, and I probably won't. The worst
anxiety dream I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh great, last when last week? And that was my fault.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That's what I got them in trouble with that reel
and it triggered the worst anxiety drew of your life.
But I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, but that I've had, I've had worse. It was
a shark, ye.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Now looking back in the seat, because you've had other
ones before, which you know, some of the favorite stories
of all time we talk about.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They were more funny for you.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You were just devestated that you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Woke up that was that was a shark of that
one that you were a feering.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Was anything related to that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
No, okay, So no.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was actually a scenario that's kind of a coude
in my life before.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I can't believe I triggered this.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And but much worse because I've never had anxiety like
I have anxiety dreams relatively often, not as much as.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They used to do.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I used to like tangle the sheets up with you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, just turned them into ropes. But this one kept
building on itself. It kept getting worse, like it started
off really bad and got worse and worse, and.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Word were would be an example of one which is
not this unnecessarily well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can tell you this one.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This one, I'll put my feet up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I had a dream, right, and in my dream I
woke up and I was devastatingly hungover, like wrecked yourself down. Yeah,
and I mean wrecked, I mean nauseous, headache, sweating, panic attack,
heart palpitations. And in my mind and the dream, I
(07:27):
was like, I meant to be doing something today.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And then I went getting a hot pot.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh fuck, I'm filming, Oh my god, I'm filming.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And it was five scenes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Of broken wood or something.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, it wasn't that specific, and and I hadn't.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Lie and I was at skilled assembly and I was naked,
and I'd.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Learned no and I mean devastatingly hungover, and I knew
I'd learned no lines, and then the dream it was, fuck,
I haven't told the boss at.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Radio that I'm filming another one, and so.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That added to it, and I went, oh, my god,
I haven't told them that I'm filming O my god.
And then in my dream I remembered that I was
also filming for the next four days after this day
with another project that I also hadn't learned any of
the lines or told Radio that I was filming them,
(08:27):
and that I was filming not only the one that
I was filming today, I was also filming that the
next day as well as this other project.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And I hadn't told any of them that I double boped,
I double bocked.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And so I was filming two different projects on the
same day, none of which I Radio, none of which
I'd learned, and Radio, which I hadn't told that I
was filming.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I was like beyond hungover. I was ill.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
With me waking up and sweaty and going, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So the bright side, nobody has hired you for anything.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, on the bright side, I wasn't any of those things.
And I've had a similar which I've told you about
a similar scenario to that, but it was.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Bad and I triggered that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
No, it was no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But like I like to think of myself as someone
who helps Jose out, you know what I mean. You
know that I like to think that I'm a guy
who wants on top for j and I'm something I
did obviously added to anxiety in your hair.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think there was a couple of other things going
on as well.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right, well, yes, Maggie had to go at me, you know,
but just on the periphery. But it was just a
fucking doozy one of those ones where you wake up
and it's with you all day.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You just can't you just can't shake it.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's just, oh god, jeez. So I just is there
where you came in here and the horror of the movie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, Actually Toddy was saying, you haven't put in
for leave next week and you do have to work.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is what I'm talking about. I've reached Tess, helping
you out again, making you feel good.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I've reached that part of my life where I don't
give a fuck you know what I mean. I'm going
on holiday, yeah, get on some sushi film.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm no, we're going to have an interview in four minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I know. That's why I've got to go now
so I can do the interview.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's a good shout I had us in the Big
Show Full or seven Weekdays Radio Hodkey, Sorry about that, Jau.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's all good, mate,
For all you med bastards loving the Big Show podcast
Get Up Even Closer on Instagram, YouTube, and tik tok
for dogging for.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To seven every weekday on Radioconda.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Get a feeler.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hell now you're talking mills ha ha.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I think that's the new opener right there.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, I think so that's how we do it. Yeah, yeah,
that's how we.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Do how we gain team good day.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Good daily good man, I'm gonna I was just yeah,
I'm bloody good. Actually that's good, good old good old
life there, indy stuff. Yes, I bet exercise and that
always makes you feel good, keysy, it does. Kids going good,
missus is going good. You know what they say, happy family,
(00:55):
happie mokey happy. Yeah, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you do what I do? And I'm not as
bad as I used to be. I used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I used to be really really bad.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
On everything's all cheep, the beds coming around the corner, Yeah,
where's hang on?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Where is the hang on?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
This is right annoying.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And I mean like chronically my brain would go searching
for a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So that's that is literally turning a went into a
loss isn't it like everything's great? Yes, and you're like, okay,
what the.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Fun You're like, yeah, that's yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
My sweet spot.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm back in familiar territory.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So it's like your brain doesn't like being happy, Yes, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's annoying.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Waiting for the other shoe to drop, Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The other boot, speaking of haven't seen those boots in
a while, just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I wore them this morning? Yeah, bullshit?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What when did that still happening? Does it still happen?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It happens occasionally, but nowhere near like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It because everything's always terrible to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yea, true, it's that thing of But no, I'll tell
you what it is, being more present in this moment now,
not worrying about the future and not worrying about the past,
just going, I.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm just now what a lovely day it is.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And also I think it's an aging thing, which I
don't really give a fuck. Yeah, And that's not as
negative as it sounds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's not like it.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But it's just like I don't worry about it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You also do worry about it occasionally, but nowhere near
to the extent that I used to.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I was shocking.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
That's true. That's true, even start from the side of
the show.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're worried at the start of
the show, Big Warrior.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I used to have massive anxiety doing radio in the
early days of Drive.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
But even even when we started, Yes, yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But that was for various reasons.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But it's because old Keesy wasn't, you know, pulling his weight.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Thank you. I was sitting there just pushing his buttons.
Wouldn't speak out.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah that's right. Old Keys would just sit there silently.
But I remember you remember you used to twist the
screen off the little mounting bracket there, Yes, that screen's gone.
I used to lean over and turn the computer screen around.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That was when I was in a full blind panic attack.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yes, fucking hell's amazing. I'm going to get better at
being prison because one thing I've noticed is things go
way too fucking quickly. Yeah you know what I mean.
It's like, oh, yeah, I'm excited for the piewards boom
two am steamed.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
K yeahs brothel, creeping.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Brothel, thank you, Mogi think this is on YouTube? Pugs, Yeah, sweet.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Man, absolutely deep. Yeah, and K Roads such a what's
a dark place.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's dark place, it can be, It's it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I love K I spent very little time.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's a delicious place.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So I am on a Wednesday morning.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
Then I would say seriously, when we were, me.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And Pugs are at their bar and it was the
two winners who were great, and then everyone had gone
home except for us four and there was just like
a middle aged businessman who would have been I reckon
it would have been fifty something, right, uh. And he
was just hammered singing back to back to back karaoke
songs really badly, how good I love it? And he
did free Bird. It was up there, hammered by himself,
(04:37):
just and I was just like, this is that what
affected it into me being like you know what I'm going?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, there's you because it's just us and that guy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, do you want to be.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
With that guy?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
The guy?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Yeah, yes, I wonder if he had a bag on him.
Wouldn't know, Maggie, No, I don't even know. I'm more
ask me that I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
More intrigued by how he felt when he woke up.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The business man, Yes, run of the mill. Yeah, just
another day in paradise.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Where's Where's where's the wallet? Where's the fun?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Where's the whole?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Archy Big Show? Week days from four on Radio Hurdarchy.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You know how good the Hadarky Big Show podcaster is.
You are more beg you get it. You're gonna get
around the live radio show to seven weight days on
Radio Hidarchy and I had Radio You're born nice?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Remember the ha Warchy Big Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh my god, that was the anxiety. I've never talked
to you about it, and I probably won't. The worst
anxiety dream I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh great, last when last week? And that was my fault.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That's what I got them in trouble with that reel
and it triggered the worst anxiety drew of your life.
But I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, but that I've had, I've had worse. It was
a shark, ye.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Now looking back in the seat, because you've had other
ones before, which you know, some of the favorite stories
of all time we talk about.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They were more funny for you.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You were just devestated that you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Woke up that was that was a shark of that
one that you were a feering.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Was anything related to that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
No, okay, So no.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was actually a scenario that's kind of a coude
in my life before.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I can't believe I triggered this.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And but much worse because I've never had anxiety like
I have anxiety dreams relatively often, not as much as.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They used to do.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I used to like tangle the sheets up with you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, just turned them into ropes. But this one kept
building on itself. It kept getting worse, like it started
off really bad and got worse and worse, and.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Word were would be an example of one which is
not this unnecessarily well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can tell you this one.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This one, I'll put my feet up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I had a dream, right, and in my dream I
woke up and I was devastatingly hungover, like wrecked yourself down. Yeah,
and I mean wrecked, I mean nauseous, headache, sweating, panic attack,
heart palpitations. And in my mind and the dream, I
(07:27):
was like, I meant to be doing something today.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And then I went getting a hot pot.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh fuck, I'm filming, Oh my god, I'm filming.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And it was five scenes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Of broken wood or something.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, it wasn't that specific, and and I hadn't.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Lie and I was at skilled assembly and I was naked,
and I'd.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Learned no and I mean devastatingly hungover, and I knew
I'd learned no lines, and then the dream it was, fuck,
I haven't told the boss at.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Radio that I'm filming another one, and so.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That added to it, and I went, oh, my god,
I haven't told them that I'm filming O my god.
And then in my dream I remembered that I was
also filming for the next four days after this day
with another project that I also hadn't learned any of
the lines or told Radio that I was filming them,
(08:27):
and that I was filming not only the one that
I was filming today, I was also filming that the
next day as well as this other project.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And I hadn't told any of them that I double boped,
I double bocked.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And so I was filming two different projects on the
same day, none of which I Radio, none of which
I'd learned, and Radio, which I hadn't told that I
was filming.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I was like beyond hungover. I was ill.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
With me waking up and sweaty and going, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So the bright side, nobody has hired you for anything.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, on the bright side, I wasn't any of those things.
And I've had a similar which I've told you about
a similar scenario to that, but it was.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Bad and I triggered that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
No, it was no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But like I like to think of myself as someone
who helps Jose out, you know what I mean. You
know that I like to think that I'm a guy
who wants on top for j and I'm something I
did obviously added to anxiety in your hair.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think there was a couple of other things going
on as well.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right, well, yes, Maggie had to go at me, you know,
but just on the periphery. But it was just a
fucking doozy one of those ones where you wake up
and it's with you all day.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You just can't you just can't shake it.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's just, oh god, jeez. So I just is there
where you came in here and the horror of the movie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, Actually Toddy was saying, you haven't put in
for leave next week and you do have to work.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is what I'm talking about. I've reached Tess, helping
you out again, making you feel good.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I've reached that part of my life where I don't
give a fuck you know what I mean. I'm going
on holiday, yeah, get on some sushi film.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm no, we're going to have an interview in four minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I know. That's why I've got to go now
so I can do the interview.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's a good shout I had us in the Big
Show Full or seven Weekdays Radio Hodkey, Sorry about that, Jau.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's all good, mate,
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Dateline NBC
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