March 7, 2026 • 40 mins
You may have heard the suggestion that you should train for your body type, that your workout routine should depend on whether you have an ecto, meso, or endomorph body.
Is it true? Do different body types have different exercise needs?
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participate and join us in the conversation. On eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty welcome to text as well of
course on nine two nine two. And look, you may
have heard the suggestion, you know that you should train
for your body type or should you or the question
so maybe you work out or do workouts depend on
whether you're I mean, there's a body types roughly endo
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ecto or mesomorph and I'm not sure that that's I'm
not sure that that's just the that might be just
the recollection I have of different body types probably goes
a bit broader than that. But you know, are you're
born into a particular body type, are there different forms
of exercise that suit or would suit you better, and
inform maybe how you should train. We want to know
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what you think as well. But also we're going to
have a chat about that and take your calls and
joining me to discuss that among other things. Of course,
he is founder and coach at Body Talk and his
name is Alex Flint and he's with me. Now get
a Alex, how are you.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Going to I'm very good, Thank you, Thanks for him you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, that's good. I mean you are down the line
of course, because you indicate you might have a little
bit of a lurgie. So it's good to see you
and hear your sounding not so bad.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Actually, yeah, no, not too bad.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I've been reinforced a number of times by my wife
telling me that she assures me it's only man flu,
and then I just need to harden up a little
bit safe.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, okay, one eighty ten eighty is man flew a thing. See,
I've got a theory about that before we get into it.
Is that and this is completely just a reckon. But
if you go back to caveman times. Men if they
were doing the hunting, if that's the way it is,
you had to be at peak form. So if you
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got a little bit of a lurgie, you crashed and
you got over it, you went and rested up so
you could get back to the hunting the wooly mammoth
as soon as possible. Whereas women didn't have the option
because they had to keep the home fires burning and
they just had to soldier on, which reminds me of
the ad I'm not going to sing that, but anyway,
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you don't have to comment on that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I absolutely agree.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I think just like Leam Wilson's formula one cars have
got to be finely tuned, that's the same with us.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's right exactly we get. That's where shuld get an
anthropologist on sometime to talk about some of the things.
It's an interesting thing because we are a product of
our past and our history and our evolution. I mean,
the reason we're here is because you know, we didn't
our ancestors didn't get you know, slaughtered in whatever conflict
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or you know, fight or whatever. You know, we've survived
different diseases. You know, that's evolution.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Isn't it absolutely?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Hey, what what's the thing as body types? I've you know,
talk about mesomorph and endomorphin ectomorph and people say, I'm
a little bit meso endo or are they actually a thing?
Because because looking around the waterfront on a nice sunny
day and Tomky Drive, there's a lot of mesomorphs with
their heads with their shirts off. But I mean there
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is a fair bit of vanity rolling around the waterfront
and Tommackee anyway, But is it a thing?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, So just probably to back up for anyone that's
I'm sure we've probably all heard of some type of
body type categorization. But so somatotyping came around in about
the nineteen forties and it was where they tried to,
I guess, just describe what different bodies in general look like.
And they came up with three different somatotypes. So there
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was an ectomorph, which, if you think about probably there
this way. I mean, I think back to being described
to me in pe class that was your classic basketball
at all, lean, long limbs, pretty skinny and not a
lot of body fat. And then we had mesomorphs, which
were more like our rugby players or weightlifters and that
type thing, you know, more square and including what they
look like in their face, and they had a lot
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more muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And then we had the endomorphs.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Who were rounder, heavier, thicker set I guess you say,
and probably the thing that we all associate that with
these days is being more overweight. Those are what the
three originally came from. Largely it's been quite I wouldn't
say discredited.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Is it a crude sort of Is it a crude
categorization that we shouldn't really put too much weight on.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, so rather than being prescriptive of what we should
and shouldn't do, it's more a descriptive type of categorization
of what bodies look like. But largely there's very few people,
you know, that fall into one one category, and there's
a lot of people that will argue that there's a
lot of reasons why that doesn't even because really have
any you know, any any weight at all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Because look, because there are people who I mean, obviously
people have certain physical attributes and we're not all born
equal because otherwise, you know, we'd all be the fastest
man or woman in the world and would always also
be the best. You know, there wouldn't there would be
there be millions of Sam Ruth's.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And the thing that always comes to mind for me,
I don't know why this name pops up, but it's
hard to imagine sunny Bill Williams not being looking like
he just needs to look at a weight and he's
going to be ripped.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I actually have some really good examples of that, So
just through being on match Fit for those number of
years and just talking to a lot of the Polynesian boys.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So I have a really memorable story that I had with.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
A Ronnie Clark in the series, and he was saying,
how when they I think it was Verne Cotter, I
think that name rings a Bill was involved in their
strength and conditioning and when they sort of started first
putting them on fairly strict weight training regimes, him and
a lot of the other PACIFICA boys were just absolutely
you know, crushing it in the gym, and where whereas
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the Meka milder you'd say, European fellas were just really
struggling to you know, to keep up with what they
where they could get to. And in the finish Ronnie
said they were asking the coach whether they should be
doing it because they were just so far ahead of
the others. So there's definitely there's definitely a case of
you know, genetically we are predisposed to be good at
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some things and not so good at others, and that
goes obviously far more than physical. But probably the conversation
we're having today, we need to draw a line between
sports performance and health and fitness. I guess you'd say,
because there's no doubt that you know, if you look
at the person that's winning the marathon, or you know,
is standing on stage winning a weightlifting competition or sign
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and so forth, they've definitely got a very specific body
type which allows them to rise to the top of
their sports. You know, just because genetically you have a
certain body type doesn't award you the gold medal or
the heck of a lot of hard work and intelligence
and intellect and all sorts of other things going to it.
But it is definitely the case that, yeah, your body
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type will determine from a sport perspective what you're good at,
and potentially is the pastime what you might enjoy more
just purely because your body is more suited to it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, yeah, that is because there are some people who
will just love running and they just naturally sort of
take to it. I mean, we have Greg Pain who's
been on our show, who you know, is a big
defender of running because a lot of easas a lot
of the time, it's the way we're doing it. But
there are some people who would just love that form
of exercise where the whereas there are other people who prefer,
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you know, the sort of more the gym, sort of
weights and all that sort of thing as a way
of keeping fit. Is that avoidable? I mean, should you
just follow what seems to fit or what?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah? Well, I mean when it comes to health and fitness,
the very most important thing that we know is that
if you enjoy what you do.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You're far more likely to stick to it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And in today's day and age, what we need is
consistency and exercise because we know it's just such an
eleixa long term for good health. You know, there's very
few medicines out there where the side effects are all good.
The side effects are like better mood, better sleep, stronger bones,
you know, potentially a longer life. So if you find
activities that you enjoy, then of course they're the ones
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that you want to make up the bulk of your time. However,
having said that, there is also the I guess, the
sports science side of it, which would say, you know,
me as a as a as a personal trainer, I
would say, well, let's assess you and see where your
strengths and weaknesses are. And if things are already strong,
then maybe that's an area that we don't put too
much time into, unless, of course you enjoy it, that is,
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but you know, we want to be building up the
areas which are our weaknesses, which overall are going to
make us better as a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I guess yeah, because I had a friend who is,
you know, wanted to lose a bit of weight, and
he saw a nutritionist and I'm not sure how he
saw about that, but they actually said, look, you know,
your major thing is you're actually a naturally muscular sort
of guy. And the recommendation was just get what you
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was sorting out the diet and truckloads of walk. You know,
truckloads are walking at a pace at a certain you know,
that certain pace where you are you can hold a conversation,
but you know, just short sentences sort of thing. And
the emphasis was like, you know, you're naturally muscular, you
don't need to worry about this. I'm not sure if
that was the right advice. Of course we could dig
into that, but are you know, are there some people
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who don't really need to worry about the sort of
weights resistance training because they're just awesome?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
There are frongs the donass. Yeah, well it's one of those.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Again, it depends if I would say if you're over forty, definitely,
if you're over fifty, you need to be doing some
form of resistance training because regardless of how much you
had in your youth, it is dropping away. It'll drop
it somewhere between five to eight percent per decade. We
know now, you know, the science is absolutely unequivocal that
for women that are going through menopause and on the
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other side of it, it is super important that they
are loading their bones and challenging their muscles. Otherwise that
you know, it really starts to drop away, and with
that our longevity.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And our health span is really affected.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So strength training when we're younger, I think for a
lot of people who is probably optional. Maybe if it's
going to make you better at your sport or you
really enjoy it, then yep, you could you could choose
to do it, but as we get older, it's really
it's tenants more necessity than anything else.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
What that looks like can be very varied, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So someone who's got a big background in it might
only need to do a very small amount of it.
Someone who's brand new to it it might be something
that they need to really focus on. So again, it's
really down to the individual more so than it is
the body type.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Have you I mean, have you have you dabbled in
focusing on certain types of exercise? I don't mean that
at the expense of another, but I do mean at
the expense of another. Say, you know you wanted to
get into running, Say and does Alex Flint go full
on into the running and sort of go, I haven't
done a press up in a while. Have you dabbled
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in different types of exercise where and notice the effect
that's out on you?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, it's probably that probably described my whole lived him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I actually I did have an inkling of the answer
to that question, but I wanted to flesh it out
a bit more. I mean, you know you have fads.
I've been a bit like that myself, But yeah, you've
I remember you came into the studio and I was like,
where's Alex Gon He's you know, he looks like this
guy looks like a triathlete.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So, and that's another really good example.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I trained up for the Gold Coast Marathon last year,
and just because of my background in strength training, that's
kind of what I've always done. I thought, I'm just
going to park it and I'm just going to throw
myself into the deep end and just see what where
my physiology goes if I just become a runner and
nothing else. And I probably suffered from a few little
injuries that I didn't need to have if i'd kept
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doing some strength training, such a just some little aches
and pains in my knees and hips, you know, which
I think were mostly surrounding probably biomechanics and core strength.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And as you're not eighteen years old as well, probably
absolutely okay, carry on, yep.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And then the other side of it as well is
that I think that when you throw yourself into something,
it's just impossible for you to hold all those other
elements up. So when I did that at the end
of my marathon training, which I did for about sixteen weeks,
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so I jumped back on our body fat scanners to
see where it was, and I was very lean.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Was I was the lightest I've been for a very
very long time.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But I'd lost about four kilograms and muscle, so it
wasn't all body fat.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It doesn't sound that bad as four that's I mean,
that's a chunk of muscle. But you lean, it's not
like you not like you were all sinew.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
No, but that's probably you know, that's probably close to
eighteen months worth of work to put that back on.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, here's the question, Alex Flint might want to put
it back on. But would it have mattered if you didn't.
I mean, could you have just maintained yourself at that
by doing a few lightweights?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yes? Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Like I say, it's the bare minimum to keep your
muscle mass is not very high. And to be fair,
it's probably one of those things because of you know,
strength trained for a long period time, I've probably got
a bit of excess that I could do without anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So yeah, that's that excess muscle. That's almost like saying
excess awesomeness?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That is it? You with your shirt off wandering around topic.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Definitely not me.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But yeah, I think you know, it really comes down.
It comes down to balance. The other really interesting part
of this, I think is when it comes to weight loss.
So you know that we can look at this from
a what activities are you good at and what could
you enjoy and what are the ones that you really
need to do, whether it's you know, walking or lifting
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weights or running or whatever. But the one that we
really I think most people hone in on is everyone's
got that mate that just seems to be.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Able to eat whatever they want and they never put
on any weight.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh those ones. God, they're irritating, aren't they. And you
get somebody who works their butt off, they have a
muffin the next thing, they're five kilos.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So you know, so going back would say probably if
someone asked you that question, you would say they're probably
a thicker sette person to start with. More of that
endomorphic style shape is what you would expect. There is
some what we call obesity genes out there. So one
of the ones, the most common, is the FTO gene,
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which is linked if you have that gene, you do
have a higher obesity risk.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And we know that that runs in families.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But when we look a bit deeper, the two things
that make up the majority of why people are overweight.
One is locality and sort of their ethnic background, and
the other one is their socioeconomic background. So those are
the two things that really have the biggest bearing on weight.
If you have the obesity gene, Interestingly, it's not really
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your metabolism which is slower. There may be some impact
on fat burning, but largely what it is it is
to do with society and hunger. So those that have
obesity genes tend to have less satiety, more hunger and
food rewards.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Society being feeling satisfied after you've had a snack rather
than being ravenous for more, is it?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's you know, if we look
at what GLP one weight loss struggs do, that's a
lot of a lot of treating.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Is that that's suppressing the food noise?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I'm sorry I interrupted, Then I jumped in too quick.
So I mean out of their metabolism types as opposed
to you know, we've got body types. Is it more
of a case that people have as you've said, it's
a metabolism type and also to do with the sotiety
and the what's the other one you talked about, society
versus hunger hunger signals.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, yeah, So so in terms of metabolism types, it's
really really interesting when we look across the lifespan. It's
not until we're hitting our sixties where we see dramatic
slowdowns in our metabolic rate. So from person to person
we will have, you know, definitely have some differences in
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metabolic rate, which is how much energy we burn per day.
Now most of that needs to be measured at rest.
So you and I are sitting in chairs at the moment,
so we're not burning a lot of energy as opposed
to if we're in out running or cycling and so forth.
So that metabolic burn at rest is something which there
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is a bit of a variation between people, but it's
far less than what we actually thought originally. So we
used to say that for every kilogram of muscle that
you could put on, that was about an extra hat
that was about an extra one hundred calories of burn,
of metabolic burn that you would get per day. So
ideally if you could put you know, if you could
lose ten kilos of body fat and put on ten
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kilos of muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
The outcome would be you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Get stuck under the pancakes.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So that's sort of true because that's
fascinating because.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There's also that problem that when people start a new
exercise habit regard, they think they've earned that muffin and
that's why they wonder why they haven't lost any weight,
because they've actually subconsciously compensating. So they go, well, I
went for a run today, I did such and such,
and so they don't think too much about what they eat,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
No, no, and it's far easy to eat it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You know, you can take forty minutes to burn off
five hundred calories and you to eat it back in two.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Just to finish off that last story, so with the muscle,
we now know that it's only about it's less than
ten calories per kilo, so we don't actually put on
all this muscle and then have this much stronger a
metabolic rate.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So really the thing that influences our metabolic rate the
most is our overall health and our overall level of
movement per day. So if you're someone who you know
he's up and about on your feet, or you're doing
a lot of exercise, you're going to have a high
metabolism that someone that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Gosh, it is a complex beast, isn't it? The human
physiology and metabolism. We'd love your cause on this. By
the way, we're with Alex Flint. He's from He's a
founder and coach at Body Talk. By the way, he also,
I mean, he's would be fair to say your specialty
is maybe getting older people who've had the glory days
and have let themselves go, but and you know, rebuilding
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your fitness and turning you into something you've never imagined
you could be if you're maybe beyond your twenties. Shall
we say, how would I describe your gag? Actually, Body Talk,
I mean, because you do work with people who are
sort of, you know, slightly older than the sort of
youthful athlete, aren't they, and about transforming them into their
either that what their glory days could have been or
might be.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, I think probably the easiest way to describe what
we do is we prepare for the second half of
your life.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So we look at the one.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, so we look at you know, making sure that
you can live life on your terms as you get
a bit older, so that you know, the average age
of something that comes to my gym is actually in
their fifties now, so that's still climbing. We have people
right through in their seventies that are learning to lift
weights and getting back into exercise, you know, right through
the ex professional sports people, all blacks and so on,
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and it's really just about you know, maybe your so
called glory days are over, but there's a lot of
life to live and the biggest thing is that your
health span is something that we can really affect through
not you know, not crazy amounts of exercise and not
absolutely super strict diets, but just by doing the right
thing ninety percent of the time and being consistent, you
can really have a big impact on your wellness.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Right, if you've got any questions for Alex, we started
the conversation talking about whether we're affected by different body
types and different exercise needs, but actually, if you've got
any questions or observations on how you've found the sort
of exercise that suits you, and you know, did your
body type or your the way you perceived your body type,
did that affect you know, the way you the choices
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you're able when it made, when it came to comes
to sport. Give us a call. I eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty text it's twenty seven and a half
past four News Talks. He'd be yes News Talks, he'd
be by the way. I can quiz Alex till the
cows come home about my own fitness, but I don't
want to do that just on on the radio all
the time. So you can give us a call. I
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as Josh has
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Josh Today.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Good afternoon. Just yeah, interesting topic for myself. I'm probably
the opposite to the majority of people in the space.
I'm always trying to put weight on. Yeah, my main
question is just kind of regarding as is like you're
just your body tip type. Maybe is a point where
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you need to accept it, and like say, from my example,
I'm going to the gym, I'm trying to put muscle on,
I'm trying to pop weight on. I'm very active person
and I am just scanny as a rake healthy. If
I try and eat more, I end up feeling slow
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and lazy. And it's just so my question basically, as
some people just need to be scanning and like, am
I better off just to be scanny than try and
put this muscle on just just so I feel like
I love better?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I actually you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Or yeah, I mean yeah. Is it just a stake
that you're you're just one of those skinny guys Alex, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It is definitely a case, Josh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think probably there's a lot of people listing that
have loved to be in your shoes. But I definitely,
you know, I understand where you're coming from in terms of,
you know, you put a lot of effort in and
try best to put weight on. It definitely is the
case that we have a difference in potential for muscle game.
So it is somewhat tied a little bit to the
amount of typing. If you know, you're naturally a very
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lean person, you do tend to have higher activity levels overall,
which can sometimes you know, be meaning that if you're
trying to put some muscle on, you've almost got to
be one of these people that's trying to do less
outside of the gym. So you go and do your
gym sessions, and you do your strength training, and then
you try and make that the majority of your physical activity.
Just so that you're minimizing your overall metabolic burn. And then,
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like you say, the other side is literally how much
food can you get in without making yourself feel sick?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Things like genetics.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
We have different types of muscle fibers, so you know,
you've probably all heard of the difference between fast and
slow twitching muscle fibers. That's a bit of a simplification,
but often when you're quite thin, you've got quite a
lot of the slower twitch fibers, which they can absolutely
solidify and get bigger hypertrhe as we call it, gain
in size, but it's a much slower process. How long
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have you been at the gym sort of trying to
put a bit of weight on that?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Probably about such smile. Recently I heard a crash on
my motorbikes just I had a week off, mate, but
bruise webs, so it's not just an excuse cut.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are you getting stronger, Josh.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, I feel like I feel yeah, definitely feel stronger
in the core. But it's just yeah, it's just I'll
just I guess what I'm saying is I've tried to
put on my entire life and I stressed myself out
on it, and I've kind of got to the conclusion
now and after what I was just said earlier, maybe
I'm just in the wrong industry. Maybe body types and
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the work you choose in your life are actually quite
important because I'm in a very physically demanding industry where
I can't I can't get at risks, you know what
I mean. So I've gone to the gym and I'm
working hard. Maybe I need to should have chose a
different career.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Actually, I think the question is is it do you
do you want to put muscle on because you want
to look different in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying I want to feel good about myself.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
You sound like you're pretty awesome if you're slimmon you're strong.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But it's just I don't know. I thought it's females
always talking about being overweight a lot, you know, males
on the other side of it. I think it's males
being underweight.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It was just.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
It tears as challenges growing up, like probably getting teased
to being large.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But yeah, yeah, I hear.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You, mate. I mean, look at your body type. You
know it's it's it's the stigma and everything. I mean,
any words, I mean I sort of think Josh needs
to go easy on himself.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, I think it's the same, Josha.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I mean, my personal take on this is I probably
was a very similar to myself growing up, you know,
as I was obsessed with the fact that I felt
like I was quite thin, and you know, I just
threw myself into it with everything that I possibly could,
only to get to the other end and think really
doesn't matter that much as long as you're happy and healthy.
But there's I absolutely here, Josh, what you're saying about.
(26:11):
You know, we live in a world where stigma and
body types and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's just such in the limelight.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But it's really I guess it's you know, you've got
to go after what makes you happy and knowing that, Ye,
there's some people that it's just going to be very
easy for them to look a certain way.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah. The one thing I would say on that is, you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Know, we look at the plethora of social media and
the majority of those photos of influencers, it's a split
second photo where they look the way they do. You know,
they're not the majority of them are not walking around
looking like that as well, So you know, the stereotypes
out there are just so unforgiving.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And actually, Josh, one thing, one thing question's worth asking.
Have you have you just trained yourself or is have
you actually engaged with a personal trainer or someone.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I have got a personal trainer on board just to
get me going. Just how to you know, what the
technique and what not for a lost thing. But yeah,
so yeah, I relearned. So there wasn't just a word.
And I guess it's a realization for me that I
should use my brains now thet's say, brain's not brawn. Mate,
(27:17):
I have a lot of people have one or the other. Mate.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know what, if you're keeping fit and strong, you know,
I give yourself a break as well, I think you know,
and you know that's all I can say.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But yeah, absolutely, I just remember, sorry, just just remember
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's a multi year you know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Strength training is a very long slow burn talking years
to really see big changes in most people anyway, So
six months relatively early days.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, hey, just quickly that I've got a few
texts on this before we go to Ken and it
says I'm not sure if this is a brag or
a fact check text here it says, I'm in my
sixties and swim forty lengths twice twice a week and
about five thousand steps a day. Is that enough of me?
Thought he was going, Hey, I'm in my sexties doing others,
(28:05):
But I mean, is that enough swimming that type of exercise,
which is like load bearing in a way.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, it's absolutely great for cutting vascular side of things,
very good for the mobility somewhat. We know that it's
superior when it comes to respiratory so the breathing side
of it for swimming is great. Topping that up with
some walking every day really fantastic. There is no, unfortunately,
not a lot of load bearing work in there, so
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it just needs something which is going to stress bone
and muscle and require it to stay.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Resilient in view age.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
So again, could literally be fifteen to twenty minutes of
body weight stuff at home or on the side of
the pool. You know, you could stack it with what
you're already doing, but just some sort of resistance training
is probably what's missing there.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But overall that sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I've got a quick question actually on the cycling thing,
because some people when you cycle, that does and I've
got onto that myself actually, but there's a certain level
of load which just the action of cycling up hel
which is like, you know, it's high rep obviously, but
it sort of feels like it's laid bearing, is it
or is it non count.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know, that's actually a really good question. I can't
truthfully give an answer to that without looking that up.
I'm not sure about that, you know, because if you
think about that, it would be very similar to a
loaded lead press machine, which we know does give a
stimulus to bone and muscle. And it's definitely a case
if we look at cyclists, they've got well developed legs,
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whether they are in the gym or not. So from
a muscle perspective. Absolutely for females, if we're looking at bone,
bone stress, I would have to come.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Back on that one.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, it's definitely question on a bike because yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, look we've got to take another break. We've got
some cause more call calls to get into, and we're
with Alex Blint. He's the founder and coach Body Talk.
You have any questions about you know, you're frustrated by
your body type or something you need to do differently
or you know, I mean part of it is maybe
accepting that we're all a little bit different as well.
Hundred twenty to five news talks that be whether Tim Beverage,
(30:08):
my guest for the health Huber is Alex Flinty's founder
and coach at body Talk, and you know, just about
exercise with your diet type. And we're taking your calls,
and we've got lots of calls lined up, So nothing
from me. Let's go to Ken. Hello.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Well good, I just point out I'm driving my car,
so it might drop in and out.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Okay, But my question is.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
What is the real effect of the demon drinking? You know,
beer and wine? I mean, are these really things that
change your weight?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, booze weight, yes, Alex go, there we go.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, great question, great question.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Succinctly yes, it does as largely because of the behavior
that's surrounding it. So if we don't number one, if
we're not able to use the alcohol as the energy
that we're drinking at the time, it will be stored
as body fat, so it's not something which will be
preferentially used for energy later on. So if you're while
you're drinking, if you're not outrunning that you know that
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that's going.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
To be stored as body fat.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
The second thing we know about it is because it's
a very high energy source and it's not a normal substrate,
like it's not a protein, it's not a carbohydrate or
a fat, our body has trouble processing it. So if
we are drinking regularly, our liver is somewhat compromised, and
our liver is our fat burning organ So those two
(31:31):
things together can create a bit of a metabolic imbalance
when it comes to trying to lose weight.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
The other thing, the social side of it.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
We know that it's actually what alcohol is associated with,
so it's the other behaviors. So we're far more likely
to snack. Our food choices surrounding alcohol largely tend to
be more relaxed, and we tend to overeat more easily
when we are drinking.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
So there's a scientific side of it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yep, it does have some impact, but there's also the
social side of it. Generally speaking, moderate drinking which is
considered most kiwizy sounds like, so low but less than
somewhere between four zero to four drinks per week. We
don't see too much issue with people trying to lose
weight over that it can become an issue. And I
(32:16):
think again it does matter with age, so as we
get older, alcohol becomes more of a metabolic blocker.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, hey, thanks for your cor kin. Hopefully that answers
your question. Thank you, and let's go to Christine.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Hello, Hello, hi, hi, hi Thai. I'm cooler and I
listen to your radio station. Question is I'm seventy three.
Four years ago, I had a heart problem, stop smoking,
(32:49):
change my diet from dairy to plant food, and I
regally I do taie cheese. I go to the gym
only once week and I do weight lifting and you know,
(33:11):
stretches and all that, and then Wednesday I do it's
a waka armor, which I enjoy surry because it just
builds my muscles and it makes me feel good. The
only problem is I am having trouble trying to tone
(33:32):
my bealt area. I'm not that much over weight, but
still having problems.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay, just.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
My back off and yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
First of all, Christine, I want to say that you're fantastic.
That is absolutely amazing that you've turned it around. That
from having a heart problem to stop smoking to tai
chi and wakama in the gym. That's good on you.
That's absolutely fantastic. So I think you know you're absolutely
on the right track. Probably the one thing with waka
arma is it does what does require. It's a type
(34:11):
of like so wak armas the traditional Mali canoes. So
got paddles in teams, all right, yeah, yeah, So the
biggest thing with that is it does require a lot
of core strength, Christine. So the movement of your body
when you're when you're in the waka means that you
are putting a lot of stress on your back. So
(34:32):
potentially when you go to the gym, if you could
maybe talk to the gym instructor there and see if
they could help you with a few more core exercises.
The biggest ones are, you know, our simple planks and
some different bits and pieces. But for me to be
able to give you the right exercise, I'd really need
to be able to sort of see you in person.
So maybe when you go to the gym, if if
(34:53):
you've have you got a fitness instructor there that might
be able.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
To help you.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
I live up in the sun north right out on
the peninsula, and the closest gym would be oh, it's
about half an hour three quarter serve an hour dry
for it or for me to go.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, right, Christine, I would absolutely if you would like,
I'm more than happy to give you some help. Would
just probably have to do it outside of the of today,
but I could very easily help you out with a
couple of core exercises that have probably sort out exactly
what you need and keep you going because I think
what you're doing is absolutely fantastic. You just need to
get in contact with me. Have you seen my website
(35:39):
body talk dot co dot m Z. You can just
contact me there and I'm more than happy to help
you out.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, Okay, body talk as in t O r q
U E. By the way, as in talk as an
energy body talk Okay, Alex Flint. So check him out
and drop them a note and I'll remember talking to you.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, please make sure you do, Christine. I'd love to
help you out.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Good stuff. Hey, just quickly before we go to the break.
When you resistance, how much is enough? As people get
a little bit older and it's like, well, you need
to throw some resistance training. And I'm probably asking for
myself because I'm right out to the barking and I've
got a kettlebell I sling around sometimes with a few
goblet squats and kettle bell swings, but that's about it.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, fifteen minutes twice a week, just all you really
need to do is be working on progressive overloads. So
you're just taking your body. Depending on the exercise that
you're doing, you're taking your body to the point where
those those rips, you know, whether you're doing push ups
or get ale bet swings or squats, they're starting to
get pretty difficult and you need to take a rest.
So if you're doing you know, sort of five or
(36:41):
so exercises two to three sets twice a week, that's
all you need, which you can easily cut out under
twenty minutes if.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You're efficient with your time, so you don't need a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And I think that's probably that's a good question, Tim,
because the fitness industry is one of these things where
everything becomes extreme. You know, we need this much Zone
two and we need this much cardiovascular excise and so
much weight training. But the raality is most of us
are very time pause. So just the bare minimum for
most of us is all we need. Because you know,
you look across the population and largely the biggest issue
(37:12):
is we're just inactive. Four minutes of exercise today we
know has dramatic effects in our lifespan. So if you
can find fifteen to twenty minutes every other day and
you know, combine a bit of cardio and weights, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, everything's got what I call the would you like fries?
With that? And I don't mean to have from my diet,
but it's like, you know, you pick up a new habit.
It's like even if you pick up golf with you know,
we've you've got the latest, you know, the latest clubs,
you've got the latest sort of thing to help your
swing and all that sort of thing. If you're doing cycling,
you get the latest thing to help you get a
bit more power in your pedalers. There's always something would
you like fries?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
With that?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
As opposed to just keep moving and see where you go.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
That's it's it's the boring one, but it's it's the reality.
You know, that's just what we need. We need to
all be out moving. And the fitter you get, and
we're just talking about this off here, the more energy
you have and overall, the better your mood is.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And that's a real winner.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay, we'll be back. We've got well squeeze in one
more call. I think after this gym's way. I think
it's nine minutes to five. Yes, news talks there be
with Alex Flint from Body Talk, and time for one
last quick call Jim. We've got about a minute and
a half.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Okay. I'm ninety two and I walk three to four
CA's every six days a week. I'm not overweight, and
I drink almost nothing but good stuff. What would you
recommend that I should be doing to be able to
carry on my good life?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Jim, I would say, keep doing exactly what you're doing
at the age of ninety two. You're doing a lot
of things right to be still going. We know that
past the age of eighty largely a lot of our
lifestyle choices and practices are what keeps longevity going. So
the fact that you're up, you're active, you clearly must
if you're a decent weight, you clearly must be looking
(38:59):
after what you eat. So there's not a whole lot
that really at ninety two that I should be telling
you should do more.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Perhaps you know very the walks you go on, Try
and do some hillwalks.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
One day and some flat walks the other it's probably
something that you're already thinking about. The biggest thing that
will probably have a really good impact on you is
doing some balance work. So if you could find some way,
whether you look at something like some short yoga or
Thai cheese sole practices or just some simple balance activities,
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because as we as, that's one of the biggest things
that causes to fall over and get in all sorts.
So maybe including some balance work, but over all, Jim, yeah,
crops to you.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think you're having fantastic good work.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Jim. Hey, thanks for sorry, we didn't leave much time
to explore that further with you.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Jim.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Actually I see arch Jelly who is now one hundred
and three. He walking and he does a few light
hand weights and things like that. But keep moving, I guess. Actually,
there was one quick text I'll read to you, Alex,
which is just quite a useful thing for other people
who are listening, and that's from Amy. She just said
that there's a video that she saw of a ninety
two year old and that one of the lessons is
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she'd wish she'd bought a built more strength in her
twenties and and sorries in her fifties and sixties and
prepared her body what she called its betrayal in her
seventies and eighties, which you know, caution retail, I guess
get movement.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Good a boss. Yeah, Strength is never a weakness.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, mat Hey, good to see Alex. Look forward to
next time.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Great, Thanks again, Tim, Cheers.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Cheers And if you want to check track down Alex's
body talk and just google that and you'll find him.
We're back with the Smart Money's Next.
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Against Wet and welcome back to the Weekend Collective. We've
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Clint Smith, but if you want to catch them, I
think it's also on the New Zealand Herald website the
interview with Helen and after the show you can go
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and iHeartRadio if you like as well. So thanks for
all your feedback. But right now it's time for the
Health Hub and as you know, we want you to
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participate and join us in the conversation. On eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty welcome to text as well of
course on nine two nine two. And look, you may
have heard the suggestion, you know that you should train
for your body type or should you or the question
so maybe you work out or do workouts depend on
whether you're I mean, there's a body types roughly endo
(01:22):
ecto or mesomorph and I'm not sure that that's I'm
not sure that that's just the that might be just
the recollection I have of different body types probably goes
a bit broader than that. But you know, are you're
born into a particular body type, are there different forms
of exercise that suit or would suit you better, and
inform maybe how you should train. We want to know
(01:44):
what you think as well. But also we're going to
have a chat about that and take your calls and
joining me to discuss that among other things. Of course,
he is founder and coach at Body Talk and his
name is Alex Flint and he's with me. Now get
a Alex, how are you.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Going to I'm very good, Thank you, Thanks for him you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, that's good. I mean you are down the line
of course, because you indicate you might have a little
bit of a lurgie. So it's good to see you
and hear your sounding not so bad.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Actually, yeah, no, not too bad.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I've been reinforced a number of times by my wife
telling me that she assures me it's only man flu,
and then I just need to harden up a little
bit safe.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, okay, one eighty ten eighty is man flew a thing. See,
I've got a theory about that before we get into it.
Is that and this is completely just a reckon. But
if you go back to caveman times. Men if they
were doing the hunting, if that's the way it is,
you had to be at peak form. So if you
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got a little bit of a lurgie, you crashed and
you got over it, you went and rested up so
you could get back to the hunting the wooly mammoth
as soon as possible. Whereas women didn't have the option
because they had to keep the home fires burning and
they just had to soldier on, which reminds me of
the ad I'm not going to sing that, but anyway,
(03:00):
you don't have to comment on that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I absolutely agree.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I think just like Leam Wilson's formula one cars have
got to be finely tuned, that's the same with us.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's right exactly we get. That's where shuld get an
anthropologist on sometime to talk about some of the things.
It's an interesting thing because we are a product of
our past and our history and our evolution. I mean,
the reason we're here is because you know, we didn't
our ancestors didn't get you know, slaughtered in whatever conflict
(03:30):
or you know, fight or whatever. You know, we've survived
different diseases. You know, that's evolution.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Isn't it absolutely?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Hey, what what's the thing as body types? I've you know,
talk about mesomorph and endomorphin ectomorph and people say, I'm
a little bit meso endo or are they actually a thing?
Because because looking around the waterfront on a nice sunny
day and Tomky Drive, there's a lot of mesomorphs with
their heads with their shirts off. But I mean there
(04:03):
is a fair bit of vanity rolling around the waterfront
and Tommackee anyway, But is it a thing?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, So just probably to back up for anyone that's
I'm sure we've probably all heard of some type of
body type categorization. But so somatotyping came around in about
the nineteen forties and it was where they tried to,
I guess, just describe what different bodies in general look like.
And they came up with three different somatotypes. So there
(04:30):
was an ectomorph, which, if you think about probably there
this way. I mean, I think back to being described
to me in pe class that was your classic basketball
at all, lean, long limbs, pretty skinny and not a
lot of body fat. And then we had mesomorphs, which
were more like our rugby players or weightlifters and that
type thing, you know, more square and including what they
look like in their face, and they had a lot
(04:52):
more muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And then we had the endomorphs.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Who were rounder, heavier, thicker set I guess you say,
and probably the thing that we all associate that with
these days is being more overweight. Those are what the
three originally came from. Largely it's been quite I wouldn't
say discredited.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Is it a crude sort of Is it a crude
categorization that we shouldn't really put too much weight on.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, so rather than being prescriptive of what we should
and shouldn't do, it's more a descriptive type of categorization
of what bodies look like. But largely there's very few people,
you know, that fall into one one category, and there's
a lot of people that will argue that there's a
lot of reasons why that doesn't even because really have
any you know, any any weight at all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Because look, because there are people who I mean, obviously
people have certain physical attributes and we're not all born
equal because otherwise, you know, we'd all be the fastest
man or woman in the world and would always also
be the best. You know, there wouldn't there would be
there be millions of Sam Ruth's.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And the thing that always comes to mind for me,
I don't know why this name pops up, but it's
hard to imagine sunny Bill Williams not being looking like
he just needs to look at a weight and he's
going to be ripped.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I actually have some really good examples of that, So
just through being on match Fit for those number of
years and just talking to a lot of the Polynesian boys.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So I have a really memorable story that I had with.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
A Ronnie Clark in the series, and he was saying,
how when they I think it was Verne Cotter, I
think that name rings a Bill was involved in their
strength and conditioning and when they sort of started first
putting them on fairly strict weight training regimes, him and
a lot of the other PACIFICA boys were just absolutely
you know, crushing it in the gym, and where whereas
(06:46):
the Meka milder you'd say, European fellas were just really
struggling to you know, to keep up with what they
where they could get to. And in the finish Ronnie
said they were asking the coach whether they should be
doing it because they were just so far ahead of
the others. So there's definitely there's definitely a case of
you know, genetically we are predisposed to be good at
(07:08):
some things and not so good at others, and that
goes obviously far more than physical. But probably the conversation
we're having today, we need to draw a line between
sports performance and health and fitness. I guess you'd say,
because there's no doubt that you know, if you look
at the person that's winning the marathon, or you know,
is standing on stage winning a weightlifting competition or sign
(07:31):
and so forth, they've definitely got a very specific body
type which allows them to rise to the top of
their sports. You know, just because genetically you have a
certain body type doesn't award you the gold medal or
the heck of a lot of hard work and intelligence
and intellect and all sorts of other things going to it.
But it is definitely the case that, yeah, your body
(07:51):
type will determine from a sport perspective what you're good at,
and potentially is the pastime what you might enjoy more
just purely because your body is more suited to it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, yeah, that is because there are some people who
will just love running and they just naturally sort of
take to it. I mean, we have Greg Pain who's
been on our show, who you know, is a big
defender of running because a lot of easas a lot
of the time, it's the way we're doing it. But
there are some people who would just love that form
of exercise where the whereas there are other people who prefer,
(08:20):
you know, the sort of more the gym, sort of
weights and all that sort of thing as a way
of keeping fit. Is that avoidable? I mean, should you
just follow what seems to fit or what?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah? Well, I mean when it comes to health and fitness,
the very most important thing that we know is that
if you enjoy what you do.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You're far more likely to stick to it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And in today's day and age, what we need is
consistency and exercise because we know it's just such an
eleixa long term for good health. You know, there's very
few medicines out there where the side effects are all good.
The side effects are like better mood, better sleep, stronger bones,
you know, potentially a longer life. So if you find
activities that you enjoy, then of course they're the ones
(09:04):
that you want to make up the bulk of your time. However,
having said that, there is also the I guess, the
sports science side of it, which would say, you know,
me as a as a as a personal trainer, I
would say, well, let's assess you and see where your
strengths and weaknesses are. And if things are already strong,
then maybe that's an area that we don't put too
much time into, unless, of course you enjoy it, that is,
(09:26):
but you know, we want to be building up the
areas which are our weaknesses, which overall are going to
make us better as a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I guess yeah, because I had a friend who is,
you know, wanted to lose a bit of weight, and
he saw a nutritionist and I'm not sure how he
saw about that, but they actually said, look, you know,
your major thing is you're actually a naturally muscular sort
of guy. And the recommendation was just get what you
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was sorting out the diet and truckloads of walk. You know,
truckloads are walking at a pace at a certain you know,
that certain pace where you are you can hold a conversation,
but you know, just short sentences sort of thing. And
the emphasis was like, you know, you're naturally muscular, you
don't need to worry about this. I'm not sure if
that was the right advice. Of course we could dig
into that, but are you know, are there some people
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who don't really need to worry about the sort of
weights resistance training because they're just awesome?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
There are frongs the donass. Yeah, well it's one of those.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Again, it depends if I would say if you're over forty, definitely,
if you're over fifty, you need to be doing some
form of resistance training because regardless of how much you
had in your youth, it is dropping away. It'll drop
it somewhere between five to eight percent per decade. We
know now, you know, the science is absolutely unequivocal that
for women that are going through menopause and on the
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other side of it, it is super important that they
are loading their bones and challenging their muscles. Otherwise that
you know, it really starts to drop away, and with
that our longevity.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And our health span is really affected.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So strength training when we're younger, I think for a
lot of people who is probably optional. Maybe if it's
going to make you better at your sport or you
really enjoy it, then yep, you could you could choose
to do it, but as we get older, it's really
it's tenants more necessity than anything else.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
What that looks like can be very varied, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So someone who's got a big background in it might
only need to do a very small amount of it.
Someone who's brand new to it it might be something
that they need to really focus on. So again, it's
really down to the individual more so than it is
the body type.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Have you I mean, have you have you dabbled in
focusing on certain types of exercise? I don't mean that
at the expense of another, but I do mean at
the expense of another. Say, you know you wanted to
get into running, Say and does Alex Flint go full
on into the running and sort of go, I haven't
done a press up in a while. Have you dabbled
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in different types of exercise where and notice the effect
that's out on you?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, it's probably that probably described my whole lived him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I actually I did have an inkling of the answer
to that question, but I wanted to flesh it out
a bit more. I mean, you know you have fads.
I've been a bit like that myself, But yeah, you've
I remember you came into the studio and I was like,
where's Alex Gon He's you know, he looks like this
guy looks like a triathlete.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So, and that's another really good example.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I trained up for the Gold Coast Marathon last year,
and just because of my background in strength training, that's
kind of what I've always done. I thought, I'm just
going to park it and I'm just going to throw
myself into the deep end and just see what where
my physiology goes if I just become a runner and
nothing else. And I probably suffered from a few little
injuries that I didn't need to have if i'd kept
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doing some strength training, such a just some little aches
and pains in my knees and hips, you know, which
I think were mostly surrounding probably biomechanics and core strength.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And as you're not eighteen years old as well, probably
absolutely okay, carry on, yep.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And then the other side of it as well is
that I think that when you throw yourself into something,
it's just impossible for you to hold all those other
elements up. So when I did that at the end
of my marathon training, which I did for about sixteen weeks,
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so I jumped back on our body fat scanners to
see where it was, and I was very lean.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Was I was the lightest I've been for a very
very long time.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But I'd lost about four kilograms and muscle, so it
wasn't all body fat.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It doesn't sound that bad as four that's I mean,
that's a chunk of muscle. But you lean, it's not
like you not like you were all sinew.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
No, but that's probably you know, that's probably close to
eighteen months worth of work to put that back on.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, here's the question, Alex Flint might want to put
it back on. But would it have mattered if you didn't.
I mean, could you have just maintained yourself at that
by doing a few lightweights?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yes? Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Like I say, it's the bare minimum to keep your
muscle mass is not very high. And to be fair,
it's probably one of those things because of you know,
strength trained for a long period time, I've probably got
a bit of excess that I could do without anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So yeah, that's that excess muscle. That's almost like saying
excess awesomeness?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That is it? You with your shirt off wandering around topic.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Definitely not me.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But yeah, I think you know, it really comes down.
It comes down to balance. The other really interesting part
of this, I think is when it comes to weight loss.
So you know that we can look at this from
a what activities are you good at and what could
you enjoy and what are the ones that you really
need to do, whether it's you know, walking or lifting
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weights or running or whatever. But the one that we
really I think most people hone in on is everyone's
got that mate that just seems to be.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Able to eat whatever they want and they never put
on any weight.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh those ones. God, they're irritating, aren't they. And you
get somebody who works their butt off, they have a
muffin the next thing, they're five kilos.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So you know, so going back would say probably if
someone asked you that question, you would say they're probably
a thicker sette person to start with. More of that
endomorphic style shape is what you would expect. There is
some what we call obesity genes out there. So one
of the ones, the most common, is the FTO gene,
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which is linked if you have that gene, you do
have a higher obesity risk.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And we know that that runs in families.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But when we look a bit deeper, the two things
that make up the majority of why people are overweight.
One is locality and sort of their ethnic background, and
the other one is their socioeconomic background. So those are
the two things that really have the biggest bearing on weight.
If you have the obesity gene, Interestingly, it's not really
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your metabolism which is slower. There may be some impact
on fat burning, but largely what it is it is
to do with society and hunger. So those that have
obesity genes tend to have less satiety, more hunger and
food rewards.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Society being feeling satisfied after you've had a snack rather
than being ravenous for more, is it?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's you know, if we look
at what GLP one weight loss struggs do, that's a
lot of a lot of treating.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Is that that's suppressing the food noise?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I'm sorry I interrupted, Then I jumped in too quick.
So I mean out of their metabolism types as opposed
to you know, we've got body types. Is it more
of a case that people have as you've said, it's
a metabolism type and also to do with the sotiety
and the what's the other one you talked about, society
versus hunger hunger signals.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, yeah, So so in terms of metabolism types, it's
really really interesting when we look across the lifespan. It's
not until we're hitting our sixties where we see dramatic
slowdowns in our metabolic rate. So from person to person
we will have, you know, definitely have some differences in
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metabolic rate, which is how much energy we burn per day.
Now most of that needs to be measured at rest.
So you and I are sitting in chairs at the moment,
so we're not burning a lot of energy as opposed
to if we're in out running or cycling and so forth.
So that metabolic burn at rest is something which there
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is a bit of a variation between people, but it's
far less than what we actually thought originally. So we
used to say that for every kilogram of muscle that
you could put on, that was about an extra hat
that was about an extra one hundred calories of burn,
of metabolic burn that you would get per day. So
ideally if you could put you know, if you could
lose ten kilos of body fat and put on ten
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kilos of muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
The outcome would be you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Get stuck under the pancakes.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So that's sort of true because that's
fascinating because.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There's also that problem that when people start a new
exercise habit regard, they think they've earned that muffin and
that's why they wonder why they haven't lost any weight,
because they've actually subconsciously compensating. So they go, well, I
went for a run today, I did such and such,
and so they don't think too much about what they eat,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
No, no, and it's far easy to eat it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You know, you can take forty minutes to burn off
five hundred calories and you to eat it back in two.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Just to finish off that last story, so with the muscle,
we now know that it's only about it's less than
ten calories per kilo, so we don't actually put on
all this muscle and then have this much stronger a
metabolic rate.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So really the thing that influences our metabolic rate the
most is our overall health and our overall level of
movement per day. So if you're someone who you know
he's up and about on your feet, or you're doing
a lot of exercise, you're going to have a high
metabolism that someone that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Gosh, it is a complex beast, isn't it? The human
physiology and metabolism. We'd love your cause on this. By
the way, we're with Alex Flint. He's from He's a
founder and coach at Body Talk. By the way, he also,
I mean, he's would be fair to say your specialty
is maybe getting older people who've had the glory days
and have let themselves go, but and you know, rebuilding
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your fitness and turning you into something you've never imagined
you could be if you're maybe beyond your twenties. Shall
we say, how would I describe your gag? Actually, Body Talk,
I mean, because you do work with people who are
sort of, you know, slightly older than the sort of
youthful athlete, aren't they, and about transforming them into their
either that what their glory days could have been or
might be.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, I think probably the easiest way to describe what
we do is we prepare for the second half of
your life.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So we look at the one.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, so we look at you know, making sure that
you can live life on your terms as you get
a bit older, so that you know, the average age
of something that comes to my gym is actually in
their fifties now, so that's still climbing. We have people
right through in their seventies that are learning to lift
weights and getting back into exercise, you know, right through
the ex professional sports people, all blacks and so on,
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and it's really just about you know, maybe your so
called glory days are over, but there's a lot of
life to live and the biggest thing is that your
health span is something that we can really affect through
not you know, not crazy amounts of exercise and not
absolutely super strict diets, but just by doing the right
thing ninety percent of the time and being consistent, you
can really have a big impact on your wellness.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Right, if you've got any questions for Alex, we started
the conversation talking about whether we're affected by different body
types and different exercise needs, but actually, if you've got
any questions or observations on how you've found the sort
of exercise that suits you, and you know, did your
body type or your the way you perceived your body type,
did that affect you know, the way you the choices
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you're able when it made, when it came to comes
to sport. Give us a call. I eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty text it's twenty seven and a half
past four News Talks. He'd be yes News Talks, he'd
be by the way. I can quiz Alex till the
cows come home about my own fitness, but I don't
want to do that just on on the radio all
the time. So you can give us a call. I
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as Josh has
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Josh Today.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Good afternoon. Just yeah, interesting topic for myself. I'm probably
the opposite to the majority of people in the space.
I'm always trying to put weight on. Yeah, my main
question is just kind of regarding as is like you're
just your body tip type. Maybe is a point where
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you need to accept it, and like say, from my example,
I'm going to the gym, I'm trying to put muscle on,
I'm trying to pop weight on. I'm very active person
and I am just scanny as a rake healthy. If
I try and eat more, I end up feeling slow
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and lazy. And it's just so my question basically, as
some people just need to be scanning and like, am
I better off just to be scanny than try and
put this muscle on just just so I feel like
I love better?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I actually you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Or yeah, I mean yeah. Is it just a stake
that you're you're just one of those skinny guys Alex, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It is definitely a case, Josh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think probably there's a lot of people listing that
have loved to be in your shoes. But I definitely,
you know, I understand where you're coming from in terms of,
you know, you put a lot of effort in and
try best to put weight on. It definitely is the
case that we have a difference in potential for muscle game.
So it is somewhat tied a little bit to the
amount of typing. If you know, you're naturally a very
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lean person, you do tend to have higher activity levels overall,
which can sometimes you know, be meaning that if you're
trying to put some muscle on, you've almost got to
be one of these people that's trying to do less
outside of the gym. So you go and do your
gym sessions, and you do your strength training, and then
you try and make that the majority of your physical activity.
Just so that you're minimizing your overall metabolic burn. And then,
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like you say, the other side is literally how much
food can you get in without making yourself feel sick?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Things like genetics.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
We have different types of muscle fibers, so you know,
you've probably all heard of the difference between fast and
slow twitching muscle fibers. That's a bit of a simplification,
but often when you're quite thin, you've got quite a
lot of the slower twitch fibers, which they can absolutely
solidify and get bigger hypertrhe as we call it, gain
in size, but it's a much slower process. How long
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have you been at the gym sort of trying to
put a bit of weight on that?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Probably about such smile. Recently I heard a crash on
my motorbikes just I had a week off, mate, but
bruise webs, so it's not just an excuse cut.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are you getting stronger, Josh.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, I feel like I feel yeah, definitely feel stronger
in the core. But it's just yeah, it's just I'll
just I guess what I'm saying is I've tried to
put on my entire life and I stressed myself out
on it, and I've kind of got to the conclusion
now and after what I was just said earlier, maybe
I'm just in the wrong industry. Maybe body types and
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the work you choose in your life are actually quite
important because I'm in a very physically demanding industry where
I can't I can't get at risks, you know what
I mean. So I've gone to the gym and I'm
working hard. Maybe I need to should have chose a
different career.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Actually, I think the question is is it do you
do you want to put muscle on because you want
to look different in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying I want to feel good about myself.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
You sound like you're pretty awesome if you're slimmon you're strong.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But it's just I don't know. I thought it's females
always talking about being overweight a lot, you know, males
on the other side of it. I think it's males
being underweight.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It was just.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
It tears as challenges growing up, like probably getting teased
to being large.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But yeah, yeah, I hear.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You, mate. I mean, look at your body type. You
know it's it's it's the stigma and everything. I mean,
any words, I mean I sort of think Josh needs
to go easy on himself.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, I think it's the same, Josha.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I mean, my personal take on this is I probably
was a very similar to myself growing up, you know,
as I was obsessed with the fact that I felt
like I was quite thin, and you know, I just
threw myself into it with everything that I possibly could,
only to get to the other end and think really
doesn't matter that much as long as you're happy and healthy.
But there's I absolutely here, Josh, what you're saying about.
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You know, we live in a world where stigma and
body types and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's just such in the limelight.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But it's really I guess it's you know, you've got
to go after what makes you happy and knowing that, Ye,
there's some people that it's just going to be very
easy for them to look a certain way.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah. The one thing I would say on that is, you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Know, we look at the plethora of social media and
the majority of those photos of influencers, it's a split
second photo where they look the way they do. You know,
they're not the majority of them are not walking around
looking like that as well, So you know, the stereotypes
out there are just so unforgiving.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And actually, Josh, one thing, one thing question's worth asking.
Have you have you just trained yourself or is have
you actually engaged with a personal trainer or someone.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I have got a personal trainer on board just to
get me going. Just how to you know, what the
technique and what not for a lost thing. But yeah,
so yeah, I relearned. So there wasn't just a word.
And I guess it's a realization for me that I
should use my brains now thet's say, brain's not brawn. Mate,
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I have a lot of people have one or the other. Mate.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know what, if you're keeping fit and strong, you know,
I give yourself a break as well, I think you know,
and you know that's all I can say.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But yeah, absolutely, I just remember, sorry, just just remember
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's a multi year you know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Strength training is a very long slow burn talking years
to really see big changes in most people anyway, So
six months relatively early days.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, hey, just quickly that I've got a few
texts on this before we go to Ken and it
says I'm not sure if this is a brag or
a fact check text here it says, I'm in my
sixties and swim forty lengths twice twice a week and
about five thousand steps a day. Is that enough of me?
Thought he was going, Hey, I'm in my sexties doing others,
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But I mean, is that enough swimming that type of exercise,
which is like load bearing in a way.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, it's absolutely great for cutting vascular side of things,
very good for the mobility somewhat. We know that it's
superior when it comes to respiratory so the breathing side
of it for swimming is great. Topping that up with
some walking every day really fantastic. There is no, unfortunately,
not a lot of load bearing work in there, so
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it just needs something which is going to stress bone
and muscle and require it to stay.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Resilient in view age.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
So again, could literally be fifteen to twenty minutes of
body weight stuff at home or on the side of
the pool. You know, you could stack it with what
you're already doing, but just some sort of resistance training
is probably what's missing there.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But overall that sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I've got a quick question actually on the cycling thing,
because some people when you cycle, that does and I've
got onto that myself actually, but there's a certain level
of load which just the action of cycling up hel
which is like, you know, it's high rep obviously, but
it sort of feels like it's laid bearing, is it
or is it non count.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know, that's actually a really good question. I can't
truthfully give an answer to that without looking that up.
I'm not sure about that, you know, because if you
think about that, it would be very similar to a
loaded lead press machine, which we know does give a
stimulus to bone and muscle. And it's definitely a case
if we look at cyclists, they've got well developed legs,
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whether they are in the gym or not. So from
a muscle perspective. Absolutely for females, if we're looking at bone,
bone stress, I would have to come.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Back on that one.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, it's definitely question on a bike because yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, look we've got to take another break. We've got
some cause more call calls to get into, and we're
with Alex Blint. He's the founder and coach Body Talk.
You have any questions about you know, you're frustrated by
your body type or something you need to do differently
or you know, I mean part of it is maybe
accepting that we're all a little bit different as well.
Hundred twenty to five news talks that be whether Tim Beverage,
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my guest for the health Huber is Alex Flinty's founder
and coach at body Talk, and you know, just about
exercise with your diet type. And we're taking your calls,
and we've got lots of calls lined up, So nothing
from me. Let's go to Ken. Hello.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Well good, I just point out I'm driving my car,
so it might drop in and out.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Okay, But my question is.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
What is the real effect of the demon drinking? You know,
beer and wine? I mean, are these really things that
change your weight?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, booze weight, yes, Alex go, there we go.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, great question, great question.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Succinctly yes, it does as largely because of the behavior
that's surrounding it. So if we don't number one, if
we're not able to use the alcohol as the energy
that we're drinking at the time, it will be stored
as body fat, so it's not something which will be
preferentially used for energy later on. So if you're while
you're drinking, if you're not outrunning that you know that
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that's going.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
To be stored as body fat.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
The second thing we know about it is because it's
a very high energy source and it's not a normal substrate,
like it's not a protein, it's not a carbohydrate or
a fat, our body has trouble processing it. So if
we are drinking regularly, our liver is somewhat compromised, and
our liver is our fat burning organ So those two
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things together can create a bit of a metabolic imbalance
when it comes to trying to lose weight.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
The other thing, the social side of it.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
We know that it's actually what alcohol is associated with,
so it's the other behaviors. So we're far more likely
to snack. Our food choices surrounding alcohol largely tend to
be more relaxed, and we tend to overeat more easily
when we are drinking.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
So there's a scientific side of it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yep, it does have some impact, but there's also the
social side of it. Generally speaking, moderate drinking which is
considered most kiwizy sounds like, so low but less than
somewhere between four zero to four drinks per week. We
don't see too much issue with people trying to lose
weight over that it can become an issue. And I
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think again it does matter with age, so as we
get older, alcohol becomes more of a metabolic blocker.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, hey, thanks for your cor kin. Hopefully that answers
your question. Thank you, and let's go to Christine.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Hello, Hello, hi, hi, hi Thai. I'm cooler and I
listen to your radio station. Question is I'm seventy three.
Four years ago, I had a heart problem, stop smoking,
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change my diet from dairy to plant food, and I
regally I do taie cheese. I go to the gym
only once week and I do weight lifting and you know,
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stretches and all that, and then Wednesday I do it's
a waka armor, which I enjoy surry because it just
builds my muscles and it makes me feel good. The
only problem is I am having trouble trying to tone
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my bealt area. I'm not that much over weight, but
still having problems.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay, just.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
My back off and yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
First of all, Christine, I want to say that you're fantastic.
That is absolutely amazing that you've turned it around. That
from having a heart problem to stop smoking to tai
chi and wakama in the gym. That's good on you.
That's absolutely fantastic. So I think you know you're absolutely
on the right track. Probably the one thing with waka
arma is it does what does require. It's a type
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of like so wak armas the traditional Mali canoes. So
got paddles in teams, all right, yeah, yeah, So the
biggest thing with that is it does require a lot
of core strength, Christine. So the movement of your body
when you're when you're in the waka means that you
are putting a lot of stress on your back. So
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potentially when you go to the gym, if you could
maybe talk to the gym instructor there and see if
they could help you with a few more core exercises.
The biggest ones are, you know, our simple planks and
some different bits and pieces. But for me to be
able to give you the right exercise, I'd really need
to be able to sort of see you in person.
So maybe when you go to the gym, if if
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you've have you got a fitness instructor there that might
be able.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
To help you.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
I live up in the sun north right out on
the peninsula, and the closest gym would be oh, it's
about half an hour three quarter serve an hour dry
for it or for me to go.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, right, Christine, I would absolutely if you would like,
I'm more than happy to give you some help. Would
just probably have to do it outside of the of today,
but I could very easily help you out with a
couple of core exercises that have probably sort out exactly
what you need and keep you going because I think
what you're doing is absolutely fantastic. You just need to
get in contact with me. Have you seen my website
(35:39):
body talk dot co dot m Z. You can just
contact me there and I'm more than happy to help
you out.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, Okay, body talk as in t O r q
U E. By the way, as in talk as an
energy body talk Okay, Alex Flint. So check him out
and drop them a note and I'll remember talking to you.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, please make sure you do, Christine. I'd love to
help you out.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Good stuff. Hey, just quickly before we go to the break.
When you resistance, how much is enough? As people get
a little bit older and it's like, well, you need
to throw some resistance training. And I'm probably asking for
myself because I'm right out to the barking and I've
got a kettlebell I sling around sometimes with a few
goblet squats and kettle bell swings, but that's about it.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, fifteen minutes twice a week, just all you really
need to do is be working on progressive overloads. So
you're just taking your body. Depending on the exercise that
you're doing, you're taking your body to the point where
those those rips, you know, whether you're doing push ups
or get ale bet swings or squats, they're starting to
get pretty difficult and you need to take a rest.
So if you're doing you know, sort of five or
(36:41):
so exercises two to three sets twice a week, that's
all you need, which you can easily cut out under
twenty minutes if.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You're efficient with your time, so you don't need a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And I think that's probably that's a good question, Tim,
because the fitness industry is one of these things where
everything becomes extreme. You know, we need this much Zone
two and we need this much cardiovascular excise and so
much weight training. But the raality is most of us
are very time pause. So just the bare minimum for
most of us is all we need. Because you know,
you look across the population and largely the biggest issue
(37:12):
is we're just inactive. Four minutes of exercise today we
know has dramatic effects in our lifespan. So if you
can find fifteen to twenty minutes every other day and
you know, combine a bit of cardio and weights, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, everything's got what I call the would you like fries?
With that? And I don't mean to have from my diet,
but it's like, you know, you pick up a new habit.
It's like even if you pick up golf with you know,
we've you've got the latest, you know, the latest clubs,
you've got the latest sort of thing to help your
swing and all that sort of thing. If you're doing cycling,
you get the latest thing to help you get a
bit more power in your pedalers. There's always something would
you like fries?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
With that?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
As opposed to just keep moving and see where you go.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
That's it's it's the boring one, but it's it's the reality.
You know, that's just what we need. We need to
all be out moving. And the fitter you get, and
we're just talking about this off here, the more energy
you have and overall, the better your mood is.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And that's a real winner.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay, we'll be back. We've got well squeeze in one
more call. I think after this gym's way. I think
it's nine minutes to five. Yes, news talks there be
with Alex Flint from Body Talk, and time for one
last quick call Jim. We've got about a minute and
a half.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Okay. I'm ninety two and I walk three to four
CA's every six days a week. I'm not overweight, and
I drink almost nothing but good stuff. What would you
recommend that I should be doing to be able to
carry on my good life?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Jim, I would say, keep doing exactly what you're doing
at the age of ninety two. You're doing a lot
of things right to be still going. We know that
past the age of eighty largely a lot of our
lifestyle choices and practices are what keeps longevity going. So
the fact that you're up, you're active, you clearly must
if you're a decent weight, you clearly must be looking
(38:59):
after what you eat. So there's not a whole lot
that really at ninety two that I should be telling
you should do more.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Perhaps you know very the walks you go on, Try
and do some hillwalks.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
One day and some flat walks the other it's probably
something that you're already thinking about. The biggest thing that
will probably have a really good impact on you is
doing some balance work. So if you could find some way,
whether you look at something like some short yoga or
Thai cheese sole practices or just some simple balance activities,
(39:29):
because as we as, that's one of the biggest things
that causes to fall over and get in all sorts.
So maybe including some balance work, but over all, Jim, yeah,
crops to you.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think you're having fantastic good work.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Jim. Hey, thanks for sorry, we didn't leave much time
to explore that further with you.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Jim.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Actually I see arch Jelly who is now one hundred
and three. He walking and he does a few light
hand weights and things like that. But keep moving, I guess. Actually,
there was one quick text I'll read to you, Alex,
which is just quite a useful thing for other people
who are listening, and that's from Amy. She just said
that there's a video that she saw of a ninety
two year old and that one of the lessons is
(40:05):
she'd wish she'd bought a built more strength in her
twenties and and sorries in her fifties and sixties and
prepared her body what she called its betrayal in her
seventies and eighties, which you know, caution retail, I guess
get movement.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Good a boss. Yeah, Strength is never a weakness.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, mat Hey, good to see Alex. Look forward to
next time.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Great, Thanks again, Tim, Cheers.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Cheers And if you want to check track down Alex's
body talk and just google that and you'll find him.
We're back with the Smart Money's Next.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
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