February 7, 2026 • 40 mins
Getting fit and healthy is just about throwing on your running shoes and making a salad.
The key to sticking with a workout routine, is finding the right sort of exercise for you so that you don't get sick of it.
We've seen another wave of fitness trends recently, with Hyrox gaining popularity, 75 Hard, and cold plunges among others.
We'll often overlook these as just being the current thing, maybe even a fad that will boost your dopamine for a week or two before fading into the abyss of the Ab Roller and other 'As Seen On TV' trends.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talk sedb.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
DO and welcome back to the Weekend Collective. This is
the Health Hub where we talk well all things health
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eight hundred eighty ten eighty and you know them. Text
number is nine two nine two, And today we're talking
about getting look getting fit and healthy is well. I'm
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simply put, You've got to keep moving and eating well,
don't you. So get on your exercise club, maybe make
a few salads question mark perhaps, But what is the
key to finding what workout routine is the one for you?
I mean, as you just need to look around all
the different ways people exercise, whether it's swimming getting out,
whether it's swimming, rowing, running, walking, riding or some of
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these new fitness trends. But how do you find the
one that suits you? Do you have to try them
all out? I don't know. But we've seen another wave
of fitness trends. This thing called high rocks is gaining popularity.
I'll be honest with you. Adn't heard of high rocks
until a few days ago. There's another thing called seventy
five hard I have no idea what that is. Then
we've got cold plunges among others. That just sounds like
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a way of torturing yourself anyway. But of course you
do get the you get the fitness fads, even a
fad that's going to boost your dopamine for a week
or two before you know, fading into the abyss of
the ab roller and other the as seen on TV trends.
I remember, I go, I remember the bullworker, Remember the
bull the chest expanded. That's right. But anyway, have you
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tried any of the trends? Did it get you into
the exercise? Was it a doorway, a gateway into you
becoming a magnificent human being for the rest of your life?
Or did you try it and you mean, oh, bugger
this it's way too hard. We want to know, how
did you find the right exercise for you? Eight hundred
ten and eighty text nine two niney two and joining us.
I reckon he would have owned a bullworker at some stage.
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I reckon, we're a chest expander's he's a health coach,
and he's Kent John's you you might be too young
to remember the bullworker or the chest expander.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I had I picked one up second hand. It would
have been in the early days of trade me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It was the roller, So you put your hands behind
your head and you did sit ups and it was
like a frame thing. Oh okay, like a circular sort
of shape. I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Because the chest expanded, funny enough, was a back exercise.
It was one, two, three, four or five strings with
springs with a handle and you pulled it apart, and
it was It was funny that it was called a
chest expander because it was all about back strength and
it was this ridiculous thing. And the other one was
the bullworker. The bullworker. Was it a bullworker? It was
like a like a hydraulic sort of pipe. You just
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pushed it in from each side. Whereas you just save
yourself money and do.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
A few push ups, wouldn't you do you do some
other stuff?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What what fitness trends of you? I mean, now you
know you are you and now the obi wan kenobi
of exercise, of course, But before, when you were just
a young man who didn't know much, did you fall
into any exercise trends?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Don't think I've ever been sucked in by a fair
but I'm a little bit of a contrarian by nature,
so I'll probably just stand back, have a look around,
and before I'd decide to dive in. I'm definitely a
cold plunger, as you well know. That's right, So we
can talk about that again if you.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like cold plunge not much fun.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Next, actually had a swim today. It was beautiful, but
you wouldn't exactly say going to the beach in feb
as a cold swim.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was thinking, actually the ice baths, which are they're
a bit of a trend for some people.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
They can be tortuous, but then you feel great afterwards. No,
I can honestly say I've never been sucked in by
a fad.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Did you Okay, not sucked in by fad. But there
are trends such as I mean used to originally in
the days before aerobics classes and all that, it was
what was it called jazz size. It was just simply
moving to music then, and there's still music, but it's
now it's a bit.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
More Jane Fonda and all of the ladies my mom
used to put on their leg warms and go up
to the local hall and do that, and then come
home and watch Richard Simmons on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
God, I wonder where those leg warms. They're all on
landfill now, aren't they stuffing fillers?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Cushion fillers?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But what does tell us? What is high rocks? And
what do you know what seventy five hard is.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've heard of seventy five hard. I've done some research
on seventy five hard. I'm pretty sure I'll die curious
on seventy five hard high rocks. I know a little
more about because some of them are really good mates
have done it and it was I think was it
last weekend? Was it a week ago? I think last
Saturday that they all turned up at epsom and got
stuck in. It's quite aspirational to get yourself that fit,
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to be able to even complete it. So a couple
of my really good mates. One was doing it for
the second or third time, so he wanted to beat
his time from last year, whereas one one of my
other friends had never completed it. All he wanted to
simply do was to finish. He didn't care how many
penalties they dished out, how many seconds they deducted from
from this time or added on. He just wanted to
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finish it. It sounds absolutely brutal. To be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's a fitness racing sport too, isn't It's not. I
mean you can train for I've seen people doing various
types of training for something that looks like high rocks
back when I was back when I was at the gym.
But yeah, what is what do you have to do
for high rocks?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Is?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What are some of the examples?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Well, you have there are i think seven or eight
stations which involve shorter, sharper movements and between each station,
and you have to run for a kilometer, so it's
seven or eight k run, oh god, as well as
all of these other things that you have to be
able to do to be fear. One of my mates
he just said, I was just so proud of myself
to even finish it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So it's ah, yes, it says the race is identical everywhere.
There's a one k run which followed by a thousand
meter ski erg h that is that when you're sort
of like like you're sort of doing the biathlon skiing
sort of thing, but it's a machine and.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There's the rowing machine.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
There are lunges, sled push, sled pull, So you do
a one kilometer run, then a sled push, then you
do another K, then you do a sled pool, then
you do another k, then you do eighty meters of
burpie broad jumps I've seen Actually, I did like the
look of that because if you can jump, I think
it's as far as you can jump. Then if you
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can jump a long way, then you do a burpie
in that grid, whereas if you just do a little,
you do more of them. I think it's eighty meters
a burpiece.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Farmers carry also, and the music's pump and they cheer
each other on and then you get handed and an
energy drink when you're finished. So it's high octane stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Baby, Well you've got to have something to throw up
after you drink. So these are good. Do you think
these are a good way to get into exercise that
whatever works, or do you think that you know it's
gonna be while.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, i'd like I would say though with the seventy
five hard and the forty five and all that sort
of stuff, Tim, you just want to make sure that
you're doing it properly and that you're supervised, or that
you have a proper trainer who can help you with
progressive overload so that you can handle it and that
you're doing it with good form. But I know people
now who would were an active sedentry who are hooked
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on this stuff and it's getting them out of bed.
They're heading off to their classes in the morning. They've
got some connection with a group of like a cohort
of fellow enthusiasts. So by and large, it's all pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
The knock on some of the stuff of courses that
when people are tired, when they're fatigue, their technique goes
out the window, and so that's when they're susceptible to injury.
And there's all so a fear that a lot of
people don't allow enough recovery between sessions and over time
of course that can lead to to burnout. So there
are some things to consider, but people are into it,
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and how long it's the big thing. I've got no
idea I think that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I mean, look, I'm no expert on these things. But
the thing that would worry me, I guess with any
form of it looks like something that there'd be a
real temptation to leap into it, you know, boots and
all and just give yourself allows the experience Whereas, really,
if you are looking to begin exercising and enjoy it,
you don't really want to make it too unpleasant for yourself,
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and definitely you don't want to injure yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
No, you want to go in quietly and just build
things up, get yourself a train, and get someone in
there who's a professional just to help you work through it.
Because if you looked at the Higher Rocks, like if
I was to train for it, or for you were
to train for this team, there's no way either you
or I would be capable to complete it if we
went hell's bells.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was about to say, speak for yourself, but what
if what if we just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Built up our regime over time to the point where physically, mentally,
emotionally we can handle that intensity of that workload, perhaps
in the future would be capable to finish it. What
is the key?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We mentioned this because it is one of the latest trends. Actually,
we'd love to hear from you if you're doing higher
Rocks or one of these extreme I would call it
reason me extreme. You're not just going for a walk
a lot around the block, are you. We'd love to
hear from you. About you know how you got into
it but can't to me. As I mentioned the opening remarks,
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you know they're cycling, running, swimming. You know, there's all
sorts of ways of getting fit, and we all have
different ways, different people suited to different exercise regimes. Would
be the first question, what's your observation of it?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think people do what they would enjoy doing. So
a lot of people are sedentary, a lot of people
don't aren't as physically active as they used to be.
I've spoken to in dozens of people over the last
couple of years actually around exercise, fitness, how they're going,
and quite often tim there's a correlation between lack of movement,
lack of exercise and poor health. Chances are, quite often
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when you talk to someone who's just not quite feeling
themselves or the battling, they've lost the time or the
energy or the inclination to move, they've stopped playing sport,
they've fallen out of contact with their mates, and they're
just not doing what they used to be able to do.
So then the question becomes, Okay, what used to work
for you? What do you enjoy doing? And we would
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be a good place to start because just because this
high rock stuff is big at the moment, and just
because people are going to the gym and some of
us are running and playing tennis and doing other stuff
that can be intimidating if you don't do that, or
you're not inclined to do that, so you might not
do anything. But just going for a walk is a
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great way to kick things off.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Because that's an interesting question, isn't it. The people who
had former sporting glory and if you've been a competitor
sports person, and a lot of people, a lot of
us in our youth were competitive at something, And I
think that's one of the catches is that you know,
you almost have to park your ego at the door
before you head out, head out the door, because and
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just get moving, you just you know what. And I
tend to think that if you were giving advice to
someone who's looking to start an exercise habit, the first
thing would be like, well, it might be cycling, it
might be swimming at whatever, but just get out and
get that feeling of movement where you are getting your
aerobic rate sort of ticking over. Would that be your
advice to people or what you were just saying there
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reminds me of a story a guy was telling me
a little while ago. He was in the sauna in
this guy's in his fifties, and he was telling me
about some of the bodies that were walking in and
out of the sauna, and great place to observe body shapes,
of course.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He said, in this young guyky man, he must have
been early thirties. And I just looked at him, and man,
he was in great nikki, had a six pack, and
he just looked so fitting. And I could see that
he was shaking head, thinking, once upon a time that
might have been me. And I said, hang on a sec,
I said, how old was this blake? Oh, I'm guessing
thirty two. There you go. You're now in your fifties. Yeah, Well,
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is it fear to compare yourself to a guy early thirties?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, there will be people in their fifties or a
magnificence of a way, that is true. I'm always amused.
But I don't know what you think of this. I've
noticed there are more and more young men running around
the waterfront with their shirts off and I and they
do have I mean they're doing it because they're going, yeah,
I look pretty awesome, And I was just thinking before
there'll be a time in their life where they go
I might need to put that shirt back.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
On now, but.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't know what they could be overheated? Are you
an overheater when you run?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, I still wouldn't take my shirt off. But even
if I was ripped and looking magnificent, I wouldn't take
my shirt off just because I don't know. It just
feels a little bit sort of look amra, look amoy,
look at me. Anyway, Hey, look, we'd love to hear
from you though about what you know? How did you
get into exercising in a way that you made you
stick with it? Because I would I would think it
would be common sense that if you go out and
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you give yourself a lousy experience, you're hardly going to
continue with it, are you eighty? Let's start the ball
rolling show?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We Tom Mallow, Thank good afternoon. I was listening to
you after four of our exercise. I used to race
bicycles and do running and adding around road to rub
I've been on a bicycle for about over forty years,
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and I think and I've just had open heart surgery
and above replacement that wait for your hospital and I
think people and seriously, al I'm seriously need to look
at their inside. What the eating before the evening? Considering
the exercise?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yep? Are you where you at with your exercise? And
did you say you cycle and ran for forty years
or something?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah? I went on new gym on road race when
I was fifty three in master theon Oh okay, I
only won one, but one was enough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh, I think that's magnificent.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So they don't give you these things. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So where are you at now with it?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
When did you have your heart operation?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I hadn't wait for your hospital had a doctor gun?
Who did it?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah? Went? How long ago?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Two years?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay? And where are you at with the exercise now?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I'm still doing a bicycle three and four days
a week a bicycle. I'm against running and I'm eighty
because eighty is too hot on the board. Not eighty
is too hot. Running is too hard on the body. Yeah,
bicycle or exercycle. There are great machines to get fit.
(15:01):
Yeah sure, Yeah, Swimming is another one. I used to
do a lot of swarming.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
How did you come back so after your heart operation?
You said you've had a valve replacement. How did you
get back? And I mean you look to me it
sounds like time. You've had a lifetime where you've enjoyed exercise,
So you haven't really had a big battle to establish
a habit for decades. Did you have a battle to
get back into it after your heart operation?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
No, because you've got to understand one thing about exercise.
The drives already there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, what would you say to someone who hasn't got
the drive?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Then?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
How would you get them gone?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh that's a hard road our reckon. Since will become modern,
Since we have become this is from last same trip
of this century. And this is including the children that
we bring up, we've become very much chair people. I
call them the chair people. Yeah, we spend a lot
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of time in a chair.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So what advice would you have for people apart from
I mean you might not be able to get them
out of their chair because of their job and everything.
What would you say to people who want to get
it moving?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That's a hard once.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, I was hoping Tom might give us some answers
on that one. But good on you for getting back,
for keeping yourself moving after the heart.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
We have become very century. There's no doubt about that.
And that is a risk factor in and of itself
for poor health as we aged him. So it's a
separate risk Apparently, it's a separate risk factor for poor
health to exercise. So you might have people who are
super fit, they do lots of exercise, lots of running,
they're super fit, but if they spend a lot of
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their days sitting down, that's a separate risk factor for
chronic disease later in life. So you want to make
sure that a you're moving a lot and doing some exercise,
but also you're getting up and going for little movement
breaks every forty five minutes. Get up and go and
do a few press ups, or.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Some squatter hard sell or just go we'll go, or walk.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Anything that gets you moving, get up, do a few burpees,
could be anything. Anything that gets you going.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, we're going to take some more calls than just
a moment. How did you establish an exercise habit which
you've managed to stick with because there are lots of trends.
Was there a trend that got you exercising some latest
exercise thing where everyone's doing it and you thought, I'm
going to get on on that and that was your
way to get to get your life changed eight hundred
eighty ten eighty Or was it simply just you tried walking,
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you tried running, you tried swimming, you tried cycling, and
all of a sudden one of them stuck. How did
you get into it to establishing a habit that would
last you your lifetime. It's twenty four past four. We'll
be back in just a moment. News Talk said b Yes,
News Talk said b O. Eight hundred eighty ten and eight.
How do you find the right exercise for you? And
how did you find the right exercise that got you
going for your life? On exercise?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Kent?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
John's is my guests and John, Hello, good eight boys.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
How are you John?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Hello there, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Things?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Good?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
So yeah, Look, I think a lot of it is
a lot of people, you know, you said they might
have been involved with stuff in the underlife, and then
as they've gotten older, you know, they put a load
of weight on and and and you know, it's it's
it's quite hard for those people. I've always been an athlete,
I've ran it and vel now I'm on at this morning.
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I wrote for three hours with an eighty six year
old friend of mine and and you did you boys,
hear me?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yes, we're all good, We're all good.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
So you know, but I've always been an athlete, so
I guess I guess for people who have been athletes,
maybe it's a bit easier because it's what we sort
of do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And and.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know, I don't look at other people and think
I'll just do what I do. I think I think
everybody's got to find their own thing. But it's got
to be it's got to be enjoyable. And I think
a lot of people think that exercise, you know, to
improve to lose weight, to have better help, that it's hard.
And I don't think it has to be hard. I
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think what people need to do is they need to
find something they maybe something they can do with other people.
And the key thing is just discipline. Out of discipline,
its motivation and you start to see some improvements. And
I think, but I do think people have got to
enjoy what they do, otherwise they're just not going to
get up out.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Of the chair.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think you're spot on, and in fact, the word hard.
I was chatting with Kenton in the break about this
kent you were talking about. You know, if it's also
the way you define things instead of hard, you think
of it as something that maybe is a bit of
a challenge or something.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I try and stay away from the word hard because
I think a lot of people won't jump in and
try if they think it's too hard. But I do
believe that most of us are up for a challenge.
So in my experience with Behavior Change Team, a lot
of people find it challenging. Some people find it really difficult,
but most people don't. Most people find it challenging, but
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they soon realize that they're up for it. And what
normally hap and to sort of John's point is that
they do a little bit of work, they try some things,
they notice things, they see some benefits, They start to
feel good, which then feeds back into motivation to keep
going again.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you're right, John, I mean, you've got to find
something that's enjoyable. I think that's the problem for people
who are maybe historically a bit sedentry is that they
view exercise as a punishment for the fact that they'll
let themselves go. And that's the worst way to look
at it, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Did you still hear me yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh you can't hear us.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
No, No, I can hear you.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
That's fine. It just I didn't know whether are still
or not. I think the other thing is love, you know,
it's just a fact of life. But you know, we
go to the super market. Most of stuff in this crap, right,
So everybody eats a whole load of rubbish. Now, as
an athlete, if I eat rubbish, most much risk and
health to use as other people. Now, I eat pretty well,
but I treat myself from time to time like an
ice cream, you know. So I don't live like a month,
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but I eat really well. So I think the other
part of this is that eating we need too much.
We eat rubbish, And I think there has to be
a step change there. As people find something you'll be doing,
they get back into movement, they see some improvements. But
I do think that people need to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Look at what they're putting in now, No, got on
your John. We definitely did lose John that time.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
No, he's underd percent, right, And if my dad's eighty
six years of age, he's made a conscious effort this year.
So what's that five weeks to cut back on ice creams,
cut back on price cut back on chocolate. He said
to me the other day, he said, mate, he said,
I'm wanting to move. I want to get back into
more walking. What's going on? I said, well, you tell
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me what's changed. And he said, oh, I've cut back
on all of the stuff. Do you think there's a
relationship there? I said, well, what do you think? He goes,
I just feel like I'm energized. That's exactly what we
would expect him, because as it turns out that the
human genome hasn't changed I think it's forty five to
fifty thousand years, it actually wants to move. So when
you are more energized, when you've got access to more energy,
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your body wants to move. It's weird, but there has
been so much research into this now, whether you're a
young kid, or you've been a diabetic, or you've been overweight,
or you're older, that when you cut back on sugar
and processed food like John was just talking about, and
that can help reverse your insulin resistance. You can then
access a whole lot of the energy that's been stored
(22:28):
in your fat cells. And guess what you're bouncing, You're
wanting to move, You're wanting to your body is craving
the movement. So the eating is a huge part of it.
Can't be underestimated how important that role is.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's actually we'll dig into the eating side of things
again because I've had a few observations on that myself,
simply because I learned to make a few more salads
than just getting a bit of letters.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well you are a salad dodger before that, Ah, No,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But it was always easy to boil some vegetables and
potatoes or broccoli, but I.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Just make cafe stwn.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well I'm doing still doing the sardo and all that.
But no, it was actually chat, the accessibility of recipes
through chat GPT. My wife said, can you make a salad?
And I basically went into the fridge and I went, Okay,
we've got some kerma, We've got lettuce, got this, this,
this and this, and I just said, I got these ingredients,
design a salad for me. And I had one of
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the most delicious sunds I've ever made. And by virtue
of that, eating better healthier.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Is there something now where you can take a photo
from what's in your fridge?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And the thing goes spits out something.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
To eat pretty much. And as I said, I did it.
I mean I did it with just words and putting
the ingredients in. But you know it's it's amazing. So
technology can help. I mean, technology might also keep you
on your ass for the rest of the day and
not doing anything, but when you want to use it
to do something useful, it's also quite helpful. Tell you
what we need to go to Adrian, Hello, oh, hello,
(24:01):
on the.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
First time, call Hello, Hi, I just wanted to reliterate
what's been set that a few years ago. I knew
that I had to do weights and get a bit
more flexibility in my body. And I go to sit
Your Fitness on a Sunday morning and I go around
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and do weights, and then after that I do a
class called Synergy, and that's a class that's a combination
of plates and yoga. And I was a bit nervous
about doing it because I thought, oh, how am I
going to do the moves? But you know, no one's
judging you, and it's a great instructor and over time,
I've been doing it for a number of years now
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and there's the regulars and it's a great social occasion.
You feel great afterwards, and it's like you're on steroids
for a few hours because you've done something with your
muscles and you've done something for your coordination and your flexibility,
and it kind of sets you up for the week.
So apart from doing that, I just walk to work
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every day, well most days, So that's sort of my
exercise routine for the week.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Good stuff. What was your big what was your entry
level into exercise?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Oh? Just walking.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
I do a lot of tramping, but you know, as
I've got older, I kind of thing where you need
to keep fixable and you need to do the weight resistance,
so I sort of incorporated that more.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, that's actually yeah, Adrian, that's the thing that I've
given up the gym because I just, I'll be honest
with you, can't I go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I just get bored with it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I just don't. I like moving. I mean, I love
the biking now, but I've always just the idea of
being outside. I mean, Adrian, there is talking about tramping
and stuff, but the gym. I mean, how did you
make the adjustment to doing weights and stuff and enjoy it, Adrian?
Was it just the social side of it?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well, I win turning off at our world. We'll just
play around with a few weights and just see how
we go. And then I just watched other people and
I will admit, you know, with a bit of day
dreaming of said, oh hell, I better do some more weights.
And then you look around and you watch people think
oh well, I've been doing another ten ten reps of this.
But you know, after a while, I think it's just
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everybody's there to do the same thing, and so there's
a great vibe in the place. And that's what I
like about city fitness and unans. I will call it
out and it's great people. It's a great atmosphere and
I really enjoy going because you're doing something with your body,
you're seeing people. And I do this class and I
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walk out feeling really great. Admissingly, I haven't gone today.
I've just thought it's nice day, makes most of it
in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
How many days a week do you do?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
I will admit it's only one. But the rest of
the time I walk to work and I walk home,
which is long.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You keep that's the thing, you keep moving, and that's
good on you. Adrian, Hey, thanks for that.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
That's the key problem.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The key we attitude is in life wit and played
around a few.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Weights, and the good idea and the good thing is Adrian. Also,
you've become a first time caller, so you'll be a
second time caller next time you've broke in the ice. Well, okay,
thanks Adrian, yees, bye bye, we'll take a break actually
and be back in just a moment. How did you
get exercising? And actually actually can't before we do?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I think, I mean, everyone has a.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Sort of exercise they're more attracted to just because of
the I mean, I don't know. I mean some people
are happy exercising stand I think for me, I like
moving outdoors and just getting around. And there are but
there are types of exercise. Some people prefer the sort
of short intensity and that sort of side of things,
whereas there are other people who prefer, you know what,
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long distance walking, hiking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's what you're most likely to do as probably one
of your golden behaviors if we would talk about that.
So you reeled off a few examples before cycling weights,
you know, skipping, boxing, training, playing tennis, playing golf, going
for a walk, game for a run, high in tent city,
interval training, all of that sort of stuff. Right, you
write them all down, figure out which are the ones
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that you won't do. Put a line through them. Yeah,
you know, which are the ones that you'll resent doing?
You just got no time for them. Put a line
through them and see what you've got left. And then say, okay,
what what have I tried in the past, What would
I enjoy? What have I enjoyed? And see if you
can land on one or two what we would call
golden behaviors. We you're likely to give it a crack,
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and then you go, Okay, when am I most likely
to do these and feel successful for doing it? Am
I a morning person? And no I'm not? Okay? Can
I do it at lunch time? No I can't because
I'm working? Okay, Will I actually commit to going for
a walk at four point thirty in the afternoon? So
you start to play around with it, tweak it, and
then from there you can it's a rate and make changes,
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but try and get yourself going up and running to
start with.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's interesting, As I said, I did say, I don't
like going to the gym and doing weights. But funny
thing is I have found a type of weight regime
which I quite enjoy which is the dumbbells, doing dumbbell
swings and stuff. Because they're compound, they feel like naturally
human sort of things ways of moving. Some of them
like the dumbbell swing, which is apparently one of the
better exercises you can do, which is but I won't
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describe it because if you want to learn how to
do it, you probably need to have a look at
a decent video on that sort of thing. But I
quite like that because it feels like it's doesn't feel
like it's just putting weight on a bar and going
I don't know, and maybe that's just me swing a sledgehammer.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Chopping sounds what you've given a few things a crack?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh I have? What's it? Well, you know, probably on
something different next year, but anyway, Hey, we'll take your
calls though. What exercise regime worked for you and how
did you go about finding it to making to creating
a habit where you're enjoying what you're doing and getting
fit and healthy and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
It is?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All that sort of thing sounds so vague, doesn't it.
It's twenty to five News Talks, hed B News Talks.
Here be a couple of Actually, there a couple of
things where you can about getting into exercise. A quite
a few texts here. One just says having a really
rough relationship breakup is the best way to get into
a solid regime. What's actually quite a good way to
deal with the breakup is to just you've got to
fill out, Well, there's a slice of the part that's
(30:14):
been taken out of your life, so you've got to
fill it with something. An exercise is not a bad move,
would be what a counselor would say. I'm quoting a
counselor actually on that one. And you know how you
and I were talking about while I was talking about
the number of people I see running with their shirts
off around. Yeah, there's been a few cynical texts on that,
but basically it boris down to this text. There is
no excuse for running with your shirt off your opposer.
(30:38):
This texter among others either that if you had and
you may well do because you're modest, guy can't if
you had the sort of physique where you take your
shirt off and you're like, I'm awesome, and you went
for a run when you think it's time to peel
the shirt off. This is too good not to show.
Would you ever do it?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I went for a run today in the oppressive midday
heat and I was drenched, but the single that stayed on.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I see. I think there's something in modesty. I would
still want to think that I'm wearing a T shirt
that would flatter me, but I wouldn't take it off.
I'd rather just leave a little bit too. He looks
pretty good, it looks.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Pretty good, but if he takes the shirt off, he
will confirm that he's not. So let's leave.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Anyway. And eighty Noel, did he?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Things?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, I'm just I just talked listening to your show
first on Caller, I actually tuned around and found myself
and I'm pretty embarrassed situation when I was in my
mid thirties to thirty thirty five to six where I
actually end up getting someone haking a picture of me
coming out of a suit, and my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I you saw yourself in a none none less than
flattering image.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yes, very so I tune in and went to involve
compete about a Body for Life and went to a
gym and then that twelve week programmed Body for Life.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh yeah, and what's that pretty?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
That was basically where you did our twelve weeks and
you had to do certain exercises, weights, and you basically
tried to all the idea of that to lose weight
and get cut and basically it gave you twelve weeks
and program went for twelve weeks and it went back
to that was nineteen ninety six, ninety seven started and basically, yeah,
(32:29):
I got involved in it and I went to a
gym Wahn one hundred kg six years five years later
I think it was, and I fell in love and
stopped going with gym, and I left at one hundred kg.
The difference was, I've said about a pretty the same
body fat I lost. Ye, the best shape of my
life of forty.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Was that's good. Good on you. Was the secret to that,
the fact that there was a sort of end goal
in mind that got you going. It wasn't like I'm
going to the gym and I never know when I'm
going to stop. It was like, here we are, We're
in for twelve weeks, and here's what the plan is,
here's my challenge.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
All my playing was to keep on going. Actually it's
that was basically for four years at two thousand and
year two thousand, I met somebody in there and started
going two days a week, one day a week. We're
not to put it into never. And that stayed that
way until about probably these three years ago, and I
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ended up being one hundred and thirty eight kg. I
put on thirty eight kg because I didn't do any
exercise or playing golf with about it, and found myself
having the tunion and going us severe a diet, not
a major diet. It took me twelve months to get
down to one two five and then started trading the
gym again. And now I'm walking about one ten at
the moment, and I'm probably getting fit again. But you've
(33:42):
got it's just a matter of finding what tickles with Bush.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So what do you what's the exercise you enjoy now?
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Basically I like, yeah, a bit of but I like
doing a few weights, but not too many weights. I
didn't go. I don't lift what I used to lift
because now I'm sixty six step well into the sixties,
mid sixties and so on, So I lift lighter weight
for more reached because I don't want to muscle up
at my age. Because to stop going it just wage basically, So, yeah,
(34:13):
I thanks walking, make exercising on treagnals and that they're
a good start, and a few ways, not not too
much about about forty five minutes a day day, a
few days a week. It's enough to do it. And okay,
but the golf as well, so.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, that's that's a good way to ruin a good walk,
isn't it? Playing golf. That's a good way to ruin
a good walk.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
The way I play good stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Cheers now, uh any comment on that I'm playing golf
this week.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Actually we'll have to run so we don't spoil the walk, exactly,
Bruce Good, Yeah good.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
What really strered me to ring you up is when
the guy talked about a relationship break up and how
he got exercised that way. And my, my, I'm seventy
two now and you know, in good neck. But what
happened is my family have had a history of depression
and my father suffered from it quite badly. And in
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those days I used to prescribe the benzo medication and
I was determined that and when I was growing up,
I was taught that a healthy a healthy body leads
to a healthy mind. And I saw what happened to
my father, and that was this thing that motive faited
me to exercise a healthy body. And because it's depression,
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you get a predisposition to it. It's a genetic trait.
I believe that that flows through. And I found that
exercising kept my body healthy and helped my whole mental demeanor.
And I would get up in the morning and I'd
run three k's every single morning, and that it became
(36:00):
a habit and also a previous caller on the enjoyment aspect,
and that's you know, that's critical. So that's how I
got into it. And my family, my mother was in
the Commonwealth Games. My grandfather, her father worked with Arthur
Lydiat and trained athletes like Gill Bailey and Murray Halberg.
(36:25):
So there's also a genetic link there. And my grandson's
just competed in the in the cycling Nationals at Cambridge,
So but is a genetic link there. But I used
it to keep my head in shape. And I think
if you have some sort of like an emotional breakup,
(36:47):
I'd be really interested to hear that how that's led
people to work it out with exercise.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, I think I think what you're also talking about, Bruce,
is having a motivation which rests outside your own ego.
It's not just about it, because I think if you're
exercising just because you want to look awesome quickly can
disappoint yourself, can't you. You need to have some other motivation.
Wouldn't you say?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, I would say that. But what what you talked
about also is you know, I really admire if I
see a guy that's ripped and he's got his shirt off,
I don't I say good on your, mate, And I'll
actually go up to guys and I'll because I live
on the Gold Coast as well, and I will say,
you know you're in good, nick, mate. I have no
hesitation that even complimenting women. I'm seventy two mates. They
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know it's not a come on.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think it's a harder call go out to women
and saying how you're looking great?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
But they need that acknowledgment because you know, they it's
something they've worked at, it's something they're proud of. Particularly guys.
I have no problem with guys showing off their bodies
and would I actually praise him? I say, make you
looking really good?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Nick?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
And they push weights I say, what can you press?
Can your bench press? And there's no hostility there. It's
just an open it's just an open conversation straight away.
And it's the same with the girls.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I've known a couple of women in their mid forties
that have had relationship breakups that have just hit the
gym and I've said to them, g you look good,
and that means the world to the may it's not,
it's not a sort of a good it's just the reinforcement.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, that's supportive, Bruce. Yeah, Yeah, that's an interesting that's
I wonder if I would compliment, Well, I said to you, actually,
obviously I thought you're looking and good, Nick.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What's more important is how they are feeling. And you know,
to come back to a point that we circled around
a little while ago, Tim. For ice plunging, for example,
ask people why they do it? Well, how can you
use you like cold swimming? Or why is it that
you plunge an ice? Ask them, just ask them why
and their answer will tell you as to the benefits.
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Because you feel bloody good afterwards, and that way you
can take all the signs put it to one side.
You don't have to worry about it, and Bruce is
right when it comes to how we feel mentally and emotionally,
we know that movement and exercise is going to help.
And that's why people then get hooked on it is
because they feel so bloody good afterwards.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Good stuff. We'll be back in just a moment. It
is eight minutes to five news talks. It be news talk. Said,
B's pretty much just about wraps the old health up.
How can we tied it up with a nice little bow?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
There can well some bloody good stories actually lots of enthusiasm.
I think that's the thing for me that's landing for
me today, Tim listening to people stories and you having
read out those text messages. It's about finding stuff that
we enjoy doing and really doing the best for ourselves
point making sure that what we're doing is fun and
that we can feel that it's achievable. Take up a challenge,
but if it feels too hard, it's probably because it
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is to start with, So start small. Figure out, really,
why is it that I want to be fit? Why
do I want to start running again? Why do I
want to start playing tennis? Why do I want to
go to the gym?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Don't give yourself an unpleasant experience first time. Just go
out to maybe get a few breaths of air in
your lungs.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
See how I start taking notice of how these things
make you feel. And if you do that, you're on
to a winner.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Good stuff, mate, Hey, great to see you, can't you too, Ted?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Look you're looking great mate. I want to see you
dragging with that shirt off. Anyway, we'll be back a
smart money. We're talking trusts and also just how do
they fit into the age care funding model because it's
expensive once you have to go into care. So we'll
be talking with Janets of CoA. She's managing director of
New Zealand Family Trust Services. Get on the blow Up
(40:40):
back soon.
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
DO and welcome back to the Weekend Collective. This is
the Health Hub where we talk well all things health
actually and we want your calls and your participation on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and you know them. Text
number is nine two nine two, And today we're talking
about getting look getting fit and healthy is well. I'm
(01:01):
simply put, You've got to keep moving and eating well,
don't you. So get on your exercise club, maybe make
a few salads question mark perhaps, But what is the
key to finding what workout routine is the one for you?
I mean, as you just need to look around all
the different ways people exercise, whether it's swimming getting out,
whether it's swimming, rowing, running, walking, riding or some of
(01:25):
these new fitness trends. But how do you find the
one that suits you? Do you have to try them
all out? I don't know. But we've seen another wave
of fitness trends. This thing called high rocks is gaining popularity.
I'll be honest with you. Adn't heard of high rocks
until a few days ago. There's another thing called seventy
five hard I have no idea what that is. Then
we've got cold plunges among others. That just sounds like
(01:47):
a way of torturing yourself anyway. But of course you
do get the you get the fitness fads, even a
fad that's going to boost your dopamine for a week
or two before you know, fading into the abyss of
the ab roller and other the as seen on TV trends.
I remember, I go, I remember the bullworker, Remember the
bull the chest expanded. That's right. But anyway, have you
(02:08):
tried any of the trends? Did it get you into
the exercise? Was it a doorway, a gateway into you
becoming a magnificent human being for the rest of your life?
Or did you try it and you mean, oh, bugger
this it's way too hard. We want to know, how
did you find the right exercise for you? Eight hundred
ten and eighty text nine two niney two and joining us.
I reckon he would have owned a bullworker at some stage.
(02:29):
I reckon, we're a chest expander's he's a health coach,
and he's Kent John's you you might be too young
to remember the bullworker or the chest expander.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I had I picked one up second hand. It would
have been in the early days of trade me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It was the roller, So you put your hands behind
your head and you did sit ups and it was
like a frame thing. Oh okay, like a circular sort
of shape. I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Because the chest expanded, funny enough, was a back exercise.
It was one, two, three, four or five strings with
springs with a handle and you pulled it apart, and
it was It was funny that it was called a
chest expander because it was all about back strength and
it was this ridiculous thing. And the other one was
the bullworker. The bullworker. Was it a bullworker? It was
like a like a hydraulic sort of pipe. You just
(03:18):
pushed it in from each side. Whereas you just save
yourself money and do.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
A few push ups, wouldn't you do you do some
other stuff?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What what fitness trends of you? I mean, now you
know you are you and now the obi wan kenobi
of exercise, of course, But before, when you were just
a young man who didn't know much, did you fall
into any exercise trends?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Don't think I've ever been sucked in by a fair
but I'm a little bit of a contrarian by nature,
so I'll probably just stand back, have a look around,
and before I'd decide to dive in. I'm definitely a
cold plunger, as you well know. That's right, So we
can talk about that again if you.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like cold plunge not much fun.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Next, actually had a swim today. It was beautiful, but
you wouldn't exactly say going to the beach in feb
as a cold swim.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was thinking, actually the ice baths, which are they're
a bit of a trend for some people.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
They can be tortuous, but then you feel great afterwards. No,
I can honestly say I've never been sucked in by
a fad.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Did you Okay, not sucked in by fad. But there
are trends such as I mean used to originally in
the days before aerobics classes and all that, it was
what was it called jazz size. It was just simply
moving to music then, and there's still music, but it's
now it's a bit.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
More Jane Fonda and all of the ladies my mom
used to put on their leg warms and go up
to the local hall and do that, and then come
home and watch Richard Simmons on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
God, I wonder where those leg warms. They're all on
landfill now, aren't they stuffing fillers?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Cushion fillers?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But what does tell us? What is high rocks? And
what do you know what seventy five hard is.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've heard of seventy five hard. I've done some research
on seventy five hard. I'm pretty sure I'll die curious
on seventy five hard high rocks. I know a little
more about because some of them are really good mates
have done it and it was I think was it
last weekend? Was it a week ago? I think last
Saturday that they all turned up at epsom and got
stuck in. It's quite aspirational to get yourself that fit,
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to be able to even complete it. So a couple
of my really good mates. One was doing it for
the second or third time, so he wanted to beat
his time from last year, whereas one one of my
other friends had never completed it. All he wanted to
simply do was to finish. He didn't care how many
penalties they dished out, how many seconds they deducted from
from this time or added on. He just wanted to
(05:37):
finish it. It sounds absolutely brutal. To be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's a fitness racing sport too, isn't It's not. I
mean you can train for I've seen people doing various
types of training for something that looks like high rocks
back when I was back when I was at the gym.
But yeah, what is what do you have to do
for high rocks?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Is?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What are some of the examples?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Well, you have there are i think seven or eight
stations which involve shorter, sharper movements and between each station,
and you have to run for a kilometer, so it's
seven or eight k run, oh god, as well as
all of these other things that you have to be
able to do to be fear. One of my mates
he just said, I was just so proud of myself
to even finish it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So it's ah, yes, it says the race is identical everywhere.
There's a one k run which followed by a thousand
meter ski erg h that is that when you're sort
of like like you're sort of doing the biathlon skiing
sort of thing, but it's a machine and.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There's the rowing machine.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
There are lunges, sled push, sled pull, So you do
a one kilometer run, then a sled push, then you
do another K, then you do a sled pool, then
you do another k, then you do eighty meters of
burpie broad jumps I've seen Actually, I did like the
look of that because if you can jump, I think
it's as far as you can jump. Then if you
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can jump a long way, then you do a burpie
in that grid, whereas if you just do a little,
you do more of them. I think it's eighty meters
a burpiece.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Farmers carry also, and the music's pump and they cheer
each other on and then you get handed and an
energy drink when you're finished. So it's high octane stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Baby, Well you've got to have something to throw up
after you drink. So these are good. Do you think
these are a good way to get into exercise that
whatever works, or do you think that you know it's
gonna be while.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, i'd like I would say though with the seventy
five hard and the forty five and all that sort
of stuff, Tim, you just want to make sure that
you're doing it properly and that you're supervised, or that
you have a proper trainer who can help you with
progressive overload so that you can handle it and that
you're doing it with good form. But I know people
now who would were an active sedentry who are hooked
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on this stuff and it's getting them out of bed.
They're heading off to their classes in the morning. They've
got some connection with a group of like a cohort
of fellow enthusiasts. So by and large, it's all pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
The knock on some of the stuff of courses that
when people are tired, when they're fatigue, their technique goes
out the window, and so that's when they're susceptible to injury.
And there's all so a fear that a lot of
people don't allow enough recovery between sessions and over time
of course that can lead to to burnout. So there
are some things to consider, but people are into it,
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and how long it's the big thing. I've got no
idea I think that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I mean, look, I'm no expert on these things. But
the thing that would worry me, I guess with any
form of it looks like something that there'd be a
real temptation to leap into it, you know, boots and
all and just give yourself allows the experience Whereas, really,
if you are looking to begin exercising and enjoy it,
you don't really want to make it too unpleasant for yourself,
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and definitely you don't want to injure yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
No, you want to go in quietly and just build
things up, get yourself a train, and get someone in
there who's a professional just to help you work through it.
Because if you looked at the Higher Rocks, like if
I was to train for it, or for you were
to train for this team, there's no way either you
or I would be capable to complete it if we
went hell's bells.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was about to say, speak for yourself, but what
if what if we just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Built up our regime over time to the point where physically, mentally,
emotionally we can handle that intensity of that workload, perhaps
in the future would be capable to finish it. What
is the key?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We mentioned this because it is one of the latest trends. Actually,
we'd love to hear from you if you're doing higher
Rocks or one of these extreme I would call it
reason me extreme. You're not just going for a walk
a lot around the block, are you. We'd love to
hear from you. About you know how you got into
it but can't to me. As I mentioned the opening remarks,
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you know they're cycling, running, swimming. You know, there's all
sorts of ways of getting fit, and we all have
different ways, different people suited to different exercise regimes. Would
be the first question, what's your observation of it?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think people do what they would enjoy doing. So
a lot of people are sedentary, a lot of people
don't aren't as physically active as they used to be.
I've spoken to in dozens of people over the last
couple of years actually around exercise, fitness, how they're going,
and quite often tim there's a correlation between lack of movement,
lack of exercise and poor health. Chances are, quite often
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when you talk to someone who's just not quite feeling
themselves or the battling, they've lost the time or the
energy or the inclination to move, they've stopped playing sport,
they've fallen out of contact with their mates, and they're
just not doing what they used to be able to do.
So then the question becomes, Okay, what used to work
for you? What do you enjoy doing? And we would
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be a good place to start because just because this
high rock stuff is big at the moment, and just
because people are going to the gym and some of
us are running and playing tennis and doing other stuff
that can be intimidating if you don't do that, or
you're not inclined to do that, so you might not
do anything. But just going for a walk is a
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great way to kick things off.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Because that's an interesting question, isn't it. The people who
had former sporting glory and if you've been a competitor
sports person, and a lot of people, a lot of
us in our youth were competitive at something, And I
think that's one of the catches is that you know,
you almost have to park your ego at the door
before you head out, head out the door, because and
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just get moving, you just you know what. And I
tend to think that if you were giving advice to
someone who's looking to start an exercise habit, the first
thing would be like, well, it might be cycling, it
might be swimming at whatever, but just get out and
get that feeling of movement where you are getting your
aerobic rate sort of ticking over. Would that be your
advice to people or what you were just saying there
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reminds me of a story a guy was telling me
a little while ago. He was in the sauna in
this guy's in his fifties, and he was telling me
about some of the bodies that were walking in and
out of the sauna, and great place to observe body shapes,
of course.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He said, in this young guyky man, he must have
been early thirties. And I just looked at him, and man,
he was in great nikki, had a six pack, and
he just looked so fitting. And I could see that
he was shaking head, thinking, once upon a time that
might have been me. And I said, hang on a sec,
I said, how old was this blake? Oh, I'm guessing
thirty two. There you go. You're now in your fifties. Yeah, Well,
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is it fear to compare yourself to a guy early thirties?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, there will be people in their fifties or a
magnificence of a way, that is true. I'm always amused.
But I don't know what you think of this. I've
noticed there are more and more young men running around
the waterfront with their shirts off and I and they
do have I mean they're doing it because they're going, yeah,
I look pretty awesome, And I was just thinking before
there'll be a time in their life where they go
I might need to put that shirt back.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
On now, but.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't know what they could be overheated? Are you
an overheater when you run?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, I still wouldn't take my shirt off. But even
if I was ripped and looking magnificent, I wouldn't take
my shirt off just because I don't know. It just
feels a little bit sort of look amra, look amoy,
look at me. Anyway, Hey, look, we'd love to hear
from you though about what you know? How did you
get into exercising in a way that you made you
stick with it? Because I would I would think it
would be common sense that if you go out and
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you give yourself a lousy experience, you're hardly going to
continue with it, are you eighty? Let's start the ball
rolling show?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We Tom Mallow, Thank good afternoon. I was listening to
you after four of our exercise. I used to race
bicycles and do running and adding around road to rub
I've been on a bicycle for about over forty years,
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and I think and I've just had open heart surgery
and above replacement that wait for your hospital and I
think people and seriously, al I'm seriously need to look
at their inside. What the eating before the evening? Considering
the exercise?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yep? Are you where you at with your exercise? And
did you say you cycle and ran for forty years
or something?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah? I went on new gym on road race when
I was fifty three in master theon Oh okay, I
only won one, but one was enough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh, I think that's magnificent.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So they don't give you these things. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So where are you at now with it?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
When did you have your heart operation?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I hadn't wait for your hospital had a doctor gun?
Who did it?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah? Went? How long ago?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Two years?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay? And where are you at with the exercise now?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I'm still doing a bicycle three and four days
a week a bicycle. I'm against running and I'm eighty
because eighty is too hot on the board. Not eighty
is too hot. Running is too hard on the body. Yeah,
bicycle or exercycle. There are great machines to get fit.
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Yeah sure, Yeah, Swimming is another one. I used to
do a lot of swarming.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
How did you come back so after your heart operation?
You said you've had a valve replacement. How did you
get back? And I mean you look to me it
sounds like time. You've had a lifetime where you've enjoyed exercise,
So you haven't really had a big battle to establish
a habit for decades. Did you have a battle to
get back into it after your heart operation?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
No, because you've got to understand one thing about exercise.
The drives already there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, what would you say to someone who hasn't got
the drive?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Then?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
How would you get them gone?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh that's a hard road our reckon. Since will become modern,
Since we have become this is from last same trip
of this century. And this is including the children that
we bring up, we've become very much chair people. I
call them the chair people. Yeah, we spend a lot
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of time in a chair.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So what advice would you have for people apart from
I mean you might not be able to get them
out of their chair because of their job and everything.
What would you say to people who want to get
it moving?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That's a hard once.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, I was hoping Tom might give us some answers
on that one. But good on you for getting back,
for keeping yourself moving after the heart.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
We have become very century. There's no doubt about that.
And that is a risk factor in and of itself
for poor health as we aged him. So it's a
separate risk Apparently, it's a separate risk factor for poor
health to exercise. So you might have people who are
super fit, they do lots of exercise, lots of running,
they're super fit, but if they spend a lot of
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their days sitting down, that's a separate risk factor for
chronic disease later in life. So you want to make
sure that a you're moving a lot and doing some exercise,
but also you're getting up and going for little movement
breaks every forty five minutes. Get up and go and
do a few press ups, or.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Some squatter hard sell or just go we'll go, or walk.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Anything that gets you moving, get up, do a few burpees,
could be anything. Anything that gets you going.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, we're going to take some more calls than just
a moment. How did you establish an exercise habit which
you've managed to stick with because there are lots of trends.
Was there a trend that got you exercising some latest
exercise thing where everyone's doing it and you thought, I'm
going to get on on that and that was your
way to get to get your life changed eight hundred
eighty ten eighty Or was it simply just you tried walking,
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you tried running, you tried swimming, you tried cycling, and
all of a sudden one of them stuck. How did
you get into it to establishing a habit that would
last you your lifetime. It's twenty four past four. We'll
be back in just a moment. News Talk said b Yes,
News Talk said b O. Eight hundred eighty ten and eight.
How do you find the right exercise for you? And
how did you find the right exercise that got you
going for your life? On exercise?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Kent?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
John's is my guests and John, Hello, good eight boys.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
How are you John?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Hello there, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Things?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Good?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
So yeah, Look, I think a lot of it is
a lot of people, you know, you said they might
have been involved with stuff in the underlife, and then
as they've gotten older, you know, they put a load
of weight on and and and you know, it's it's
it's quite hard for those people. I've always been an athlete,
I've ran it and vel now I'm on at this morning.
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I wrote for three hours with an eighty six year
old friend of mine and and you did you boys,
hear me?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yes, we're all good, We're all good.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
So you know, but I've always been an athlete, so
I guess I guess for people who have been athletes,
maybe it's a bit easier because it's what we sort
of do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And and.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know, I don't look at other people and think
I'll just do what I do. I think I think
everybody's got to find their own thing. But it's got
to be it's got to be enjoyable. And I think
a lot of people think that exercise, you know, to
improve to lose weight, to have better help, that it's hard.
And I don't think it has to be hard. I
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think what people need to do is they need to
find something they maybe something they can do with other people.
And the key thing is just discipline. Out of discipline,
its motivation and you start to see some improvements. And
I think, but I do think people have got to
enjoy what they do, otherwise they're just not going to
get up out.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Of the chair.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think you're spot on, and in fact, the word hard.
I was chatting with Kenton in the break about this
kent you were talking about. You know, if it's also
the way you define things instead of hard, you think
of it as something that maybe is a bit of
a challenge or something.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I try and stay away from the word hard because
I think a lot of people won't jump in and
try if they think it's too hard. But I do
believe that most of us are up for a challenge.
So in my experience with Behavior Change Team, a lot
of people find it challenging. Some people find it really difficult,
but most people don't. Most people find it challenging, but
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they soon realize that they're up for it. And what
normally hap and to sort of John's point is that
they do a little bit of work, they try some things,
they notice things, they see some benefits, They start to
feel good, which then feeds back into motivation to keep
going again.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you're right, John, I mean, you've got to find
something that's enjoyable. I think that's the problem for people
who are maybe historically a bit sedentry is that they
view exercise as a punishment for the fact that they'll
let themselves go. And that's the worst way to look
at it, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Did you still hear me yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh you can't hear us.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
No, No, I can hear you.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
That's fine. It just I didn't know whether are still
or not. I think the other thing is love, you know,
it's just a fact of life. But you know, we
go to the super market. Most of stuff in this crap, right,
So everybody eats a whole load of rubbish. Now, as
an athlete, if I eat rubbish, most much risk and
health to use as other people. Now, I eat pretty well,
but I treat myself from time to time like an
ice cream, you know. So I don't live like a month,
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but I eat really well. So I think the other
part of this is that eating we need too much.
We eat rubbish, And I think there has to be
a step change there. As people find something you'll be doing,
they get back into movement, they see some improvements. But
I do think that people need to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Look at what they're putting in now, No, got on
your John. We definitely did lose John that time.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
No, he's underd percent, right, And if my dad's eighty
six years of age, he's made a conscious effort this year.
So what's that five weeks to cut back on ice creams,
cut back on price cut back on chocolate. He said
to me the other day, he said, mate, he said,
I'm wanting to move. I want to get back into
more walking. What's going on? I said, well, you tell
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me what's changed. And he said, oh, I've cut back
on all of the stuff. Do you think there's a
relationship there? I said, well, what do you think? He goes,
I just feel like I'm energized. That's exactly what we
would expect him, because as it turns out that the
human genome hasn't changed I think it's forty five to
fifty thousand years, it actually wants to move. So when
you are more energized, when you've got access to more energy,
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your body wants to move. It's weird, but there has
been so much research into this now, whether you're a
young kid, or you've been a diabetic, or you've been overweight,
or you're older, that when you cut back on sugar
and processed food like John was just talking about, and
that can help reverse your insulin resistance. You can then
access a whole lot of the energy that's been stored
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in your fat cells. And guess what you're bouncing, You're
wanting to move, You're wanting to your body is craving
the movement. So the eating is a huge part of it.
Can't be underestimated how important that role is.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's actually we'll dig into the eating side of things
again because I've had a few observations on that myself,
simply because I learned to make a few more salads
than just getting a bit of letters.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well you are a salad dodger before that, Ah, No,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But it was always easy to boil some vegetables and
potatoes or broccoli, but I.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Just make cafe stwn.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well I'm doing still doing the sardo and all that.
But no, it was actually chat, the accessibility of recipes
through chat GPT. My wife said, can you make a salad?
And I basically went into the fridge and I went, Okay,
we've got some kerma, We've got lettuce, got this, this,
this and this, and I just said, I got these ingredients,
design a salad for me. And I had one of
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the most delicious sunds I've ever made. And by virtue
of that, eating better healthier.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Is there something now where you can take a photo
from what's in your fridge?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And the thing goes spits out something.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
To eat pretty much. And as I said, I did it.
I mean I did it with just words and putting
the ingredients in. But you know it's it's amazing. So
technology can help. I mean, technology might also keep you
on your ass for the rest of the day and
not doing anything, but when you want to use it
to do something useful, it's also quite helpful. Tell you
what we need to go to Adrian, Hello, oh, hello,
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on the.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
First time, call Hello, Hi, I just wanted to reliterate
what's been set that a few years ago. I knew
that I had to do weights and get a bit
more flexibility in my body. And I go to sit
Your Fitness on a Sunday morning and I go around
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and do weights, and then after that I do a
class called Synergy, and that's a class that's a combination
of plates and yoga. And I was a bit nervous
about doing it because I thought, oh, how am I
going to do the moves? But you know, no one's
judging you, and it's a great instructor and over time,
I've been doing it for a number of years now
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and there's the regulars and it's a great social occasion.
You feel great afterwards, and it's like you're on steroids
for a few hours because you've done something with your
muscles and you've done something for your coordination and your flexibility,
and it kind of sets you up for the week.
So apart from doing that, I just walk to work
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every day, well most days, So that's sort of my
exercise routine for the week.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Good stuff. What was your big what was your entry
level into exercise?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Oh? Just walking.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
I do a lot of tramping, but you know, as
I've got older, I kind of thing where you need
to keep fixable and you need to do the weight resistance,
so I sort of incorporated that more.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, that's actually yeah, Adrian, that's the thing that I've
given up the gym because I just, I'll be honest
with you, can't I go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I just get bored with it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I just don't. I like moving. I mean, I love
the biking now, but I've always just the idea of
being outside. I mean, Adrian, there is talking about tramping
and stuff, but the gym. I mean, how did you
make the adjustment to doing weights and stuff and enjoy it, Adrian?
Was it just the social side of it?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well, I win turning off at our world. We'll just
play around with a few weights and just see how
we go. And then I just watched other people and
I will admit, you know, with a bit of day
dreaming of said, oh hell, I better do some more weights.
And then you look around and you watch people think
oh well, I've been doing another ten ten reps of this.
But you know, after a while, I think it's just
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everybody's there to do the same thing, and so there's
a great vibe in the place. And that's what I
like about city fitness and unans. I will call it
out and it's great people. It's a great atmosphere and
I really enjoy going because you're doing something with your body,
you're seeing people. And I do this class and I
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walk out feeling really great. Admissingly, I haven't gone today.
I've just thought it's nice day, makes most of it
in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
How many days a week do you do?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
I will admit it's only one. But the rest of
the time I walk to work and I walk home,
which is long.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You keep that's the thing, you keep moving, and that's
good on you. Adrian, Hey, thanks for that.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
That's the key problem.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The key we attitude is in life wit and played
around a few.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Weights, and the good idea and the good thing is Adrian. Also,
you've become a first time caller, so you'll be a
second time caller next time you've broke in the ice. Well, okay,
thanks Adrian, yees, bye bye, we'll take a break actually
and be back in just a moment. How did you
get exercising? And actually actually can't before we do?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I think, I mean, everyone has a.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Sort of exercise they're more attracted to just because of
the I mean, I don't know. I mean some people
are happy exercising stand I think for me, I like
moving outdoors and just getting around. And there are but
there are types of exercise. Some people prefer the sort
of short intensity and that sort of side of things,
whereas there are other people who prefer, you know what,
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long distance walking, hiking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's what you're most likely to do as probably one
of your golden behaviors if we would talk about that.
So you reeled off a few examples before cycling weights,
you know, skipping, boxing, training, playing tennis, playing golf, going
for a walk, game for a run, high in tent city,
interval training, all of that sort of stuff. Right, you
write them all down, figure out which are the ones
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that you won't do. Put a line through them. Yeah,
you know, which are the ones that you'll resent doing?
You just got no time for them. Put a line
through them and see what you've got left. And then say, okay,
what what have I tried in the past, What would
I enjoy? What have I enjoyed? And see if you
can land on one or two what we would call
golden behaviors. We you're likely to give it a crack,
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and then you go, Okay, when am I most likely
to do these and feel successful for doing it? Am
I a morning person? And no I'm not? Okay? Can
I do it at lunch time? No I can't because
I'm working? Okay, Will I actually commit to going for
a walk at four point thirty in the afternoon? So
you start to play around with it, tweak it, and
then from there you can it's a rate and make changes,
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but try and get yourself going up and running to
start with.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's interesting, As I said, I did say, I don't
like going to the gym and doing weights. But funny
thing is I have found a type of weight regime
which I quite enjoy which is the dumbbells, doing dumbbell
swings and stuff. Because they're compound, they feel like naturally
human sort of things ways of moving. Some of them
like the dumbbell swing, which is apparently one of the
better exercises you can do, which is but I won't
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describe it because if you want to learn how to
do it, you probably need to have a look at
a decent video on that sort of thing. But I
quite like that because it feels like it's doesn't feel
like it's just putting weight on a bar and going
I don't know, and maybe that's just me swing a sledgehammer.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Chopping sounds what you've given a few things a crack?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh I have? What's it? Well, you know, probably on
something different next year, but anyway, Hey, we'll take your
calls though. What exercise regime worked for you and how
did you go about finding it to making to creating
a habit where you're enjoying what you're doing and getting
fit and healthy and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
It is?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All that sort of thing sounds so vague, doesn't it.
It's twenty to five News Talks, hed B News Talks.
Here be a couple of Actually, there a couple of
things where you can about getting into exercise. A quite
a few texts here. One just says having a really
rough relationship breakup is the best way to get into
a solid regime. What's actually quite a good way to
deal with the breakup is to just you've got to
fill out, Well, there's a slice of the part that's
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been taken out of your life, so you've got to
fill it with something. An exercise is not a bad move,
would be what a counselor would say. I'm quoting a
counselor actually on that one. And you know how you
and I were talking about while I was talking about
the number of people I see running with their shirts
off around. Yeah, there's been a few cynical texts on that,
but basically it boris down to this text. There is
no excuse for running with your shirt off your opposer.
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This texter among others either that if you had and
you may well do because you're modest, guy can't if
you had the sort of physique where you take your
shirt off and you're like, I'm awesome, and you went
for a run when you think it's time to peel
the shirt off. This is too good not to show.
Would you ever do it?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I went for a run today in the oppressive midday
heat and I was drenched, but the single that stayed on.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I see. I think there's something in modesty. I would
still want to think that I'm wearing a T shirt
that would flatter me, but I wouldn't take it off.
I'd rather just leave a little bit too. He looks
pretty good, it looks.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Pretty good, but if he takes the shirt off, he
will confirm that he's not. So let's leave.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Anyway. And eighty Noel, did he?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Things?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, I'm just I just talked listening to your show
first on Caller, I actually tuned around and found myself
and I'm pretty embarrassed situation when I was in my
mid thirties to thirty thirty five to six where I
actually end up getting someone haking a picture of me
coming out of a suit, and my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I you saw yourself in a none none less than
flattering image.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yes, very so I tune in and went to involve
compete about a Body for Life and went to a
gym and then that twelve week programmed Body for Life.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh yeah, and what's that pretty?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
That was basically where you did our twelve weeks and
you had to do certain exercises, weights, and you basically
tried to all the idea of that to lose weight
and get cut and basically it gave you twelve weeks
and program went for twelve weeks and it went back
to that was nineteen ninety six, ninety seven started and basically, yeah,
(32:29):
I got involved in it and I went to a
gym Wahn one hundred kg six years five years later
I think it was, and I fell in love and
stopped going with gym, and I left at one hundred kg.
The difference was, I've said about a pretty the same
body fat I lost. Ye, the best shape of my
life of forty.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Was that's good. Good on you. Was the secret to that,
the fact that there was a sort of end goal
in mind that got you going. It wasn't like I'm
going to the gym and I never know when I'm
going to stop. It was like, here we are, We're
in for twelve weeks, and here's what the plan is,
here's my challenge.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
All my playing was to keep on going. Actually it's
that was basically for four years at two thousand and
year two thousand, I met somebody in there and started
going two days a week, one day a week. We're
not to put it into never. And that stayed that
way until about probably these three years ago, and I
(33:21):
ended up being one hundred and thirty eight kg. I
put on thirty eight kg because I didn't do any
exercise or playing golf with about it, and found myself
having the tunion and going us severe a diet, not
a major diet. It took me twelve months to get
down to one two five and then started trading the
gym again. And now I'm walking about one ten at
the moment, and I'm probably getting fit again. But you've
(33:42):
got it's just a matter of finding what tickles with Bush.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So what do you what's the exercise you enjoy now?
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Basically I like, yeah, a bit of but I like
doing a few weights, but not too many weights. I
didn't go. I don't lift what I used to lift
because now I'm sixty six step well into the sixties,
mid sixties and so on, So I lift lighter weight
for more reached because I don't want to muscle up
at my age. Because to stop going it just wage basically, So, yeah,
(34:13):
I thanks walking, make exercising on treagnals and that they're
a good start, and a few ways, not not too
much about about forty five minutes a day day, a
few days a week. It's enough to do it. And okay,
but the golf as well, so.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, that's that's a good way to ruin a good walk,
isn't it? Playing golf. That's a good way to ruin
a good walk.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
The way I play good stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Cheers now, uh any comment on that I'm playing golf
this week.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Actually we'll have to run so we don't spoil the walk, exactly,
Bruce Good, Yeah good.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
What really strered me to ring you up is when
the guy talked about a relationship break up and how
he got exercised that way. And my, my, I'm seventy
two now and you know, in good neck. But what
happened is my family have had a history of depression
and my father suffered from it quite badly. And in
(35:15):
those days I used to prescribe the benzo medication and
I was determined that and when I was growing up,
I was taught that a healthy a healthy body leads
to a healthy mind. And I saw what happened to
my father, and that was this thing that motive faited
me to exercise a healthy body. And because it's depression,
(35:39):
you get a predisposition to it. It's a genetic trait.
I believe that that flows through. And I found that
exercising kept my body healthy and helped my whole mental demeanor.
And I would get up in the morning and I'd
run three k's every single morning, and that it became
(36:00):
a habit and also a previous caller on the enjoyment aspect,
and that's you know, that's critical. So that's how I
got into it. And my family, my mother was in
the Commonwealth Games. My grandfather, her father worked with Arthur
Lydiat and trained athletes like Gill Bailey and Murray Halberg.
(36:25):
So there's also a genetic link there. And my grandson's
just competed in the in the cycling Nationals at Cambridge,
So but is a genetic link there. But I used
it to keep my head in shape. And I think
if you have some sort of like an emotional breakup,
(36:47):
I'd be really interested to hear that how that's led
people to work it out with exercise.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, I think I think what you're also talking about, Bruce,
is having a motivation which rests outside your own ego.
It's not just about it, because I think if you're
exercising just because you want to look awesome quickly can
disappoint yourself, can't you. You need to have some other motivation.
Wouldn't you say?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, I would say that. But what what you talked
about also is you know, I really admire if I
see a guy that's ripped and he's got his shirt off,
I don't I say good on your, mate, And I'll
actually go up to guys and I'll because I live
on the Gold Coast as well, and I will say,
you know you're in good, nick, mate. I have no
hesitation that even complimenting women. I'm seventy two mates. They
(37:39):
know it's not a come on.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think it's a harder call go out to women
and saying how you're looking great?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
But they need that acknowledgment because you know, they it's
something they've worked at, it's something they're proud of. Particularly guys.
I have no problem with guys showing off their bodies
and would I actually praise him? I say, make you
looking really good?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Nick?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
And they push weights I say, what can you press?
Can your bench press? And there's no hostility there. It's
just an open it's just an open conversation straight away.
And it's the same with the girls.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I've known a couple of women in their mid forties
that have had relationship breakups that have just hit the
gym and I've said to them, g you look good,
and that means the world to the may it's not,
it's not a sort of a good it's just the reinforcement.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, that's supportive, Bruce. Yeah, Yeah, that's an interesting that's
I wonder if I would compliment, Well, I said to you, actually,
obviously I thought you're looking and good, Nick.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What's more important is how they are feeling. And you know,
to come back to a point that we circled around
a little while ago, Tim. For ice plunging, for example,
ask people why they do it? Well, how can you
use you like cold swimming? Or why is it that
you plunge an ice? Ask them, just ask them why
and their answer will tell you as to the benefits.
(39:03):
Because you feel bloody good afterwards, and that way you
can take all the signs put it to one side.
You don't have to worry about it, and Bruce is
right when it comes to how we feel mentally and emotionally,
we know that movement and exercise is going to help.
And that's why people then get hooked on it is
because they feel so bloody good afterwards.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Good stuff. We'll be back in just a moment. It
is eight minutes to five news talks. It be news talk. Said,
B's pretty much just about wraps the old health up.
How can we tied it up with a nice little bow?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
There can well some bloody good stories actually lots of enthusiasm.
I think that's the thing for me that's landing for
me today, Tim listening to people stories and you having
read out those text messages. It's about finding stuff that
we enjoy doing and really doing the best for ourselves
point making sure that what we're doing is fun and
that we can feel that it's achievable. Take up a challenge,
but if it feels too hard, it's probably because it
(39:54):
is to start with, So start small. Figure out, really,
why is it that I want to be fit? Why
do I want to start running again? Why do I
want to start playing tennis? Why do I want to
go to the gym?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Don't give yourself an unpleasant experience first time. Just go
out to maybe get a few breaths of air in
your lungs.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
See how I start taking notice of how these things
make you feel. And if you do that, you're on
to a winner.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Good stuff, mate, Hey, great to see you, can't you too, Ted?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Look you're looking great mate. I want to see you
dragging with that shirt off. Anyway, we'll be back a
smart money. We're talking trusts and also just how do
they fit into the age care funding model because it's
expensive once you have to go into care. So we'll
be talking with Janets of CoA. She's managing director of
New Zealand Family Trust Services. Get on the blow Up
(40:40):
back soon.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
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