The mental health effects of generosity

This weeks episode revisited a remarkable act of generosity from December 2025, when a caller named Steve shared his struggles with health issues and mobility challenges. ​Steve, who lives alone and relies on a motor vehicle due to breathing problems and a tumour, revealed his car was in need of costly repairs. During the live broadcast, a listener named Katie from Christchurch offered to donate a mobility scooter that had belonged to her late brother, Steven.

The story inspired further generosity from Sukhminder Walia and Eric Pilling from shipping company Rhenus Logistics, donating their services to get the scooter from Katie in Christchurch, to Steve in Auckland. The resulting outcome has been transformational to Steve's life by enabling him to regain independence and mobility.

Katie, who joined the show, shared her philosophy of giving, which stems from her upbringing in a family that valued generosity. She explained how she regularly donates items, such as phones, tablets, and even cars, to those in need. ​For Katie, the joy of seeing others benefit from her kindness is deeply fulfilling. ​She emphasised the importance of giving without expecting anything in return and encouraged others to look for opportunities to help within their communities. ​

Listeners also shared their own stories of giving and receiving. ​Diane, an 84-year-old caller, recounted a touching moment when a young man paid for her groceries, leaving her overwhelmed with gratitude. ​Another caller, Brenda, shared how volunteering at an op shop helped her recover from a 15-year battle with schizophrenia, giving her a sense of purpose and connection. Kirsty, who started a Facebook page to match sponsors with families in need of school supplies, highlighted the importance of protecting dignity while giving.

The episode underscored the mental health benefits of generosity, with Psychotherapist Kyle MacDonald explaining that altruism fosters thriving communities and a sense of connection. While acts of kindness often go unnoticed, the show celebrated the ripple effect of giving and encouraged listeners to find ways to contribute to their communities. ​

Steve with the Scooter donated by Katie

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Greetings and welcome. I'm Hamish Williams and you're listening to
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(00:41):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Back in late twenty twenty five, we had a live
on air caller share some of his challenges and in response,
he was the recipient of immense generosity from one of
our listeners. We got back in touch with him to
see how it had impacted his life, as well as
the life of the generous person who chose to help him.

(01:08):
With all that in mind, psychotherapist car McDonald and our
audience discussed how generosity can affect our mental health. Let
us know what you think, as well as what you
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(01:29):
Let's get into this week's episode. Do you remember before
you went, because your final show technically was the first
of December. It was, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
It was the thirtieth, was the Sunday? First was the Monday?

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And it was interesting because I think on your final
show we were talking about kind of making a plan
to be able to get through the Christmas season and
just kind of knowing, you know that it can bring
up a whole bunch of challenges which can be unique
to that time of year. And I made some off
the cuff mark about how you know, my favorite thing
about going through was just knowing what a great audience

(02:06):
that we have and just how help they are, because
actually that's always been the premise of this show, right.
We had when we first started the Nutters Club, we
wrote this really long you know, sort of I guess,
mission statement, Mission statement, Yeah, yeah, exactly, like it was
what we wanted to get out of the show, and

(02:27):
then ultimately when we boiled it down, it was about, well,
you know, we wanted to have nutters helping nutters, being
able to live a life with peace, and purpose and
so you know, that's the core of what we've always
wanted to do on this show, right, if you're to
actually be honest about it, it would be the people
helping people club, But that's probably not going to get

(02:50):
a lot of listeners. We couldn't kind of gone with
that that would fit on the screen behind you. No, no,
But that is essentially what it is, the guts of it,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, And that actually the change that comes out of
that which has always been really cool to see.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So tonight we wanted to be able to talk about
something that happened on this show back in the first
of the Sea and it was quite extraordinary. So we
had this call quite called Steve and Steve Steve Cordon
and he was talking to us about his health and
how that was kind of challenging, especially around that time

(03:23):
of the year. So I'll play a bit, Okay, I'll play,
but this this was Steve who called us on the
first of December and the extraordinary thing that happened during
his call.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, I love an aw aloak and I think to
a little to you and bring Madi the say it.
It's been very hard for me this Strossmas because I've
been diagnosed with breathing probably breathing problems, and Fatima and

(03:57):
the mates had really really hard because the ying you
where I've going to use my motor vehicle as I
can't walk throughside with my breathing and you know what
I mean. And I'm sort of living on my own there,
and of course my car is going to go for
a while this month, that's for you. And I'm stayed

(04:18):
there at eight hundred thousd the repairs and hopefully winds
will paper for me, you know, on the bench and
I need it to year around. You know what I mean.
I can't I can't walk to the shops. I can't
walk to the doctors. Are An Evan Dalel and I
live and rull Awake and I need a cardy everywhere

(04:40):
I go. We weremble to get me here, there and everywhere.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know, Steve, I'll tell you what. I don't know
if you heard me say this earlier on the show,
but remember I said that that you know, the thing
I love most about the show as the audience and
I love I love that people can do Steve. Yeah,
I have just had a text come through and it
is somebody who was just saying, would you like a

(05:07):
mobility scar because they have one to give away. Would
that be helpful?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Oh that would be helpful. Yeah, okay, that would be
really helpful.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
That has come through from Kate. Now the only little
the only hassle here is Kate's and christ Kate's and
christ Church and you're in Auckland, right yeah. Yeah, Well,
where there's a will, there's a way, and you know what,
we're going to make this happen. Right. So that was
what happened on December first, and we had I.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Remember that call. It was a it was a remarkable
moment really and remarkable that the person literally texted and
while they were on the phone to us.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, here's the good news, Kyle. This is what I
can tell you is that we went through all that
and we actually did end up getting a very generous
career company where she's going to find I need to
find the name. I've got it in the emails, but
I'll find it and come back to it. We had
a very generous career company that we approached with the
story and shared with them you know what had happened.

(06:12):
Because they're quite big things, they're huge and they're actually
quite here because I've got a big battery in them, yea.
And it was got it got to Steve, and Steve's
had it for the majority of the years, so fantastic.
We didn't quite get it by Christmas, but that's okay.
It was a busy time and we had disordered and
you know, you can imagine. But the point is is

(06:32):
that it's been it's been absolutely outstanding for him. And
I've just got it from the Boris that producer, REENUS Logistics,
it was the company, So thank you very much to them,
and sorry who was the names Boris, Eric Pilling and
Suckmanda Singh who organized that for us, So big thank

(06:56):
you to those guys. Absolutely fantastic. And so anyway, today
I got on the phone with Steve and had a
chat to him about what happen this is in his
life has been like because obviously seem pretty pretty limiting
physically what you can get up to. And anyway, this
is this is what Steve had to say about what
the scooter has meant to him.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh it was. It was quite amazing being heard on
the radio talk about it and someone from the South
Island donating me who mobile scooter. It was something that
was definitely not expect me. Just gives me far more mobility.
I still have astronat texts and stuff where I can't

(07:40):
drive my car, but the shooter still allows me to
get to the malls. I can even drive in the
malls and the scooter if I have a blackout or
something like that. And I couldn't live without it now.
But I'm diabetic and now and i'm you know, I'm

(08:00):
not quite on insulin yet, but there's lots of foods
and stuff that I'm not allowed to eat. So I'd
like to think with all my heart and thank it
so much for it.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's just been absolutely wonderful what she did, and it
absolutely means the world to me for my total stranger,
you know. Yeah, it's just unbelievable. And I'm going to
admity the size of the awkard and someone from christ
comes along with I offer to get a back up
to me and get it charges chut it up here.
And for me, it's just absolutely wonderful for someone that

(08:33):
I don't know, And it's absolutely wonder when you give
when you get older, you know, and just being able
to get around and see your friends, you know, and no, no,
it's absolutely wonderful. Yeah, yeah, abstly life changing. Yes, of
course it's life changing because I don't know, if you
really you know, how much longer I'm going to be

(08:54):
able to do the drive a car because I'm sendy
seven shortly and you just get up the end of
that age and with the Auckland traffic and everything else,
and it's just so dangerous on the road now when
you're older, you know, and it's much easier to jump
on the scooter. I can write that on the foot

(09:14):
path and that's great. Yeah, yeah, it could just thinking
from the bottom of my art and I think she's
more it's more like an angel someone to do that
for me, you know, and especially being on my own
and not having anyone around, you know, apart from seeing

(09:36):
my son down again. Yeah, it's wonderful everyone. I know,
my sons said, you're so like you did to have
someone do that for you, I don't know, and I
totally appreciate it more than the else in the world,
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So that's that's Steve. And you can just hear the
gratitude in his voice, right, yeah, yeah, you can.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
So.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Look, I mean it's wonderful for people to come out
and do this sort of stuff. And again, Katie is
just amazing. We're going to hear from Katie later in
the show. But you know, I wanted to ask you,
you know, a psycho therapist like analysis sort of scenario
going on here? What's actually going on? What happens when
people do these kind of generous things, especially to the

(10:17):
person that's doing it. What what is actually happening? Why
do people do this? Because it doesn't sort of seem
that common, and yet when we do it, it moves
all of us. But what about the person at the
heart of it, who decides to do it? What's going
on there?

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I guess actually I'd just like to say, festival, isn't
it a shame that we think it's unusual?

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:38):
And so I think just to start with that, but
I think, you know, these days, we do have a
culture of buy and sell and value and are focused
around the financial aspect. We also tend to live in
communities where we're distanced from people, right, So I mean,
I think when we live in communities and are connected
to more people, then these acts kind of make more

(10:59):
sense in a way.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
So, you know, if you live in a small.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Town or a village or you know, a rural community,
when you have those genuine person to person connections with people,
then being generous and sharing what you have and lending
a hand and you know, borrowing things and all those
sorts of things that happen are really natural and normal.
Of course, what it highlights for me is that what

(11:23):
we have here Hamish.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
As a community. This is what the Nuttis Club does.
This is a community of people that are connected by
the little box in the corner of their room where
the voices come from, right right, yeah, yeah, So in
their respect, I think the generosity is wonderful. I think
it shouldn't be remarkable, though, but it is. It absolutely is.
And of course it's remarkable because of the size and

(11:46):
the scale and the value of the thing. But actually
what happens in that moment is as a genuine desire
for one human being to help another, and it feels
good to give and it feels good to receive. I
think also, if I remember the call directly, that the
item was from a person who had deceased recently, So
you know again, I think that often when people are

(12:07):
dealing with the deceased, to state. It is about thinking
what would the person want, you know where? And you know,
I've certainly had those experiences with family of kind of thinking, oh.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, you don't want to sell everything. Maybe some
of these things need to go somewhere, somewhere someone will
appreciate them, you know, and and carry on in the
spirit of the person. So I think it is remarkable
and I wish it wasn't quite so when when we
give things, because a lot of people do it, they
may do it like voluntaringly a time in the community.
You know, you sort of think, well, you don't get paid, right,

(12:40):
But then when we say money isn't everything, what is
the other thing? Then that's happening when people volunteer, when
they you know, maybe put some put some food in
the in the community. You know, you know food food
areas that you still see at the supermarkets. Well, I've
got them around where I live. You know, we have
that they literally call community food hubs. You know, people
donate this and the other. What what's happening to the

(13:02):
person when they give that? Well, I mean we technically
we talk about altruism, and altruism that tendency to want
to be generous in a way that doesn't make sense
from the point of view of evolutional biology or survival
of the species, but it makes complete sense from the
point of view of having thriving communities because we're a

(13:22):
herd animal, so fundamentally it feels good to give and
support other people because actually when everybody does it, the
whole community works better. And that's that sense of it
being better for all of us. Selfishness, of course being
the opposite, right, And you know, we tend to have
this swing in us, I think, all of us between

(13:43):
selfishness and altruism, and culturally, I think we've seen a
swing away from altruism and generosity to selfishness because our
communities and connections have gotten smaller. So I think anything
that we can do to build community then also builds
that generosity. And of course giving feels great, and it's
okay that it does, and it should because that's what

(14:05):
makes it happen. Well. Earlier today chatted with that stranger.
Her name is Katie and she's located in christ Church.
She is in so many ways and every day kei
we and yet her generosity and in particular this single
action is extraordinary. It may not surprise you to learn

(14:29):
that this isn't the first time she's done something like this,
and I doubt it will be the last.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
When I finish with my phones and I upgrade, I
give people a chance to have like a decent phone
so they can they don't have to go and buy
a new one. Like I've only had my phones for
two years, and I give them And I do that
with tablets, And yeah, I think it's just when you
grow up and you're born into a family like that

(14:56):
where we used to give stuff away. We've used to
charge people, you know for it. It's like my car.
I've got three cars, but I'm actually going to give
one to my nephew's first car. So I get things
and I give people a chance to, like if people
can't afford one of the very expensive phones because of

(15:16):
my job, I need the expensive phone. So yeah, I
gave a friend on my last flip phone. And yeah,
it's just what I do. I Yeah, I just give
things away. My partner moans at me, but it's just
my nature. I just pfood to give moyer. So I've
got my focus outside of my Ford focus, I'm actually
going to gift it to my nephew next year, oh

(15:40):
this year, actually this year, so he gets a reasonably
decent car to drive around him. It's a fifth car.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Casey, why be so generous?

Speaker 8 (15:49):
I don't know, It's just me.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
It's just the way I was brought out. Yeah, I
just have this really friendly kind nature. And most people
that know me know probably they know they can get
away with them. Yeah, they know I'm going to give
it to them eventually. But yeah, it's like when I buy,
Like I just bought a new kindle, So I'm going
to give my kindle to somebody and load all the
books on it so they can read it, you know.

(16:13):
And yeah, there's I don't know why, It's just me.
This is my nature. This is the way I was
brought up. And when Stephen passed away, we actually got
so much stuff. We've actually got stuff to give away
there's anybody in christ Church. We've got a fridge, freezer,
we've got a washing machine it's sending about a four
kg one, and we've got his bath seat, and we've

(16:34):
got a walker which he has got a little basket
on it, which I think I told you about, and
it's got a little seat on it as well. Yeah,
but with anybody in christ Church that's interested or yeah,
and that stuff, it's all sitting in the garage.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So just talk us through. Why did you reach out
that night when you heard Steve talking on the radio
when you heard him here on another's club.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Oh yeah, when I heard it on the on the
radio that night, I was like, my god, we've got
a scooter here, and yeah, it'd be perfect for him.
Bo it wasn't in the best condition.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
But yeah it was.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
It's good enough to get around and yeah, I just
hope that it lasts a long time. And yeah, it
helps them a lot.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
How does it make you feel when you, Katie, give
these things away?

Speaker 7 (17:25):
When I see how happy they are, it makes me happy.
It's that, yeah, they get to have something if they
can't afford something really expensive, then when I give it
to them, yeah, it's yeah, it's just a feeling of yeah,
they're so happy and it gets me happy and just yeah,
it's like a satisfying feeling and you know you can
give something away and they're going to enjoy it. Yeah.

(17:49):
Just instead of throwing stuff away and just taking it
to the selvos, I'd rather give it to someone so
they can use.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
It you talked about this is how you were brought up.
Is this something your family did a lot when you
were a kid.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
Yeah, we just used to just give people stuff. And
I've told my family that I gave the scooter to
a guy in Auckland and they were so happy. They said, oh,
that's a really good thing to do. And yeah, we
were all quite happy with me giving it to Steve.
So that was really good. And I'm sure Stephen would

(18:24):
have done the same thing.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I guess it's hard talking about it because he hasn't
been very long, but yeah, he would have been fine
for me giving it away.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now there is this coincidence that your brother who's now passed,
was called Stephen and you've ended up giving this mobility
scooter to another Stephen.

Speaker 9 (18:43):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Yeah, it was quite weird that part. Yeah, No, it's good.
I'm really glad he's enjoying it, and yeah, it's helping him.
It makes me happy because I've been wanting to know
since Christmas if he got it, and I was really
worried he wasn't going to get it. But yeah, when
I heard it got it, I was like, we're kind
of relief. I was like Oh, I thank god he's
got it. Yeah, that was a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Why would you encourage to be generous in their own life.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
I just think that if you can't afford certain things,
and you know, and I look on Facebook and neighborly
and if I see something that somebody wants, then yeah,
I just tell them that I've got it, and yeah,
you're welcome to have it. I just think a lot
more people should do that. And yeah, just look around

(19:31):
and see if anybody needs anything. Just maybe donate stuff
that like the bath seat and the walker I've got.
I was going to donate to the restaurants to see
if they need it done. And yeah, I just think
a lot more people should do that. And yeah, just
look around to different places and see if they require
other stuff instead of and so yeah, because you can't

(19:53):
You don't get much for a lot of stuff these days,
So for me, it's just easier to donate it and
give it to someone.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, Katie, thank you so much for what you did.
You are a very special person with a huge heart.
Think you We've arranged a small gift that we're going
to send your way, so we'll get that down to you.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Oh no, thank you. I'm glad it's gone to him,
and I'm glad he's getting a lot of use out
of it. You really don't have to get me anything,
but thank you. I'd appreciate that there's anything soon to
be lovely, anything with chocolate.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Or cheese we can do that.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Isn't that wonderful? Isn't that wonderful to hear the generosity
but also just the genuine desire to help other people
who need help.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, well that's Katie, I think, to a teen, and
what an incredible character. And like I said, you know
she has quite literally changed Steve's life for the better
she has, And isn't it just show you that what
the actions of one person can do. You know, what
you can do life changing? So look, tonight we actually
want to talk about this because it is about how

(21:03):
generosity can impact our mental health and what the generosity
that we do for others can impact on us. And
so I'd like to know if you have ever had
that experience, perhaps you've been the recipient of some generosity
from somebody, or perhaps you've been able to be in
a position where you've been able to give some generosity.

(21:24):
I'd love to know what happened. What's the story? How
did that affect you? We're back soon here tonight on
The Nutters Club.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
This is the Nutters Club thanks to New Zealand Air
on news Dogs.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
That'd be Hey, welcome back to the show. Just a
little update. I have actually just heard from Katie. Yes, yeah,
so Katie has texted and she just said, hey, look,
thanks very much for playing that from Steve. It's border
to tears and she was just so happy knowing that
it's helping Steve again. So nice. I think it's different
when the story all gets laid out there. Oh yeah,

(21:59):
when you hear it all together.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
So no, just absolutely stoked that we could do that. Okay,
your calls have come in, so we're going to come
to you straight away. Just to mo I've got text
message here that just says it's a genuine love and
a caring heart. Every person has it and you don't
expect nothing inturn in return. The reward is making some
person happy and giving them a sense of joy, but

(22:24):
only some people will show it in their actions. And
that's from Shane of Machueka. Nice. So you know the
idea is right. You know, when you give, you give uncontented, unconditionally,
with no expectation of a return, yell, reward or adulation
or anything like that. You're actually just it's the act
of giving that is the point. Rob texted in to

(22:44):
say that generous caller lifted my mental health. As these
days all we seem to face is take, take and
more take, from government rates, to taxes, to cost of living.
What a refreshing attitude that maybe more of us should
consider as we can't take it with us.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, it's a good point, bang on account.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, look, if nothing more, if sharing this story with
from what Katie's done, makes a few more people out
there think about what they can do, then that just
it's the gift that keeps on giving. Then it's the
ripples in the pond. Absolutely, let's go to the lines. Brenda,
good evening to you.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Yes, and I'd like to tell you a little bit
about my story. I had very bad, came down very
bad schizophrenia and I was ill for twenty or fifteen years,
and I was I could work during that time, of course,
because I was had to have treatment. And so when

(23:47):
when I I managed to turn my life around, when
I when I was able to, I thought what can
I do to help me and others? And I thought, well,
I'll get the job in a nup shop. But I
didn't realize a huge impact it would have on my
life when I signed up for it. I found it

(24:10):
very difficult initially the work because I hadn't worked for
fifteen years, over fifteen years, and I found it quite
hard getting back into work, you know. But after a while,
I my fitness threw. Then I went was going to
the pool as well, you know, doing ecerobics, and I

(24:33):
got my fitness back and I was a great asset.
I found I was a great asset.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
You know.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
I had a big car. They didn't have a truck,
so I would help taking taking access goods to another
other shops and that to be recycled second handing clothing
net couldn't be sold, but could be washed and recycled
and that goes to charity as well.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
And well that's that's wonderful, Brenda, And and also too,
like I mean, the fact that you had your own
your own health challenges there as well. But you know,
I can sort of see that whether the value would
come from especially when you're all of a sudden, you know,
you go from sort of being a bit on the
outer and then there you are, Brenda is actually helping

(25:25):
out a heat. Well done you, thank you, and you're
still still with the shop now, Yes, I am in.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
One of the ladies at the op shop. She gave
me a plant for Christmas and it says love, be
proud of the roup you do, the person you are in,
the difference that you make. Wow. And I thought that
says it all, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, well, you should be immensely proud, Brenda. Yes, sorry,
I said you should be immensely proud of yourself because
you know that's a it's a massive effort that you've
put in, and you know you don't you don't get
given plarks like that just for turning up and doing
the bare minimum.

Speaker 10 (26:14):
No, No, I do, I do. I do my fir
share of the work and I sorroly enjoy it and
I love giving two people. That's my things.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, well done, well done? Okay, Well I hope that
that sort of an inspiration for people to, you know,
go and give a bit of volunteer time and there
in their community as well. So yeah, you know, thanks
what you do for others as well, Brenda, Because you
know op shops. Op shops are brilliant. Actually, I'll tell
you what I love most in an op shop. I
like going and looking at the old box.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, you get some real great ones in the op shops.
In fact, actually in my neck in the woods, we've
got an embarrassment of riches. Not only do we have
like the hospice op shop, we've also got an independently
owned op shop. And it's amazing because we've taken some
of the kids old stuff there as they've sort of
grown out. And the lady who runs and says, oh, no,

(27:11):
I know, just the little guy who love this. He
comes into my store every week.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
So they play it.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
They play a special part in our community, don't they
very definitely wonderful. Brenda.

Speaker 10 (27:23):
Thanks great to think that, fast Bridge.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I think, yeah, wonderful, Brenda. Thank you so much for
calling tonight and sharing that with us. That's wonderful.

Speaker 10 (27:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Go well, all right, I got another text message here
just says in the Hawk's Bay, we have a wonderful
Facebook page called you Made My Day, which is a
site where things are given away, no questions asked or given.
It just says it gives me a lovely feeling to
pass on things which are wanted and needed by someone else. Nice.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
And there are those community things that pop up because actually,
one of the things we're talking about in the break
is that there's so much quiet giving that happens. You know,
we've been able to have the privilege of throwing a
spotlight on a beautiful example of a heartfelt text message
in a moment to a massive.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Radio audience here and out there at all. Yeah, but
you know, actually this does happen all the time in communities.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I mean, you know, I'm involved in a local school here,
and I know for a fact that there are people
who and I don't know who they are, and I
don't want to know who they are, but I know
for a fact that there are a number of people
who paid two school fees just because they know that
there are people who can't afford to pay school fee.
And you know, there are quiet uniform stashes and swaps
that happen at a lot of schools around the country

(28:44):
because uniforms are really expensive and it's really hard to ask.
And you and when we were talking about it, you said,
it's about dignity, and I thought, that's that's the thing.
A lot of giving needs to be quiet but craky.
When we can throw our spotlight on it, we should.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I reckon, we should do a whole show on dignity
one night.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yeah why not.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well we'll put that one to the producer Boris, Well,
we'll do a dignity show and I'll tell you why,
Because I think it's really important that when we deal
with people, regardless of if we agree with them or
not being able, to just make sure that people can
retain their dignity. It's very important, and it's central to
our mental health.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
It is, and while we're here, I mean, I think
that's the thing. And I think hopefully people out there
who are listening and like the sound of how all
the sounds and are thinking to themselves maybe there's some
ways I can be generous. It's one of the things
to be a little bit thoughtful and careful about. But
the thing to actually look at is what are the
communities I'm already involved in?

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
What the schools, the sports clubs.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
They're bound to have a rugby boot collection at your
rugby club. They're bound to have a quiet school uniform
stash that one of the admin person just quietly manages
for people. You know, once you start to look, you'll
find these things.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Let's go straight to the lines, Kirsty, good evening to you.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Oh good evening, how are you doing. It's just so
lovely to hear this show how positive.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh thank you. You know, I think it's I'll say
it's down to our wonderful audience.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
It's I know, there's some fantastic people out there, and
I love hearing you talk about too. Because one of
the things that I've got a a few years ago now,
probably four or five years ago, a friend of mine
and myself started up a back to school forward page
on Facebook because we saw personally myself and also my

(30:24):
friend from when she was younger. You know a lot
of times if kids are given secondhand uniform and turned
up to school and what parents can afford, and they
feel a bit you know, oh, you know, this is
the old and scruffy kind of thing. And we basically
it was a matchmaking service for sponsors to people who
need it, and it was specifically done with an anonymous
post function, so people did not need to say who

(30:48):
they were or it was all done and well, some
people did it publicly, but Most of the time it
was anonymous, and I'd be approached by people saying, hey,
can I help out. And I think in that first
year it was three thousand dollars worth of uniform people
matched up, uniform stationery. It was just out of this world.
It blew away, totally blew up, and it ended up
on the Breakfast Show on TV. From that about at

(31:10):
least four or five other pages and other areas in
the country were established, and it's just fantastic to see.
Just recently, we didn't have a lot of need this year,
but recently we saw a young a grandmother who inherited
some children, just unfortunately sadly through to like a drugishoe,
I think, and the child wanted to go to a

(31:30):
certain school high school, and he didn't think he could go.
They didn't think he could go because of the cost
and the uniform. And it was actually through her sister
that it was contacted and a sponsor just straight up
came and said I can help. We were going to
be able to fund some of it, but not a lot.
And the message I got from her was when they
went into the shop because they knew that they could

(31:51):
buy brand new, she said the smile on his face
when he realized he could go to school because he
didn't think he was going to be able to go
because of the uniform. And she said it was just
she said, I cried. So it's just that kind of thing.
And my husband would always say to me because I
was brought up in a family with very little. My
father was a Methodist minister, and my whole life it

(32:14):
was just that generosity in the family. And so that's
how I was brought up. And it's second nature that
my husband will say to me when we've got lots
of clothes or something, Oh, why don't you sell them?
Why would I sell them when they've been provided to me?
You know, people give me stuff, so why should I
not necessarily the same stuff? But why when I get
helped by other people, should I not help people myself?

(32:37):
And I think it's that pay it forward, like that
ethos that you know, it's just I think it's becoming
greater and greater now and people are realizing, you know,
if I've been blessed, why not bless others? And it's
just I think it's second nature to a lot of people.
But sometimes people don't just stop and think how can

(32:58):
I help someone? And I think it's really really important
and it does come back. I mean, I have a
young daughter who she's a pair athlete and only fourteen.
But of course, you know, being on limited income, I
have to go out there and ask businesses say can
you help her? You know, she's gone a national champ
she's going to Australia. So you ask people for sponsorship

(33:20):
like businesses and that, and for ten people might say no.
One person will say yes, but just this way. So
I had one wonderful man who said, well, how did
I pay for the airfares for that event? Because I
had a lovely table of the exact budget, so I
was pretty organized. And that was to go from christ
Church to Auckland, so that was all sorted. So we

(33:40):
had the airfairs sorted, but I didn't have their combination
sort it. And all I could think of, because she's
gone up with her coach, all I could think off
was all this cost is not going to look good
because it's Auckland and I don't know, you know, it
wasn't in central It was like North Auckland, I think
of with Auckland and out of the blue from our
Facebook page because I was just asking where is the

(34:01):
best places to look for this particular area, because we
don't want to be too far away. And a lady
just straight up says, hey, her and a coach can
come and stay with me. We are three k's away
from the venue. We'll pick them up from the airport,
we'll look after them, we'll take them to them from
I thought, wow, you know, that's just something I didn't
ask for. I was just asking for recommendations of Hey,

(34:24):
what part excuse the ignorance of the South Islander here,
what part of Auckland is the best place to go
that's close to Henderson? Because I put it in Henderson
and there was just not a hell of a lost
coming up. And I don't know when this comes up
and you think, oh, you have to go to Google Maps.
It's a head of a job. And then this person
just offered their kindness and their generosity, and I look
at it and think I can't sit there and stress

(34:46):
about the money and worrying about how this is going
to happen when you know that there are generous people
out there who will provide and you know, and she's
heading over to Australia in April and you know, we
fortunately got sponsorship from a New Zealand for the airpas.
But I can't stress about that because you just know
that everything will work out, especially if you know. I've

(35:11):
seen so much generosity in my life that why not
pay it forward? And I think it's so important when
people have the means like your friends Katie, that you
just talk about it. That's the year and I love
listening to it. That whole ethos what she was saying.
If I've got why not help? And I think, yes,

(35:33):
there are a lot of people out that don't have
that mentality and that want to sell stuff or do
this or do that off and get the money for it.
Why not kind of thing? And I just I know
it's awful, but I just love telling my husband no stuff,
that I'm not getting any money for us when I
can give it way. You know, He's got a totally
different mentality to me, and that's fine. But I just

(35:54):
love seeing on this back to score pay it Forward
page over. I think it's probably been going about five
or six years now, and to see the joy in
the parents and the children's responses. Knowing that I had
one first year, I think I had it running one guy,
he's a business owner. He contacted me and he said, look,
I'd like to sponsor someone. So we found this family

(36:15):
who had two boys going to a high school. And
I'm not joking. He said what do they need? And
I said, wow, this is the minimum, this is what
they really know? What do they need? And then he
turned around when he'd already done this in voice for
something some ridiculous figure like six hundred dollars worth of
uniform and he just straight up says, they're boys, they'll
need more undies and more socks. And I thought, you know,

(36:36):
how kind of someone to actually think about things like that.
And I think it's fabulous that you know, you're recognizing
the positives. You know, there's just too many stories that
are negative around nowadays and to get beautiful, positive stories
like that. And I just love how people don't have
to feel intimidated. Their dignity is protected. You know, you

(36:57):
don't have to feel bad about the fact that hey, somebody.
I often someone will say to me, oh, you know,
would you like this or can I help you with this?
And they almost say it hesitantly because they worry about
how you'll feel. Yeah, I think it's important that people know.
Please don't hesitate just because you're worried that someone may
feel bad about like you may feel guilty for asking

(37:19):
or for receiving. They won't. They will be eternally grateful.
Some will express that, others won't. It will be a
lot quieter. But just know in the background that your
active generosity, your kindness is going to mean the world
to somebody like this kid that's just got uniform.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
And think about this though, you know, Kirsty, is that
for all of the people that you've helped connect, Right,
And this is the thing, Right, when people can see
the pathway clearly on how they specifically me can help
another specific person, When they can see that pathway, they're
going to be so much more inclined to want to help,
right because otherwise, you know, if you just to chuck

(37:57):
it at a charf or something, you can't hope for
the best. But when you can see the clear pathway
that you're helping another person, no one in that equation.
Kyle is going to go to bed that night feeling
like that had a day and the next day is
going to feel even better again.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I had to put a dollar value on that very much,
so so I would. I would say that you're doing
a wonderful thing. Thank you so much for sharing that
with us. Keep up the great work. Here's one I've
just said. This is hot off the press. This just
came in here because we were just talking about Katie.
I don't want to leave it till later in the show.
It just says, Hi, guys, I have the pleasure of
personally knowing Katie and her special four legged friend JD.

(38:37):
That sounds like a dog, doesn't it, I would think, so, yeah, yeah, okay, Yes,
she is an amazing woman and my son was the
recipient of her generosity, being the flip phone. She talked
about that when I spoke to her. She doesn't like praise,
but certainly deserves it, and I'm proud to be her friend.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Sounds like she is an extraordinary person.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
But wow, I'm afraid she's getting some praise tonight.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
She is getting praised tonight. She can't stop us. I mean,
we're up here in Auckland, she's down there in christ
Church right exactly. Let's go back to the lines show.
I've got a heap of text messages here and I
am going to try my best to get to them.
But thank you guys. You know, it's so lovely to
hear from you all tonight and wonderful that you know
the story of you, which is this audience is resonating

(39:23):
so much with you tonight. And I'll tell you why.
It's because you're a great bunch of people. Just just
that simple. This text to just says Katie great. Of
course Katie was the person who don't have the scooter
said good show. Take a certain ve to flea market
to give away, put in bag with sign free, see

(39:45):
trolley's in car park and supermarket and car space. Take
two or three to the reck of the door. See
follen items on floor and supermarket. Some walkers walk past,
I pick it up. I wish more people would buy
one food item a week or two weeks or one
a month. And I do this for any local food bank,
and do it for winter.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
So that's just great suggestions.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yep, just just looking for where you can help. Yeah,
just keep keeping the old blinkers open. You talk me
a little bit about, you know, keeping stuff and selling stuff.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
This one says about twenty five years ago, my husband
and I but the bullet and had a garage sale
mainly stuff our kids. Our four kids had outgrown, totally
out of our comfort zone. Never again it was so
painful asking people for money. Since then we donated or
give it away, including big items like thousand dollars plus

(40:36):
camping gear to a young family. Best feeling ever helping
someone to enjoy something you've had and now they can
to Nice And then this one says Hi Carlin Hamish.
I feel the warmth tonight and the callers. I'd love
to give my time to help older people. Mostly I
really enjoy it. I can't give money, as it's a

(40:56):
struggle financially. I'm humbled recently as a dear neighbor and
friend insisted on paying a medical bill that was quite significant.
It was one of several covered by misd or our
health system. I struggle to accept it from her. I
know she can afford it, but I still didn't feel it,
still didn't feel right. I am learning now how to
receive graciously. She doesn't have children and one to do it.

(41:21):
We must all learn to receive graciously, A new concept
for me. I hope to one day pay it forward.
And it's regards from Chris Nice. I get that too.
How sometimes it can just feel a little bit, you know,
like why me, you know, like's it can be quite
overwhelming when people are so so generous. Yeah, it can be,

(41:41):
and it can be hard to receive actually, And I mean,
if anyone's had that experience, I'd love to hear from them,
give us a call tonight, because I think that it
is that thing too where you know, we talked about dignity,
but sometimes it can be embarrassment. Sometimes it can just
be Actually it makes us feel a lot. Yeah, it
can be uncomfortable. You know, you might not want to
burst into tears when someone gives you something which, believe

(42:02):
it or not, is a perfectly reasonable response.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
This is the Nutters Club thanks to New Zealand on
air on newstalks.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
'b Okay welcome back to the show, a couple of
quick text messages. This one says, for the last fifty years,
my family and I have spent most of our free
time doing voluntary work at our own expense. The thing
that thrills me at seeing people telling me that I'm
an angel or center, etc. And seeing the difference that
my small action has made in their lives. Signed ann

(42:36):
Yeah it feels good. Well, if it feels good, and
you're not hurting anybody, and to be fair, you're not.
You're helping them. Yeah, go and do it. This is
from Charlene and Mawai Kato, and Charlene says, I buy
secondhand and rugby boots every year and donate them to
kids in Tokarah and I donate clothes, shoes and toys
to women's refuge as well as blankets for people in need,

(42:59):
especially during winter. I love doing this and I've been
doing it for at least five years. I'm a single,
older lady on a medical benefit and I still managed
to find a way to help others. And this one here, this,
I just love this. It just says without the help
of my neighbor, I would be unable to stay in
my own home. I have a walking disability and she

(43:20):
takes my bins out weekly, a small but necessary help.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That's a really nice thing to do. And it like
you again, we're not. I mean the show tonight started
off with a really big active generosity. Sure, that's a
very achievable thing, very easy to do to maintain as
part of your weekly routine, but means a huge I
can stay in my home, that's huge.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I don't think we kind of realize. You know, sometimes
you can. You can get caught up into thinking that
no one cares and the world is a harsh and
cruel and unforgiving place, and to be honest, it is
at times. However, it's when you have someone who just
without asking for anything in return, helps take your bins out,
which means that you can keep on being able to stay.
Like you said in your own home. Wow, that's huge. Yeah, okay,

(44:09):
let's go back to the lines. Diane, good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
Oh, good morning. I'd just like to say I was
in with a new linen just last week, and I'm
on a motor scooter as well, and nearly eighty four,
and didn't have much groceries. But there was a young
chap in front of me, and he took the bread

(44:34):
and milk and put some pieces out of my basket
and put it on the counter for me, and I
thanked him very much, and then he turned around, and
I was hoping he'd move on so I wouldn't hit
it run into him, and he shaid, no, I'm not
going until I pay for your groceries. And I nearly
died in shock because I've never had that happen before,

(44:57):
and it was embarrassing really, and he was only a
young fact with a beautiful smile. And I hope I
see him again, thank him properly because it was lovely
of him. And he had his own groceries as well.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
So it was such a thrill, isn't it wonderful?

Speaker 8 (45:20):
Oh? It gave me a shock. And I just said
to my daughter if I go down there, I don't
know what I'll say if I'll see him again.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Wow, I mean, there's a couple of words that come
to mind. Thank you, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (45:37):
And heaps of times he turned around and said, oh,
you can pay it next, pay it on to somebody else,
so that which I will do when I can. But
I hope the gentleman and the motor scooter has fun
like I have mine because I can't drive having a stroke,

(46:01):
So anyway I get in and out as through my
my mobility scooter. If he's around where I'll have a
race one day, Well there we go.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
We can have another's club mobility derby. That sounds fantastic,
couldn't we yep yep? And you know we we we'll
get some flames on the side of your mobility scooter.

Speaker 8 (46:21):
Though, well it's got quite a few stickers on it
at the moment, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Well so so to most if one cars as well.
So you know you've you've got You've got all sorts
of things in common with the top, the top, each line.
It's not that much difference, really, is it.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Well, the best sticker at scott is Porsche on the front.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I love it, hey, because one thing that Steve was
telling me Diane when he got the mobility scooter, he said,
it took a little bit of getting used to because
they're just sort of a bit different to drive. Was
that your experience as well?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
No, not really.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
I was a bit happy of it going over over
the foot. It's a race between where I live and
getting to Linn. More. There's a lot of potholes and
you've got to be very careful. I've been stuck in
them a few times, but you have to be very
careful with them. So I would be lost to that

(47:20):
mind o.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Well, I mean I'm glad to hear that you know
you're you've got under control, but also too, just what
a lovely story about.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
So lovely?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, that we've got great people in our communities, we
really do they walk among us.

Speaker 8 (47:38):
Well, he walked among me that boy. It was lovely.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh nice one, Diane. That is a lovely story. So
and if that if anyone is listening, perhaps he's listening
right now. But you know, I think that's just wonderful.
And like I said, you know, just saying thank you,
I mean, that's that's all you can do.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
Really, it made me cry. It just is outside. For
five minutes, we were reckoned. I got such I couldn't
think it was an Actually I was dreaming, So I've
got eventually. Okay, Well, thank you, good.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Night, Diane. Thanks for the call, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
Okay, bye bye.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Just going back to your point, Kyle at the start
of the show, you said, you know, Diane, you know,
there's Diane saying, you know, she thought she was dreaming,
and we're sort of saying it is a bit sort
of sad that people get so blown away by the
fact that people can be so kind. But I'm hearing
a lot of kindness tonight. And actually maybe it's not
quite as uncommon as we thought.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
No, I think it's quiet because I think it's not
just Also we talked about in the first are about
the dignity and how to respect people's dignity when giving.
But I think a lot of times actually the peoples
giving want it to be quiet, not because they have
any reason to be embarrassed. But I mean, you know,

(48:57):
we talked already have me about how Katie doesn't want
the adulation, she doesn't want the rewards. I mean in
the call you could hear that you sort of struggled
a bit to get her to agree to a receiving
we thank you gift. And I think, well that's the thing,
isn't it. People just actually get that the giving is
the thing.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Well, she's given me some direction on it.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
So cheese perfect, yep, No, that was useful.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
So it'll be it'll be some Whittakers. It'll be some
Whittakers and some white Stone perfect, some white Stone cheese.
Yeah again, great, great cheese from a Tigo. The Whittakers
is company? Is that copedy case? So it's north of Wellington?
I think it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's right.
They can have the chocolate. We used to have a
chocolate factory in Dunedin.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
I think it's being turned into a hospital as we speak.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Is he what does that tell you anyway. I've got
another text message here. It says I have cp D
and if you don't know what that is, that I
had looked it up as an obstructive pulmonary does it?
Oh jeez, you know everything, don't you. So I have
coeop D and I get very depressed with it. It
makes me cry and I feel like I don't want

(50:01):
to live anymore. But I'm seeing a counselor about it tomorrow.
I'm sixty six. Love your program.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I'm really pleased that you are seeing accountslor because it
is something that you absolutely can live with. It just
requires some adjustment and change, which is hard.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
So all the best for that. I hope the counseling
session goes well. This one says, as a child, I
can always remember our parents paying the tolls for the
car behind us as we went through the toll gate
on the Awkorn Harbor Broach.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
You chuck the change into the scoop that rattled and
the money went down.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Like did people ever like do it like really fancy
like flip it in or anything.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I'm sure they did, But you need to run the
resk of the money going everywhere.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
It's probably not so good this one says, Hi, guys,
today we walked past a lady living rough in our
local park. We brought her a pie and a hot
chocolate and we charged her phone and Vape brought us
some clothes from an up shop and took them back.
The weather is so bad tonight I couldn't leave her there,
so I took her to a camp and I've paid
for three nights in a cabin. She's just down on

(50:58):
her luck and she needs some help. I'm not sure
what to do next, but I'll try to find her
accommodation in the next few days. I got a buzz
by giving someone some dignity and keep her safe and
warm for a while. Cheers Gail. That's lovely, Gail.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
I mean I think in terms of your question of
what to do next, I think, really, I mean, what
you've done is incredible, and what you've done is more
than enough. But what is also true is that there
may be some local services in your area that you
can plug them into, you know, to make an introduction.
I mean, it could be Really it's easy to say, oh,
you should go and get help, but actually being able
to turn up at those places can be really hard.

(51:33):
So maybe Another thing you could do, if you felt
like being generous, would be to go along to the
appointment with them and make an introduction and make sure
they get connected up with the right people.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, it's always good to have someone giving you some
support through that rather than having to carry it all
on your own. Because it sounds like the lady that
Gail helped has already got sounds like she's carrying probably
quite a lot, you know, obviously in the metaphysical way,
but metaphorically speaking, however, that's the thing when you have
someone there just sitting beside you to keep your support,

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that that's giving as well, that's giving of your time
and generosity. Joe, good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Good morning.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
Yeah, I'm a first time caller, but anyway, welcome.

Speaker 9 (52:14):
I just remember as a child getting given, you know,
free clothes, you know, like a bag of clothes would
come to a house and and you know, I still
remember it, and they were, you know, precious to be
really excited. I remember being really excited about getting second

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hand clothes, you know.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
And and.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
I've been through quite.

Speaker 9 (52:41):
A lot in my life and moved a hell of
a lot, lived in a lot of different houses, and
you know, so I've traveled lightly, so I'm not really
a hoarder.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
You couldn't call me that.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
But I.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
Had undiagnosed depression and I ended up coming back to
New Zealand with my two year old daughter.

Speaker 10 (53:05):
And I had nothing, and.

Speaker 9 (53:10):
I had and one of my family friends gave me
a dressing table.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
And this is thirty two years ago.

Speaker 9 (53:18):
I've still got it. I've still got the dressing table.
I'm looking at it right now, and you know, it's
marked and everything. But and like now I've pulled myself
out of depression. I'm you know, on medication, and then
all of a sudden had the anyway, I became a

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registered nurse and now I'm earning really good money. I've
still got this dressing table. I've still you know, I
could buy myself a beautiful, brand new one, and I
think about it all the time. But I've had There's
a lot of little little things like that that have
happened to me all my life. And like, I would
rather give things away than seldom. I can't be bothered

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selling things.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
You know, I've got.

Speaker 9 (54:07):
Yeah, it's really a nice feeling just giving them away.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
And yeah, well and that's that's exactly what we're talking about,
you know, and it is about those those feelings, I mean,
and because when we have those feelings, they if they
are positive, you know, and in this case, for everyone
who's talked to us tonight, it is overwhelmingly positive to
do it, which we sort of are saying, Well, if

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you're thinking about something you can do to improve your
mental health, giving to others, so you know, giving to
another person, it will will most definitely make you feel better.

Speaker 10 (54:43):
Yeah, I've given it.

Speaker 9 (54:44):
Like I remember with my daughter, her grandparents were quite well.
Often they used to buy us well, yeah, that's what
I was going to say. When we moved back to
New Zealand when she was two, we had nothing and
I got given the dressing table and and pieces and
one of my friends because I was born in Wellington
and we moved back to Wellington from being overseas and

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a friend of the families a girl my she gave
me a bag of stuff for my daughter for kindy.
And it's really weird that I still remember it. Like
these gun boats, so like the woman that gave them
to me was embarrassed that, you know.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Thinking that I to her they were worth giving away.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
She didn't need them.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
Anymore. They were old to us. They were a really
really cool pair of little.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
Gumboat daughter, you know, was I don't know, it's really
simple things, but.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
I mean, I think, actually kids close. It's one of
those ones when you said about hand me downs, you know,
I mean, it's it's the generosity is great, and being
able to share is great. But again, it's also one
of those things where it's like, actually, we don't always
need to be buying new stuff, even if you can
afford it it. Actually, I mean, my little ones, gosh,
if they went through a gross but you'd be lucky
you get three or four wears out of something before

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you actually had to hand it on because they grow
out of it.

Speaker 10 (56:06):
And so I ended up having bags and bags and
bags and bags.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
Of clothes for my daughter, and I eventually thought, oh,
there's no use holding on todayse I'll.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Give them away.

Speaker 9 (56:16):
And I remember I did give a few bags away
to somebody that I don't even think really needed them.

Speaker 10 (56:20):
I thought she needed them.

Speaker 9 (56:22):
I went to her place, and it turns out she.

Speaker 10 (56:23):
Had a whole lot of stuff there.

Speaker 9 (56:25):
I thought I left them with her, but thought, damn,
you know, those were levies and all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
But anyway, but yeah, been through all that. I think
the kids have finally stopped growing. So now it's all about,
you know, sort of wanting to get the brands and
all that sort of stuff. So that's where we kind
of say, oh no, no, we'll get the essentials and
you can go and down you do some work, to
say for the brains.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
But now I'm finding I can't Like, I've only got
one child and I've got four grandchildren, and I was
just poor for all my life. But now I'm earning
really good money and I love it and I'm pretty happy,
but I can't stop myself from spending money on the kids,
on my one daughter and my four grandchildren. I just
can't help. When I was a child, no one spent

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money on us.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Well, I think that that's you know, that's your prerogative,
and you are more than entitled and able to do that,
and I hope you have a lot of fun doing it.

Speaker 9 (57:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, okay, go well, Joe, and thank you for calling us.
Don't make it the last time we hear from you.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
Oh cool, thank you?

Speaker 10 (57:33):
Go well.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
On that got another text message here just says I
have a ten year old granddaughter with the biggest heart.
She makes things to give to others to make them happy,
as well as gives her toys and bikes, et cetera
to kids less fortunate than her. She loves helping others.
She bakes and takes it to the elderly as well.

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She's an amazing young girl. That makes her so happy.
What a wonderful spirit. Yeah, yeah, you get the feeling
that that's going to take her a long way. What
a wonderful alatitude she has the life This one says
from Christine says giving is a wonderful thing in those
that give generally don't tell others what they did, So
that's the true gift of giving. Yeah, I mean, I

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get it, and I love it. I just also think
it's a shame that, you know, we increasingly lose sight
of that which we need to be reminded of the most.
So I'm really glad we've been able to throw some
light on it tonight. That's it for this episode of
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